By Bill cunning him the great American. Of course, the Democratic Party is going to run once again on January the sixth when I watch MSNBC, so you don't have to every morning, that's what they deal with and every afternoon and every evening. It won't go away because they see that as a winner politically. Along with abortion, killing as many unborn healthy babies as possible are
the two main causes of the Democrat Party in this election. One of the persons swept up in this was Tim Hale, who was a January sixth defendant. I understand he was sentenced to about four years in federal prison, did about three. He joins us now in Tim Hale, welcome, I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. And I think many Americans would like to know your involvement in January sixth. But first of all, the temper of the times. Why did you go there? What was your
expectation? And give us the temper of the crowd before it entered the Capitol. Well, sure, we thank you for having me on. Bill. Absolutely what happened that day I was there after an overnight shift. I was working as a naval security contractor, a weapons contractor. I had worked for the government for about twelve years actually, So I got off of my overnight shift and I blasted down the road to DC from Jersey, and you know, I went there in a suit and a tie, thinking it was just
going to be a speech. So for me and I think a lot of people, was just going to be historic day. I thought, either it would be the last, you know, public speech of President Trump's you know, only term, or god willing, it would be the beginning of his second term, you know, and we would pull a rabbit out of that. It was historic, it just wasn't historic in the way that a lot
of us had expected. And so the benefit of being out now is that I've released a lot of video from my phone, and I think this is why they kept a lot of us in solitary confinement for so long, was they didn't want the public to see this video. You know, the public has seen the same twenty second clips of January sixth, of someone like breaking
a window or something like that for three years. But the truth is that if you look at the video I have, people were just listening peacefully to Trump's speech at the Ellipse, and you know, by the Washington Monument, that area in DC, and then they just gradually and slowly meandered towards the
Capitol building. What people don't realize is that a half hour before we show up, a guy named Rayes who's a federal informant, and a bunch of you know, proud boys who were likely infiltrated, they breached a perimeter which was guarded by about five Capitol police, and this perimeter, which consists basically of bike racks, gets knocked over, and people don't know that. So
this is this is before Trump's speech is finished. And what ends up happening is because these perimeters were knocked down, it basically erased, and the fencing around it too, like little mesh fencing was all cut down as well. Thousands and thousands of people unsuspectingly pour into the area, not knowing that there is any restricted area at all, so they think that they're just there for a protest, the First Amendment demonstration, which they are, and the video
approves this. I have video where we're just we're singing God Bless America, We're singing the national anthem, we're chanting christ as King. You know, we're just having a good time. We're peacefully demonstrating, people are waving their flags and all that chanting USA USA. What ends up happening is again a lot of most people don't know they're not allowed to be there, and so the Capitol Police basically don't know what they're doing. A lot of them are
completely unprepared, and then eventually the Metro Police. Actually, I want to put most of this on the Metro PD. There were probably elements inside the Capitol PD who set this up, but the Metro PD are the ones who escalated it into a full blown riot. They started throwing flash bang grenades at
old ladies in the middle of the crowd who weren't even doing anything. And then you had agitators who were planted inside of the crowd who were basically giving the cops an excuse to attack the crowd, and this created a snowball effect. The average person has no idea about this, but I have video, and if you go to my Twitter account Tim Hale criminally Funny Jay sixer, you can see some of this video. The average person, anybody who wasn't
there, doesn't know the story. So Tim Hale, you were not part of some grand conspiracy of the Proud Boys. You're a naval contractor. You're about two hundred and fifty miles away. You thought, you know, I love Donald Trump. Let's go to hear the speech which he gave. He said, go to the Capitol and protest peacefully. And you're there. You weren't part of some grand conspiracy. You were a person that said this might
be an historical event. I have some free time, let's get to Washington, d C. And then all of a sudden, like a wave, you were swept up in this thing. And have you seen the HBO document on what happened with Nancy Pelosi? It's now available that she says, I take responsibility for not protecting the capital. And this was Nancy Pelosi. Of course this was not well, shall we say, disseminated the last few days because it doesn't fit the die tribe. But what happened on that day.
But have you seen the HBO footage about Nancy Pelosi yelling and her chief of staff? Why wasn't the National Guard here? I take responsibility for that, And that is not even today. It's not a big news item. It came out the last three or four days, but it's not a big news item. Why is that, Well, because she was a part of it, and you know, I hinted that this was sort of an inside job.
There's actually body camera footage from the Metro PD and they're yelling. They're yelling because they're completely outnumbered, and they say, they set us up, they set us up. And the question is whose day? The Metro PD answer to Mayor Bowser and the Capital PD answered to Nancy Pelosi. So they were obviously set up by the Democrats in DC because as we know, Trump
offered them National Guard support. We also know that Nancy Pelosi's daughter was filming that documentary, and I actually happen to know from being inside the DC Gulag that there were two federal informants named Nathan mcgrave and Ronald Sandlin, and they were coordinating. They were trying to work footage, they were trying to work with Nancy Pelosi's daughter. They were there with a film basically with camera camera crews. So there were a lot of informants there to stage events so that
it could be sold or recycled as insurrection propaganda. And that's also we're going to talk about the fifteen twelve charge eighteen USC fifteen twelve was first upheld in federal court for those very two informants. So federal informants are the first defendants who had the fifteen twelve upheld. And that same charge wasn't just used against Jay sixth defendants, it's also now being used against President Trump. So this
was coordinated years in advance. So you think who was coordinating. Alexandra, who's the of Nancy Pelosi has the video which wasn't given to the January sixth committee, in what she says to her chief of staff. Quote this Nancy Pelosi yelling in the back of a limousine, we have responsibility, Terry. Terry being her chief of staff, we did not have any accountability for what was going on there. We should have. This is ridiculous, and she's
screaming this quote. You're going to ask me in the middle of this thing when they already preached the Capitol and that stuff. I'm responsible for this. Why didn't we do more? That's Nancy Pelosi saying that. But tell me from your perspective, Tim Hale, how was this who conducted the conspiracy? Why did this happen? How come there were bicycle racks and no one in the Capitol or Bowser, listen to Donald Trump. We said, get the
national Guard there. They were quickly overwhelmed, and all of a sudden you were in a wave. Did you commit any criminal acts in the Capitol like destruction of property, breaking down doors, destroying windows? What did Tim Hale do on that day? Yeah? No, I mean, look, I'm very open about the fact that I, like, I've been in internet troll for like fourteen years. I'm an amateur comedian. You know, I'm kind of a smart guy. But I was there in a suit and tie.
I went to Men's warehouse the night before to get brand new dress shoes. I did try to be as respectful as possible when I went there that day. You know, I did want to be as as much of a representative or as much of a good citizen as I possibly could. So when I went into the Capitol building, I just wandered around. So I didn't assault anybody. I didn't break anything, I didn't steal anything, and most people didn't. And so if you look at the CCTV footage, I'm in the
an area called the crypt. I'm looking at the statues, you know. I actually there's this dorky clip of me dancing inside the Capital Visitor Center. You know, I'm just having a good time. I don't there's no riot from my perspective. And so I actually I actually talked to the Capitol Police they like for about ten minutes and like, oh, you guys got to go, And so they actually directed us out. You know, we followed them out of the building. It was a totally different story than what you
see on CNN. And so yeah, absolutely, most people who were inside the building. You can even see the footage of them walking through velvet ropes like it's a museum. It's like it's a four. So absolutely not Nancy Pelosi yelling in her chief of staff that afternoon quote, they thought they had sufficient resources. That's Nancy Pelosi's chief of staff of Terry mccullar, referring to the Capitol Police. And then she says, it's not a question of how
they had. They don't know. They clearly didn't know the problems, and I take responsibility for not having them to be prepared more. That's Nancy Pelosi out of her mouth. So why didn't the January sixth Committee put that out there? I'm gonna say probably because it was a fake committee and it was a partisan witch hunt more than likely. I remember watching those when I was actually in the in the gulag still and they were just absolutely fake. Most
of the testimony you got from say Capitol police officers completely fake. They lied about what the oathkeepers did, they lied about the initial brief, they lied about everything, and the video corroborates this. This isn't even in my opinion. The unfortunate thing is that it's just taken so many years for the truce to finally come out. And I mean, that's really that's really it is, and you know nobody's going to be held responsible for it. That's a
real crime. No, no, nothing. So you're in the Capitol. It appears you're being let in by the Capitol police. You walk into the Capitol, walk around looking at stuff, and you leave. How did the FBI finally find Tim Hale and put you in the handcuffs? This is a convoluted story. But I was living on the Navy base that I actually worked on, and my roommate was turned into an informant by MCIs, so they
had him wear a wire to get me say incriminating stuff. I was partially set up by by the management at the job I was the contractor for because I was also the union rep. So I didn't have a very good relationship with management, as you can imagine how labor disputes go. So they ended up they knew what they knew that I was there, they just didn't know the DEI. So they ended up giving a tip to NCIS. And so basically they were stalking me for about a week until they finally grabbed me.
And it's basically it. And and they threw the book at you. How many weeks or months passed from January sixth until the handcuffs got on you? One week? And then I spent a year in solitary confinement in Washington, d C. After that, I was in the DC Gulag for about two years, and then I was in a federal prison at FCI four Dix and Jersey for about another year after that. So thank god they got President Trump's signed the first step back, or I might have had to do a longer
sentence. I only had to do three years out of four. But yeah, thank god for Criminal Justice Reformer, I would have done more time. How many are still locked up in the solitary confinement of the Washington d C jails. How many of other J six co defendants are still locked up? I think there's probably less than thirty now, but they're still there. I'm going to say there are hundreds of people who were who are in jails and prisons throughout the country. So it's not just Washington d C. It's kind
of like the Gulag archipelago. You know, it's not you know, there's there, It's just like there are many many facilities that the Feds have scattered throughout the country, and J six defendants are being held there totally out of
sight and out of mind. And this is on top of the fact that there are over fourteen hundred people who've been charged so far, and now they're bragging they're going to probably get up to two thousand before the election, What were the conditions and the and the Washington d C jail when you talk about the Goolag and solitary confinement described to the American people the conditions without embellishing, I'll say this, the conditions probably did improve after the first year, but
in the first year you were in solitary confinement for twenty three hours a day. You were only allowed out for a shower and maybe a fifteen minute phone call. That wasn't always guaranteed because there were so many people in there and only four phones. He kind of had to, you know, it was kind of a gamble. You were not allowed to have visitation with family. You were rarely allowed to see your own lawyer. They refet for some time.
They refused to give you your own discovery so you could actually work on your case, your evidence. You were not allowed to have religious services. You were not allowed to groom, so I went sixteen months before I could get a haircut. My hair was down to my back. They would not give us speedy trials, so again, sixteen months. It took me a year and a half for me to get trial or to go to trial. And you're supposed to be able to do that thanks to the Speedy Trial Act
within seventy days. I had to wait sixteen months. And so keep in mind again we're in solitary confinement for most of this, and even after they end a solitary portion of it, you're still you're barely able to go outside. You can't see sunlight, there's no nutritional food. You know, it's jail, so I don't expect people to care too much about jail food. But there was no meat. There was no fruit. It was just you know, broccoli stems or it was soy patties. People were developing health issues
because of it. And on that subject, there was no healthcare. There were no doctors there. Anytime I tried to get a furlough for an ear infection, I was denied. And so, you know, it basically was like a third world country. And most of the staff, I'm not saying this to be mean, most of the staff were foreigners, so they barely spoke English and they didn't care. And that's you know, the unfortunate thing
is, like, again, it's not a partisan issue. This could happen to us, It can happen to anybody, and so the whole system needs to be changed. It's just a disaster. Tim Hale, Did you have television? Did you have books? Did you have exercise equipment? What did you have in solitary confinement? Just to bet and that's it. In solitary you had a one inch thick mattress with no pillow. It was like a
foam mattress on a metal frame. You were in basically a seven foot cube for lack of a better term, You had a two inch window slit that was kind of corroded, but you could sort of see out of the window. You couldn't see much though, because it was just a graveyard behind you. So the Dcjail has a parking lot for the officers to park in and a graveyard, so you could see graves, which is very encouraging. And
that was pretty much it. In terms of workout equipment, there was a gym we were never really allowed to go in, and the like two or three times they actually ended up bringing us over there for like an hour. All the equipment's broken, the floor tiles are broken, everything's falling apart, and then there's a TV but it's always put on unsurprisingly liberal liberal news MSNBC
and CNN. I imagine, yep, yep. Absolutely. You got to represent right and then and then occasionally you could order you could have books sent in, but because the mail room takes like two months to give you anything that comes in, they like I was getting I was getting letters from Thanksgiving in April, you know, like they so, I mean, you're lucky, good good luck if that happens. Tim Hale. We have to run. How did the American people access you? What is your what is your
ex account? Or Facebook? How can people contact you? You can find me on x if you type in Tim Hale, criminally funny Jay sixer and uh, you know, if you're interested in finding out more information about all the other families too, you can go to Patriot Freedom Project dot com.
It's a charity that my family set up. It's endorsed by President Trump and basically it's just a fun to help with a lot of the you know, financial burdens of the defendants and their families because a lot of these guys were the bread winners, and so you're I got I got lucky in that regard. I'm not married, I don't have kids. A lot of these guys aren't so lucky, and so it's really hard for these families to get by.
I have to run. But you went there a suit and a tie and a brand pair of shoes, ended up in stripes and served three or four years. It's uh, not what people and it's not what we think is the United States of America. I think you should have hung a Hamas flag around the shoulders of George Washington, in which case you would have been wined, dined, and pocket lined. But Tim Hale, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and thank you for telling
us your story. Thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it. God bless you, God Bless America. Bill Cunningham, seven hundred WULW. You sailed beyond the horizon in search of an island scrubbed from