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5-31-23 Willie with Tommy Valentine

May 31, 202317 min
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The Los Angeles Dodgers are hosting a drag group who dress up like nuns and commit sexual acts to a Dodgers game for Pride Night. Willie brings on Tommy Valentine from the Catholic Vote Group to explain why this move is so controversial.

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Right American coming up on June sixteenth is going to be an effort by the Los Angeles Dodgers to have a night in which certain groups are going to be asked to appear relative to LGBTQ plus materials. And of course, the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence have a long history of publicly and disgustingly mocking the Catholic Faith, including mock crucifixions with poll dancers. And I can't imagine this working anywhere but in Los Angeles or New York. Would not work in Cincinnati, where

I broadcast from. But a person involved in this is Tommy Valentine. He's a spokesman for the Catholic Vote Group. It's calling for a boycott and everything Dodgers related. And I noticed that there's been at least a couple of pictures for the Dodgers and others that have come out to said this will not stand. Tommy Valentine, welcome, I think for the first time to the Bill

Cunningham Show. And Tommy, can you first tell the American people. I don't have much history with the Sisters of Perpetual Indulge in can you give us an example of the type of things that they do. Yeah, well, first, thanks for having me on Bill, and I wish we had a more pleasant topic to talk about. And this is These are words that I would ever expect to come out of my mouth, but I have to tell

people what this group is all about. This is a group of men who dress as drag queen versions of nuns, but they go far beyond that. They do some of most vile, disgusting, despicable acts that you could even imagine. As you mentioned, they did some sort of display on Easter Sunday in San Francisco where they had a man dressed as Jesus carry across up a hill and then perform a pole dance on the cross, and it devolved in

all sorts of debauchery. They have cope bane names, which are vile travesties of the names and symbols that Christians and Catholics have held deer for two thousand years. They dressed in grotesque versions of the robes that nuns wear, and just all manner of things that go well beyond parity or satire, which is what they claim to be. They know exactly what it takes to offend Christians and do the most disgusting things they can do with the traditions that so many

billions of people across California and across the world. Old dear and I held dear for the last two thousand years. Like together, more facts can you tell us about how long this group has existed? I understand that there are dozens and dozens and major American cities. It's a performance art. And to use the term disgusting detestable, I guess it's okay to mock Christianity and mock

those who believe in religion. But it's not okay. I what, for example, if a white supremacist group went to the Los Angeles Dodgers and said, you know what, we want to dress in blackface and perform Mammy Out in Chavez Ravine. Would that fly? No, it wouldn't. And you bring up an excellent point, which is that bigotry disguise as entertainment is still bigotry. So this group has been around since I believe nineteen seventy nine.

They started in San Francisco, and they've existed on the fringes of society for decades now. We decided to pick this fight because we couldn't let an all American institution like the Los Angeles Dodgers, which is first of all, multi billion dollar corporation, but more importantly a group, a team with deep roots in American culture, to give a platform to a group like this, bring them out of the fringes, put them in the mainstream. We couldn't let

that stand. And so let's be clear. This is an anti Catholic a group, no doubt about it, and anything under the LGBTQ banner, I guess is exfused as long as it supports that ideology. I'm not quite sure, but you bring up another good point, which is that this would never fly with another religion. You wouldn't have drag queen stress as Muhammad. You wouldn't have drag queen stress as Jewish rabbis. There would be howls of protests.

The Christians are the last group in America it's acceptable to mock and degreed in this way. As far as the efforts in the past, I understand about a week or two ago the Dodgers said, no, we're not going to let this particular group come for Pride Night, and then just a little bit of pressure came from radical left wing extremists and the Dodgers quickly backtrack. Explain why they said. I guess they said yes originally, then they said no, and now they're back to yes. Explain that process. Yeah,

the timeline is pretty interesting. So we first heard about it. It was actually from a reader of our daily newsletter, which is The Loop, but an email list with over a quarter billion subscribers, and he said, I'm a lifelong Dodgers man. I saw that they're planning to honor this group on their quote unquote Pride Night, you know, wondering if you guys can do

something about it. So we broke the story, and then Senator Mark with Rubio Florida sent a letter to the Dodgers, as did a few other groups, and with in thirty six hours of everybody, all the you know, people on our side getting involved, the Dodgers decided to rescind the invitation, and we thought great. You know, we had a small ask. We didn't even ask them to cancel Pride Night, even though we disagree with it. We just said, please don't honor this vile, despicable, anti Catholic

hate group. But then the mainstream media, the left wing media, and extreme pressure groups started applying a typical pressure campaign on the Dodgers to reinvite the quote unquote Sisters of Precretual Indulgence, and their team president, Seeing Caston, gave a quote to the La Times saying, while we're listening to everybody, we're deciding what to do, and we thought, okay, great, maybe he'll call us and want to hear more about why we oppose this group.

We never got a phone call. They decided to reinvite the group. They only engaged with the LGBT groups, never called us. And that's why we

are here where we are today. And I think what you're seeing is that this story is only growing, and it's going to continue to grow until this happens on June sixteenth, and it's going to continue after because Catholic Book has launched a one million dollar campaign in the LA media market to inform all the four million Catholics in the Archdiocese of La Alone, and the millions more Christians of all denominations, the people of all faiths, that the Dodgers hate their

faith, that the Dodgers stand with the worst anti Catholic a group, that the Dodgers think that their faith is worthy of mockery and being made fun of. And so we're launching TV TV commercials and radio ads and billboards and digital ads, and we have much more to come, and people are not going to hear the end of this. We're going to keep it going throughout the twenty twenty three season into the playoffs, and if we need to, we'll

keep it going for years to come. And we're not going to stop until everybody knows exactly what the Dodgers support. And this is the same organization, Major League Baseball, that took the All Star Game out of the state of Georgia because of the sensitivities of minorities. And that was a joke because there was nothing about the voting in Georgia. The legislation passed that was somehow anti

black, anti Democrat, or whatever it might be. And quickly Major League Baseball said, well, the All Star Game cannot be in Georgia because of the passing of voter id laws. We can't have that, moved it out quickly to Denver. And so Stan Casson is also the same character who worked for many years with the Atlanta Braves. Tommy Valentine, can you address yourself to the issue of culture wars when I watch MSNBC, and I watch it so you don't have to. I watch MSNBC and they blame conservatives, and

they blame Christians and Jews and religious individuals. It is our fault for responding to this that we're winning the culture. We want to fight the culture wars. But isn't it true that the left, the radical left, are the ones putting the ball in play and all we're doing is responding, Yeah, that's exactly right. I think what you're seeing is that the tide is turning. You know, people on the right and people see are willing to put

up with a lot. Like we recognize we're not in the majority when it comes to elite culture and the media, but we just asked that we're not mocked, made fun of, you know, made to look like fools, and we're not going to stand for this. I think you bring up an important point about MLB and the culture wars in general. And I think this is a message that Rob Manfread, the Commissioner Baseball, needs to hear. Is that if you're a lifelong Dodge San and you're a Catholic or even any

form of Christian and you see the Dodgers standing with like this. You know, it's not like bud Light or Target, where you can find another beer brand, you can find another grocery store, you can find a small business

to support in your local community. With baseball, teams are something you invest in from the time you're a child, and if you find out that your team is engaging in this grotesque bigotry against your faith, chances are you're not gonna go become a Giant fan or a Red fan or a Phillies fan. You're just gonna stop watching baseball. And I think you saw a little bit of that with the Allstar Game that you referenced a couple of years ago.

People said, I don't want my sports, which is my leisure time, to be infected by politics. And I think you're going to see that with all the La Podger stamps, that we're going to desert the team. And again they're not going to go become Giants fans, They're just going to stop watching baseball. And I think there's so broadly, there's more of us than the media leaves us to believe, and when we stand together, we can be really powerful, and so we need to keep doing it well. The

Squeaky wheel gets the grease. And when I hear the arguments about the cultural wars and that somehow the great bulk of the silent majority of Americans put up with this crap all the time without responding to it, every now and then the outrage meter becomes over the top and normal people have got to say, this is not the kind of world in which I want to live. I could not imagine any other religion mocked in such a disgusting fashion and having no

response at all from the mainstream media. In fact, when I watch CNN or MSNBC, read the New York Times Washington Post, there's little or no coverage. And when the coverage of people like you and me are cover, it's in a way that we're responding to culture wars. Something's wrong with us. If I want to go to a Target store, which I've not been in in years, so I can't call for a boycott if something I haven't

done myself. I'm not a shopper, I've not gone there, but to have in the front of the store a little pouch down in the crotch area for an eight year old girl to buy a bathing suit in case as an eight year old boy who wants to identify as a girl. It touches upon the issues of bigotry and two genders, not one hundred and seven different genders. But it does relate that average Americans who want to drink a bud light or average Americans that want to go to a target store and not be highly

offended by presentations. We're finally getting the queue that maybe we should be involved. And so for those who live in the southern California area on June sixteenth, coming up in about two weeks or so, well, what can they do if stan Casting and the Dodgers continue to do this, even the Dodgers pitch don't like it in a proactive way, what can be done? Yeah, we'll take for bringing that part up, because this is an important piece of it. So we at CALVI of Vote are working on a couple different

things. We are going to have a present We're just working on exactly what that'd look like. And this is not going to go unnoticed. But in the meantime, people should call and email the Dodgers, and they should tag

them on social media. You know, a lot of what happens with these pressure campaigns from the left is that they will get you know, a few hundred or a couple of thousand people to tweet into the Dodgers or target or bud light and express their outrage on behalf of the left to make themselves look like the majority. And they'll even employ probots and automated programs to do that sort of thing. So we need to push back. We need to make

our voices heard. So we've posted on our westside of cavok dot org ways people can get in touch with the Dodgers. We have the email address of the marketing director who originally cook this up. We have the direct phone number of the Dodgers executive bosses. They need to hear our voices, and so people in California and people across the country need to be calling, emailing and tagging the Dodgers on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, any platform that you view.

And then, like I said, for people in southern California, please say tuned to or website of catholicook dot org because it will be announcing very soon what we plan to do about this in person in California. Tommy Valentine, how do you respond to the argument that you're the bigot? It's a nice argument to make. In other words, I engage in disgusting behavior,

then I accuse you of the items and the ideas that I promote. How do you respond to those who say this is you're encouraging the killing of gay people, and as an American, I say, look, let the golden rule prevail. Treat others as you would like to be treated. Treat people. I don't care if you're gay, bisexual, gay, whatever it might be, have at it. Live your life, but don't jam your lifestyle down my throat. Live your life as I live my life as a practicing

heterosexual. I don't think heterosexuals, which have got to be ninety seven ninety eight percent of the adult population, want to have their forms of publicized identified and celebrate it. Those are private matters between a man and a woman. But if you're a gay couple and you want to live your life, how do you respond to the argument that somehow you want to encourage transgender kids to kill themselves or you're the problem in keeping them from getting proper jobs, which

I don't want that to happen. I don't want anybody kill themselves. I want everyone to live their life well, live it quietly. If you want to have a certain form of sex and private as an adult, have at it. It's not illegal. Enjoy your life, work, do whatever you're going to do in your life. But I want to live my life too, So how do you respond to the fact that you're encouraging suicide among transgender

youth? For example, that is the argument I hear that Tommy Valentine's the Catholic votes to Christians, the Muslims, the Jews of this world want to encourage kids who are confused about their gender identity to kill themselves, which I

don't want that to happen. How do you respond to that, Well, it's just a lie, sa vicious lie, and it's a lie that is actually positing life of transgendered children, ironically, because studies have shown over and over again that these mutilation surgeries that these poor children and their parents are convinced to undergo by highly paid doctors speaking from positions of authority, do not improve

mental health outcomes and usually worse than them. That's thought to say, there might be there might not be some trans kids somewhere who lives a happy life after having his generals mutilated, but that's not the norm, and that's not what the science shows, and so they do that as a way of a scaring the parent into paying these hospitals and these crooked doctors hundreds of thousands of dollars, because if you have a child who's said through one of these surgeries,

you have a lifelong medical patient who's going to be worth a ton of money to the hospital or whatever healthcare system performed these mutilations. And so it's a way of just scaring people into silence. And I think the answer to lies is the truth. You know, we can respond with science. I think people need to understand the studies are out there and the studies do not line up with that. But we can also respond with the truth that everybody

knows, which is that it's not easy being human. You know, every teenager goes through some days where they question their bodies and question their identities. That's a normal part of development. And some kids, yes, some kids have it worse than others. You know, I've struggled with mental health issues of my own, not on this topic, but on other issues. And if if my doctors and my therapists told me, you know, all your fears are true and you need to take this drastic step to improve your life.

That would be a lie that would not help me. And I'm glad that I had doctors who were in my corner who helped me to understand what the truth wasn't. What my brain wasn't was telling me was not true. And so that's why it's especially offensive to me that the people and positions of power and supposed authority are willing to lie to kids and to lie to their parents by saying you have to do this or you'll end up because it's just not true. So we need to speak for the truth. Tommy Valentine,

I want nothing bad to happen to any transgender kid. Everyone should get to help help. They need the great majority of those in their twenties and thirties to do this. Look back upon it without happiness, without glee. They believe they made a mistake, and I just I want everyone to live their best, fullest life that they can live, no matter what their status is

in life. But I do know I do not win bigotry disguise as entertainment to somehow being Dodgers Stadium on June sixteenth, We'll see what happens once again, Tommy Valentine, thank you, for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And if everything goes well once again, Catholic vote dot org is the website. And thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And keep doing

what you're doing. You're not a bigot. You oppose bigotry. Tommy Valentine, thank you very much, Thank you, Bill, appreciate your time today. God bless America. All right, let's continue with more and if a line becomes available five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand or pound seven hundred new at and T Bill Cunningham Live every day at Rome of the Red Streaking a News radio seven hundred WLW, zero percent APR Finance

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