6-15-23 Bill Cunningham Show

American Welcome to florious Thursday afternoon in the Tri States Red Spaceball off. Tonight they're resting in Houston quietly getting steak and barbecue. But Tomorrow, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday they get after the Reds are a game and a half out of first place, thirty four and thirty five that could come back clearly

in first place. This could be, according to Tony Bender, a preview of the twenty twenty three World Series between the defending champs Houston Astros and the Reds who are up and coming, and I can anticipate that maybe around the end of July, the Red Legs now are going to pick up a stud starting pitcher to add to their rotation to take down the Houston Astros and the twenty twenty three World Series as I predicted back at the Holy Grail at the

end of March. But until then, a terrible story arose about a Mason family, Tim Thompson and Karen Thompson and Tessa Thompson, who were murdered by Abbie Michaels and I seventy five and good friend of mine Denny from Dayton, sent me a Google map of the gyration that Abbe Michaels had to go through

in order to go the wrong way on ICE seventy five. All of us who travel on an expressway, which is basically almost every American, has somewhere in the back of their mind a car coming at the high rate of speed, headlights are aiming for you, and the fear that has I still have that sense in my mind that when I'm at night, I'm on seventy one or seventy five, and I'm wondering what would I do if a car's coming at me at seventy miles an hour, and it's just a frightening picture.

So Abe Michaels, who was clearly drunk, was going the wrong way on I seventy five in southern Montgomery County near Dayton, and she just purposely murdered

Tim Thompson, Karen Thompson, and Tessa Thompson. And the judge in this case, Stephen Dankoff, DA n KOF of Montgomery County Common Police Court, found her not guilty on all charges, despite the fact that her a strange husband received a message from her that she was about to kill herself on I seventy five, and one of the clarest cases of a violation of a judge's

oath occurred with this judge. Well, the family's outraged and they've asked that Jim Kellerher, who's spent many many years as a police officer and now is doing law enforcement in a different context, to come on the air with us this Thursday afternoon to talk about it and Jim Kellerher once again, welcome to the Pil Cunningham Show. And first of all, tell us about the Thompson

family that were killed from from Mason, Ohio. And understand you you had been friends or whatever with Karen at the time, and can you explain the Thompson family and how they were situated back on Saint Patrick's Day night in twenty nineteen. Yes, sir, thanks for having me on to get a chance to voice this to the listeners. I knew Karen back in Great School up in a small town called Mommy, Ohio. We attended school together for eight

years. She was a close friend and classmate and we can't fooled all those years together too, So I knew her. And then after high school, or actually after Great School, people went their different ways. I went to a different high school than her, and then I became familiar with the story on Saint Patrick's Day twenty nineteen. It came to my attention not too long thereafter that Karen Thompson was actually Karen Sampson, and that's for me hit close

to home. So I at that time had reached out to the family knowing that they lived far up north and and then took the opportunity to represent them. And at all the hearings that Miss Michael's defense attorneys and her attended, I did that on behalf of the family. And so in a sense you want to relate with the family is feeling and as far as the facts of the case, you actually he attended in the courtroom because as a former law

enforcement official, you wanted to see a play out. From my criminal defense days, I always wanted to have a guilty client appear in front of a judge like Stephen Dancoff because I figure representing my client likely to get a better case. Describe the atmosphere in the courtroom for this trial. The judge found abbe Michael's not guilty and freighter of all charges. Explained the atmosphere in the

courtroom. Well, Willie, I gotta take you back in time. I got to take you back several years ago, early on when I was involved in this. One of the former prosecutors called me then as he would regularly to update me, and he told me some shocking news. He said that the defendant, Abbe Michael's father had passed away and that the judge granted her

an opportunity with deputies to attend the father's funeral. And I'm like shocked when the attorneys or the prosecutors telling me this, I'm like, what other defendant have you ever known gotten that kind of an opportunity. She's being held on three murder who actually was six murder charges in total, but for killing three people, one of which was a ten year old. So I knew right

then that was an early red flag for me of concern. So moving into the actual first day, which was Monday last week for the trial, when I walked in as a former law enforcement officer, I was stunned with what I saw hanging on the judge's wall. It was a New Yorker magazine cover photo of George Floyd. And you know, for me, I knew right

then we're the head too. Because everyone can recall the rioting and the looting that went on after the Floyd situation, including officers that were injured and some even killed in the line of duty. That whole event was the genesis really for the destruction of law enforcement in our country. So right then, for that moment for me, that was strike two and strike three, I thought,

that's unbelievable. Then I come to find out that there's a standing court order that if it's a jury trial, that he has to take that picture down. So I was in the courtroom for all four days and I heard, you know, all of the witness testimony. This verdict absolutely makes no sense. It's one thing if the judge doesn't want to trust in the testimony of Kyle Pastorrelli, her husband at the time, But you cannot diminish that

text message. And I'll quote it for you. As she's driving, having been rejected by him to come over, she's texting him saying, I quote goodbye, I love you. I'm dying now. And the listeners need to know that as she's doing that texting, she is driving, and she's telegraphed what's about to happen. And it's only Willie. It's only two minutes in thirty five seconds later that she's passing. One of the witnesses testified the white

car came off his left side on the berm. It passed him, and he thought he was going about seventy It got up to that one opening right there on seventy five where the state troopers sit. She makes that left hand turn, she makes that right hand turn, and she starts off Willie in the innermost lane. The steering wheel data from the event data recorder shows the

turning movements to degrees. She gets into the center lane, and what's most shocking is about a second to a second and a half before impact, she's got that gas pedal all the way down to the floor. And that's two minutes thirty five seconds after she sent that text message. Again, she says goodbye, I love you. I'm dying now, and at that moment, the Thompson family is obliterated off the planet, and this is where we are today. Tessa was a fourth grader at Saint Susanna's School, and Mason,

her mother, was a beloved instructor for Cincinnati Public Schools. Tim Thompson was a great American living his life and my good friend and yours has sent me Denny from Dayton Google Earth. In order to make that move into that area where the highway patrol sits to go the wrong way, she had to be cognizant of many issues. The judge seemed to indicate she might have been in

some diabetic strokes, She might have had some seizure. You can't be in a seizure when you operate a motor vehicle well through obstacles and defined exactly your course as a former police officer. Could someone be zoned out? Could someone be in a diabetic or a seizure condition an operate a vehicle in that fashion? Willie, I have to tell you this took four years to get to

the trial and what's so shocking in the public needs to know this. This defense team called one witness, one witness only, and it was a psychiatrist, Willie, and this psychiatrist who only started treating Abbe Michaels at the hospital after she was able to start being treated postcrash, said it was her opinion based on years and years ago of Abby having what's called a psychogenetic non epileptic

seizure that Abby had that leading up to that crash. In fact, Willie this psychiatrist went as hard to say that post crash, potentially out on the ground with a clenched jaw, it was her opinion that she may have had an epileptic seizure, an opinion. I have an opinion. I have an

opinion. She has an opinion. She has an opinion. And all that's two minutes and thirty later from a psychiatrist who ended up Willie having to admit that there could have been suicidal ideologies and play leading up to that crash. She admitted that. And and Willie, I just gotta tell you, I

want the public to know that. When she was done testifying, and and she was getting ready to leave, Judge Dankoff in that court, in almost an arrogant fashion, said through this psychology to the psychologist, doctor Wade, tell your husband, I said hi. And then you're sitting there, Yeah, he said, tell your husband, I said hi. And when and when he says that to her, so many things had gone on that week. All he did the whole week was admonish right out in open court in

an embarrassing fashion. Prosecutor and grahamsa who was who was doing amazing for what she was allowed to do. At one point, Judge Dankoff, with all the objections from the defense, he always would turn on this white noise, so we could not hear any sidebar discussions. At one point, Prosecutor grahams and made him so mad he took his glasses off and slammed them down, ordered us out into the hallway, and whatever questioning she was doing, he

wasn't having it. So the whole four days, it was so evident to us that Judge Dankoff was clearly clearly favoring her. It's almost as though his mind, his verdict was already made up. It was just so evident with all his behavior. Well, many times, says a criminal defense attorney, you waive a jury. In this case, Abbe Michael's defense team waived a jury. They wanted to try to the court and to me or the Thompson

family, the elements that are left because Abbey Michael's obliterated. What impact on the rest of the family that survived the verdicts has had on them? This is this is crushing. I mean, the verdict's not going to get changed, and Tim and Karen in ten year old Tessa are not going to walk this earth again. And what's so appalling to the family and to the friends, and I'm sure all your listeners that have followed this is how does somebody

murder kill three human beings when they had been drinking? She executed those moves who's on the highway having telegraphed at seeing goodbye, I love you, I'm dying now that's intent. Yes, And then it takes four years to get her to a trial one defense witness, and she walks off scott free while Kim, Karen and Tessa are buried and will never return to the earth.

It has been so crushing on her family, on her friends, and I'm sure all your listeners that have followed this just cannot understand how this judge came to this decision. Well, you know, who sits on the bench is

an important issue we've here in Hambleton County. We've had two or three recent cases in which a murderers have been set free by liberal judges who wanted to find a reason to do it. And in this case, Judge Stephen Dankoff had to be rather gymnastic order to find defended Abbe Michaels not guilty yet to be gymnastic in his viewpoint denying any credibility to state witnesses and accepting the opinion of one defense witness who was not present and simply read some pieces of paper

and announced she was probably in some epileptic condition without Evan's to indicate. It's amazing that Abbe Michaels lived during the crash. It's amazing she spent quite a bit time in the hospital. And part of this was that the police did not properly refrigerate the blood supply. But even if they had, if this judge had wanted to find her not guilty, he could have done that anyway.

Correct. And Willie, I want you to know that when the state rested its case, we went down to Victim's Services to await the prosecution, the prosecutors to tell us what was next. They ended up coming in the room and they told us they thought this verdict from Dankoff, which was going to be written by the way that was shocking to us, but that it was going to take one to two weeks. He had had a previous trial the week before and they were awaiting that decision, and so they thought this

would take one to two weeks. I want your listeners to know, Willie, that when we left the family and friends to go outside. We were thinking one to two weeks, it's going to be written, like what's up with that? News media started to inform us that the judge had just told them that he was going to render his verdict the next morning, and so

he said to them, I'm going to render my verdict tomorrow. The families have been through enough, and so even the prosecutors up in Victim Services did not know that, and so that's how we learned the verdict would be written and said. And then now we kind of know what he meant. The victim's family has been through enough. I think he was meaning the Michael's family,

not the Thompson family and the friends. So it's it's really disgusting to us because we also learned that before the verdict was released to the public, that Abby Michaels had already been released from the Montgomery County jail and she went off on her way, no accountability, and that's how this family was treated. Willie during this entire situation, Jim callaher, I'll say this that the judge didn't have the guts to convene court, get everyone there and read his

verdict. If you try to the bench. It's possible for the judge to put his verdict on a piece of paper, hand to the bailiff, file this in the clerk's office, and that's the verdict. So at no point did the judge Stephen Dankoff have the guts to look in the eyes of the rest of the family of the Thompsons and an issue his verdict. He did it like a coward, which is to put on a piece of paper, give it to the constable, take it to the clerk's office, and file

it. That's it. And Willie, you took the words of all of our he is a coward. And I do I believe, and I know the family feels the same way the citizens of Montgomery County. Everybody deserves way better than this. And I just want to say, if you live in Montgomery County and I loved one of yours becomes a victim in Montgomery, Montgomery County, I pray you never have to attend a trial and Judge Dankoff's third

four courtroom. And if they feel strongly about it, Willie, knowing some extra behind the scenes information I was able to convey, you know, they should write Judge Stephen Dankoff and tell them how they feel. He is a sorry excuse for a judge. And this is just in my lifetime. Willie, this is one of the biggest miscarriages of justice I've ever seen. Jim

callaher a friend and spokesman for the family. Thank you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and all for nothing but the best of the Thompson parts of the Thompson family that remains. And Jim, thank you very Willie. All right, let's continue, Willie. I'll tell the family and friends thank you sir for your time. God bless you. Let's continue with the more your reaction. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand. Bill Cunningham in his radio seven hundred ww men, summer is

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Also remains a minority owner of the Reds, and he's switching horses to go from the Reds Skyline Chili. Many consider that an upgrade, but the Reds are pretty damn good right now. Scotline Chili might be better. That's after two of five today. Dick Williams will be here after one o'clock today as professor Scott Gerber of Ohio Northern University. It's going to be able to talk about his possible dismissal from Ohio Northern University because of his diverse viewpoint.

He wrote a column for The Hill, which is a Washington, DC website kind of supporting Clarence Thomas and Professor Scott Gerber has been smeared and crucified by the officials of Ohio Northern University. And of course that's a small town about seventy miles south of Toledo eight, Ohio, in which they're hoping the media won't pay attention. But whenever a good law professor is taken down because of

diverse few points, I want the word to get out. This story will remain in the front of my mind for a long time in honor of Professor Ron Right, who was one of my great professor, professor civil procedure at University of Toledo. He was a collectic, he was a good guy.

He was different, but he was a great law school professor. And whether you have a high school teacher or a college professor or law school professor, people like Scott Gerber, selected by students as the professor of the Year well published, was fired by Ohio Northern and the idiotic actions of the dean and the president because of conservatism. Now, secondly, that's after one o'clock today.

I look at the front page of the website of the Inquirer and as I look at if they have a big photo of Lamon Hunter pleads guilty to involuntary manslaughter and the twenty six death of a three year old boy temporarily in his care. And there is Laman Hunter who was convicted of murdering three year old trust in Blue, and his conviction was vacated earlier this year, and

everyone's happy. He pleads guilty to a sentence in which the judge Christian Jenkins freeze Lamon Hunter today, So what I did, who we elected the bench matters. You see it in the case of Judge Stephen dan Coff of Montgomery County Liberal, very liberal. It doesn't want to convict people. So I had the temerity to pull up the story of Lamon Hunter that was penned by

Sharon Coolidge of The Inquirer back in twenty seven. I'm going to read the first few sentences of the sentences of the story, and I want you to know that you're here are going to hear adult matter. But this is written in The Inquirer by Sharon Coolidge in twenty seven. In his short life, trust in Blue suffered a list of injuries that reached like a passage from a child abuse textbook on the worst cases. He had broken bones, three year old toddler, broken finger, a broken foot, and a broken leg.

He had head injuries, a bleeding ear, brain damage, sexual abuse, a bleeding penis, and a torn anus. Six days after he was beaten for the last time, three year old boy's body was placed in a tawny casket on a cold, clear January morning, carried into the Vine Street Cemetery

and buried in the hard winter earth. Trusting little three year old boy murdered by Lamont Hunter is one of seven children since twenty o three that have died after the Hamilton County Department of Job and Family Services was charged with either protecting them or ignoring child abuse complaints. An inquiry review of more than one thousand, six hundred ages of Truston's caseworker, medical and court records gives rare insight

into social services supposedly to keep kids safe. Yet in this instance, key adults and professionals might have helped Truston, but all failed him. His mother left him with a boyfriend, Lamon Hunter, she knew terrified the little three year old. His social worker failed to tell judges, prosecutors about threats to his safety. Police detectives and Cincinnati investigated Truston's broken bones and injuries to his penis, but closed the case after ten months, saying they couldn't prove it.

Ultimately, police say the boy was killed by Lamon Hunter, the boyfriend of Truston's mother. He's in jail, Charles aggravated murder, rape, flowing sassaut, etc. Prosecutors say they want the death penalty. Relatives a little tit. He was so afraid of Hunter he'd wet himself when the man was around. Quote. He felt terrified, felt horrible, fear, helpless and

beaten. He was basically abused his entire life of three years. This physical abuse was conducted by Lamont, but the system abused him also because they kept Lamont in the custody of their mother and the boyfriend did it. So And when I look at this story, how happy everybody is. Lamont Hunter, after seventeen years in prison, is filled with joy that he's now free.

The plea deal is consistent. One Hunter has always said what led to the death of the boy, which was while doing the laundry in the basement, he said a little trust and fell down the steps. But there were years

of abuse documented by the physicians previous to his murder. Who's on the bench Matters talked to the family of Tim Thompson, Karen Sampson Thompson and little Tessa Thompson, killed by Ebby Michaels on St. Patrick's Day night in twenty nineteen, and then Judge Stephen Dankoff said, basically, well, she could have been in some seizure condition. One does not operate a motor vehicle in that

fashion while shaking uncontrollably, you would think. But if you want to be gymnastic and find a reason to free a murderer, you can do it as a judge wave the jury tried to the court, he didn't have the guts to announce his verdict an open court in front of the rest of the Thompson family that remains, had to do it in a piece of paper that was

given to the clerk's office. Same way about a year ago, Elwood Jones, who murdered a woman and the Blue Ash Motel Judge Wen you Cross, having not enough time to handle five to six hundred one hundred other cases, presently went back some thirty years and found an excuse or a reason the free Elwood Jones, who murdered Nathan, who murdered Rhoda Nathan. And now you have another judge, another liberal judge, freeing Lamont Hunter. And you heard

the description of Sharon Coolig's article from twenty seven. At the time, all of those injuries could not have been imposed upon that little toddler by simply tumbling down the steps could not have happened. So now the prosecutors are in a position they can't retry the case. The witnesses are gone. Like to Elwood Jones, they can't retry the case. Mark Petemeyer, who was the trial prosecutor at the time, is still there, but the witnesses are gone.

So when liberal judges take the bench, they go there with an attitude of not just freeing present criminal defendants, as Judge Stephen Dankoff did, but to go back fifteen twenty thirty years and look at cases determined by juries decades ago and see how the jury failed and that I'm gonna order a new trial, which they know cannot be retried because of the passage of time. A lot of the evidence is lost and the witnesses are gone. So who you put

on the bench matters. And when I heard Jim callaher talk about Montgomery County Justice Stephen Dankoff. By the way, this is not a racial None of these issues are racial. In fact, in Lamon Hunter's case, he's fifty four years old and he spent about sixteen years in jail, and the victim, Little Trusting Little Trust in Blue, was black, and so's Lamont Hunter.

I don't think race is an issue. The so called mother black, and in the case with Abbie Michaels and the Thompson family, they're all white. More than ninety percent of the time. You can you murder within your own race. So this isn't a racial issue. But when a judge has on his wall a big photo of what happened in Minnesota, it's unbelievable. It is really unbelievable that we elect who have a political attitude about soft approaches

to criminal justice. Outrageous. You heard the injuries inflicted upon Little Trust in Blue by this murderer, and to have a large picture George Floyd in your courtroom sends the messages to what kind of justice will take place in your courtroom. George Floyd was murdered by that police officer, but George Floyd was a convicted drug dealer, frequently beat up women, armed robber who his body was filled with fentonel and heroin and marijuana, and O'Kane when he was killed by

that police officer. Pretty sad stuff. So who's on the bench, man, It matters. And I hope that when we vote, we simply don't vote down the ballot and say, Okay, this is an R that's a d Spend some time on who you're keeping on the bench and who you're taking off the bench. So let's continue with more. And after one o'clock today will be Professor Scott Gerber of Ohio Northern University, and there's been more developments

in his case. And those in rural counties around Cincinnati will tell you that many times, if you're the local sheriff, of local prosecutor local police chief, there's no scrutiny of what's happening in Georgetown, Ohio because there's no media there. The inquiry uncover it, We don't cover it mainly five nine, twelve nineteen is too hard to go cover it. So when you're in Aida, Ohio, I'm not sure. Is that Allen County? I'm not sure,

But you're not in the media market. So when you're not in a media market, you can kind of assume that there will be no media coverage or whatever you do. So when Professor Scott Gerber, more than twenty years a ten yeared law professor, writes a supportive piece about Clarence Thomas that's published in The Hill, and the story gets to the Wall Street Journal, you're surprised and shocked that you can't fire someone because they're a moderate to a conservative

libertarian who's teaching constitutional law. You can do whatever you want. No one's going to cover it. I think those in eight to Ohio are shocked that some are taken up the banner and are concerned about the conduct of President Melissa Bauman, who's the president of Ohio Northern, and also the dean and others that are concerned about treatment of our law schools. So let's continue the line

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coming back for another few weeks, they can win. They can win without their best players, supposedly, and even the great Dela Cruz at this point has gone goose egg the last three games. But nonetheless, you may recall a couple of weeks back and we had the story of Professor Scott Gerber. Scott Gerber, who was at Ohio Northern University College of Law for some twenty two twenty three years, received about every award that the law school could give

him. Very well respected law school professor who was perp walked out of his own classroom by university security personnel because he wasn't thinking right about diversity and d EI and Professor Scott Gerber welcome again in the Bill Cunningham Show and Professor, for those who meant not have been listening a couple of weeks ago, can you tell the American people the circumstances that brought you to radio This Thursday afternoon

on April fourteenth, I was teaching my constitutional law class, and just as my class was in ding, just before one o'clock, multiple campus security officers came into the room in front of my students. Came to the front of the room at the electron where I was, and whispered into my ear something to the effect of your respected member of the campus community, please follow us

quietly to the dean's office. And then at the door waiting for me were armed town police and then they all they all of them, the group of them led me to the dean's sweet where the dean. They then took me into the dean's office where he handed me a piece of paper and said I had one week to either resign or he would institute the ten year revocation process. And so that's basically what got all this started at this moment. And

when they're whispering your ear, you're a respective member of the community. Follow us, did you what did you think? Was it like an active shooter in your mind? Was family member had died? What did you think? Well, I was confused when they did it. I was frightened. I looked up and the students looked frightened, and of course I was humiliated by it. But you mentioned the active shooter scenario. In fact, the campus newspaper, a student who wrote an article about it, characterized it as it

seemed like the school was on lockdown because of some active shooter. So that's how ridiculous. This overkill what the armtown police was, So the number of armed guards would have been three, four or five, and you're walking to the dean's office. You got to be thinking, oh my gosh, what's going on? And so what precipitated this? Because I know what it is, but many may not know. At this point, you had been there some more than twenty years. You're well published. I've read some of your

work in the passes an attorney. The Wall Street journals are rated on this. In your mind, what were you told was the reason you were perple walked down to your own classroom. Well, the dean put on the piece of paper that it was collegiality I either insufficient collegiality, but of course that's not even listed in the faculty handbook obviously as the grounds for terminating a professor.

But the timing of it was that, you know, earlier that week I had written an op ed in The Hill saying that Justice Clarence Thomas was allowed to have friends, including a rich friend like Carlan Crowe. And then the week before that I had done a TV interview, you know, criticizing these d EI programs for drifting into illegality. And the week before that I had published two op eds, one in Your Cincinnati Enquiring one in the Washington

Examiner making the same point. Earlier in the semester, I had pushed back against the fact that our DI program included point diversity, and the president herself said that they would not include viewpoint of diversity, when that's the most important

type of diversity you need in a college, in a university setting. And you know, I had objected to illegal hiring practices in the past in the law school and things like that, and so they just want to violate the law and get away with it. And as far as Clarence Thomas and Harlan Crowe, This is of course a national issue, and I've driven through Ada,

I've driven through High University, the county. But for those listening around the country, this is a small rural county, a little bit south of Toledo, and the most popular thing you see in that area are cornfields, and so one would not anticipate this isn't exactly Stanford College of Law or NYU or Michigan College of Law in which the so called best and the brightest might go there, because I wont University of Toledo and I got a great legal

education the University of Toledo up the road from o NU. So how would you describe to the American people listening around the country the quality and character of those living around Aida, Ohio. We're not talking about a hotbed of of a left wing politics, correct. Yeah, the community it's it's it's Trump

country where I'm at. But the university, not surprised, is on the left, you know, far left, and you know, uh and I love working with my students and all of that, but clearly I'm not allowed to oppose what I view as illegal hiring practices that d EI has has led to. And speaking of how small and will and O and U are. I think that is, and someone's actually told me this that because it's so small and isolated, the administration thanks, no one will care what happens there,

For example, what happens to me. No one will cares if I was at Ohio State, which is an urban, massive university, or if I was at Toledo, where you went to law school. It's more urban and larger, and it would get attention. So I think the administration is frankly shocked that this has gotten so much attention nationally. You mentioned the Wall Street Journal. I've been on your great show now twice. Michelle Tafoya, her interview with me a couple of weeks ago has the most used by far

of anything on her show. On their podcast series, there was an article this week and Just the News where they had yet another development where they published a quote from a recently graduated law student where the dean of the law school accused him of cheating on a paper that he had written for a class from me that won a national award, a national award which got him five thousand dollars and the university five thousand dollars, simply because the law student had contributed

the twenty dollars to the Scott Gurgler legal fund go fund me page. Think about think about that? So sorry to harm, explained a student. Yeah, a student receives an award and it references you, and the university comes after him with hooks and claws. Yeah. It was the dean of the law schools necessarily. Yeah, the dean, the guy that had me, that summoned armed police to banish me from the campus. A complaint was filed

with the president of the university, Melissa Bowman. She claims that she's sent it over to HR to investigate it. The student apparently had been has been interviewed, you know, yesterday by HR. But it's clear to me that they're just going to try to cover it up and trivialize it and all of that because one thing that they don't do it oh when you was hold administrator's

accountable. And one other new development, even though the dean used the police to do this to me, even though the dean retaliated and accused the student of cheating, and even though the dean has a documented history of making bigoted comments about people they recently reumped them for another five years. That sends a

message is to the outcome of your case. Isn't it ironic that you're teaching a constitutional law class about procedural and substantive due process and the dean of the law school to O and u IO Northern ignores your own desk perp walked you out of your own classroom and then puts a document quickly in front of you saying, signed this, We'll give you like fifty thousand dollars to shut up.

Isn't that ironic? Yeah, it's even worse than that bill, because you know, Peter Would the president of the National Association of Scholars, and he's a major figure in higher education. He's written two public letters to Owen US President condemning how I've been treated. And so she finally finally had her

PR, her PR officer. She didn't do her herself, but finally had her P officer right to Peter Wood and actually claim that they're following all kinds of due process, which of course is not true, because the American Association of University Professors has already written them twice condemning how they're handering this procedurally. And the American Association of University Professors he's on the left. I'm not on

the left. But the violations of my due process are so egregious that they've written the university twice and told them to clean this up, and they just ignore it and then misstate what these other groups have actually said to them. Professor Scott Garber of Ohio Northern University College of Law, I guess formerly, hopefully in the future. Isn't the clear message being sent by a small law school and the state of Ohio. There's one way of looking at jurisprudence.

There's one way of looking at Clarence Thomas, there's one way of looking to DNI. And if you don't look our away, whether you're a student or a twenty three year tenured college law school professor, we will come after you and make your life miserable. Doesn't this have a chilling effect on any free

speech in the future? Absolutely, And speaking of precisely that, just last night, the leading authority on mobbing i e. Group Bulling and Higher Education posted an analysis of my situation at Ohio Northern University where he makes exactly those points, and he also sent it last night to the president of Ohio Northern

University, and he actually you know set there that listen. Unless you guys stop doing that this kind of stuff to people like Scott just because he doesn't think like you do, your universities is at risk of being shut down. What is mobbing? That's actually what he wrote, shut down? What is a group bullying? Because I think differently than my colleagues and the administration,

everyone's just trying to ruin me. You know, that's it. It's not just one bully on the playground, it's the whole system, that's what it is. So every law every law school is going to be yeah, go ahead, please, yeah, your listeners. Could you know if they google Kenneth West, who's w E S T h U E S, You'll get to a scientific web page and there'll be a link to my Uh that's the case study he just posted about me. And it's incredibly sophisticated because he's brilliant.

So they'll UNDERSTI. They'll be educated better than I can do on what mobbing is. So to be accredited by a law school, your law school must be accredited by these various academic groups in order to have your law degrees recognize and to set for the bar examine Ohio. You've got to be credited. Someone like Tony Benners can show up in Columbus and say I want to take the law school three day test to become a lawyer. You have to be accredited. You got to go to an accredited law school in order to

be able to sit for the bar to become an attorney. So in this case, if they take away the accreditation of Higher Northern University Law School, they're out of business. Yeah, but as you this won't surprise you either. Bill. You know, the ABA, who is our accrediting body, is on the left. The ABA wants this DEI stuff. But that said, I'm told that my situation is being brought to the attention of bodies like

that. I don't have the specifics, but I've been told that Professor Scott gerber here R the middle of June, I would assume law school was out, But I can recall taking some summer classes the University of Toledo just to keep it and make it easier in me in the fall. Is this issue tamped down in Ada, Ohio or is it still proliferating. Well, it's still getting h you know, national tension there. You know, I'm talking

to you, for example. That's not a minor thing. But you know, there was a newspaper story a couple of days ago I got reached out to by the Chronicle of Higher Education. A periodical called Just the News just published a bombshell article and that was the one where they outed the dean for accusing the student that won the first a first prize ten thousand dollars in a

national competition. He accused him of having me write the paper form, which is about as far from too true as me being better at than bron James at basketball. It's not even plausible. I read the paper, gave him an a on the paper because it was fantastic, and encouraged him to publish the paper in Our Law with You, which he did. And then it goes even beyond that, and he wons a national prize in Washington, DC. What do you want to see happen? I'm sure they're going to offer

you some shekels of one type or another to kind of go away. What do you want to see happen in this case? Well, um, as I think I mentioned before, I want I want to keep my job. I'm great at my job. I love working with my students. I love writing about ideas. I'm very good at it. You know. At one other point, I won the Teaching the Writing Prize this year and the Dean

withheld it from me. Think about that comment, because he certainly can't call in the police for a professor that just won the writing prize, you know that kind of stuff. So I'd also like a public apology from the president. I'd also like whoever orchestrated this to be held accountable for it. And you know that seems to me, you know, like it's the Dean, But Peter Wood actually thinks the President herself had to sign off on it.

And of course the President's not going to hold her self accountable for it, and so instead they're going to try to ruin my life and ruin my career up their own misdeeds. The President's Melissa Bowman, Is that correct? Yeah? B A U M A N M. Yes. Well, and lastly, we'll see what happens. I'm going to continue to follow this story to a logical conclusion. The lawsuit has not yet been filed. You want to work internally, as I understand it, and what is your a website?

If people want to help you with your legal defense fund. If you google Scott Gerber Legal Fund, it comes right up. It's a go fund Me page Scott Gerber Legal Fund. It'll come right up. I will continue to follow this to his logical conclusion. I will encourage my brothers and sisters and talk radio to do the same thing, because your fight today will be our fight tomorrow. Professor Scott Gerber, once again, thank you for coming on

the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Professor Well, thank you very much. Bill. I appreciate it. God bless America. Thank you. Let's continue with more news and Stooges are next. Plus later on we scheduled Dick Williams, the former general manager of your Cincinnati Reds, who's now picked up a new banter, which is believe it or not, the president and CEO of Skyline Chili all a news radio seven hundred WLW Electric Craftsman Electric dot Com.

But we're gonna wind, We're gonna help. We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Ocean. We have plans to build in in Angola, one of the largest solar plants in the world. I can go on, but I'm on. I'm going off script and I we're gonna get in trouble. Oh hello, hello client, I'm broadcasting all right segment. Williams of the Reds and Skyline Chili coming with us in

twenty five minutes. But we're gonna build a railroad from the Pacific Ocean to the Indian Ocean and then to Angola and then back to Alaska, then to ten Buck two and then maybe to Kualamala. We're gonna build a railroad everywhere. You know what I'm saying. Where's the Golden spike gonna go? Then right in the middle of forty miles south Hawaii is gonna be right? Okay, I say we have baseball royalty on tear today. We had Saint X

was here, that's right. And then we had we had the Mueller volleyball team and he kind of eleven champion eleven. He said, baseball had nine. It's eight. I said, that's impossible. I know football, what I figured football, I think about seven or eight. Oh well, anyway, but Tim Held is here. Yeah, he's kind of kind of like the David Bell of Muller. He brought two of his better players, Nayton CJ. So Tim Hell, tell me about Muller baseball. It was tough.

You were scheduled to lose the game. You had lost like one game all year. This was tough. You were ready to play. Give me the big moment in the last game of the year. Oh, the big moment um you know, I think, uh, scoring the couple runs there to kind of extend our lead from two to one to four to one, and um really made everybody relax. And probably the first inning Old CJ here got on base, forced the action. And then uh was it like Della

Cruz. Yeah, he was like Della Cruz. He was here number forty four. Uh, I prefer forty four, but he gave me number one. Good forty four like high school. That's like an Excel jersey. That wasn't gonna see. He looks strong, but he's not. He's not six foot five like Dollar Cruz. Yet. Yeah, if you keep seeing Ron's roost, he'll get up there. Do you feed these guys? They came in. They were like Hyena's scheduled at some willed beast. They descended on

Ron's roost. Oh, I mean anytime we've traveled, that's like it's eight meals a day as all. I feel like I'm scheduling for these guys. How to feed these boys? Yeah, now did you steal? Did you steal first? Or second? H? Third? You feel the third stealing third? And they threw it away and he came. He came trouncing in no score, first inning score runs huge. It's just the best smaller baseball team ever, goes, Let me on the spot. Yes, I am, yes, he said, yes you did. What did you say?

Yeah, well you agree what You were Cameron's assistant for like twenty years and now you're the head coach the last sixteen nexteen, so you're a lifer at Muller High School? Yes, yes, Why what is it about the Muller

especially baseball? He keeps you there? Oh? I mean the play I mean so special, like the you know, when I came in, I was twenty three years old, and just all the pieces there and the people there and the Carl Kramer's and Jeff Guyers and all those coaches, Coach Cameron and just all the parts that make you feel like you're part of a family is just huge. And then to be a part of this baseball program and take over after coach Cameron retired. How many state titles? Everyone now in

baseball? If any nine nine is that number two to a volleyball, that is number two to volleyball. Volleyball is the greatest sported Muller's correct. Yeah, age, no, Nate talking, you're the catcher of the team. You look something like Johnny Bench and his prime from Binger, Oklahoma, something like that. Well, what was happening in the last game? Were you calling the curveball? Because when I played at Deer Park, I had the express, I had Uncle Charlie, I had knuckles, and I had the

car hubble slip pitch, the slip pitch. Did you call the play the pitchers or did the picture call them? I called the pitches. The pitchers have the ability to shake off, but they never did. They they don't really shake off too much. They say that's it. If if if Nate the Great says throw it, they throw it, they throw it. If they don't say they don't throw it, they don't throw it. And died. Or you get a little mound visit, little mound visit from Nate and

the boys come up to you snap your athletic supporter a little bit. Yeah, and the pitcher knows what to do. What does it feels as senior Maller to win? I think it's been nine years or so since you won a state title, so you were in grades, going somewhere. What was the feeling on mallor your last game to win the state title? I mean it felt great. I mean we've been working for that for for four years now, ever since we were a freshman. We knew that we were a

special class and we have the ability to do it. And so to see it finally come into come into play there, it was. It was. It was really special because it's baseball. A bad team can be a good team in baseball, and a good team can be a great team. Yeah, I mean high school baseball in the tournament when never now one and outs. Crazy, It's crazy. Though. Now where are you going to school? I heard you might be going to Xavier, maybe the University of Tilly

to law school. Do you know where you're going to school? I'm going to Write State, the home of the Ralph thunder Hill and the Raiders exactly. And CJ, where are you going? If anywhere? I'm going to Ohio State. That's too bad. That's too bad. You're gonna play play sports there. Yes, I tend to play baseball. Set times baseball. That's good. Are they that good to tim? Are they that really good? Really good? These two and two other guys were on the varsity as

sophomores. So these two and Toby and Clay have won eighty games on the varsity level in the last three years, haiti out of eighty And what's sixteen eighty and sixteen? Have you play Deer Park High School? With not? You don't want to measure up the program where the park is. We can make that call. We can set that up. Yeah, let me think if you can help, you could set that up. Think bet him play Cole Rain. Do you play Cole Ring? Oh? Yeah, yes,

did you? How did you do against Cole Rank? Got beat pretty bad? No, Actually, you want to think about that. They competed. They competed well, a great team. They competed. Well, it's better than it. I got the better answer than you did. At least he said, yeah, yeah, we beat him. When he said you want to call deer Pie, well I don't know that. At least we competed at Cole Rain. Timas next year's team. Look, I had a report of the inquiry. You lose most of your players, is that correct?

Graduated thirteen seniors. Most of our pitching staff got the hammers on the mound, got the hammers on the mound. So I'll keep us in the games early while we put our whole offense and defense back together. CJ. Do you play summer ball? Um? I do, but I'm not this year. I will be going up to Ohio State the Nate I do, Yeah, Thomas Funeral Home. Who do you play for? I play? We're

I'm playing for the Champion City Kings this year up up in springfields. Number one, summer number one, something like that, Yark County, yea Elma Wittenburgh universe. It is segmenting Cremcheck, creme check. That's crem Check's Bailey Wick, creme Check and Moller like together at one gets a lot of crem check. Stadium is right? The baseball it's where are we? What? Like? Eighteen to know? This year? Not bad? You won seventeen

straight at one time, right, seventeen straight? What's your story about you going back to your hometown coach? What's that? Going back to Defiance? Yeah? Yeah, yeah that we send our freshmen up there every year to kind of pay the way to see if it's safe. I think I might be hitting their security for you when you go back. Okay, keep the crowds and the autographs away. Jeannie Gulick controls defiance with an iron grip. I think we're gonna play there next year. Did they have a parade for

you? They did not. So when you win the state title, like you come home, get out of the fans and the cars, endway, go home. That's yeah. Well, usually this year was a little different because they were having a reunion. The nineteen seventy three class was there and so one hundred members of the class of seventy three were actually on campus. But a number of years, Yeah, we've gotten back and it's just kind of hate. Good job guys, and some fist bumps clean the bus out

and see ye wouldn't want to me. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Segments, we got Dick Williams coming up in about fifteen minutes of Skyline, Chili and the Cincinnati Reds. He put together this team, he said, Nick Crawl, listen to what he had to say, and Dick Williams put together the team. Now kicking ass in Houston. Segment give me some sports and make it fast. We'll lea. The Stude reporters are proud

service of your local Temp Star Heating at air conditioning dealers. Temp Star quality you can feel in Cincinnati called Stacy Heating at Air Solutions five one three three six seven h E A T spot The next year, coach, if I come out to throw some BP, can the boys handle the heat? That they'll try, they'll try to compete. I'm still throw these guys will be gone. They don't. They're gonna see Uncle charl Maybe they'll come back just for you. We get the date early enough, they'll come back. See

if you can hit me back. We'll see if they can take it enough time so different directions. They look hungry right field. Every Thursday we got Ron's Roost Chicken. If you guys want to just checking check it out. I got to feed these kids. Say go ahead. Speaking of Ron's Roost, will we thank them? A restaurant and bar good on the good old West Side thirty eight fifty three Race Road at five to seven four O two

two two is the Chicken hot line Pam bringing down our lunch today. We thanked them very much, and uh it's gonna be packed this weekend with carry out for father's mother. That's Obama called in to say that again, Brock, thank you, Red Ja hammer out those four home runs last night, Willy downing the Royal seven to four. How about the errors though it doesn't make it like a team that has four errors in one game. No, no, we don't do that. Please can take the they've one that they

suite this series. What they should have done? They rolled a win number five one, eight to ten. Steer, Fairchild, McClean and India went deep. What about Nayton CJ. What do they do? They were probably watching the game for the cycle. Red's now at thirty four and thirty five, thirty a half game back a second place Milwaukee in one and a half behind first place Pittsburgh. If Muller was thirty four and thirty five, Tim held would be a goodbye Land just a math teacher, Yeah, you'd be

a math teacher. Are you a math teacher? Yeah? Do you boys? Take Let me ask you some questions. I'm glad you brought that up them. What's the score root of eighty one nine? What is the capital of Indiana Indianapolis? Who is the vice president yes, how many Senate seats are there in the US Senate? And I took regular government, not ap government, one of the three branches of the federal government. Executive. All right, who did in America fighting World War two? Germany? And pretty

good? How about World War One? It was Germany? And we'll take that as an answer. Yeah, all right, segment, These boards owners dumb as kids of Coleraine. I'll say that. Let's see Willie the Redger in Houston on this day off. They opened a series against Dusty Baker's astros tomorrow night. How many how many seats are in the House of Representatives in Washington? I'm gonna say a hundred? How many seats in the House of

Representatives? On you're closer? Who did America declare independence from in seventeen seventy six? Okay? Who was the it was? You know? Why why don't they ask you questions? I asked me who was the second president? Well? I don't even know that one. You probably know that because you're older. That's a cut right there. We got a celebritied cut right there. That good man, you're coming back. Adam's seventeen ninety six to eighteen

hundred there's another one. This is these kids are MP's not going to Ohio State. Sorry, buck, guys, he's staying here on the show. He didn't get a ged like you did. At least I got through it. Yeah, let's see. Ask me a question, all right? All right? Uh, maybe a mathematical formula the value of pie, for example, I think the mathematical formulas coach's department. Yeah, question, you can give him a question, all right? What's what's the co sign of sixty

degrees? The indicators on the else and then you swipe one arm. That's that's your golf club and your golf bag, In't it? Not sure? Say? Please continue? Let's see what else is going on? Willy Oh? How about this? Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes last night after the game in Kansas City asked a La de la Cruz for an autograph bat day. La Cruz signs the bat. In return, he gets an autograph Mahomes jersey and a bad deal. How about that? Not a bad deal?

There? By the way, what year was Ohio formed as a state and admit end of the union? Eighteen o three? Very good? And who was president in eighteen oh three? He gave us the Louisiana purchase and so much more. He was from Virginia. It wasn't Monroe. Oh, Monroe wrong, that's Jefferson. If these boys gone at Deer Park, they would have known that it is not my answer. Actually, every day, every Saturday for thirty six years as president vice president United States. You don't know

what he is. Do you think he thinks he's vice president for thirty six years. The Bengals are going to open up training Camp Willy on Wednesday, July twenty sixth Nate who is the governor of Ohio? The governor currently? Please continue sake, let's see back to school. The Las Vegas Raiders if signed Cath, a Notre Dame star, their second round pick tight end Michael

Mayer four year rookie deal, Coney three million cocath. Pro Football Talk reports an unidentified NFL player reportedly lost eight million dollars gambling in twenty twenty two. Hopefully not a Bengal Dad, Not who that is. It might be that die from the Colts. Yeah, they're sports. I'm getting a wave off and we got to get back to the commercials. That's what we do fill time between commercials. Four way tie for the lead early at the US Open.

Will he all right? Gentlemen, congratulations? Do you have girlfriends and all that child support payments, alimony anything like that? He does? Good. Boys are pretty good. They might want to take over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got you, Okay, got kids? What well? You work cheap so well? Tim held congratulation. Thank you very j and Nate congratulation. Thank you, Win more and win in life. If you can win in baseball, you're gonna win in life. Segment.

Dick Williams coming up, Get me out of the stude report. William Honor of the Muller Crusaders is Division one State baseball champions for a ninth time. Nine times. We leave you with the immortal words of the stud report. Always good to be with you, Bill, See you later. Governor Dwine, when he was out of me good day. I was asking him some tough questions and he didn't like him. Would you say something about the pandemic he was doing wrong? Something like that. You guys went nuts,

didn't you three or four years ago? Oh yeah, masking everythinger. Gentlemen, Thank you, Tim, congratulations, Thank you. I make him out and pitch next year. We got you, Uncle Charlie on seven hundred w Ali music that I'm the Great America. Of course, Dick Williams is an

icon in Cincinnati, and he ran the Cincinnati Reds for many years. And when I talked to Tony Bender and others, he tells me that Dick Williams is a foundation of what's happening now with the Cincinnati Reds because of the changing the franchise to the younger players. And also it was reported a few weeks back that Dick Williams is the CEO and chairman of the board now is Skyline Chili. Talk about two iconic brands, the Reds and Skyline Chili and Dick

Williams. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, I give you full credit for what's happening with the Reds right now. Does someone else receive a little bit of credit or not? You're starting me out with a softball, man. We got such a good team over there running the Reds. Nick carl Sam Gross and Jeff Croppy, Rob Colson, Brad Metter, those guys. I love them. They're doing a great job. They're keeping it going. I was I was glad to be a part of

bringing in a lot of these young guys. But that was my brain trust and I'm having so much fun watching them, watching them play now. So thanks for asking. I've come a long way since you put your legal talents to work freeing a young man from the system of justice when I was a teenager and I ran on that field after the Reds beat the Pirates to go

to the World Series in nineteen ninety, think about my career trajectory. If you had not intervened on my behalf and put your legal talents to work to make sure I didn't get you could still be locked up, correct, You could have still be locked up fifty years later. You know. Back then and Cincinnatis, they didn't take stuff like that lightly. No, I mean,

Marge could have thrown the book at me. It's amazing that the kid running on the field, may I say, acting like a goofball later on would be the general manager of the red What were the odds of that kid becoming the gym of the Reds. Well, I'm thinking zero, No, not none, listen, zero even even less than you know. I never got arrested the Skyline, but I sure spend as much time in Skylines as I did at Riverfront Stadium, and to be able to be a part of

both organizations layer in life, that's got to defy some serious odds. Well, what are the odds of this weekend? They're off today, but Friday, Saturn and Sunday. This is a preview of the World Series Houston Cincinnati. Is that possible? Absolutely puzzling. I'm gonna I'm gonna call Dusty and getting his head a little bit, you know, please gotta we gotta rattle his cage. Send a statement this weekend, please, because at this point I'd like to think you still own a piece of the Reds. I think

wouldn't it be wouldn't it be good? Maybe the end pick up? Maybe maybe maybe a Scherzer or pick up some stud starting pitcher if they're if they're close to the top, or just tell me we're not going to be set. We're gonna be buying in about five weeks. We are still as a family, very invested in the Reds and as a good partner, I'm not going to comment on strategic moves. I'm gonna believe I'm gonna put my faith

in Nick Sam and the boys to do the right thing. Um, But how exciting that we're that we're talking about it, that we're right here. We gotta get we gotta get passed dusty this weekend. By the way, did you get you got your skyline order? Yes, it's all going. By the way, I don't have any left. Joe Frederick brought it in about an hour or two ago, and guess what, it's gone. So

I don't know what to say. I spent twenty four so I'm not sure how many he brought in, but it started with well he was giving one away and eight the other one, so there was there was nothing left. But uh, let's say you're a better you're a better interviewer. On a full stomach, you can get a little gratchy when you're you're not. I haven't yet, so I have been fed at this point. But you're trying to be nice to me. All right, let's put the reds of the

side. What is it? You're still a relatively young man. Skyline is iconic, And even when I'm in Naples, Florida, there's one little skyline on forty on forty one Tammammi trail that I ever now that I like devil little Skyline. Well, why did you choose Skyline to run instead of something

in investment, banking or insurance, something like why skyline showing? Well, you know, our family has been here for generations and we love the same thing as a lot of the native Cincinnatians love, and Reds and Skyline are right there at the top. And yeah, this is just an exciting business. We think there's a lot of room for growth. It's a very traditional

business. It's you know, they found the recipe that works both for their food and in the stores for the experience, and we want to make sure to make it available to as many people as we can, and that's the goal we you know, we're opening a bunch of stores this summer, more than we have and in a while down in Kentucky, we opened one up in Dayton. We're gonna be open down at disney World at Orlando, just

outside of Disney World. We're coming to the airport later this fall. So you know, the demand is there for new restaurants and we're trying to make it happen. And then you know, my eyes suggest a burrito, I'm thinking about beans, I'm thinking about chili, I'm thinking about onions, I'm thinking about other recruitments. What about a burrito, like a breakfast burrito. We thought about a breakfast burrito, kind of like a taco bell kind of

a deal. Well, it is amazing that you asked that without being keyed up, because I sampled a Skyline breakfast burrito less than twenty four hours ago. And the reason I did that is because we're going to CVG, and if you're at CVG, you got to be open for breakfast. And if you're open for breakfast, you know there's people that are craving their Skyline. So we're gonna have We're gonna have items, a bunch of items with chili. It'll be fun to sample, and some items without chili if you're not

in the mood for Skyline at that early hour. But we think I can just tell you the stuff I tried yesterday and I'll the other ones will be a surprise. But there's several menu items for breakfast with chili, and I think they're going to be a hit. What do you see Dick Williams doing. You've charged on the field March shot. I almost had your arrest of pulled off by the ankles. I was involved in freeing Dick Williams. Then you run the Reds, you set the foundation, Della cruz Abbit, whatever

it might be. These new kids look so exciting. And now Skyline Chili. In ten or twenty years, what will Dick Williams be doing. I'm working on a merger. We're going to merge the Reds and Skyline. They will throw the Bengals in there too. I'm sure Mike Brown will be happy. Services Sports team will provide it a one stop shop for everything Cincinnati related. That's beautiful? What's your God? Which I always get the same thing. I always always get relatively dry three way, but I like to have

a sprinkling of onions, maybe every inch or two on top. It's kind of a three way plus, not quite a four way, not kind of three way, not quite a five way. If I could get maybe ten to twenty beans, I always tell him, give me a three way, relatively dry, make a forty percent wed, make it sixty percent dry.

Give me a couple of onions an inch or two apart on the bed before you put the cheese on, along with maybe seven or eight beans, and I mean seven or eight beans or wave of for about twelve seconds then give it to me. You know what I'm saying, that's my order. And you know what, in most restaurants, I would probably get you tossed out the door. But it's Skyline. They bring it. They bring it just

as you ask, right, I call it a Dick Williams. If I get too excited, they just they throw me on the floor and throw me out the door. Yeah. Basically George and the guys. You know, George passed away a few years ago there in Kentwood, but his family's kind of involved with Charlie and John and I. When I walk in, they start making the order and it's at my table within five minutes and they know

what I want. That's awesome. Well, I drop your name when I need to get in places, but I would rather you didn't drop my name. You dropped on when you're trying to get out of jail. That's what you did. Alight with Dick. We gotta run, thank you. And I'll tell you what when I saw this story as of this is unbelievable that

Dick Williams is now running Skyline. Because you're like a corporate raider. What you do is take companies at the bottom and take it at the top, But with Skyline you're taking comedy at the top to take it to here before. But lastly, how much difficulty is there was Skyline chili going to market like Naples, Florida, Fort Myers because no one knows about it. The

Cincinnatians do, But then they have their own iconic brands or whatever. Most regions have their own little niche like we have Graders and Skyline and a little bit of freshes. But nonetheless, how hard is it to break into a Tennessee when they say this isn't chili. Well, we're gonna find out because we're gonna tragle in some new places. But you know, those pockets in Florida your referenced have a lot to do with the Midwesterners that travel down there.

That gives us a good base of customers. Orlando will be a bit of a test case, right because we don't have a lot of Cincinnati las down there, But you gotta a ton of people coming through there, and if they if they gravitate towards it that I think that gives us optimism. We'll keep unrolling. Here we are the middle of June. I look forward to toward the third to fourth week in July. The Reds are in first place by three games. They're looking good. The better the better players,

some of the ones that TJ is gonna come back. I think Vada is going to come back. I don't know where you play him. I worry, Yeah, how about him? He's going to come back. And you have to make a decision. And you gotta call Nick Crawl and say, give me a stud starting pitcher and maybe a Raldus Chapman, who said the other night he wants to finish his career in Cincinnati. Will you acquire a

stud starting pitcher and a Raldis Chapman at the end of July. Don't give me this Nick call Crawl Crap. I want to know if you're gonna make the call and they listen to you at the Reds, will you bring in a stud starter and a Raldus Well in your end? On the offense, I mean you're forgetting offense. Don't you think you get a starter of closer in Selasic offense? Well, who do you have in mind? Where do

you play? Where do you play on this team? Second base? In the I mean right now, Ella Dela Cruise isn't hitting all of a sudden, he's got bad shot selection. I don't know about him. Did you send La Della cruise back down? Do you send him back down to Louisville? What do you do? Ellie's gonna be great. Don't get you don't get misled by these small sample sizes. That's what people do. It'll we let these guys play. You sent over a smaller sample. Tony Bender ate

all the chili. There's none left, but it was always more that I bet there as. Thanks for having me, ah man, we'll catch up soon. My last question, what is your what is your general food cost? Is it in the twenty to twenty five or is it twenty five to thirty? What? How did you? How did you get that range? Have you been studying the restaurant business a little? I think I know something about it? But do you try to get twenty to twenty two? Isn't

that the sweet point on food cost? Yes, that's a good range, that's what I thought. All right, Dick Williams, thank you very much. We'll do it again. You're showing off. Now. Let me ask you this, if the if the Reds win the World Series, will you charge out to second base and make a fool of yourself. I've always wanted to repeat that stunt, and yeah, we're going to do it. I'm only going to do it while you still for practicing law. You're the only

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Inquirer. Quote. In his short life, three year old trust In Blue suffered a list of injuries that read like a passage from my child abuse textbook on worst cases. Broken bones, broken fingers, a foot, broken leg, head injuries, bleeding ear, brain damage, a bleeding penis, a torn anis. Six days after he was beaten for the last time, the three year old body's boy's body was placed in a tawny casket on a cold

January morning. Goes on to say that the inquiry reviewed sixteen twenty pages of Trustin's caseworker, medical and court records, giving rare insight into the failures of social services. His mother left a little boy with the boyfriend. That boyfriend, Lamont Hunter and police detective investigated trust and trust ins a broken bones and injuries to his penis and anus and all the other injuries, and she related

off the air. It was the worst of the worst. And this went on for years that this animal abused his three year old boy, finally killing him. Relatives knew what was happening. Quote. He felt terrible every time he was around the little boy who would wet his pants. He was basically abused his entire life by Lamont. The system abused him just as much,

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waterproofing basements. Bagged out of all that you've done here, and I've been on the show a bunch of times with you, is the integrity of this show and the way that you've presented yourself. In the way that you've presented this show has made at that number one show for so many years. And if I can do anything for you after leaving, it's maintained that integrity of

the show. And I hope that that you go on to become the huge number one guy but at NBC, and I'm sure you will, but I also hope that you'll come back from time to time and stop in with us and and uh and do this show, because I mean, this is yours, this is what you've created. Well, thanks, Chris. You're unnatural for this program. You can dominate the conversation just like I can. So,

I mean, you've learned the toughest part of this business. But officially, Monday night at six o'clock, you will be the permanent host for life, or until something else happened of Sports Talk. And I'm happy for you. I'm really happy for you. Thank you. I'm gonna get out here. I'm gonna let you do. Okay. I know there's a lot of

people want to talk. Congratulations, Congratulations, Hello, Hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting nineteen eighty nine, the handoff segment between Trumpy Colin Swartz right there, the fur Ball. Yes, who was president of nineteen eighty nine? I don't know, ask them Mohler guys, that's the Saint X guy. The boys did you always ask me questions? Ask him? So I'm not as good as they could. Who was president in nineteen eighty nine? Rock Bush? That's pretty good? Okay, the first seg you're gonna tell

him about all the disparaging things you said. Geniuses at the six questions. Yeah, there were some civic questions left unanswered. But the boys are I think they were a little overwhelmed being in your president. Well that's one, yeah, I mean the Great America did I'm mistaken? One of them claimed that you were alive when James Monroe was president eighteen twenty. Well that was a little bit off. And I used to make fun of individuals ever being old. Now I'm one of them. I don't know. But in the

Furball came in about a year or two later. Is that correct? Yes, because Colins Roths was gone so much right and now it looks as if we've gone full cycle with Trumpy and Colins Roth coming back and Lance McAllister leaving. Am I reading the tea leaves here correctly. Willie the student portus a pro service of your local teen star heating in dealers ten star quality. You could feel in Cincinnati, cal Wyoming Air had won eight eight, eight nine

nine six h v A c i'become what I criticized. We got a golf update, Willie US Open Update, brought to you by five Iron Golf. I hope play the way you want. First round right now. Ricky Fowler leads through eleven at five hundred. He's got seven birdies wow in Los Angeles. So he's one of the ones that could have gone to live made north of one hundred million dollars now, although his game wasn't up to that, his persona is one of the most popular players on tour and he decided to

stay. Now he's leading the LA Open aka the National US Open. Jacob Solomon and Xander Shaffley are three hunder. Scott Scheffler's one to under threw eleven, John Ram even through nine, Justin Thomas, three over through thirteen, Thomas Justin or Justin Thomas, Justin Thomas out of Louisville. Did you hear the President a couple of days ago talk about the bridge America is building between the Pacific Ocean and the Indian Ocean with involvements of Angola. But we're gonna

wind and we're gonna help. We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Dan Ocean. We have plans to build in in Angola, one of the largest solar plants in the world. I can go on, but I'm on, I'm going off script and get in trouble. So the railroad's gonna be. You gotta have a station in one of the islands of Hawaii too, if you're gonna have it right, I guess laying track and the ocean isn't a different question. No, come on,

in the media deal with this. You imagine if if Trump said that, oh oh, he'd be he'd be railroaded out of town again. He might be. I'm on, I'm going off script. I'm get in trouble. He's gonna he's gonna get indicted again. You know, I texted last night the Trumps. I can't say exactly who. It was. Also Rocky, he's got credibility sake. Yeah, and uh, look look at the name right there. Oh yeah. And I suggested to someone close to the Trumpster

that difficult days lie ahead because it's all funning games now. Have the rallies buy the food in the restaurants. He's got a federal prosecutor with unlimited budget, and they can transfer the part of the case, which they will do to Newark, New Jersey. It's allegedly a Bedminster country club outside of Newark is where he allegedly shared these plans. So that's that's the scheme to get it moved out of Miami, where he has a fire chance, to New

York where he has no chance none, and so on. And all I hear is I know, I know, and they won't they won't stop. And if they want to get you for something, they'll get you. And then also the Fault County sheriff and the Fuld County prosecutor, a woman named Fanny Willis, says that whatever action we take will not be affected whatsoever in timing by what's happening with the Feds. So they're gonna try him in front of a jury in Atlanta, Georgia, and what are the odds of success

there? And then then you get sentenced to prison and the state And I'm thinking it's all but and even if becomes the president again, which is unlike and then pardons himself, that's got nothing to do with the charges out of New York. He wants to win, He values wanting more than his own life. With all this going on, or all this stupid charging for this and that, which I think the average person thinks, does he is polarizing as he is? Does he become sympathetic at all? Does the person the

woman especially that doesn't like Trump? And they finally go, oh my god, here we go. They're going to charge him with this again. You know what, I hope screw them. I'm gonna vote for him, or are if people already flattened their mind up no matter what comes out. Yes, my heart says one thing, my brain another. I'm there too, and I don't I don't know how to stop this train down the track. Unlimited money, unlimited venues, AND's gotta go to go the distance though,

win and then it's a middle finger to everybody. And you think a New York jury and an Atlanta jury, he's gonna find him not guilty. No, but I'm saying he's got to win them. He's got to win them. Presidents bets. If he wins that, he delays the inevitable. Yeah, and he can't run again. You can be elected twice Obama, Barack maybe the VP with Biden because constitution says you can be elected twice to the

presidency. If he's the vice president, Barack Obama, he can be elected to the vice presidency, and then when Joe Biden mentally blows up, he can become the president because he's selected, not elected. He's the president anyway. Brock ain't gonna do that. What about Michelle though, she says, you do it. I'm too My life's too good. Democrats told some horrible people, horrible human things. Who cares? They want Michelle to be the VP. That would be it's over. It's over now. And she says

to Barack, you be the VP. So they do the research. Yes, slapping the face though, isn't it Biden? But he's even the president when he's going to be the president again, I mean, would you know nobody messes? What did you go back to doing, you know, weekend fill ins on on this radio station. No, yes, I would wouldn't go backwards. Would you say? Well, let's see America's team update. Those Reds hammered out four homers last night, downing the Royals in a sweep

and the three game series five wins in a row. They're off today in Houston. They all went to the I think the Space Center. What was that center for the performing arts in Houston? That segment enjoyed so much. I've never been to Houston, Yes you have have not? There was something there? Is it ricks? Or what's what's up? Place? That's where you went when you went there for your believe it or not. No,

I can't say the Reds are off today. They they're at the Space Center right now, David Bell and the boys that they're taking a little take a little tour of the of the Space Center or half in the bag right They opened a series up against the Astros starting tomorrow night. The action right here on seven hundred. You've all done? Is that a preview of the World Series? What the Reds are? Game and a half back and they're a

half game out of second. Milwaukee stinks right now. They've lost sixth straight. Pittsburgh's not doing it well either. They're one and a half back of first place. No, no, Pittsburgh's no, and they're not. Yeah, this is Pittsburgh and Milwaukee played this weekend starting tomorrow. The whole town

was bad. Hit it about Sunnati water team. Who they are at this space museum, all liquored up up mischief partying him positive mission go ahead at at least another month or so before the Reds get back left hander Nicolodolo. He's expected back some time now in August, turning us up. Following the following the latest MRI exam one that left calf injury, cut it off or something? Is there an a calf? It's like a cow. But what happened? I tora calf. I missed eight weeks, so but I was

like running around and cutting. It's got to his throw. He didn't do anything. Bengals do anything. Wrapped up their mandatory minicamp today, the spring or the spring training. The training camp schedule is out rock. They will kick it off Wednesday, July twenty six angles and the Gates will open there at one thirty on Wednesday, July twenty sixth. They'll have ten open practices for fans. Four additional practices will open exclusively the season ticket members and waitless

members. Got a tele I got an article here about chip Hart aerial mating disposition treatment scheduled for spongey moth. Aerial mating disruption treatments have been conducted by the Indiana Department of Natural Resources disrupting the mating rituals of spongy moss. How are you talking about somebody's gonna get somebody's gonna get sued moss? You know

the moth a moth? You know flying moths and fly How many housing developments and billion dollars projects have been put in the crapper because of like some salamander or some right here, they stopped housing projects because of the spongey moth and his dating rituals. So do you have a guy on at five talking about that. I like to mate me hair myself with a moth. Now we're now we're getting weird. That's called little rock right there. That's true.

Mating disruption treatments are extremely destructive from them more little rocks anymore? Ever, a couple of weeks ago. Boys, and you're feeling all right, all right, all right, good, I mean the best sect of me went okay, yeah, the unkindness cut of all. Well, I'll leave you the story if you're if you're Indio, want to have that guy on it the four See, we only do with the important, critical groundbreaking Roy show,

so I'm not sure that'll fit in to me. And stopping all the development in Indiana, it's all I'm telling you, Indiana housing projects trucks. Maybe we should get some of these moths in Harrisons. They stopped building the damn house every ten seconds. Get that moth going and get them out here coming Indians right next door. Fly over to India, Ohio, stop all construction immediately right there, because don't go down by the Brent Spence Bridge though.

No, get that other bridge done, and let's get it on. Building two brigs. Gonna build two and built lots of bridges. So we're gonna build a railroad track from California Tola. Yeah, we're gonna have a and he says this, like everyone, what's he what's he saying? A railroad from the Pacific all the way from most of the Pacific and Aola and then into the Indian Ocean. What do you get, you get We're gonna We're gonna help. We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all

the way across the ocean. We have plans to build inroads in Angola, one of the largest solar plants in the world. I can go on, but I'm on, I'm going off script, and you're getting trouble. Say you know where Angola is. Yeah, it's in Africa. That's not bad. You know, it's dumbest people think sometimes I come over, I could ask you a few civic questions that the Muller men didn't have an easy time answering. But nonetheless, well they were, like I said, they were

overwhelmed by your The great Americans presidence, along with shocking impressed him. Hill, Ohio founded in eighteen o three. That was that was pretty good. You know why because I told him he's mouthing, Yeah, mouthing answers to him. Yeah. Boys showed up here in front of Ron's roost. Then eaton. Since Tuesday destroyed it left, I saw nothing left. Congrats the mular Crusaders, said Tim Hill baseball teams ever to be as samble Tim years, how many boys go? Do you won a bunch of them? There's

nine of them on that team, and they have the fun team. Star pitchers are all juniors coming back next year. Maybe the future reads on there. Well, like Larkin and Junior that's about the age. And some of these kids, I mean, Della Cruz hadn't gotten hit in three games. He may be back in Louisville this time next week. Matt McClean, Matt McClean, I tell you what, you hit a home run in Kansas City,

left center, earned it and you hit it to the fountains. That ought to beat That ought to be a couple of more runs on there. How good is ds? He comes in and all going, we're what's sixteen in a row? Something? Yeah? The Mets won him desperately, apparently at the trade deadline. The Mets have a worse record than the Reds. Correct, they're a mess. How much money is their payroll? Yeah?

Well last night they had what a billion dollars worth of human beings on the planet in New York because the Yankees feet played, the Mets not performing right? What's on the Big Show today? If anything? We got a expert on at three o'clock again we only deal with the important issues. The moth

guy. No, not the moth guy. But apparently, you know, during the pandemic, everybody went remote, and everyone of course thinks that they are better a better worker while they're doing remote, which is of course not the case. Bacher having sex on the clock. They're walking their dog on

the clock. They're online shopping during the clock. What we want to talk about at four o'clock we were a fitness gust Pja Street and talk about what's better for your machines or freeway seg what do you say, don't know? What about a mating moth? What can you tell me about them? Some pheromones and try to bring them over into Harrison again flying up, stop right now, hold it, we got a moth mating, spongy moth mating occurring.

Just they get a chip heart for that information. No red spaceball tonight, I think I think Bob Trump and now that ye now that retiring Colins Horth comments coming back okay, along with Andy Furman and Tom Gamble Caldocrity, they're all going to be here. Wow, what a show. When are you going to hand the reins over to Gary, Jeff and Sarah. That would be a sight to behold. But I think I'll be told Wend will come with me. You've had enough. Forty years is enough. We've bet

enough of your act. We can't take it anymore, take it anymore. If I got a certain guest on again, make mercy on my soul, because I went on and manny mercy and character tonight right here in Charlotte, North Carolina, and in front of the world, I have to announce you I will never re fire. Yeah. Yeah, that's Rick Flaire, my nature boy. He's the best. Would you agree with game better? What a life that guy has lived. He's done it all. He's been on

some podcasts talking about his life. Just insane fact he's still standing. Unbelievable. It can't make it to eighty one like mister Fuji made it for quite a while, and uh well what about the Iron Street mean me to eighty one? He was not. I used to sit with him in a bar and Sarah soda with Wayne Carucci talking about stories about Steamboat Oh Gene, mean

yeah, well the best. He used to call him every so often, And remember you used to call him every single Dad, if you find any cuts of mean Jean and Me let me know you can play it on the other side. But segment Rocky, thank you, thank you, Spongey mobs and the mating habits thereof now coming to her well shut down construction projects, Curtsey a Rocky one segment get me out of the Students report, Willy, in an honor of America's team aka the Reds, we leave you with the

immortal words of the student report, sucks and slaughter. You've been in seclusion now for well over a month. In my travels around the country, there isn't a person who doesn't agree that you've got what you deserved at SummerSlam. As a matter of fact, I think you've got exactly what you deserved during that match made in Hell. Wow. Also, Willie, we say happy birthday today to fifth Third Bank, one hundred and sixty five years young,

especially all the fine folks in the Middletown branch. I think Jim Scott made the first deposit at the bank. I think he did still has his last.

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