All right, Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome to this glorious but hot Monday afternoon in the Tri States. Reds Baseball kicks off about five forty tonight, Reds and Pittsburgh. What dramatic games in Milwaukee, of course, the Reds have now lost eight consecutive series to the Brew Crew, which is
not good but extremely competitive. And a relative is second base. Gordon Vettererino always told me, when you're on second base and you anticipate a single, you take a walking lead, take two or three more steps, and then when the ball is hit with two houses, takeoff. I'm not sure that happened, but nonetheless, Reds lose two out of three. Back at it in Pittsburgh to night. But until then, Brian Hamrick, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Brian, how are you. I'm good, Thanks
for getting this for Cunningham. We're gonna talk about the main streets of Madisonville. But before we got there, a little birdie whistler in my ear that you went to see the Rolling Stones. Tell me where were they? Mick Jagger, what about Keith Richards, Ronnie Woods, Bill Man, Charlie Watts, May not have been there. Keith Moon may not have been there, Brian Jones may not have been there. But tell me about the Rolling Stones. Tell me the story. Oh, this was a I'll tell you what.
I've seen him a few times. I think this was the best. I think they were better than I've ever seen him before. The setup was great. It was in Cleveland, so we were at Cleveland Brown Stadium. I don't know how many people that things hold polls that it was jammed to every seat that was available. You didn't have the behind the stage, they didn't sell those, but the entire stadium was jam packed mostly you know, like mostly buzzers my age. You know. I think I was one of
the younger people. It was one of the only places I go anymore where I'm the younger guy, you know. And I know that was good by younger people because I took my three boys who had never seen him, and I'm just like, this is like rock history. Look, you cannot you know. The first concert ever took him to was Paul McCartney and they loved that. And uh and so I took him to see the Rolling Stones and they were they were blown away. And these guys, I mean the setup
they had there. It was christy. You could hear every guitar string and we were up you know, and you could see the whole thing. And those guys they they didn't Yeah. I got to tell you, man, I hadn't lost a step since the sixties. They looked and sounded awesome. And they're the eighties, right yeah. Yeah. Now when I say looked awesome, I mean the show looked great that they the guys look like you
know, they you can tell they've had a few years. It was interesting because Mick Jagger, they they you never saw a close up of him. They had like they would shoot him at best from about the knees up. That's about as close as you ever saw on the big screen. Mick Jagger, he's like he learned the same thing I did on the TV. I said, none of these head and shoulder shots for me. I don't want to scare the kids. Well, the thing is, you talk Tony Bender
tells me the Beatles are the greatest rock band of all time. And I tell Tonis, I agree, the music over those ten years, But you talk about sixty years making Hiss, selling out stadiums. Mick Jagger, Keith Richards especially to me, that's on president. I can't imagine any other rock band ever going sixty years and selling out stadiums. I may put the Rolling Stones out of the Beatles at this point. I might do it. It's amazing. I mean, yeah, it's a real toss up for what you
know. The Beatles opened the door and did so many kind of different things with music that weren't being done, hadn't been done and thought of. But like you said, the long jevity of the tone, I mean, it's a heck of a quandary really to have two that you would have to say, But which really is at the top of the I mean, there's so many other great you know that and those guys climbed up, you know, the Chuck Berry you know way to get there, and the great you know,
Elvis and the people that came before them. But yeah, to talk about rock and roll bands, I mean, they're certainly, you know, got to be among the well, I don't know who else you'd put really in a conversation with those two. And that said, let's talk about the mean streets of Cincinnati. There are some narrator wells and misinformed that believe crime is way down. Talk about Madisonville, what happened there, Bramble Park shooting.
You're working that plus this pervert trying to pick up kids. Brian Hamrick, You've been there for a long time. The mean streets of Cincinnati never been so mean. Explain the investigation of the Bramble Park shooting in Madisonville. Well, you know, they're trying to figure out who came down there. Here here they are. You know, these folks that are out there in the community are trying to put on They're trying to do what you need to
do to make your community safe and nice and somewhere. You know, kids have something to do, people can go out. I mean, this is you know, one of the measures that you take to get and get to the steps and get to the peace that you want. And in the middle of it, here comes somebody with a gun, some numbskull who wants to open up fire. Who knows, you know, at this point we don't know if somebody was targeted. Is this something they just did because they were
trying to get a laugh out of it? Where they looking for somebody in particular? These are the kind of things that the police are trying to track down right now. There were apparently no officers at the event, but the chief was talking about that yesterday saying, look, we can't be at every single event. You know, there's events all over and we're spread pretty thin.
And she actually used the word tired in the summer's beginning, and we're already tired talking about the number of you know, people that they need and that they're still trying to fill some of those voids. But you know, that's not something you exactly expect to hear from your chief or from your police, like we're tired getting tired. It's much to hear that. Well,
that's because there's so little crime. You know, they're tired because they have so they eat donuts all day, they got nothing to investigate, and they're tired. Chief Thiji said, we need help. I can't imagine right if one or two individuals are cranking off twenty to thirty shots and no one saw anything in hundreds of people. Do you believe that. Do you think there's a fear of coming forward? Oh? I think that's still out there.
I mean it's still out there, and it's something that you know, a lot of these folks that we see out on the street all the time talk about you know, Mitch Morris and pastor Peterson Mingo and these guys, they talk about that concern. But they and I think they've done better over the years to try and make people more comfortable about coming forward and anonymous tips and these sorts of things. But that's still something you know, snitches get stitches.
That's something that's still is out there and it's still a concern and you know, people fo afraid to come forward. Even now. Like I said, I think it's better than it was, but there that still is. That's a dark cloud looming over the business of investigation people trying to you know, get answers on what happened or something like this. According according to the police, there were two witnesses of the shooting told the police there was a
fisticuff fight broke out at the event and gunshots rang out. They were unsure if the gunfire came from those fighting. Roughly thirty shots were fired. Witnesses said there were hundreds of people in Bramble Park and Madisonville, including many children, many babies. Five were injured. One is in critical condition and at
this point they're asking silence is a form of violence. Does anyone who has information or may witness this tragic event, we asked you please come forward Cincinnati and should be upset this is happening repeatedly the other there were other drive by shootings last week. There were three drive buys over a two day period. To my knowledge, no one's arrested for that. In your long hit, you've been out of it for twenty five or thirty years. Do you think
there's more of these events happening now than ever before in Cincinnati? You know, just on a basis where I'm looking at, you know what, without any looking at any statistics, it seems to me like we're seeing more of these than we've ever seen before, especially these ones where people drive up fire off a bunch of shots. You know, that eleven year old over in the West End was killed that way. They never have figured out who killed
that eleven year old. And this sort of thing just seems to be like prevalent, you know, Like you said, there's so many of these things that we hardly even you know, cover some of them anymore, because you know, if nobody gets hit or somebody just shot in the leg, you know, it's like, yeah, that's just another one. But a lot of times we'll get the audio recording of these things and you'll hear sounds like a machine gun. It's like, you know, you'll hear these things going
off. So so these people have access to some pretty high powered weaponry stuff that's not legal already. You know, you'll you'll because you can hear it. They're like machine guns and uh it's and they don't care. They don't care where they shoot. There's no uh concern for human life whatsoever. And the folks that are doing this, uh, a lot of these folks are
really young. They have no idea, no real concept, and you know, whatever kind of life they've had growing up has basically conditioned and have no no concern for or regard for anybody else. And they'll just fire randomly and and and and none of them can shoot, I mean none of them. I don't care, you know, nobody. Then they may have guns, but they don't know anything about guns, you know, They just they know how to turn it on and how to make it fire. They watch the
movies. They turn their gun sideways and they spray into a crowd of people, you know, because they've seen it. They think they think this looks cool, you know, and you know, and it's it's from the beginning. A lot of these folks are involved in this, you know, it's in the entire They grow up in a culture unlike anything that probably most of us can imagine. From the you know, time they're very young, they're they're they're talking to people. The people that they talk to are involved in
this sort of thing. They begin to you know, get enamored with this lifestyle and and when they do, that's what they aspire to. They aspire to be feared. They aspire to be you know, like what they consider their heroes, these guys that either went to jail or already got killed. And they have no concept really what they're doing, have no they have no
idea what the endgame is on it. They just they just like the hearing and now in the minute and this kind of you know, in their mind, they're getting some sort of you know, street cred or respect out of this, and that's what they shoot for. That's their goal. Like other kids want to be doctors or lawyers or you know whatever. Well, Brian Hemrick, what's needed is faith and family. Fathers formed family structures, and the great majority of those are victims. The great majority kind of know.
The answer is that we don't have family structure, we don't have faith anymore. The churches are empty, and fathers are not in the home, and government pays dads not to become involved with the mother, and they go from an event to event, and until family structure is rebuilt, until there's a
sense of faith, this will continue. You can try the swimming pools and the midnight basketball, you can try the peace rallies and all that kind of stuff, but there's too many young men running around without family structure, without education. And one of the best things they have is lots of battle wounds. And we go into certain parts of our community, the number of shots you've taken in your body. You can point out the arm, the leg, the hip, am in good shape. Look at us. I got
this, I got that, And that's what's important. And there's not a sense of education, there's not a sense of a family structure, of a proper family structure, not a sense of faith. And until those issues are resolved, which may not be able to be resolved, all these other peace get togethers and Maingo and the rest of them are well intended. I watched
I think it was on Channel five last week. The head er doc at Children's Hospital, a very fine woman, said that we have to We're going to have five hundred people shot this year in the city of Cincinnati and between u See and Children's Hospital. It's terrible. And here it is the middle of June. And when Fiji says we're overwhelmed, we're tired. We run from event to event. We put up the tape, whether it's North College Hill or it's Avondale or Madisonville, put up the tape. We try to
interview witnesses who are overwhelmed. We're going to have twenty thousand shots fired this year in the city of Cincinnati, and we don't know who did it. And when you're make an arrest, you go down to juvenile Court and Judge Bloom releases them immediately and then puts it on the diversion docket and there's no reporting of the crime. And that's where we are. Secondly, you did a great report last week. I wanted to check with you this Monday afternoon
on this pervert trying to pick up kids. Explain what's going on there and parents should be aware what's happening. Oh that was Yeah, that was up North College Hill. So they got apparently some reports of a guy in a dark the DAN, trolling through the neighborhoods, and so they were on the lookout for this guy. I actually talked to one of the kids who saw
this guy. He pulled up to these kids. I'm guessing this kid must have been like twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old, and he had a couple of his buddies with him that were over there near the North College Hill Kroger, and the guy basically solicits them for sax kid, the twelve thirteen year old kids, and they took off, went into the Kroger and told the security guard, and then the security card reported it. And then I talked to the kid's mom and she was like, you know, like every
nightmare of every parent, are like, what is going on? Because you don't know. I mean, this guy's saying something is one thing that you don't want to happen, But you don't know what this guy has in his
mind or what he might do next, what's his next step. Because a lot of these kind of folks that had these kind of strange, you know, notions about the world that might just be the first step, or you know, it tends to escalate and you know, it's not too far away from having an abduction, and then you know it goes from from this to a you know, even more serious. So the North Talley Kill police last year, we talked to them, Uh, they were working on it.
They said they were close to having maybe some sort of an announcement on it. But that was last Friday. Uh, there still hasn't been any new development on it as of this morning. Last I checked, Uh, there was no new development on it. So but I got a sense that they might be getting some information. Uh. I know that at least some of the witnesses were coming forward, those kids were telling them what they what they
knew about it. And and again, like we talked about any other situations, when when people will you know, stand step up and say, hey, look, I'm not going to stand for this, this is what's going on. Uh. And this family I talked to, you know, they were among that group. It's like, we're going straight to police. We're not going to have this this guy, you know, running around in our
neighborhood. And that's that's part of the solution to fix in it. Yeah, part of the solution is in the North College Joe case, the community. Once this guy arrested in Madisonville or Avondale or Evanston or the west End, there's many sense well when that kid has gunned down, and with the West End it's like, well, you know, you know, you know, snitches get stitches. But this is the kind of an offense where North College Show is going to come up and say, we can't put up with
this. But Brian Hammrick, we got to run. Thanks for coming on. Crime is up, but reporting a crime and arrest are down. Those are the facts, and many people don't want to hear that, but that's the way it is. When the chief of police says we're tiring, well, we run from event to event. We need more cops, more jails and judges to lock people up. Brian Hammrick, once again, congratulations on the Rolling Stones and Mick Jagger and it's fabulous and once again, thank you
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Brian, thank you very much. Well, Bet yeah, you know, Mick Jagger, by the way, is married to a woman named Hammrick, so it's it's kind of I think it's in the family. Are you related to mix something? Maybe we got to be related or all related. All the heads. I think he's got about fifteen or twenty kids, he's got numerous models, and I assume his new wife's about thirty years old or something, but probably about thirty. Yeah,
yeah, the runway model. I have the same problem he's got, so I understand. But Brian Hamrick, thank you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Give my best. All the folks at five. Thanks again, Miss cunning Out, Thank you, Brian. Let's continue with more. It's one thing if you're a pervert, okay, we'll turn you out. But if you're simply a shooter at a Peace Park and Bramble and Madisonville, well we have to be careful. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WULW