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11-9-23 Bill Cunningham Show

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Willie asks what happened surrounding Issue 1 with Brian Tome and Governor Mike DeWine. Also Mike Dardis from Channel 5 tells us about his feature on law enforcement in Cincinnati and Hamilton County Prosecutor Melissa Powers.

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Best time of the year, and joining you and I now is Brian Tom. And I want to set the record state. May I set the records straight, Brian Tome, with your permission, William, you can always set the records straight. Yes, ah, good yours truly made comments yesterday that I misspoke every now and then every few years I have to correct the record on something, and I made a reference that Brian Tome supported State Issue one,

which is of course the abortion thing. And in context, what I meant to say it didn't come out the right way, was that the archbishop and other religious leaders like Brian Tom tried to lead the flock to vote no on State Issue one and without great success. And the larger point was that if observant Christians, Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Seeks and others actually voted

in large numbers, the result would have been different. And I made the comment that there was polling to indicate that about forty percent of Catholics was going to vote yes on abortion. About forty percent and probably thirty five percent or so of other Christians would do the same thing. To set the record straight, So let you, out of your own mouth, say whether or not you voted yes or no, and state Issue one diametrically opposed to Issue one

was was dinametricly posed and diametricy posed. My person who's been adopted and my mother chose life for me, very very thankful for that. So no, you and I are aligned on that. And to actually give you credit and to actually criticize me for a moment, I personally was not very voiciferous with Crossroads in terms of, you know, weighing in personally on this issue, I think that's a fair statement about me. I was pretty silent on the

issue. And there were reasons I was pretty silent on the issue, and we can get themother if you want. Yeah, But the only thing, the only thing I was like critical of No, I never supported Issue one, would never support support anything that takes a child's life. It's in a mother's wound. Well, the archbishop put out a recorded statement and every mass I went to for the last two months had a reference to please please support

the lives of unborn, healthy babies wanting to live. And the archbishop had a statement, a ten minute recorded statement that he played, and some of the priests caught some flak for that because they were some say it was politicizing. Did you, as the leader of Crossroads specifically, not get into the issue because you did not want to alienate a chunk of Crossroads who felt differently than you. Well, I think there's a couple of reasons why I chose

not to. Let me defend the bishop for a moment and just empathize with him and really anybody America. We're a country that does not want to be led. Everyone wants to do whatever they want to do. No one really wants to be pushed on anything. We all just want affirmation for where we are. And so what you're seeing in any church anybody people people really don't listen to their leaders unless it's what they want to do anyway, So that's

kind of the thing that's happening there. I didn't really get into it because I've not seen abortion legislation move the needle on people's hearts. I've just not I've not seen it, and I believed, and I could be wrong on this, and I'm happy to be wrong on this. I've believed that really speaking to this is not going to change the heart issue and was not going to ultimately even change the number of abortions that took place. They make an

abortion more difficult to have, but wasn't going to change that. And the way people are right now, they're no, they're not open to like ideas. Everything has split down the middle is just a Republican thing or Democrat thing. They don't even hear the So they're the huge part of our church that would have only heard like, oh so, Brian Tolm's just a straight line

Republican now. And I just chose to say, if you're going to misunderstand me, I'm going to have you misunderstand me for what I say about Jesus, not what I say about a voting issue. Well, the way are wrong. Can you be an observant Christian attending all the services acrossroads, giving sufficient funds, donating your time and talents, and still support abortion on demand? Can you do both? I think you can do both, but I would still think that you were wrong to support abortion on demand. Yeah,

I think you can do both. And I think they're people who in their heart they're not seeing a problem with that. So yeah, I think it can happen, but I just don't. I don't think it should happen. Are they wrong? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yes, they're wrong all right. Now on the issue of state issue too, which was marijuana, the politicians are beating around the bushes again trying to change that. The American people voted in wide margins to allow marijuana to be served much like liquor.

Treat it like liquor, with control commission, all that kind of stuff. How did Brian Tone vote on state issue too about legalizing marijuana. I am not up for legalize marijuana. I uh, yeah, no, no, I'm not going to demonize somebody who choose on the gummy bears. I choose on a gummy bear. But it's war. When I've been in when I've been in another in another state, me, I do, yeah, I

do. Yeah. Well, you know when I talked to somebody about this recently and I said, and I said, you know what, everything I vote for, it loses. Like I vote, I don't like issue one that passes. I don't like recreational marijuana that way passes. And I think giving money to zews and the library is a good thing that didn't pass. Like what do we have again, zews and libraries? I don't understand. But I when someone pushed on me about the gumming bears. I said,

okay, fair enough. I'm not bummed out of about anybody having gummy bears. No, I could care less about that. But what I see in my place is I just see a lot of people bill who are not equipped with the temptations of smoking marijuana. It's not a net positive in many, many people's life, just like gambling and having casinos is not a net positive in many, many people's life. And so that's why I say, no, it's all a good idea. Well, right now, we have casinos,

we have gambling, we have marijuana soon to be everywhere. We also have, of course, abortion on demand in the state of Ohio, and shrine in the constitution. It's almost like a scene from Bedford Falls with Jimmy Stewart, you know, when you stumble down at the on Christmas Eve and all hell was breaking loose. What's next, prostitution. I can't imagine prostitution being legalized and having red light districts in Cincinnati, But I could not imagine

that abortion would pass by wide margins. I could not have imagined casino gambling and sports betting is happening everywhere. I see college kids on their phones betting five and ten and twenty dollars on parlays that have no chance of paying off. And now we're going to treat marijuana much like alcohol, which will be everywhere. Prostitution is next. Do you draw the line of prostitution or not. Prostitution will absolutely be legalized, Bill, no question about it. It's

just a matter of it's just a matter of time. They're going to be in two years, it gonna be ten years. Is to remember this is not a political crisis. This is a spiritual crisis. This is not a crisis of people not voting the right way. This shows the crisis of the condition of people's hearts. And that's the work. We've got to be engaged with what's going on in people's lives. Because every social indicator I see, Bill, they're all negative. Suicide is up, mental illness is up.

Men For us, men, you and I, for the first time in history, our life expectancy has gone down. We're not well. Loneliness and everything has us by the throat. And that makes me have great empathy for the average American citizen, and I want to help them, regardless of how they're voting. We're damaged on the issue of Israel, and I saw the YouTube video that I've monitored that and watched it a couple times before I went there. In May, I saw you in the church, the Holy Sepulcher.

I saw all that are you shocked? On college campuses last night there was a showing of the video put together by IDF of the barbarians behavior, the outrages that happened on October the seventh. I've been offered, I talked to Hannity. I've been offered to sit there and watch it. And I guess at some point I'm going to consent to see babies being beheaded and women being raped, and men being burned alive. At some point, maybe I

ten. Schindler's list was something I walked out on about three quarters into it. I couldn't take it anymore. I kind of know what I'm going to see. But last night there was almost a ride in Los Angeles as some Jewish individuals played the actual video of what happened on October the seventh, and out in front were Palestinians. On u SE college campuses Ohio State, especially in the large urban areas, there's a large presence of Hamas supporters who are

marching around and being Jewish as difficult. You will be killed. You'll be found that. There were women Jews on a University of Pennsylvania campus that had bullhorns in their face whenever they left their dorm room. If you wear a Yamica, you're likely to get crowned in the head by a baseball bat. Are you shocked to what's happening Not with Hamas, they're killers, they're murderers, Not with Hesbela. Are you shocked to what's happening inside of America in

the Hamas chapters on college campuses. I'm deeply disappointed. I am not shocked at all. There has been a very steady, persistent rollback of the average American being for Israel. And part of it is because the Israel government hasn't acted justly in many situations, and a lot of it, a lot of it. It's just as Americans were rebellious, and so our parents believe that. I don't believe that. And we're always rooting for the underdog. So

it looks like the Palestinians are the underdogs. Want to root for them. The Palestinians are not the underdog. Here I tell people, I've been overder Israel fifteen times, okay, fifteen times. I've never met a Muslim in Israel. I didn't like good folks and they for the most part, they get along really really well. But understand, every single country that borders Israel, every single one has gone on the record in the last several years,

in the last couple decades that they want to wipe out Israel. Everyone has done that. None of them have ever retracted that. How do you think that would make us feel? As America of Canada and Mexico went on the record and said America needs to go down and we need to wipe it out

from river to ocean. Right, I'll tell you what they Israel has been getting oppressed and they've been reacting, sometimes over over reacting, but it's kind of from a place of understandable fear and paranoia because people have been out to get them. And then we see, now we've seen. I have a

friend who's in the Special Forces for Israel. Israel, he's one of the guides that we use, and he was the first responder, one of the first responders to clean up bodies that were killed by the Hamas raid and to see he said to see children beheaded and bullets through parents' heads. We're on the wall is a picture of a smiling, happy family, and they intentionally did it right there in their home beneath that picture. That's an awful,

awful job. That's what Hamas is. That's what they've been doing for a long long time. And so how we and our twisted understanding of being enlightened and righteous can possibly ordain that and possibly say, well, it's both sides. What about the times Israel yadi? Yet Israel has not gone over a border and beheaded and shot people. They've not. Israel has had some overreaches and trying to protect themselves, but they have never ever done acts of aggression

and terrorism. That Jess was trying to send a message that it doesn't happen. It doesn't. And I saw, And I like to interview people whenever I go somewhere. I like to go in the common schleps that I think I represent well and talk to them about their daily lives. And when I was in Bethlehem and on the West Bank talking to the shopkeepers and people on the street, et cetera, that there was not love for the Jew, But I tell you what they were living in peace and they were working.

Twenty thousand a day came across the border fences and what happened there is unspeakable. Another point I find disconcerting is that the religious leaders of Iran and around the Middle East are preaching the murder, the death, the destruction of Israel from the river to the sea. Palestine will be free, which means that as religious leaders, they're calling for the murder of the infidel and the killing

of Jews. And about the most violent time of the week is after prayers on Friday, when generally the men come out of come out of the mosques, that's when it's violent. As a religious leader yourself, I know you don't accept the designation as the cardinal or the archbishop of Crossroads. Nonetheless, can you imagine a circumstance where as a religious leader you would call for the rape, the murder and the beheading of some other races children because of the

hatred coming out of the pulpit right there in many Muslims. What is your thoughts on that? Yeah, No, that first of all, the number of moms that call for that is in the vast, vast minority. Uh, that that's not a normal thing for for the Muslim faith, nor for nor for m moms. But yes, there is a very very small percentage of it. And uh and Christendom. You we've got our faults in Christianity. You and I know, William, We've got our share of hypocrites.

You and I have our share of hypocrisy. Nobody's perfect. When you and I have believed things and done things we both regret. But this is a form of action and violence you don't see in the faith of Christianity. You just don't. Yeah, it's because it's our faith is founded on love your neighbor as yourself, even if you disagree with them, and even if they're an idiot, you know, love your neighbors yourself. So I think this

is one of the ways that are that our our faith shines. And I also think back to your thing of Palestine, Uh, Bill is Yeah, I've been you and I have been in Bethlehem, which is under Palestinian rule, which means there's a wall around it, but it's still israel territory.

And Israel has put that wall around it because there is a small percent, a small percent of people who are in that region who have hostile and violent desires against the nation visual so many or most levelhead of Palestinians who live within Bethlehem understand this and they're like, yeah, this sucks, this is awful, And I kind of get it. I kind of get it because Israel knows there's an element here that if they get out, it's going to be

very, very difficult to us. So this is not an easy situation, it's all but one thing is very easy. Fact to your thing built. Yes, absolutely. Why in the world is there a faction of America that is defending in any way, shape or form Hummas, that's trying to somehow say that this speaks to some moral issue in Israel. No, no, no, they came over. They kill people in cold blood, hard stop, period, hard stop. Why is this hard to understand? Well,

I think it's a failure of public and private education. I think it's a failure of the educational system, of failure of our culture, which is debased. It's a failure of things in America that the laws cannot affect, which is the hearts of men and women. I just think it's it's an outrage to see it. It didn't create it, but it exposed a feeling toward the jew which I thought was always out there, but I didn't think I

would see it inside the United States of America. All right, well we got to run, Brian, Tom you set the record straight, and it's always good to get a report from you as the archbishop of Crossroads. And I thought it was a pope Crossroad. Well, i'm gonna demote you. I'm gonna make you an archbishop. All right, sounds good, my friend. All right, Brian, thank you very much. Let's continue with more to set the record straight. He said no on one, and he said

I didn't didn't want that to happen. On two, he said no, and he was right in a sense because yes happened, and yes happened. But he was right and wrong. I think on the zoo and on the library, those both passed. And whenever the Thane Maynard says I'm gonna let the animals go if you don't vote yes. That encouraged me to vote yes. I don't want some line or tiger to prowl around Clifton. Let's continue with more news is next coming up later will be Mike Dartis and scheduled Governor

Mike DeWine. All on News Radio seven hundred WULW, Rookie Boyman and Lynce mconister have all of a whoday you can handle during the Roundtable tonight at six on seven hundred WLW, the home of the best Mingles coverage. Nothing says welcome home like insanely clean carpets from Zero's Carpet and Ernak Clinton limited time three rooms of carpet clean man like them a lot makes a whole bunch of sense.

But once again, the so called Christian community, the Protestants, the Catholics, and all the rest observing Jews the Muslims feel strongly about this. But nonetheless, abortion now is such a dividing issue that when I try to talk to these power brokers ahead of time, tell them what I'm going to ask him, I'm going to I told Mike Dowaine, I'm going to ask you about whether votes matter. That is, when we well aired up and down, left and right issues one and two well aired, and the people

clearly without equivocation. It wasn't fifty one forty nine let's wait till the absentee ballots come in. It was overwhelming in the great state of Ohio that represents America. More than any other state. That when the state of Ohio went through what we went through for the past several months, and the state issue won, which is, let's face this, abortion on demand through birth,

that that's what it is. Because the planned parenthood doctor can find health problems with any woman financial, emotional, physical, or otherwise justify a late term abortion. And when that was well aired in every possible manner and means, and it was clear that most Ohioans disagreed with me and many others that to me, it's over. I know the activists don't like to hear that, because they make money, they have buildings, they have mortgages to pay off.

They want to keep the issue alive. But in reality, there's another way of fighting abortion other than through government action, such as giving money to pregnancy centers east and West to help women that are in trouble to either find adoptive services or to provide diapers, or whatever it might be. To show a woman a sonogram and say, hey, this is your baby. Should

we kill your baby? I don't think. I don't understand it. Many times in my life I don't understand how somebody can think differently than me. But the older I get maybe the wiser I become on that issue. It's time to go back into the hearts and homes of individual women that need help and one way or another, and to provide that assistance to them, to

encourage them not to kill their unborn, healthy baby. That's the goal, and sadly, a good chunk of the American people living in Ohio, in Kansas, in Kentucky and Michigan, in every state it's tried, feels completely differently than me. To me, it's a human life from the moment of conception through natural death. That's it. It's a life. It's a human life. It's not a callous it's not a tumor, not a cyst, not a combination of cells. That is a human being. And the far

left, the Democrats see no value in that at all. It's not a human being. It's simply a symbiotic organism latched onto a woman's body that she voluntarily put there, and now it doesn't want to pursue it and go through it. Okay, Well, at some point, when you' knocked in the head a few times, you say, you know what, I'm not going to change my position one iota, but to have the government the law reflect my beliefs is now forked. It's over for the next few years until something

else changes. Something might change. If this same vote was held ten years ago, the result would have been different, I think. But right now it's clear a great majority of Ohioans one abortion on demand through birth, and I think that's offensive to use a light term. To me, it's disgusting, But you don't agree, and so we move on and help the women in those difficulties. So I'm going to pin Mike the Wine to the wall and after two o'clock to say, you know what, I'm not going to

encourage it whatever it is. Same thing with marijuana. You heard me say repeatedly. I voted yes on issue too, and to me, government then has to pay attention to what we do. I voted no on one, I voted yes on two, so I was I guess half right. So it's time to have government implement the will of the people of Ohio. Does that make sense to you? Government should implement the will of the people of

the state of Ohio. So when I get with Mike the Wine after two o'clock, I'm going to press them on it, yes, and to overturn the constitutional amendment, which has never happened, is a big deal. Got to go, go, go, get about eight hundred thousand signatures, of which a little over half are valid, and then to spend fifty to one hundred million dollars and let's go through it again. Let's go through all this again. Are you kidding me? No, done it. It's over with.

And when it comes to issue, to implement the will of the people, good or bad, right or wrong, see how it works out. But to hear any politicians say, you know what, we're We're not going to implement the will of the people. A politician told me last night in a telephone call that I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the State of Ohio and of the United States. Well, the Constitution now

has a provision that provides abortion for any reason up through birth. Now it is Mike DeWine's job and every person who took their oath to implement the will of the people of the State of Ohio that I found I find disgusting and reprehensible. But if I was the governor, I would implement the will of the people of Ohio, even if I disagreed with it or resign. That's the other option. If if Mike Dowaine can say I can't do this,

I can't implement it. In that case, resign. Let someone else get that position and implement the will of the people of Ohio on marijuana, whatever it might be. Because it was overwhelming, something came to mind about how divided we are. By the way, after one o'clock today, we have Mike Dartiss of the Power of five. He's got stories tonight on Melissa Powers, the new relatively new prosecutor, and he's gonna tell us at a little bit about the story. It's going to air at six tonight and eleven on

Channel five or five stands for news. Mike Dartis is coming up in about fifteen minutes. And I found the quote of one Abraham Lincoln, which he expressed in eighteen sixty four, a few minutes before he was murdered by Confederate sympathizer. This is what he said, quote, if we are losing it is because we are losing our soul, our sense of purpose as a society. He went on to say, as Abraham Lincoln is apt to do,

America is not finished yet unless we die by suicide. Abraham said the following, no foreign nation can ever take a step on the Blue Ridge Mountains, or take a drink from the Ohio River, or visit the Shenandoah Valley, and a contest of a thousand years, unless we let them do it, a free nation will live forever, while it would die by suicide. Quote unquote, do you have a sense that we're dying by suicide? That is, no foreign nation will send soldiers to step foot on the Blue Ridge Mountains

or take a drink from the Ohio River. That will not happen. But if we become so angry at each other and so divided and so a city can our relations, that America will commit suicide. And the last few elections, it began with Senator Ted Kennedy borking Judge Borki nomine by Ronald Reagan, has gotten worse ever since then, when the Trumpster going back in time, when Bush forty three was elected, he was selected, not elected. The

Democrats never accepted Bush as the president. And then in twenty sixteen, when the Donald wins Farren Square, there were twenty eight to thirty Democrats that refused to attend his inaugural saying his presidency is illegitimate, from Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Jimmy Carter, whatever, every Democrat said, he's not the president. We ignore him. Is that a threat to democracy? You're damn right,

it's a threat to democracy. And so now that Biden was elected from his basement, with all the ballot stuffing that took place, many Republicans said, he's not valid. You know, Joe Biden was pumped up by illegal methods to win the presidency because Trump was so effective. What's going to happen next year. There's a chunk of Republicans thirty to forty percent that want nothing to do with Donald Trump. Now there's a chunk of Democrats about sixty to

seventy percent that want nothing to do with Joe Biden. We're going to have probably a contest between Trump and Biden. But you've heard me say repeatedly and write it down, Joe Biden will not be the nominee of the Democrat Party next year. Someone else will arise. But we're so disgusted with politics and now we don't accept the outcome of elections. What we say. It's wrong when I hear any Republicans say, well, you know, the people voted

for Issue one. But we may get together another constitutional member or pass legislation around the edges that will seek to change Issue one, and then that's upheld as constitutional or unconstitutional. Here we go again, or well, marijuana. You know, my position is marijuana is wrong, and so we have to change that. To hell with that. The people have decided those issues. So for the first seeable future, whether it's two years, four years,

six years, or eight years, let it go. Don't raise money promising things as a politician you can't deliver. All right, let's continue, And about after one o'clock today we have Mike Dartis of the Power of five about what's happening in the mean streets of Cincinnati, but also more importantly his stories tonight at six and eleven on Missy Powers. And after two o'clock today we've scheduled an interview with Governor Mike DeWine. He held one about an hour or

so ago. We have little excerpts of it. I'm gonna I'm gonna pin him to the wall about accepting the will of the American people and not seek to change it. You can seek to change it, but constitutional amendments take forever and uh, as far as the hippie letters goes, we voted for it. Now enact the will of the people. Don't try to pretend as if as the grand potentate, you know more than citizens know about how to conduct their own affairs. That's the name of that tune. Remember the words

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Stevens was here with Eddie and Jason. There seems to be some desire by the Republicans to go back at the abortion issue with another constitutional amendment god or secondly, marijuana. People voted by a wider margin than even abortion, and some Republicans from Busyrus and Ada kind of want to change that, and I

think that would be a serious mistake. But nonetheless, a little birdie whisper to my ear that Channel five, Mike Dartist, the Power of five is going to do a report tonight at six and eleven on a prosecutor's office and Missy Powers. It's a big issue and Mike Dartists, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Mike, how are you? Bill? I'm great, and I really appreciate that you decided to put me on ahead of the

governor. Well we'll see what happens. And I know you're like an independent news type person, but I can't imagine the people of Ohio voting in large margins on issues that were well exposed and well aired and suddenly the politicians say, you know what, the people of Ohio on that abortion thing, let's go back in another year and cut around the edges of maybe parental consent or maybe something else, or well, let's go back to Mayorana And after all

the people were wrong to vote that in, so let's let's change that. Just as an American, how would you respond to that, well, I mean, obviously, if you look at the polls all across the nation, in every single state that it's come up for a vote, it's fallen the same way, you know, fifty fifty eight, sixty percent something like that

in most states, in some states even a bigger margin. Even the governor himself, of course, a couple of weeks ago, kind of flip flopped a little bit on his stance, saying that his new stance falls more in line with what a lot of people think in the state of Ohio. But yeah, the voters have spoken, and that's the whole idea. But yeah,

it's a tough issue, obviously to jump into. But I would think that if you have a divisive situation to begin with, and we're talking about division and politics and we want to bring people closer together, I doubt, you know, this kind of thing is going to do that. I doubt it very much. In fact, I'm certain it will not. Let's talk about the law enforcement in the city of Cincinnati. You're doing a report tonight at least twice on Melissa Powers, the county prosecutor, and she's running for

reelection. It's going to be a tough election for her because of what happened on Tuesday. When I see people like Liz Keating not getting a sniff as far as staying on council, causes me concerned the directions of things in Hamleton County. But tell us about your story tonight. What can we expect? Well, first of all, I mean, she's been in public service for thirty one years, seventeen years as a judge. Here she is in her early sixties, and a year ago she was going to retire. I mean,

she doesn't have to work again. And all of a sudden that Joe Dieters leaves for a different position. Obviously he's not justice leaders and he's on the state Supreme Court in Ohio, and they approach her and it's their dream job. So she says, you know what, I'm putting retirement off. Now, she's telling me if she does get elected, and I know you mentioned some of the challenges she does continue to get elected, she wants to

do this till she's seventy because she's passionate about this job. And she says, you know, she thinks it's the kind of job that can't fall into the wrong hands. And I think it was fun talking with her because you see her in these news conferences and she's tough on crime and she's pretty matter of fact and doesn't show a whole lot of emotion. Well, I got a chance to sit down with her, and I learned that she likes to make her grandmother's favorite sauce. She likes to cook, she likes to do

art, she likes to be with her grandkids. So it's a little bit of both. At six o'clock, we're going to talk about some tough issues but also get to know her a little bit. And then eleven o'clock we're going to talk more about the crime issue and what Melissa Powers feels is her strategy to try to curb it. Here in Greater Cincinnati. Almost every night you deal with crime in one sense or no. Not eleven year old boy that was shot down Friday, Curtis Fuller was out. There's no better street

reporter than Curtis Fuller. And you might want to throw in Brian Hamrick and John London. I think those three are about the best there are. Probably the three of them been around for about one hundred years and all the time. The intentions are great to makeshift memorials the expressions of sorrow when eleven year old boys gunned down simply you're walking on a sidewalk with four or five of

his buddies. It's happening constantly, repeatedly, and the great majority of these crimes are black on black, which means it needs to be solved like any other crime. The great majority of these events involve a black person, but the great majority of black folks want nothing to do with crime. When I speak to black judges, they tell me, man, I'm embarrassed by what I see every day coming before me, and I say, don't be embarrassed.

Ninety five percent or more of black folks want nothing to do with any of this. It's a small subset in the black community in almost every urban area committing disproportion of crime, but also disproportionately are the victims. I can't imagine being a mother or a father trying to raise kids in and around TQL Stadium when shots are being fired. I think carters with someone had a mother who said enough is enough. I can't take it. They have a routine.

I think I heard you say this last night. There's a routine when shots are fired what to do, And most neighborhoods don't have a routine where moms and dads get with their kids and say, now, look, when shots are fired, this is what you have to do. And that only happens in certain areas, and it happens because of a lack of fatherhood, lack of education, whatever it might be. But it's awful. So yesterday I think it was you. I think it was you and Shari had this

is what you do when you hear twenty shots being fired. Isn't that a said commentary on a child's life and what they have to go through as the victims of this. It is, and you're talking about one of our reporters, Rachel Hersheimer, actually not to got in touch with one of the kids who was shot in the West Dedset eleven year old eleven year old boy died.

Five others were shot for them kids. She spoke with a fifteen year old and off camera, the fifteen year old's mother said, you know, when things start to escalate outside and we hear tension and we hear we hear a fight, you know, we get the kids right inside. So it's something that they seemingly deal with almost like weekly or every other week. And

I was really struck by this young man's interview last night. He's only fifteen years old, and he was so matter of fact about it, as if you know, you're used to seeing that all the time in that neighborhood. But back to what you were talking about, I'm going to focus less on race and more on the fact that you know, these are a lot of times repeat offenders. And that's one thing that Melissa Powers talked about in the interview tonight. She said, when you get life, that means life.

It doesn't mean twenty years. When you get a sentence that ten years, you do that ten years. She doesn't believe in, you know, being soft on crime, and a lot of times, she says, the judges decide that they don't follow the letter of the law and they decide to to take things into their own hands. She says, it's you know, if you want to do that, you take it to the voters, you take

it to the legislature. You don't make that decision by yourself. But if you look at some of the numbers, these are people, a lot of these criminals, and some of them are young. So they get back out of the streets and that's why older criminals are now hiring the younger criminals because they know that they're not going to spend a lot of time behind bars. But the sad truth is a lot of these crimes are being committed over and

over and over by the same groups of people. And Melissa Powers believes if you prosecute those people and put them behind bars and you're tougher on crime, that that could alleviate some of the problem. But yeah, it is frustrating. You see the same five or six religious leaders, community leaders, and God bless them, I mean for being out there. They're there a lot

of times before the police are there. But nothing changes and nothing is changing, And I don't know what the answer is, but we definitely need to figure something out. One of your compatriots at Fox nineteen did a story about a year ago and what shot spotter, which is a wonderful service. It can also discriminate between a backfire of a vehicle and also a gunshot. It can also tell you the caliber of the shot being fired. There was something

in the range of thirty thousand shots fired in the city of Cincinnati. Thirty thousand. I'm not talking about Hamlet County. I'm talking about the city of Cincinnati. There'll be about four hundred people wounded. This year is going to be eighty to ninety killed, and every year it's about the same, and so it is more dangerous. Cincinnati has a higher homicide rate than El Salvador. Cincinnati has a higher homicide rate in shots people getting wounded than the city

of Chicago. And it's amazing that more people are not hurt, because thirty thousand shots fired is going to have a negative impact in someone's life. And I don't know to cover other than another shooting probably tonight six and eleven, there'll be other shots fired somewhere, and you've got to cover it, and you want to try to change it a little bit, but in reality, every year it doesn't change, and a lot of it has to do we

have a juvenile court. We have one juvenile court judge out of the two of them who doesn't want to bind people over, doesn't want to put them in adult court, and doesn't want to lock them up. And these aren't kids with snapshots, and these aren't kids on TikTok. These are violent criminals. And it's a very very small percentage and a very very small number that has disproportioned an impact and until you lock them up and throw away the key,

it's not going to change. And so it is said, from your perspective, you have children, you and SHUREI have kids, and to watch what they go through. Can you imagine with your own children saying, look, the shots are going to be fired. We're gonna have thirty thousand shots fired, thirty thousand shots fired in the city of Cincinnati courting a shot spotter, and this is what to do when the shots are being fired. This is what you have to do. That doesn't happen in Mason, that doesn't

happen in Independence, it doesn't happen. It's only in a few zip codes in the city of Cincinnati. And race is not a factor. Most of the black folks I know practice law, and they're in the dentistry, they're experts in whatever line of work. It is a small subset that go to CPS and don't attend class. I had on iron Out or Wright the about a month ago, and their absentee rate, chronic absentee rate is forty nine percent, forty nine percent, and she said that if you talk about black

mails, it's about seventy percent are chronically absent. So when and I asked, well, does anyone flunk? The answer is no. In other words, if you don't attend class and you don't pass any of the tests, what happens in the fifth grade, the sixth grade, you simply are socially

promoted having accomplished nothing. So by the time you get to your teenage years, there's little hope that one has in order to function in the society that we know about that we work in, and working in that society or people like Curtis Fuller and people like Judged hyrone Yates, the society that we operate in does have a place for someone who's functionally illiterate without job skills, then as a criminal record. So, Mike Dartist, I ask you, what

do we do well? It's funny you mentioned Curtis Fuller because he had a victims advocate on in the story he did last night. He talked about fourteen years of age is a key age. You know, by the age of fourteen, if you haven't righted the ship with a lot of these kids, kids who have been impacted by violence in their community, kids who are now involved in violence in their community, if you haven't righted a ship. By the age of fourteen, you might have lost that child forever into the justice

system. And unfortunately, the weapon of choice has changed over the years. As we know, back in the day, it was fist fighting out in the side a lot when you had a problem with another kid or another group of kids. Then it's into knives and knives, and then it switched into

you know, single shot guns, and now it's these automatic weapons. And you mentioned all these shots fired around our great city of Cincinnati, you know, twice in the last several months, and not just the other night when twenty two shots were fired in two seconds at a group of kids in the West End. Wasn't that long ago, a handful of months ago, where somebody drove up in the middle of the day in OTR after school let out and fired another twenty shots and people were hit and and a lot of this

is an initiation. Sometimes it's hey, you want to be with the tough group, you want to be with this group, or you want to be with this gang, then this is what you gotta do. You got to drive by and show that you have the guts to do this, and they go and they do it. So what do you do. And it's just it's alarming because as a parent when you're talking to your kids, you don't have the answers. Because the way America is right now and it's so divided,

nothing gets done. If you put one hundred people, one hundred adults in a room, just one hundred adults, and you gave them a problem to solve, I know they could get the problem solved. But then you take it to Washington and you take the same one hundred people and you give them a title as US Senator or a US Congressman, they don't get the job done because, no matter what they really feel, they answer it another

way. Because people are worried about getting reelected. They're not worried about especially in Congress where it's two year terms. You got two year terms. One year in you're already looking to get reelected and you're just taking money from certain lobbyists and you're just doing what you're supposed to do to get reelected. And it is really sad and I don't have the answer. And that's why you

know, you have somebody like Melissa Powers. That's a big job. One of the biggest jobs in this whole area is you got to decide, you know, you got to get criminals off the streets and you got to try to clean things up. And it's not an easy task, that's for sure. No, Well, tonight at six and eleven, you'll learn more about Melissa Powers and when the Democrats settle on their opponent. I had on the head of the Democratic Party yesterday, Gwenn McFarlane, and they haven't settled yet

who they're going to have. I'm sure she's going to get an opponent, and let's see what their philosophies of law enforcement are. There is like one Republican prosecutor and the top large fifty cities in America, there's one, and that's Melissa Powers. There's no other Republicans. Of course, with Liz Keating now leaving, there's no Republicans on any city councils in the eight largest cities

in this country. So it's all one direction. And so whoever's responsible, you know, as their bat, their ball and their ass and the Democrats have to come up with some solution or else. Continue to have funerals, continue to have burials. And that's what it comes down to, which is sad when little boys cannot play baseball, football, basketball in the streets because they have a procedure when shots are fired, you have to act in a

certain way, and that's not normal. I'd love that interview that Rachel had with that woman who said, by the time a boy or girl is fourteen, especially a boy, they're kind of set for the next few years in their life. And we're told also that the front lobe of a man's brain doesn't develop till they're about twenty five years old. I think that is certainly

true. Meant many guys, I know, maybe until thirty or thirty five until they develop, so they're making lifetime and adult decisions with a childish mind. But once again, Mike Dartists, love watching you and Shuri and give my best to Kay Rob and all the folks at Channel five. I will Willie, thanks so much. And you have so much power in this area, and you know that let's keep having these conversations and hold some of these

public officials accountable so that we could get some things done. Please, all right, Mike Dartists, thank you very much. All right, let's continue with more coming up. In about forty five minutes, we schedule an interview with Governor Mike Dwine about where we go forward with this stuff. But I think it's critical to know the important people in your life to make big decisions,

and one of them in Handy County Prosecutor. With all due respect, if you're one of fourteen municipal court judges, you have great power, But when you're the county prosecutor, you have power over the entire county and what direction law enforcement takes. And that's why learning more about Missy Powers tonight on Channel five is important. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WLW, this Thanksgiving Zeros is serving deals as sweet as pie of World War Three, and then

revive national pride in this country. I also want to close with one message to the Democrat Party. End this farce that Joe Biden is going to be your nominee. We know he's not even the president of the United States. He's a puppet for the managerial class. So have the guts to step up and be honest about who you're actually going to put up so we can have

an honest debate. Biden should step aside, end his candidacy now so we can see whether it's Newsom or Michelle Obama or whoever else, Just tell us the truth so we can have an honest Hello, Byett, I'm broadcasting saying the odds to Joe Biden being the next president, about the same odds of you becoming the next governor of Ohio, which could happen, I guess, but I bet against it. You know, I didn't go for state reps. So why not? Why didn't you go for the big House. There

was a whole bunch of Middletown you want marijuana minute? Then they wanted you to run, know they? Why didn't you accept the will of the people in every pot? Some vote for Bill? Pretty good stuff right there. Maybe one of these days Ramaswami laid this smack it down right? Who's the manager? What do you say? Hegerial? He's a puppet for the managerial Christ is that for baseball? Or Joe Biden the premier league in soccer? He's the Can I say titular? He's the titular? Be careful you say

that, the titular head of the Democratic Party. He's not the president. I would want to be that either. No, but all those around him, controlled by Barack Hussein Obama, they're the ones running the country telling Biden, what to do and what not to do. Gotta be careful when you

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ankle t Higgins hurt in the practice with a ham hamstring. Excuse me too, trist Thank you. Houston listed twenty three players on their injury list yesterday. Eleven did not practice. Uh oh, so you'd want to play some football go to Houston, but not this week. High school action Willie and Ohio Boys State soccer semi finals. Mowler rolled at twenty four to oh last night, edging out Columbus Saint Charles one Nill in Division IE place of the

Crusaders, posting their twenty third shutout of the year. Will take on Cleveland Saint Nasis Saturday for the state title four pm in the capital city of Columbus. Will they be here on Monday if they win? Yes, talk to Carl Barrett, Barrett at Cohen and Tom Gregory will bring him down on the limits. I guess right there they're the closes. I guess Madera is closer. Next to that is smaller, right, and then Deer Park the source

of all wisdom. Worthington Christian got by a Waynesville last night four nil in the Division three state semifinals. Good luck to Summit Country Day and Cincinnati Country Day. The girls teams there go for State finals tomorrow. Ohio High School volleyball State semifinals Today in Division one it is mcnick up against Meadowbrook and Division and that's Division three, Division one Mercy McCauley against Marlington coming up. Lebron James is going to open up his own museum, of course in Akron.

Of course, Jay Phillips, who runs Deer Park Schools, wants a museum to me, and I have some objects to give to him for the Willie Museum in Deer Park. Now wouldn't that be something? Yeah? No, who said no? He said no? No. President Obama, who is Oh, that's Lebron says no, he doesn't. What in your musque serving people uses egomaniac? What do you mean? Ego maniac? What is that? More? Soccer, Willie FC Cincinnati will take on Philadelphia Union in the

upcoming Eastern Conference semi finals. They will start November twenty fifth or twenty sixth. Really, yes, go go go got wrong with him? College basketball Tonight, the NKU Norris are out west to take on the PAC twelve Washington Huskies. What about Mitt Cronin the action at ten thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty, we also say congratulations to lesal z Own and Cincinnati's best coach, Mick Crodin really gets his one hundredth win the other night at UCLA when the Bruins

beat Saint Francis seventy five to forty four. Five years at UCLA, couldn't coach In Clifton anymore, right, got rid of him five years at w You get on the plane. Thank you. Five years at UCLA, Mick Cronin. One hundred wins, thirty six losses. Not bad and that's big time, would you agree? UCLA Basketball and the Cincinnati Bearcats got a couple of big recruits yesterday. They're in action tomorrow night more tonight on the Wes

Miller Show. What about those two guys At eight oh five on the original Montgomery End, what about those two guys. It's Queen City product Tyler McKinley out of Waltedt Hills and Winton Woods. You refuse to answer my question. Six nine power forward average seventeen points a game. The Bearcats also sign up strong forward Tyler Betsy, who was rated the top player in the state of

Connecticut. Say take a look at CNN. Brothel Network's clients include politicians, military officers, corporate execs, government contractors, and segment What does that mean? Do you use high end prostitutes to satisfy your most perverted desires? No? Where did that come from? CNN? Kid Chris is on that list? Right there, CNN. I think Kid Chris is on that list high end customers. Oh he's a high end customer? Are about you? What can you tell me? I know? Where was that at where they fly

him in on private jets? Well, he so does he? I'm thinking, well, I mean, how can these names never get out? Like Jeffery Epstein, Lolita Highlight? Can you tell me nothing? Nothing? Have

you heard me nothing? It's been three to six years exactly. And whoever's on those manifests supposedly dozens and dozens of top politicians, right secret service protected individuals, and none of the names are ever known, went down there to rock and roll into Bahamas right with you to pull and right there the high end constitution trade of which you profit one way or another, according to CNN, is all all the names are secret. Of course, Kid Chris is

involved in this. I can't say, oh you are? He is? You heard my resignation he put together? Yeah, I heard that and Gary Jeff put it together. That was AI at its best. I think the norms have really changed in terms of what you can do to somebody against their will. That's the truth. That's sure to Paula Corbyn Jones. Yeah, little Kathleen Willie action. Yeah. And when I was in England, I experimented with marijuana a time or two and I didn't like it and didn't inhale

and never try to again. Got to come to Ohio. I was going to say, when does that start? Supposedly thirty days, supposedly December the seventh, but I I got the governor. That's right, you got to You got a state exclusive coming up here in about ten minutes. We're going to find out what the main man. I gotta text him and remind him, don't forget, don't hang me out to dry. Governor. I could switch on a moment with the first lady on and he knows all about that

stuff. Well, not her, but the oh well put columns. What the yeah, well he said he was gonna come on. Uh yeah, there he is again. I'm afraid to call him because he's bigger than Montana, right, he's probably yeah, it's probably sitting down at the Western Southern right now getting looking at financially, clearly, you have completely made me. I don't know how to thank you enough. It's about time he said something he likes his About time he thanked us for something nothing. He lights his

Cuban cigars with one dollar bills, just lights alone. I call it and l But your name was just announced by CNN. It's on the list of high end client right, your name's on there too, flying your private Godsloan Gary Jeff Walker. Don't forget about Eddie, Eddie Rocky, high end Lance. I watched people like Lance. I like to know the names on Lola Island. Let's go back just a little bit. Yeah, let's get those guys. Yeah, where's that notebook and find it? Search warrant hunter Biden's

laptop. I don't know about that. The Trumpster right there, there's the problem right there. I'm sure his Uh. They had the debate last night. Did you watch any of it? No? I can't. I can't watch it. What about the what about the Trumpsters? Was it knocked and stacked at his event? Many empty seats? Really? Yes? But I think people are getting disillusioned. Will just tell me who the nominees are eleven and a half. Yea, yeay Hillary. Is that Gary Jeff messing you

with it again? On Ai? That's Ai again? I thought Ai was Alan Iverson announcing my resignation and appointing Gary Jeff Walker. This is my successor, entitle. I will give them the keys of the kingdom. See what Gary Jeff does with him. And I'm going to I'm going to fly to China with the new with those pandas going back home. And that's sad. We lost time just because they're mad at us. Chinese ta get out on the poor pandas, and now people won't be able to watch if changed now

and then, shouldn't they be happy with that? I don't know, but I mean all the all the millions of people that have seen those pandas, and they just eat bamboo and play all day long, kind of like me. You eat kit kats and yeah, play all day long. What can I say? Well, they better not remove h Tucker, Bbe Fritz and uh then you're talking about action. That's a tough family right there, Amen, big mouth. I don't even if you can't even, I don't know

how you move them. Only if they want to move. Thank you. It's like the camel my wife wrote in them in Israel. If the kambelln't want to move, forget it, You're not moving. So she got on the back of that thing like Lawrence of Arabia. A guy named Mohammed shows up, pulls out this huge camel from a rider truck rental and he says

a few things. I'm only catching a few words, uh huh. And it came down to twenty bucks at a group of thirty and I say, who wants to be the first to ride the camel in the back of the pack. I heard a familiar voice. I'll do it up. Watch the people's judge. I said, you got to be kidding me what I said, here's twenty bucks to Muhammad, here's the twenty So then she kneels down the camel, gets on the back, and gallops off toward getssemone and the

and the entrance to the Old City on the back of a camel. She looked like he looked like Jennifer of Arabia. I'm just saying, I said, go get her. So Muhammad goes chasing down the camel, and she was riding it like Steve cauthorine on the backstretch of Belmont. I said, you got to be kidding me. Get off the damn camel. I'm loving this. I said, well, you're on your own, and you didn't.

You didn't even attempt to get all this, did't get home, and said I told Mohammad, And I said, look, Mohammad, just stay right here, all right, I'm not moving. Hold on to Leroy here. I don't want Leroy bounding off towards the mount of Olives. Say get me out of the stud's report. The governor is scheduled in ten minutes. Will Hee and Hotter of an exclusive with the Governor de Wine coming up. We leave you with the immortal words of the stood report. We're going to

South Carolina and Oklahoma and Arizona and North Dakota and New mex Dico. We're going to California and Texas and New York, and we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan, and then we're going to Washington, d C. To take back in the White House. That's Howard the duck Dean. He didn't even get to Iowa, did he. He got as far as Kamala Harris or New Hampshire segment. Thank you, Yes, sir, Let's continue with more Bill cunning in the Great American Live. That's your home

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Chevrolet, located on YOUS fifty in Milford. Nothing says welcome home like insanely clean carpets from Zero's Carpet Governor Mike Dwine who rules the state with an iron grip, and Governor Mike DeWine, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Governor, first of all, let's deal with state Issue number one with your permission. The Billy Billy. Good to be back. I don't think I have an iron grip, but it's always good to be back. And looking

for a win for the Bengals this weekend, that would be good. But Issue one is one that I thought would go the other way despite the polling. In the constitution, we now enshrine abortion rights from a moment of conception through delivery. And first of all, what are your thoughts on that. Secondly, do you support more efforts to put more amendments on the ballot or should we live with this for a while? Well, Bill, first of all, you know on your show, I expressed my opinion about Issue one.

We accept the results the voters, uh, decided to pass Issue one and put that into the constitution. So I think that, you know, we we accept the result of the voters. That's what we do in this in this country. I think, uh, you know, some of the things are going to be fought out frankly in court. I already saw that some of the Democrat members of the General Assembly want to want to roll back, uh you know, the laws and the laws that have been passed in

the past. Uh you know, rental consent required for an abortion. There's some members of the General Assembly want to get rid of that. I think that would obviously be a mistake. There are others who uh you know, I suppose would want to get rid of the ban we have on partial birth abortion. So I think that a lot of this bill is going to be played out now in the courts as people try to uh you know, do away with those the protections, and we'll have to see how the court's rule.

I think that I did a press conference on this this morning. Issue won an issue too, and you know what I said to the news media kind of repeat here, and that is that I think we just see. I think we you know, people in a democracy, in a country like ours, no issue is ever totally done. We just continue to look at things. So I think people are going to have to see, how, you know, living with abortion at any point, whether that is something that

people you know, accept or not. I think one of the things that the pro side did, you know, they spent about thirty five million dollars. A lot of money came from out of state. The governor of Illinois, for example, put in half a million dollars. We had other out of state money come in. So they outspent our side the No side about three and a half to one. But the way they framed the issue,

I think is the way it was accepted by most voters. That is, did you like the status quo or did you like what they were presenting? And you know, while they denied that this was really abortion on demand, abortion any place in the pregnancy, that is, that is really what it is. And so it was that versus the status quo. And what I think it was clear to me over the last year or so since Roe v. Wade was overturning, is that the majority of Ohian's, the vast majority

of Olands, believe there should be an exception for rape and incests. And so I think, you know, we had Peter people who voted yes because they thought there should be an exception for rape and incests. So they had choices, they picked one. But the truth is that most Ohioands, frankly, are somewhere in the middle, and they didn't have that they didn't have that option, whether you know, governor whether you like it or not.

I haven't seen your oath of office recently, but I'm sure somewhere in there says you will support and defend the constitution of the State of Ohio. And whether you like it or not, the State of Ohio constitution says abortion on demand basically forever as far as the eye can see. And so will you work to overturn that through another constitutional amendment or do you support it the way

it is? Look, Bill, you're you're absolutely right. Uh, I you know, I will follow the will of the people of the state, and we all, we hope follow the law. Uh. Is there a time in the in some point in the future that people look at this and decide, Hey, that's not really exactly what we want. Maybe we can get something in the middle. Yeah. I think there's something that that may come up at some point. But I think people have to have a chance

to see how this works set uh, settling. I don't think that, you know, I don't think there's going to be a ballot issue back on until people have had a chance at least to you know, see how this works. That's kind of the way that our system should I hate it, don't like it. Every fiber of my being says the human life begins at the moment of conception through natural death. We can't convince our fellow citizens that that's the way it ought to be. And whether I like it or not,

it's a bitter pill that I think. Unlike me, I'm a talk show host. All I do is talk. You actually have to do something. And when Governor DeWine sends the message let it ride for a while, I think that's a powerful voice. Is that what you're saying. Well, I don't know if I put it in that in that term bill, but I do think, you know, we follow the law, and I think that people have to have a chance to see how how how this works.

I don't think this reflects exactly where people are in the state. I think most people are somewhere in between that they don't think that you should have an abortion on demand at any point. But I think the majority clearly now do believe that, uh, you know, abortion should be available at least for a certain period a certain period of time during during the pregnancy. I think it's it's again part of this we've always known is trying to win the hearts

and minds of people as well as the law. And you know, I just want to give a public shout out to the pregnancy centers around the state. There's well over one hundred of them. They're they're manned primarily by volunteers, and their goal is to reach out to women who are in a pregnancy and have been for whatever reason, have a difficult time and try to give them the help and support that they need. So everybody who's out there doing that and who can listen to us, you and me on the radio,

I just want to I want to thank them. You know they're doing They're doing the Lord's work and we I'm very grateful for what they do every day. Better pill for you to swallow. But it is what it is. Issue too Whether I voted yes on Issue too because I thought, okay, this is a start in the right direction. Well, the Governor of Ohio work to implement meant the people's wishes on issue too, or where you work

to circumvent or change it. I think the people's will clearly bill on this is that we have legal marijuana in the state of Ohio for adults, and so I accept that part of the way issue too, And of course the difference is, as you know, being the great lawyer that you are, as well as the great American issue one was a constitutional amendment issue too, is a law, and the legislature certainly has the opportunity to fine tune that.

One of the things that I talked about today was, you know, how do we carry out the will of the people in getting marijuana legally out

for adults, but at the same time protect our kids. And so you know, I'm in favor of the legislature doing everything they can in statute to make sure that while the will of the people is carried out and we have legal marijuana, that's done in a responsible and respectful way, and that we protect our kids by respect protecting our kids, I mean, let's do what we can do to reduce the number of kids who end up in the emergency

room because they ate a gummy bear or a cookie that had marijuana. Let's do what we can to reduce the number of deaths on the highway because we have marijuana impaired drivers. Let's do what we can do to keep marijuana away from children who teenagers, whose minds are still developing whose brains are still developing, because we know that the regular use of marijuana for that sixteen year old or eighteen year old is a very grave danger to their IQ and can have

permanent effect. I think we also, Bill have to work to make sure that people who don't want to be walking down town Cincinnati or downtown Dayton, or or or Cedarville or wherever. Uh you don't don't have to smell marijuana. What's happening already though, Governor, Well, I understand that let's let's talk about the rights of uhu of other Ohioans. So, you know, people want to smoke it in their in their house, that's fine. If they want to go into a shop that that's where that's what people do.

Uh you know, that's that's fine. Let's let's defend their right. But also let's don't infringe on other people's rights. So the implementation of it, I think bill is important, but we we uh you know, while I vote to know on both of those both issues on issue too, you know, in reguard issue to I think we have to get implemented and do it correctly and do it in a safe way. Well, one thing I find

objectionable. I find many things objectionable. Is so when you have Senator Huffman or a Speaker of the House Stevens come on media and start talking about, well, you know, uh, issue one, we got to get it back on the ballot or issue too, We've got to we can actually repeal the law if we want to, which I guess technically is allowed. It would be disgusting to have the people go through what we just went through for months and months and months and months and then come to a resolution at the

ballot box. Then they have politicians seek ways to overcome what the people said they wanted. So, just philosophically, can you smell what I'm cooking? Yeah, I can smell what you're cooking. Look, I think that we

have to respect what the people did. We also have to say this is always subject to continuing public debate and for the people of the state to look at what they've done, just like we look at laws bill that are passed by the legislature and people have to decide, you know, they have to buy them as long as they're laws, But then they have to also decide, well do I like that law? And if they don't like it,

there's a process. There's a process to change it. So if people don't like what the the voters did, at some point in the future, uh, you know, they have the opportunity to to change that. But I think the most important thing on Issue one particularly, uh is for people, whether they voted yes or voted no, to follow this see how it works. Uh see if the people who said that there would be no late term abortions, uh see if that's actually true. See if partial birth abortion uh

is does not come back. You know, these are all things. There are promises made during the campaign, and I think, uh, you know, people voted, We accept that, but uh it's always a question of uh, you know, did were the proponents telling the truth? Did it turn out? Did the end of the story turn out like the prologue or how they said the you know, the dust jackets said, then you have to wait for a year or two for that to happen, right, you

have to wait some time. I don't know how long, but you certainly have to wait bill to see it. And there's absolutely no that now. Lastly, I I've done some interviews on the coast in which they said what happened to Ohio? That Ohio has become California and New York when it comes

to marijuana and abortion. And I said, look, about a year and a half ago, we had a governor run who was as identified with the pro life movement as any governor in Ohio history, that won the race by twenty percentage points, and by the way, still owes me at cherry pie.

But nonetheless that we elected five Republicans to high office. Republicans dominate the US Supreme Court, at the highest Supreme Court, the Assembly House, in the Senate, and so well, I said, it's not exactly right, but Mike, you're the governor, the most popular one of all time by the numbers, during a time we're partial birth, abortion in marijuana in a

sense have both been legalized. How does that make you feel? Well, it's not good and it's not something that I signed up for, but look, I'm the governor, and you know, we we voted and we had a result, and at least for the time being, that's what the result is. In fact. So no, it's not what I thought I was going to do, and you know, it was not a happy election for me. But hey, you know what my obligation is is you know, let's take marijuana. My obligation is okay, the people said, yes,

we want it. My obligation, Bill is to make sure we do it the right way, and we do it in a way that protects innocent children. Do it in a way that you know, the advertising is not out there there's aim directly at our young people. So you know, these are things that I'm in this place at this time in history. And while I may not like the big result, I have, I think an obligation to try to make this thing work so that Ohioan's it works as smoothly as possible

and it works in a way that does not damage children. Governor lastly goes into effect December the seventh, by the dictates of what we voted for. It's December seventh, it's in effect. How do you do all this with marijuana in the next twenty four days, Well, we're going to see what the legislatures can do. We have you know, as you know, Bill, I can propose things, and I have proposed to the legislature. I'm going to meet with the Senate President in the Speaker on Monday. We've already

talked by phone. I think the goal should be to get this done, because I think it's not particularly helpful to start down a pathway and the law going to effect and then the law change. You know, Ideally, we would get these things done prior to it going into effect, and then it would be smooth. It would be a smooth transition and we would move.

That'd be great, you know. That's look, you can, That's what our ideal is, and I think we should strive to do that, because it's not particularly helpful to people, uh, you know, for them to see the law going to effect and it'll be one thing and then uh, you know, we see changes uh in the future. So if we can do this and wrap this up in a short period of time, we'll at least try. Will you lead and tell them, look, this was voted

on, it's a done deal. The people want marijuana. I have a text here from a listener that says, Governor, could we tolerate a little bit of slavery? Hell no, do not tell people to tolerate a little bit or partial birth abortion. Well you know that's where I am, that's where you are. Look, you tolerate no, no, no, but look here, here, here, here, let's let's cut cut to the

quick uh partial birth abortion. The other side, the proponents of one said we won't see that in Ohio. Mike the Wine, they said, Mike to Wine, you're wrong, We're not going to see that. We had other people who said, Mike to Wine, we're not going to see parental consent go away. Just because this has past that I hear to day that they're Democrats and the legislature who want to pass a bill that take that takes away parental rights. Now that's isn't that a little disingenuous? Yes, these

are the same people that were were three days ago. We're telling us, oh no, no, it won't happen that. No, no, to Wane, you're crazy. Now now I'm watching members of the General Assembly Democrat party who three days before we're telling us, oh no, no, it's okay, we won't general rights will be respected. Now they're introducing bills to take away pray all rights. What hypocrisy couldn't agree more? And I I'm just this is a bitter pill for right to lifers to swallow and it is

not going down very well at all. Well, look, we have a you know, if if if you're a believer, you believe that we have an obligation to do what we think is right. And it doesn't mean we always win, it doesn't mean we all succeed. We have an obligation to do what we what we think is right, and you know we'll continue to do that. And again, you know, bless those who are out there and you know, pregnancy centers and people who are quietly doing volunteer work to

help moms and to help babies. Yep, Governor, thank you, and thanks for setting the record straight. And I think the will of the people need to implement it. And it seemed like the will of the people said partial birth abortion doesn't happen. And secondly, parenta rights are not effected. Let's see what happens that pat part of be thrown inside. But on marijuana, I think the people have spoken. Hopefully you convinced fellow Republicans to enact

their will. Yeah, well let's let's let's let's in us sports note. Uh, thank Julie Voto for almost two decades of forty great fun. My dad loved watching him, my late mother in law love watching him. I love watching him best my kids do. And uh, what a what a great guy. And we're very U. You're sorry to see him leave, but he gave us, you know, almost two decades, and we'll see him. My plan on being there when he's inducted into the Hall of Fame

seventeen years, he'll be. He'll be in Cooperstown. He'll be. He'll be in Cooperstown as soon as as he is eligible. And that's a great thing. And yep, let's go Bengals this weekend, all right, Mike Governor, thank you very much for coming this afternoon, Philly. Good to be with you always, God pleasure, Thank you. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundreds wlw enture to win the Ultimate Escape in twenty twenty four, and if you listen here with the free iHeartRadio app,

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there was. There's about twenty I'd say twenty to twenty five pro Palestinian protesters say Atleda, I say that three times fast Toledo. No, it was about Yeah, it was about you know, two miles from campus. Oh right, I'll tell you're avoiding the obvious. Uh, you're changing the subject. Don't tell. Don't tell me you're going to talk about Saint X or Notre Dame or nothing. They're done, Dunn done, Go ahead, But I have made twelve twenty twenty three when the Bengals schedule came out and I

said, at that point, we'll review it halfway into it. We're about halfway into it, five and three. There's nine games left. Right according to Rocky, he has the Bengals beating the Browns. How that turnout? They didn't get them? But what was yours? What did you say? Don't lie? Yeah, don't lie. You're gonna say. I know you're gonna say that I picked the Browns. I know you're gonna say that I picked the Bengals. Okay, second game, I took the Ravens to win,

and both of you took the Bengals to win. So I'm one up and three. Well, we have the Bengals winning. All of us have been winning Game three, Game four, Game five, the Cardinals. In fact, we I have wins, but I have Sam Francisco beating the Bengals and the Rockhead San Francisco beating the Bengals. But the segment had the Bengals beating San Francisco. Yeah, and man, he also every game he's got them all seventeen and he's got seven. I had twelve and five, you

have thirteen. I think my twelve and five is going to be a lot closer than you're thirteen and four and is seventeen and oh? Is that correct? Hell? I mean maybe I should be an analyst for Toledo Sea. Go to Fancy's, go to Pacos, get some Garian hot dogs. Make your head cut off too. Well, those Palestinians, did you confront them with yours? I gave him your phone number. You gave him this guy.

Any time you go to Old Orchard right there, Shelton there, go talk to that Yes, something, He's got plenty of contributions for you. I just had on your good friend Mike Dewan. Okay, we have some questions for you, but tell me what he said. First. I said, when you took office, I don't have the I don't have the oath in front of me, but I bet it said you will support and defend the constitution of the State of Ohio. He said yes, And I said,

abortion from conception through birth is now the law of the land. What are you going to do? He said, I'm going to implement. I'm going to do what I can do to make that happen. However, he said that your friends on the Democratic side said during the race that there would

be no partial birth abortion and parental consents not an issue. Now the Democrats your friends in Columbus yesterday in acted try to enact legislation that would take out of Ohio statute books the prohibition on birth or partial birth abortion and parnal consent to get rid of it. A little bit of a problem there, so that'll be the wrong courts in the bill, they're trying to go a little step further, for a little bit more. They said, well, that's

not a partial birth. Abortion doesn't happen. That's already illegal by federal law. But the federal law on this is done, so it's only the state law of that matters. So now the court will decide that minor issue to be tied up in court for a long time will be tied up. So

what do you think is gonna happen? Yeah, I mean, just on you know, live in person to the next couple of years with abortion in Ohio, it's gonna well, I anticipate because of pharmaceutical abortions and because of abortion tourism that actual abortions in Ohio aren't gonna go up much at all, because you can I mean, sixty percent of abortions are through the mail. Okay, then then why Okay, I agree with you, that's my point.

So why did so many people fight tooth and nail and give up so many other things that they possibly value to fight and die on the vine for that issue when nothing is gonna damn chances all this segment's girlfriends. His name was on the list of the high end rollers with these high class prostitutes the money, get your jaloue. Josh, yeah, you're jealous. And so if a woman today doesn't want to get pregnant, there's about ten thousand ways

not to get pregnant. But if you get you can order on your phone. Yeah, and so whatever. But if you do get pregnant, you got Planned B. What about Plan B? Well, I'm not sure if I'm pregnant or not, take Plan B. And then if it comes back, guess what, you got a baby growing in your womb. You can go online and get the abortion pills delivered like candy. And that would would not have been in violation of statement two days ago, today or tomorrow.

No, nothing, And so one might say, what are we fighting about when in two years supposedly it'll be eighty percent through Why did so many people and let me call what is mostly women just hook their wagon into that issue, then if nothing is going to change, and thereby doing so, give up their probably their standards on other issues. Well because they were told something that how do we stop people from believing bull crat? Good luck with that.

I got another question for you before we get to the other question. I'm watching the celebration on election night in Columbus on a TV station in Columbus. There are tiers of joy, tiersas and champagne being popped because now we can kill more unborn, healthy babies in the womb. Now is that something you would celebrate? Say, boy, guess what, we got to kill

more babies. Therefore, let's have some champagne. Let society does not shun those people anymore because they've been beaten over the head and say, well, you got to accept everybody accept their opinion now, don't it should be shamed? What is your question? Okay, here's my question. You and I agreed upon yesterday that abortion or the you know, pro life cannot be a

major issue with the Republican Party moving forward. Correct. The wine said that it needs to have time or to develop over the next year or two So the question is, and now let's talk about the presidential race. Let's talk

about how that relates to the governor's race. Mike de Wine, as you well know, is a very staunch pro life person, yet he was elected overwhelmingly in the state of Ohio. So my question is this, how did he how was he able to still be pro life but not allowed that issue to be the centerpiece of his campaign, where so many others have been either tricked or allowed pro life to be the centerpiece of their campaign and thus scuttling

their their potential. One main reason his Democratic opponent had little or no ability to raise significant money to raise abortion as an issue, and so the governor ran on about five or six different issues other than abortion, and that his opponent did not make it a big issue because there wasn't enough money out there. Son Donald Trump. Now Trump has found a way always to not less an issue. Difine him, and I think he's gone both sides on that

issue forever. How many abortions has he paid for? I can't say. I can't say. But then he appointed the three greatest justices in my lifetime, and then so so he could say, look, I've already taken care of the worry about the Southern boarding, about taxes and about Ukraine. So many other candidates cost Daniel Cameron the election, no question, and Mike Dwine

did it the right way. And he's so good at political I mean, if you were to pick, if you line up fifty governors, fifty men that we know, and say which one's the governor of Ohio and put Mike in the group, he'd be picked number fifty. Yeah. And that's not even that it's not even like the job you do. But in terms of political mastery of how to run, how to win, that guy right there, I'd pay attention to him. Give me some reports because Rocky refuses to

consent to the idea. I know more about football than he does. I got the selections right. Here were the student reporters, approp servers, every local tenth star heating get air conditioning dealers, temeh star quality you can feel in Cincinnati, called the experts at Preferred Home Comfort five, one, three, eight, nine to two h v A C. Here's another one. I picked the Ravens to win Thursday night, and you took the Bengals along

with the Spangles. Bengals Bengals. What if I win that game, you're done, but you can't beat me because you're gonna do win another hot Fudge Sunday. We haven't win from there on out, then, Yeah, we got them both. I got case I got Casey. I think twelve and five will be closer than than the thirteen and four. I think it's a tough division. Five losses and I win and they have three already. But I think you owe me at you go get that hot fudged Sunday tomorrow.

Their Rock say why did you give me some sports? And quit babbling over there? Bengals and Texans Sunday preview the game tonight with the Rock and Lance. Yeah, I can't wait? Uh? What the Roundtable show starting at six oh five live from Long Necks and hebron right here on seven hundred WLW. Does Lance behave himself when he's there? Is he? Except when he starts doing theos late in the show and then it gets a little weird? Yeah, it's it's not safe for kids. Is he wearing a Kaepernick jersey?

What's he wearing? His wife's wearing a Caepernick jersey? What are you looking at her for? Let's see what are you talking about? High school soccer tomorrow or Moler goes to twenty four and oh they beat Columbus Sat. Charles last night. So the Crusaders twenty three shutouts on the year, meet Cleveland Saint Ignacious Saturday for the state title at four. If they win, that to the greatest soccer team of all time NKU Norris and at Washington against

the Huskies tonight out West ten thirty, ESPN fifteen thirty. Kind of text here, it's a big day at Saint next it's uniform turning day for the football on the soccer team. Is that possible? They didn't do crap anyway? Of course he did. Uniform what's he gonna go buy? Are? What's he gonna go buy one? I don't know. They're unused Mason this weekend they got dirty at all? The uniform nice and clean, right those boys? Nice? Crumpets and Champagne high school volleyball today in the state semi

finals. That make Nick Rockets, the home of Mark Sheer, defeat Meadowbrook three nothing today, So the mcnick Rocks are in the state final. Coming up Mercy McCully Mercy in the semi finals. Back to Bengals. T Higgins not practicing with that hamstring today, Jamar Chase limited. That was minus six and a half right now. But you picked the Bengals, and then I picked the Ravens the Texans this week you also I picked it way ahead of

yourself. Not here. I'm sorry. Can you accept my apology like everyone else does? No? Uh? Coach coach Mick Cronin, congratulations to him. One hundredth win at U c l A earlier this week beating Saint Francis. Couldn't coach anymore at Clifton right, No good? Yeah, five years at U c l A. Cronin one hundred wins, thirty six losses, wins. He plays golf with cream a doljahbar drinks Washington, Washington. That's my favorite, boy as a pool house out back where it has some uc

LA devotays. I'm not going there now, Okay, have you been there to the show? I'm not. I do not put myself in the occasion of sin. I don't do that. See you anymore. But Rock, thank you, thank you said, get me out of the stooge report. Willie and Otter of a nice day here in the Tri State and who days and rockets filled with Palestinians. We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooed Report. Bill Cunningham is nothing without you. Seg did you put that

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