Bill cunning in The Great American. Of course, story after story indicates that these governmental policies demanding the consumers like you by only evs in the next five or six years is completely collapsing. The reason we have a middle class that functions is low energy prices, whether it's your whether it's your suv, or
whether it's a car, or whether it's energy for your home. And the plan is, and you're being warned, the plan is in the next four to six years, is to have a grid that is basically in collapse. So one must go to vehicles as determined by the federal government, and they will determine for you. In the summertime in Texas, in the summer might be one hundred and three degrees, but you won't be able to get your house any cooler than eighty five. And in the winter time is going to
be sixty five degrees when it's cold as the well diggers behind. And we're fighting like warrior poets, and we have ridiculous headlines that somehow Joe Biden has a great energy policy because we're producing more natural gas and oil than ever before. And the reason is the supply is down and the demand is up. And if you read the Wall Street Journal story about what's happening to America's energy grid, the last coal fired power plant in New England is being shut next
year. And so they keep restricting the ability of energy producers to give us electricity, which means the price is going up. And some of these AI factories and chip manufacturers, especially one in Ohio and one in Colorado, has a tremendous demand for electricity which won't be there. And of course, Jason Isaac is the CEO of the American Energy Institute, I think, headquartered in the great state of Texas. And Jason, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham
Show. And can you give us an overview of the policies of Joe Biden and God forbid if he gets the reelected November fifth, and we go through a cycle of him and Kamala Harris for the next ten to twelve years. What does America look like under their lack of leadership when it comes to energy. Yeah, it's going to continue to look a lot like what we're seeing today, more and more people losing their electricity and losing their natural gas.
From twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two, there was a thirty percent increase in people getting their electricity disconnected and the seventy six percent increase in people that got their natural gas disconnect. That's over five million Americans losing utilities that either heat their homes or cook their food, warm their water, help them wash clothes, stay clean and healthy, and they've lost that access because of this
energy driven inflation that's being forced down our throats by the Biden administration. Numbers just out showing inflations up three and a half percent. You mentioned New England closing their coal fired power plant. The last one that's really unfortunate. The marketing campaign by the climate alarmist against coal has been incredibly successful, only to our detriment. Everywhere in the world where they use less coal, they've reduced
the amount of coal costs have gone up, thankfully to American innovation. We've got the world's leading clean air. We've reduced pollution nearly eighty percent over the last five decades. We use coal more responsibly than any country in the world because we actually use pollution control technology, you know, the things that capture the harmful things out of the air before they hit the air, and then actually we can use some of those products. You like the fly ash from
coal, It doesn't fly anymore, it's just ash. You mix that in concrete. It makes concrete cheaper. So what's going up? The cost of concrete's now going up because they don't have this additive that makes it stronger and cheaper. It's just more of the same idiocy that we've been seeing for the last three and a half years. You know, It's funny. In New England though, what they do have is they have a power plant that burns trash, and there are certain times in the winter when that power is producing
more than any renewable on the grid. There helping people keep their homes warm burning trash. They use pollution control technology to It's just absurd. I'd rather rurn American energy natural gas, coal, nuclear, where again we use it and produce it more responsible than anywhere else on the planet. As we're sitting here in April with twenty twenty four, are there any in construction power plants in America that burns coal? Is any being constructed as I speak? No,
they're not. They're actually being decommissioned. They're being early retired. There's proposals to shut down coal fired power plants all over this country, years before they've passed, years before they've absorbed the cost, before they've gotten a return on investment. And utilities love this. Why would you think of utility would love us. They get to pass on the cost to consumers and so they get more revenue. And it's unfortunate that they're not necessarily aligned with the American
Energy Institute. You know, we're a trade association that supports free markets and American energy. There's a great quote by Churchill talking about an appeaser as someone who feeds crocodiles hoping they'll be the last one eating. Well, we don't feed crocodiles, we wear them. Also, Jason Isaac, I would assume there's no nuclear power plants being constructed as I speak, So when would is real? Soon coal fired power plants are gone and nuclear power plants are not
being constructed. In fact, they're being decommissioned. That is a chunk of the ability we have to produce electricity, which leaves it to natural gas, and I guess other means and method because obviously windmills don't work, and the solar batteries from China don't work when the wind doesn't blow and the sun don't
shine. We know what happens. So what's the long term plan. Say we jump ahead five or six years and it's now twenty thirty twenty thirty two, we have no nuclear power plants that are operational, coal fired power plants are done. Where do we get the massive increase of the demand for electricity, Well, it's going to be from quick start natural gas generation, which is very expensive. It doesn't run all the time, and so when you do need it to balance the load on the grid, it costs a lot
of money. You know, it helps in certain situations, but you look at states like California, they're being completely dependent on it because they're unreliable, aren't producing electricity during peak demand time. In just this month, the state
of California passed the law they're going to tap into your garage. So if you've got one of those power batteries that you think is going to help you in case your power goes out for a few hours or you're charging your ev that are going to pull the electricity from those to manage demand on the grid. Now, if you're industry and you're looking for a reliable country to build
a new plant or build some new manufacturing. You're not going to go to some place in some country that's being dependent on people's evs and their garage that are charging. You need a lot of electricity. Artificial intelligence uses a ton of electricity. So we need more reliable thermal generation from natural gas. The combined cycle is the most efficient. We need more coal because it's great for
on site storage. You can keep nine to twelve months of coal at the location, so if you do have some hacks or attacks on a pipeline like we've seen already in this country, doesn't matter. With cole you've got it on site, you don't have to pipe it into you. And then we need a lot more nuclear because it's great for baseload generation. In reality, is that possible? In the Greta Thunberg era, she was just arrested again in the Netherlands laying in front of a road. Because the farmers in Europe
are going crazy. They're going nuts. They're shutting down large European cities because of the requirements of France and Belgium and Germany. What they can and can't do the gold is to put diapers on cows or to get rid of the flatulence. I can only imagine what we'd like to put a diaper on a bowl. But that's a different story, and that's not well reported. Is it what the European farmers going through. No, it's really not. And
it's funny because they actually do put masks on cows. That's how you know they're Democrats. Because to capture the CO two and the methane coming from their perps, it's absolutely absurd. It doesn't do anything to mitigate a change in climate. It just increases the cost of everything. I think Europe may be lost, but the farmers are certainly helping the case. But unfortunately, this three point five percent inflation that was just recently reported is going to continue to
go up, driven by energy inflation in this attack on American energy. In Europe alone, over seventy percent of the fertilizer manufacturing facilities are offline because they don't have the feedstock natural gas to produce the products that help grow more food and less land. Something that would be great of solar energy and wind energy
would recognize how much land they destroy to produce unreliable variable weather. But I hope Europe wakes up, but I'm thinking they may be too far gone, but America needs to stand up. I thought I was making a joke about diapers and masks. You're telling me that's real. That's why the farmers are going nuts. They can't they can't get enough masks to put around the bulls and the sheep and the pigs, and they have to have diapers, and
because of the flatulence, so that's a major problem. It really is real. It is a joke though, because they're doing it and it's just so stupid, and it just costs more money. It's just laughable. Don't let your pig fart now, I'm laughing about a high Have a steak, wrap it and bacon. Well, I have. We have so much to touch on. But I saw a story out of Brazil that they have so many rock pythons and anacondas that they're capturing them to take the place of steak.
They say, have a snake, and I'm thinking of eating a snake. And the reason is is because they're complying with certain environmental standards and the cattle, the sheep and the pigs are destroying too much of the rainforest, and they want to substitute steaks with snakes. Would you eat a boa? You know, in Texas we figured out a way to pretty much fry everything, So yeah, I probably haven't eat a snake. Let's prefer the though.
Think, can you imagine the world in which our kids and grandkids are going to grow up in in the next ten to fifteen to twenty Now we're as close to twenty forty as we are to nineteen ninety eight. Can you imagine that world if the Trumpster doesn't win? In common sense is given and were going through a long cycle of Joe Biden and then Kamala Harris and then Gavin
Newsom, twenty thirty years of that. What does America look like? Well, reverse a lot of the progress that we've seen over the last fifty years, where we've become world leaders in clean air. People won't be able to afford energy in their homes, so they'll resort back to firewood, which was you know, one hundred years ago. We'll see an increase in deforestation places around the world. You know, there are places that are like this.
You look between the Haiti and Dominican Republic, and one of them has a lot of trees that are on an island. Another one doesn't because they don't have access to hydrocarbons from fossil fuels, and so that's what we would experience here, increase in poverty, decrease in life expectancy. All the things are attributable to having access to affordable, reliable energy, and that's getting more and
more out of touch and out of our reach. The one thing you brushed over quickly is that America, because of ingenuity, is capturing over eighty percent of particular matters coming out of coal fired power plants and then being repositioned. We have clean coal everywhere. We used to have a nuclear power plant planned here in Cincinnati that was gotten rid of, and now the coal fired power
plant's going away too. And the utility companies say, fine, whatever the cost, will pass them on. But utility bills are right now through the roof. And lastly, Jason Isaac of the American Energy Institute, what is the plan about these electric vehicles? We haven't touched on because right now Ford, there's some ridiculous number. A Ford dealer told me that every time they sell an RV a Ford RV, Ford loses thirty five thousand dollars on each
sale. Can you tell the American people what the plant is about the evs. Yeah, and the market is responding. Consumers don't want them, support for them. Polling shows that support an interest in them is waning. The only manufacturer that has brand loyalty, whereas if you own one of their vehicles and then you want to buy another one, buy another vehicle, you go back to that manufacturer, and that's Tesla, And for the first time they
just reported a decrease in year over year numbers. So even Tesla's are on the wane, but those are the most popular. Ford they're slashing production significantly. The Ford lightning truck that they lowered the cost from ninety eight thousand to ninety two thousand dollars, ooh, Big Savings is losing over sixty two thousand
dollars per truck. And then research I published last year where the Texas Public Policy Foundation shows that you and I are subsidizing over ten years another fifty thousand dollars, So that lightning truck costs two hundred thousand dollars over ten years, and that's not including the cost for tires that you're going to have to replace every ten thousand miles that actually increase pollution. Yes, evs are showing to
increase pollution because of tire wear and break dust. There's so much weight behind those vehicles. They need massive breaks and that is showing in air quality because of evs. It's absurd. It's this push from the environmental climate alarmist to control every aspect of our lives. But I think we're seeing a big reversal. Companies like Toyota and others are embracing hybrid electric vehicles, which are very efficient. Those are great vehicles. We need more of those on the market.
We just got to change the policy at the federal level. And they get this crazy illegal multiplier credit. If you produce an EV, so let's say it gets sixty five miles per gallon, you get credit for over five
hundred miles per gallon. And then they trade those credits and that's where Tesla in twenty twenty one made nearly two billion dollars in revenue with selling those credits manufacturers, and so that adds up to nearly twenty thousand dollars in subsidies that internal combustion engine buyers, gasoline diesel buyers are helping people that own these wealthy individuals that own these fancy gadgets evs, we're helping subsidize those costs significantly.
You kind of brushed over this quickly. I want to just for the last minute, deal with this. That you say that hot that electric vehicles are more polluting than gas vehicles. Explain, Yeah, the tire wear, so the torque behind an EV. If you've ever had an opportunity to drive an EV, they're fun there, they're great. They've got a lot of torque that they're not practical for people like me to like to drive a lot or need to drive a lot for work. But that torque turns those tires faster.
The vehicles weigh a lot more, and so you wear down your tires, and there are reports that are showing some electric vehicles are having to replace their tires every seven to ten thousand miles. And then the brake pads, the dust from the brake pads from having to slow down that extremely heavy vehicle are creating more break dust and that is getting into our air and it's affecting
our air quality. We're still world leaders in clean air and we're practically at a natural state, but the last thing we want to do is have any decrease in that air quality. We want to continue our world leading levels where we are now. Well here, we are bringing about what we seek to
avoid, which is a bad environment occasioned by liberal Democrats. Jason Isaac, you're the CEO of the American Energy Institute, and the Wall Street Journal says there's a coming energy crisis in this country with great increase of demand with less supply means average Americans are going to have their cost skyrocket once again. Jason Isaac, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and Jason, you're a great American. Thank you. Bill. Let's do it again,
Jason Isaac, Let's continue with more. There it is batteries from China, increase pollution, government control of your life, middle class obliterated. Is that what the ma Ininsteram media is telling you. I don't think so. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WLW. This week, I only get three rooms a car,