7-13-23 Bill Cunningham Show

According a Stegment Dennison from yesterday, it appears that the Reds games on Friday and Saturday night will be about forty thousand strong. I think SRO is only available. Sunday is about thirty thousand. Other words, once again, the Reds are going to sell out Great American Ballpark, when earlier this year they had the lowest attendance ever. And then we're in a ten game stretch starting tomorrow. Then after that they go to Milwaukee for three, then they get

played the Dodgers and Cubs. So by the first part of August, we're gonna know if this is real or Memorrex coming up later as Sean Miller, coming up later as Hailey McNamara of the National Center for Sexual Exploitation of Children. This is in relationship to the movie Sound of Freedom was number one in the country this summer with Jim Caviezel and the sexual exportation of boys and girls for profit. But until then, Moe Eger, welcome to the Bill Cunningham

Show, and mo when I look ahead, what lies ahead? How excited should we be? I monitor the National broadcast that it appears Elie de la Cruz. According to the National pundits should have been in the All Star Game. Yes, maybe as a starter or at least as home run derby. And at this point, I think the Reds since he came up on June sixth, which is d Day, Della Cruise Day, our twenty three and

eight and that second best record in all of baseball. So looking forward to the second half of the Reds baseball season, what lights up the corners of your mind a lot? I start with the search for starting pitching, because they need better starting pitching in the second half of the season. But I think it's going to be really fun to watch what I think is going to be a two team race. I don't think either the Reds or Brewers can

run away from each other. Obviously, there's a huge series you just mentioned it that starts tomorrow. I think we are really in for a fun, you know whatever. It is ten eleven week dash to the postseason. And I think more than anything though, just watching this team handle the Pennant race,

watching this team handle the national attention they're getting. I got a call today from a guy from Yahoo Sports who's going to be doing a big story on not just the Reds but sports and Cincinnati and the dramatic one eighty we've done here as a city. This is a team. If you watch the All Star Game the other night on a couple of different occasions, unprompted, Joe Davis and John Smoltz talked about the Cincinnati Reds and deservedly so. So

can they live up to the hype? Can they live up to the billing? And can they get the starting pitching help they need? Looking at it from thirty thousand feet FC Cincinnati a couple of three years ago, last place they stunk. Now they're the best team anamalis. So we got Messy. Messi's coming here in about four weeks around August at twenty third or so. I think Messi that'll be bigger than maybe Taylor Swift. I might ask you who's bigger Messi or Taylor Swift. I think globally, I might say Messy.

I think I'd say Messy. I think without question, he's you thought Paley was big in the nineteen seventies. Yeah, just do another love. I think Messi is the sports is all of sports, biggest global star right now, and he's gonna play at TQL. Yeah. It's because again the West tennis Cincinnatis, that possible number one might not be possible to get a ticket. It's not possible. FC was like at the bottom, now at

the top with MESSI. Secondly, the Bengals two or three years ago were a laughing stock, and all of a sudden they're the favorite in some minds to win the Super Bowl and they're exciting. Complaint when I whenever I watched national shows as a stand up of Joe Burrow behind the host saying Joe Burrow is either one, two or three the best quarterback on all the football offensive linemen want to come here the block which never happened before. It didn't happen,

even the Boomer Glory years, it didn't happen. And then the Reds who lost a hundred I said a hundred games. I said a hundred games when last year October of last year was seven eight months ago, they were a hundred games. Now we're talking about the World Series. So no city has done what Cincinnati has done. And on top of it, Taylor Swift, and on top of it the tennis coming, and on top of it the Kroger Classic. Cincinnati is the place to be. Why actually break it

down by team, What the hell happened? And you know you add to it now we have two major conferences in town with the Big Twelve and obviously Sean Miller's basketball program in the Big East. Yeah, we we deserve this. We as fans, we as a city, we deserve this. I'm you know, I don't know if there's any one common denominator other than good players. I mean, that's the Bengals have a bunch of good players. The Reds have a bunch of good players. FC Cincinnati has a bunch of

good players. You know, you start with Joe Burrow. And I don't know that it's that surprising that the Bengals by now are bona fide Super Bowl contenders. I think what is surprising is the fact that in a second and third year they appeared in back to back AFC Championship games and came this close to winning a Super Bowl. I think it's interesting though the Bengals go into this season there's maybe not a super Bowl or bust feel, but I think

there is a sense of Okay, they've come close. It's it's kind of time to go get one, and so how do they handle that. I think that's going to be really interesting. But they are on the shortlist of teams that I think coming into the season you talk about being bona fide championship contenders. FC Cincinnati might be the best team in the league. Last night, in what felt like a rather hum drum sort of slog that they were going to lose, they end up not only surviving and getting a point,

they get three on the road. That is a really good and well coached team and well put together team. And you know, we've seen the US men's national team representation as it relates to FC Cincinnati soccer postseason's kind of random. But they're in the US Open Cup semi finals. They have a chance to get the Supporters Shield, which is what you get for having the most points in the regular season. They're going to be a playoff team with a

chance to win a title. And they played in the league's Cup here in a couple of weeks, and they've got the captain of the MLS All Star Team, which next week is going to play a team from the English Premier League. So a lot of credit to Pat Noonton and Chris Albright for what they've done there. The Reds, Willie and my wildest dreams. I never thought we'd be talking about the Reds being in first place coming out of the All Star Break. I think we all believed they had a chance to be

better than last year, because you couldn't be any worse. And I think we all believed that with the collection of talent that they have been accumulating, that you could start to envision the Reds being pretty good next year and maybe really good in two years. They've got a chance to play in October, which would be one of the most remarkable and I know that the postseason's kind of watered down. It's there's six playoff teams per league. This would be

one of the most remarkable single season turnarounds in baseball history. Maybe not the greatest, but certainly one of them. We've had worse to first teams before. But it's not just that Willie and mid May they were seven or eight games under five hundred, and now it feels like, not only can they

not lose, but different hero emerged is every night. And I think the exciting thing about this is we're talking about the Reds entering an age where they should be relevant and able to compete every single year with these young players, they have and more than anything, the Reds are cool. Like read what people are writing about the Reds around the country and Elie Dela Cruz and the way in which they play and the brand of baseball they play. The Cincinnati

Reds are cool. And then you add to it all the other stuff. It's it's a really fun time. I think it's a really fun time to live in Cincinnati. It's a really fun time to be a Cincinnati sports And the Reds official told me we don't have to make a deal for a starting pitcher. By the way, the Reds have the third worst starting pitcher pitching ERA and all of baseball. They're terrible. They got the Nickolodolo coming in the next two weeks, three weeks, then they got Homer Green is hurt

constantly. I mean they think if Green shows up in pitches and if Nicolodolo show up in pitches, that's the two aspects that we don't have to trade in Canarcion or somebody to get a starting pitching What does most say about that, um, Well, that strikes that strikes me as a strategy of hope. Now, look ideally, yes, Hunter Green comes back and he's terrific. The last six weeks, and yes, Nicolodolo comes back and he's terrific. Now the last six weeks, are you counting on those things? No,

those Neither of those guys have pitched two full seasons. Neither guys pitch in the big league pennant race. Now you would be getting fresh arms. It's worth mentioning neither guy is dealing with an arm issue right now, which I think is important to point out. But you know, I've heard, well, they hope they're back in August? Is that August first? Is that August thirty first? Are they they back pitching? But not necessarily effective yet to me? And by the way, that's that's still a few weeks

away. And so I think a few things have to happen. I think you start with Graham Ashcraft. He's back, he's healthy, and his last two starts he's been really good. That has to continue. That absolutely has to continue. You clearly hope you could add Green and Lodolo to the mix. That's still a lot of youth and it's still a lot of hope. Why not go for it? Why not go get an established arm that you could rely on. I would love justin Verlander I would love Kate Upton bring

her, but the reality is, look, you can't do this. You can't. You can't have spent the last two or three years yelling and screaming that the Reds don't care about winning, and then when they have a legitimate chance to win, it to have to give him a chance to show how much they care about winning and give Nick Crawl an opportunity to not necessarily finish this off, but given Nick Crawl an opportunity to show that he can make a move like this. I think most of the decisions he has made since

he has been in his current role have been really good. He's put together a pretty good club, and I think within the parameters of the direction the Reds chose to go and Nick Crawl did some really good things last year and acquiring young talent now give him a shot to make a decision that balances the

long term with the short term. But you can't complain year after year after year that the Reds don't do what it takes to win and then not want them to do what it takes to win now making twenty extra million dollars every three game weekend sellout, and it's that's that's important, Willie. I talked to Millie. I talked to somebody with the Reds during the last homestand and he said, we're going to have money to play with because what we projected

and what we're getting those are different numbers. And so we're we're going to operate uh in in the black from a from a from a revenue standpoint this year. Well, okay, the Reds have always said we take the money we get and we put it into the ball club. It's Phil cast to Laney off the hook. I think he is off the hook in terms of choosing to take the Reds in the direction that he chose. I wish, and I'm sure he wishes he could go back in time. I wish the

tone too too at times about you very much. So I think I think if you, if you pressed Phil on this and you said, okay, if you could go back and do it all over again, what would you have done instead of being combative and antagonistic and kind of talking down to folks who are critici criticizing the team. I think if you would have a just sort of understood heat's gonna come your way when you trade away good players. B Hey, look, I know you don't like this. I know this

is tough. Trust me, what we've got coming is going to be really good and you're gonna love it, and you know what, bear with us and the short term if you don't, we think you're going to be back, because that's exactly what's happened, instead of where are you gonna go? And just the overall combative tone. I think, in terms of the direction the Reds have chosen to go in sure fills off the hook, mainly because

they haven't deviated from the plan that they set forth a while ago. And my biggest criticism of the Reds for years has been that they never stick to a plan. Phil and Bob and company have stuck to the plan. I think if they just would have said, hey, look, we trust our plan. We want you to trust our plan. If you don't, we get it, hopefully you're back by the time we're good again, because we think we're going to be really good here soon. I think if that was

the case right now, Phil could do a victory lap. I think it's hard for him to kind of do that right now, But in terms of what he chose to do, yeah, I for me at least as of now, he's off the hook. The big name is Michael Lorenzen. He's an All Star from Detroit. He's got a friendly contract of like eight million dollars. Yeah, Reds and have to pay about three of his contract. Tigers want to deal him. They're going nowhere. Lorenzen would love to come

here. He's an outfielder, he's a starter, he's a middle reliever, can be a closer. Wouldn't it say something if they did everything in their power to get Michael Lorenzen back. Yeah, Michael Lorenzen was an All Star this year because the Tigers had to have an all Star. He's not having an All Star caliber year, but he knows how to pitch. He is a versatile. He wouldn't be my first choice. But but I'll say this, Michael Lorenzen is a starting pitcher for a good team. Is probably a

middle of the rotation guy, so as Tyler Malley. Now, unfortunately Tyler Mallley just had Tommy John surgery, so he's not available to the Minnesota Twins. But the Reds traded Tyler Malley this time a year ago. What did they get for him? Three guys? Spencer Steer who could be the Rookie of the Year this year. Pretty good. Christianer Carnassi owns frand so that just goes to show. For a picture the level of Tyler Malley, the

Minnesota Twins had to give up something significant. So for a picture the caliber of Michael Lorenzen. Yeah, you might pick up some money, but you're gonna probably have to give up something significant. And I think you let Nick Crawl do what a a general manager is paid to do, and that's balance long term considerations with short term. You gotta go for it. The National Lyue CENTU will probably not be as bad next year. You don't know year

to year what the health of your team is going to be. Windows close more quickly than I think people realize. So I think you've got to I think you've got to take a stab at it. And baseball's postseason is random enough. Right now, the Atlanta Braves in the National League look unbeatable. But how many times has the best team, the team with the best record in the NL or the AL made the World Series? Not often? Yeah, So I think a long suffering fan base, you gotta go for it.

All right, mo, thank you. We'll see what happens. It all starts tomorrow. Tickets are going to be at a premium. I'm saying the Great American Ballpark now is the place to be. I can't imagine pay Course Stadium, but that's going to be like the preseason game. But Packers is only about a month away. That's unbelievable. Plus we have to talk about Lionel Messi, yes coming here along with Ronaldo. So tomorrow begins a ten game homestand I am going on Saturday. I don't have an extra ticket.

I'm taking my daughter on Sunday, and so I do have an extra ticket if you would, if you would like to join us. I'm thinking about going to the game Monday, and I'm thinking about going Wednesday. Now I'll be out of town the following weekend, so I can't go to the Diamondback Series, but I always make the overture. This is the longest homestand the Reds have this year. We'd love to see at the ballpark. Let me think about it. I can't make a commune me and Crosley on the

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and Rocky. They're very entertaining and don't even shower naked. Eddie and Rocky this afternoon at three on seven hundred WLW, let's continue, and of course we're sponsored by ACR Guneye Concrete. Polls called today under the leadership of Frank as Ibelle and Swim. This year many issues percolating. Number one, we have the arrest and we've scheduled an appearance by the good Sheriff of Amble County with us tomorrow. After the three o'clock news conference, Brian Combs tells me

we may carry it live. This is the murder of Tamaya Barton Pickens, age nine years old, and as many kind of predicted, and I had a birdie whisper in my ear that there was a male family member who had committed some wrongful act against someone who a robbery that one and hired these two individuals to do what they did, believing that the robber was living in that home in Silverton. So one thing leads to another. Guy's name is Quassam

Dixon. I can't imagine being twenty five years old with an extensive previous criminal record. He's a hired hand and a killer who was hired by a robbery victim to shoot up the house to send a message to the robber. And just by terrible circumstances, the male family member decided to spend some time at that home in Silverton where Demaya Barton Pickens, nine years old, was residing

with her grandmother. There were a total of three kids in the house and just unlucky circumstances for her that the family member of Demaya Pickens's, one of the boyfriends, so to speak, was himself a robber who robbed people. And the person that was robbed hired with Sam Dixon, and the getaway driver was Damario Williams, and the killers under a two point five million dollar bond, and the nine year old girl there scheduling a funeral, and this reminds

me of the uncertainty of human life. I had a cop tell me that so far this year, this happens everywhere, but the frequency is generally in the black community. But in Indian Hill there's been about twenty two burglaries so far this year, which are somewhat unexpected. In Indian Hill, almost everyone has, in one sense or another, an alarm system or something in place, and it's done in a way because some of this is happening. The run of the mill. Burglary should go where the money is. That's why

banks are robbed, that's where the money is. Go to Indian Hill, or go to somewhere like Villa Hills, go to rich sections of Warren County, and that's why it happens. And what's feeling a lot of this extra crime are illegal gangs who have come across the Southern border and they're hired out and paid to do certain things. Much like the industrial strength shoplifting happening. It isn't simply individuals who put a bottle of head and shoulders in their purse

and out they go. These gangs are hired to loot, to rob, to steal, commit burglaries as a consequence of them owing the drug cartels serious money for getting them over the southern border. And so when Indian Hill as numerous dozens of car break ins and burglaries, something more is at stake than the run of the mill stuff. It's because the gangs have chillions, or

they have Ecuadorans or others. They came across the southern border and to pay off their debt they have to work for these gangs for one or two or three years. That's why there's industrial strength shoplifting happening in the tri State, in which shopping carts are filled up and out you go, and no one stops anyone from anymore anyway from occurring, and a curse. It appears that if if a Walgreens or CBS discovers that an employee is trying to film or

video or tape someone stealing or stopping someone, the employees in trouble. And so we're living in a time of massive lawlessness that makes absolutely no sense. The idea of a twenty five year old young man firing a couple of three

dozen shots willy nilly. Twenty eight rounds were fired out of an AK forty seven into the home of a family living there when a male member of that family committed a robbery against somebody else that hired Quissan Dixon, who hired than De Mario Williams as the getaway driver to shoot up the house willy nilly, without concern who's inside. Normally, if someone's got an ax to grind against a male member of a family, you look up that member of the family

and deal with it. But not anymore now because of the lack of ethics and values, because of a of a revolving door criminal justice system, individuals go in and come out. In fact, the prosecutor in this case said that uh, that the main the main perpetrator, Dixon is well known, and the prosecutors said that the man, Uh, the man recruited Dixon to go after the relative. So the victim of the robbery recruited Dixon, the shooter, to go after the male member of the family of Demaya in order

to send a message. And prosecutors David Wood, my good friend, is in prosecutor's office. He calls the cases in room at said that Dixon has an atrocious history of picking up new charges while he's out on bond. So Judge Kirk Kissinger it's a pretty damn good judge said. Dixon's bond at two point five million dollars and he appeared in in court on crutches because as part of the getaway there was a crash that took place, causing injuries to him

and injuries to the getaway driver, Demario Williams. And now we have a life taken. It's an awful circumstance. And guess what's likely to get worse, not likely to get better anytime soon. Williams, who was the getaway driver, fled from police and crashed into a convenience store, and the coppers, the homicide detectives Hamlet County Sheriff's Office, deserves quite a bit of credit because within a day or two they focused, they did what they could have

find out the perpetrators. And Williams's lawyer, who who's the so called getaway driver, argued for a low bond, stating that his client's connection to the shooting was based upon rumor and innuendo. Prosecutors said they planned to file additional charges against the getaway driver, including a possible felony charge of fleeing and a looting. So while the investigation continues, the judge set his bond only fifty thousand dollars to look at the pictures of Demaya, the cheerleader on the West

Side Panthers, a youth football cheerleading organization. She was supposed to be on the west side of town because of certain dysfunction in her family. She just happened to be staying for a few days in Silverton, and the city of Silverton, which is a great community, well known to the great American, said that our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of young Demaya Pickens Barton as they grieve and try to make sense of this. We extend

our wholehearted support about this unimaginable difficult time. Silverton is a small, close knit community right on the eve of on the edge of Deer Park in Madeira. In fact, for a long time Silverton has tried to get their kids into either Madeira Public Schools or Deer Park Public Schools because they're right now. They hooked to as CPS, which is a failing school district. And so for that to happen, Number one CPS since I Public School has got agree

to let Silverton go. And secondly, you have to have Madeira or deer Park willing to accept the kids out of Silverton, which I am confident der Park would accept. Madeira is over subscribed, be Madeira is building new buildings for all the kids going to school in Madeira, and der Park under the leadership of J. Phillips is kind of bursting at the seams. Also because

people want to go to a functional community. So if Demaya was residing in Silverton, she would have to go to Cincinnati public schools, which is not a good place to be, which is why I complement Bill Sites and other Republicans in Columbus that are providing voucher systems so good kids can get out of dysfunctional schools wherever they might be with a voucher if the other school will accept

them. So deer Park accepts a few, Dara accepts a few, but they can't have one or two hundred because both school systems will be oversubscribed. Got to build new buildings. But the lawmakers and columbers are doing their damnedest

to try to help kids who find themselves locked in terrible circumstances. And some of these terrible circumstances are in rural areas in Adams and Brown and Highland County also in which the school districts are completely dysfunctional and they're not succeeding whatsoever, and it's a terrible You can't give up on kids. You can't say to Demaya that you're nine years old. I assumes she's in the third or fourth grade, and you're not being educated. You have to stay there, locked

in that environment. And I don't know whether I blame certain members of the Barton family for having a member in the family who's I guess, an armed robber robbing people. But that's a dangerous business to be in because they get somebody killed. It's probably no more than fifteen hundreds or two thousand dollars.

And when I speak to my friends in the criminal defense bar, it is more violent now than it's ever been in the city of Cincinnati, you know, Mark Twain, the wise Mark Twain said, I want to be in Cincinnati when the world ends, because Cincinnati won't find out about it for about

ten years. And Chicago, Austin, Dayton, Saint Louis, Baltimore is there right now, in which there is completely dysfunctional schools, track meets in the hallway, teachers get worn down, school board members don't know what to do. And to an extent, the CPS school board members, the Mike Mourowsky types, etc. Have good feelings in their heart. They want to do their best. But when you have the majority of kids coming out of

dysfunctional environments in which education is not valued, those are lifestyle choices. It's not about racism. It's about lifestyle choices that family members make that put kids

like Demaya in terrible circumstances. And then she's victimized by the behavior of a family member of a relative who robbed some other third person who hired these hired killers to kill or shoot up the home where where the robbers located and Tamaya Denard Demaya of of of Silverton, who should have been on the west side of town spending some time there in Silverton, Demaia Barton pickens, it's just

another victim of urban violence. And these things happen all over the place all the time, whether it's Claremont County with that Dorman character who should be summarily executed for killing those three little boys, or this murderer who's a hired hand for money, sprayed about about three dozen bullets into the home or Demaya just happened to find herself, just happened to be there. So Demaya Pickens is

dead and they're planning a funeral and it's sad. But right now we have a functional police department, we have a functional sheriff's department that can find these individuals quickly. Cincinnati has about a clearance rate of a little over fifty percent of the homicides in the city and about seventy percent of the homicides in the county. The perpetrators are arrested. In many big major cities the numbers twenty

percent or less. And it's going because veteran cops are leaving, and because so many individuals don't want to become cops, it's going to become more and more difficult. But at three o'clock today, Jack Crumley tells me we're going to carry the news conference conducted by our sheriff Charmaine McGuffey about how this thing developed, and if things go well, she'll be with me tomorrow at noon to talk about the investigation in where it is at that point, it's obvious

at this point that Demarrio Williams, the so called getaway driver. They have to prove that he had knowledge of why they went to Silverton. And right now he's under some relatively minor charges. But if he knew that a hit was going to take place, he participated in it. As the driver of the vehicle. He would have had to have slowed down to put that many bullets into that home if he watched it going on, If he knew it was going to take place and he drove away, he's equally culpable with Dixon

and is facing aggravated murder charges. And because we have a functional prosecutor's office, when you murder a child, you can get the death penalty. But I'm confident in twenty five or thirty years, if the judiciary and Hamlety County continues on the same course, about half the judges on the bench have a different attitude about criminal justice than the other half. Likely Williams and Dixon may get out of jail in twenty five or thirty years, But of course the

nine year old girl will not. She's dead, and this will continue on and on for as far as the eye can see, until we separate from American society. The killers and the murderers who perpetrate such harm in our community. It's happening in Claremont County. It's happening in Indian Hill. When you have a couple dozen home break ins and cars are being broken into. It's fueled by gangs and their insatiable desire to get money, and so forewarned is

forearmed. It is sad that Demaia had to face the end of her life. I look at this face and her cheerleader outfit. What an atrocious situation that her life ended because a family member of her female relative had a relationship with him and that he was an armed robber and he committed offenses that resulted in a killer being employed to go shoot up the home that he thought the

robber was living in, and Demaiah was an unfortunate victim. All right, let's continue after one o'clock today, we have Steve Raleigh to talk about what's happening at beginning at four o'clock about his daughter Madison and her death and why it happened. After two o'clock today's an expert on the movie Out with Jim Caviezel about human and sex trafficking and more. Plus later on we have the head basketball coach of your Savior Musketeer Sean Miller. I'm gonna ask him questions

about nil money and how we go from here. And as Moja said, I can't think of a better time athletically and downtown to have events going on of this character. I would note that three hundred thousand attended the concert with Taylor Swift, along with the Reds and along with TQL Peaceful Calm. It's a small number of individuals. Black males are generally responsible for these activities, but black males in general are not responsible. It's the small number that calls

havoc in the black community and elsewhere that must be separated. And it's not just about color. I refer you to the Dorman case in Claremont County and the two dozen burglaries happening in Indian Hill because of the insatiable desire for money and profit by these gangs, and they must be locked up permanently. Twelve fifty five Home of Your Reds teeing it up Tomorrow night all A News Radio seven hundred WW Spencer's Spencer Stare in the Reds walking up over the pod ray

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and Steve Raleigh, welcome again at the Bill Cunningham Show. And let's go back in time just a little bit, because Mattie's House has now become like a symbol of parents and many others who care about the lives of their children when they get off track, But can you talk about the last year or two that you and Julie dealt with Maddie's difficulties and how the house that currently exists may have assisted with that. But go back a year or two

before her death and explain what you were dealing with. Well, quite honestly, it was something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. It went about ten or twelve years of some issues. My daughter, unfortunately had a rather unfortunate incident as a small girl, and she masked that pain with drugs as she got older, and we only found out through counseling that that's what she was doing. And so it took a long time to go through that process.

And once we were able to get her a little bit in the straight and narrow there, we also had to deal with a dual diagnosis which she was also bipolar, so she was dealing with an addiction and a mental illness, and so it was a long, hard road. And I'll tell you that as I stand here now, as I talked about it, I almost well up because it was so tough for Julie and I to deal with.

You know, the interesting thing about Maddie's house bill is the fact that it was my daughter Madison's idea when after about the fourth or fifth rehab, she said, I could teach this stuff. I just need somewhere to go. I need somewhere to hang out. I need people who understand me in the road that I've walked, so that I can get help from other people when I need support who understand me. And so at that point, after unfortunately her being tired of being tired, she took her life. And that was

coming up almost five years ago. It's January seventeenth here, and so at that Julie and I said we've got to do something, and we started Maddie's House, which was in a two thousand square foot storefront here. In the last couple of years, we've had three hundred thousand service hours and ten thousand individuals in and out through a NA and it's a hangout for recovering young adults. So it's not residential. It's worth somewhere to go because here and across

the midweston really virtually across the country, nothing like this exists. Its aftercare, and that's what we've developed in Mattie's House. Wo we're about to move into a giant eight thousand square foot house coming up in about six weeks. Steve Raleigh, when you went through that process, and almost every family is touched by either drug addiction, alcohol addiction, by polar disorder, god knows what else. It's rare to leave it to beaver lifestyle. It's things happen

in life. And you fight in your holler and your scream, and you say, I've had many parents call me over the years and say, my child literally is on the street. She's twenty four years old, she's addicted, and she comes to the house. I let her back in my house. And after a year, after a week or two, things are missing, she sells things. I come home from work and there's strange is living in my own house that my daughter allowed to come into the house. I

call the police. They don't know what to do. And this is a terrible, terrible circumstance that many families deal with. And I don't think anyone is better situated to deal with and Steve Raleigh and Julie Lesa Raleigh, because you two, shall we say, are extremely well connected. You're bright, college degrees, you knew what to do. But there's many families that don't have the connections that you two had. And with those connections and with those

influences, you still couldn't solve the problem because it overwhelmed you. What would you say to a mom or dad listening this afternoon that says, right now, I'm dealing with a similar thing, and I don't know whether to let him or her my child back in my house, not let them in my house, they leave, they destroy things in the house. That's ruined my life. I don't have a life anymore. What advice would you give to

that person, if any Well, I'll tell you this. Each case is individual, of course, but we went through everything you talked about, and it was very difficult for us. We went through all of the stages of trying to keep it hidden. We were embarrassed, we didn't let our friends and family know. And then at some point you just say, well, we've got to deal with this. And then we took the measures that we took that were appropriate for Madison at the time, and we did what we

could. The bottom line to this is, obviously, it's frustrating, it's difficult, it's overwhelming, and frankly, I'll be honest with you, there were times Julie and I were at each other's throat. Unfortunately, during an addiction situation. Often that person tries to side and split the two and we realized at that point the key, at least one of them is is to stay united. Whatever you decide to do, you have to stay united.

And that's the one piece of advice I would say that we learned over time, and this was a time period, as I say, of about ten or twelve years. But that's what's important here is getting the help. And then once they get the help is to have a place like this aftercare of Maddie's house, because there'll be somebody else who's further along in their journey and that young person, that young adult can say, Okay, I remember where you are. Now here's what I did, and this might help you.

And that's why this peer to peer, this community that we're creating, this ability to not just come and have coffee. Yeah you can do that, but maybe you want to come to a meeting and then play ping pong or pool, or you want to take a yoga class, or maybe some life skills because so many times there's you know, you've been in jail because of

these things and you need help with getting a job or anything like. These are the services we're going to provide and it's all free and we're about to open up there, as I say, in about six to eight weeks on two acres on a beautiful bucolic setting with a pond. We just put in a fountain in the back. You can hear it gurgling from the big deck we just put on. And it's all happening right now and to at four o'clock. We need everybody to tune in so we can continue these services.

Was there a sense of guilt? I have a family member dealing with a similar circumstance, and she feels as if my parental skills are not up to the task. She's a devout Roman Catholic that would pray, light candles, go to novena's, say the rosiary. The prayers were not answered. Maybe they were, but she perceives they're not. And now her child has been absent from her house for about three months. Has no idea where that girl is. She's about twenty five, twenty six years old. Could be in

Louisville, could be in California, could be dead. I don't know where she is, and has trouble sleeping at night. When the phone rang, she's hoping it's her daughter calling for help. Did you have a sense that you failed as a father? I think there was a time of that. I think Julie as well. We both thought what did we do wrong here? You know, one of the things I hope to acme was, quite honestly, Bill, is to break some of the stigma down. You know,

Julie and I have been blessed in life. We had four kids, we have a nice life, a couple of good jobs. We've been able to enjoy our family at a level that we thank God that we can. And it can happen to anybody. And that's the thing that you have to remind yourself that it's not just folks who may be at a socioeconomic level that is not up to your part, because we're the prime example of just something happening in the past that ended up building up to a situation now. So

yes, we have felt that before. The one thing we know is as God fearing people, honestly, is this was a plan we don't like. And there's a plan for everybody in life, and Julie's and mine we were

uniquely placed. Julie's a master fundraiser and I say fun fund raiser and She's been marvelous to be able to create opportunities and with my little bit of celebrity because of the good folks at Channel nine and being able to do this telethon tonight at four, well, we're somewhat placed to be able to put Mattie's house in the community. And so now we eat everybody else to support us,

and I hope that happens tonight. All right, it begins at four o'clock on Channel nine, and I think it's great Channel nine's allowing you to do this because if a family's not yet been touched by this, they will be at one point. It's one thing if your son, your daughter develops a lymphoma, develops a brain cancer, you tell people. There's some stigma in some people's minds attached the idea that my son, my daughter has a

mental disorder that has flowed into chemical addiction. It's flowed into maybe marijuana, maybe fentnel, maybe alcohol, whatever it might be, and then the drugs are taken to mass to bipolar and that has a geometric effect on the personality, the fighting, the arguing, the screaming, the the arrest, the fact that the child is under arrest. Do you bail him out, do you not bail him out? Do you want him to stay in jail? Don't want them to stay in jail? And your life is consumed by this.

And I can't imagine the call that you received that Madison had killed herself because she couldn't deal with the pain and that she was going through. She felt trapped, I'm sure, and that was the way out of her anger. But for all of us who have had dealt with family members, I know at one point I had an uncle who was a long View State Mental hospital, and as a boy, I would visit him there and it was

so heart rendering. He got out, got back in, he went in, came out, began drinking, did this, did that, committed crimes, went into the system, came out, and it never ended. And I think to an extent that maybe a person in the throes of what Madison was going through thought she wanted to save you and Julie the pain of dealing with her life, and that's why she ended it. She loved you so

much, she wanted the pain that you had to end. Well. She always told us she loved us. She always also said, you don't understand me, and that's what really tripped things for us to try and get this Maddie's House together and to your point, build these are diseases. These are diseases that people go through, and the kids that we're helping because we're focused on young adults, are the ones that have gone through counseling and rehab and

want to stay helping. They've for whatever reason, had problems that got them there, but now they want to go a good path. And that's what makes this so important. In an addition to that, for everybody else who

may not be touched by this. And I think that's a small percentage from what I know and the stats that I've seen, but if it is true, the reality is is something like Mattie's House and places like what we're trying to accomplish as a template for other communities will help the community in general. We know the epidemic of Fenton al that's going on in Ohio. You know, Ohio has twice the national average, and we have all of these stats

to in Hamilton County and elsewhere around our area in the dry state. So that's why we think this is so important and we're hoping for everybody's support all right beginning at four o'clock. And what is the website for those who want to be involved financially, giving time, whatever. What is the website to whom we can direct the American people. Sure, it's Mhcinc Dot org. So it's mh C I NCY dot org. So you can always give there. And then of course we go four to eight tonight and we've got a

complete show just us from seven thirty to eight o'clock. We got some cool celebrities, we've got some great information, and we've got a firsthand behind the scenes look of the brand new Maddie's House coming up. Steve Rowlie, thank you very much. And your journey and your fight today will be many in the days and weeks and months and years ahead. And good luck to you and Julie. Thank you very much. Thank you Bill, and I just

want to say one sentence. You have been there for us from the beginning, and thank you so much for the support. Steve, Thank you very

much, So let's continue. One thing I did mention is that I've had family members have been in the throes of mental health difficulties, and generally when you have that problem, often it takes in today's life to form of alcoholism or drug abuse or something, and that many can reach out today's we're better off now than we've been in a very very, very long time about more or less accepting the idea that if these people need help immediately, and if

you've not been touched by drug addiction, alcoholism or mental health, you're you're blessed. But go to the website, get involved, and let's help these very special people. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WLW. Now that you've taken on that given to the penalty area, it comes out to Obi WOMANO, who take your son? Obi? WOMANO has done it? Woman? Oh death two to one Cincinnati. Oh about that? Hell? Helloo, Hello, I'm broadcasting. You know I'm saying back to

back. We got Chip hard tomorrow one thirty. Justice Joe Dieters will be here, no smoking state visit from JJ himself as Scott Slippers, some wine. You'll be here. Wow. But my neighbor in Finnytown, now we got I went to the to the public school. He went to the to the Atolic school. He's rich, and we weren't allowed to play with each other. Okay, we shouldn't play with him anyway? What are you talking about? I know, but they we weren't allowed to play with each other

because that's the way it was. No. I called you about a couple of saturdays ago, all my way out to Climes Market to buy some cream horns, and you invited me to your ponderosa in Claremont County. And I said, well, you said your wife, VICKI was like delivering a long horn your baby or something. I said, that sounds painful for the woman to deliver a long horn, Am I right? A wrong? Well, what gave you the idea that they have horns when they're a baby being born?

What? What? What do you? Where did that come? What are you? What are you inez? How the heck would you get that through the love canal? I have no idea. I mean, for crying out, that would be a problem right there. So when did to develop the horns? They start developing about two months after they're born. About that? And she bottle feeds four calves right now? What time she bought she gets nursing at her breast or what is it? No? No, what

gave you that idea? I mean nursing? He has all these ideas that you have no idea about the idea. So she bottle feeds. They get about a half gallon of milk in the morning, special up calf milk. And there's four of them, so they're they're being bottle fed at about six thirty in the morning. They're wine and I mean they're ready. They want to eat. They want to eat. And then during the day that's supplemented with straw and a couple of treats. You can pet them, you can

walk them like a dog. And that's the reason for bottle bottle feeding is to get them accustomed to people. People. And yeah, this began as an advocation. Now it's a business. Is that correct, Yeah, it's a full blown business, Straight Creek Cattle Company. Horn she will be, she will be. You have to have the calves to sell. So she's still building at her and she's become a real badass. I'll tell you what.

You see a woman handling a long horned cow, you know the ways, six hundred pounds and the horns are already two and a half feet. They'll get to five feet on each side, and she's a badass. She wrestled them down. If they get a little I'll tell you what you try and get one in a trailer or one of those shoots that so that you can do a blood sample. It can get a little testy. I can imagine you're like a ripped wheeler in the Rosa yellow Stone that's my favorite.

And you're like Rip Wheeler or John uh, probably closer to John. Yeah, use you're a rip Wheeler. Do you have bet? I like to see best Actually wife, if if rip Wheeler or a woman, that would be my daughter. She has become quite the uh, quite quite the tough kid helping mom raise cattle and seven dogs. No, I fix things, okay, okay, I fixed the fans. I gotta I gotta moved up

the rolls of the handyman. I'm the handyman. Okay, breaks right, I'm any animals do you have Let's see twenty head of cattle, about fifty chickens, uh, six sheep that helped graze down all the weeds and poison ivy and seven dogs. That's almost three or three of the dogs are Great Pyrenees and their their sole purpose is to protect the calves and they do that's that's what they do, and they do. So your house is like I gotta come out a full blown farm, that's what. It's just not a

big one. It is kind of a fort. It's kind of like a compound, SAgs, It's a compound, that's right. I have a thousand foot driveway and I can touch the end of it with them if I need to. Okay, the ground just gives out. You just disappear, that's right. It's become quite a life change, that's and see, that's why I have to come into the city, okay once in a while and be here and hang out here and having an office. So your wife's taken of this more than you thought she ever would. She did, she did.

Uh, it's quite quite amazing. I mean, you got to be committed to do something like that, and it's a long term commitment along with homeschooling the kids, which she's been doing for about five years now, and what they're learning homeschooling with you know, two hours of chores a day, you know, with the animals and all that chickens. I'll tell you what it's. It's something else. They want to get out, They want to get to graduate. They're perfectly happy. They're perfectly happy. Yeah, they just

weren't meant for the routine. They tried school. They tried public school, okay, and it didn't exactly go the way it. Try something different, try something different. And what a time to be homeschooling right now. Fantastic, especially in your ponderosa. That's right, that's right. Say give me some sports and making fast hard is making a state visit. Hold, hold, talk about a job you have that's easy this summer and fun for crying out loud with all the great news, the great sports. I don't have

to think about that for Everybody's the first place I know it's wonderful. Two years ago, everybody, we're talking already a bad place. Will the manager? Will the manager be gone at the at the All Star break or right after the break? Or who's going to get traded in about two or three weeks? And now it's like who are they going to add? And all this stuff. It's unbelievable not to mention. Normally you'd be talking aboungals haven't

even started yet. But normally you you would be talking about what you're gonna be what the teams are gonna be doing next year? Exactly? Yeah, right, we got night. Yeah, that's right here, Milwaukee, you got three Milwaukee four, the Giants, three the Snakes. Then is two Milwaukee to Los Angeles Dodgers the next seventeen days. Uh, I go nine and eight and be very happy with that lineup. I'll tell you what, I'm looking forward to, some good well I want to go. It's gonna

be good stuff. And Bley is like he came here June sixth on D Day. Since then, the Red Legs are twenty three and eight, which is second and all of baseball. Only the Braves have a little bit better record. They're the like, the second best team in baseball. I'm thinking, what and you got Lionel Messi is coming here August to twenty third. Messi is bigger than Taylor Swift? Am I right or wrong? Oh? You're right, you're right. And look at I've never met the cowboy.

I would love to meet the Cowboys sometime. But talk about a guy that's wet and his pants calling games. You can hear it. We got to say at right there, there's one. I mean, I didn't know, I know he wet his pants. That's what it sounds like. He's awfully he's awfully happy and excited. The last few years. In the middle of July, I sold out. My ballpark is sold out this weekend. Yeah, he's got he's got a lilt in his voice. Oh it's good.

And if Bengal is gonna pay the packers in three weeks and then you got FC they're undefeated, untied, unscored on and Messi is coming to sit in a bar and otr. Can you see Lionel Messi with my good friend Ronaldo having a schnops an otr? Would you believe that? Oh? I think I'll take him to the opera. What do you think? I love the opera and Southern too, absolutely love the opera. Well they the Stude Reports a pro service of your local temp star he did to get their conditioning dealers.

Temps are quality you can feel in Cincinnati called Schmid Heating and Cooling five one three five three one sixty nine. Can you name one opera? Just give me one. What Phantom of the Opera? Is that an opera? Good enough? Not bad? You're pretty good. It just popped in my head. It's like everything else. How about swan Lake? Never heard of it? How about the Nutcracker? That's not an opera, that's a play. No, I didn't I that urology exam. I'm not sure what that

is, Bellieve. We also want to thank Ron's Roost Restaurant and bar, the world's greatest fried chicken, Donna the Princess of a Chicken, bringing down our road lunch. Today's the thirty eight fifty three race road on a good old west side at Ron's Roos dot net five one three five seven four Z two two two is the chicken hot line. It's supposed to move to Anderson or have a place in Anderson or on the east side. Is that what it was? Yeah, only a carry out location. And uh Tom Weedman

didn't give enough tax credits? Is that what it was? We're deck kidding. I got a report from John Barrett that called in Nuncracker is an opera? Oh it is okay. You should have known that the Reds twenty twenty four schedule. Willie is already out. The twenty twenty four schedule is out for the Red Legs. What you will give your speech opening day Thursday, March twenty eighth, Great American Ballpark against Saint Louis the Washington Nationals. That's

good. The Cleveland Indians, the avaunted Ohio Cup is back the wait minute, excuse me, scratch that. The Guardians come to town Great American Ballpark two games June eleven and twelve. Also, Otani comes to the Queen City with his Angels May twenty four, twenty five, and twenty six, like the Royal Day weekend trout Otani, if he's not traded in the house, don't you have any current news or sport was going to happen a year from now? Come on, I didn't come down here to listen the road.

The road games include they're gonna play the Yankees over fourth or July weekend all next year. Happy about that. College football Evan Prater out of Wyoming switching positions or quarterback to wide receiver, good corny to coach Scott Sadderfield. Xavier has announced their non conference schedule for twenty three twenty four. Muskies will open the season against Robert Morris November six at the Sintas Center. They'll play news. That's what I'm saying. This is what it is. What have you

been doing all day? Huh? You're not coming back here anymore? The eleven days you're supposed to let him have it? Not men stay at game regular season schedule, eight home contests, Skyline Chilly Crosstown shootout against those Bearcats Center. What the data that Saturday December ninth, Let me get out my calendar on my phone and the Cincinnati Bearcat's reports are they have added the Evansville

Purple Aces to their home non conference schedule Saturday, December thirtieth. Yet wait, congratulations last night to FC Cincinnati winning last night two goals in the waning moments. As you heard at the top of the Stude report that was Tommy

g on ESPN fifteen thirty good. How about some current sports. I need something a lot going on, Reds and Reds and Brewers tomorrow night in the first of three wy at GABP seven hundred w wellw Encore Technologies pushed to the playoff show is live tomorrow from three to six at the Holy Grail, presented by ACR, Gunny Pools and Spas, RNL Carriers and Jake Sweeney, Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge and Ram. What about Messi. Messi's coming to town in August? Can you leave Messi's gonna play soccer at t q L If

you say so, you don't you know who MESSI is. No, I'm afraid I don't about That's okay. How about Christiana Ronaldo? Mike? What about the boppy? I am about a Harry came about Caca? No, I don't know any of them, but that's okay. I think gave your dogs to them. Is that your dog's names? Uh? Caca? No? No, oh, no, MESSI no making a mess with big About a big Harry cow named Johnny? You got a Harry cow named Johnny, big Harry highland named Johnny. Don't I tell a mother, don't deliver Johnny.

He's got some Johnnies home, john That's some Johnny's. So this is a education for your for your boys, Oh yes, yes, for my for my kids. How many eggs you can live alone in that farm? Forever? Water? There? There's yeah, there's their fish whatever you know, chickens playing egg guns, it's right, ducks, you know every all of that kind of stuff. I gotta tell you. We have two of

the two of the females. The heifers are in standing what's called standing heat, okay, And what that means is that while we're standing around most the the other not only are the bulls trying to mount them, but the heifers are trying to mount them as well. Act he got twenty four hours to get for them to get impregnated, so dying thirty. The other night, the Vet comes over. My wife had bought a couple of straws a bull semen and it was frozen, and they bring over the cut They bring over

this container. Okay, and the Vet puts on a glove that goes up above his elbows. He puts it all the way up the canal until to pass the elbow, and then he slips the straw in while stretched out and releases the semen into the into the cat. You know what, that was not a vent. That was Mike Rowe of the Dirty Jobs. That's who that was dirty. The Dirty Job Show came to you. Yeah ninety nine half that half hers a halfer or mayor whatever. It's well to have.

Now we hope she. We hope it takes standing in heat like Sarah atanding and heat. Yes, all right, Chip, thank you for your state visit. Tomorrow one thirty, Justice Joe will be here. Say hello to Joe for me. Well, we don't talk to him anymore. He's above us. Okay, segment give me out of the sec He has to be in the next studio. We can't even be in the bree studio with him. Oh my goodness, Willie, an honor of chip Hart and a cow and heat. We leave you with the immortal words of the student Report.

U NA will be the thirty second free standing have free thirty three thirty two free standing members standing together to defend our people on our territory. That's our leader. Take me to your leader. We're in trouble. I'm embarrassed. Thank you. Give my best to Vicky. I will make a visit this summer and say hello to Johnny will I will wait, I will make a visit. I will. We'll save a straw for you to insert in one of the heifers. Okay, save that kind. I gotta see Continue with

more Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WW Sports fans in Ohio. No, that nothing beats, and it's about the One of the most horrible things happening in the world today is the sexual exploitation of children. May the darkest, deepest recesses of hell be reserved for those in that particular line of work. And I think so much of that is happening now because of cross border crossings of children. Many times the person being exploited must pay with body or

with labor in some sense or another, and it is disgusting. And I had thought that ninety nine point nine nine percent of us understand this, But there's a little bit of a pushback happening about maybe this is not real, maybe it's a conspiracy theory. God knows what. But to Hailey McNamara is the vice president of the National Center Sexual Exploitation. They've been doing this work for about the last sixty years. Hailey McNamara, welcome, I think for

the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Haley. First of all, what impact has this movie head on the awareness of individuals that are being sexually exploited to the tune literally of millions around the world. But has this movie been an impetus or has it always been there? You know, this issue unfortunately has existed probably since the dawn of time. But it definitely is

sparking interest and awareness, which is always a really good thing. And I'm heartened by the number of people who are seeing this movie and then saying they want to learn more and they want to do something about it is the cross border situation, not just in a mirror, but really all over the world, especially in Europe and elsewhere. Is that an impetus for more children being sexually abused because of what's happening on our southern border. Yes, unfortunately.

You know, sex traffickers and abusers of any kind will always target a vulnerable population. And so we see that this happens, you know, internationally at border crossings, but it also happens domestically in America as well, often online grooming of children, and so yeah, so it definitely happens across borders, but it also happens even within our own communities. Sometimes even children that go to school and sleep in their own beds at night and their parents don't realize

that they're still being sexually exploited. It's in the suburbs. Can you explain, First of all, give us a definition of sex traffic, and then I want to talk about in the suburbs. If you're in Austin, Texas, Cincinnati, Ohio, Chicago, it could be happening next door to in your next department, next house. But what is sex trafficking. So, sex trafficking is any kind of commercialized sex act that's induced by force or fraud

or coercion. People often think about force, maybe the movie Taken someone being kidnapped and held in chains. Unfortunately, that can happen and does happen. But one of the primary ways in America that sex trafficking is in force is through psychological coercion, whether with children or adults. This can be grooming, building a relationship, building trust, and slowly escalating abuse until it gets to

a point of sex trafficking. So yeah, So, like I said, unfortunately this happens all across America, in small rural communities and in large cities as well. Very often it's online grooming on places like Instagram or even video games that are child centric, like roadblocks and other places, and so it's something that everyone definitely needs to be aware of and engaged on. Haley mcmall, Let's take us through a typical sarcumstance. All of them are outrageous.

Let's say there's a mother and two little girls, or a mother and a boy and a girl making their way from El Salvador and they walk through Mexico. How does the grooming, how does the process, how does the selling of those children begin, So all of sex trafficking, all of the money comes into this because of people who are willing to purchase someone for sex. So that's the market that the sex traffickers are using. So they'll find someone

for vulnerability. So in the case of a border, it's might be someone who's trying to cross and meets assistance and then they're told, you know that this is that by allowing people to buy purchase them is a way that they'll get a passage, or they might have a debt that is incurred and they're told this is the way to work off their debt, or you know, domestically, this might be a person who believes that they're in a romantic relationship

with the trafficker who says that, you know, by allowing someone to buy them is the way to make money for them to maybe run away or what have you. Of course, this is also such a big problem for homeless youth as well, so there's always kind of an extortion based on a vulnerability. But I think it's really important that we recognize that it's the sex buyers

who really are as a root cause of all sex trafficking. You know, if people didn't buy sex and sex trafficking would disappear overnight, and as far as the long term impact, if you're a seven, eight, nine, ten year old girl or a boy, it happens to both genders, and you find yourself trapped in this world, you look toward your mother or your

father for protection and for guidance. And when that wall of trust is broken down because the mother or the father or the person you're with has said you go with that man over there and do what he tells you to do, how does how does a child process that? How does a child look at that and say, a child doesn't even know I can get out of that? But what impact does that have on the child's life immediately? Yeah, the trauma is really i mean almost unmeasurable. So of course, you know,

trust, the ability to trust is greatly damage. Of course there's physical

damage and trauma and also psychological trauma. You know, severe mental health impacts have been noted in survivors of sex trafficking, you know, leading to struggling sometimes lifelong with depression or substance abuse issues as well, which is why you know, really donating to or supporting volunteering with exit services and recovery services mental health programs for survivors is so key because yes, it's it's just an untold amount of trauma as we sit here now, do you have some number as

the number of children in the United States of America being sexually trafficked at this point? Are we talking thousands, hundreds of thousands more? I would say at least hundreds of thousands. You know, the numbers on these things are really difficult because this is a crime that happens in the shadows, and most

of sex trafficking doesn't get reported. You know, sometimes we think that every sex trafficking victim would identify themselves as such, but typically they are, you know, in psychological chains and don't even recognize that they're being exploited while it's happening. So it's it's very difficult to get a strong number. But we do know that the majority, large percentage of youth online around a third or a fourth, do experience some kind of sexual overtone from adults online, whether

that's sexualized comment, a direct message trying to initiate a relationship. Obviously, not all of those are onboarding to sex trafficking, but we do see that there's a large amount of grooming and potential abuse that contacting children online and for some that could escalate to sex trafficking is what we've seen in Sound of Freedom, the number one movie of this summer. That is that a real depiction

of what occurs. Yeah, Unfortunately, it's true that there are you know, around the world, brothels and massage parlors and strip clubs where minors are sexually exploited. I would say that in America that does happen. Absolutely it does. But also, like I had said, a lot of it is facilitated online, and even recording of child sexual abuse being uploaded to mainstream pornography

sites and social media is a real epidemic right now. So I would say it looks somewhat different u in scale on internationally versus domestically, but the issue is very much still the same and is really real if you're a mother, a father, if you're an adult. Many times are antennants are not up on this kind of an issue. I know airlines and flight attendants are watching for this kind of stuff, but this is happening in suburbs, it's happening

next door, It's happening constantly. What are some of the cues are the keys that someone who wants to help can actually observe and see definitely, So

I would say do some research on the signs of sex trafficking. This could look a lot of different ways depending on your context, and there are national hotlines that you can report any suspected signs of sex trafficking too, but especially even for within your own community among children, especially if you see real changes in behavior, maybe a kid suddenly acting out, a kid who's maybe scared to go to sleep, or maybe regressing things like wedding the bed or there's

a number of different signs you can look for in children that you know in your own life, and even just crushing your own gut. If something seems off, it's good to ask questions and if there's a concern to report it or contact additional support to assess the situation, and it's a really important thing

to do it happens. Also, I've done topics on this before where a teenage boy or a girl gets into a situation with a trafficker that does not know it's a trafficker when it's going on, and pictures are taken, are shared and then extortion takes place. So if you live in a fine suburban community, and you have a vulnerable child, a boy or a girl. Explain the process of how traffickers get into the minds of children and then turn

them for profit. Absolutely, so, unfortunately, every child online is vulnerable to these things. I think people will often assume, even thinking of their own family as well, my child comes from a stable and loving family, they will be fine. This is an issue for other people. But unfortunately, with the Internet, every child is vulnerable. So and a predator might reach out initiate a relationship. They might even be known to the victim, or claim to go to their school, claim to be a friend of a

friend. So in the child's mind, they don't think to tell their parents that they're talking to a stranger online. They think they're talking to someone that they know. And then and then there really is a process of gaining that child's trust, and very often, like you said, it will escalate to asking for sexual images, and then those images can be used to extort either for the creation of more images, sometimes more extreme, or to even meet

in real life for sexual abuse or sex trafficking. And this kind of dynamic doesn't even only happen to children that happens to adults as well, and I'm sure your listeners are familiar with the terms like revenge pornography or the non consensual sharing of explicit images, which is often is to extore or keep someone in

an abusive relationship as well. So if you or someone that you know has dealt with this, if they're a minor, I would recommend going to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, and they have an entire program that helps removed images of children online and to get you connected with law enforcements.

That's the National Center on Missing and Exploited Children. And if you're an adult who's experienced your images being shared online, I would recommend the Cyber Civil Rights Initiative, and they also have a lot of persons for how to get images removed and how to involve law enforcement if needed. Haley mcmarrion in United States of America, I think ninety nine point nine percent of us consider this to

be a representation of absolute evil. But there are some movements of groups who contend that that a child, even a teenager, has the right to determine to have sex with an adult. And we did that topic about ten years ago, and I cut off in the middle. I said, that's it. We're not going to do that anymore. And isn't there a movement or an idea that if you're if you're a child, but that I mean seven, eight, nine, ten years old or a teenager sixteen or seventeen,

you should have the right to have sex with an adult. Yeah, Unfortunately, there is a real normalization of that concept that's happening, and so it's really important for us all to be vocal and strong about recognizing that that is child sexual abuse, and especially if there is the commercialized element. You know, under federal law, any kind of commercialized sex act involving a minor is by definition sex trafficking, even if that minor quote unquote agreed to it.

Right, So it's really important for us to know the laws on these matters and to speak out against normalization of child sexual abuse. Well, in this hit movie, of Course, the star Jim Cavezel plays a part of a government employee who becomes enraged at what he sees observing. In certain parts of

the world, this is acceptable. For example, in Asia, Africa, India, it is not that unusual for moms and dads to sell their children am I correct about then, yeah, and unfortunately that's happening in America as well of adults, even from them selling their children or allowing sexual abuse to happen to their children. So this is, you know, this is a

worldwide epidemic, and it's something that's a really dark topic. So people often feel like there's nothing that they can do, but there really is so much that can be done. So of course, you know, we've talked about investing in aftercare services, volunteering, knowing the signs yourself and being such an important part. But we also have a campaign called the Dirty dozen List,

where we named twelve mainstream companies that contribute to sexual exploiting. And many of those are online platforms that contribute to sex trafficking, such as Instagram, roblocks, Twitter and others that people don't really realize there's grooming happening. There's facilitation of advertisements for sex trafficking happening there. And if you go to dirty dozen less dot com you can take action in really tangible ways. You can email

the executives at these companies, and we've seen progress happen. TikTok, for example, has made it so that adult strangers cannot direct message miners anymore on their platform. This is so common sense and there's much more progress that needs to happen. But I would be I would want to encourage people that while this is it's quite a dark issue, and it is an epidemic around the world and within America as well, but there are steps that we can take

to try to prevent some of this harm from happening. And Handling McNamara, you've been at this, your group has for about sixty years. But of the sense things are getting worse, not getting better, is that fair? I think that that's true, especially with the rise of the Internet. You know, it's just made anyone who has an inclination to abuse another person have easy access to vulnerable people. So I think that's why we really focus on

kind of mass scale prevention is what we want to enact. We will always need exit services for people who've been victimized, but if we can prevent a number of people, especially children, for being contacted by exploiters in the first place, that can just prevent so much untold trauma. So that's a large part of what our organizations working to do, both with corporate policy, legislation and also litigation on behalf of Survivors. I'm looking at the headline of USA

Today the newspaper. It says why Sound of Freedom, Jim Caveasl's controversial child sex trafficking film is a hit, and I don't think it's controversial. I would hope we're divided politically among so many areas of life, but I would hope that the exploitation of the most innocent among us is such an issue that it's not controversial. It must be stopped. Those who are involved in it must be stopped, and men and some women, mainly it's men involved in

this trade have got to stop buying children once again. Dirty dozenlist dot com is out of sight, and what's another website? If someone suspects somehow the child's being exploited for sexual purposes, I would go to the National Human Trafficking Hotline, and there's a number you can text for calling. They also have a website. All right, Hailey McNamara, Vice President, National Center of Sexual Exportation of Children, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

I'm glad this movie is out. I would encourage everyone to see this movie. It's one of those things you have to understand what's happening, and this all around us constantly. We must act as one. And Haley McNamara once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and good luck

on all your ventures. Thank you, Haley, thank you. All right, let's continue the the line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, Bill Cunningham News Next at your home of the Reds News Radio seven hundred WLW I Major League Picture, Hunter Green. For your next new car, go to Jake Sweeney Chevrolet Fine New Roads and get up to sixty two fifty off Silverado Crew Cap fifteen hundred Reds first place. The Bengals picked to win the Super Bowl by many. FC Cincinnati two

years ago had the worst team on the MLS. Now they have the best team in the Major League Soccer. Plus Messi is coming to town. A year or so ago, Xavier won the n I. Now continue to do great things in the Big East and the Big twelve. Welcomes you see and one of the clogs in that wheel is going to be a core Xavier Basketball and Sean Sean Miller, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Sean, rather than talk about xs and os, I like to wax with you

philosophical. May I do that. I'm happy to be on go right ahead, all right now. When I look at the nil issue, Xavier is uniquely positioned in certain ways and not in great positions in other ways. I spoke to a noted coach on the West Coast who you know, who told me for some players, the bidding starts about a quarter of a million dollars to get some McDonald all American talent, and it goes up from there. And I would ask if Xavier, which is in the Big East, and

I think the best representative of Big East basketball is Zavier. You might want to throw in Villanova, but Xavier and also Connecticut good representatives. Can Xavier compete in an environment or some of the big ten ACC schools SEC schools are paying literally hundreds of thousands of dollars. Can Xavier compete in that environment? Yeah, Bill for sure. And you know, I think there's there's really a rule of thumb for us in terms of our approach to recruiting, and

that is this. It's it's like a ninety ten rule. Ninety percent of a young person's decision on whether they're gonna come and be a part of our program here at Xavier or not. That ninety percent hasn't changed, Right, they're gonna say we want to be a part of the small campus at Jesuit School. You know, a program that's had America's number one graduation rate for about thirty years. You know the city of Cincinnati where you have the best

of both worlds. You have the private setting right on the fringe of a great city, a pro city, the big East cost, the style of play, and I can keep on on and on. You know a head coach who as a track record, etc. Wanting to be a part of a program that's in the Ncuba tournament. That ninety percent has to be the

same. Then I think it's up to us as a as a program and a university to recognize that there is a different ten percent and that is name, image and likeness, And we have to have a plan, We have to take it serious, and we have to be able to treat our players. Right. If a young person, you know, isn't isn't kind of wired to that ninety ten. So let's just say they're looking for the most

amount of money, we're not going to get them. And I would also say that you know, this is young and new, this name, image and likeness. We haven't seen multiple seasons of it already. But I think a lot of the players that are going to make their decision for that reason, I think their time at that university would be short, short lived. And I'm not so sure that that's the you know, the fabric, the

culture, in the winning environment we want to create. So, you know, the ninety ten, you know, there's always going to be players that we can't get Bill, But I think as long as we keep dealing with the family, he's the high school coaches, either travel team coaches, and the young people that are really about that, I believe that the program we have will allow us to be successful. I look at it this way. Kolbe Jones pretty good player. I think it got eight million dollars to sign

in the NBA. David West came through Xavier. I think West played ten to twelve years, had some NBA rings. Byron Larkin, I think he's on my all time Xavier team along with Brian Grant played in the NBA and also Tyrone Hill, Romaine Soto and so if you want to come to if some player comes up to you and say, you know, Coach Miller, I need an extra two hundred thousand dollars to go to Xavier. You're likely to say this isn't the place for you. It's just not going to work.

But you actually the ninety ten that I talked about, right, you actually explained it through your analogy, and that is if you make your college decision for all the right factors. You know, the name, image and likeness is just a small part of it. You know, really what you're

signing up for is the next twenty or thirty years of your life. And if you get that the college decision right, like a lot of young people have, you know, where they're going to make the most money and have the best life is they're going to become a version of Kobe Jones and Kobe's next ten twenty years. You know, that's really what you're signing up for,

right, the development while you're in college. And and Bill I would say this, that's something that hasn't changed regardless of where you go, and for whatever reason you chose that program. You have to develop. None of these guys can do it alone, right, you know, part of going to colleges you grow up, you learn to solve problems, you get an education, you get bigger and stronger. You know, the sport did you play? You know, you start to learn it and you start to become

smarter, and you grow with experience that none of that has changed. And uh, and I think that getting the right reasons right allows you to have the best life after college. And those are really the that's the audience we're targeting. Sean Miller. I can recall you playing guard for Pittsburgh, the

Panthers obviously at the Cincinnati Gardens rooting against you like crazy. And at that point, if somebody would have come up to you as a starting guard and said, hey, we're gonna pay you fifteen or twenty thousand dollars to play guard, you would have said, what are you talking about? Can you imagine the way the world has changed. It used to be if some kid

got tattoos and exchanged for a basketball jersey, he was suspended. On the other hand, now some kids are getting a hundred thousand dollars to play basketball at Xavier. Could you have seen that change that and it happened rapidly? What the hell happened at college basketball? Yeah? You know the way that I look at it is no matter what industry you're in, including your own industry that you have, It's just the world evolves and grows and changes and

adapts, and you have to be evolved and adapt with it. And look, what once was is no longer. There's no doubt about it. It's it's certainly a different feel, and everybody's trying to kind of get used to it or strategize on how we all can be successful in the new world that we're in. But one thing is it's just like no different than the phones we have in our pockets. Like twenty years ago you barely talked on the phone, didn't have a cell phone, and you imagine now living your life

no without bone that you currently owned. So I think that some of it is, you know, recognizing that it's not just college basketball. It's changing. Everything is changing, and it's up to us to adapt and evolve. And you know, you ask me that question, that's our plan at Xavier, and you know we're fortunate, Bill, and that you know on our campus we don't have college football. I can't imagine dealing with both college football

and college basketball and name, image and likeness. I'm just the basketball coach and you know, I think we try to take advantage of that as well. Now you have seven or eight or nine kids. If you're a big time football school, you might have fifty sixty football players. Then you got the girls softball team. They want to be paid. And then you got the baseball team. How can the LSU And there was a story that LSU baseball cost a million dollars for a baseball pitcher at LSU. I'm thinking,

are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? And that I said, and the answer is no. They're building the stadiums and at some point the arms race has got to stop. I don't know where it ends, but a kid that goes to the Xavier campus in this community, and you look at what we got going on with soccer and football and basketball and baseball. You look at the southern shores of Ohio, the great northern Kentucky. You look a little bit to the west, you got in the end of the

Indianapolis five hundred. You look at the Kentucky Derby. You look at Ohio State football or you see football. If that this is the place to be, and I pray to God Sean Miller, you look nowhere else that I was Xavier, the harbor, the deep blue waters of Xavier basketball, to be the last place that you go to. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, well, thank you. I appreciate you saying that. I'm I'm I'm both grateful to be back and then really enjoying my time being back here.

And to your point, Bill, sometimes when you leave this area, not until you're in a different area do you realize, you know, just from a sports perspective, you know so much greatness and opportunity here. You're right, I mean, if you just look in college basketball, and I tried to explain this to people when I when I didn't live in Cincinnati. You know, on a typical weekend in January, when you add up the people that are going to be you know, at at a Kentucky game,

Louisville game, you see game Dayton Xavier, Indiana. If you add all that up, I mean you start to get into you know, hundreds of thousands of people at the same time watching college basketball, all within a couple hour radius. And uh, it's it's something that you can take for and something that I certainly won't take for granted moving forward. It's right to be here involved in sports, and I'm thrilled to be back at Z Well.

I'm told you're a swifty and that one week and we had Taylor Swift concert. We had one hundred and twenty five thousand, we had the Reds with the Reds had about one hundred and twenty five thousand, TQL had twenty five thousand. I'm told you had. You're on the front row of Taylor Swift concert going nuts. Well, it's not true. I will tell you that I went to the Cincinnati red game and you know I have I'm second cousins

with TJ. Friedl. I don't know if you knew that. So t J. Friedel's grandfather who's passed away, was the brother of my grandmother who's also passed away. Her name was was Freedl, and so yeah, I'm related to him. And you know his story bills amazing and that he was a walk on at Nevada and you think about leaving high school becoming a walk on baseball player at Nevada and then here he is hitting leadoff for the Cincinnati

Reds and doing an amazing job. I mean, I don't know another analogy that can show you where he would have been at eighteen years old and where he is today in life. We're all very proud of him and U so I watched the Reds closely. Oh, that guard from Pittsburgh did pretty well too. But uh so the reports of you being a swift, it may not be accurate. But there was a picture floating around at you in the front row with a seed coin hat on. But maybe that maybe that wasn't

you. But Sean Miller, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and with your permission, will do it again. Thank you, Sean. Oh okay, thank you, thanks for having me on. God bless America. Let's continue with more news next at Rum with the Reds News Radio seven hundred w L one eight ten and sending colleger kids ok as cousin one eight tenn setting calls for kids today Cars for Kids dot org. Your car running or not could be picked up as soon as the next day, no titles,

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