That got us our game itself is tonight. But first of all, the Supreme Court ruled about ten days two weeks ago important matters about individual liberty, and Senator jd Vance as caution, college is to comply with the affirmative action ruling. John, and you and I now is that same? Senator Vans and Senator Vans, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show, and tell us why you thought it was necessary to send the letter. What's in the letter
and what is the concern that you have? Well, yeah, well so, so, first of all, the Supreme Court rules rightfully, in my opinion, that you can't discriminate against people based on the color of the skin of this country and college admissions that was the subject of the case. Now,
that's obviously the right decision to make. But as soon as it comes out, you have college administrations from across the country, especially at our most elite colleges, both inside and outside the state of Ohio, basically saying we're going to violate this ruling. We're gonna find ways to subvert the intention of the ruling, to find ways to discriminate against people on the basis of skin
color. Basically, they continue to award spots in our elite colleges based on whether you belong to the right racial group, and we fought to ourselves. Look, if these colleges are telegraphing that they're going to violate the law, we should warn them that if they do, we're going to come after them. We're going to investigate them, We're going to identify the ways in which they've subverted the law. And look, we're going to identify ways in which
potentially they can face some consequences for it. And I think that's important, Willie, because when you have the Supreme Court, even if you disagree with the decision, even if you disagree with JD. Vans or Willing Cunningham, and you think that you should be able to award favored racial groups with spots and college admissions, the Supreme Court says you can't. And if you're going to be a system and a country of laws, you can't have administrators saying
the Supreme Court is issued opinion, we're going to ignore it. That's not how the system works, And Senator, it comes from the top. Normally, we have a system of government checks and balances in which the president executes the law. The Congress makes the law, the Supreme Court interprets the law. And so when the June twenty ninth decision came out, we had the specter of President Joe Biden almost immediately going to the microphone saying, you know
what, I disagree with it. I'm going to ignore it. I'm gonna work around it. We're gonna try plan A, plan B, Plan C. He gave the message to colleges and universities to not comply with the law. It got so bad. Irwin Schemerinsky who's the dean of the University of California Berkeley Law School, and Schemerinsky has been there like twenty five years, and he was caught on tape by a student that afternoon saying, what we're gonna do now is putting nothing in writing. I'll send you the clip off
your staff if you haven't seen it. No emails, no Texas. And what we're gonna do is continue to have racial discrimination, but we're not going to put it in writing. And then if I'm under oath and a deposition, if I swear to God to tell the truth, I'm gonna lie about what we're doing. And that's the law. S Dean hiring faculty and matting students. How do you reach into that circumstance and make him applicable to the
Supreme Court. When he's the chair of the Constitutional Law Committee in Berkeley, he's the dean of the law school, he's the decision maker, and he's saying, guess what, I'm not going to pay attention to the law. How do you react to that? It's just crazy, Willie. Think about this guy, one of the most important people in the legal profession, a guy who brings in new law students, who trains them, who prepares them for the legal profession, effectively telling them that he's going to lie in order
to accomplish a policy preference of his. By the way, Willie, that's illegal, right, That's the definition of perjury. If you go into a deposition you swear an oath to tell the truth and you don't, that's a criminal violation. And so we just have to expose these people to consequences. And that that was really the point of the letter is, Look, if you're going to violate the law, preserve the documents, because we're going to come after you. These guys have got to know their consequences for it.
This is sort of an age old principle. It's true when you're dealing with a three year old kid. It's apparently true if you're dealing with law school administrators. People know that if there are no consequences for violating the rules, they'll keep on violating those rules. At least some people will. And that's why we have to be willing to do consequences. I think that something's happening Willie in the conservative movement. It's a good thing for our country. But
we're saying we're not just going to talk about this stuff. We're not just going to wind about this stuff. We're actually going to be willing to cause people who break the law to suffer consequences for it. That's something the left has been willing to do for thirty forty fifty years. Even when people don't break the rules, they're willing to send the justice system after them. We have to be willing to send the justice system after people when they break the
law. If you don't have that, you don't have equal protection of the law in this country, and we need to bring it back. Well, it's reminding me and what happened with Brown versus Board of Education in nineteen fifty four, when the Supreme's rule that's separate but equal plus versus Ferguson is not the law of the land anymore. We're gonna have black kids getting the same kind of quality public education as white kids. It took ten to twenty years.
And when that came out, you had the Democrats, the same political party, the Democrats in the South, said you know what, we're going to ignore the law. We're not gonna admit black kids the Little Rock High School. And it took ten to twenty years for the Democrats to understand that the law applies to them. I guess I'm shocked that I'm watching this same political party in nineteen fifty four that stood in the doorway in Alabama and Arkansas
and Mississippi and will not admit black kids. That same political party in twenty twenty three is saying we're not gonna we're gonna keep practice racism. We're gonna have a qualified admission standard for black kids as opposed to white kids. And so I would ask you, Senator Advance, what's changed this nineteen fifty four with the Democrat Party. Well, really, of course, they've just changed
the skin color. Are the people they're discriminating against. That's really it, Willie is is if you look at the history here, there's always, of course been racial discrimination in almost every society across time in place. What's unique, of course about our country is that we set up a system of laws and consequences to try to prevent this stuff from happening. That's an admirable thing. But of course whenever it happens, somebody tries to subvert it. And
that's really what we're going after here, Willie is. Look, I don't care if you're white, or you're black, or you're something in between. I want if you're a deserving applicant at a college, if you're a deserving applicant at a medical school, if you're a deserving applicant to fly a plane that of course all of us that our children fly on every single day, all across our country. We just want the best person for the job. We want the person who deserves it, who worked hard for it, who
has the merit and the work ethic. We want that person to get the job. But there is a group of people who want a racial soil system in this country, that want to divvy up who gets what, not according to who earned it, but according to skin color. It's always been an impulse that exists in the human heart. I think that it's wrong. I think we have to continue to fight against it. And this is all we're
doing right now. If you could step back a little bit, William, think about you know what it took to get us to this point where the Supreme Court is saying you cannot have racial discrimination or reverse racial discrimination. It took a lot of work. It took a lot of arguments, It took a lot of Senate confirmations, a lot of Senate elections to elect the right people who would vote up people like Clarence Thomas and Justice sam Alito. This
is really what it has taken. It's a great actually day for the country when you have the Supreme Court saying our founding principles say you've got to treat everybody equally. It's shocking to me that people are offended by that. But
of course some people are. Imagine if a JD vance at a little Middletown, Ohio and Butler County, Ohio with the background that you have, and for many listening locally and around the nation that don't know your background, it was may I say awful that you were raised by your grandmother and you had a terrible family, drug addiction problem, heroin, etc. You want in
the military service, you got a minute to Yale. If there is a racial spoil system in place some twenty five years ago, when you went to Yale and you were the wrong skin color jd Vance, maybe never would have
happened. No, that's exactly right, Willie. I'm very mindful of that that I was the beneficiary of a country that allowed me to achieve some incredible things because it gave me a chance, it gave me some mentors, it gave me some good opportunities, and things worked out for me through some combination of hard work and good luck. Things worked out for me. I think these people are trying to take it away from the next generation of American children.
They're trying to teach these kids to see themselves as victims, and they're trying to say that if you want to achieve anything in this country, you better say the right things. You better pretend to be the member of a victim group, because that's how we're going to divvy up things in this country, not based on merit and hard work, but based on victimology, and I think that's going to destroy the psychology of a generation of young people.
It's going to destroy one of the critical things that makes this country a great place to live. Now here's the other crazy thing about this, Willie, is it's destroying the talent that will power the country for the next generation. And we want high quality surgeons, high quality airline pilots. We want brilliant
scientists inventing therapies that solve the next generation of great medical challenges. If you teach people that they get into our good schools and our good professions not by being bright and working hard, but by trying to claim the mantle of a victim, you're going to destroy so much of what makes this country great. Speaking of a victim, I live in a corporate environment, and you leave you're kind of an entrepreneur. You came into politics horizontally, not vertically.
Every year in a corporate environment, we have to go through two hours of sexual harassment training. And this is true, and every conceivable corporate structure you got to be. There's no water cooler talk anymore about what did you do last night? Who are you dating? God forbid, if you would ask
somebody out in the workplace. It gives generally to a woman power. On one hand, in the corporate environment, we're all adults and we're being taught and told do not do this, do not do that, to not talk about sex, to not talk about dating, to not talk about anything of that character. On the other side of the equation, you have three small
children. I often hear of grade school. There's elementary school, junior high in which there's a sexualized environment in which nine year old little boys and nine year old little girls are asked, what is your gender? You are gendered fluid right now? Forty percent? A Brown university considered themselves to me, shall we say LGBTQ plus plus forty percent, which I don't believe at all.
So on one side, Senator Advance, we have a corporate structure that says you can't get anywhere close to sexual harassment or sexual talk in the workplace. On the other side, and public and private schools, we have an indoctrination of children and sexual matters that are inappropriate for a grade schooler. How can we have a corporate structure telling adults and what they can't do in their workplace? Then it's a free fire zone and an elementary school. How is
that possible? You know, it's It's weird, isn't it, Willie? That we're treating children like adults and adults like children. And I think that's that's the symptom of a very diseased mind, and unfortunately a lot of our elites suffer from, I think some very very bad ideas, and our society is dealing with the consequences of it. Can you talk about sexual harassment in
the workplace? And I think this is one of these issues where, of course you don't want the boss to come to one of his underlings and basically say you have to do something for me or to me as a condition of employment. That's illegal and rightfully so. But you can't take that principle and then and then tell too consenting adults that they can't ask each other out on
a date. And that's unfortunately. I think what's happened in a lot of our workplaces in the country is that we've we've taken sexual harassment, which is a bad thing, and we've put in a situation where we treat consenting adults
like children. It's funny you asked about this, really because it was a law school professor of mine actually wrote this really interesting article, she's a liberal, called the Sanitized Workplace, and her basic argument was that we've we've so sanitized the workplace that we've made it miserable for a lot of consenting adults. Like you said, they're not talking to each other around the water coolere terrified that they're going to offend their coat workers. If you're terrified you're going to
offend somebody, you can't build a relationship with that person. So yeah, we've got to get back to treating adults like adults and children like children, not the other way around. Lastly, about a minute remaining. East Palestine is one of the causes that you've taken up. And I see that our governor, or, the good Governor, Mike Dwine, is asking the President to declare the disaster area. Here we're are the middle of July. What's the latest on East Palestine. Well, you know, the cleanup at East
Palestine is proceeding a pace. That's a good thing. Actually, that's always been to me the first and most important thing. We've got to finish the cleanup in East Palacetine, get the toxic soil out of the ground there, dispose of it properly before people can go back to living their lives. We're really now, i think, transitioning to the point where we're focused on the
economic devastation. A lot of livelihoods destroyed, property values destroyed. We've got to get some people some money to make up for that, and we've gotten some of that, but we've got to keep on working it and getting people more of the resources that they deserve because of this disaster. And then, Willie, the thing we're going to be worried about for the next ten years
is long term health consequences. We're focused in our office and making sure that people are getting the testing that they want and that they need, so that if they do have God forbids and health consequences for this, either a year from now or ten years from now, they know about it and they can get they can get what they need to get some help. All right, Senator to J. D. Evans once again this Tuesday afternoon, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Good luck on all your ventures.
Thank you, senatorially, thank you here. Let's continue with more to me. It is beyond ridiculous that workplace has so infected with sexual harassment and concerns. And I'm not in favor of anyone having to do anything against their will or wishes. But about one third of our relationships begin in the workplace. That's where many of us been a lot of our time. So, as the Senator said, we treated doves like children and children like adults. And
so much of public education is not anymore about education. It's about indoctrination and marching Marxists come out of schools ready to change the world to a socialistic heaven that doesn't exist. And so a forewarnedness, forearmed. Let's continue with more your comments from next plus. After one o'clock today will be Liz Bonus of Channel twelve. She's going to talk about getting bit in the butt by mosquitoes on news radio seven hundred WLW. No, that's amazing. Be careful near
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