Bill Cunningham to great Americans. Coming up later today will be the Reds and Astronomicals alive from Houston. And many had said Tony Fenders seven repeatedly, this is a preview of the World Series in October and maybe November between the Reds and the Astros. That's a different story, John, and you and I now is the representative State Rep. Cindey Abrams of the West side of Hambleton
County. She's chair of the Criminal Justice Committee. More and she had something press release issued a couple of days ago, and what she wants to declare July first to be Taylor Swift Day and so much more. And Representative Cindey Abrams, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show and Sydney, since this is more or less Father's Day week. And do you have some stories, some
vignette about your dad. Understand from from media types that he may have died at a rather younger age, but nonetheless, what is stories that you recall about your own dad? Well, thank you for having me on the show today. Of course you know my dad he did die young. He died when he was fifty two. But I'll tell you he taught me so much.
We had a lot of fun together. We shot handguns in competition all around the tri State when I was starting at what seventeen years old, and he was a proud Union pipe fitter, and again, you know, taught me to save my money and don't spend more than your make and all that good stuff that uh. You know, I am who I am today truly
because of my father and mother. But Father's Day weekend, you know, definitely shout out to all of our dads who play such an important role in the kids' lives and Cindy Abrahams. It is not common, may I say, for a father to take his teenage daughter to shoot guns. I think that's wonderful because there's his seriousness to that activity that otherwise would not be present.
So when you relate a story about shooting guns with your father and the strength that he give you, any political philosophies, liberal conservatism, about faith and family, what else did he place inside you? Well, of course all of that. I mean he you know, he was a devout Catholic, very strict. I have a funny story. When I came home. I was working as a police officer down here for the city of Cincinnati, came home to visit one weekend and he literally said, hope you brought your
church clothes because we're going to nine o'clock Mass. Okay, Dad, Yes, sure I did. And how old were you at that point? I was twenty five twenty five? And he said, Sydney, hopefully you brought your church clothes. We're going to Mass. And you said, and you said, yes, daddy, that's what we'll do. Yes, there we are nine o'clock, nine o'clock Mass. And now, after being a cop
and a state representative, you chair the Criminal Justice Committee. And we had this terrible incident yesterday in Claremont County in which seemingly a father a news conference has been held. It has to be a mental case of one type or another literally kills in his freight yard at three to five and seven year old. And you know, to me, this is a demonstration of monstrous evil. It had to be a mental case of one type or another. No
one reasonably can do such things. And as chair of the Criminal Justice Committee, there's a movement of foot which is ongoing to disregard the death penalty. I think his bond is something like fifty million dollars cash only or sixty million cash only. Unlike Hamilton County, He's not getting out anytime soon. Does this provide justification for the death penalty or not? Well, you know, first of all, what a heartbreaking story, so devastated for the family.
And yes, I mean it does sound like something terrible happened, you know, in this country, I think we need to continue to focus on and know the State of Ohio heavily focuses on and funds, you know, mental health at all ages. Quite frankly, it's important to talk about it. If you're struggling with something, if you're having, of course suicidal or homicidal thoughts, you need to talk about it and tell somebody and get the help that you actually need. But going to this case, you know, look,
I have UM as a Catholic myself. Of course I last General Assembly there was a bill in the House to abolish the death penalty, and you know I did a lot of UM, a lot of interested party meetings, a lot of discussion. I mean I even talked to the you know, some nuns here locally in Hamilton County. And I will say that everything I've experienced as a police officer, the things that I've seen, you know, I truly believe the death penalty has a place in Ohio. Um as you
know, it is not used um Willie milly so to speak. It is used for the most serious, um you know, hainous crimes. That again, this example of shooting your innocent children ridiculous. So again I believe there's a place for it, you know, in Ohio. And as far as lowering the voting at age, one of the presidential candidates sh Mswami once the
increase the voting age to twenty five, that may be somewhat controversial. Boys and men generally don't become adults, so the age of twenty five to thirty mentally, as far as your idea, many have had it to lower the ability to become a police officer, and you were one for a long time with Cincinnati from twenty one to eighteen years old. I think what's driving that
is the fact that recruit classes are way down. That I saw hit on Sergeant Dan Hills about a week ago when they would announce there was a recruit class for CPD. In one case there was six thousand possible recruits showed up. Six thousand of the Duke Energy center to begin the process to take the test for fifty positions. Six thousands show up. And now it's not that they're advocating advertising. Now it's completely different. So some will intended persons say,
well, let's lower the age from twenty one to eighteen. Where does Cindy him stand on that? You know, Dan Hills is right. When I took the test back in nineteen ninety six, I will say that there were, yes, he's right, six thousand people there, and you know they hired anywhere from fifty to eighty and you know he's right. They're struggling. This is not going to solve the problem of recruiting and retention of our
law enforcement. You know what will supporting them, supporting them funding things like they're training, funding things like you know, equipment, different things like that. Cadet programs. You want to get eighteen year old eighteen or twenty year olds in the door and you know, really teach them how to be police officers and keep them long term, have a cadet program. I'm all for
that, But let me tell you something. What I heard in committee is this, Well, we let our eighteen year olds go into war and serve in our military. Okay, you're right, we do. And my husband served in the Army, the first Infantry, and a lot of his friends also did. And I talked to a lot of our former and current military members. It's that are currently police officers. Listen, it's not the same
in the military. You're under constant supervision. Guess what. Once you go through the police academy, and I'm speaking here in Cincinnati, of course, are very lengthy thorough police academy, then you're out with your field training officer, you're FTO, you know, on two different shifts, and then you're released on your own. Guess what. You're by yourself. There's no sergeant showing up to every run, or lieutenant or captain or chief showing up and
saying, okay, this is what you need to do now. No, you're making life or death decisions in the blink of an eye by yourself. You're learning to de escalate and everything else by yourself. And you're right. I mean, look, twenty one, I think is the proper age. If you want to get police officers in the door and train them and keep them in all of that long term, it's a cadet program. I'd be happy to help. You know, look at funding that. But I'm a
hard no, I'm lowering the age here in Ohio. And Representative Sydney Abrams your chair of the Criminal Criminal Law Injustice Committee in the House of Representative. So if you say no, it's not going to happen, well, it's not in my committee. It's a Homeland Security committee. I am just one vote on that committee. So so at this point it may go through because
of the need to get more people. I can't imagine a nineteen year old running on a dark alley at four o'clock in the morning, especially a mail making a life and death decision. What happens all the time. If you put me in charge, I make twenty one the magical age for everything. You can't do a damn thing to your twenty or twenty one years old. And then there's no confusion about carrying a military style rifle and some battlefield in
a rock when you're nineteen or twenty. I think that's different than being a police officer. So we'll see what happens there. And lastly, let's talk about the reason I brought you on. You want July first to be a special day for Taylor Swift, can you explain you're thinking in that guard? Well, you know, I'll tell you some folks have said, you know, don't they have anything better to do in Columbus than this? What a
bunch of nonsense. And what I have to say to that is this, you know what, we discuss and deliberate and vote on various very serious things. And you know what, our budget is an example of that. Um it affects every Ohio and and you know what, every once in a while allowed to have a little fun. So this Taylor Swift day. Of course, she's coming to our great city here in Cincinnati. And let's face it, this is going to be a tremendous impact on our city here and our
state. I mean, it's it's reported that she brings five billion dollars in economic impact. A two day, two day concert and music unites people. This is bipartisan, it's fun and so that's why we got Isaacson and myself are doing this. Are you a swifty goes? I know Tony Benner. Tony Benner's an older white male, he tells me he's a swifty There's all kinds of swifties out there, I'm telling you, And yes, I mean
young old in between, and yes, I will say. The inquirer asked me, okay, what's your favorite song, and I would say it's blank space. So there you go. It's hard to narrow it down to just one, but you know everyone's going to be talking about their favorite song and whatnot, and so we shall see life first Taylor Swift day here in Ohio.
All right, Representative Sindy Abrons, thank you very much. And for those of us that don't have fathers around, he'll be locked inside your heart for eternity and the attributes and the skills and the qualities of life that he gave you. Cindy Abrons, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show with your permission. Will do it again. Thank you, Representative, thank you, thank you for having me. All right, let's
continue. Tony Fenders as swifty as you can now hear. It's going nuts just thinking about her coming to town. He spent like ten thousand dollars for two front row seats or one of my old girlfriends, Taylor Swift at the music, Tony, No, you can't make him stay, but this song was about me. I understand. It's either me or John Mayer one of the other hit it oo oo oo oo oo oo. I'm a player, the haters and the players read Spaceball Tonight, Dwayne Allen Root coming up later
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