12-15-23 Bill Cunningham Show

Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this glorious Friday afternoon in the tri State. Of course, Bengals kickoff tomorrow about one oh five vikings in town, and there's a heartbeat when it comes to the Bengals maybe making into the playoffs. Our coverage starts about nine o'clock tomorrow morning, plus later on about one hour we have Brian Kilmead's going to be with us from Fox News. But until then. On Wednesday, Ohio lawmakers voted to ban transgender girls from

female sports and to restrict the medical care of transgender miners. I guess the headline is that doctors in the state of Ohio, assuming Mike DeWine signs the bill, which is questionable at this point, would prescribe. It would keep doctors from prescribing hormones, puberty blockers, or gender reassignment surgery before that Ohio kid turns eighteen years old, and a change on Wednesday also would allow Ohio

residents already receiving hormones or puberty blockers to continue. Joining you and I now is the great Senator Steve Huffman of Miami County more or less, and Senator welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show, And can you tell the American people the three or four headlines of the bill that you voted for and that sits on the governor's desk as we speak. Give me the three or four headlines. I think you summed it up pretty well. But no puberty blockers,

no hormones, no surgeries under eighteen. But you also forgot a second component of this that high school students, college athletes could not change if they're assigned as a male, could not say that they're a female and then play in those high school sports. And so does this also would this also apply to like Ohio State or University of Toledo or Miami? Does it apply there too? It says members of the NCAA, a A or the or A junior

college. Yes. Okay, let's talk about gender dysphoria in general, which is a medical condition. Until recently, it was viewed as a psychiatric condition that required some sort of intervention by a psychologists or a psychiatrist. But can you explain what is gender dysphoria that someone who is biologically one sex mentally and feels that they're of the other sex. Okay, and so this, yeah,

so, and sometimes that there are some that have. According to the literature, about ninety nine point nine percent of us aren't in that category, but about point one percent is in the category of someone who thinks like, I look physically like a male, but I think I'm a female. And

in the past, how was that dealt with? Well, probably when when you were growing up, it was totally ignored, you know, and that it's at times it's been just cross dressing, and that it's you know, coming to these hormones and surgeries recently, and as far as the uh, the activist on one side claim that you're gonna one one argument I hear that the issue we voted on, which was State Issue one, we were told during the campaign that this had nothing to do with gender re assignment surgery or

sports. But now the arguments I hear on the other side is that this might violate what we just passed relative to abortion, which is a reproductive issue, because if one changes one's gender, it affects one's reproductive abilities. Is it in the back of your mind somehow that State Issue one impacts the legislation you voted for on Wednesday or not. In my opinion, it doesn't but I think at some point the Supreme Court may have to be asked to answer

that question, but in my opinion, it doesn't. Senator, what do you we had a children's hospital here in Cincinnati is a fine facility. It was voted the best children's hospital in the country when you voted for this, and it's on the governor's desk awaiting signature. That children's hospital issued a statement saying that the laws interfering somehow with doctor patient relationships and also interfering with the relationship of a mother or father who wants their child to go through this gender

reassignment surgery beginning with hormones. How did you process the idea that many of the children's hospitals, including I would assume nationwide and Columbus opposes this, did

this way into your thinking at all? It did. I will say that their association and every children's hospital in the state was against this, But I think it came down to, you know, we have a duty to protect the hollow highlights, and I think that's what it came down to, is to protect them till they were able to make their own logical decision at an appropriate age. And so I would assume that the activists have a different viewpoint.

In fact, I'm getting a text from one right now that deals with the issue of was there any testimony that ten years from the switch as a teenager, that there was buyer's remorse? And I've done this topic. This topic didn't didn't exist till about two or three years ago. By the way, I've been doing this for about forty years. And gender reassignment surgery was perceived as mutilating a child, which was illegal, and hormonal therapy was brand

new. But can you tell the American people what percentage or ten years after the switch, Let's say this person who's gone transgender is twenty five, thirty years old, and how much buyer's remorse has there been in that regard. I can't give you a percent or a number. But we did have a number of people that came and testified, and you know that that expressed that

they wish this law was in place. They would have not have had surgery, they would not have had the hormones, and they really did have buyer's remorse. And this just delays. It doesn't say after you're eighteen, okay, let's I want to do this and you can go down that path with your own desires. But you know, right now, my understanding, nobody in the state is doing the gender surgery. But you know this bill is going to prevent that that if someone was going to move in that direction like

other states have, it's not gonna be able to do it. Do you have a sense as we sent here this Friday afternoon, the Governor Mike Dwine's gonna sign it or not? What is your crystal ball? Tell you? I spoke to him a couple of days ago about this bill, and I know he has a lot of reservations. The governor, as you know, truly looks after the children in the state, and I think he's gonna do

what his conscience says, or he may just not do anything. And you know, ten days after it's given to him, it just becomes law without a signature, And I'm not really sure what he do at this point. Senator Steve Hoffman, do you have the votes to overturn the governor's a veto if he decides to veto this? Do you have the votes to overturn that? Correct? The boat the House and Senate do. But there's also some people will at times will flip their vote because they don't want to. They

don't want to do it. Override is that they don't feel that it rises to that level. You know, we the House over rowed the smoking ban earlier this week, and we'll see if the Senate takes that up. But as the vote count goes, we had enough to override the veto are you comfortable when you go to bed at night and that your head hits the pillow?

Are you comfortable you did the right thing? I think so, you know, delaying this till a child can truly make their own decision, I think is the right thing to protect them and and and so that they don't have buyer's remorse. And so if I know there's lots of tom boys, that the term was tom boyce years and years decades ago, that you're a tomboy, that some girls want to do boy type things, and some boys want to do girl type things. They're human type things, they're not gender

specific. And are you you've been around a while. I'm shocked that this is an issue. I mean, if somebody had told me five years ago that lawmakers would have to get together to make sure that teenage boys and girls aren't given permanent changes to their genitelia based upon hormones and or surgery. I would not have thought this is possible that somehow there'd be a large group of people, generally with a multicolored hair, screaming, hollering and shouting about you

and those who don't understand health needs of a child. How do you separate in your mind the idea that this has suddenly become an issue with Statistically, it's about er point one percent of gender dysphoria, but according to some polling, twenty five percent of high school boys and girls in Ohio are uncertain about their own sex, their own gender, their own sexuality. The whole culture

is filled with sexual ideations every day in a regular basis. TikTok, etc. Tells girls to be shameful of their own bodies, and it tells them to have these stupid challenges. And we live in a society where I can't believe this is even an issue to be discussed or approved by the legislature. Say that a sixteen year old boy or girl cannot take a permanent type hormonal therapy that'll change what they are, and that it's almost impossible to move back

five or ten years later from a childish decision. You probably, Senator, did things when you were fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old that you look back on and say, man, that was stupid. I know I've done things in my life as a teenager. I'm saying, my god, that was stupid, and I can't believe I did that. And so do you see yourself as a lawmaker more or less overriding the opinion of a parent and a children's hospital because some critics might say you know best, how would you

respond to that? You know, I've heard that criticism, and you know, I don't know how we got to this point. I agree with you that that I never foresaw this, you know, almost fifty eight years old. I never foresaw something like this. Whatever happened, But you know, growing up, they were you know, they were tomboys, and people dealt with it. And I think it's a difficult situation for everybody, from the

parents to the children, to the doctors to the hospital. So, you know, as the General Assembly, it feels we need to protect the children to just say there's a pause to your appropriate appropriate age to make that decision. And isn't it fair to say that the culture is telling teenage boys and girls that to go through this hormonal therapy and then eventually surgery is normal and natural. It is something that you should do so that the real person can

come out. And I'm listening to these arguments, i'mthing, well, if the real person is going to come out, can you wait till you're eighteen,

nineteen or twenty to make that decision? And the activists say no, that if a mother or father in a hospital say, okay, this child is fourteen years old, they suffer from a hormonal dysfunction of one type genderness for you, and we're going to begin to process of hormonally changing their their DNA in a sense which cannot be done, and that we're gonna make it a big political issue and beat Senator Steve Huffman over the head with it. You would have thought, what world do I live in? Here? Again?

I agree with you. I ever thought we would get to this spot, and uh, you know, we just have to keep moving on. And uh, you know, I think, uh a lot of these negative social things. You know, people keep looking at the General Assembly and emphasizing on but I think we need to also look at the good things we do, look at the three point one billion dollar tax cut. We put in

all the money we're giving to public education at choice. The General Assembly does does a lot of good things, and uh, sometimes the media just likes to talk about the more controversial stone. You know, the media is not on your side when it comes to hormonal therapy and generous for you, and you understand they think you're small town lawmakers. I don't know what the hell's

going on, but I'd put up with the media and their criticism. Secondly, and lastly, about a minute remaining, there's a headline in the Inquiry this morning, Ohio lawmakers, that means you deadlocked on changes to recreational marijuana. The Senate passed it. I had the Governor on Tuesday or Wednesday and he said one percent. I'm on board with the Senate and the House is doing nothing. Is the headline accurate? Are you deadlocked on changes to recreational

marijuana? Well, the speaker who spoke and he was going to get home and we weren't going to do anything, but hopefully come January we'll be able to get something. It's look, the Senate is not looking to get rid of recreational The people have spoken to that. We're trying to do some things around the edge of public smoking. I don't want to sit at a ball game of some guy smoking a joint next to my tan. You know, open containers and cars, different life, see things. Twelve plants, twelve

plants. We're trying a lot of things. We're trying to do is to discourage the black market and have a productive and safe for the citizens of Ohio. Because right now, as we sit here this Friday afternoon, the state issue too past, which means that I can walk around downtown Cincinnati, wherever you can smoke a cigarette, you can smoke a joint right now, and right now, I can grow marijuana in my home right now, and you can grow it, you can possess it now. You can't buy it now.

You can't buy it for nine months, and that's just driving people to the to the black market. And we were trying to make it effective immediately, and you should go to the medical dispensaries where we know there's good quality products. You would be able to buy it now. So we're going to keep working on this. I spoke to the government again earlier this week, and I know the Senate and the Governor's cater to get this dat as soon

as we can. Can you put up with all the criticisms from the transgender crowd with three kinds of colored hair? Can you put up with that? I can't. It was an interesting day the other day because on one side of the Senate was hearings off the transgender and on all the other side was Marijuana Committee discussing that. So there's an eclected group. In a few years

back. Could you have imagined Ohio overwhelmingly legalizing marijuana recreationally and uh a bill in front of you which would permit and allow transgender rights and boys to play girls sports. Would you have thought, what world am I living in? I would agree, you know, I would look around and think I was in California? But where the hell am I? Never thought this is impossible? All right, we're Senator, good luck in the future. We'll see

what happens. We're going to try to find out today Monday if the Governor's going to sign it. In the past he has opposed it, but it appears that there's enough votes to override the governor's veto either way. But once again, Senator Steve Huffman, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and keep doing what you're doing. Senator, thank you very much. You take care of Bill. Merry Christmas all too, God bless America. Thank you very

much. Senator. Right, let's continue with more. And no one here or anywhere wants anything bad to happen to any kid who believes that their heart and soul is in a different body than their mind can conjure. And that is that. I want nothing bad to happen to some kid who think born female, that's suddenly their male, or vice versa. It's a it's a perplexing issue. In the past it was a psychiatric disorder. Now it's become like a human right. So we'll see what happens down the road. Your

reaction. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, Bill Cunningham, Bengals kicking off tomorrow about one five right here on news Radio seven hundred WLW trist each Chevrolet buyers. This is it by New Roads Today. Now have you with me this glorious Friday afternoon in the Tri State at the weather's great Bengals playing, And this half an hour is brought to you by McKinley Mortgage and Paul Luck. Looking into my left mortgage rates have

dipped. Now it's a perfect time to call McKinley Mortgage. Seven night. We finally hooked up with Brian kill Meat of Fox News in the morning,

Fox and Friends. He'll be with us sometime after one o'clock today and more a little birdie, you kind of whisper in my ear that it's very likely, despite the protestations of some, that Governor Mike Dwaine is likely to veto the bill because he has said before that he thinks these decisions about transgender girls playing who males playing girl sports should be handled by association and by school districts and not by the government in Columbus, because Mike DeWine has said before that

if it was put to a vote in Cincinnati or Columbus or Dayton, likely get a different result than put to a vote in Claremont, Warren or Butler County. And so the governor has said before that he'd rather have these issues determined locally and not by state government. And we'll see what happens down the road. As Senator Huffman said, it could be about ten days. The governor could do neither and not veto it or sign it, which in ten

days from Wednesday, it would become the law of the land. Now, for those who are happy about the decision of the governor to let local organizations decide certain transgender rights, I would point out that the House and the Senate and Columbus both have enough votes to override the veto, and so that's a procedure that would take place sometime in the first part of January. I know who has challenges with a teenage boy or girl, would have anything but my

sympathy in dealing with some mental difficulties that the teenagers have. I know there was a long time in my life I was kind of lost, and I get it completely, probably you too. And there's ideations all of us have that were somehow locked in some wrongful body, and that the government will be there to protect kids making decisions. There's all kinds of things those under eighteen can't do, including drinking a beer, having tequilaus, smoking a cigarette.

There's a dozens and dozens of things that are fourteen fifteen, sixteen year old cannot do, including driving a motor vehicle. Because we understand that children under the age of eighteen that are fourteen fifteen, sixteen often have bad judgment I know I had bad judgment. Did you have bad judgment when you were sixteen and the horm owns are raging and the culture is telling you to feel and

act in a certain way. Yeah. Absolutely. Instead of point one percent of our population having gender dysphoria, the number can now be as high as ten percent because it is considered culturally socially acceptable to be an alternative lifestyle and you get attention, and you get you get care, and you get to focus, and so I get that completely. Maybe point one percent is too low. Maybe it's point two percent have gender dysphoria that need to be treated

at some point when you when you're an adult. But we don't let a fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year old make adult decisions that will have long term impacts for the rest of their life, especially when it appears. According to Riley Gains the Great UK Kentucky Swimmer, that the majority of boys annual girls who transition ten years later have buyers remort they think they made a serious mistake.

And all this House Bill sixty eight does is say that decision should be delayed until you're eighteen years old, and you can wait twelve to twenty four months, and if you get to be eighteen, nineteen and twenty, you want to go through a home runal therapy and then have the unkindnest cut of all that's on your side of the table. But there's always been a role of government to look after children in one sense or another, sometimes quite unsuccessfully.

But the goal has always been there to look after a fifteen year old who's going to make a life altering decision without having all the information available and without too many influences of others. But Mike DeWine looks at this a little bit differently. He might change his mind later today, Monday or Tuesday, but at this point he's leaning toward vetoing the bill, and then the House and the Senate must go through the process of overriding the veto, which may

occur. The bill blocks transgender female student athletes from participating in girls' sports, and you have to go into the locker room more or less reflecting your sex at birth. And why is all this happening? I brought this up with Senator Huffman about ten years ago. From maybe ten to twenty years before that, there were literally hundreds of millions, probably billions of dollars donated to the Human Rights Campaign HRC in Washington, d C. In order to effectuate recognized

a civil gay marriage all over the country. And they had a staff of one hundred and fifty to two hundred. They had research papers, they had lobbyists, they had individuals and state capitals all over America lobbying to get civil gay marriage approved. And many states at that point had approved gay marriage gay unions, the liberal states, of course, California, Oregon, Washington,

Massachusetts, New York. So what began to happen, and I saw this in court, is that because of the US Constitution, every state must give full faith and credit to the acts and warrants of other states. So that means if you were married, say in Georgia, and you and your spouse moves to Cincinnati, that the Ohio courts must recognize the marriage that began in

Georgia or any other state. And so what happened in the court system in d R court domestic relations that over the years, because of Proctor and Gamble, or because of fit Third Banker Centas, whatever it might be, Western and Southern individuals would move into Hamilton County or Claremont County who were gay and married legally in New York and things want awry, as often happens in every

marriage. And so the gay couple married in New York State living in Clermont County would go to the Claremont County Domestic Relations Court and want their marriage to be dissolved or go through a divorce and if children are involved, as far as custody and child support and alimony, dividing all the assets. So the courts in Ohio did not recognize gay marriage. So the courts in Ohio were saying to these couples, I'm sorry, we have no jurisdiction. We can't

hear your case. They couldn't go to municipal court, they couldn't go to probate court, they couldn't go to the General Trial Division. They had to do what they were stuck in limbo. They could not go back to New York State to have their marriage dissolved or to get a divorce because the assets were not in the Empire State. They're in the Buckeye State. And besides that, you have to live in New York State for eight months before you

have access to the court system on a divorce. And so suits were filed in federal court claiming that Ohio is illegally and unconstitutionally not recognizing my legal marriage in the state of New York. And so the case worked its way up to the Supremes about ten years ago. The Supremes ruled that somewhere in the Constitution is a gay marriage, and that because of the Full Faith and Credit clause of the US Constitution, Ohio, Kentucky, or Indiana must recognize the

marriages in other states that were legally formed. When those individuals move into Ohio, Kentucky, or Indiana and they live here sufficiently time to establish venue that they have to have access to the court system. And so in one fell Swoop, I think it was Justice Kennedy that wrote the opinion five to four saying that every state must recognize the marriage conducted in some other state for jurisdictional

divorce purposes. And so they essentially they legalize gay marriage. They have large numbers of people working on behalf a gay marriage, and one fell swoop, with the stroke of a pen five to four, all the reasons for their existence were gone. Well what do we do now we won? Well, the smart thing to do would be to say you know what. We needed to disband because basically we've succeeded with our mission, which we didn't think we ever would, and we did by one vote in the US Supreme Court.

And it's because so many states enacted gay marriage in their state. The other states had to recognize that marriage when those couples moved into a state into a red state, so they swept it aside. Meetings were held, what do we do. We have large numbers of donations coming in, we have buildings, we have offices, we have benefits to pay, we have research papers, we have lobbyists all over the place. They said, well, why

don't we try transgender rights? Is that going to work? And they thought about other things they might try to keep the band together, keep the money coming. Number one, you had have lots of research. Number two, you have to have the medical community buy into it. Number three, you

had to have the tech giants continuing to fund this kind of stuff. So they came up with the idea of transgender rights, which is a because homosexual rights have been now incorporated within the US Constitution, I think our society is wonderfully free of invidious discrimination when it comes to race, or religion or gender.

We have leadership of women and African Americans, Hispanics and gay individuals every place, everywhere, and I'm fine with it based upon a meritocracy, and I think everyone else is basically ninety five to ninety eight percent of us say, okay, that's the way America is today. Let's get the best out

of everybody. When I went to law school in nineteen seventy one, we had two female law students and seventy eight male law students at the University of Toledo, and I specifically recall professors saying to that class, to those two women that are sitting there on the front row, why are you here? And the rest of us kind of chortled because it was a male profession, Well I want to be a lawyer, And there was a sense that, you know, I went up to them afterwards, good, what's your name,

I'm Bill Cunningham. Nice to have you. I wanted to feel make them feel as women welcome in a completely male environment. Some fifteen years later, when my wife went University of Cincinnati law school, it was the first freshman class. Well, the majority of the first year law students were female. Right now, that is absolutely the case judges, ceo justices, police

chiefs, sheriffs. There is no discrimination of some invidious character against a person who's gay or female, etc. The only real discrimination taking place today is against the Jews, but that's a different matter because of an of Semitism. And so they switched from gay marriage to transgender rights. That has now metastasized to boys stripping down nude inside girls' locker rooms to go swimming, or whatever

it might be. It's now morphed into something nobody could have conceived. We should not allow a fifteen or sixteen year old to make a life altering decision as a teenage boy or girl that the majority ten years later have serious reservations

about buyer's remorse, Why did I do that? And the fact that a doctor or a hospital or a parent says it's okay doesn't make it right, because all it does is delay the inevitable, if that's the case, until a person is eighteen, and then have at it, go get them. And so the human rights campaign has now latched on not so much to gay rights, which I think is part of the American experience today. Without a question, I would go to a competent a gay doctor a gay lay.

It wouldn't make any difference to me. Zero ziltch nada. I believe in merit, and almost all the people around me an authority or female. And that's okay because they earned it. I know my wife earned it. I know Justice Sharon Kennedy in High Supreme Court. She earns it. I get it, no problem, Fiji share from Hamlety County. I mean, she's

earned it, no problem, and I get it. It's wonderful. But there's a line at which and parental loki, which is in location a parent right that government may say to a sixteen year old, you know what, why don't you delay that decision until you get to be eighteen. It's like an adult decision made by a juvenile that almost any other aspect of life we don't allow. So why would we allow this? The answer is the media

and the push by the left almost demands it. And so Mike DeWine issued a statement quote, this issue is best addressed outside of government through individual sports leagues and athletic associations, including the OHSAA. He said that in twenty twenty one on a similar issue. So he's stuck now between a rock and a

hard place. Mike's a pretty traditional kind of a guy, but I also think he's a small government guy that wants local individuals because the decision by Cincinnati Public Schools might be different than the decision by Madeira Schools might be different. So let them decide how to run these issues. And I get that too,

So we'll see what occurs. Let's continue. Coming up in about ten minutes or so, We've scheduled Brian Kilmead Fox and Friends new book out he has about Teddy Roosevelt and Booker T. Washington to talk about race relations and more. The line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand and every teenage, almost every teenager has problems of one type or another. I know I did, probably you do. I did

not. It would have been horrible for me to make a decision when I'm fourteen years old of a life altering consequence relative to hormonal therapy and or surgery gender reassignment surgery. When I made that with a childish mind, were perhaps led by well intended adults in the medical community, and maybe a parent or two. But as a person, I'm glad I did not have to confront the idea that I would make a life altering adult decision. When I'm fifteen

years old, I hope that's not the case. And when you're eighteen, as Senator Huffman just said, have at it. We're talking about children making lifetime adult decisions with a juvenile mind, and we hardly ever allow that to take place. Let's continue twelve fifty five Home of Your Bengals News Radio seven hundred WLW. It's Horns versus Clause, Jake the Steak, what's it on?

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who's also a prolific author. And I love the connections of Brian Kilmead's books to today's events and how they had origins maybe one hundred to two hundred years ago. The last two books was The President and the Freedom Fighter, about

Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglas in their battle to save our soul. Recent book, out about a month ago, is Teddy and Booker T. How two American icons blazed the paths for racial equality and the Booker T. Washington was born in eighteen fifty six, a slave, became a counselor to the President. More and first of all, Brian kill me, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Why did you choose these two to write your most recent book, Teddy and Booker T? Why these two characters? Well, so

much for citing the last one of the president freedom fighter. I also want to prove to people that I'm not ducking our history. No one's proud of slavery, no one's proud of segregation. No one's saying Jim Crow with the good old days. Nobody thinks that. And I just said, why don't I just bring people to a difficult time, And I apologize for the announcement. I'm actually going down to Washington interview Kevin McCarthy. I just found out, so I hopped on the sell it real quick, yeah, and one

in between cars. But what I wanted to do is tackle another guy that was born with such bad asthma, that did not think he was going to survive childhood, and that was Teddy Roosevelt. And then to see these two unlikely friends combined, and he looked at Booker T. Washington as a great American. And Booker T. Was mentored by some of the most impressive Americans that you might not have heard of, General Armstrong over at Anthon College.

And then you might see Missus Rutner, You've probably never heard of her over in West Virginia. But all these people saw greatness in this former slave who ever had shoes until he was nine years old, never spilt to anything but a dirt floor, and didn't know how to read or write until he was ten, and he ends up being the most in the most influential people of the generation. So I just thought, why don't I talk about how these two came together, tell the story in parallel, and then see how they

met, and then go from there. And Booker t of course was not formally trained, but he was brilliant. He also found a Tuskegee Institute. One of the things he did, which was fabulous, talk about the first meeting between these two characters. Because Teddy Roosevelt should not have been the president of nineteen oh one from Ohio when William McKinley was shot assassinate. In today's world, he probably would have lived back in nineteen oh went he didn't talk

about the first meeting between these two and why it took place. And they thought he was going to live, as you know, Bill, they thought he was going to be fine. You know, they say, it looks like you know, they got tell you Roosevelt, who's on a hike. And then I say, listen to president of the shop, he's going to be fine. Next thing, you know, they said he died, said, you're kidding me. Hoops on a train gets home. And prior to that, when his vice president, he read up from Slavery, which was

the biography autobiography of Booker T. Washington. He couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it when I read it. That's what turned me on to this book. And he reads up from Slaver and he says to his wife, He's like a mike crazy, is this the best story you ever heard? So Edith reads it and says, we got to meet this guy. So they say, can we meet? They meet in New York City April to have nineteen oh one. They said, you know, I got to come down to T, says Key. He says, you're advited. It looks

see how we can work together. I want to be president one day. I don't know if it's going to happen. Next thing, you know, the meeting's called off because Roosevelt becomes president and he holds to his word. He makes Booker T. One of his key advisors in the South. He's like, I need needs to judges, postmasters, I need people I can

trust. I'm gonna trust your judgment and character now we don't think that's a big deal, you and I and maybe our audience, But back then it was a huge deal at this point in fact that they came together and he was instrumental. But then Teddy Roosevelt started getting According to your book, Teddy and Booker T caught some serious flak from meeting with a black man and describe the flack that he caught for that. Yeah, thanks for reading it.

I mean, basically, it's what John McCain referred to after the Boston Barack Obama And just because Booker T was in Washington and he's running Tuskegee and he gets worded the president hears he's there, in stends a messenger and says come from dinner, and there's a hesitation. He's like, I don't know if you know, I don't know if that should be doing this. But for Teddy Roosevelt, he did the same thing as governor. You're black or white. If I'm in the middle of the meetings, just sleep over. And

he had no problem with that. He didn't think America had a problem with that, but they did. They couldn't believe the black man ate with the white man, with the President of United states who was white because the most famous headlines you can imagine, I put him in the book and it really set back their relationship, not personally, but they had to turn it back and say, listen, we got to be smarter about this. You know, there's certain parts of the country is just not ready. So let's deal

with the country. Part of the country it is. Let's work together, but let's bring it down. And I know people listening say, why is it a big deal of black, white American Indian? Why does it matter? Back then, it mattered because reconstruction fell apart after the Compromise of eighteen seventy seven, right and behaves and all the controversy with that that people always refer to when they talk about the Trump and the problems with the delegates,

they always refer to this. We're just coming together of the Civil War and there's about five states with the electrocologists fell apart. So they okay, president is no problem. But if it Standuel Tilden is not going to be president, then we were going to have a deal live these states. But these states will get rid of the Union soldiers, we'll start covering ourselves. And he said you better out walk back all the reforms we put in place, and they said we won't, but they did. And next thing, you

know, we got Jim Crow laws, we have poll Daxes Bench. So at that point in eighteen seventy seven, there was a deal made in which the Republican would take the presidency on condition that federal troops will leave the South. And that is what brought about the ku Klux Klan, and that's what the Democrats in the South required. And so to get the presidency, Rutherford B. Hayes had to agree to do certain things and he did it.

So then all hell broke loose over the next twenty four to twenty five years. And at least Teddy Roosevelt had the idea, you know what, I'm going to try to make this damn thing work, and he had somebody, but he caught such serious flag for meeting with a black man in the first dinner in the White House. I would assume ever, all those slaves I think built the White House. He caught some serious flag for that. And they did they ever meet again in person for the rest of his presidency.

Yeah, they did, but they would do it at four o'clock. At eleven o'clock they wouldn't get awareed about dinner or lunch or anything like that. And they were just smarter about it. And they would get together and they would meet, and he would join the Tuskegee board. He would give the commencement address, and he would be the one run of the people giving a eulogi. The Booker T. Washington win when he passes away. So that's how close they were. And that's how he wrote the forward to one of

his last books. So this is a relationship that really was one of mutual respect. And Bill I also think about this. People say, you know, how did they help? How about role model? You look up and you see these guys together. You listen to Tate Roosevelt and he sings the praises of Booker T. Washington. Booker T. Washington sing the praises of

the president. William McKinley was what was the first to speak at Tuskegee and to see if if you're a young black man or a young white man, you look up and say, hey, mom, deed, these people have no problem. They don't worry about the colatures dead right, And that's what

you needed. It shouldn't be a benefit or a cost And I'll say this in twenty eight when Obama was elected and he came out on that stage at Grant Park, and they had his wife and his two girls with him, who were of tender years at that point, and I watched Jesse Jackson crying, and the media was filled with the idea, Okay, we're over the hump. Race doesn't matter that much. We have a black president, a black Attorney general, We've had black Supreme Court justices, black leaders of this

and black leaders of that. Is time to move on. Can you all rate, just briefly about what happened to that moment. I look at your book, Teddy and Booker t from nineteen oh one to the fight, the squabbles until twenty eight when Obama's elected, and there's tears everywhere. Let's get moving. How come America, Brian Kilmead has become so racial after the moments on election night in Grand Park. I'll just offer my opinion, just from doing this every day on radio and TV. I don't think it's nearly as

divided as it seems. I think the average person, you know, you stop asking the directions, you go to a hotel, you don't think about how many blast people, how many white people. But number two is I think that there's a sense of retribution among some perhaps in the minority community, of like, oh, we're going to fix the things the way they were and now we're gonna own up to it. And that's not what Lincoln ever talked about. That's how what Douglas ever talked about. That's not what Booker

Q. Washington ever talked about. You know. Famously Lincoln was like, no, we didn't win a warld we gotta bring this country back together. There'll be no punishment for seceeding. We gotta bring the country back together. Frederick Douglas would push any proud and speak and he did great writer and his newspaper and said things got to change. But he wasn't looking to get back to the people that owed him that he had to escape to freedom, that

tried to get it back. In fact, he ends up going to see him as he was in it the past days, to visit him and say, no hard feelings, and that's who we got to get back to it. You know, it's not where we started, it's where we are. And there might be certain hurdles in life didn't matter, you know, they don't like the Irish, or they don't like Italians, or they like people that are taller or short or whatever it is. That's part of the American

experience. And I just think we got to understand that we just want an opportunity, fixed outcomes. We got to get back to that. And I don't think it's nearly as bad as Kaepernick made it worse, and US Women's National team made it worse. All the collapsing of the NFL and all those things made it worse. But I just think that now I think we're going to get to the point where we've got to go out of our way to say you're an American. We've got to stop with the black and the white

and the agent and all this stuff. And you know, if you want to organize your campaign and decide what neighborhoods to focus on, that's just tactics. It shouldn't be you divided under how who you like and who you don't like, and who you can trust and who you can't trust. I think you and I we get it, and I think more people get it like we did. Yeah, I believe. So I've practice in front of black judges, fellow black lawyers, fella radio talk show hosts, and you do

exactly the same thing every morning. I don't know. I think I have a tough schedule. I'm on six days a week. Hell, you're on from six hours every day at least between six am and noon. And then also you're on a night and you're a prolific author. And if somebody has said you were born New York City, wa about a minute remaining? You going back twenty or twenty five years and said, Brian kill me, this is your life as you're I believe you're about fifty eight to fifty nine years

old. This is the life that you've created the last twenty five years. Would you have been satisfied? Absolutely? I mean, this has exceeded my expectations. The only thing I said give myself credit for is to know how great my job was early in ninety six and ninety seven, because I took me twelve years to even get an interview to a place like this, And I just said, there is no grass green. What's the most of this? So can I do for Tony Snuff? Can I on the weekend show?

Could I be eligible to do a weekend show? You know? Can I go cover sports rather than go get another job that had it. I wanted to do it here and I think they appreciated it, and I don't. I don't worry about the money and if the money comes when you get there. One of my proudest moments was sports Phone. I was in nine seventy six, twenty three one three every seven minutes doing another update I mean twelve five hundred. But on my taxes I could write broadcaster and for that

I thought, Wow, I'm actually in the business. I can't believe it. Well, I called you off there that James Brown the hardest working man at Fox. I think Hannity works pretty hard, but I think Brian kill Me puts in more hours and has a lot of influences, and Brian keep it going. You make the connection between history and today. I look to get back to the day where Teddy and Booker t could come together and discuss problems. That race has no cost to you and race has no benefit to

you. It is simply you, as a person, represent no one, bite yourself, do the best you can can do, and the fact you're black or white or gay means nothing to me. It's what you do in your life. Think we're close. Let's let's go the rest of the way though, Brian kill made You're a great American and once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Get my best to everyone at Fox. Thank you very much. We thank God bless you. All Right,

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I don't know. It's pretty good. Well, I think you only. I think he only had like ten appearances with the Twins and then he got hurt last year. I don't get it. Unbelievable, Andy Mack. I don't know. I mean, I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to tell you though. I mean, but uh, let's see what what to say? Uh oh uh. In honor of Coney Island, you mentioned yesterday your favorite rides was the Tunnel of Love, the Wildcat, the Wildcat and Shooting Store. And also you like to go to

Moonlight Gardens. Yes, I did dance with the First Lady. Yes, Well, what about the Lost River? We did? I thought that was well. I did the Lost River. What about the log Flume, That's another one. I went down Turnpike where you drove the cars. I don't think I probably probably did better. And what they got out on the road. Now, what about the sky Ride? I remember that all the way across right. I remember the Tunnel of Love flying scooters. Pretty good stuff

there, and the tumble bug. You think it's possible that city council can seize control of Coney Island? What the city council incinnati? Is it? Someone needs to tell them it's not in the city. It's not in the city. Thanks in Anderson Township? Then go But where they're going to annex Anderson Township? Yes, they're gonna have Let me guess what brilliant person on city council wants to do this. I think it was Jeff kramerting that guy's

sloaney had them on. Well, didn't don't they know the boundaries of their own town? No? Well, what is this they want to keep? They want to keep the pool? Yea, for those with the big fat tattoos, go to the pool. I've been to that pool. Have you been to the pool? The pool's about as big as as half of this county. Three million gallons of water. City council wants it three million gallons of water? Three million m take out. Take that to who's going to

pay that water works bill? We'll have it. You know what, We'll have a levee. Well how about this, Well they can't do that, can they? No? I was gonna say that is a county. People want to get out of the city, and they want people to go into the city Anderson Township and the trustees there because I'm not going to do the City's gonna have to go with Alisha Reese and then they they they run the county, right, yeah, with an iron grip. Well, talk to

Ali, Well, talk to Denise Treehouse and Stephanie Stephanie Dumas. Yeah, talk to them. I mean, doesn't that guy know that? Does that guy know his own boundaries of his city? No, the Island Queen used to go from the public landing packed, go up to Coney Allen and back drop them off, right, come back and just go back and forth. Exactly. Those are the days. Yeah, I never did that, but that that was that Tunnel of Love is I spent my time along with the

Shooting Star and the Wildcat and the tumble Rumble. If you like the log flume that's gone, maybe city council will. Did you spend time with your better half on the sky? I was the nighth grader, she was the seventh grader, and she says, let's go to the Tunnel of Love. And I said, honey, I'm right behind you. Let's go and then you go to the tunnel of love. You don't recall that, No do?

I was with you don't tell me you're going to call her? She said, don't you ever call I was gonna say, don't do it. By the way, I got especially that topic. Got a text here from Pete Whitty on the west side. Is he is he in an annexed Cody Island city is going to seize Kenwood country Club? What? What? What? Wait a minute, Wait a minute, you're gonna have my seven iron here? Pull my dead cold fingers off that Wait a minute, is that

true? Where's the lpg A gonna go? Then? Don't know that's not coming back, by the way, but Pete Whitty says that, uh city of Cincinnati is going to seize ken What country Club? So I don't know what to tell you, But I mean that doesn't that councilman know where his city boundaries are? No, it has no clue. First, what would they do with the I mean, what else are you going to do with a pool? Then after that Norwood, the city of Cincinnati wants to seize

Coney Island Chembic country Club and Norwood, Great, let's have that. It I don't know. I've already got price, So what else do you want? Yeah, it's beyond my comprehension. Moved Sunlight pooled downtown. They want to get out of the city. I don't know, it's unbelievable. I just want to knock my head up against the wall with these people. What if you had Charmaine McGuffey tee it up against Chief Fiji, City of Cincinnati

versus Sheriff's office. Who do you like in that matchup? We're talking to the Army, the Navy, the air Force, get all the elements of the City of Cincinnati against Hamny County Sheriff's office. Who do you like? Because I guarantee you the sheriff is gonna defend Coney and as much as she can. But then you got this city under orders of city council to attack, and the seas Coney Island got there, but the pool anymore, well they went. Maybe they want the tunnel leave too. They got the Christmas

lights going. Which are you're just saying there's gonna be one hell of award. At some point you went the city cops or is this going to be like a hand to hand commas? Yes, like the I d F and Hamas Hamas Harambe's Harambe's texting me what Arambe? Now we got a scoop. Look at that, Look at Arambe. The spirit of Harambe lives at Coney Island. Well then then you got then you got problems, major problems. Right then I got a texta sacred ground. Rob Sanders, do not try

to seize Kentucky. We have guns, so you're gonna have an expansionist city. So after Coney, Norwood and Covington, so Aft tab can't get take him for Covington and Newport, then General Lisimo and Florence they better know better, they better they better not try to seize anything bell Tucky. Rob Sater says, we have guns. But it's like the city of Cincinnati wants to take over Bellevue and Gary Jeff. Oh that's too much, asked. I

don't know anybody wants and they want Covington too. When nobody wants Gary Jeff. Well, I'm just saying, except I respect and love. What would city council do with that port? I don't know. They want Kenvick Country Club. They want to take Reeves and United Newman and also have Kenwood Country. About California, California. I don't want California. That's a terrible state. No, No, I mean the golf course. Oh yeah, I don't know. But how about taking control of Covington. Can you see maybe

Fiji late at night? What about tab A La Napoleon rolling right across at this suspension bridge. I'd fall down under the weight, that's right. It could be crossing the aft to be crossing the Ohio right at the front half tabs Now? Would Rob Sanders be sitting there in the bunkers? A K A D. You didn't answer my question. What Sheriff's office McGuffey versus Thiji and the city cops? Who do you like? I'm taking Richard K.

Jones to white out exactly. Get Jones down here. The sheriff wants Westchester and everybody else. He wants to kick some ass. That's right, like mister, certainly like the wrestler along with PG Pureval. I don't know PG. I mean, you gotta know your I mean, no one, shut your mouth and you and your boundaries of the city. He wants. He seized the swimming pool. What's he gonna do with it? Move it? Move it down. You're gonna move We're you gonna move it down to the

off or right off of Columbia Parkway. Put it right next to the boat house about a mile. Go. Let Dean Gregor deal with it. There you go. I'm going to see a match up. The wise words for that, Cincinnati Mayor, know your role is shut your mouth. He cost us the super Bowl already, PG Pureval cost us the super Bowl. Where's he been? You haven't seen him with a told me to keep a low profile, okay, and he is. Well. The rail thing too is kind of not not not good. But they passed but not but that's been

the old behind but they won. I got to get Amy Murray on at some point because what's happening now with all that one point six billion? How's that looking? I don't know where is it? Not around here? I think it's supposed to close in January. But I'm going to go to a holder. Jazz Charlotte. There there's the guy right, Chazz and Sheriff Joe. When you had strike run the Tri States striker against Simon Leeese, tough matchup, Fiji against McGuffey. Throw in Richard K. But Richard K.

Would work with believe it or not, Charmaine McGuffey because they're friends. Yeah, so we don't want to get that out because associations with the sheriff of Butler County doesn't work well quite often. Right, so, but he's texted me to indicate he stands with McGuffey. I said, she don't need that. Well, then where's Chas come in on all this? Chazz will be

like the titular head of the new government. Walmart can track a pair of socks, and you guys can't track a train car that's got a dangerous chemical in it for half a year. Or maybe Chans will keep the sunlight pool and he'll just use it for himself. Chazz would enjoy the pool or just have Chaz's pool parties splashing around all right, segment Give me out of the Stuge Report coming up next. As a person with some criticisms of Barack us

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Line's traveling with Obama, he had fifty seven states. I guess they've taken three away. Well, they take a couple of provinces in Canada or something. What if Justice Clarence Tomrigo or the Virgin Islands receive the same media type coverage that Obama received. Oh be a mess. I don't know what to tell you. You don't do you? No, let's continue. We got to go. I'm taking the sheriff against the chief on news Radio seven hundred

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My god, was that embarrassing. But nonetheless, whenever Obama shows up anywhere, most of the American people go crazy like the Beatles are about to reunite. And then you also have the circumstances of Michelle Obama, who some perceive in August will be the nominee of the Democrat Party in Chicago. By that point, who knows the mental acuity of one Joe Biden. But a book is out, Racism, Revenge and Ruin. It's all about Obama.

Plus it's received a little bit of attention. That is, the Obamas, who have made tens of millions of dollars from Netflix, have a new documentary out in which says things are said by the actors they're in greatly about white racism and how that holds black folks back joining you and on now? Is that same Scott McKee, I'm sorry, Scott McKay. Scott McKay the author of Racism, Revenge and Ruin It's all about Obama. McKay, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, let's go may we go

back in time just a little bit. Of course, when I watched the twenty eight campaign unfold, normally, if there was a candidate largely unknown nationally, that had attended a church for twenty five years of black racism, the chickens coming home to roost, that Jeremiah writes, etc. That that would have destroyed the candidacy of a person who for a quarter of a century attended a racist place because it was a black liberal, not a black conservative.

Because look how the media treats Clarence Thomas, a black liberal gets special treatment. From that point to the so called Beer Summit with about Professor Gates, to Trayvon Martin to Michael Brown, there's been a hands off, kids clove approach to Obama and everything he does. So before we talk about the Netflix film put out by the Obama describe the media coverage of Obama starting at seven and eight and how it fed into the idea that he's the next president.

Well, I think you absolutely nailed it. There's a couple of things, you know. The first part of it is Barack Obama was never vetted the way a presidential candidate in the United States of America is expected to be vetted. And something that prevented that vetting has sort of metastasized into a problem throughout

American culture, which is cancel culture. If you attempted to tell the truth about who Barack Obama was and what his background was and what his agenda would necessarily be as a result of that background, whether it's talking about Jeremiah Wright, whether it's talking about Bill Ayers, who ended up being the most influential thinker when it came to American education, and he's the reason that K twelve education in America is nothing but woke in doctrination these days. Like that was

never vetted. The big thing that was never vetted was Obama's relationship, whether it's as a biological son or at the very minimum an intellectual and ideological son of Frank Marshall Davis. That absolutely wasn't vetted. So much so that in Dreams from My Father, which is sort of the origin mythology of Barack Obama disguised as an autobiography, that almost certainly was ghost written by Bill Ayers,

Frank Marshall Davis's reference twenty two times. Now he's not referenced as Frank Marshall Davis, He's just called Frank. But that was, you know, when the book came out back in the what late nineties. A few years later, when they did the audiobook version of it, they scrubbed all twenty two

of those references out. And there was no Frank, and so you know it's bad, you know, like and interestingly enough, you know, there's this big controversy about was he born in Kenya and what about the birth certificate and all that kind of stuff, and you know that's almost like a limited, modified hangout because you know, the real truth of the matter is when Obama moved back to Hawaii when he was ten, his grandfather brought him around

to see Frank Marshall Davis periodically the rest of the time he lived in Hawaii,

Okay, and the guy was a mentor for him. Now, there's zero reason why you'd bring Barack Obama to go see Frank Marshall Davis unless there was some other connection there other than you know, Frank Marshall Davis was the only black guy that old Man, or Barack Obama's grandfather knew, and so you know, there's some reason to believe that there may be a genetic connection there, regardless of that Communist Party USA stooge who had been a newspaper editor

in Chicago for a communist paper and a columnist for communist paper in Honolulu. Now, now every Obama did as president well, jumping ahead to twenty twenty three, almost twenty twenty four. Now we're at a circumstance having gone through eight years of Barack Hussein Obama, and one one thing is directly in my mind forever, and that is the night of the election at Grant Park in

Chicago, Illinois, November of twenty oh eight. I'm looking at the face of the Reverend Jesse Jackson in complete tiers and many said, we now understand the mission of Obama is to heal the nation racially. And I thought, in the back of my mind, Jesse Jackson is now thinking the gig is up. I'm not going to used race anymore to make a lot of money.

But maybe maybe I think differently. But instead of bringing the country together, whether it was the Beer Summit, Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, for the next eight years, as soon as the policies of Obama got sidetracked they didn't work, he quickly played not just the race card, the entire deck and separated America, which continues through today. Describe, if you can, Scott McKay, then the new movie put out by the Obamas now it is

Obama shall always say unbridled. What's it about? Well, I think that that's a very good setup. What I would also say is Barack Obama his entire value proposition was as a candidate, was that he was going to be this racial healer, that he would prove America was not a racist country. How could it if you elect the black guy? And all of that was

the largest bait and switch in the history of American politics. And what you really see, interestingly enough, it's like a fictional story, but it tells so much truth about how the Obamas actually see the world is this leave, you know, leave the world behind where you you know you got. The world is ending, and you've got a black family and a white family and they're you know, they can't work together because they hate each other over racial

lines, and that absolutely is not human experience. When you get in a crisis situation, people tend to come together for their own benefit, and in this case, they stay apart. And what's happened is on a human level, almost everyone I have ever spoken to, and I've done this a long time, have great personal relationships with those of a different race. Mono and Mono, Hey, no problem, we get along. But the media and others want to completely separate, and I think it's a canard to say it's

about race. If it was about race, then Justice Claren Thomas and Senator Tim Scott would be the two favorites in the national media for positive coverage. But Laren's Thomas gets zero zero positive coverage. He's he's as black as can be. I've anim on my show a few times, great man, great Justice, but he's always attacked viciously, not because of in spite of his race, because of philosophy. So Scott McKay, am I correct in stating it's not about race. If it was about race, Senator Tim Scott would

be the leading nominee for the Republican nomination. What it's about is ideology using race as a vehicle to get there. Your comments, well, and this goes I mean, it goes back a bunch of different ways. But what comes to mind to me is, again, Frank Marshall Davis's columns in those newspapers constantly picked at the scab of race. Uh. And you know, made the argument that Stalinist Russia had solved racism and that it was tearing America

apart, when when the exact opposite was true. And then you know, I kind of fast forward a little bit to just before Obama got in the presidential race in you know, two thousand and six or something. He gives this interview and he talks about how there is no individual salvation without collective salvation, meaning that the black community can't advance unless the government pulls everybody who's black

up. And somebody like Clarence Thomas is an anomaly and doesn't count because he's you know, he's risen through his own merits, Like you can't have that because somebody has to use political power to make it work. And that gives the game away because Obama Democrats use race to promote collectivism. They don't use race to promote black people. And I think we've seen that. You're seeing

it with the what's her name Claudine Gay situation at Harvard. You certainly see it with this divisive misanthropic movie the Obama's made, see it with everything Joe Biden's administration does that can be, you know, even remotely tied to race. It's all dei and all of these these awful things that are you know, built to destroy relationships between people, whether it's in the workplace or in schools or what have you, rather than letting people advance on their own merits,

which is what America is about. And one of the things that you'll find in racism, revenge, and ruin is, you know, we keep coming back to the to the concept and the fact that Barack Obama hates America as founded and as evolved and everything that you see over the last sixteen years or whatever since he became a prominent national political figure president ex president sort of because he certainly doesn't feel like an ex president now president unless you think Joe

Biden actually runs the country in which Mace you know, here's a cookie for you. But like, you know, ever since he came on the scene, okay, it's been you know, people get tempted to believe that things that are these changes that are being made in America are organic or that this is just how society has evolved. And that's not true. Okay, all of this was contrived and it's been executed, and the primary mover of all of it since two thousand and seven has been Barack Obama. Well, and

until we recognize that and deal with it, we can't stop it. Well, Scott McKay, I'll say this that the two or three thousand former Obama officials that currently run the executive branch of government. And it's not it's not Joe Biden or Joe Biden, it's the two or three thousand main bureaucrats around. That's why we have his and her pronouns. That's why we have a military that's gone woke. That's why we have DEI principles everywhere benefiting generally white

liberal females. That's why we have requirements for evs to be by federal government employees. It's all the takeover beneath the radar of the bureaucrats that run the largest branch of government, which is the bureaucracy. And before I let you go, one other thing, I think in August in Chicago, when all hell's breaking loose and that Joe Biden once again has demonstrated mentally ill equipped,

and the media won't cover him either. I can only imagine if Trump engaged in the malapropism and the mental vacuous conditions of Joe Biden, how the media would deal with Donald Trump. But I can certainly see in Chicago that Michelle Obama is going to have a prominent role in the convention and that she will be drafted to be the nominee of the Democrat Party with maybe I don't know, pick a Senator Kine or somebody underneath her, and she's gonna She's the

only one that can tell Kamala Harris. Look, I'm a black female. I got this. You go to California, Joe Biden. Give me an LBJ statement from March of nineteen sixty eight. Do you think it is likely or are certain that the Democratic Party, if the pulling indicates that they're in trouble, are going to trot out Michelle Obama and Barack Obama in Chicago in August. Well, I would say this. I think what stands in the way of that is that Michelle doesn't want it, and it's hard to tell

Michelle what to do. But if you get over that obstacle, I have absolutely no objection to what she said, because I don't think Biden is viable. And right now they are painted in such a corner because whoever the nominee is has got to be an Obama puppet of some stripe. You know, they're stuck with Kamala if they can't go with Michelle. And I don't think Kamala is a I think she's a non starter as well. So this is going to be the thing that you're going to hear them on the left pining

for. And the question is can you get her to do it? Because if you can, then you know, it's all aboard the Obama reducks train for it's over. Because the suburban, especially suburbanites and females, their eyes glaze over. They simply look at Michelle Obama. Whenever Barack Hussein Obama is is introduced anywhere, that the knees bend and the and the heads bow, and this is the guy we want right there. I watched it on the

Morning Show today, Biden with Obama. That was embarrassing, and I'm thinking, Okay, if that happens, she ma's what you forget about Trump and whatever it's it's gonna be Michelle Obama and she's gonna take over. Let somebody else run the presidency. Hell, someone else does right now. Anyway,

It's not as if Biden's in charge of anything. All the Obamaites are in charge of the executive branch of government, giving us all this crap and there's nothing we can do about it. Scott McKay once again, racism, revenge and ruin. I want the media to treat Clarence Thomas the way they treat

Barack Hussain Obama. Is that possible, I'll sew for the media treating Obama the way they treat Clarence Thomas. Yeah, let's have that, because then you get some real vetting and people realize, oh my god, you actually have with this guy who's dominated the country for the last sixteen years. Oh my god, Scott McKay, you're a great American. Thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Scott, Thank you, sir.

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He did a warm up for the for the later appearance by McCain and referred to Obama with his full name of Rock Hussein Obama. McCain went into a tizzy and denounced Cunningham, and he denounced all kinds of other people who were supporting McCain and trying to rally supporters for McCain. Anytime they said anything about Obama that McCain didn't like, something as innocuous as mentioning his middle name, McCain denounced them, distanced themselves. You wonder why the Republican Party lost

in North Carolina. Remember the great ads the North Carolina Republican Party ran and McCain denounced them, demanded they pull the ads down. Hello, quiet and I'm Scot I'm broadcasting. So I got a call from Joe Eaters and Rob Portman. Wow, there's a duo two thousand and eight, taken over the tri State. They want to seize control of the Kenwoock Town Center, make a part of the city. That's a Joe. So they say, we got McCain coming to town, and you know the bomb is going to be

at UC later in the day. He's going to have fifteen twenty thousand people going out that Bobcats. The devo tays, how about that Bobcats? Anyway, and so they said, can you fire up the crowd? Get there about ten thirty yr one eleven. I said, look, Rob, I got to get out of there by quarter till twelve because I'm literally on the air at twelve oh five. My god, drive up the HOUCHI min trail. Correct, it'll be overwhelm but I said great. So I take the

stage at ten minutes after eleven am. I'm about Memorial Hall and over the Rhine, next door to the Musical Right, and there's few, if any people there. So Joe I think it was clerk at Courts at the time, and called the Prosecutor's office. We need bodies here. We have all the media has arrived and no one's here welcoming McCain, and they've lined up for the last few hours to hear the devotay of Barack Hussein Obama. You

see right, So they call walk over delay eleven twenty. I start talking and Rob says, look look off to the right, and when McCain arrives, I'll give you the cut, slice the throat movement. In other words, wrap it up. Yeah, And so he said, talk for ten minutes. He's five minutes away. I said, okay, I'll look off to my right. After ten minutes of great orifying. By the way,

it was wonderful, Okay. I look over at Rob. He's doing this like stretch it out baby taffy between us, like Jesse Jackson, and secondly and thirdly Tony Resco and fourthly Frank Marshall Davis, and I go on and on. I look over and he's still stretching town going oh boy. And at this point there's almost people there. I'm running out of fuel. I used the name Barack Hussein Obama. Which what name did he take at the inaugural? That's the one bingo, right, So I had to scidadle out

of there. Eleven thirty five and I get in my car and drive up the ho Chi Min trail to get to Kenwood. Right, okay, good, right, things are good. I'm thinking okay. When I left, Rob Portman said that was wonderful. There was an advanced guy from John McCain that said, that's the best intro we've heard. Thank you very much. I said, hope, you're welcome. So I'm start getting calls from area code two one two and two O two, which is Washington d C in

New York. And I'm on the air and look at this to it too, what the NBC news. I'm going and Tom Broke all he wants me. Peter Jennings wants to talk to me. ABC Wow, I said, well, Wald, I'm not sure he was in so I'm going. So about one oh five I returned the call, seemingly your friend. John McCain went after me hard for improper introducing him by using his opponent's real name. Well, who is he running against, Barack? Who's Saint obamacats there's the

Bombcats? Tell him it's the bearcats where they're not in Athens there, Barack. Can you imagine if Clarence Thomas received the same media coverage of Obama, Oh, he would be the most popular Supreme Court justice of all time, or what if Obama was covered the way Clarence Thomas has been covered. So it's not about race, It's about audiology. And race is the vehicle to impose the ideology and has shut people like you up. And you will not be shut up. No one. No one puts you in a corner and

tells you to shut up. Yeah nobody is that true? Yeah it is okay, Go ahead, will Hey the stude Reporter's Approach service, every local Temestar Heating air conditioning dealers Tamestar quality you could feel in Cincinnati, col Schmid Heating and Koli five one three one sixty nine hundred spot and Michelle Obama is much more likely to be the next president than Joe Biden. Will he best Bengals Bengals Update those Bengals and Vikings tomorrow pay Course Stadium the site best Bengals

coverage seven out at WLW nine am tomorrow. Holy Grail RNL Carriers pregame Sports Talk presented by your Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky Toyota Dealers. The tailgate Crashers pregame party is at Longworth Haul from nine am to noon, and we welcome into town Willie Vikings linebacker Ivan Pace, Ivan Pace Junior. His birthday is tomorrow, the pride of Cole Rain and UCLA wall. You telling that twit to

quiet down a little bit. The wide wide receiver Justin Jefferson, who suffered a a chest injury last Sunday against the Raders, is questionable now for tomorrow. That's the lait. What Burrow's running mate from LSU? Correct, Well, I don't know what to tell you. What about LSU. They can't

get players to stay healthy well. And then last night, of course, the Raiders, who four days ago lost that game to the Vikes three to nil, absolutely embarrassed the Los Angeles Chargers last night, sixty three to twenty one. There you score zero in one game in sixty three in the other. The Chargers fired the head coach Brandon Staley and GM Tom Telesco this morning. Gone after that, after that loss. Gone. Now I have a vision, and I know you laugh and snicker at me, that the Bengals

are gonna beat the Vikings, right, gonna beat Pitts. Sounds good. It's gonna beat k C and their barbecue. They're gonna run the table. You're saying, go and that and you'll rolled into the postseason downtown. Jake brown Ing is gonna take the Bengals to the playoffs, to the super Bowl, and we're gonna have a quarterback controversy come next summer camp, assuming Joe Burrow can actually play. I don't think the Bengals will mind that if they

win the super Bowl. Win the super Bowl, it doesn't make any difference who's the starting quarterback next summer. Who cares. They're the champs. That's all and all that. That's all that, Matt, do you put him first? And do you put Joe? That's all up to UH, Duke Tobin, Mark Duffner, and uh and Zach Taylor. I have a rule. Bill Belichick had the same rule in twenty oh one. When you take the team to the super Bowl, he's hating life. Now we win and

you're the MVP. Right, you're the starting quarterback? Correct? So Jake brown you're calling Jake Browning to be the NFL MVP. Yes, something wrong with you. College football, The bowl game season kicks off tomorrow Miami RedHawks in Orlando and the Cure Bowl against app State at three point thirty. And also, good luck to Owe you Bobcats the home of Tom Brenneman and also ken Brew uh and also who else is in there? Because somebody told us they went to Was it Frank Marzulo? I like, I like Frank.

Somebody let us have it on the X that we forgot them. I like, I like Frank, Bob Katz and and Georgia Southern and the Myrtle Beach Bowl. The Myrtle Beach Bowl. Yeah, I think the UH. I think the winning team gets a vacation there. Never heard of it. No, they used to do that with the winner of the in the Kentucky Speedway Xfinity Race brought to you by Myrtle Beach. The winning team got a h got a free UH vacation Myrtle Beach. Yeah. I've been there a few

times. Very nice community. Let's see UH college basketball tomorrow. They're going to renew the rivalry elease for one year. Bearcats and Flyers and Heritage Bank Center at six thirty on seven out of WLW. I got a text here from Tom Weavement about the city of Cincinnati and xing Kenwood Town Center. Wow,

is that possible? They're not messing around? Are they? Winthrop and Xavier at seven on fifty five KRC Kentucky and North Carolina tomorrow night at Ohio State and Mick Cronin in Ucla and then in Indianapolis Number one Arizona v. Number three per Due. I'm gonna call him Mick Cronin with your permission. After I get off the air. I don't call coaches anymore on the air.

You know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying. Baseball Red's single game tickets for the red Spring training home games are on sale now at the reds dot Com Slash Spring. They'll open things up there to win the Cactus League. February twenty fourth against those Guardians. Max Schurzer looks like he had back surgery. He's out until at least JUNI or July of twenty twenty four, and he gets paid forty five million dollars. Then go Tyler Glass,

now traded to the Dodgers. He just gets a new five year, one hundred and thirty five MILLI deal, and Michael Waka, who was also targeted by the Reds, goes to the Kansas City Royals in a two year, thirty two million dollar deal. And if the red stay healthy, they don't need starting pitching, but they don't stay healthy, so they need starting pitching. And also, happy birthday today to Jonathan India, He's a good

man. Jonathan in is also second, we think. Also last night the Sticky Bandits won the C Plus Dart League in the Steel Tip Steek Stick League and darts at a local establishment around the town. So apparently the city of Cincinnati is going to have a big parade and celebration soon for the Sticky Bandits winning the the C plus Dart League. What are you talking about, well, darts somebody, Cincinnati's going to have a parade for the dark champions.

Yeah, and the Steel Tip Stick League. Try to get that on a hat. Where do you get this information? Can't say from Rocky boyman. No talk about the girls, the women's volleyball. I think the Sticky Bandits beat Notre Dame in this the Sticky Bandit, it's a club sported Notre Dame. Notre Dame darts problems. Plus, of course Coney Island shutting down eighteen eighty six, just the Sunlight Pool opened in nineteen twenty five. Well,

Cincinnati sees power and take over Coney Island. What about the Lost River who has memories of that, the log Flume, what about the Tunnel of Love, the Turnpike, the sky Ride. I kind of vaguely recall the flying scooters that's at the Flying Saucers. What about the tumble Bug and the Tunnel of Love, the famous Shooting Star. I was there along with the Wildcat, yep, and the Shooting Star was the was the one before all the beast and everything else at King's Island, right, Shooting Star was it?

But now city council is angry about shutting down the pool and they want to seize power, take over. It's not in the city. That don't make any difference. They want to expand the city. They want to strike a deal with Frank Zeibel to do ACR gunnight spas and pools inside the present swimming pool. You mean sunlight. I don't get it. It's three million gallons of water. That's a little. But they also want to see as many

gallons of waters from Pittsburgh to kro Illinois. They want to seize Kenwood Country Club too. Who does the city and they probably all want to play golf there for nothing nothing. They play for nothing in Newman in California than Avon and they want to challenging course. Finally, like we'll come up to Kenwood, but they seize power there. It's going to be ugly. And then

somebody said that they want to take over the Kenwood Town Center. Tom Weiedman has a guard up in front of the town Center because Chief Thiji may show up with an armed force to seize power and charmade. Mcguffey's boys are gonna respond. We could have a war in Montgomery Montgomery Road. If that happens. We got action. We've got some serious action. Tanks, tanks, troops, helicopter borders, drones from the river. So I have I assume

we got a artillery boat, artillery shooting from the river. So fireworks gonna gonna John Barretts gonna shell Kenwood Town Center. And wouldn't that be something? Yeah, that would be something, some serious action. Boy. So I don't know what to tell you. I don't either, but we'll see what happens. Tomorrow is a big one. If they lose tomorrow, shall we say a little difficult. It's kind of like that song by Roy Orbison.

It's over maybe. Well, you got Pittsburgh there, and you got Kansas City there, and then you got here, that Brown's Hereland and Cleveland. That's true, Joe Flacco, but there's still Cleveland. We'll see what happens. Say give me out of the students report. I have great concerns everywhere that there may be a war happening inside Hamilety County between the city and the

county. And I want to know where Elisa Reese and Denise Treehouse will be if city council declares war on Coney Island, where would the county be? Their loyalties might be divided, Willie and Utter of Coney Island. Long may it live. We leave you with the immortal words of the Stude Report. And your weekend looks fabulous. Thank you, Frank. I think that was Frank. Is he a know you man? Do you know? I don't

think so. I think he got mad the last time because we were mentioned all these weather people and we didn't mention him, so he got the rump. I like Frank me too. You may not care for it was a good job, but I do. I like Jennifer Ketchmark maybe more than anyone. She's a hockey player. I like, I mean a hockey coach. How many women playing coach? Talking, not many, not talking you guys. Yeah, she's got she's tough, she's mean, she's mean, she's

got a system. She's ugly, not physically, but you know when she coaches correct, she's tough. Right, Well, let's continue seg I'll see you. Everything go smoothly on Monday, all right, Well, everybody have a good weekend. Gold Bengals who day, Merry Christmas and happy New Year, and watch out for somebody special coming down to the Longworth haul tomorrow night tomorrow afternoon. You may not fit down the chimney this year, can't say

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