Now, Hi, Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this rather somber Friday afternoon in the Triesdate Reds Baseball kicks off about six oh five to night, tough series and hot Land. They're in Houston, of course to play the astronomical see what happens down there. But today's all about the funeral of WT. Larry Henderson and the things he did for
our country and many. It is part of the tradition to have maybe a policeman or a constable, or a sheriff or someone from every state in the Union, and turnout for Larry has been unbelievable. The services are ongoing now as I speak, with a funeral in spring Grove later on this afternoon. But joining you and I now is the Richard K. Jones, the Sheriff of Butler County.
And first of all, before we get to the kindness that you displayed in providing apparatuss for the funeral, including the case on and the ride of his horse, et cetera, what special concern do you have in today's world that you cannot be involved in an incident, but you're targeted because of the uniform you wear for death. It is something different about this one than all the other ones.
Listen, the whole world is upside down and the United States and it's people are full of hate, people that weren't full of hate before or more full of hate today, and we have its generational hate. People in college have been taught to hate and just over just about anything. And when you have a deputy sheriff directing traffic at a fun event, this is where people are graduating that you see and you're directing traffic and you are targeted
to be murdered, it's it's unbelievable. It's a cowardice thing to do. And to pick somebody at random that's in front of you and murder them with your vehicle.
It's disgusting.
And because of that, we're having to mourn a hero's death and law enforcement and then the communities all over the United States, all over the state of Ohio, the flags are at half mask and we're all sticking together and he's going to be put out like the hero that he is, but it doesn't make his family. They're going to be missing somebody at their table. They're going to be missing somebody that's fun, that's gave their entire life to protecting the community by a cowardice act.
You know, you know yesterday when I watched the news conference at Connie Pillah, I said to others that this is a defining moment in a new prosecutor's life, and that is if you don't provide the death penalty for someone like Rodney Hinton Junior, thirty eight years old. If this case is not the death penalty, you don't have a death penalty in Ohio, like in Clairemont County when that one young father brutally and cold blood murdered his own three little boys, and that prosecutor decided not to
seek the death penalty because it was difficult. So well, Clairemont County doesn't have a death penalty. If that guy didn't get the death penalty, there can't be one. Would you agree that if we have a death penalty, the person who in cold blood brutally murdered, murdered Larry Henderson as obviously should get the death If this doesn't happen in this case, we don't have a death penalty.
I agree with you. We do not have a death penalty at that point. And this is a brand new prosecutor and uh, we've got to do what we've got to do to protect law enforcement. Without safety and without security in our lives, we have nothing. And I've told you before, in Maslow's hierarchy of needs, there's like ten of them, fifteen of them. Air food safety is at the very top. And we've got to feel safe in our community. And when this happens, we've got to do
what we have to send a message. If you murder police officers, if you murder law enforcement, you will be punished appropriately and I mean appropriately.
Well, let's talk about what Butler County did for Larry Henderson. This is a great gift that you're giving. Explain the riderless horse and what you're providing to Hamilton County.
Basically, the cason is if you look up Kaison, it's a carriage that was yearsed during the Civil War. They carried cannons on them and there were so many people killed they had to move the bodies. So they took the cannons off of the carriages that were pulled with
horses and they put the bodies on the casson. And then after that they developed funerals of heroes that were killed in action and they would use the actual caissons to pull with the horses with the casket, the flag draped casket, and if you look online you'll see where they've done. The President of the United States, the President Kennedy, other law enforcement people that have been murdered, died in the line of duty. They have a cason that pulls that.
We have a truck we buried over thirty two I believe it is at thirty three countin Larry. Their names are on the back of our semi truck that hauls the cason the horses. We've used it for the past twenty five years and we've buried soldiers from Iraq, Afghanistan, soldier that came back from World War II and they've just recovered their bodies. We've buried police officers, law enforcement different states. And this is a piece equipment was made
twenty five years ago through donations. It was forty thousand dollars and it was all donations made by off of a replica a person that makes replica equipment.
That are for.
Civil war reenactments or war reenactments. This blueprint was actually received. We got the blueprint from the Pentagon from actual kasons that were used in the Civil War, there was blueprints and it's specifically made right off of that. The kaisons that you see that they use at Arlington Cemetery are actual kaissons from the Civil War, but this one is made off of the blueprints. It's the most honorable way
that you can be honored. When the horses are pulling the caison, there's a riderless horse, usually behind the cason that signifies that an officer or someone has died that is being pulled by the cason, And on the riderless horse, the boots are put on the horse backwards, I meaning there's no rider on the horse. When you see this, there will not be a dry eye anywhere. It's very somber, it's very well done, and it makes you so proud that we honor people that have risked their lives for
us every single day. And we're honored that Hamilton County has asked us to help with us. We buried one or two police officers in Cincinnati with the and it's an honor for us to be asked to help with what they've got going on, and it's we're just honored to be asked to be a small part of this.
Sheriff when I had on his criminal defense attorney, but I'm referring to it Rodney Hinton Junior's thirty eight I had on Clyde Bennett criminal defense attorney. He was discussing the unnecessary aspects of the shooting. And as a sheriff, as a law enforcement official for about thirty five years, when you tell your men a shoot don't shoot, which are scenarios? And I've gone through a shoot don't shoot
scenario and I didn't do very well. You have a split second decision to take someone's life or to be shot yourself or others. In this case, the four young young men eighteen years old, according to media accounts, heisted a Kia from Edgewood, Kentucky and Ken County, and they brought it somehow over to Hambleton County, and they wanted to be in an area up on East Price Hill with a condo project. They could be by themselves, one
way in, one way out. They went into that area and it was tripped along the way by a tracker on the Kia that indicated where the car was, and so the police did not know. When they came up, they were about to encounter four individuals with two guns, including a nine millimeter with an extended meg. So in that situation, the two police cars came up with their lights on, sirens on, and the four of them immediately
got out of the car started running. One of the four took the nine millimeter with him, that was Ryan Hinton, eighteen years old. The other three simply ran like jack rabbits into the woods. And Ryan Hinton had the opportunity at that point to run away. He could have simply got He could have followed his three brother thieves and simply run into the woods, which would have made it difficult to find, but with K nine units and drones,
not so difficult today anymore. But nonetheless, he decided to take with him as he began to run, a nine millimeter with an extended meg, and when he took about three or four steps, he fell to the pavement and the gun fell with him. At that point, two or three officers on the body cam you hear him shouting gun, gun, gun, and an officer's mind, it's a life and death situation
after that. At that point, when Ryan Hinton, having picked up the gun from the car in the first place, having taken three or four steps, knowing that police are right there and he falls and drops the gun. He then picks up the gun. Bad choice. That's when police are an extra alert. When you hear gun, gun, gun, you know you're about to have a life and death situation. He could have run with the other three straight ahead into the woods. Instead. There were two large dumpsters that
provided camouflage for fire whatever he wanted to do. But when the officer heard gun, gun, gun, that's when he pulled out his weapon. The weapons are not pulled out to chase somebody. They were pulled out because the word gun gun gun was expressed within two seconds of gun, gun, gun. There were five shots fired by the Cincinnati police officer, and according to the defense team, the Ryan Hinton on the video appears to be running away from the officer
without the gun being directly pointed at the cop. When the officer gave a statement, he said the gun was pointed at me. He may be unlining the word. May be wrong about that, because it would take I had on Rob Sanders, your friend from Kenton County yesterday, who said it takes about a quarter of a second for a gun to be in someone's hand to go from straight ahead to left, and you have a quarter of a second to make a decision, which is the length
it takes to blink your eye. Do you see anything wrong as an expert in these areas, that the police officer from Cincinnati did anything wrong.
No, I do not listen when you're dealing with a gun. If you're standing in front of somebody in your face and then they have a gun and you're a police officer, you can even have your gun on your finger on the trigger. If they decide to shoot you before your brain reacts to your finger, they can pull the trigger and shoot you. Even if you're both standing there with a gun pointing at each other. That the brain and you see them by the time you pull the trigger
too late. Police officers are shot when they're running. They can turn around and shoot you. Just the blink of an eye. You can be shot. And it's always easy to second guess. Anybody shouldn't have had the gun, shouldn't have been running with the gun, shouldn't have been taking somebody's car, And listen, police officers risk their lives every day. You don't have to wait for somebody to shoot at you first to return fire. And like I said, if you're standing there facing someone with a gun.
I've been in training.
Before, where you have your finger on the trigger, they can still shoot you before you can return fire. Nope, the police officer goes home and the person with the gun doesn't go home. Shouldn't do that, shouldn't be involved in that.
And it's it's.
Sad for everybody, But you can be shot in such short periods of time. Police officers don't have to be shot at first to return fire or to stop the threat period.
And officers are trained. Don't look at someone's hips or their knees, or their feet or their eyeballs, look at their hands. Why would an eighteen year old. Of course I've heard this argument too from the left. He had the right it's an open carry state. Well, you can't possess a handgun in Ohio under the age of twenty one. But that point to the side. What is the motive or purpose of having an extended mag on a nine millimeter in the hands of an eighteen year old illegally?
What's the purpose of the magazine extended?
I assume, well, I know what that part is, so you can have more bullets fire. Yeah, the extended magazine so you can you can instead of having list. I'm just making a point. Instead of having eight shots, maybe you have sixteen and with a nine milimeter. It doesn't matter what caliber the gun is. Us the extented magazine
and say you have more shops to fire. And when you're running with a gun away from the police, the police does not have to And when you're in if you're in fear of your life, which police officers are at risk every day, it's none of it's good with these handguns. And where did he get the handgun? Who supplied the handguns? That'll come out maybe later. You have to assume either somebody gave the gun, they stole the gun,
they bought it somewhere at a flea market. Probably maybe a stolen gun, don't know, might belong to a family member. Don't know that, but we will know because we have the gun, we had the magazine. And it's a terrible tragedy. But you shouldn't point guns at the police. You shouldn't be being chased by the police. And the police have to defend their they don't have to wait for you to pull a gun.
Shoot there.
Yeah, the return.
Fire, that's what the left says. You have to wait to see what his intent was well, I think his intent was obvious from the beginning. He had every opportunity to save his own life and to save the life indirectly of Chief of Deputy Larry Henderson, and every decision made by Ryan Hinton, the eighteen year old boy was the wrong decision that cost his life. And the fact the officer was put in that situation, his life's never going to be different for the rest of his life.
And his name's not out there yet, but nonetheless, at some point it's going to get out there. He'll have to testify in court. Marcy's law means you don't have to release the name, but at some point the name's out there. I'm told by those at CPD he's extremely well respected. I'm told he's been he's been a cop for many, many years. He's had no other shoot incidents whatsoever.
And he found himself within two seconds of gun gun gun to a life and death situation, the result of which might have been his murder and the murder of
his fellow cops. I was told by one knowledgeable person that he had ability to have twenty two shots fired in a period of about five seconds, almost like a machine gun, and the person that made this happen was Ryan Hinton, and the person who murdered Larry Henderson was Rodney Hinton, the thirty eight year old who, according to Prosecutor County Pillage, waited in the turn lane for traffic to clear. He had time to clear his own head to think about do I really want to do this?
He saw one police officer by himself, operating a traffic device to assist moms and dads and boys and girls to cross the street for UC graduation. He specifically murdered Larry Henderson in cold blood, and he waited till the traffic declared to make sure he had a clear shot at him. They've checked out the accelerator of the vehicle.
It's fully operational. There was no skid marks. And so the person in charge of this entire series of events is one on only Ryan Hinton, and right now he's probably burning in hell for what he did.
Hey, listen, this this whole thing is a mess. But I know the Cincinnati Police Department. They train and they trains some of the most well trained police officers in the entire country. And I can say that for a fact, they train, train, train, and uh, the police Department and Cincinnati. They have a right to go home every night. Yes, you sent point done that you can't shoot at him. And they so there heroes. They risked their lives every day. And it all started when this guy, eighteen year.
Old had the gun.
I must run him with it with a fool magazine and you hesitate, you die. E Temple had listen, had no choices, none wants or whatever. But the woman that ran and killed Larry, he waited like somebody hiding in the roots, like a coward, and where didn't have a chance, and accelerated in a car and ran over him and killed him. And now he wants sympathy and he will not get that. He will not get that for me. He's been in my jail before, and he's been in
Butler County. He's been arrested, he's been here, should have been in prison, but he wasn't. And these people get out of prison way too early. And this person is no more than a cold blood at murder that's murdered a police officer and should get the full extent of the law, which includes the death.
County sheriff. We got to run. But Rodney Hinton spent time with you the murderer thirty eight years old. We got to run, Sheriff. Thanks for your great participation in law enforcement. Stay safe and give my best all the many women the Butler County Sheriff's Department. Sheriff, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you Sheriff, Thank you, sir, God pleasure. Let's continue with more.
Rodney Hinton, a known criminal spending time in the Butler County jail before he murdered in cold blood Larry Henderson. Bill cunninghams Radio seven hundred WW by Billy Cunningham. Very emotional Friday afternoon in the Tri State. Coming up after one o'clock today will be a representative of the Catholic League about Leo the fourteenth, Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost of Chicago, talk about that after one o'clock today, looking to my left, to my right, a fallen heroes on his way to
his final resting place at Spring Grove Cemetery. And there are hundreds or thousands of Cincinnatians standing outside their homes saluting in silence the passing of the casket of Deputy Larry Henderson, who gave us life for you and me in ways that many of us find quite admirable to
give your life for another. A wise man once said that no greater love than this, And someone lay down their life for their friends, for their family, for their country, and that's certainly a life in times of Larry Henderson.
And I would note that the casket to my left is approaching Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard where he was murdered by Rodney Hinton Junior in an active rage and unspeakable violence for which there should be a quick and rapid adjudicate, a judication, and then the death penalty should be imposed. And I know I'm gonna have on Mondyar Tuesday, Senator Bernie Marino, who wants to make the killing of a police officer, a deputy sheriff, a corrections officer a
hate crime slash capital offense under federal statutes. And it takes away from local communities the ability to, shall we say not, provide the ultimate penalty for those who commit such unspeakable acts. And I have some doubt whether or not actually there's going to be a conviction for the
death penalty for Rodney Hinton. He has a fine criminal defense attorney Clyde Bennett is going to do his best to indicate that he's suffering from mental disease would effect plus, Ohio is a relatively new statute that says that's sentencing. If you're at that point mentally ill in some way or another, you can't get the death penalty. All you can receive is life imprisonment without possibility of parole, and many might consider that to be worse than death itself.
I don't know, but nonetheless I want to give credit to Connie Pillage, our New Hamlety County prosecutor, for seeking the death penalty in this case. Whether actually twenty years from now may be imposed as another matter, when I had on Joe Dieters repeatedly on these kinds of cases, once they get to federal court after maybe three to five years in the state system, many federal judges don't want to post the death penalty on anyone, and they simply put the file on their drawer and refuse to
act on it completely. And so it's haphazardly whether death penalty can be imposed on anyone in the country. If it's ever used, it's got to be used on Rodney Hinton junior thirty eight years old, who purposely killed someone representing law and order. Also, this should be in a sense of hate crime. He wasn't killed because his name was Larry Henderson. He was killed because he wore the uniform and this person wanted to kill a cop. We can sort out the insanity defense later, which is quite
unlikely to be successful, but who knows. And on that front, A couple of years ago, a vicious, cold blood murderer named Chad Dorman in Claremont County brutally executed his own three children seven, four and three years old, three little boys, Clayton,
Hunter and Chase. Prosecutor Clairemont County didn't want to go through the difficulties and the problems of seeking the death penalty for Chad Dorman, so he got life imprisonment without possibility of parole times three, which means we're going to support him for the next thirty to forty years as he watches football games, get three square meals to day, et cetera. And that's the way it is. So I hope that when this case comes up for trial, probably
next year sometime, that the jury convicts Rodney Hinton. There's no question who done it. This isn't who did it. We know who did it and why he did it. We know why he did it. He wanted revenge against police. And a little bit of news was made a few minutes ago when Richard K. Jones said that Rodney Hinton's thirty eight years old, has spent time in the Butler County jail. We were led to believe by some he
had deminimus previous criminal record. I don't know. That doesn't mean you get two or three bites of the apple. When you purposely and cold blood intentionally kill a police officer unconnected to the squabbles in your own life and just kill because he represents something, that person should get the death penalty within three to five years. If you kill a federal official like Oklahoma City but McVeigh, guess what he's executed within five years. They said, a hell
with it. You kill a federal official, we're gonna take care of you rapidly. That's not the way it works. And I have hopes that justice will be done, but that doesn't bring back the life of Larry Henderson, his lovely wife, five children, grandchildren. He was a foster parent, adopting two more kids, who, by the way, were African American, but that's a secondary issue. No one could have led
a better life when I had on Chrmaine McGuffey. The other day, she wanted to promote Larry Henderson repeatedly, but he did not want to be promoted. He wanted to be on the front lines. About twenty years ago he was awarded by side LEAs and Sean Donovan and the Medal of Valor, which is similar to the Medal of Honor for the activities he did in saving a woman's life. He spent his whole life on the swat team. That's dangerous, the dive team, that's dangerous. How about bomb squad, now
that's dangerous. Thirty three years he retires with the thanks of a great city, in a grateful country, in a grateful county, and then it takes the activities of Rodney Hinton to murder him in cold blood. So if he doesn't get the death Company, then damn it, we shouldn't have one. And I wouldn't note that. At the funeral proceedings of the Cintas Center. Looking to my left, right now the casket carrying the remains of Larry on Victory
Parkway slowly going toward head to Heaven Cemetery. President were side Lease, the legendary ninety two year old sheriff of him in the county. He was in a wheelchair or a walker, and also with him was Sean Donovan, his chief deputy for like twenty five or thirty years. Also president was Charmaine McGuffey, who spoke so highly of Larry and his family and his service. Also president with Jay Gramkey, the chief deputy under Charmaine, and also Chris Ketman was there,
who's the new chief deputy. So this wasn't political at all. They came out because they love this guy, this person who touched so many. So it's with profound sadness. Reminded me in a sense what happened with police officer Sonny Kim who was lowered to a side in Madisonville and killed by someone murdered because he wanted to kill a cop,
similar to what happened here with Larry. Suspicable, unbelievable, and somehow we must find in ourselves the realization that police officers wearing a badge all too often find themselves and intractable difficult circumstances, not of their making, which arise extremely quickly. You might recall that Charmaine McGuffey said that from start
to finish, this entire event took about six seconds. From start to finish, the police roll up and they're looking for thieves, crooks, miscreants, and all, all of a sudden, four vacate the Kia. One took a gun with him and one of the officers saw him drop the gun on the pavement, stumbled and pick it back up. And you know, in law enforcement, when you hear the words gun, gun, gun, your weapon comes out. You're in a life and death
struggle from that point on. And somehow we must allow officers to space to do their jobs while holding the sum accountable for difficulties or wrongful use of force. But that is extremely rare, and we have to stop acting as if the use of force is somehow automatically misconduct until the officer proves it isn't. And we have to stop criticizing those who are sworn to protect us and
making life and debt decisions. There's an entire elements of the so called civil rights crowd who become multi multi millionaires by uh perpetrating a fraud, a lie upon the American people that semol police in the so called black communities at loggerheads, which they're not, and that often you have very civil rights divisions of government that bring into government those who have been complaining about police misconduct and pay them big salaries to calm things down. And that's
not the way it ought to be. You should not support law enforcement only when there's a funeral of a cop, but support it to twenty four to seven accept in those very rare circumstances in which there's a bad, shall I say, an unjustified shooting. I hate to use the term whether it's good or a bad shooting, they're all bad. It's bad, of course for the person the criminal that caused it to occur, and it's bad for the officer who must take someone's life and be stigmatized for the
rest of his or her career. I call it justified or unjustified shooting. As soon as these things happen automatically, there is a pro test signs going up at the Amley County Justice Center. Normally they're white educated females, much like at Columbia and which white educated females think they have the answers to all the questions in life, holding up signs even yesterday about racist cops shooting black men. According to The New York Times, not exactly a conservative publication.
Of the one thousand deaths every year committed and which officers kill someone, as far as racer is concerned, it's fifty percent black and eighteen percent I'm sorry, fifty percent white and eighteen percent black. The great majority of people shot by police are white, and as far as they really questionable ones, it's down to something like ten to fifteen total out of one thousand shootings. It's very rare, extremely rare. And what it happens, the cops are always
held to account. Oh he'll do account. It's almost as if the mob, the mob, the mob, oocracy must be satisfied. As soon as these things happened, the protest comes out, screaming, hollering and shouting, pay me off, give me money. And that's the goal of these white, generally educated females that have nothing better to do in their miserable lives than act as if what they're saying is important when it is not.
So.
Once again, uh, police officers right now are pulling people over on speeding charges, serving Warrens doing whatever. There's a certain passivity, there's certain reticence now of police officers to be active in their policing because of the difficulties that
one encounters himself for herself. In the four officers who went to the scene of this theft of a Kia from Edgewood, Kentucky that was tracked to that parking lot of Nice Price Hill, had no idea they would quickly be in a life and death struggle, had no idea that their lives put in a paper bag and shaken
for the next several years. And I am confident at some point that Michael Wright, the attorney from the Cochrane Law Firm my head on a few days ago, ultimately, when things settled now, is going to sue the City of Cincinnati for wrongful police actions because he thinks he can prove that the barrel of the gun was not directly pointed at the police officer at the time the
eighteen year old boy, Ryan Hinton was shot. He thinks you can prove that, and to me, that's irrelevant, completely irrelevant. It takes, according to Rob Sanders, about a quarter of a second to have a loaded gun in your right hand, pointed in one direction to quickly point it in a different direction a quarter of a second, which is a length length of time. It takes the blink one's eye.
And I didn't want this cop to take a shot to his head or neck or legs to kill him before he ends the threat to his fellow officers and to himself. And I'm confident that at some point, if the City of Cincinnati is consistent in what they do, they may even pay off the estate of Ryan Hinton some money. Who's going to pay back Larry Henderson and his family? Where's that money gonna come from. We're going to spend millions and millions of dollars on prosecuting Rodney
Hinton Junior. And I'm sure Clyde Bennett's going to do a great job. Maybe confuse one or two jurors, and that's a consequence, maybe have trial after trial after trial. But the first time out, Connie Pillich's the new prosecutor, is doing the right thing by seeking the death penalty, and I pray down the road it might be imposed,
not in my lifetime, maybe yours. Let's continue with more and the procession as I speak, is now heading towards Spring Grove Avenue in the Spring Grove Cemetery where there'll be other funeral proceedings and then if we put the
rest in his grave. As all the activities involving State of Ohio versus Rodney Hinton continue to work themselves through the court and the estate of Ryan Hinton will eventually file lawsuits against the City of Cincinnati and put these Cincinnati cops through a living hell split second, frame by frame, frame by frame. It's what Michael Wright said, the civil attorney. We're going to break it down, frame by frame to
see if we can find something this cop did wrong. Well, good luck, let's continue with more and later on today after one o'clock will be Catholic leagues Michael McDonald about the ascendancy of a cardinal from Chicago who, by the way, was a registered Republican and his brother said, growing up on the South Side of Chicago, they were white Sox fans. That was a serious mistake in judgment. But nonetheless, he speaks five languages well, and his native language is English.
And when he comes to America maybe in a year or two or three after, you can't play upon your American roots. That's not considered good. In the rest of the world. I think it is. He's called the least American cardinal. I think that's a criticism, not a compliment, around the world. If you're the least American cardinal, that's objectable, objectionable, that's a problem. But nonetheless, we have an American Pope,
which is unbelievable. We have the Olympics here, we have the Soccer World Cup is here, we have Donald Trump and the White House here. Now we have the Pope here. It's unbelievable. Let's continue twelve fifty six, Home of your Rads, losing another one last night they should have won. On News Radio seven hundred that you all of you by
Billy Cunningham, the Great American. As I look to my left, the body of a hero Larry Henderson has arrived at Spring Grove Cemetery for proceedings there, and we'll be in tombs sometime later this afternoon. But as we continue, of course, as we're all well aware, yesterday the shocking news came out that we have an American pope for the first time ever. It was thought impossible for lots of reas, but Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost was elevated from his status
as a cardinal. He was only became a cardinal a couple of years years ago, and so many are a commenting whether or not he will be shall we say in the vein of Francis the First, or will he be in the vein of his two predecessors? Will he be a liberal or will he be a conservative? I would note that there is some information available that he was a registered Republican at one point, and he also was a White Sox fan, despite the protestations of the contrary.
And there are some conservative commentators like Laura Lumer. She's branding our new pope already as woke and a Marxist, which is a blasphemy in my viewpoint. But a man who set the record straight is Michael McDonald the Catholic League of New York City and Michael McDonald, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Mike, let's talk about what happened yesterday about twelve fifteen, twelve
twenty in the afternoon Eastern time. Described the level of shock that you felt when the Cardinals picked an American pope.
Yeah.
Bill, it's great to be with you. This is a tremendous moment in American history. I mean, you look around Cardinal prevos now folk Leo the fourteenth wasn't really on anyone's like top five lists. Yeah, you'd see him as like on a couple of these lists is, oh, there's actually another American cardinal. He's actually down in Peru, runs giously down there, and he's over in Rome now, but we all forget about him. So, you know, this guy kind of came out, not necessarily out of nowhere, but
definitely not in anyone's top five lists. And I mean, I guess we do live in the age of Donald Trump. I guess the Vatican was worried about getting the tariffs so they bought American I don't know, but this is this is you know, a tremendous earthquake and a good thing, and a good thing like this is very exciting. The
American Church is very strong, very vibrant. You know, you go to particularly these churches that offer the Latin masks that are much more closer to the tradition of what the church is always taught and always believed in, and they're very vibrant. There's young families with kids. I mean, the church my wife and I go to with our our kid is like that. There's a lot of young
kids there. You know, you're not seeing so many of the gray haired types that you're see in some of these more like boomer churches that just sort of do let's feel good. So this is a good moment for that. Well, we'll have to see how he governs. You know, there's a lot of question marks on that. But this is the first day on the job that there are signs that people that are hoping for more of a return tradition could be excited about. And then there's other things
that might might cause a little bit of heartburn. But we'll just have to see. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. He hasn't just been on the job for twenty four hours, so let's let's see what he can do.
Michael McDonald, I'd look at some point. I guess he can't do it in the first year or two, but at some point, Leo the fourteenth is going to tour America. I can only imagine when he comes here and you have a pope speak of the English. So well, who was a white Sox fan in Chicago growing up. According to his brother, of course, now the Cubs are claiming him. The Cubs have a sign up out of Wrigley Field. He's a Cubs fan, but his brother said, we grew up on the South Side as white Sox fans who
spent like twenty years as a missionary in Peru. I completely lost touch with him. And then he's plucked down and may use the term obscurity by a pontiff to come eventually worked his way up from the bottom of Rome to picking the archbishops all around the world. And I would think from that circumstance, I don't know what the title was, but he was the guy advising the Pope Francis who to make an archbishop, including the new one we have here in Cincinnati from Chicago, and I
would think he was uniquely qualified. But for the fact he was born in America and he was called the least American of the cardinal cardinals, of all the cardinals here, was that an insult or accomplishment?
You know?
Accomplishment accomplishment?
Yeah, I think it depends on who you talk to in terms of the least American of the American cardinals. I think that's not necessarily a wrong take, but I do think that you know that there is something to be said, particularly what we really needed Pope Francis. I'm not trying to do like the cadavers in it back in the seven hundreds and when we're taking up to
the old pope to lamb bassed him. But some of his moral teachings were a little lacking in clarity to be to be nice about it, he you kind of wondered sometimes about the people around him, if they if their hearts were in the right place. And yeah, uh, Popolio the fourteenth has a great story to tell.
Uh.
You know, he felt really called to do missionary work. He joined the Augustinians, which traces their lineage back to Saint Augustine back in antiquity. Uh so this is an established order. The most, they're a lot smaller than they used to be. I mean, probably the last big member that they had the people would be familiar with Martin Luther and we know how that turned out. But in terms of Pope Lio the fourteenth himself, as Cardinal Privos,
he went down to uh Lima dance Brew. He did a lot of missionary work in there, in remote villages up in the Andes. Uh and you know that's there's something nice to see, especially as a Catholic is someone that's deeply in love with their faith. I mean, yesterday, uh, he's just stopped and said to hail Mary, uh, which is a good sign for traditionalists. A strong Marian devotions something that you want to keep an eye out for.
And so just in terms of love for the Church, love for Christ, he seems to be starting off on the right foot on that and sending a very strong message that that's going to be the center of his pontificate. And if you look at his first homily today, very strong on that issue as well, in which he's talking about the world needs to the world needs the Church really to bear witness to Christ. Christ is the son of God who came to earth to die and save
us from sin. Not just this nice guy that said nice things and gave out little platitudes and had some fun sayings, but actually the pathway to salvation. And so I think there's a lot to be optimistic about.
Each side wants to claim him your story. The Bill Donnau's on the Catholic League website says that Orthodox Catholics will be happy to learn that Leo the Fourteenth is strongly pro life. He opposes abortion, thank god, euthanasia assists at suicide. He also goes on to say he believes in property rights, which Marxists do not believe in. He's also made the case for private property, which is hardly
an expression of socialism. He's also spoke about immigration in ways that gives a lot of comfort to shall I say, liberals, how do you explain him going after jd Vance in a sense a couple months ago in which the Cardinals said on X that quote jd Vance is wrong. Jesus does not ask us to rank our love for others quote unquote. Now, liberals thought, okay, that's good. He's going
after jd Vance. Conservatives think, well, that's good. He's pro life, that healthy babies inside the bodies of healthy mothers should be allowed to live and not be killed in the womb. But as far as the issue of him kind of going after jd Vance, your reaction to that.
Yeah, that's that is h especially you know, we're just talking about him being in the Justinian That concept actually comes from Saint Augustine, that that there is ranked above Uh so.
There is uh yeah, there's definitely uh some some concerns that politically he may not be on the same footing as JD.
Vance. Okay, I understand that. I mean it's great.
Uh.
You know, we just had a Catholic president in this country, allegedly Catholic president of the country that uh, there was a fortune he could justify. Okay, he pulled the rosary out of his pockets every once in a while, but couldn't I couldn't do anything in sept with the actual teachings of the Catholic Church.
Uh.
So you know, it's nice to have actually, uh a person like JD. Vance as a Catholic to actually get up there and so actually the Catholic Church has these notions. They're ancient, but you know, we should practice them. And that's that's very refreshing to have somebody in public life that actually takes their faith seriously, uh and can speak to it with a high degree of authority. You just looked at the JD. Vance and he sounds like he knows what he's talking about because he does.
Uh.
That's that's that's a huge thing to have, particularly for lay people like oh, look, here's somebody that isn't a presets out there putting his faith into action, living it out daily, uh, and making that the backbone of his public policy. That's a great thing to see. And yeah, I would hope I would hope that you know, now that maybe the political climate has changed in Rome, we can look at these things a little bit more clearly. And so actually that would be a benefit to the church.
People that are not ordained, that are able to live out their faith and express a faith, and they that brings more people to the faith in or at least inspire the people that are already in the faith to actively without their faith.
I would note that JD. Vance, who was non religious, converted to Catholicism at my church, Saint Gertrude's and Madera. He's a practicing a Roman Catholic. Now, I would point out the art your article says, quote is Popely of the fourteenth a Republican, a Democrat, or an independent. Well, he's a Republican, a registered Republican in Illinois, which is
hard to be a Republican in Illinois. In Chicago. He pulled the Republican lever in twenty twelve, twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen, apparently did not vote in the twenty sixteen, but chose to vote by absentee in twenty twenty four. It appears he's more of a Bush Republican than a Trump Republican, but he's certainly not woke or a Marxist activist, and
so each side is pulling him. And I would imagine living in Italy, which is socialist in Europe, extremely socialist, the gravitational poll is going to be to the left as opposed to the right. But the Christ is neither Democrat nor Republican, liberal nor conservative, left nor right, not blue nor red. He cares for all people all the time, and salvation is at the heart of what the Christ has preached, and so I would I would anticipate that. Can you imagine what happens in a year or two
when he has stadium tours inside this country. What's going to happen.
I think it's going to be the bigger than when Pope John Paul the second year over here now Saint Kik Pope John Paul the second big I think it's I think it's gonna be bigger than that, just you know, the Poke Jon Paul the second hugely charismatic figure. But it is something to be said about having a native son in the role of the papacy, that that's just
hugely inspirational. I think again, depending on as we were talking about before, how closely he works in the tradition, and there are some things that do speak to him being a little bit more traditional. There's something speaking them be a little bit more on the reformist side of the equation. But depending on how he plays that into
his Rangela, let's see how that plays out. I think if you see somebody that is willing to let traditional Catholics express their love for Jesus the way that they have for centuries from millennia, I think then you see a massive outpouring of love and appreciation for the pope, and you'll see a big outpouring. But again, you know I've been wrong before. It could be wrong again. Yes, I don't think this and on this stuff, but that's
what I would like to see. Anyway, Maybe that's been a wish guessing.
You know, Justice David Sooner died yesterday. It looks like many go in as conservatives to the Supreme Court to come out as liberals. I can't recall a circumstance for a liberal when in the US Supreme Court came out a conservative. Things only go one direction, and it would be amazing. But one great sentence or two you have in your ca lee call him today quote. If some progressives who wanted Francis or second are not expressing this main public, don't be fooled is because they want to
have entraded to the new pope. The left exists for one thing, power and they are masters are deceiving. People that looks like practicing Roman Catholics today will having Pope Leo the fourteenth someone they can rally around. And so those are your last comments. And I'm thinking, well, we'll
see what happens in the future. But if this pope stays firm on life issues, if we can all agree that there's difficulties and pregnancies all the time, but can we at least agree that a healthy baby inside the body of a healthy mother should be born and the rest of it can be dealt with through special legislation or adoption, whatever it might be. And if he switches and allow women to become priest or or priest to marry, which wouldn't be as radical, then we're going to have issues.
You don't see him breaking with tradition, do you, and having women become priest or somehow supporting abortion on demand, you see that happening. If that would happen, the Catholic Church would crumble.
Yes. No, and you're right on that. And on terms of the Ordained Women Ministry, nonsense. He's actually been very vocal on that. In that you the Synod on sitidelity last year, he did condemn that very vigorously. So that's
a good sign on that front. And in terms of his American politics, you know, as far as you can map any sort of prelate of the Catholic Church into American politics, he has been very much on the pro life side of just that every single vote primary, all these things, and he's spoken very forcefully in defensive life and just real quick bill, fun little fact. Yes, on the US Supreme Court, you don't tend to see a
lot of people moving from left to right. But interestingly enough, Pope Leo the thirteenth in the eighteen hundreds was elected because the cardinals thought that Popius the ninth was too conservative. Let's get somebody in there that's a little bit more liberal minded. And he actually went even further to the right on a lot of issues than pop Pious to nine. So this does happen in the particularly in the church.
I actually Popious the ninth another one, was viewed as a liberal and then became much more conservative when he became pope. And Benedict the sixteenth another one. Some of his writings were not like super hardcore tread Catholic, but then when he became pope, he's like, you don't what I'm bringing back to Latin mass So just because we have a body of work, that doesn't necessarily mean that's how he's going to govern.
Well, this is a special time to be an American and we have the Olympics are here, the World Cup is here, Donald Trump is here, and the Pope is here. I mean, if somebody had made that bet a few years ago, i'd bet against it. I don't see an American pope. He's the least American of all the cardinals in America, which I think is a criticism, not a compliment. But we'll see. But once again, Catholic League dot org, Catholic League dot org. Great columns up and we'll see
what the next twenty years bring. And Michael, for the first time in my life, we have a pope that's younger than me, so that's remarkable. My sister died redd and seven because popes are old, and I'm thinking, well, hell, maybe i'm old. I'm not sure. You know, I'm seventy seven, but hell, I feel like thirty seven most of the time. But nonetheless, I got a pope younger than me, so I know I'm getting old. But Michael McDonald Catholic League dot org is the website, great stuff. And once again,
God bless Leo the fourteenth. He's got Pete Rose's number fourteen. There's that number again, fourteen, and that's another good sign. But we'll see what happens the next twenty years. And Michael McDonald, Catholic League, thanks again for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show this Friday day afternoon. Thank you very much.
Thanks Billing, You're great, America.
God bless you. Let's continue with more. Looking at my left, the proceedings with with the fallen Deputy Henderson is preceding Spring Grove Cemetery an extremely somber occasion. Let's continue with more one twenty seven Home of your Reads, hopefully a Winter game tonight in Houston. Last night was awful on news radio seven hundreds WLW all the the projects.
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How do you lead the world in his mental condition? I don't know what did he just say?
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How do you lead the world with having that busin instruction?
How was that? Yeah?
We did?
Did we dodge a bullet that time segment? What about the eulogs we watched?
To tell you what, Willie, Deputy Anderson's probably looking down going, wow, all the fuss was over me.
It's more important than I thought I was. Yeah, just uh, just.
The way people have talked about that, that's that deputy and everything else. They must have been a great guy and a great dude. And uh man, you're talking about the law enforcement showing up.
They're still they're still coming into the cemetery from every state. Yeah, and seg right now, I mean. Charmie McGuffey, the sheriff, told me that he was on a supervisor of the dive team and would go into the Ohio River at the bottom and training exercises, feeling around. Then he took off his dive stuff and went to the swat team and after that he after that a bomb squad, bomb squad to disarm IEDs. And what guy did at all? What kills him? Yeah? Hinton thirty eight years old, and
many said he didn't see it coming. He was working the traffic control devices to help people walk across the street. Unbeknownst to him, Rodney Hinton was preparing to kill a cop. Why isn't this a hate crime? Someone sent me a text. Because he killed him, not because his name was Larry Henderson. He killed him because of what he represented. Isn't that a hate crime? I would say so, and we'll see what happens. But if he's ever executed for this, I'd
be surprised. You and I won't be around to see it. It'll take fifteen or twenty years, and I'm not sure you and I have fifteen or twenty years.
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You know, one of my favorite rock groups are the Eagles? Did they? Are they playing in Milford sometime soon? I'm not sure Don Henley's going to be there, isn't he? And Joe Walsh don't forget Yeah, let's see Drake Baldwin's RBI single in the eleven. Braves got by the Rems last night five to four. The Red Legs dropped three of four in the at L. They're zero and four an extra inning game so far, four and seven and one run games.
There's the key right there. Three signs gives the Reds a two run lead with a two run bomb, So for Ice Sally Glacias in the top of the ninth four to two lead, but then Atlanta forces that extra innings. Reese messed up a ball in the outfield, right, I should have caught it.
And then uh, blake done. This is unbelievable. This is not reviewable.
I mean Ozzie Alby's loss seriously blocked the base, and you can't rew.
With with the knee.
The blocking situation, apparently to the baseball is not reviewable.
Everything else is except to play everything else.
That that that last night, if that, if that wasn't, I mean, that's that's quite a reviewable place. If you can't review, why do you have Why do you have replay anyway? You can't throw it out review and knee against it, you can't review.
Yeah, blocking the base, he's got like a quarter of the base.
No, there's no way they continue tonight against the Astros in Houston.
Keep going six oh.
Five, Sports Talk, seven to ten, r NOL carriers, inside pitch eight, ten, first pitch tonight.
Keep going segments. All you can do is keep fighting ace pitching, ace runter green grade one growing stream. Does that mean I got one? Right now?
He is likely to be placed on the i L sometime soon. Looks like he'll miss at least one start, maybe two.
I looked online two to three weeks for a grade one growin strud There you go, right there, i'verained.
Well, he's basically almost done then through the month of May. Right No, I had to add an extra start to it, just to make sure. Bengals update brought to you by Good Spirits and Party Town with third locations in Northern Kentucky. Bengals holding a one day rookie mini camp today is it Zach Taylor today?
Meeting with the media. No problem.
No problem with Joe Burrow missing Monday's workout due to him attending the met gallap What about his fashion sense, Well, he did intended anything to say about that.
That about his hairstylists.
No update on the Trey Hendrickson contract talks from the head coach, but.
The ESPN is reporting there are discussions being held despite the protestations. Much like the Belichick story. I'm ready to go with that big time because according to the forre, they said they banned her, banned Jordan from the place. Then then they say nah ba nah, I guess she's back in. Pablo Torre says she was banned, and then U n C comes out with a statement saying, hold up on that car, wise, gentlemen, these are golf she's our football coaches. Muse, what's have you ever had a
I know you? And Sarah Elise is your muse? No, because the muse has got to be there because of the Belichick brand. I don't even know how to spell that. What does segment have a brand?
You need a muse was a brand like shoes and shirts and stuff.
I don't know.
All I'm saying is u NC is defending Jordan that that that is it that is going to write down disaster road right here?
Can we see what's you're like?
You're like about halfway when we see what's coming just over the hill, and you're headed right here. We see what's coming here? Yeah, why can't but nobody else? Why can't Belichick see this? Because we're smarter than him?
Really? I like Lackey Boyman's idea. He's been so sequestered for so many decades.
He finally gets free and goes nuts correct. Top draft picked Shamar Stewart not working out on the sideline today during the camp. He's not signed, along with second round pick linebacker Demetrius Knight.
What you know there?
They are both Bengals have signed four picks. Stewart and Knight are the only two unsigned. So they didn't work out.
Why is that? Well, they're still talking about the dough, the ray and the me.
How much dough and how much? I have no idea. I tell you one thing. He better get a lot more money for four and a half sacks.
You know it's a lot.
Maybe pay him about four grand and see if he can get five to get get a fifth sack after what three years in college?
Is he that good? I hope? So he better be.
There's another one this basketball Cincinnati. The Bearcats nearing an agreement on a two year scheduling agreement with.
Whom the Louisville Cardinals.
I like that those two teams that were major rivals years ago. Willie and the old Metro Conference, remember that, yes, I do. Twenty twenty five contests would be held at the Heritage Bank Center, and then twenty twenty six and Louisville's Freedom Hall. They're going back to the confines. I like that, Louisville Bearcats and Cardinals. Haven't played each other since the twenty twenty two to twenty three season.
Good, it's about time they get together. Let's give How about my all time classic at Christmas time? You see Xavior Miami and NKU. Sounds good to be a holiday classic. Why not play two games they play each other and then play a championship double header. Dave Lapham says, no, no, okay. How about Tyrese Haliburton of Indiana Pacers. Have heard this story? Now what he do? Twenty has three against the Celtics, Ye win game two. He made a move with his
two hands that indicated he had large testicles. He put his hands shall we say low, and that is a forbidden sign by the NBA. You can't advertise the fact the size of your festicles. So now Tyrese Halliburton is facing a fifty thousand dollars fine forgetting his I thought he was dancing around or something, but he put his.
Hands down there as if he had large festicles. And he's going to be fine. What he made that shot?
He does? Well, if you do that, I'll pay the fifty grand thank you. That's it. But Tyrese Halliburton is his dad going to be at the game. I don't think so that.
I mean, why do you go out on the court and get into it with the tallest guy in the world and you're not nosed to nose with Giannis, he's like fifty years.
Not nose to nose, nose to belly, belly button. Yeah, and he's yelling that yeah. I got he's seven forty. That could pick him up.
And the swish and could hit him right on top of the head and drive him in like in the grol like a nail.
Yeah.
Before we get to that last story, I've had this thought in my head about a large male silver backed gorilla fighting one hundred grown men. You know, we used to have the silver backs here in soccer until indoors sars killed one, didn't he? I don't think so. But anyway, and according to this one side I went to that the bite of a large male gorilla is twice as strong as a pit bull, I would say, so he can take a coconut and put in his mouth and
eat it like a jelly bean. So I'm thinking, who's going to volunteer to be one of those one hundred guys? Would you? No? But who'd you take a hundred grown men or one gorilla. I'm going with the big g Those are things I lay at night. I lay a weeks sleeping in these scenarios.
I'm glad somebody does the Bengals get We'll get an early notification on whether they're going to play across the Pond and Madrids, the Dolphins in Espagna, and the National Football League is set to release the schedule of international games Tuesday, and the full schedule comes out Wednesday. Now, this is from Jay Morrison of the Athletic in regards to the new Pope, Leo the fourteenth has a tie in with the Bengals. What yeah, Pope, Yes, let's get
him here. The last two times the new Pope was elected, in twenty five and twenty thirteen, the Bengals won the AFC North. Really, yep, it's on the pope. So the Pope is not the Cubs said he's a Cubs fan. His brother says, nah bah banah, he's a White Sox fan. Now, the Pope Leo the fourteenth has a connection with the Cincinnati Bengals.
Who who they? Who they think gonna beat them? Bengals recently has been everybody but the Cardinals are picking a Cubs fan, the Cardinals St. Louis or the College from the College of Cardinals. Yeah, because and then he's a Chicagoan who goes to Peru for twenty years to be a missionary, and and and.
They love him down there, so they think he's but that's all right. I mean he speaks, he's speaking the English. And then and I guess his relative said at age five or six, some relative of his says, you're going to become the next pot. You're going to be a pope one day. That's what his brother said. It's like, you know, an altar boy.
He said, you're gonna be And he looked up and said, a rod de frontest.
You know you put that picture out of you being an altar boy. You could have been the Pope.
Can't say, wouldn't that be Pope Willie the First? Wouldn't that be? Would that be something walked down in this balcony? Because I guarantee you one thing, you would be the Pope. Plus you'd be doing this show all this time. I'll make you a cardinal.
I already with Cole Rain MLS soccer FC Cincinnati hosting Austin FC tomorrow it TQL Stadium, seven o'clock on ESPN fifteen.
Thirty down in dirty segment. These are consequential times, would you agree? You're not kidding? And by the way, the Pope voted Republican in twenty twelve, twenty fourteen, twenty ten, he did not vote in twenty sixteen, and he voted absentee in twenty twenty four So what does this mean? Did he vote for Trump or Kamala the Headhunter? Which one? I don't know. Let's find out.
Sure they'll find out, but always find out everything about it.
Everything.
Imagine that though, Pope, you're ten, you're six years old, you're sitting in that room.
You're going to be a pope.
You're one hundred and thirty, one hundred and thirty three cardinals. Right, they just start talking and all of a sudden, Pope, will you accept nomination? You must answer?
Now? Can I think about that? Williat otter? A beautiful day here in the tri State, the nation, and the world.
We leave you with the immortal words of the Stood Report.
That was a ted Lasso reference. But you never got into that show, though, did you?
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Do they shoot people in that.
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He likes to see blood like Tyrese Halliburton. Where's this dad going to be for the next game? And Indianapolis? Are those huge fifty thousand dollars fine for Tyrese? On seven hundred WLW by Billy cunning in the Great America And looking to my left on the power of five Channel five and the final salute to a fallen deprety is occurring, John and you and I now from near the scene is a Brian Hamrick of Channel five and Brian Hamrick, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Brian,
can you kind of set the scene? You've covered these things as I have, fortunately less and less times we have in the past, but can you set the stage as to what the community did outpulling of love for Deputy Sheriff Henderson.
But I forget mister Cunningham. Yeah, you know, this has been this procession has been going on and the funeral still happening now at Spring Grove, but it you know, it's it's been up to Anderson Township through Cincinnati and where I was was right at the very scene where Officer Henderson was hit and killed. H and the procession passed right by there, and the procession was there at the very moment one week later that he was hit
and killed. We saw, I mean, there were departments from all over the region that were part of this procession. It went twenty maybe twenty five minutes. I was told, maybe five miles of procession led with Hamilton County. The hearts came through, but we saw, you know, departments from all over the region, you know, like Morrow, Lebanon, Blanchester, Clear Creek. Then in northern Kentuck we had Florence, Boone County, Independence,
Campbell County. I mean, it's just to name a few u and they went, you know, even further out, and of course all the local ones that were you know, of Hamilton County all were represented. And then not only that, but in addition, these other departments from around the region are also filling in because they wanted every single Hamilton County deputy who wanted to to be part of this, So all these other departments that were around pitched in.
I was up at Springdale yesterday talking to them, and they were one of the departments that were going through cold rain, Like every department in the in the county did this and they just take on shifts and said, we'll cover this area, we'll cover that area, and it's just like a mutual weight kind of thing, only they're over there doing this during this funeral and procession and all of this event today, uh and as of yesterday
as well. And it was interesting because I was talking to folks at Springdale and they're like, you know what, we know what it's like to be on the other side, because they had their officer Kyah Grant, remember back in twenty twenty.
She was throwing.
Stopsticks and the guy swerved and hit her, and they said, you know, we know what it's like to be on that end. And it's really a huge feeling, you know, to have this this backup, to have these these other departments show you that we're here for you, we got your back. And so so that's what's happening really all around the area now, not just a procession and just to show there, but the show that you're not going to see out in the county where all the Sheriff's
deputies would normally be patrolling. You've got all these departments who are out there as well. And it was a big day, you know, for to show the respect and the support for Deputy Henderson. You know, I mean, this is the things that were said. I'll tell you it was one of the most powerful eulogies that I think I've ever heard d Downing. I don't know if you guys had that the whole time, but that was a
powerful eulogy. He didn't shy away from anything. He talked about this car because I'm not going to speak the name of the person that was driving it, but he said the car was like a bullet that had left a barrel. Basically, he said it was looking for a target and it didn't matter who it was, what uniform, what they looked like, what the badge was, what kind of hat they wore. That he was looking for a
badge and someone in uniform to run down. So he talked about all that, and then he went on to talk about all the things about Larry Henderson, his his you know, uh, the swat team, the dive team, the metal of Valor, the foster parenting, getting ready to adopt. He had specific stories about all of these things, you know, and and and how he how he became his personality, Uh, how he would relieve other officers early like I got you, man, I got you. Now, you know, you get out of here.
I'm on the job now. You know this kind of thing, Uh, the jokes, the kind of way he interacted with you. He did a really good job of going through this whole thing. And you know, I was standing up there at the U, up there at the scene where I was exactly one week ago today, overlooking that exact things bought, where that car was sitting, where the deputy had been transported, and I thought, man, that day, it was a nice
day to start with. I know, my son graduated, so I was at that graduation in the morning that graduation was over, and the evening or the afternoon, graduation was coming in. So you had both hu graduation going out and graduation coming in. So it was really packed with vehicles. He may have been focused, you know, on that, but that's when this all happened. And it was a great
day and it was perfect weather. And then before the day was over, it was cloudy, rainy, storms, lightning, and I thought, man, that was just uh, that was just like the mood of the day.
Uh.
It was very similar.
You know, the eulogy of Lieutenant Dave Downing of c PD was incredible. He referenced the fact that that de Larry was the kind of guy that volunteered for the dangerous stuff. When I had on Charmaine McGuffey a couple of days ago, he volunteered to be on the dive team, and I said, well, I think I know what a dive team is. They would go to the Ohio River or a laker upon put on the equipment and feel at the bottom. Very dangerous, especially in the Ohio River
at the bottom. Secondly, he volunteered to be on the bomb squad to disarm explosive devices. And then he volunteered for the swat team and whatever the most dangerous thing available, Larry said, I'll do it. Choose me. And then about fifteen twenty years ago he saved a woman's life. That's how he got the medal. It's like the Medal of Honor.
The Medal of Valor awarded by Sherman Simon Lease, who knew Larry and Sean Donovan, his chief deputy, knew and trained Larry Henderson, and at the funeral side, Lease was present in a wheelchair. He is ninety two years old and extremely bad health. He said, so, I said, I got to go for Sean Donovan goes, you have charmage McGuffey is there, Jay Gramkey, the chief deputy under mcguffey's
first term, Chris Kentman the chief Departy. And then you had on top of it, New York City cops came Washington d C Comps where the Chicago Police Department was represented, And I look at this guy's life. He led it the right way. He retired in December, not quite sixty years old, leaving five kids and grandkids and foster kids alone. And he gave his life and he always took extra shifts because you know, you don't get rich being a
deputy sheriff. So he was making twenty five bucks an hour as a special deputy, and he said, I'll do that for U.
See.
I talked to Tony Pike earlier today, the quarterback for UC. He said absolutely, Larry was with us, swapping stories, protecting us on our journeys. Went to Pittsburgh and won the game there when the Big East. Larry was there and he was like part of the team. All these pictures and Larry had affinity for dangerous circumstances. He and he's murdered four months after he leaves the bomb squad, the swat team, the dive team by a murderer who simply wanted to kill him because of what he represented.
Yeah, this guy was according to police, this guy was just looking for the next badge he could find. And that's that's what happened. He was actually talking about going back and get involved in the deer program. He was talking about going back and being an SROE. Yeah, apparently he had you know, he'd done all his work here, but he and done everything he had, but he thought, you know, hey, you know what, I can still help out.
Some kids want to go out there and be a there, a there or he had gone through the dere but he said, why don't I Why don't I go back and be an SRO. I can maybe help out in the school. So yeah, that guy was something nobody ever.
You know, I met him once. I'm not sure you did, but I met him once at a sheriff's function. He was just one of those guys, a big smile on his face. He looked like Santa Claus, almost without the beard. Just a friendly guy. And I'm thinking, okay, and then I saw the picture and so many of us said
I I know that guy right there now. Now as far as what's gonna what's going to happen next, I understand that the body of the person that was killed is still not buried, because it appears that Michael Wright and also his the criminal offense attorney of the murderer, would like to have more work done on that. And uh, there will be a call for this and a call
for that. But I hope that we don't lose the feeling we have right now of the of the responsibility, the respect for law enforcement that seemingly only obviously given when there's a tragedy instead of during regular events. The last thing like this that was, of course, the the
murder of Sonny Kim. When I'm whenever I'm at to get a heavy cemetery, I go off to the right of the Bishop Alders tomb and I and I say it prayer and our father at the at the graveside of Sonny Kim, who died in a similar way, he went to a scene called there by a nine to one one operator man with a gun. He went there thinking it was a service call. He turned out murdered by a guy named Hummins. And also, of course the other one was Kia Grant, and I guess it is.
Was it ever determined on two seventy five whether that the driver of that vehicle wanted to kill a police officer or was this serving just done by mistake in.
The sense, I don't know if that was ever even established at the end of the day on that one, it was yeah, right, yeah, it was. I think he went away for a long time. You know, I actually feel good that I don't remember the name of those guys, but I remember Kya Grant, and you know, I remember them, but I cannot remember any of the killers' names. And uh, and I'm kind of glad for that, you know, because I'm like, I'm glad that doesn't even sit in my
rain and take up any space. No, I don't want to take up space and sell somewhere though.
Well, probably they're going to seek the death penalty, and if we don't have the death penalty for this kind of a case, there's no reason to have the death penalty because if you don't apply it to here. I felt the same way about Chad Dorman in Claremont County when he called in cold blood the father murdered his three children seven four and three years old prosecutor. They decided not to seek the death penalty, and I thought, well, if you don't seek the death penalty in that case,
you don't have a death penalty anymore. And I think Connie Pillacher receives our props in the beginning, at least trying to get it. Whatever happens down the road, you and I will be long gone before it's ever imposed, but we'll see what happens. But all right, once again, Brian Hemrick, it's it's one of those things you kind of stop on a dime and you're just stunned by what's happened and the way these police officers and deputy sheriffs and others are seeing off the remains of Larry Henderson.
It is remarkable for the respect and love we have for someone that many of us really never even met. It's just remarkable what law enforcement does for us, often without thanks. And I would encourage I did it last night, or happened to be somewhere the police officers there. I went up to them and said, thank you for what you do. Because you and I go to work, neither one of us think, okay, we might be killed today.
At work. Every time a cop shows up, a CEO, whatever it might be, correctioned officer, you go to work understanding you might be killed, you might be maimed. That's part of the deal. It's not part of our jobs.
Yeah, it's it's something you don't think about all the time. Anyway. You know, you get to happen to anybody anytime, you know, or time here is shorter than we we all think or wish it it was, maybe, But these guys that go out there and put themselves right on right in front of the lightning bolt every day, you know, that's a that's another you know, that's another thing. That's a
whole different, a whole different thing. Uh. And we've got you know, officers all over this town today doing exactly that. This is this full event goes through. So you know, it's it's something to think about that those folks are out there and willing to do it. In this day and age that's more and more difficult.
It gets harder and harder to recruit for these jobs. So we'll see what happens in the future. Brian Hamberger, I'm glad they're covering and looking to my left Channel five as we look, things are almost concluding. There's going to be a private ceremony for close friends and family only as he is put in the ground at Spring Grove Cemetery, and at some point.
They wanted that part more private.
And I think when you see a cop today or tomorrow, just thank them for their service and do it again to make their burdens less heavy. But once again, Brian Hamrick, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and we'll do it again, hopefully under a little less somber circumstances.
Thanks again, Luk for Cunningham.
Brian Hammer, Channel five, thank you very much. All let's continue with more. By the way, and on the political front, I would note that at this point it appears that Viveke Ramaswami's going to receive the near unanimous support of the Republican Party to be the next governor of the state of Ohio, because the vote I understand was sixty sixty one to three the Republican Party to make for ake Ramaswami, the candidate for governor coming up, and also
John Houston. I'm going to have him on with me on Monday, was unanimous and their support, so we'll see what happens, but the vote was sixty one to three for a Ake Ramaswami against the wishes of Mike Dwine and Senator John Eustad was unanimous. So we'll see what happens next and say a prayer tonight for the repose of the soul of Larry Henderson is in the arms of God Almighty. As I speak, no greater love than this than a man would lay out his life for
his friends and his family in his country. Two twenty four Home your reds. It was Radio seven hundred WLW.
Our ballpark was so bad in Fresno they condemned it at season's end. And here's the crazy part about it. We won the dang California League championship that year. We were the best team in the league. Our bus broke down when we won the championship on the way back at the dim park.
No kidding.
Oh wow, you had to wear shower shoes everywhere, otherwise your feet were gonna be eating up off the outside corner. That's ball four. So the first two batteries against may will reach. Oh I'm not kidding. I walked out of red carpet Mississippi State into Fresno California, and I.
Thought, so this is pro ball. Huh, that's what I thought.
I mean, you had I didn't even know what shower shoes were. I mean, as soon as you took your socks off or you took your shoes off, you had to put on the shoes to walk around. It wasn't didn't matter if you going to the shower or not. It was just walking around the locker room.
That's outstanding.
Oh yeah, we were playing a ball game and the fence blew down in the outfield right the middle of the game.
It's terrible.
Hello, I'm broadcasting, and it was saying I watched those games with Mississippi State with thunder and lightning, palm, arrow and Clark, and here comes a young Jeff Brantley.
I said, he's a little guy to be pitching. They did a hell of a job, should have won it all that year, but they got there. But they had a first class organization. He gets the Fresno in the minor leagues and he's thinking, defences are blowing down, we have no.
Food, no shower shoes, shot shower shower shoes, what what is the shower? I guess he walked around barefoot in Mississippi State.
Huh, I don't know. I mean for some reason I started watching ESPN at the time, and that was like forty years ago watching Mississippi State. Yeah, and they should have won it all they had all those Major League Baseball exactly didn't note at the time, and then Thunder and Lightning got separate and apart. They hated each other. But then they had like the fortieth reunion or whatever. Now Thunder and Lightning, Clark and Palm Arrow back to
the other. Bramtley's there. It's unbelievable the team they had, but they had one or two injuries and didn't make it.
Well, what we need to do is get the cowboy in here as a stooge.
He might be one afternoon.
Let's get him in there well next week or something, because he's hilarious.
Like to have Marty Brenahan talk about North Carolina and Jordan Hudson and the Rocky Boyman's not coming in because of this news that turned out not to be true. We think SI get me into the Stooge Report.
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Thank you Roxy. The Reds Update eight.
They open up a three game series up against those Astros tonight in each town. And it'll be Nick Martinez against five game winner Hunter Brown, who has a one point something eer.
A lookout, so he's pretty good.
Coverage begins six oh five Sports Talk Arnold carriers. Since I pitch at seven to ten, and then and then the game time is eight ten, no extra innings tonight, I'll come because the game's gonna last longer up to midnight.
I may come in do it just for the hell of it.
Bengals Update brought to you by Good Spirits and Party Town thirteen convenient locations in northern Kentucky. Pongo's holding a one day rookie mini camp today.
And what does that mean? Like you and I can go?
Well, most teams go Friday, Saturday, Sunday. In the past, they've done three days. I guess now it's only down to one.
Can we go try out for something?
I guess As Zach Taylor said today has no problem with Joe Burrow missing Monday's workout due to him attending the met Gala. No update on Trey Hendrickson's contract talks.
Talks are ongoing. According to Espn'll see what happens.
Top draft pick Shamar Stewart and second round selection Demetrius Knight did not work out as they are unsigned. Is that part of the deal, you get the deal done? I guess you well, I guess you know. I mean you're not signed. And what happens to get hurt? Of course, that happens around all here all the time.
If you get hurt, you gotta play. If you have a strained groin, do you keep broadcasting? I got one right now, go ahead.
College basketball Cincinnati finalizing a two year scheduling agreement to face off against the Louisville Cardinals.
I like that.
Twenty twenty five contest will take place at Heritage Bank Center.
What about Kelsey? Twenty twenty six at Freedom Hall and Louisville? What about Kelsey? He's coming in.
The two teams are major rivals, of course at the old Metro Conference, and the Tats and the Cards have not played each other since twenty twenty two to twenty three.
It'll be interesting in about seven years from all this shakes out, how many major football conferences there will be? Maybe two? Correct? And the rest of we plan for mind me of Ohio and Akron.
Uh Soccer FC Cincinnati hosting Austin FC tomorrow night. First time Austin has come into town. Austin, Austin Elmore. He's coming to see seven o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty. Now FCC is looking to sign MLS legend Key Kamara to a contract. He is the second all time leading scorer in MLS history, with one hundred and forty seven goals.
Have you heard of him? Yes? See any is he better than MESSI?
Uh?
Well, one hundred and forty seven goals? Pretty good?
How about at the second most of MLS, do we have some Coca coca?
We got Harry Harry Kane's coming to town. Where's coca?
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He's I think he retired? What about might look alike rinaldo?
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He's still playing over there?
And I think in Saudi Arabia making a lot of Jack said caucas there.
No, it's Kaka. If your name was Kaka, would you change it to ze? You keep Kaka?
Yeah?
Coca. That is, he's a he's a soccer caca.
That's you know, it's just it's it's a lou kaka sweet lips, lou lou caca.
All right, Uh, let's see.
Of course we got the story about the new University of North Carolina Jordan Hudson baby being banned.
But yay or nay, Rocky says she's banned. So I don't know, do you care? No? Good care less. According to North Carolina, she is the muse of their head coach Bill Belichick. And as you know, every man needs a muse. Fifty years his junior, I want your muse. I better not have a muse. I'd be in serious difficulty. I don't either. But nonetheless, we don't need a muse. I don't even know what that is.
I'm not sure that stand for something like news m is something US like MS thirteen something.
I mean, you gotta be some kind of muse something. It's a siren in the night. It's an inspiration segment. It's like cacaa. That's about Harry Kane. Where's Harry Kane? Or well, he's he's coming to town in like about a couple of months.
They're playing. They're playing a match down at TQL Stadium. Is his team's playing here? What about Harry Kane? Harry Cane, you see the mayor of some city in Tennessee.
Is the same guy? No, that's that's a Caine, the Big Red Machine. That's different than Harry Kane. Correct, one of those two related, The Big Red Machine and I don't know.
Harry's kind of small. A big Red Machine is big. It is tall, and the Big Red Machine was good. How about ty Resee of the Grade eight.
We've got difficulties with a Halliburton might be fine fifty thousand dollars for exhibiting a and he shall we say, a display that in the case disrespect for the game. When he hit the three against the Celtics, I would say he will appeal Tyrese Hall not knowing what he's doing at like a maybe a moment of insanity. Sounds like the new There aren't they?
They up?
They're up two games to none against again, Yes, and it'd be action. They were down by seven. I wonder most happy in the last two.
Minutes to the Celtics did not score a basket and then they were down by seven points to forty seconds to go and lost.
I Garret, you know what, I think that that thing's gonna end up going seven and the and the Celts winning at all. You think so to break the hearts of Knickerbocker fans everywhere.
Well, Stephen A. Smith might Willis Reid got five games left, yeah, and the Celtics have to win four. The five Clyde, the Glide, Drexler or Frasier. I think Frasier's Clyde. The guy's exhibited the idea that it had large testicles the size of beach balls, and by doing so, he showed disrespect for the game and the NBA. After he hit that three, he said, there could be a fine coming your way with Ted McKay. Now, if you use your finger like on a gun, sort of a sign, then
you might be suspended for a game. But if you show disrespect for the game, I'm saying you have big coons, in which case you might get a fifty thousand dollars fuck. I guarantee you that guy.
That guy can either write a check in ten seconds for that, or he's got it in his pocket.
He's got a contract for two. He's got a million. I got sixty thousand into my pocket. Can I get changed? No, you're rolling shut your mouth. But tyresee could be hot segment. Where's all that money?
Find?
Money go to goes to NBA charities and they split it up and like baseball and all that things like the same thing. Red's community fun kind of a deal. Okay. Do you have hope for the Reds? I mean yes, they need the Nasty boys. And it's only what a month and two weeks into the season. About the nasty boys? Where's Myers when we need him? What about Norm? Get him up here?
A storm of Norman? I think's running charter boats in Texas. I heard that, and uh divil, I don't know where he is. I guess someplace. A beast is the popa White Sox. Randy Myers could be out in the middle of nowhere?
Is the Pope? A Cups is a reliever? Right at all? No something wrong? But according to his brother, the Pope's brother, some of the fans want the missile back. Bingo, you're the fastest pitch this year. Correct, we'll get him. What if the missile comes back to Cincinnati? Come out of the ballpen, let's go. But they've lost three or four games because of bullpen failures and the starting pitching is about as good.
Well, bullpen failures. Defense not knowing where to throw the ball. I mean, you know the other night with McLean uh draw, you know, ball goes over his head. I don't know what's going on, you know. And and then uh done, got caught a second base and it should have that. That should have been that. I mean, all bought the base,
but the umpire doesn't see it needs glasses. But then I think somebody uh watched a bunt in the game right and and right, and they budded it to the first basement instead of the third baseman, and he got a guy out at third.
Well, I mean he got to know, you know.
And then the other day that that Zuela guy is out there and they're yelling four four, and he's thinking the first first, thinking gol. That's when Washington scored a run when.
He said four. He said, what club am I hitting right? Hit the wrong four? Well, he thought he he shanked one to the left at ken ken Dale on number four and we got to see you. But seg we got the World Cup, we got the Olympics, we got Trump, and we got the Pope America right now is doing pretty damn plus with the National Football Champions of Ohio State. Do we claim them? I don't care about for Ohio State, do you? But they're there. They're the football champs right right? Yeah?
So hell, I don't know, but these are special times we needed the reds Now to arise. According to your reporting, there have been two occasions one of new pope has been selected and the Bengals have done what this is an historical I look for these events in these cues in life.
This is from a Jay Morrison, a good man who's covered sports for years around here from the athletic and in regarding a new pope, Leo the fourteenth, it's Pete Rose fourteen. There's that number again. The last two times the new Pope was elected in two thousand and five and twenty thirteen, the Cincinnati Bengals won the AFC North.
Now who was elected pope in twenty oh five?
This's he was fourteenth Pope John Paul the second no hope edict correct who was elected in twenty fourteen.
That was Francis. That's it, Francis Francisco Papa, who was president in twenty oh five, I can only handle one thing at Pope's all right, we got big things happening, and got the Pope, got the World Cup, got the Olympics, and got Trump. Actually, I thought we're going to do fine yesterday. That's a shows what I know. That's a clue, right there? A Locke, that's for sure. Who was his vice president?
Uh?
Dick Oh? I had named after Lawn the old movie star Lawn Chaney. Not that right there.
You know.
He came into the booth one year you were sitting there. Yeah, he didn't even recognize anybody. All he wanted to do was talk about, uh, you know, being re elected, and he left in ten seconds, off to New Orleans. His wife was a nice a nice lady, but he was kind of a He got a.
Stamp named after a stamp named after Barber. He was a nice lady, Barbara, she was president. Yeah, segment, thank you very much. Get me out of the Stud's Report, please, and once again, may God hold firmly in his hands the soul of Larry Henderson. Amen to that.
Will he everybody have a good weekend. We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.
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