11-2-23 Bill Cunningham Show

To one point six billion dollars plus after two o'clock today, My early voting continues with your balloting, but until then. Over the years, I've done some work with the Claremont County Veterans' Service Commission and also with Butler County, and each time I did it, I noticed there were many Hamley County veterans that were going to Claremont County, in Butler County and Warren County in order

to get services, which generally included transportation. How do you get through the morass the myriad of difficulties with the VA referral for a doctor's appointment, etc. And each of the organization has told me separately something's wrong in Hamlety County with a Veteran Service Commission, and so not much came of it. I put it in the back, so well down the road, we'll see what

happens. And it's a great thing that Craig McKee of Channel nine has done an ITEAM type investigation of the Hamley County Veterans Service Commission and specifically the executive director, guy by the name of It appears that all the public moneys through real estate. I think it's point five mills that are paid into this organization and if the money's not used, it just goes to the general fund and get stuck in with a bunch of other stuff. And so, Craig McKee

of Channel nine, We're nine stands for news. You're joining us now, and Craig McKee, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And can you tell the American people in general what caused your ITEAM investigation of the Veteran Service Commission here in Hamilton County. Well, Bill, it's a pleasure to be on with you today to talk a little bit more about this. Ultimately, you know, we need to be giving our veterans a hand up. And that's

where this all starts. A number of complaints veteran who said that he went there many years ago, tried to get assistance and was pretty much blown off because he didn't have an appointment. That turned me then to of course, the world of social media and the internet, and I started I just put a fishhook out there basically to say, hey, any other veterans had any issues with any VSO in the Southwest Ohio area. And immediately some of the

initial responses were don't go to Hamilton County. Go to Butler County, go to Claremont County, go to Warren County. You're not going to get help in Hamilton County. I never have had to use I'm an Air Force veteran. I've never had to use the services through the Hamilton County Veterans Service Commission or the VSO. Even I've gone through the Cincinnati VA Medical Center and gone

through that process, but I've never had to use this office. But it was clear that there was some concerns for veterans, so I immediately began reaching out. And when I reached out, the initial call to the office to speak to the executive director, William Betcher, I basically received a return phone call from the administrative assistant there, who told me that he told her that

he didn't have time to sit down and referred me to their website. And if you look at their website, their website actually had outdated information on it on when their next meetings were going to take place, so the website didn't

have a lot of information. There are places to click, you know, to try to apply for financial assistance and things like that, but that was not the best answer I was looking for, clearly, because I wanted to do a sit down conversation and talk about the services they offer veterans, and they wouldn't do it. And to go back a little bit, as I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong that point five mills in real estate

taxes are paid by all property owners. And many many decades ago, the lawmakers in Columbus and all eighty eight counties created the Veteran Service Commission with Veteran services organizations and the money goes into the pot point. It's not very much, but it adds up in Hamleton County to tens of millions of dollars. And I think the executive director, William Betcher, is paid north of one hundred thousand dollars to administer this. And I've heard for years something's wrong in

Hambleton Counties. So let's get into the numbers you have in your story. Give me the numbers of veterans serve compared to the other counties that surround Hamilton. All right, So Hamilton County serves right now, according to their data from twenty twenty to forty one, one hundred ninety nine veterans. It's more than double what Butler County serves at twenty thousand, three hundred and forty four

and Warren County follows up at twelve one hundred and eighty one. Now mister Bencher receives one hundred and twenty three thousand, eight hundred ninety one dollars for his salary. And they could have requested we referenced the point five mills. They are allowed to request up to seven million dollars in change, so seven point zero eighty four and change they could have requested. Now they did request one point three almost one point four million to then only spend nine hundred and

thirty thousand dollars. In comparison, when you look at say Butler County, a Butler County, you know, comes in second with a number of veterans that they're serving. And while they too sent money back to the general fund of two point five million dollars, they were allocated four point four million dollars in change. Obviously, you know, property values differ from county to k

and different counties spend different percentages. But Hamilton County said to the bottom of how much they spend of what they're allotted by the point five mills at eighteen percent of the funding and they spent, which was kind of astonishing. And again every county is different. You know, Hamilton County does have a metro

bus service and other rural areas won't have those types of services. But you know, when you look at Butler and Claremont County, they have transportation systems set up where they can get veterans from door to door, they can pick them up at their home, take them to critical medical appointments, and get them back home. Whereas Hamilton County relies on the metro bus system and they spent five hundred and thirty eight dollars on their own reporting for those services in

twenty twenty two, Whereas you have Butler and Warren County. Warren County spent over a million dollars on transportation and Butler County spent over a quarter of a

million for transportation for veterans according to their reports. So the forty one thousand veterans in Hamilton County, by the taxpayers, should have available to them up is seven million dollars a year out of the Veteran Service Commission slash Veteran Services Organization, and they Hamilton County in twenty twenty two spent nine hundred thousand,

which is a pittance compared to the other counties. Now, as far as your services, can you tell the American people, Craig McKee of Channel nine, what are specifically the services that we taxpayers want to provide the veterans? What kind of services give me two or three or four things we should be providing. If we had a competent Veteran Services Commission in Hamilton County, what

are the services? Well, the interesting thing here, Bill is that the law says that they have to provide services for processing paperwork, applying for benefits, transportation and other things. But there's no guidance. Each VSO or VSSE and every single county can operate how they choose, So there's not a set template by the state that says you need to provide XYZ. When it comes to transportation, they leave it up to the Veterans Service Commission to decide and

then ultimately with the Executive Director to decide what is best for veterans. Now, since this story ran on Monday, I can tell you that I have had my inbox flooded with veterans and my voicemail flooded with veterans who had years and years and years of frustration tied to the VSC in Hamilton County. And the problem is that they got so frustrated that they actually went to then Butler

or Warren or Claremont County. And I've had VFW commanders reach out to me on email saying that they send their veterans to other locations because they know the problem. The issue is there are no official complaints on file when you do a public records request, there isn't a laundry list of public at least according to the records that they've kept. There are no official complaints about the process because veterans get frustrated with the process and then they go elsewhere instead of filing

an official complaint. That's the quagmire right now for so many looking at this that there's an entity in their county. The Hamilton County commissioners are looking at this now. Hamilton County Commissioners approve the budget in the sense that the commission the VSC submits their budget of what they plan to request, they submit it to Hamilton County, and Hamilton County basically rubber stamps it, so to speak. Hamilton County Commissioners have no fingers in the game plan of what VSC is

executing in their county. So right now Hamilton County Commissioners are trying to figure out how can we help veterans more with the services, and they've asked that the executive director himself, William Bill Betcher, comes in or representative of the VSC to the commission meeting today. And I've been told just a little while ago that they do not plan to attend this one PM meeting the Hamilton County

Commissioner. When I did some work with Claremont County Veteran Services Organization, what they did was if if there was a veteran having mental health problems immediately there's forty forty or fifty veterans every day that kill themselves, that they would have an emergency meeting with other veterans. Some other veteran may be down on his luck and need money to pay the rent for two months, and so he would make an application in Claremont County that veteran, and there's a board and

Clairemont County would say, is this legit? We have to know this guy. Someone might have a car payment due that he can't make, and the group would get together and say, you know what, we got to help Tony Bender. He's served in Vietnam, he's down, he is seventy eight years old, and let's make a car payment. But we got to work

with this guy to make sure he's up on his own. Clairemont County and Butler County and Warren County, I've worked with them, do fabulous work with veterans and helping They do events out there where they have a bake sale, they raise the election. It's a very active organization. And every time I would say what about Cincinnati Hamilton County, and they just their eyes would roll.

And it comes down the executive director, William Betcher, is getting paid one hundred and twenty three thousand dollars a year to serve the needs of veterans. And either the guy doesn't care or he borders on in confidence because he's not getting the job done. And the fact that at one o'clock today, in about forty five minutes, your sources tell you that haven't been requested to appear before the Commission, that Betcher and his band is not going to show

up. That is correct, That is correct, And you know, I do want to be you know clear here that what they're doing is not technically illegal their operation correct. It's an optics issue. If other counties have you know, lower they don't have seven million dollars to spend. However, they are running all of these other programs to help veterans and have more staff members in their office to process claims. You know, it's an optics issue.

And all we want to know. All I want to know on behalf of the taxpayers and veterans in Hamilton County is what are they doing and why do they think what they have set up is the best game plan to help veterans and to give veterans a hand up that they deserve. That's the essence of

it. And maybe William Betcher's the best thing since slice bread. Who knows, But everyone you talk to around the Try States say, boy, don't go to Hamlet And County if you're a veteran because and you have something in your story about a veteran showed up at the office I think and spoke to a woman there and the veteran tried to help getting through the VA morass and benefits kind of describe what happened with that with that veteran. Yeah, as

Ernest Coleman went there again. He didn't have an appointment. He showed up out of the blue, unclear of even how to navigate the process. So, like so many veterans when we get out of the service, especially, it's a little bit better now, but when I got out of the service in two thousand, it was pretty much there's the door, see you later.

So the guidance the veterans today receive is better than it used to be, But for so many veterans, you know, trying to navigate the process on how you get benefits and how do you apply and what boxes do I need to check on this form? And how do I submit the form? Well, I mean he went to the office he the according to him, the receptionist was very rude, did not provide any information, hammered him about

not having an appointment and just coming in. And then when he asked for a supervisor, as he explained, and another older gentleman came in from the back, and he says, pretty much gave him the same run around, and then he was like, that's that's it. I'm going elsewhere. And he actually went up to Dayton to get some information instead, And you know, he's not alone. There are so many veterans that go through this process.

In fact, Congressman Winstrip who I've spoken with on many veterans issues, he even had his own, you know issues when filing claims and going through his process, and he's a representative. So this goes across the board that that you know, it's not a simple task. And while the government is has tried to streamline this process for veterans and it is better today than it used to be, it's still a process. And if you are unsure how

to navigate that process, we need people in offices. And it's nothing against the Veteran Service officers who are doing the work doing the work in Hamilton County. The men and women in the offices there are that are filing the claims, that are doing what they're supposed to do. And so many of these vsos across the Southwest region and even across the state, they are doing great things to process claims because I see the numbers of claims that they have all

processed. But that said, clearly, Hamilton County appears from the outside, you know, when you compare them to other operations, they just aren't doing necessarily what they could be doing, there's so much more money left on the table that they could be using. And just to let your viewers not because I know you have a broad range of viewers that listen online as well. We actually mind the data for five years. That's where the third over thirty

one million dollars comes from. The it's unspent over the five year mark. Hamilton County VSC did not request They left thirty one million dollars on the table, so to speak, did not request that for any services tied to veterans. And again many counties do return money. But we have put in this story online at WCPO dot com slash home front. In this story is a

graph for every single county in the state of Ohio. You can go click on your county and it'll tell you how many veterans are there, how much money they spent, how much money they didn't spend, and how much went back to general funds and other data as well. So I encourage your viewers that are in other counties to definitely go check out and see what their own county is doing, and if they have any concerns, certainly reach out to

me. And lastly, Craig McKee, I would say that when the money is not spent or not requested, it goes into the general fund, which is hundreds of millions of dollars, and a set of we taxpayers who put zero point five mills, which is a very small amount each into the end of the pot to help veterans, that simply has sucked into the whole system. And there needs to be a refe of the Veteran Service Commission. And lastly, I would say that at this point it appears from your story Hamany

County commissioners requested somebody coming at one o'clock. But they're a separate organization. They're not part of the Haminy County Commission. In other words, they're just by themselves out there, and like Alisha raised an each three house, they're not in charge. They can hey, they can request it, maybe the county prosecutor. There's nothing criminal here we're talking about, I don't think correct. And so it's like one of these government entities is floating around exactly.

And I've reached out to the Ohio Department of Veteran Services as well with additional public records requests. Somebody at the tipster on the inside has told me that these vsos are not even audited. There's no kind of checks and balance. I've obviously reached out to the state to verify that information and to see if there are audits taking place, give me copies of them, let me know

what you are keeping an eye on. And there's certification questions as well that have popped up, and whether or not certifications that are required, whether or not they're in place. So we are continuing to ask the questions and push for answers to make sure that our veterans again are getting the hand up that they deserve in our community. Too many vets slip through the cracks, and

we can't let that happen. Well after the election, there's so much going on, which youry now on Tuesday, and of course Mike Dwine, I got him coming on, I got Frankle Rose coming on. He's a veteran. After the election, state government's got to put some teeth, some audit. Something's got I'm sure Mike DeWine will do it, Frankle Rose will do it. Bill Sites will do it somehow. Because of your investigation, this needs to rise up to a higher level where since it's public money being spent,

we have to have audits. We have to know what's going on. At this point, they're on their own doing their best. But after the election, let's work together with political contacts or whatever, change the law so that veterans the forty one thousand in Hamlin A County are treated as they should be. Craig McKee, great work, and thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And let's touch base a week or two after the election. That sounds great, Bill, Thanks for having me. All right,

God bless you. Let's continue with more zero point five mills. I don't know what that is. It's about. Each taxpayer is paying about one hundred and ten dollars a year in Hamilton County for veteran services, and we have a department here that's not functioning properly by any fair estimate, and we can't you can't get answers. There is separate entity, so state government's got to get involved. They created the entity, now they need to improve it.

So let's work on it together after the election when things calm down, if they ever calmed down. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WULW Genesis Diamond's biggest and last seats, which is probably about the three or four mile marker of I seventy five North is shut down because a horse trailer is on fire. So we've got all hell breaking loose, including Ron Druce Chicken. There's a

crisis here at the station. We must be fed. So as soon as that thing's opening up, we'll let you know it's going to back up all the way into the Bluegrass. Or I spent some time last night at Walt's hitching Post with many great Kentuckians raising a few bucks for Rob Sanders. Who's the Joe Dieters the Melissa Powers of Kenton County. Of course, he claims

Melissa Powers is the Rob Sanders of Amley County. Different matter. Now, going back to this issue briefly, I have a text here from a Navy veteran who says to me the following, among other things, that it kind of angers him that he pays taxes into a fund and that it's being administered so poorly. He says to me, I got out of the Navy in nineteen seventy one. Fortunately I've never needed benefits from the VA, but if I did, I would have no idea what's available for how to access them?

I hate to think I'm paying extra on real estate taxes to his CIS vets, but ending up in the general fund. Couldn't they at least spend the money occasionally contact forty three thousand vets him the county. The answer is yes. Here's the problem. As you know, if you pay attention to the station, which we encourage you to do so in ever increasing numbers,

there's veteran services organization in each county. Many years ago, decades ago, the good folks and the General Assembly in Columbus put together a program that charges every property owner real estate property owner point five mills, which is a very small amount, I might only be eighty dollars a year that goes into veteran services in each county. And there's no oversight. And this was done off to the side. And so each county has their own Veteran Service administration.

And the way it works is that the presiding Judge of the county appoints the board itself. There's like five members of the board and there generally are veterans, but there's no rules on that either they're veterans, and so they're appointed in order to administer the program. And so it's called the Veteran Services Commission and Veteran Service Organization, and each county does it on their own. There's no particular rules, and so it's been going on for a long time.

Claremont County and Butler County and Warren County do great work, and I would assume the other counties do also, but I'm not sure. And so every year there should be seven million dollars spent on veteran services, and the veteran boards in each county determine what to spend the money on, and so they keep an eye on the money. And these are great Americans, the groups I work with, and those other three counties, there's like five to ten

members of the board. You make an application for the money, there's investigations briefly conducted as to make sure it's legit, and then the money's available to a vet. It could be paying a month or two of rent. It could be groceries, it could be transportation to a doctor's appointment, it could be emergency veteran services, psychological services. And in other words, each board kind of determines what to spend the money on. Those other counties around Hamlet

County do a very good job because I was involved with them. I watched it, I saw it. I went to events our own Jen Motley, who's a wonderful sales exec. So let's get the word out to tell veterans in these counties the services are available to be determined, whatever services you need. The board or the commission in each county determines whether it makes sense to

spend money on this case. And these are generally conservative Republican, not always Republican, but conservative fifty sixty seven year old men that want to make sure that public money is spent properly. In a sense, no one's in charge other than the commission in each county. The county commissioners are not in charge. I talked to Joe Dieters about this the two or three years ago.

Prosecutor's office are not involved unless there's a crime being committed, and no one no one is a leg that Executive Director William Betcher is committing a crime. Many alleged simply incompetence because other counties are spending up to the limits. In Hamilton County in the last year available, instead of spending seven million dollars on veteran services, they spent about nine hundred thousand, which meant six point one

million went into the general fund. And so I can recall a conversation I had with a county commissioner about five or six years ago about something's wrong in Hamilton County. Whenever you talk to Claremont County, Butler County, Warren County, Green County, Highland County, they all say the same thing, something's wrong in Hamblton County goes services. The forty two thousand veterans in Hamlton County so identified not to go to Hambleton County to get its to get services,

they have to go somewhere else. And this commissioner told me, quote, leave it alone. I said, well, well, I'm going to work for the vets. You know, i'm age appropriate to guys who are in the Vietnam War that I want to make sure these guys are taken care of, because we're paying taxes every year for this to happen. I was told again, leave it alone. But leave it alone. A commissioner told me that if some note about five years ago, he said, we don't control

it at all. And so after the election, when everything settles out in a month or two, I'm going to work with Craig McKee of Channel nine and get the politicians in Columbus. I'm sure Mike DeWine will say yes. I'm sure that Senator Huffman will say yes. I'm sure that Speaker of the House Stevens will say yes. To do some audits find out what's going on.

The person executive director in Hamlet County is appointed by the Commissioners, the Veteran Service Commissioners, who are appointed by the presiding Judge of Common Police Court, who has no idea what's going on. A piece of paper is put in front of the judge, he signs off. That's it. So the commissioners are re pointed another three year term and they of course hire William Betcher to administer the program, which are doing a terrible job compared to other counties.

So I talked to Craig McKee Channel nine off the air and after things settle, we're gonna do something in Columbus to change the way veterans in Hamlety County are treated. And most don't even know what the program is. What most don't even know and that's why there was advertisement going on here and elsewhere. If you're a veteran call the Veteran Service Commission in your home county. Give them your name, your identifiers, you're on the list. Claremont County

and Butler County would send out emails and phone calls. These services are available one, two, three, four five. If you have a need in these areas, please contact the administrative assistant to the Executive Director and we will provide the services. How about that? And so the whole system is crumbling and veteran needs are being ignored because of just a malaise or an incompetence, and no one's alleging criminal misbehavior. What it is is not really caring a

lot. And when Craig McKee four times tries to have an interview with William Betcher and he doesn't have time, he's too busy, that tells you all you need to know. Hamiony County commissioners are not involved. Politicians are not involved. The common pleas presiding judge making the appointment doesn't know who he's appointing, doesn't And the whole system operates, and the executive director makes about one

hundred and twenty five thousand dollars a year along with staff. I would assume it's two or three hundred thousand of the nine hundred thousand has spent administratively, and most veterans, the forty two thousand in Hamilty County have no idea what services are available at all, don't have no clue because the Commission itself does not reach out to tell them. So I'm off my soafbox, but We're

going to try to stay with it. This is metastasized because of the I Team Channel nine now after one o'clock today, we have Brendan call culll who was the chief of staff some twenty years ago to Charlie Luke, and he runs the Chamber of Commerce. And I've had on many on each side of the issue. In a sense, I don't have a dog in this fight because I live in Sycamore Township. I don't live I don't live in the

City of Cincinnati anymore. And it looks to me if I had to vote on this thing, I would probably vote yes that may hurt the ballot issue in the City of Cincinnati, because I trust Bill Sides and Senator Blessing who put the guardrails in place to make sure the money was not Pilford or frittered away by general incompetence. The city of Cincinnati is poorly run by any objective

measurement. It's terrible. And if the guard rails were not in place by Bill sitz Rock Ribbed Republican and Columbus, I probably would have voted, know if I had an opportunity, which I do not. I voted on Tuesday at the Board of Elections in Norwood and it was wonderful. So we're going to have probably have on some other opponent. I present the argument for you

to decide. But this one entity which one does not want to be in bed I think with a railroad right now, especially this one Norfolk Southern, they got problems, they got lawsuits. Heck, I don't know the lawsuits may turn out. The number I hear is eight hundred million dollars they're going to lose on East Palestine. And if there's another derailment might be another eight hundred million or more. What if the dirailment took place in downtown Columbus and

the company had to file bankruptcy to get out of it? Now what Well, then the argument is well, Penn Central or one of the other railroads would step up and take it over, well, it would be in litigation for years and the payments would not have to be made. Right now, the payments are about twenty five million, and the experts say it's going to be closer to one hundred million every year once they sell and do the bonds and stock. Even if it's a good stock, one does not want to

put all your eggs in one basket. Enron was a great company until it wasn't, and right now Apple is a great company until it isn't a great company. So to diverse your investments is a wise matter. At one point, the city of Cincinnati owned railroads and canals and subway systems and water works, and the sewer districts and airports Lunking and Blue Ash, and the city golf courses or avon fields, run so well by professional golfer Run Dumas, who, by the way, is alive. I thought he was dead.

Well, he's alive. The reports of his decease are a bit premature, but the city fathers had great vision and having assets. Cincinnati was once the fourth largest city in America, and it was alive and vibrant. It was a jumping off point to the west. And now they still have assets left, and I'd rather have assets one point six billion run by individuals like Fifth

Third Bank, then have it all in one basket when it's iffy. Now the argument as well, if Norfolk goes out of business, some other railroad will pick it up. That might be in litigation for years and the payments suspend it as the bankruptcy judge determines who gets paid, where, when and how. I don't know, And maybe they don't own the rails anyway. On the railroad, they will put there the tenant and the landlord, where the landlord will be sued for years to determine who owns what, where,

when and why. And then the environmental studies commence. What the hell are we going to do? So someone wants to give the city one point six billion dollars to invest, keep it off to the side. Today it's about five percent. That five percent would be about eighty million dollars a year, My dear park math tells me, so let's continue with more. And lastly, I love pointing out hypocrisies. Jen Saki, the former Biden Press secretary,

married a man from Elder High School. She describes herself as a devout Roman Catholic in support of abortion, which is largely the killing of unborn, healthy babies. Every now and then a baby is born without a brain, that's a different matter. If a rape takes place, that's less than one percent of abortions, that's not good. But she defends her position on abortion by saying she's a practicing Roman Catholic. And also she has often said that

Joe Biden is devout when it comes to his practicing Catholicism. She had said, at one point this morning, President Biden started to stay attending church with his family. And as you know, Joe Biden quote is a devout Roman Catholic who attends church regularly. And of course this is my comment that means he supports killing healthy unborn babies. That is the definition in her mind of

a devout Roman Catholic. And we may talk about rape and incest off to the side, may talk about the life of the mother, but when it comes to abortion, fix in your mind this thought that the great majority of abortions, the killing of the unborn, occur when the baby is happy, healthy and wanting to be born, badly wants to be born, fight like hell during an abortion to survive, So don't use rape as an argument to

allow the other ninety nine percent of abortions. Mothers should not kill their unborn, healthy babies. According to most Democrats, they should. We disagree. I don't know how you can be a devout Roman Catholic and support killing the unborn, but they don't have to face up that. Later on, let's continue later on, we have Brendan Call, Who with the Chamber and more.

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Brendan call, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Brendan, first of all, do you miss your days as the halderman and the airly command, the praetorian guard around Charles Lucan is the mayor? Do you kind of miss those days at all? I mean it's twenty years ago now, which is hard to believe. But the best part was that you would just call me randomly and I would pick up the phone and you would be there. Bill. Pretty exciting, wasn't it great? But do you wish do you

wish in a sense that Chez would come back and seize power somehow? We have? We have fancy mayors. We got you know, PG Purevoll smells great, and I'm thinking about that. Charlie was fancy back then, not really, he was a bowling bowling pin kind of a guy. He liked to drink beer, you know, and go to you know he did, I know it, just drink a little. But the track. You liked to be on the rail or wherever here they come, here they come. All right. Uh, well, let's talk about issue issue twenty two.

I've had on your good friend being on the rail speaking of being on the rail the rail. Was that a nice segue right there? Very nice, very nice. The I've had on Chris Smitherman several times and other supporters I know, And this is something where you have the far left and the far right kind of united. So I see a news conference with Tom Brinkman on the far right, along with the NAACP and one of the Mallories. I don't know which one. There's so many. They got the far left and

the far right together and then you got the middle. At this point, as the Chamber, can you make a one or two paragraph pitch as to why the arguments against this are wrong and why we should sell for one point six billion dollars a huge as set of the city. Yeah, I'm happy to do that. I mean, this is an important issue. I'm glad you're talking about it. I appreciate that you've had people on from both sides.

We don't do politics, but I think when you've got the far left on one end and the far right on the other end, you should listen to the great middle. And the great middle sees this very clearly, which this is a good deal for the Cincinnati taxpayer. We right now have a railroad where the only city in America that has a railroad, the only city in America that has a railroad because one hundred and fifty some years ago the forefather fathers of the city built this railroad, and now we have it.

There is one buyer, and they are willing to trade us for that railroad one point six billion dollars, which can be a diversified investment for the entire future of the city. And if somebody said to me, do I want to bet my future on one asset a railroad or one point six billion dollars which I can professionally invest, keep out of the hands of the politician and ensure that we have roads and bridges and parks and rec centers that are kept

up to date for the foreseeable future. I'm taking what the middle wants, which is this is a good deal to sell this railroad and people should vote yes for this. You know, look, if you had one stock in your retirement portfolio, if you opened up your bank account for your retirement, yours has probably got many many zeros in it. But if you opened up your bank account and you were totally invested in one thing, we would all

say you're nuts, You're totally nuts. Now we have an opportunity to build our future with a diversified, safe investment, and that's what that's why business leaders think this makes sense. All Chris Smitherman and others say, among the following things, there's no transparency, there were no meetings held. And secondly, this says worth a lot more money than one point six billion. How do we know that Penn Central won't give us two point five billion we're selling

it? Short answer the question about transparency. Then about the asset value, Well, first of all, let me do the asset value first. My dad was in sale for fifty years and he said something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it. And so consultants, railroad experts, banker experts who have been working for the city's Railroad Commission have valued this and said that the one point six billion dollars is a good deal. But

here's what's important, and people are not paying attention to this. It's not like somebody else randomly could come in and buy and use this line. Norfolk and Southern has almost permanent rights to be able to use this line for the foreseeable future because it's all tied up. And by the way, they're the only customer on the north end of the south end of it. It's not like you can just go sell it to somebody else who gets into it.

So the idea. It's amazing to me how many people in the Cincinnati area have suddenly become experts and railroad valuation. The reality is the railroad Board, including my good friend Paul Sylvester, who is a CFO and a CPA, and an auditor who has been on that board for forty years, Tim Reardon who is a city manager, two mayors Amy Murray who was a tremendous council member Republican on city council. They hired experts to go out and value this

and get a deal. And I know that folks on Twitter think that they can figure this out better than a whole lot of experts, but the reality is one point six billion dollars for an asset that only Norfolk Southern can buy and use is a great deal for the taxpayers. And thirdly, Brendan Call of the Chamber, I would also say this that one of the arguments being used against the sale is that the is that PG pierrival and others are going

to get their hands on the money. I head on your good friend Bill Sites about three or four days ago, and he put the legislation together to put guardrails as to how the money can be invested, how much money can be used here? How much money you got? Lou Blessing and Bill Sides rock ribbed Republicans members of the Rapan Society who worship at the feet of William F. Buckley, saying I support this because we're the ones that said what

they can do with it. So explain the argument, Well, peer of all is going to get the money, He's going to blow it on suits and ties, and somehow there's going to be nothing. Kind of give us the answer of that one. I mean, look, I'm standing with Bill Sites on this one one hundred percent. Because the Ohio legislature had the pass law to make sure that this transaction could happen. That was an important step and in their wisdom, and I mean that without any level of sarcasm.

Bill Sites and Blessing, as you talked about, they put very strict guardrails in here so that this can only be used for existing infrastructure. It's as strict as it comes. This is not a pet project fund. And the rules in terms of how much the city and the politicians are allowed to spend are very clear, and they're set in such a way that we won't be able to waste this money or spend it down or blow it on some grand

idea that somebody has. This is about the fact that we're an old city, and any city in America that's as old as us would want to have this kind of revenue stream be able to pour back into parks and pour back into bridges and roads. It's this is you know, we're a business organization.

We have three thousand members CFOs. I've been talking to CEOs who were, you know, studying the city's finances as part of the Futures Commission, and they're all looking at us saying this is a great deal, and how quickly can we get this pass because it makes sense for the taxpayer for the future of the city, and it's conservatively financed, and it's sustainable forever, and it's a diversified investment. I mean, those things altogether are enough.

But the but the you know, then you're driving around a city road and you bring it home and they're a mess. They're a mess. They're a mess, and we got to do a better job. Yeah, let's go back to the eighteen seventies. You might recall the first few years of the

Ulysses s Grand administration. He sees power in eighteen sixty eight until eighteen seventy six, and at that point the city fathers a Procter and Gamble and other manufacturing companies wanted to reopen commerce with the South that was on his back. It was devastated by the great victory of the Union Army against the Democrats in the South called the Confederates. And so they said, well, instead of relying upon whatever to get product from, get the soap down to Atlanta and

down to Tennessee. And all the railroads are obliterated, all the bridges are out. There was no building over twenty feet tall anywhere in the South. Let's buy a strip of land from Cincinnati to Chattanooga, and then we're going to have other branches out of Chattanooga. And for pennies on the dollar, they bought land which was about thirty feet wide across all these jurisdictions that couldn't

be done today. In a heartbeat, nobody could have done this. And all of a sudden, Procter and Gambles started selling soap in the South. And then I think about the Erie Canal, which was dug by hard working men. Yes, men dug the Erie Canal from Lake Erie a dollar way down to the Ohio River. And that's what Cincinnati did. We had the Cincinnati water Works, we had the Metropolitan Sara District, Blue Ash Airport,

we had all the golf courses. So for a long time, men harry s men looked ahead to the future and said, you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna have a city that'll be the shining city on the Hill described by Ronald Reagan. Now you can't do that anymore today. But one point six billion dollars is an extrement filled amount of money, and as long as Bill Site says, it is. When Bill Sites and Blessings said,

it's a good deal. I take the money and run because I don't know what they spent eight hundred million dollars Norfolk Southern when they blew up East Palestine. What if they blew up two more cities and they fouled bankruptcy and now it's nothing that's exactly right. Can you smell what I'm cooking? I worry about the Erie Canal, That's what I worry about. It's this is holding on to this for nostalgia purposes or because you don't trust someone at city Hall

is short sighted. This is a long term play the future of the city, and we need to think like our forefathers did, which is invest in the future of the city and up one point six billion dollars that we can conservatively invest and spend, which is what business leaders would say to do.

It's the right thing to do for the future of the city. We would It's like in some ways it is like a lottery ticket for an American city, because cities across the country are looking to be able to fix up their infrastructure, and we have the ability to do it if people vote yes on

twenty two. And that's why the Chambers for it. Imagine back in the eighteen eighties and nineties that there was commerce that had to happen between Illinois and Pennsylvania northern Ohio, and thousands of Harrys men with shovels dug a ditch that was twenty feet wide and twenty feet deep, and they flooded Lake Erie, brought down the canal which concluded in Central Parkway in Cincinnati and went down to the Higo River. Some products can get to Europe, and we did that.

We had big ideas, in big vision. We did great things like try to build a subway system, and in Cincinnati still exists. Chance took me down on the subway, but our rats and mice were running around. Hell. I thought I was at a Democratic convention, for God's sakes, and so I'm looking around at this subhodd Well. We thought big. But right now somebody wants to give us one point six billion. I take the money and run. What do you say? I agree, I take them,

take the money, invest in the future of the city. Do it wisely. It's protected from the politicians, and it's for our future. And Bill Site says to do it, and he's a rock ribbed Republican. Is that so? So what do you say to the NAACP. We're in the Chamber of Commerce. I mean, look this, we looked at this every single which way we've been for transportation investments. To Prince Spence Bridge, fixing

the breath, well, I think we call it. We're calling the Cunningham Bridge now the Prince Bens the Great American, Great American, we've been the Great American, actually, the Great American Bridge. It's a great name. And we've been working on this for a long time and this just makes sense. And I'll tell you there's no other viable solution to fix up the city's infrastructure. There's no other viable revenue stream. And you know what that means

we're talking about here. And I would much rather have this railroad turned into a permanent investment for the city's infrastructure future, protected from politicians pet projects, and allow it to be able to focus on the growth of the city rather than all of the other ways that we might be able to raise money. Hint, taxes, taxes, taxes. We have to focus on growing the city, and we have this opportunity to do it. It's to us to

the business community, this is very clearly a no brainer. All right, Brendan, call thank you on one day once again. I look forward to you being the chief of staff of Mayor Charlie Lucan, who will ruled for a thousand years at eight to one Plumb Street. The last time I go back together get the bands. It's like the Beatles, hell the Beatles. Here we are six years favorite together. For we were together earlier this week

for a press conference. You know about us being supportive of issue twenty two, and we said, look at us twenty years later. I'm at the chamber. He's working on this. We've worked together on a lot of things. He Charlie has been a great leader for this community. And I will tell you his commitment on the railroad, Mark Mallory's commitment on the railroad, Paul muting, Amy Murray, Paul Sylvester has been in the future for the future of the city. And I think that they deserve a lot of credit.

We should listen to them and support this. All right, God bless America. Brendan, call thank you very much. In one day you will rise again. Much like the Beatles releasing new music, I think today they're dropping their new music. Weird the Beatles are back sixty years later. I'm not for it. Yeah, it's weird, all right, Brendan call, thank you very much, give my best a chance, and may he rule for one thousand dollars. Thank you very much. Take care. Let's continue.

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nine out billion dollars. What America is a nation that can be defined in a single word. I was gonna foo him the idea that Los Angeles and uh and uh uh I what am I doing here? For two reasons one two, we haven't been able to communicate it in a way that is uh, make me say another way? But hello, hello, buiet, I'm I'm broadcasting segging. You voted for that guy? Correct? Because of his decisive intellect. No, I didn't you? Sure? Yeah, I'll be

careful taking off the headset. Be careful with this. But what trust? What you're going to trust? And Themac and Nemack, you're here to break it down. Welcome again to the Stude Report, this in the UC game and the MAC. How are we looking? Well, we're looking new, We're looking different, We're looking more international. We're looking a really strong freshman class. Can you name one? Say, can you name one Xavier player Zach Fremantle, he's not playing, but he's on the team. Can you

name one that's going to play? Sounds like Biden trying to answer a question. Does uh Bryant? Does Claude? That was a wide receiver? So Mac, what happened? Does that say? Everybody's doing? Everybody's got new players? You lost your top six to eight players? What is the starting lineup now? If you know well, I know that Sean Miller took three players with him to a big East media day at Madison Square Garden about ten days ago. Who'd he take? And it was does Claude, who's going

to be a sophomore in two years will be in the NBA? Did he play last year and strong and mean mean in that. What's his name, Claude as Claude, he was like this, yeah, Des Claude, he was the sixth man last year, played really well in February that like a foot condition. Thanks for paying attention to your alma mater. The guy only pay attention to the starters. The guy can play. Sue Le Boom sou Let Boom is no longer with us. He's gone on to play in Europe.

So what about David West? David West is Ronner's really a very profitable AAU program in North Carolina. He's rich too, He's got a lot of money. I think he saved his money from his cheap NBA corea. So now you mentioned one name, this Des Claude guy. Well, this guy

from Western Kentucky, Davion mcnheight, who's a left handed guard. I've watched him practice, I watched him play in a couple of gris So Hugo Green really good, not that good, but sy Hugo was a great star with the Duke Cane Dukes back in when Duke Kane was a basketball power in the nineteen Not so much anymore, not so much ever since they I don't know. They've just they've fallen over earth. And this guy Quincy Oliveri who is

Quincy alab time leading three point shooter in the history of rice. How much are you getting paid? I have no idea, Please continue, no idea, but nil money is flowing with ni L the transfer portal and all this other stuff. I think Sean Miller is assembly. They're going to be deeper, they're going to be faster, and we'll see if they're as effective. Can they shoot free throws? Heck yes, I think they're going to be a good free throw shoot. So I got the all time rise three point

shooter. Yeah, that must have cost of fortune. He made ninety six threes last year and only about ten guys in the whole division one made that much. I like that three better than what's his name used to be there, su Le Boom, who was a three point assassin. They just that just they left about a year or so ago. Brad Redford, Yeah, no, that was longer than that long ago, You fool. Don't you wish you were playing still at nil? How did would you make one hundred

thousand dollars? Who else is on the team? Well, they have the two freshmen that I think are going to fit into the rotation. Are this point guard from prepp Prolific Preps that sounds like a preparation age kind of.

That's a prep school in Napa where Paul Scruggs he played there. Paulus Scattering is really good, So you think he's gonna start right off the pack because in a freshman point guard, you know, you don't want to break the kids when he's not in the third game of the season to bring him off the bench. And the other guy from Columbus six seven reminds me, and I hate to make analogy, please don't he reminds me of James Posey six seven long athletics. Very give me the all time Xavier five from well,

all time Xavier starting five. Well, I West would have to be. He's a forward, though, isn't he. I mean they really Tyrone Hill. You gotta with Rozone. You gotta put Tyrone the King of the Hill. You gotta put David West. And I think how about Roman Sato pretty good talking about a three point shooter. That's him. Unbelieving you got Byron

Larkin and not I'm going lph. I gotta go with with Joe Sunder Joe Sunderman Baker, the man him out there on the high post you just passed, had that brace on his knee too, remember the good old days. The brace. He had a horrible knee entry, which show using a lot of grit and determination he overcame. Well, he could have been in the NBA, could have been somebody. Wow. He was invited to try out with the Boston Celtics, but he said he went on and Dave Collins,

Dave Cowens, and then about wrapping Ralph Lee. Ralph would be right up there among the pantheon of Xavier point guards, and also Jamal Jamal give and then Byron gotta have all Time leading. He'd be there. He'd be there. And don't forget JP mcura and Trayvon Blewet. We're about up to about forty guys. There you go a segment. How about you see all Time starting five? Now you I have no knowledge of that events you did their

games for a while. That was way back in the dark ages. Was my fortieth year was xavior, Either illegally or legally, you admit to that. I must admit. Say give me some sports and make it fast as

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out. Told on seventy five Mitchell Avenue, she got and fed people, correct, And how about that the road is now open, the expressways wighting and a lot of people are fed well because of Ron's Roost restaurant and barn. She laid it out on the hood of her car right and people showed up and there was some left, but enough for you to eat. Thirty eight to fifty three Race Road five one three, five seven four two two two. Uh. Let's see uh college. Speaking of college basketball, the

bear Cats are open up, but you against you. IIC on Monday Wes Miller Show tonight at eight oh five live for the original Montgomery In you I see is that University Illinois Chicago, right, going back, going back? Why are you leading with that? It's what are you doing? Hey? Still yelling? Second? Thank you? Shut up? Preview the Sunday night battle between the Bengals and Bills on the Roundtable show Lance and to Rock. Where's the Rock? He's here coming five from Long Netta here today. Yes,

I want to see him. Red's Update. Red utility man Spencer Steer is a Silver Slugger Award finalist. Batted two seventy one, led the Reds and most offensive categories including homers with twenty three. The winners are going to be announced next Thursday, November the ninth. The last Read to win a Silver Slugger was Brandon Phillips or Joey Vado outfielder Nick Castianos in twenty twenty one. Didn't play well at the end there with the Phillies. Now we also

Willy got to give out the boys. Ohio Boys Soccer Regional semi finals last night. Moler beat Centerville one nil. So Moler's one goal the entire year, Moler is twenty two to zero. Get him in the twenty first shutout of the season. Him. There's a new state record. As you said, one goal all season, the first match of the year, I think deer Park. I think Deer Parks, and the rest of it is clean sheets. Are they going to come in for the National They if they win

at all, they're in. Are they coming in here? I hope get him in here and then let's see. Oh and also, now that the baseball season is over, a decision has to be made coming up pretty soon on Joey Vado Bingo, Mac, what would you do with Joey Vardo? I would cut him loose, let him cash his seven million dollar check and then resign him for two or three, take the other ten million and thrown at some starting pitching, please, some experience, starting arting pitching. The

Reds were two games behind the Snakes. But Vado, he's got seven in the bank, don't pick up the twenty mil. Say we're gonna give me the seven and add three to it. We'll give you ten million dollars. And he's your DH against the right hand pitching, And and Carnassi on strand has got to be the first base. He's got he's gotta play, he's got to play, and man, he's got to be the third base. I move, I moved what about Della Cruz center field, center field,

great arm has trouble reaching for those balls. He's too tall, He's too tall, too tall, and congratulations will he to the Texas Rangers. They are the world champions. After beating the Diamondbacks last night five nothing. They go eleven to zero on the road in the postseason, including sweeping the d Backs and Phoenix to finish it off, sports kicks and fires. He's struck it out, looking it's over. It's over. The Rangers have won the

World Series. Ranger fans, you're not dreaming. The Rangers are the world serious champions. After fifty two years in Texas, sixty three years of the franchise. The weight is over and the celebration has begun. You know, Mac, You say records that will never be broken. How about eleven consecutive wins on the road by the Texas Rangers. That is it will never be broken. It can't be broken because you have the series. You have the three game series and the five game series, then the two back to back

seven game series. Is they played all the games on the road that could have played, and they were eleven and zero. They had no more games on the road to play. They won them all impossible. You know, the most amazing thing about the the Texas Rangers was that Oraldus Chapman actually got somebody out last night. He is really the fish around the middle, I'll tell you, but he's a lucky charm. He pitched well for the Cubs in that one World Series where they came from way behind, and he pitched

halfway decent for the Texas Rangers. Got out of Kansas City. He's got a great mansion. What Kansas City to Texas? Thank you? The Yankees kept resigning that guy. Why, I don't know, I don't know. Stupid, stupid. Bruce Bochy now is a six manager Willie all time with four or more World Series. So now with Texas winning, Colorado, Milwaukee, San Diego, Seattle, and Tampa Bay have not yet got the big trophies, five of the thirty correct and they're going to expand supposedly take two

more teams, possibly Charlotte, possibly Nashville. What about Portland? Pretty bad? They got riots and homelessness there. It's terrible. Portland stinks because of politics, it really stinks. And then the Oakland's going to go to Vegas. Right, it looks like it. They're going to vote in about three weeks. But Vegas, how are the Raiders doing? They just cleaned house yesterday. But the Golden Knights that they won the Stanley Cup. It's right,

you know, you know who does the Raiders games on radio? Bent must really how about that? Does the radio? And he sort of staked out in Vegas. He does the some kind of betting like twenty four hour Do I think he had some major like gambling debts that he's still repaying the big boys down there and taken't care of some Italian for a lifetime deal and doing that. Radio Sam Musburger terrible and Mac, what are your thoughts on

the General Robert Montgomery Knight? I listened last night to Lance McAllister. He played some of the interviews the trump Ster ahead with the General, et cetera, and there was a lot of good about him and a lot of bad. I remember the nineteen ninety three second round NCAA game at the Hoosier Home behavior against number one rated Indian. I'm interviewing Pete Gillen, what about the neutral court aspect of this game? Neutral? He goes, Yeah, real

neutral US against thirty eight thousand red sweaters. Yeah, and he laughed. Neutral could have beat them, should have beat them. The officiating the second half was terrible, brutal. Savior's got the lead the first seven fouls against Xavior, of course, and Gillan comes up to the edge of the coaching box, didn't say anything. The official came over like this, the team was coming together. Night was dancing into the Xavier huddle. He was threatening

the Xavier players. He was dancing. He was threatening them with physical violence. And as an exam a coach are uh Kentucky purpose that put two schools on probation. University of massachusettsis state and he's still coaching. You know, I really don't understand that. Well. All I know is that the general had a big upside and a large downside. And uh, I remember trying to find the cherry through where is this. Somebody's got the chair. We

don't know where it is. He's throwing the chair right now, a chair. Somebody got a chairing. It's all bad. Team picked up another team. Then he goes after the official for giving him a team. When he's thrown chairs, he's gone. He's gone. What an act? All right? Max? So you see nothing but bright days ahead for Xavier basketball. Well, I think the Big East is certainly underrated. Three national championships in the last eight years not banned you Con won it last year, Xavier beat

them twice. Really, Xavier's the national champion because they beat the national champion twice. Well, Marquette did also that all you don't bother me with facts. Con lost seven games last year. All of them were in the Big East. So the biggest undefeated against unscored on. Yes, terrible. And I think I think six or seven Big East teams are going to make the nc including Xavier. I'm sure. I think x will be right in there.

I think Miller will will preach is pack line defense and organize the Muskies wait till they get past the first of the year. Actually, yeah, turning, Yeah, it'll be December ninth at the Centa bear Cats. We got to have you preview that action too, Mac, we'll be will they let you in, Mac, Well, it'll be at Sentas Okay, Yeah, you're all right. I think I still get in. Yeah, no

one sits anywhere, do they don't. Don't you make you just walk around Like I went to a couple of games and Christopher said look me up. I try to look them up. All I did was walk around the whole time. I'm like a nomad these games because for the President, Colleen has me sit with her, and I say, I'll go sit with Colleen's doing a pretty good You've got your pregame thing that you do right and everything else. Yeah, we'll be up at Duff's about thirty minutes before tip off before

every game, and they'll be big little scouting report. Well, come back on December the ninth. Is that during the week, isn't It's a Saturday Saturday and on Friday, December of the eighth, you ought to come in here and break down the game. How about the MLS Cup When Cincinnati plays the Seattle Sounders for the MLS UP postseason championship is the same day? Really you believe that? Really? Wait a minute, that's at four o'clock. But dam must play at seven or eights. It's thirty. Gonna be quick

getting the shield on him. I'm a season ticket holder for FC. What do you do? Jeff Burning is on Steve speed dial? What am I supposed to do? Well? You can go to both. You got four o'clock games over at five thirty quarters. They've got a reserve spot over there at sentence or just pull right up. I'll definitely be there. Sit next to me, and my spot's right next to Greg Christopher's to shootout is my favorite day of the secondly lately with four straight wins, four straight? What

U see? Doesn't you know? Saving needs to upgrade their schedule by getting rid of UC. You need to. I was huggins argument back twenty years now, he was gonna dump Xavior because it wasn't com Now it's flipped. Now it's flipped total. Now come back on December the eighth. I will be here with you. That's your notes ready to go. I'll use these notes on that I haven't had a chance to really delve into it. I have great confidence that Sean Miller and his and his status nil they're paying the

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world's never been of all ball the whole on. Here we go once again with early voting tomorrow at noon. I have on Frank L. Rosa three four seven one one one about early voting. It looks as if something like seven hundred thousand Ohio WANs will early vote. Yours truly and the People's Judge were among those on Tuesday night. It was. It was easy to do. It got there about five thirty quarter of six, took about five or ten minutes total time. I spent time with some of the poll workers and

had some uh had a lot of good conversations and away we go. But so far, I want to give the results thus far of early voting of my listeners, which are generally absolutely correct, as you know. And at this point we've done it for two afternoons at two o'clock. You also may now participate. You may give me your vote on one, two or twenty

two, and then I record it. All I need from you is your first name and where you're calling from, and then thirdly your vote, and you may give us a twenty to thirty second reason as to why you're voting yes or no on State Issue one, Yes or no on State Issue two, Yes or no on issue twenty two. I just made a wager with the legendary Pete Whitty on issue twenty two. Here's the bet. I bet lunch at Price Hill, Chili. I say yes on twenty two, he says hell no on twenty two. He says, you can even get the

Rabbi at Price Sal Chile if you win. So we'll see what happens. Yes or no. Thus far state Issue one, we have a total of three yeses and eleven nos. It looks as if State Issue one should go down to an easy defeat. Based upon the callers to my show. Now at seven four nine seven thousand or pound seven hundred, this is your chance to vote. We have open lines as I speak. State Issue two is the marijuana the hippie lettuce, and thus far I have two no's and nine

yeses. That's a pretty good number. So it looks like State Issue two is gonna pass. Issue one look looks like it's going down on an issue twenty two the city. We have thus far eighteen yeses and nine knows, so it's rather interesting. Pound seven hundred. You may vote. Now. You must come on the air with me, which is an honor for anyone, and give me your vote, pick the issue you want, or vote on all three if you'd like, and then I'm going to record this,

likely do it on Tuesday, who knows, maybe even Monday. So we have a sense. So the first call will beat Dennis and then Bill seven four nine seven thousand, five one three seven four nine seven thousand now or pounds seven hundred to you may give me your vote, and then you have about twenty to thirty seconds to explain it. The flash poll is underway. Lastly, I don't want to twist things too much. One way or another.

But when you can't put the language into the constitutional amendment because by itself it would fail, and then you put in extraneous matters, that's a problem.

So by including a state issue one extraneous matters, which are completely non controversial medical procedures like miscarriage or both control pills in the text of the amendment, those who advocate for this are cynically seeking to create the impression that procedures like buying a condom or birth control pill is at legal risk if voters decline to enshrine abortion in the constitution. So let's go to the calls. This

is legendary. My callers have always predicted the actual outcome. We have full lines, of course, and the lines become open quickly because each caller is only given about twenty seconds. So stead Issue one at this point is going down hard, State Issue two at this point is passing, and State Issue three at this point is also passing. So give me your first name where you're calling from, and then your vote. Let's go to Tom and Cincinnati. Tom and Cincinnati, what issue do you want to vote on? If

any or all three, I'm here to vote on the trifecta. No no and no no on one, no on two, no on three? Why no? Let me pick one? Why no on two? The marijuana, because I don't think we should be subjecting anybody to another vice. We got enough of them already. And it's a it's a gateway drug to other drugs. It's been proven to be true. We ought to not be letting exposing kids to this, to this drug. It's bad enough. We got them

exposed to other things, all right. Now. One thing to consider, I'm watching one of the national shows that said that when marijuana recreationally is legalized, that the use of percocet, delauded and other heroin based legal and illegal drugs go down. Does that change your opinion at all? No? In fact, you got to call the governor of Colorado, who originally supported recreational marijuana, and all you gotta do is ask him, because now he's adamantly

opposed to it. He's saying he can't even keep people employed because they get drug tested and they got to send them home because they don't have enough people to work out there. They don't have poble to work anyway, right now, that's right. This only compounds the problem. I'm gonna give you a no, a no, and a no. Thank you for your call. Let's continue now with Dennis and Cincinnati. Then Ed. Dennis, go ahead, give me a full report on which of the ballot initiatives you went to

early vote. I want no on all three. I write this down. No, no. Now let's take issue twenty two. Why are you saying no on selling the railroad for one point six billion dollar? Because all in my past experience, most politicians are all crooked, correct, and when they get money, they just go hog wild, they get more crooked. That's right, all right, we take you straight as a hind leg of an

animal. Let's continue now. We'll go to Ed and Martinsville, and then Bill and Mike and John, Jennifer and Sweet Lips and many others in Helen. But we'll go to Ed in Martinsville and Ed. Where is Martinsville by the way, just about tim Mills south of Wilmington. That's God's culture. That's where Bob that's God's country. That's where Bobby Henderson has his golf course. But anyway, give me your votes on one two and you can only vote on twenty two. I'm sorry. One and two and not twenty two.

But if you want to vote in all three, you can certainly do it. I'll just say no and yes. So you say no on state issue one, which I got a good reason from one on that one, yes, I'll give you a yes on two, the marijuana. Let's go with state issue one. Why are you going to vote no on state issue one? Which is abortion on demand through birth? And maybe past that they called it's murder? Now you know, God's God's the one that gives life, you know, and he's the one that has to be the one that

takes it. Well, me, it's not our right to kill a baby? And ed, is that a cyst? Is it a tumor? Is it some unnatural growth? Is is that thing a callous or? Is it a living human being? And I think a mother being? To me? To me, I don't know how. You know, there's a large industry a plant planned parent is a multi billion dollar industry. And so to them, they want to convince women that killing your unborn, healthy baby is a

good thing. And uh, well they're going to answer to it. One day they will come in front of God and they'll have to answer to it. The murder's murder, no matter what. And lastly, on that issue, I'd say this, in my life, in your life, you've never voted yes or no in killing the unborn. You've never you've voted indirectly with

a politician. God knows what they're going to do. But for the first time in Ohio history, a person is going to show up at the ballot box and and and fill in the blank yes or no on killing unborn babies. And you will answer for that vote in this world or the next and whatever it is it is. And I can't tell you how many women have sent me emails saying I had an abortion three years ago. And every time now that I see a three year old, I wonder how my little baby

boy would have been if I if I hadn't killed him. And I don't know how. I don't know how you look at an innocent baby and say, you know what we gotta we got to kill that baby, got to do it. And all they got, all they can do too is this. You know, everybody makes mistakes in their life, you know, well, so Jesus Christ is the only answer, and they have to ask him

for forgiveness and forgiven their sins and repent from it. Ed. I would say this that if a woman gets uh, gets carried away and has unprotected sex when she shouldn't, there's always the the plan B two to four days afterwards. So that's a different issue. But killing unborn, healthy babies is is not good. I fact, it's awful. Let's continue with more. I go to Bill and Cincinnati, then Mike and Mount Orr. We got John and Milford the Home of the Eagles, and Ken Mybers and Bruce Little

John, then Helen and Lovelin and many others. Bill and Cincinnati, give me your vote on issue one. Absolutely not. I think if that thing were to pass, Bill, I think the entire world will look at Ohio and say, what the hell? And by the way, well where did right to life begin? Well with the whole organization began here in the nineteen seventies with doctor Wilke and his wife Barbara. They started it, and here we are fifty years later. According to the polls, we're going to okay

abortion on demand through birth. Can't believe all what about issues and the whole parental consent thing's crazy. Bill, Here's what we gotta do. We got to vote this thing down, and then we've got to find a compromise around twenty weeks. Rate incess life of the mother, that's all cool, but you know the financial health of the mother, that's all malwarkey. So absolutely no on one. All right, We're going to accept that vote right there. Now, we're going to go to Mike and Mount Orb and then Helen

in Loveland, the Home of the Tigers. Mike and Mount Orb, give me your early vote. Okay. I say no on one, No one two there, and yes on three. Why don't you give you my reason for no on one? Give me the No one one? Okay. Jeremiah one, verse five says I knew you before you were formed. In my view, that means that God knew us before we were born, which means that we're a person. Our spirit is alive with God. He chose to bring us into life and human form. That's his choice. It's not our

decision to end that life. I think I couldn't have said it better myself. We'll see what happens. Let's continue. We have Helen in Lovelin seven four nine, seven thousand, and then John and Milford the Home of the Eagles. Helen, give me a full report. Give me your early vote on one and two, yes and yes. Let me write this down. In the background, I'm hearing something there. Yes, I wish I could spend more time with her or we had too much feedback. She says yes

on one and yes on two. By the way, the polling indicates that Helen is likely to win according to polling. Whatever that means. Let's go to John and Milford. Got time for two or three more than Alisha in Middletown. John and Milford, the home of the Eagles. Give me your vote, Give me your early vote. John, Yes, yes, no, yes, yes, So you got yes on one, You got yes on two, which is marijuana, got no on one. We're going to

record those for the annals of history. Now let's go to Alisha in Middletown, the home of seg Man Dennison. Alisha in Middletown, give me your early vote. No, no, yes and no? No, yes and no good no? All right. Now, let me ask you this. On number two with marijuana, you said no. Why do you say no? No? You said yes? Did you say yes or no on marijuana? I said no, Okay, that's what I thought. Tell me why I've been in the medical field for thirty years, and it's just not a

good thing. I've seen where it leads, I've seen what actions people take when they're on it. And it's a drug just like any other drug, all right. The idea of the state getting involved and making money off of it, the idea of controlling the product itself so that the ingredients are wholesome, and sometimes there's ventanel and other things put in an illegal marijuana. That doesn't persuade you overall to the general thing. No, it doesn't. All

right, thank you for your call. Here we go at this point and this recent round of early voting on State Issue one, we had six no's and three yeses. On State Issue two, which is the marijuana, treating it like alcohol, we had five yeses and four no's, somewhat close. Then on steate Issue I'm sorry, City Issue twenty two, which is sailing the railroad for one point six billion dollars, it was three no's, I'm

sorry, four no's and three yeses. You put it all together. At this point, stead Issue number one is going down hard like a cold butt on a hot July afternoon. State Issue two continues to be much closer, but it's a yes vote and City Issue number twenty two began razor thin, It's stays razor thin. Right now, it's eighteen yeses and sixteen no's more voting to follow. My guess tomorrow at noon, by the way, is

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visit. H I M S dot com slash r A d I O. Warnie Brennaman for help home services syndicated in a way that is, let me say another way with the nature not a solid meeting with with UH. The They make a very good point. Here's the deal. Here's what drives the driver in the states that are affected. Here's what that you can do the

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fifty nine billion dollars left. America is a nation that can be defined in a single word. I was gonna foot him. Hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting roll. Can you imagine if a Republican had this lack of mental acuity, Well, the media would do impeach, first story, front page, the whole deal. Yeah, mentally at amendment, get him out of there, like Trump was like fo overweight, he's unfit, he can he's gonna die. Don't We're in trouble. Don't, don't what but you want to

change the ad? Don't hear no? I eat no for breakfast. No one wants to get rid of bid. This is the reason was very very smart in what can be unburdened by what has been about that. Now, rocket, you're avoiding the obvious. Moved past that. Yeah, we've moved past that. I want to talk about it. But Michigan, the coaches

last night had a big call. They asked that the Hollball leave the arena area and they wanted to talk to the commissioner about what to do with a cheating program like Michigan, and they had the records out of the three years before they started cheating, they were like fifty to fifty in the Big Ten, losing a penn state. After he started to cheat, they did much better, only lost like two games. The titles have won the scholarship money all by cheating. Wolverines or cheater. Now, what do you do?

Is the commissioner of the drag show at Notre Dame, because Michigan now is running a renegade program, like much like the use of astros with the pounding of the drums. Crime, Yeah, what's his crime? The tough part is there's gonna be have to be a lengthy investigation, right so that the season is gonna be done and gone. So then what are you gonna do? And by the way, I think Michigan in my opinion, has the

best team in college football. Vacate regardless of signs and all that. They got seven fifteen to seventeen guys that are gonna get drafted here and va kate, vacate all wins. That's what you're gonna do. Bait, What about about the kids? They didn't they in on this, but they were in the deal because they executed the game, and they were, you know, sitting there advocating for it. They just do it. The coach tells them

they should have beat on the on the garbage cans like Houston did. Tell the segment what happened with Michigan that you examined the past couple of years.

So what when people started really getting fishy about the whole thing is an offense would come out in a formation like say it's third and one, but and they're just gonna say, hell, they're gonna throw some reverse double pass down the field, and Michigan would be in like cover two right, like which you would only be in if you were expecting a pass, a pass or a gadget play. Right. If you it was third and one, you'd play cover three. You bring an eight man box and you the nickel plus

one. So that's what started putting people's antennas up is they're like, wait, in a million years, why would you be in this call unless you knew what the hell we were gonna run. And the players knew this because they were let's say it was the third and twenty and they were gonna have a draw play like Buck twenty five, twenty five bucks hot Mississippi, Alabama, New Orleans, oh Now instead of being in a pass defense third and twenty five, they were playing for a run up to middle and they did

run up. But she would only be able to explain Hi State would have beaten Michigan the last two years. I don't know about that, because, as I said, Michigan still come down to players cheatingh and cheatah. They have recruited well and cheating and CHEATADH and and I mean the players as well. They don't know how those how the coaches got the signals or whatever.

And if it happens during the game, you know, if you're the middle of every player and you think every player on the team knows that there was something elaborate, sister with some guy named Connor whatever his name is, shouldn't know. If you're the middle linebacker for Michigan and it's third and one and you get in your head set they had cover two, you would say, no, what the I don't think a college kid would I think he'd played

with They're not too smart anyway, go to Michigan. You're up very smart. By the way, all this could be solved. We have the technology. It's been in the NFL since like the nineties with the radio and the helmet. Yeah, but but like they don't have the money to do that.

My opinion is because it happens all the time, right the coaches come out and say every every all scene, boy, we need to get radios in the helmet and this and that, okay, or the athletic directors say all that, and then they leave that public meeting and they go to a team like Michigan or other very good schools they go to, especially the good teams don't say, hey, you know what, let's forget all this nonsense,

let's go to radios and helmets. Because some teams say that that's our advantage is because we're but we've got a whole system of doing this where you don't. Well, that's why it doesn't exist. But it needs to happen. I think it'll happen here. Let's me give you for next out of the Detroit Free Press. Collectively, the coaches want the Big ten to act right now and act decisively on the cheating by Michigan. And now you got

your friend. Urban Meyer has been offered one hundred million dollars to coach Michigan State Urban Meyer. That's some good strip clubs and ipster Canada sayest me easy. Well, I'm just saying he's your guy, right, yes, and he goes strip clubs, right? How do you know club? No, thank you, Rock. I'm just about to say I had to do it one time. I didn't like it. He didn't like it at all. I didn't like it at all. What crime? Yeah, I'm just saying, you know, I had to do it. I didn't want to because

the campers baseball haven't wanted some leadership. But where to go some leadership? I told you were the tour you were the tourist director. Don't drag you in. I had to go. I was kidnapped that night. I was I was bound, gagged and like soomore ways than one. But then when you walked in, the guy that rode the place, Hey, Willie, how you doing out? Yeah? Yeah? Even what explanation the Cincinnati something comment on what they're doing. They're changing something that you should talk to them

about. You can't. You can't punish the players. I don't think they knew of some elaborates. Again, the alleged system where they're sending people within the organization who are not identified to future game sites and having them collect signs with their cell phones, pumping it into an AI algorithm. You think players knew all that was absolutely AI did it because you can take a hundred calls. By the way, is there anything written out about AI you can't use

that? I don't think so. Technology is way way above the way ahead of the rules. Are they cheaters? I don't know. I have to look at the investigation. You're making too much sense. No, you're trying to do You think we should just jump the conclusions? Fire everybody. Tom Waveman is a is a stooge? Drew believer? Yes, thank you, you said do more of it. Yes, but the U s the Bengals

would cheat more. Okay, they need that guy. Yeah. The good that they need that guy on the sideline, that he was pretty smart, really good, really good, get him on the sidelines. Well, Harball survive? How many I would wonder how many other schools out there are stealing signs? I bet, I mean every way every team is trying to steal

signs during the game. If you're not, you're you're flat stupid. But how many teams are going to the lengths of allegedly Michigan went to violating by the way, it's it's so dumb, like like they bought the seats to the future games like on like a Michigan. That's a stupid Yeah you change your name. You don't because they could just go, oh, okay, this person look it up in the in the seats that they were given and will call a year or two ago and had a city in surveillance coup.

Yep is. They're stupid. They're cheaters, and they're stupid. It's what you're alleged, alleged that won't They are alleged. At least they don't have shrag queens shows and credit in Michigan, only a Notre Dame. We go again. I knew it was help me out here. I just start reading the damned sports so we can run the clue taking the class. Would you have taken the one hour credit? Would you have been a guest lecturer?

Hell no? Were you there at all for any of this? I mean none of this was a blonde, redhead or brunette ginger, you would have flipped and off. Amazing how things change in twenty years. It's amazing. God. And there's a Hamas chapter at Notre Dame. Think about what could happen in Ohio. Uh, come election day. I think if you told me ten years ago that pot would be illegal would be legal in Ohio, I'd say you're crazy, absolutely not. But I bet you passes. I

said to Mike Dwine in a telephone call. I said, Mike, you're the governor. You win by twenty five percentage points, but during your term, you're going to have partial birth abortion on demand and marijuana sold on street corners. Then said some funny stuff. What do you say to you when you say that shut up? I'm saying, well, that's your COVID birth abortion shutting down Ohio businesses hot. Yeah, Hi. At some point the foolishness has got to stop. Thank you. I need Mike. Then we

got the railroad. Then what about the railroad thing? Deeply disappointed at where we are tonight by the way, your flip flopping on the railroad thing? Do you yeah? Where do you stand on him? Yeah? Decided yet? Yeah, and decide. I wait till Tuesday. I got to get all the information. We laid it out pretty good the other day. Total crap, Joe Dieter says, total justice. Joe's that hit that again?

Who's justice Joe? Does Joe Dieters stand on issue twenty two? Joe Dieters, excellency, Well, we'll see what happens, won't we the who's that voice? Who is that guy? I don't know? Kind of like Marty Brown? And we burn that bridge just really keep starving aout him and a known gorilla here in Cincinnati. So therefore Joe doesn't call the show anymore.

Joe still is embarrassing that he killed the gorilla, and he thought it was a good idea at the time, but now animal rights activists are not not happy that Harambe is dead and Joe is on the Supreme Court on the body of Harambe. Wait a minute, that was Fiona drop it in its eager to shoot him too? Might that might be beg But ye oh, Joe is not happy. How dare you genderize that hippoto? Yeah? Could be transgender. There's Tucker right there. You got Tucker and Bbmass thirteen tons of

fun coming at you right there. Baby, who wins Tucker? Who wins Arambe v? Tucker? You hear it? There's Frintz Now now you're bringing the kids in. It getting weird. It's a tough matchup. Fritz is no longer a kid. I mean time has passed for that's true. It's like grown by now. Isn't it gotta be a good in in a lake? Or is it on ground? I mean, I still think a hippo

would beat pretty much anything on the world's soil. If a rambe got on the back of a hippo, the hippo would What do you bite though there's nothing? What do you what do you bite? Fat? Thing's like thirty five pounds, run like, yeah, we're on like thirty miles per hours. Yeah, I'm going So Joe Dieters would not kill Harambe. Who Joe Dieters would he kill Fiona? I don't think so. Who friends Joe Dieters? Joe Dieters. What's that name from? He used to be somebody?

Well he the students reporters of Proud service of your local Thamestar. He didn't get air conditioning dealers Thamestar quality you could feel in Cincinnati called Stacey Heating get air solutions five one three, three six seven h E A T. We got seven thousand more migrants coming out of Guadalajara. You ought to see walking in holding hands, seg we gotta go. They stop the Cuban immigrants from coming because they would no vote Republican. Only the Democrats are coming. No

Cubans vote Republicans. They can't. They can't get in. They know what real communism is like. And I'm here to help. Thank you, Ronald. There's the man right there. Roc. Well, this will be brought up again tomorrow, but I assume you'll be gone. Yes, get ready for the round table tonight, Rock good luck. They're gassing at the helicopter Lance. There you go, gotta go to the airport and listen to Lance. Last night had good shows about Robert Montgomery. Night Last About Time had

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