Have on the floor for a vote in the US Senate the final James Langor from Oklahoma bill that would define what new powers the president might have to evict from this country. So many illegal aliens will have any impact. Of course, the headline number, according to leaks, which may or may not be accurate, is that there's a five thousand dollars five thousand person limit per day, and at that point then certain powers are triggered. Five thousand a day
of illego aliens is almost two million every year. That doesn't count so many others and the numbers USA has been on this issue for many years in James Massa is with numbers usay and James Massa, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And from the speculation that we have today, can you tell the American people why the Oklahoma legislature sanctioned their own Republican senator? What do they know
that many do not? Well, it's always good to be here, Bill, and I would say that what they know others do know, which is that what Langford has proposed and what he continues to negotiate is completely at odds with what the House has already passed in regards to to during the border it's
actually codifying the border crisis. And it's not just Langford on this. This is actually McConnell driven Langford bill, and so he Langford's catching the grief fort and you absolutely should be, because the things that are coming out that are being rumored or are just atrocities. However, who's really driving this behind it is McConnell, which is kind of said, I mean, he looks like the bottom of my right foot. But secondly, he's completely lost his way.
Senator Ran Paul, who's a frequent guest here, he will not speak ill of a fellow senator. But Mitch McConnell is a reflection of Chuck Schumer. And so I would imagine that the bill is doa in the House of Representatives, but explain what the crisis is for those who don't pay a lot of attention. And James, you and I are connected to what's happening in
the world, what's happening in current events. But the average American often wakes up the day before the election and says, is tomorrow the election day? November fifth? Or is it next week? They live their lives in good and simple ways, work, care for their families, give charitably of their time, and they simply live their life. But most don't know. Most Americans don't pay attention to this. Why I'll ask James Master this question.
Why is there a crisis now in the southern border that the mainstream media has just recently discovered. Well, it's unavoidable of what's going on on the southern border. Just in December, there were three hundred and two thousand illegal apprehensions on the southern border alone, three hundred and twenty seven thousand throughout the United States, completely increuting the courts of entry of people who have tried to enter
into the United States illegally. Even back in the Obama era, eighty two percent of those people were turned around and sent back. In the Trump area is even higher. But in the Biden Mine illustration, over eighty five percent of those people are let into the United States, released into the interior, and given a job permit. So the impact is enormous on our nation, both in jobs as well as on the stress of the communities, everything from
healthcare to education and on and on. And I live in Cincinnati, Ohio. We have three hundred and five thousand residents in the city of Cincinnati. So one can imagine in one month we had the same number of people illegally enter the country as live in the city of Cincinnati and over continuing at that pace, the number normally given is eight to ten million. The past three
years under Biden, that number is accelerating to maybe one hundred million. More so, when Chicago, New York, Portland, LA, and Atlanta deals with illegal immigration, this is the tip of the spear, the tip of the iceberg. There's another one to two hundred million that want to come into this country. And address yourself to this issue. Whenever Joe Biden walks to
a helicopter, someone tries to yell questions to him. And of course he can't hold a news conference, he can't hold the sparre thoughts in his mind to issue a fungent opinion about anything because of his mental acuity lack thereof. But what are the two or three things that Joe Biden could do this afternoon, could do tonight, to do tomorrow that would absolutely fundamentally change the border
without money coming from the Congress, because Trump did it. Trump did not have large immigration bills that allowed him to shut down the southern border and make it work. What could Biden do if he had the guts to do it. What are the two or three things that should occur. Well, one of the first things he could do is end this catch and release policy. Catching release is what I just described. People come in, they're apprehended,
then they're release into the United States. The return the remain in Mexico policy of the Trump era is what stopped that. And it put a stop to over seventy five percent of the illegal incursion into the United States just by saying, if you come here, you're not going to be released into the United States. You're going to have to stay in Mexico or your country of origin
until whatever you're claiming is addressed. So that alone could be done. And what's in this new bill, and this is why people are so up at armed, what's coming out of language work, is that one of the proposals is that they won't actually catch and release them. They will catch them and put them in what it is stags and have a job permit that we know where you are. Can you imagine I do, because I see it. Cincinnati, now, little Cincinnati has a homelessness crisis that we never have not
had in years and what's happening. And for those in Chicago and other big cities, they must understand this is the tip of the iceberg. This is solving the problem. It's been well publicized now. These illegal aliens living at the Roosevelt Hotel, which a few years ago was a wonderful facility in Manhattan, has been taken over. The six hundred and fifty rooms there have been
taken over by Homeland Security. They pay the operator huge amounts of money, and they've thrown out the residents much like in a school in Brooklyn, and put into legal aliens. And then two cops in uniform. I spent five years on my TV show in New York City, and I loved it there with those cops, and they were tough and they were good, and they were in New York cops or had the crap kicked out of them by illegal aliens. They were trying to break up a fight and suddenly the mob turned
on the two police officers. They were kicked in the head, they were beaten, they were punched, and one of those cops is going to have traumatic brain injuries. The other one is injured and he was released from the hospital, but Nonetheless, when they got to court that afternoon, more cops showed up. They arrested the perpetrators. It's all on video. It's not a question did this happen or did not happen. And the prosecutor in New
York City did not request a bond of any type. And the judge should have stepped in and said there will be a bond in there because the fear of flight. In other words, lock them up for beating up a cop, committing a felony on a cop. Instead of that, they gave them no bond. They walked out the door. There was reporting the last few days that they are on their way to California on bus to go back to Mexico. And do you think sometimes a small incident speaks to larger problems.
Would you anticipate in the days ahead that'll be a reawakening of what New York City should do with illegal migration or not. Well, I believe it's going to be ignored again. The New York City has been ignoring the impact of illegal immigration in their city and on the citizens of New York, on the citizens of the United States for a long time, and they're continuing to do so. What they're asking for is more money to be able to process them
and somehow house them more effectively. So the taxpayers across the United States are helping out New York. You know, the biggest tragedy in this whole effort by Langford and McConnell is just trying to reset underneath the Biden administration what is
normal. It is not normal for a sovereign nation to have five thousand people coming across their border illegally, to be able to show up in New York or Chicago or any other city USA and be able to perpetrate the types of actions that yours just describing right now on law abiding citizens and the law enforcement people who are here for us in the blue. So it is a new normal. They're trying to say that five thousand's just fine. Zero is what
a foreign nation should expect from its illegal immigration. We need to have immigration, we need to have it open in a way that's positive for this nation's interests, but it doesn't have to be illegal. We're two thirds of what's going on. It's just coming across the border and impacting people in our cities the way you've just described at numbers USA dot org. You have a study
about the environmental concerns, the Piedmont Spraul study. It says the following that population growth in the region of North Carolina South Carolina is driving sprawl eighty six percent of the loss of open space per capital and consumption is responsible for the other environmental endorsements of US population stabilization. I would think liberals care greatly about
the environment as I do. What impact on these don't know ten million, twenty million, fifty million will have on just the issue of the environment and what that means for highways and pollution. Speak to that number about liberals should be concerned with this, but they're not. Well, you know, the members of NumbersUSA dot com and anyone can join at our website Numbers USA dot
com. It does speak to unified focus on the impact of numbers on the environment as well as on law and order, as well as on jobs and wages. I have people who are really quite liberal on the left of many many issues, but are in absolute agreement that we need to secure the border and we need to have a sensible immigration policy. And I have people who
are very far in the right who have the exact same agreement. This is one of the few areas that Americans across the ideological spectrum are in agreement on that we need to reduce the impact of illegal immigration into our nation and there is environmental impact. The sprawl studies are available. You can do spraw studies dot com and you'll be able to find more and more studies. We do one for a variety of different states. We just released Texas, we just
released Idaho. We're going to be doing well on Yellowstone because the impact is even occurring in our national parks at this point in time. So there's great sovereignty in our nation and as great resources, part of it is our environment. It needs to be protected as well. I always say follow the money and follow the power. Twenty thirty is going to be a census, and
because the constitution counts persons and not citizens. Is part of the goal of the liberal Democratic Party, not the Democratic Party of our fathers and mothers, but rather the current Democratic Party. Twenty thirty is coming what in six years.
Persons are counted for population census and not citizens. So the more the Democrats put citizens slash persons in California, Illinois, all the Pennsylvania, New York that's going to give them more power in the Congress because states that have a responsible approach toward immigrations, such as Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Florida, and Texas, they're going to lose representation in the Congress, while these
high population states will increase. So do you think possibly the goal here by the Democrats, And you might add James mass up numbers USA At ten or fifteen years ago, when Barack Hussein Obama was in office, he spoke on immigration similar to the way you and I speak today. It must be stopped. People can't come in the country illegally, is what Obama and Biden said,
and that's changed completely. Do you think there's a political motive here of the progressive Marxist Democrats to have more and more persons living in various states so they have more power in the House of Representatives. I think the short answer is yes. I don't know if they will achieve that objective birth the outcome they expect will be what they anticipate, but I think that is one of
the objectives. Its effects on the local area when people are trying to provide driver's licenses, which might allow them to be able to vote in local it's when you have communities such as our nation's capital saying anyone who's been resident in the last thirty days can vote in locial elections. It absolutely is impacting the voter profile. And of course how the different districts are arranged based on the
population, so there will be that impact. The interesting thing though, is is Jim Robbo is one of our vice presidents and been involved in this for twenty seven years, wrote a book recently called Political Migrants, The Hispanic Voters on the Move, And what we find is is for Hispanic voters, now, these are US citizens who are naturalized, who have been here for a
generation or two. They have moved from being a democratic Republican bloc to almost forty seven to forty nine percent of them voted more in a Republican orientation in the last election midterm elections. So those who are coming to us from the Southern hemisphere in Central America who are not criminals, because there are criminals coming in, there are terrorists coming in. But those who are just people coming here for economic purposes, in a generation or two, they're going to be
voting in the Republican orientation. They want that border closed as well. One of the strongest voices today is the Hispanic US citizen saying, no, Moss, we don't want anymore. We know what's coming in. It's not what's good for America. And I'm an American, so I think that there's going to be an unexpected outcome of that. But in the short term, yes, redistricting can occur, and it would occur based on the population of where the where people are in the United States. Now, lastly, let's say
November the fifth of this year, James Massive NumbersUSA dot org. Things go awry, whether it's Michelle Obama or whether it's Gavin Newsom, or whether it's Kamala Harris, or whether it's Joe Biden is re elected or elected, and we go through another beginning in twenty twenty five, another four to eight year
cycle of open borders. That may be good for business for Numbers USA and people contributing, But the fact of the matter is, let's jump at about seven to ten years from now, and the policies of Joe Biden have continued to operate into the twenty thirties. What does America look like? Well, America doesn't look like America today. In fact, this is one of the most significant social changes to our nation that is occurring. And in fact,
it's interesting. One hundred years ago, in nineteen twenty four, there was an immigration law that was placed and it basically stopped immigration, and it had a number that was correct a low number of people who allowed legally in the United States, but it basically excluded people from all different types of nations, so it was very discriminatory from a national level, but it had the number
right. In the nineteen sixties, we had the reverse of that, where they got the people right, where they opened it up that people could come to us from any nation and add the value that we want immigrants to be able to add. But they opened up the number and it dramatically grew. On the legal side, it dramatically grew from two hundred and sixty thousand to almost a million legal immigrants coming in to the United States. Those are fifty
year blocks. We stand today at an opportunity to get it right, where we get the number right, which is a lower number than what's currently today, probably lower than a million legal immigrants, let alone to two million illegal immigrants, and we are able to bring in the best and brightest and those people who can actually add value to our nation. Those two things need to both happen. That's what immigration reform would truly be. That's what a sensible
immigration policy is. And it allows for the ability to still respond to acute issues throughout the world. It allows for us to be able to address short labor if we actually have it, but it most importantly protects the United States citizens so that what's coming into the nation actually benefits us as a nation. And that's a sensible immigration policy if we have the opportunity now to do it. But we could find ourselves way off that mark. What a novel thoughts.
The words on the Statue of Liberty in the nineteenth century do not apply in the twenty first century, and we must change. James Massive NumbersUSA dot org. All the facts. Information is there. People can join. And now once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We're warning the American people. Let's see what happens in November. James Massa,
thank you very much. Thank you. Bill. Let's continue. At First Financial Bank, we have five percent apy on money market accounts and high rates on CDs.