By Billy cunning in the Great America this Wedday, Wednesday afternoon in the tri State, of course, Reds Baseball. They're now impregnable. They're unbeatable. Hope. They got beat up by the Tigers big time. Fortunately a high school teams in town called the Colorado Rockies. And I want to know where Hines has been for the past two or three months. This guy's unbelievable. All the action starts about eleven, about six oh five pm tonight with the
Lands getting ready for the game, the big Game tonight. But before that, I'm watching CNN. I'm watching Liz Bonus, the medical reporter of twelve or twelve stands for News. And there's concerns issued by some about ozempic and these other weight loss drugs that have downsides almost everything does. Plus there's a case of the Black plague, the Black Death. One case has come to America. Does not mean half Americans will die either by nuclear war, an
asteroid to black death, or maybe COVID. Until then, Liz Bonus, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham showing How are you? Oh, that's quite an introduction, really, I'm great. How are you? Pretty good? You know I am a little worried though, that Colorado's playing here, right, because that's where they saw this case of the plague. Well, I mean, uh, I don't know what to say. Maybe the players are infected, the better players are left back in Denver. But the black plague
is something I didn't think i'd have to deal with. But before we talk about ozempek and weight loss, drugs, nuclear war and possibly we're going to be wiped out by this new chicken virus, talk to me about the black plague. Where does it come from? Or are we all going to die or just half of us? Well, probably none of us if we just simply know what it is, what we could do about it. The black
plagus you call it, or the plague, is an infectious disease. It's called caused by a bacteria called your Sinia pestis, and it's actually transmitted by fleas infected probably here you probably hear it called the black death. That's kind of what we know it as just simply because it was from an outbreak that did kill millions of people in Europe in the Middle Ages, and the bacteria
circulates naturally among rodents, but it really infects humans. So the CDC is like, we're not freaked out about this yet, but we do know there's been a human case. How the person got it, we're not sure. But if you got bit by an infected flea that infected an animal and then you've got some droplets on you, you know, from the animal, and then you coughed or sneeze, you could spread it to another person. So it's possible, but nobody's saying just yet that that's how we're all going to
go. The really important thing is that if you have some really unusual, like kind of flu like symptoms and it's hard to know, like whoever thinks you're gonna have a plague, this is totally treatable with antibiotics before it gets out of control. It's just you don't know you have it. You're not looking for plague. So the real thing right now, and I've been following this a lot, is to find out if you have any cold like symptoms. Do you have a cold which is just a virus, do you have
covid, which is now a new strain going around. We knew this was going to happen after everyone travel all over the world from fourth of July or is it allergies or is it something weird like this? If you have the symptoms of the Black Death, are they similar to the flu, to covid symptoms, to allergies, to sinus problems. You could have the Black death or you could have sinus infection? Is that it? Are those the choices? Yeah, they're very similar to start, like by the end you're pretty
sick. But yeah, but when it starts, it's going to feel like some other virus and you're like, oh, I don't feel very good. The muscle aches, the weakness, all that stuff. But you can like avoid infection with the plague really if you just don't go to places where wild rodents exist. So if I were you, I'd be staying out of the brush, the rock piles, the trash. You know, I'll do my best. What if they call it like you know, when you go like
garbage or whatever. You you don't want to jump into a dumpster late at night. So if I stay out of a dumpster and don't fondle a mouse, I might be in good shape. Yeah, I think you're gonna be okay. They're like worldwide there are human play cases, maybe like three thousand a year. And if you get them treated early, they're fine. But this isn't something we want to play with. We don't want this to spread there, and I know you don't want to hear this. They're actually working
on a plank vaccine, but it's not available in the United States. Right now, I'm done with vaccines. I'm not taking anymore. I'm not taking the Should I take the black death vaccine when it's available in case I, well, suddenly my body turns dark on the edges? What do I do? I mean, black death almost wiped out Europe, like one third or a half were killed. That they thought it was like the condemnation of God, and the devil was involved. They had which sacrifices, all kinds of
stuff. They didn't know it was the fleas. If you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas. They didn't know that. So you're saying the black death. Well, where in my order a priority is concerned for the black death? There's a high low meat. I think it's I think it's at the bottom of the death. Unless you have fever, children coughing, swollen limp nodes. You know that don't go away. And it's getting worse and so better whatever that is, you should still get it checked
out. I'll get a checked out and then we won't have the vaccine for a while. But I know you're like, I'm never taking another shot. I understand that I'm not doing it. But when you see your friends dropping like flies pardon the punch, with a bacteria like this, you're going to line up like. It's not a joke. It's a very serious illness. So if Tony Benner shows up in the morning with black feet, fingers and noses and he's coughing, don't get close to Tony and don't exchange bodily fluids
with him. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, you know nowadays, given the way human resources worked, if I were you, I wouldn't be exchanging Bodley fluds with anyone at work. Save that one, right there, Tony, That is a great cut, right there. Save that one for Liz Bonus. Let's get to the real reason we're here. I'm watching the last few days, I've seen lawyers, and god knows we need more lawyers. The class action lawsuits are being filed at and so zempic and other weight
loss drugs that it causes fever. It causes chills, it causes blindness, it causes impotency, heart disease, cancer, it causes gout. The thesozempic drugs, now, the big time law firms who make money off the misery and death of others are advertising now if you're taking ozempic or these other weight loss drugs, call me now. If you got the sniffles, it's all
caused by ozempic. And then I'm watching sonse Gupta, who I kind of pay attention to a little bit, either yesterday or today about there's seven times more likeliness of going blind. Kind of like I guess if you're masturbate or something you go blind, it's seven times more chance. If you take ozempic, you might go blind. Can you weigh in on weight? Because segment's thinking about taking weight loss drugs, he's thinking about taking ozempic and on on
want segment to go blind? On me? So what's the reality if the weight loss drugs are going blind? Yeah? I always wonder why every guy knows, you know what the connections started blindness, but never heard of this one before. What's up with that? I know? All right, So let's break this down. There's a couple of problems. One is that a lot of the people who are getting these drugs couldn't get them paid for by
insurance, so they started going to places that make them off label. You can compound pharmacy these drugs, and some of those people ended up with weird formulas that cause complication. So you can't just blame the name brands like will Go vio Zenbic. You know they've been highly regulated, So the first thing
is where are you getting whatever the drug is. But the blindness thing is interesting because I've always said, you know, even with the vaccines, you never know what's going to happen in someone's body with a newer medication until half the world is on it. And we just started seeing these take off with especially the celebrity influence. These GLP ones and what they do is they basically prolong the satiety in the gut, so your gut emptying is slower. Now.
You say people are concerned about lawsuits about cancers and things like that, but there's also a lot of evidence that they may fight cancers, and fight heart disease and fight diabetes complications because if you lose weight a lot of those things, your risk goes down. But this blindness thing caught my attention too, because it's a very rare kind and it's something called non arterieric anterior ischemic optic neuropathy, and it it actually causes a sudden blindness to a lack of
blood flow to the optic nerve. And so what happened is in one one eye doctor's office, he had like three people come in where all of a sudden, they had this sudden blindness, and he noticed. The eye doctor noticed that all of these people were taking these GLP wants. And so you know, if you go back through it, you may or may not have grounds for a lawsuit because some of these things are listed is rare but not usual complications. So you know that maybe one in a thousand, one in
a million things. But what they don't know yet, and this is why it's really care You gotta be really careful. They don't know if the drug causes that or if it just has a higher association because most of the people who are taking it have type two diabetes or have obesity, and those are already associated with some of these blinding diseases. So according to the statistics, instead of three out of ten thousand it is seven out of ten thousand of
people using these GLP DASH one drugs. They use the term twice as likely, but it goes from three out of ten thousand to seven out of ten thousand. And I guess you have a choice of being obese. You can be fat or blind. Those are your choices. Well, but the greater thing is if you address the obesity, your risk for all these other complications goes down, so you're less likely they have a heart attack, you know. So I hesitate to say don't take the drug when we only have an
association, not a cause. We don't know if that's what's causing it. It could just be because you have high blood triggers or something, you know what I mean. You know that site problems happen all the time in people with diabetes. But I think it is really important that we find out number one and number two. I think when everybody it doesn't bother me. If somebody's medically overweight and your doctor says, hey, this is probably going to
prolong your life, and it's a good choice. But if you're taking this, which I know I have girlfriends that have done it, yeah, I'm just taking it to those twenty pounds per the wedding. You know two things you need to know. One is you don't know the risk. It wasn't designed to be a short term drop some pounds. It was designed to be a long term medication that you stayed on for maybe for life, we think
like high blood freshure medicine. And then the other thing is that you know you need to pay attention to like where you're getting it from and whether or not once you go off it, you're going to regain all that weight back. Because right on the ads you see for all these it says most people did gain back the weight. They call it, you know, ozempic rebound.
Most people did gain back the weight once they went off it. So if we find out something awful like it's associated with some risk of blindness or anything else, and then all these people go off it, it's not like the weight's going to stay down if you didn't already choose to moderate your lifestyle and start to exercise that awful thing that we all have to do, like eat less and exercise more to lose weight. And so we don't know the
outcome. The lawyers are flying around the issue, and so many off labeled drugs are being used which don't have deep pockets to go into. The makers of ozempic certainly have deep pockets to go into. But if one starts this regiment, unless you change your behavior by eating better foods and eating less and exercising, the odds of you getting all your weight back are like nine out of ten. And so this would have to be a life term deal.
Lifetime deal to do it, and that means you've got to be committed to do it for the rest of life. And if you're forty or fifty years old, you got to take this drug for forty years. God only knows what the what the outcome is on decade after decade used, we don't know, And so no, and until everyone goes on it, we really don't
know. You know, you study populations, and you study large populations if you can, and they've been looking at these GLP ones for two decades, you know, and this never showed up at this rate until you know, we got millions of people on it. So you know, you have to make a decision. Is what's more dangerous to me my risk of some potential site related complication. We don't know for sure. As linked to medicine, or is my weight and my diabetes so out of control that that's probably going
to harm me. First, we don't know like how long the people that had this were on this drug, how long they were taking it. We don't know, you know, if there was something they already had in their family history that made them predisposed to an eye problem. There's a lot of stuff we need to find out. But before I jumped on the bandwagon, I would at least give myself other options. What else can ixt? What's
your segment, Dennis? What is what is segment's routine? Now? Well, it's Ron's Roost, It's uh, Frish's Big Boy, It's two or three trips through Wendy's. Uh, you're talking about chicken wings. You're talking about hamburgers. You're talking about Skyline and gold Star Chili. You're talking about spaghetti and meatballs. He goes nuts over at UDF shakes that kind of stuff. Well, you know, last I knew that wasn't the best formula for keeping weight down. But I don't blame him. I blame the business.
Do you notice how hard this business is on your waistline? Oh? My goodness, you work every crazy hour you're up all night, you get called all night. You you are like always under stress, you're like sitting and then you're running around. You're scheduled all over the place. So getting regular exercise at the regular time is hard. There's all kinds of things that like
are not SEG's falls. And let's not just pick on Seg by the way, because all of us could spare lose a few lose a few pounds, you know, as there's Ron's roost and Udif shakes right there in the kitchen, and it's Ron's roost fried chicken which is great, and Udf maltz and Seg takes two, one for each hand. What do you think, Ah, don't be picking I would I would tell anyone that likes those foods to do half the half a dozen chicken wings instead of a dozen, and half
the milkshake instead of the whole one, because I'm convinced. But look, that's what we do, Willie. We go all or nothing, and you're picking out or you're starving, and then you have like no shot at keeping it off. What I would do is, there's a lot of weight loss places now that offer a myriad of therapy, so you can consider the weight loss medications, but you can consider like they still have the weight belts if
you want to have something put in. They have weight balloons as you know that, like the the people at journey Light will put a U weight loss balloon in your stomach and it just literally does well, not exactly what the drugs do, but it makes the stomach so that it pretty much feels full and then want to lose the weight. They can take them out if you
want, And lots of people don't even realize there are other options. And really, if you're leading to a point where you might need to consider obesity surgery that has been shown to have a far better long term success rate at keeping this off, and it's far safer than it ever used to be. At least we know people come off their medications. We have these long term
outcomes. So I just think you need to look at all your options rather than thinking I've always I've known since the second there was hey there's the magic pill, that people were going to go, I'm just going to take it, and then you know we're here, We're starting to hear about things that we would not have heard about before. Well, Liz Bonus you're the best there is. We have a choice of black death, the plague. We've got flu allergies, we've got COVID, we have obesity and going blind and
your optic nerve not getting enough blood. I think we've covered quite a few topics today, and you know what that says to me, sadly, It's called eternal job security. If you're a medical reporter, you're number one man. You have nothing, but you'll do that as long as you can. And you're still skinny and attractive, which is a great thing. Mane, if you had this segment, Rachee, Matt, this business is hard on you. I know it, but you seem like you survived. But segment
has not survived. When when he first came here, he and I were together, he weighed one hundred and sixty pounds. Now each leg weighs one hundred and sixty pounds. So it's a problem, you know. I feel his pain, Like it is so hard to maintain a healthy weight. If I didn't drag my butt up and get on the treadmill every day, and I have to do it at two, three, four in the morning somedays, I would never be able to maintain a healthy weight. It's too hard.
There's food everywhere all the time. Liz Bonus, The Power of twelve. Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show this glorious Wednesday afternoon, Liz, thank you very much. Hey, no bodily fluids exchanging, all right, have a great day. Save that cut right there, Liz Bonus,
Thank you very much. Well, let's continue with more if line becomes availables five and three, seven four, nine, seven thousand coming up more including nuclear war where you dive from obesity, optic nerve damage, the Black Death or nuclear war. Those are your options on news radio seven hundred WLW