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3-26-24 Willie with Melissa Powers

Mar 26, 202419 min
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Willie talks with Hamilton County Prosecutor Melissa Powers about the growing problem with runaway children, and why juvenile court is not helping the issue.

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Say after the tri State bad weather is heading our way with winds up to fifty miles in our state. Tuned for that and more. Plus later on we're going to have Randy Freaking in at one thirty to talk about Red Spaceball and the Community Fund. It's getting ready for action. On Thursday. Our coverage starts about five am, but nonetheless, albeit the Holy Grail with Marty Brenneman and Bob Castellini, a bunch of others starting about two o'clock. Joints

there if you can get in, it's going to be wonderful. But most importantly Hamny County Prosecutor and Melissa Powers has an opinion editorial in the Inquiry about

runaways, what's happening in juvenile court. Also there was another a long editorial and there was a long story in the Inquiry about snitches are being misused and the neophyte running against Melissa Powers is saying that there used to be an addit of homicide cases in the Hamny County Prosecutor's office to make sure that the murderers

are getting all that's due to them. As far as rights plus squatters are a big issue, I know in northern Kentucky and Ohio people are concerned about leaving their homes and whether squatters may simply come into your house live there and you can't get them out. And a plus elder justice is percolating on the

side. Also Melissa Powers, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, there's an audit proposed by your political opponent, an audit as if this is some sort of an accounting matter of the snitches and others on the criminal cases. How many kinds of prosecutor's office has been recognized for decades as the top prosecutor's office in the Tri State, if not the nation. The conviction rate you have for murder cases as well, above ninety five

percent might be ninety nine percent. Can you describe the role of snitches in murder cases and why they're critical and those who criticize such things don't know what they're talking about. Well, oftentimes, Bill that in order to proceed on criminal matters, it may involve having informants or snitches Jaoe house snitches involved in a case. And it is the use of these informants are always determined on

a case by case basis. The decision to offer any testimony and informant in a trial is also determined by a case by case basis with the attorney handle meet cases, and then we use a lot of we go back through what their testimony of maybe if used at a trial, consulting with law enforcement, review of the evidence, what are the strength and weaknesses of the case. So there's a lot of factors that go in. No one likes using them, but sometimes it's a necessity. Is the only way in order to go

forward. We would love to have you know, cases proved and witness all our witnesses to be you know, crimes to occur in front of a convent for example, where the witnesses are impeccable, but that's not always the case when you're dealing with criminal matters. So it's used, It's been used for years, is forever really quite honestly. Some are effective and sometimes it's not. It's a high risk in using the snitch, There's no doubt about it.

Many times it's the only method to get a conviction. And members of these gangs in Cincinnati, and you can get somebody killed in Cincinnati for like fifteen hundred dollars or less. And these aren't boy scouts. These are not

members of the Chamber of commerce. And many times if you call her a snitch and they put the hot white lamps on them, they want to give information, and you vought your juris ahead of time, telling them, look this is and then you confirm that what the snitch is telling you independently objectively about some other member of the gang. You confirm that before you proceed.

And so for those who say there needs to be an audit, that someone needs to come to audit the ament Cunty Prosecutor's office on the use of snitches, how does a seasoned prosecutor like you react to the idea of an audit. Well, I did see the response or comment by my opponent who wants to conduct an audit of all homicide cases. So I don't know how far back that she's intending to go with that and overturned convictions if a snitch was

used or an informant was used. I have no idea, but it's it just points out I think the glaring that is so glaring that she doesn't know what she's talking about, and she does not have the experience in the criminal

justice system to understand how things work. And and basically I think it points out that she doesn't She hasn't been in the courtroom and has never handled a homicide case, has never worked with law enforcement on homicide cases, have never have never interviewed a snitch, have never gone through all the methods that you're trying to make sure that the snitch is giving you truthful testimony. The last thing we want is to be able to have a trial where we and we

have a snitch that's not credible. We do the best we can with that, but as you know, the criminal justice process is not perfect. Both the state and the criminal defendants, we want a fair trial. It's not always going to be a perfect one. Every day we work in law enforcement, we want to make sure justice is served in the courtrooms, and we want to make sure that the people have confidence and what's happening inside the courtrooms.

If we made a mistake, we'll own up to it. This office will own up to it, and we'll fight just as hard to correct the record. When attempts are made to cast down on the work that we do, we look at it as as this is all about public safety, keeping people safe, holding people accountable, and punishing the wrongdoers, the law breakers, the criminals that are committing the murders. That's who we want. We do not. We are looking for the truth. We're always looking for the

truth. Of course, audits are always very important. Got to have an audit now and then you've never heard of it, to have an audit, I've never heard of that. But anyway, that's a new approach. But you have a column on yesterday that you hamilet accounty, juvenile courts, stands on runaways, a miscarriage of justice. Let me share with the American people your first sentence. Last falls, thousands of Bengal fans gathered to cheer on

the Bengals at a tailgate around the stadium. A teenager walked among them. She was pregnant, she was on the run, she was under eighteen, and she was being trafficked, pimped out, and sold for sex to attendees of the Ruckus party that takes place every home game during the football season. Caseworkers had her name, her information, and her history. She's been missing since July of twenty twenty three and on the run from her foster care placement.

Despite their efforts, she was slipping through the cracks and so this is a tragedy that happens on large gatherings all the time with runaways and girls, generally teenagers being trafficked for sex. Explain what the stance is of juvenile Court relative to runaways and how it's the wrong approach. Well the law. There are a number of statutes in Ohio that children can be taken into custody and

placed temporarily detention to make sure that they are safe from harm. There's a federal law also that doesn't allow the children to be held more than seven days. There's a timeline within twenty four hours if they're taken into custody on a runaway warrant or a violation of a court order, and typically this involves foster

children and their placements. Currently, to date we have since this was implemented by Juvenile Court, they decided not to accept runaway charges anymore and instead tell families or Hamilton County Job and Family Services to file missing person reports for any runaway or violations of placement orders and then issue them either as a citation and

then contact and have them filed as missing children reports. They claim that this is a better way to go because it makes it not just in Hamilton County. There's notice given you know throughout it could be throughout the country. For example. What that means is is if a police, if a family or the Hamilton County Job and Family Services, we have a runaway, we have

some right now, we have one hundred. I'm just going to talk about foster children, not all all runaways, just the foster care kids alone, one hundred and thirteen kids that have been that ran away from their placement. Fifty six of them are still a wall since the Court's policy was initiated in July of twenty three. The example that you pointed out involves one of these cases where we our office ask for a warrant. Please give us a warrant.

What that enables police to do is to be able to if they locate the child, take the child into custody and get them before the court to try to get some services to them, have them evaluate it and see what they need. What the problem is, why they are running away, If they're running and so, without getting too technical, what the Court has done is eliminated all that. Now they're not following the law. They claim it's

the extension of the federal law. So they are writing their own law, there being activist judges writing their own law saying they're not going to accept any runaway charges and then just do missing person reports. So what that is a detriment to the child is if somebody, if the law enforcement does locate the child, they can all they can do is ask the child, will you come with us? You know, will you please come with us? What

can we do for you? You know, just ask questions. The child can refuse to be taken into custody and brought back before the court, So they've eliminated the mechanism that we can help these children. My office keeps asking for these warrants. Hamilton since this has been this policy that they've developed and adopted, if not following the law, creating their own law of no complaints,

no warrants pro Kids as opposed to it. Hamilton County, Job and Family Services as opposed to it, the Guardian Items as opposed to it. Also, the Public Defender's Office is opposed to it. Because there are I've got a list of fifty six kids. The narratives are almost all the same. If it's a female, there's either interest. We've had one female on the run who odeed began using intravenious drugs, most likely heroine, given to her by the pimp that was trafficking our So she's now dead and on a

wall. She was a wall when this happened. We have the girl that you just explained, but mostly the females. What we have are the young females are victims of trafficking, and the court knows that this is brought to their attention by my office. They know about it and still refuse to issue the warrants. They won't do it now. The warrant is our only mechanism

to remove them from a terrible situation. If it's a male, typically the males are committing all kinds of crimes from our sin down to the burglary, stealing, call ours, firearm charges, all the way down the gamut. And we may catch the boys because they're picking up new charges. But the females are the ones that are at the highest risk and the saddest cases that

you hear. All of them are being trafficked, and we know that at the shelter, our local shelter, here is the known spot where these pimps, these traffickers go to recruit and then Once a girl is recruited, she goes back into the shelter and recruits more children, more females to be part of the ring. And it's just a terrible, terrible situation. And the court, I've made them aware of what's going on. I've pointed it out to them. I've talked to law enforcement. We've opposed this, we're trying

to get it changed. But they are not relenting. They're double down and sticking to it and claiming that they're following the law. But they've extended the law. An extension of the law is the court decided not to accept runaway charges and warrants. Well, so it leads to families, and that's just

the job. Those are just the foster children, if you I mean, can you imagine the poor family a child runs away and they don't know how to locate their child and the best they're going to get is a missing person report. Well don't you want what do you want? The cop to be able to take that child and move them from whatever beast situation it is. I mean, it's just heartless what they're doing. But their agenda and there

they're political philosophy. I don't even know if it involves politics, but their philosophy is harmful and they're hurting the most the most vulnerable segment of our society, which not only children, but these children that have been on a difficult road their entire life. And then we're just compounding which will be lifelong problems obviously in the future if they if they survive it. And you want to make clear to the American people that you do not want to criminalize runaways.

What you want to do is use the warrant issued by a judge to a cop that when you love, okay to girl being sexually trafficked at a REDS game of Bengals gamer anywhere, I have this warrant, I'm taking you into custody and I'm gonna put you at twenty twenty. You're gonna go see a magistrate and that begins the process of getting her out of that life. But

when you don't issue the warrant, that means you decriminalize crime. You decriminalize it, and you say, well, just file a missing person's report along with tens of thousands of others, and the cop doesn't they have the authority to take physical control of that child to begin the process of getting them help.

And this is again Judge carry Bloom is the chief judge and Juvenile Court, and she says, we're not going to issue warrants and just file a missing person's report, which harms the children that she is supposed to help and protect. And so you don't want to criminalize runaways, but you want to get them in the system so they can get some help. They have a ladder out of the hole in which they find themselves not now. Lastly, one of the big issues happening in Hamiley County. I heard about a case

in an upscale community recently in what squatters moved into a house. And can you tell the American people, just generally speaking, what rights does someone in Ohio have when they're gone for a couple of weeks or three weeks or six weeks and someone's living in their home. That seems to me to be a burglary, but maybe not really explain squatters and how that's developing into a problem.

Well, squatters, they have legal rights in Ohio, surprisingly, and it makes it difficult for the homeowner to actually remove that person there from the home. Do you have to follow an eviction process? And that can take anywhere from six to eight weeks. But the first thing in order to evict a squatter is to smile and see hopefully a criminal trespass charge at the very least, maybe a burglary offense. We have successfully prosecuted in the past squatters

for b and E breaking and entering deft. Sometimes they even file records with the auditor's office and their false documents. We've had one where they're tampering with records. This squatters they have no legal rights to the property, but they can actually acquire possession by occupying the property even though they don't have permission of the owner, and they over a period of time, the longer they're there,

they obtained these rights, says. Often it's an abandoned property or a ten you know, the homeowner is gone for a period of time thirty days or more, and people actually move in. They don't have their legal right to live in there, but no rental agreement, no permission from the property owner. But they what they turn on the water, they turn on the electricity, they put it in their name. I mean, there's lots of things that these squatters are doing that is just just insane to think and normally

that they could be treated and give any any kind of right. Now in Florida, which I think is being effectively signed today by Guv. DeSantis, they are giving the police to the right to immediately remove squatters. In Ohio. The police cannot go in and take it, say knock on the door and kick the squatter out. The owner, the homeowner has to go through

an eviction process, which is absolutely insane. But Florida. Hopefully Ohio will follow Florida's lead and give the police the right to immediately remove the squatters and not have to go through that formal process of eviction. Unbelieved you, I'll contact you know, I'll get a hold of the Governor's office, the Speaker of the House, Stevens. Huffman, the Senate. This has got to be the law in Ohio. And I talked to Rob Sanders. The same

thing's happening in Kentucky. It's popular now among squatters to move from place to place and they monitor a house they move in and they claim to have a verbal lease, or they dummy up a lice online and say Tony Bender owns the house in Montford Heights, and they go online the Recorder's office, Tony Bender owns this house. He's not here, and we'll go online get a lease. Sign Tony Bender's name to the lease. Yes, he's the landlord,

but I have I got a two year lease. And they dumb me up some payment of one type or another, and they're in the house. The cops shows up and says, wait a minute, you're not supposed to be. Well, here's the lease. Tony Bender signed the lease, he's the landlord, and I got it enough. Cop says, well, I'm done. Then you got to go to court. That takes months. It's

unbelievable. It is unbelievable. I'm hoping that our state catches up to what and uses for it is an example, and our lawmakers pass a bill that allows it, does not keep this. You know, from that we can protect ourselves. But in the meantime, you can take steps to a victor squatter. And the first thing would be is that you want to contact your

local police department and hopefully get that trespassed charge at the very least. And then there's other things going on like if they're vandalizing, they're using drugs in there. If you can find out any of these kind of things, then he's giving some actions that the police can take, so you can try to

use the criminal justice system in that way. Make sure that right, make sure that you are trying, you know, you're preparing to prove your case in court with videos, photographs, any damage or proof of this squatting. Make sure that see what your utility bills have been changed into their name. Make sure they're not paying you know, you're paying your property taxes. They're not. I mean, there's lots of things that they're doing to stay in

the property. It's really a major problem, and now we're seeing it all over Twitter. To sit there and teach people more of this, how to do it and take advantage of this old lall we got to run. Melissa Powers, thank you, and TikTok has videos telling squatters how to do this. Melissa Powers, you're doing great work, and once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show this Tuesday afternoon. Thank you very much. Yeah, welcome, Thanks for having me. Bell I have a great

day, Melissa Powers. Let's continue with more. We're going to talk about this after the news on news radio seven hundred WLW.

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