11-13-23 Bill Cunningham Show

Eighteen out of twenty two previously to the Jet Cardinals, and sheets from thirty eight yards away from the left hash to win the game for the Texans. The snap, the swing of the right leg, the kick is up, and the kick is good. The clock hit zero and the Texans celebrates. They have defeated the Bengals by the final score of thirty to twenty seven. Now I have Billy Cunningham, the Great American the debacle yesterday and the fallout

continues. Later on, we have brad Winstrip, Moegar's good friend, who's the US Congressman. Moeger will respond to that appropriately. Later on, we have an expert guest at two o'clock who says that it's possible for a six month old baby to be a racist, and you must you must have an anti racist baby. Moegar. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And can I first give you my opening remarks? Of course, it's your show.

You do whatever you want. Hostechxon's I think had a quarterback yesterday playing named Warren Moon and it was handing off to Earl Campbell. I kind of look at the statistics here, how about five hundred and forty five yards a total offense for Houston Texans. How about C. J. Stroud, who was taken second in the draft, not first because there was questions about him. Throws for about three hundred and fifty yards. It's twenty three of forty.

The QBR had to be over four hundred and ten. And then you have Earl Campbell, also known as this singletary dude, rushing for one hundred and fifty yards one hundred and eighty eight yards overall. And the Bengals now find themselves in last place, firmly affixed. Watching some of the morning talk shows, it appears that it's going to be Armageddon on Thursday night. Only

one team will survive. Of course, the Ravens are still in first place, and if they lose, there are much better shape than the Bengals. And right now they're five and four, which is what they were the last two years. You may know that, but this year it just feels differently. You have a Pits team that's six and three that looks terrible on paper, but they keep winning football games. You got the bult you got the

Cleveland Brownies. They look terrible, except they're also six and three, and they got a much easier schedule that the Bengals are playing every team from the eighty five Bears through the five Patriots. They have to win basically six of the next eight. Moe, tell me why I should have hope. Tell me why I'm not in despair. Tell me Joe Burrow has not been bengalized. Go well, So, to me, yesterday was about three things.

The first thing yesterday it was about the Houston Texans. You know, if I'm looking at this from a more objective perspective where I'm not focusing so much on the team that lost, the takeaway for me was CJ. Stroud is the guy. And I know you know he threw the pick late in the

game. It was just his second this year. There's nothing better. And we know this feeling here, Willy, as an NFL fan, there's nothing better than feeling like, you know what, we got our guy, Because once you got your guy at quarterback, it's not easy, but it's a lot easier to fill in around him than if you don't have a guy. So to me, the way that they move the ball, Devin Singletary comes off the street. He was terrific. But more than anything, it was

about a Texans team that is going in the right direction. That's number one. Number two, this is a reason to not feel despair what the Bengals did yesterday to themselves. There were a lot of sort of outlary things. Joe Burrow made some uncharacteristic mistakes. I count on Joe to not repeat those mistakes. Tyler Boyd drops a pass in the end zone that if he catches, chances are we're talking about a terrific Bengals comeback victory. And we're excited

about Thursday playing a Baltimore team than just lost. If they're in a similar position on Thursday and Tyler Boyd's open, his track record suggests I should trust him to catch that football. I also feel like there's a track record with lou An Arumo's defense. Look late in the game, it's twenty seven. All get off the field, let's go to overtime and win. They couldn't do it. That felt somewhat outlary to me, although we have to revisit

that here in a second. I think the third thing that yesterday was about, though, was math. At five and four, you can't go five and five if you want to win the division. Now you have to win this game on Thursday. If you lose on Thursday, you're going to lose a game against Baltimore in the standings. You're gonna lose a game against either

Cleveland or Pittsburgh in the standings. Yesterday to me was also about, is that a game that we revisit, a winnable game at home in which you were nearly a touchdown favorite and you mount this awesome comeback late in the season. Do the Bengals lose a playoff berth by a game? Do the Bengals lose playoff positioning by a game and maybe have to go on the road in

the playoffs and play somebody? Or had they won that game yesterday they're playing at Pey Corps Stadium, do they miss out on a division title by the narrowest of margins? And do we go back and look at that game yesterday that was so winnable and go God, had that game against Houston gone any better, maybe this team would be sitting atop the AFC North that game.

To me, let's re visit it later, because from a pure football perspective, if what we saw yesterday becomes the norm with Joe making all sorts of mistakes and the Bengals not able to execute critically down the stretch in lou Anarumo's defense, bending too much, then yesterday becomes the turning point. But I prefer to say, look, we saw some outliery things. This team's going

to be okay. Big picture, they have more than a puncher's chance to beat Baltimore, and they may and if they do, we're gonna feel a lot better. But by the time they've played seventeen games, how much do we go back and look at what happened against the Texans and wonder how they're positioning, how their season could have ended differently had they won that football game. We spoke a few days ago. Houston was hosting the Bearcats and Cincinnati

was Hope hosting Houston. Here, when I look at some of the statistics, you deal with the poetry. I deal with the facts. Four sacks of Joe Burrow, including being hit nine times. That's about thirteen times he was running for his life. There was some play call near the end of the game and which Joe Burrow appeared to have called or called in his helmet,

so to speak, a quarterback draw. And I'm thinking, no, wait a minute, you're like on the ten yard line and you got a quarterback draw, and you have Joe Burrow about to get his head taken off by the Houston defense. An offensive line that's costing about a billion dollars, allowing thirteen occasions when he was hit or sacked, plus the number of times he had to rush the ball, that's a problem. And so offensive line for the Texans did better as opposed to ours. The quarterback, believe it

or not, did better as opposed to ours. Overall, the defense for the Bengals gave up five hundred and forty five yards, which is unbelievable. They were terrible. There were wide receivers running loose in the secondary constantly, you have a situation where on offensis. In general, the eye test gave me the idea that the Bengals are playing a better team, and it just

looked like the eye test, the Texans were much better. And on top of that, the fact that Mike Tomblin and Pittsburgh somehow found a way to win. The Bengals are a much better ball club than the Pittsburgh Steelers. I think the Bengals are a better ball club than the Cleveland Browns, although they always beat them. Do you agree with my math that at the next eight games is Ford home, four in the road, that Ben Galley's must go at a minimum six and two against a death schedule to get to the

wild card, assuming they win or lose on Thursday. Well, I don't know. Six and two would mean they finished with eleven wins. Now, I think you're going to have to win eleven games to win the AFC North. I don't think eleven wins. You know, remember we have one more wildcard team per conference. I don't think eleven wins is going to be required to get the seven seed. Now. You know. Look, let's say the Texans catch fire and the Bengals and Texans have the same record and they're

both fighting for the last seed in the AFC Wildcard pitcher. Well, then Houston's going to win the head to head tiebreaker. We'll see how that unfolds. I think if they five, if they win five more games the rest of the way, they're going to be okay and at least be a playoff team. But let's be honest, Simply making the playoffs this year wasn't the

idea. The idea was to win a Championship. We all said at the end of last season, don't want to have to go back to Arrowhead Stadium in play, don't want to play the AFC Championship game on the road. Don't want to have to go and try to win all these road games they've been so good at winning. Let's play some more playoff games at home. Well, the chances of that happening the more you lose, obviously, the decrease. I think the big thing for me is and the offensive line is

complicit in this. Obviously, the Bengals have been really good at scoring on their first touchdown drive, or scoring on their first drive, scoring a touchdown on the first drive, and they've done a good job scoring on their second drive, and then they go to sleep offensively yesterday five consecutive punts, and then they pick things back up late in the game. Now again, some teams that can work. It almost worked against the Texans yesterday. It worked

to a degree, I guess against the Buffalo Bills. But in the sort of games that we want this team to win, is that gonna work on Thursday? Where you just go into these long, prolonged stretches where you're not even moving the football, much less scoring points. I don't think the answer is yes. And this has now been this has been something that is I think offensively kind of dominated much of the season. They come out hot and then they go to sleep for way too long. Not good. That can't

be the norm. Unfortunately it's becoming the norm. Well, here we said broken hearted, and I'm thinking, Okay, bengaled and must arise like a mighty tsunami in difficult circumstances. I think they're gonna be favored and to lose only in about two of the remaining games. I guess in Kansas City as the line out. Yet on Thursday night with Baltimore, I would assume they're a couple of three point underdog. Yeah. The last I looked, and I'm pulling it up right now, I saw last night it was it was

five. The Bengals were underdogs. Those thing things tend to move. We've seen a lot of movement. Right now, I'm looking at Baltimore. Baltimore is laying four points, four points, and that might have been what I saw last night. Baltimore is laying four points. O. T. Higgins don't know about him, likely not if he couldn't play on Sunday. I don't think ninety six hours later he's gonna but that'd be great if he came

back. Tyler Board is inconsolable. And the one to pay attention to is Trey Hendrickson, who on the last play from scrimmage obviously you know, hit the deck. Ian Rapaport of NFL Network this morning said it's a hyper extended knee. So there's good news there. We're not talking about a tear or an ACL tear or anything like that. It feels like the kind of injury that he's gonna be able to come back from. But can he come back

in time to play on Thursday? You know, you just saw what this defense look like without Sam Hubbard. What if you have to play against Lamar Jackson without Trey Hendrickson and Sam Hubbard this game on Thursday. If I would have said yesterday morning, Willie, the Bengals are gonna split their next two. Now, you would have said, okay, that means they win right against Houston lose to Baltimore, said okay, well, okay, that can work. Now you've got to win this game on Thursday against the Raven.

It's a death match from the Bengal perspective, I think Baltimore, they're seven and three. They can lose and me seven and four and keep going. Looking at the future schedule, the Bengals have a terrible future schedule as opposed to Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Baltimore. It's terrible, and they're gonna have to play at the highest level. They're gonna be played like they played against the

Buffalo. They're gonna have to play at the highest level imaginable to win six of the next eight, to win at Baltimore, to win at Kansas City, those are not easy. And then also you have Pittsburgh. They got to win at Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh's here for some reason. Pittsburgh's always had the Bengals number. How they're doing it this year six and three is beyond me. I mean, they're terrible, except they must have the greatest coach

in the history. I thought Chuck Nole was good, but I tend to think Mike Tomlin might be better because he, I mean, Chuck Nole did it with all time greats. And talk about the defense of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Who knows who those guys are? And basically he's got them playing good and it's unbelievable. Can you tell me again why Joe Burrow did a quarterback drawl at the end of the game. Can you tell me that. I can't. It had to be something that he saw. But you're right in

talking about the math. If they lose this game on Thursday, you know, just again do the math. They're five and five, Baltimore will be sitting there with eight wins, and they will have beaten you twice, which means they win the head to head tiebreakers. So just call it what it is. If they lose on Thursday, we're talking about the Bengals making the playoffs as a wild card team, which means you're playing on the road in

Round one. If you lose on Thursday, you're going to lose not only a game to the Baltimore Ravens, but you're sitting a game behind Pittsburgh in Cleveland. One of those teams is going to win because they play against each

other. So if you lose this game on Thursday, all right, not only are you three games behind Baltimore in the win column and we'll have lost the head to head tiebreaker, you're going to be two games behind the second place team of the division and still a game behind the third place team of the division and sitting there at five and five. What you didn't want to do was create a scenario where winning in Baltimore was a must and unfortunately because

they lost yesterday. If you're harboring hopes that the Bengals are going to win the division now they have to go to Baltimore and win on Thursday, and perhaps do it without their top two defensive lineman, well, the best place for the Bengals to be in the fourth quarter of Thursday night is fourteen points down. If somehow the Bengals could be fourteen points down, guess what, They're going to win the game because Baltimore stinks at the end of the game.

That is ridiculous, utterly ridiculous. Well, yeah, I think there's two things about the game yesterday. Don't ignore the fact that the Ravens scored thirty one points on a terrific Cleveland defense. Also, don't ignore the fact, and this is scary, Deshaun Watson was really really good in the fourth quarter of yesterday's game. That's a Browns team. Say what you want about not having Nick Chubb. The weirdness of the quarterback situation. They're a half

game out of first place. They have a head to head victory against Baltimore. They split the season series. And what did we all say after that first game, the boy the Browns, they're just a bad matchup for the Bengals. Well, guess who the Bengals have to play Week eighteen. They have to play the Cleveland Browns. So you know, the Ravens did fall apart in the fourth quarter yesterday. I sort of made similar to yesterday's game

here in Cincinnati. I kind of made what happened in the fourth quarter in Baltimore more about the Browns than the Baltimore Ravens. Regardless, you still have to play against the Lamar Jackson. You still have to play against the Baltimore team. Even when they were beaten up last year playing without Lamar. Heck, they nearly won that playoff game played in Cincinnati. They were the better team when they played Week two. They're playing on a short week at home,

coming off a loss. This is going to be a formidable challenge. If the Bengals clear it, I think we're gonna go. You know what, all things good here. We're six and four now, the season can take off, lose this one on Thursday, and again we're talking about the Bengals in relation to the team's chasing a wild card spot and the Bengals this year, about halfway through the season, they won a total of one game against an AFC opponent. One time. They've beaten the AFC halfway through,

which is really almost unbelievable. All right, Mo, we gotta go, but dark days lie ahead. I'm not optimistic about this thing. I worry about Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor becoming bengalized. They just have that vacant look in their eye. When Joe was on the bench looking at I guess looking at his iPad, whatever he's looking at, he had that far distant look in his eye, thinking what the hell's going on? The quarterback drawl didn't work, and I'm thinking, but as he almost brought his team by me.

Look, Joe wasn't great yesterday, but no, he throws a touchdown past the Tyler boyd that if he catches it. The story today is about how clutch Joe Burrow was, how Cam Taylor Britt made an interception that turned the game around, on how the Bengals figured out away at the end. And you hate to make it about one play, but Tyler Boyd, who's very reliable, very shorthanded, he catches that pass. That the story is

different. Nobody's talking about Joe being bengalized. Unfortunately he didn't. And now what comes to the forefront are all the things that led to the loss, all those terrible memories of a ghost. I mean, they're just kind of seeping in the back. I hear the distant thunder and lightning and dark clouds. They're kind of forming over Ellesmere and I just sensed it. I can just feel it, you know. And I hope that's not the case. But I would have caught that ball. Mo. You put me on the

field at the goal line, I would have caught that pass. Now I don't have any doubt. Now here's my question for you, changing topics, very very slightly, go ahead, your beloved Xavier Musketeers. Tonight opportunity to play a team ranked in the top three of both major polls. Did you even know that game was taking place tonight? Let's take a short break, and moeh, I want to thank you for coming on again. And I got my comments about Israel coming up? Do you want to weigh in on

Israel? I won't weigh in on Xavier if you don't weigh in on Israel I fudge Sunday. I'll take Sean Miller. You take Matt Paynter, hot fudge Sunday. What do you think? How many points? How many points? Well, now you're gonna make me look this up. Aren't you give me points? I need points. I'm like a democrat and I need some unfair advantage. Give me the point Savior is getting a Xavier is getting seventeen and a half points tonight. I'll take it. In fact, I'll bet

you too. I get seventeen and a half points and Sean Miller for a hot fudge Sunday. I'm not in tomorrow because I'm doing my show at the Morelin Logger House. I'm in on Wednesday. I get Xavier. Tonight, I got Xavior. I got Xavior. I'm Xavier. I got just a minute ago you wanted nothing to do with him, and then I tell you to and a half. I'll take the points, all right, I'll take Purdue, all right, produce no good all there, bunch of engineers,

a bunch of bunch of skinny white guys with Harry legs. I'm taking Xavier plus the points. Write that down, Tony Bell, write that done to produe that I could have. Yes, I was a pencil neck geek with a ruler and my front pocket and a pencil behind my ear. All right, Mo, thank you very much for your analysis. Joe Burrow is not yet Bengalized. Okay, see you Willie thank him. Oh all right, let's continue. Moe didn't want to talk about Israel, but I will on

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coming up at one six today is the great Congressman brad Winstrip. We've been blessed to have back to back congressman like Rob Portman, and now we have the Great brad Weinstrip and others. Jeanie Schmidt did a pretty damn good job also in my humble opinion, But nonetheless, he announced on Thursday he was giving up his seat. It's a very safe Republican seat. He generally gets about seventy percent of the vote. He retired from the military about six months

ago as a colonel. He's been a doctor for about thirty five years. And of course he's a congressman, a father, and a husband. He's got two kids under the age of ten, so Heed, he says, spend time with them and his wife. You know, I get completely So I'm not going to do exactly an exit interview with him in about twenty minutes because he has another thirteen or fourteen months to go. He's not quitting now.

He's simply, he's not going to run for reelection next year. The primary sometime like in the middle of March, so he wanted to give any potential candidates four or five months to get their act together to file in that district, which is Claremont County east of that and a little bit north of that, and so be it. I wish him well. And Politico dot Com did a ranking of the most important congressman in Washington, and normally you

got to be there twenty years before you get a sniff. Where Brad Weinstrip was picked as one of the top ten United States Congressmen in Washington, even though he's only been there about eleven years. It's because he works across the aisle. He's bright, puts in the time, works about seventy to eighty hours a week, and you get burned out. So all I can say is congratulations, and we're going to get them on as much as we can

the next thirteen or fourteen months, because he is consequential. Secondly, I'm watching one of the talk shows this morning, and it is considered standard operating procedure when a Jew leaves a dormitory or a house to walk to class. That large numbers of AMAS sympathizers will get around that Jewish student male or female with bullhorns and start yelling at them anisomitic slurs, using f bombs and more

to make their life uncomfortable in class. There are demonstrations, especially in the Ivy League, breaking out on history class or mathematics class, shouting animitic slurs to Jewish students inside the class. And you know, in Los Angeles last week there was a sixty nine year old Jewish male who was beaten to death with a bullhorn and die. It is common now, especially on college campuses and in downtown New York or Chicago or Los Angeles, to physically attack Jews

wherever they can be found. Also, I found this morning that to Israel has called on Hamas to surrender the Sifa hospital base as the US begins striking Iranian proxies in Syria. By that, I mean the Shifa Hospital was in complete collapse because beneath the Shifa Hospital is ten to fifteen layers floors of the Hamas command structure, which by itself is a war crime by Hamas. So

Hamas locates their command centers underneath hospitals and schools. And other apartment buildings, so that when the Israelis try to respond in a surgical fashion, if there's individuals killed, they can continue to have their friends in the media publicize that

fact and away we go. Hamas claims that there are no bases underneath the Shifa Hospital, which is a lie because at some point it is going to become a parent with video evidence that they always place their command structures, paid for generally by Europeans and Americans, under hospital's, apartment buildings and schools because it makes it more difficult for Israelis to respond when they start a war.

I also would note you may recall that at one point Sodom Mussein, when he was still in power, used a large amount of nerve gas to kill his own people. There were men, women, and children thousands that were killed in villages that did not have support from Sada Mussein. And at that point, how much criticisms does Sodom Mussein receive from the United Nations or from

the left wing Hamas chapters on college campuses. They didn't do a damn thing about the men, women, children, and babies killed by Sodom Mussein in the Middle East. It also might recall that in Syria three four or five years ago, bashar Asad, now leading Assyria, also used nerve gas dropped from airplanes and artillery shells to kill as many opponents as he could, and that that number went into well into the tens of thousands Muslims killing Muslims with

nerve gas, artillery shells and bombs. Did you hear from the Hamas chapters of any college university at that point or the un Absolutely not. I watched over the weekend a CNN report that it is common in Muslim Arab countries five hundred million live, whether it's Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, or Jordan, or Libya or Egypt, it is common to have a father to sell is nine ten eleven year old daughter as a bride to marry some fat dude in

their thirties or forties. The marriage takes place that the father delivers up as eleven year old daughter to a cleric and the little eleven year old girl is crying as she puts down a fingerprint and a photos taken. She signs a form and suddenly she's married for the first time to someone twenty years older than her and the father gets money. Now, how much reporting on this have you seen? It? Has comped millions and millions of girls and the Muslim

Arab world live a life such as that. And after two, three or four years, if she's not living up to snuff the way that the husband demands, he'll take her back to that cleric and get a quickie divorce. And then she can't get married again because she's lost her virginity at the age of eleven. Is that a human rights violation? Is that sexual slavery? Is that in a sense human trafficking? Absolutely? And how much reporting is

there of that in Western societies? Or how many of these women great number of these protesters about sixty five percent of females protests. That isn't that about the most disgusting, worst thing you could ever imagine? And once she is divorced, she lives a life of sexual indentured servitude to the cleric himself or other men come for a weekend of happiness, marriage for a weekend, and

that girl has passed around. And that happens on a regular basis in air of Muslim countries all over the Middle East, who serve on human rights committees for the United Nations. How about that so when nerve gas is used on their own people, the UN says nothing. But when Israel uses tear gas, international rebuke takes place. So when Hamas kills Jews, it's called the beginning of a war. When Israel responds, it's a war crime. And

it goes on and on and on. In the last few days, thousands of gallons of fuel has been delivered to this chief of hospital in Gaza. It was taken by Hamas for war purposes. When medical supplies are given, it is stolen by Hamas to use for the war. When food is delivered, they take it away from the Gaza residence and use it for themselves. There could be as many as thirty to fifty thousand Hamas fighter as still alive. They're using all the all the water, the food that they can in

order to kill Jews and to hell with their own people. So don't tell me about how innocent and how good and how this war and how Israel is always to blame no matter what they do. And at Harvard that many consider to be a great university, may not include it. There was a petition signed by thirty one student groups with some four hundred Harvard students quote, we the undersign Harvard student organizations and persons hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all

unfolding violence in Gosa. All there, you got it. No matter what it is, blame the Jew. In short, Israel seeks to minimize civilian casualties whenever they can. Well, how Moss seeks to maximize civilian casualties. But Israel is always guilty. Israel is to blame constantly, forever, no matter what it is. Take short break. When we continue, Congressman Brad Winster will be here, and so Israeli's worn that Hamas is below schools,

below hospitals, several hundreds of feet below apartment buildings. Get out, They'll call the residents sing leave. And then when they respond to another Hamas attack by taking down the apartment building on top of their headquarters. Gets what that's ignored by the mainstream media. Blame the Jew. Blame the Jew. Jews are hated for being rich and for being poor. Jews are hated for being powerful and for being weak. Jews are hated when they're victims, and they're

hated when they're the victors. No matter what it is, blame the Jew, and it works at least in the Arab world. Well, guess what, it doesn't work with me or you. Let's continue twelve fifty four Home of Your Bengals. Thursday Night is bigger than Montana. On news radio seven hundreds WLW. It's Monday Night. Hoops, it'll be big time falling that Sean Miller's Musketeers take the court against produced boiler Makers. Three. How about

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nation of ours is Congressman brad winstrip And there about twelve consecutive years. He made a rather dramatic announcement about three or four days ago that he will not seek re election to another term as US House of Representatives. And if you listen to me for a while, Brad comes on quite often. He's on the Ways and Means Committee, he's on the Intelligence committee. He's chair of

a subcommittee looking into the origins of COVID nineteen. But most importantly, Politico and others have said he's one of the top ten US Congressmen from either party of the four hundred and thirty five. He's in the top ten because of his influence and his committee assignment's ability to walk across the island, deal with Democrats at times, and he's well respected. So it's said to lose people

like this. He's got one more year to serve and Congressman Brad Winster, welcome, I think, for one of the final times as a Congressman to the Bill Cunningham Show. And can you tell the American people why you decided to make this at this point. You announced that I think on Thursday, four days ago. And why are you leaving Congress at the end of your

term. Well, first of all, yeah, we've got fourteen more months to go, and I plan to run through the tape because we've got a lot to do, and I hope to get a lot of things done when it comes to dealing with the pandemic and how we deal with one in the future, as well as how we can make America a healthier nation, not just to have a health care policy, but actually be a healthy nation,

and can continue to work on national security. And I think at the end of this term there'll be opportunities out there to continue to stay in the game, not necessarily in an elected position. So we'll see what comes our way. But a lot of that had to do with family. I've got young kids and I miss him, and so that's a big part of it.

And you know, Congress is hectic. We know that going in. When I started twelve years ago, I didn't have any kids, and now I have two, and I want to make sure that I'm there because I think one of the most important things things that we can do in America is be good parents. And sometimes fathers aren't present as much as they should be.

And my kids want me around, and I want to be there. And you know, I was reminded a while back by one of my surgeon mentors that I was taught by as a physician, and he said, you don't

have to be someone somewhere else as long as you're somebody at home. And I've always believed in God, family, and country in that order, and I'll continue to work on all three as far as the typical life of a US congressman, many many years ago, before you took office, I met with a congressman at that point, Congressman Rob Portman, and I had sites of maybe running for that seat. And he said, before you do it, I want to meet with you. I said, Rob, I love

to meet with you. And I met with him. I said, he said, let me show you my schedule. I said, okay, let me see your schedule. He left on an early flight on Monday morning. He was in Washington by about ten am eleven am on Monday. If he had something going on early Monday. He left on Sunday and he stayed there until Thursday night. On Friday, he showed me a schedule in Washington. He was on four committees. He showed me the appointments he had coming up

the next week. He showed me the presentations, the speeches. And the worst part about the job, he said, was cold calling people to get money. That as a relatively new US congressman, I had to go into a soundproof booth. Gave me a list of people to call and shake them down legally of course, for money. And then he showed me when I got back on Thursday night of Friday. I had at that particular weekend seventeen

appearances on Friday, Saturday, and part of Sunday. Do you run a similar schedule pretty much, except that I have to say I've been in a position one way or another that I actually have fundraising teams that do most of that work. I mean, I will have events, and I will have meetings and this and that, but I don't do a lot of the phone calling. It's set up and we seek it another way. So I've been fortunate. It's not that way necessarily every district, but we've been able to

work it that way. But otherwise, Yes, one time I wore a fit bit and I was doing between thirteen and eighteen thousand steps a day in the Capitol, just going from one committee to the next. So you get a pretty good idea. It's not a desk job, that's for sure, although you do spend other hours at your desk doing a lot of work, and it's been enjoyable work, there's no doubt. But I'm not leaving bitter

or anything like that. I know democracy can be very messy. I think it's messier right now than it has been in the past, But that doesn't mean we can't get things done. You cited those other articles. I think that sometimes when you do things, you get them done quietly. You're not

necessarily on TV talking about them. And I think that as a doctor and as a veteran, you can bring a lot more to the table on issues that involving health in military and that's where we get things done, and sometimes bipartisan with other doctors and other veterans, and so I think that had something to do. But if you take a common sense approach to a lot of things, and you work on being persuasive rather than bombastic, you can really

get things done. And I have a Reagan quote on my desk. It said there's no limit to what you can accomplish if you don't care who gets the credit. Yeah, no question. You're one of the top ten, maybe the top five or six. You're up there in my book with Congress from Jim Jordan. People like that have great respect for You've been called a doctor for about thirty thirty five years. You've been called a colonel recently promoted. You were in the military twenty five years and now a congressman, but

for about twelve years. So you're a doctor, a colonel, a congressman, But the most important thing you've been called is dad or honey. That's right from your wife, correct too. I want to keep that one going for sure, you know. But yeah, it's it's it's true. It's it's music to my ears when I hear the kids, you know, call

me dad. I got married late. Didn't know if I'd ever hear that, so I'm thrilled to have it. And you know, there was a time when the kids weren't going to school yet where we drove back and forth every week too, to add to it, but the kids were good in the car. They watched Andy Griffiths and they know that show. So we're trying to do things best we can. Willy, what are you going to do, because you're still a relatively young man. Are you gonna back into

practice. You're retired from the military as a colonel, you're retired as a congressman. Are you going to be a doctor. I'll always be a doctor in some way, shape or form. We'll see. I don't know if it'll be full time practice like before, but at the same time, I think that there'll be avenues to be engaged in the health arena as well as

the national security arena. And at the same time, I think there's going to be some things that you can do locally, philanthropically or just making good connections for people, because I think there's a lot of things you can do if you don't wait for Washington, we can do it better privately than if Washington tries to do it. All right, Congressman Brad Winschall, let's go on to some of the issues. On Friday, all hell could break loose

again. It appears that the proposals of Speaker of the House Johnson to break this thing down into two parts. A part of it would be a valot until January, then part would be February. He doesn't want to tie everything together the one hundred and six billion dollars, which is a credit card debt. On top of the credit card debt, what's going to happen between now and Friday? Is there going to be another government shutdown? Well, when

nobody runs to shut down, I can tell you that. But what we want to do is put things in place to start with better process, and we've seen over the last several years. What we don't want to see is a bill at the end of the year. That's a huge garbage pail where everything gets thrown into it and it gets passed, and usually it's an increase

in spending, and so we want to paste this out. We've been actually working in our committees in the House, not much in the Senate, but in the House to go ahead and come up with our appropriations bills, our actual spending bills where we actually say this is where we want to spend money. And so what's being proposed is to extend government funding in two steps. Go with four appropriations bills that will extend to January nineteenth, and then the

remaining eight bills extend until February second. That doesn't mean we haven't done these things in the House and aren't close to completing the all, but understand that when we get it done in the House, then has to go to the Senate or the Senate has to bring theirs to the table and we go to

conference and then it goes to the President. So we're buying time, and you know, we also have a bill in place so if we get into jail where there's an automatic one percent cut, at the same time, we're going to make sure that we can adequately fund our military and can engage with some of the situations we have going on around the world, But a one percent cut on most other areas would be just fine with me because we have

a lot of unnecessary spending. The bottom line is we have to get back to a process where we are really acting like a business like CEOs and getting together and deciding how we're going to spend our money and address our debt. It is one of our greatest risks. The trajectory is unsustainable. Moody's has put the US credit rating on a downgrade watch. You know, it's a negative outlook for the US credit rating, And we've got to do better in

managing our country. And at some point we also have to address mandatory spending. Those are the things that are programs that money just goes out the door without us ever looking at it, and they're taking over the pie. So in addition to borrowing money, what we actually have keeps getting squnched as far

as the discretionary spending, which is what those appropriations bills are. But at the same time, when you put a program in place, and you put it in perpetuity, you've got to go back and look and see if it's working and can it be sustainable. You have to look at numbers. You have to look at how many people pay into the tax paying system, all of these types of things. What does the next generation look like? That's what actuaries do with insurance companies. That's what we have to do as a

nation. Are you shocked what's happening since October seventh about the Hamas chapters on most US college campuses. One hundred thousand march to New York City, one hundred and fifty thousand marched over the weekend in London. Are you shocked at the blatant anti semitism you're seeing everywhere as if it's mainstream? Am I had?

You know, we knew we had problems on our campuses without a doubt, But for people to be so one sided, they have so much hatred and be able to completely ignore what Hamas did when they went into innocent civilians in Israel, and I don't think we've seen anything like that in this world since the Holocaust, to be honest with you, as far as brutal, terrible behavior where you totally disregard someone's life, down to children, the atrocities

that were committed on and these groups seemed to be able to just ignore that. And now we hear it call we now we hear a call for a ceasefire. Bill, Well, there was a ceasefire. There was a ceasefire, but Hamas Hamas negated it. Hamas went right in. Hamas went right in and just took down innocent people. Took no prisoners, if you will, except for some, and they're still held hostage, and no one seems to want a comment on that. I've been for a two state solution for

some time, but you know what, this is interesting, Bill. We were cleaning the house and a picture frame came open in the back and there was old newspaper in there for nineteen ninety four Cincinnati enquire The sports section was kind of fun because we just won opening days. This is April of ninety four. Kevin Mitchell hit a home run. Anyway, But if you looked at this, I went to page two of the front page and it was

the Israeli soldiers leaving Gaza. It was an article about them leaving Gaza and they're being attacked, and they're being attacked by the youth who are throwing rocks at them and chanting we don't want peace. Because the reporter, I don't know if it was an AP reporter, they were like, well, why are you doing this? You know they're they're leaving. They're leaving so there can be peace. And then we don't want peace. This is the youth. Well now what are they forty years old? Now you know who they

are. So this seems to be something taught. It seems to be within that particular group. There is no there is no chance of peace. They don't want peace. It's death or nothing else for Jews right now. And you know, Israel has the right to defend itself and they should and we're going to help them and as best we can. You know, the House has passed a bill to fund them, and we also paid for it in

our time. We took some money from the Irs to be able to actually that was already appropriated by Democrats. We took some of that money to pay for you know, from the IRS, to pay for the funding for Israel

to defend itself. Yeah, and I would say this that that in this country, I don't think things have been this bad since nineteen sixty eight, with all the riots in nineteen sixty eight, the political assassinations, what happened in Chicago, And here we are in twenty twenty three, and something got screwed up three or four years ago. Maybe it was because the the George

Floyd riots. They weren't protest. They were riots in which cops were killed, a couple billion dollars of value taken out of cities, complete collapse of law and order. Whatever it was, George Soros to Marxist, whatever it is, things have been completely screwed up. And now it's just seems like riots, protests, knocking on the doors of the White House, bloody hands all over the building from pro a Moaque demonstrators, Lafayette Statue vandalized. It's

happening in many, many major cities. I see the swastika put on NYPD police cars over the weekend in order to, I guess, frighten the Jews. Just massive lawlessness is happening everywhere. Everywhere I look, I see nothing but crisis. You're in the belly of the beast. Is there a belief in an apprehension in Washington, Congressman, that we are living in very perilous times when it comes to spending by this country. The two in Europe and

in the Middle East. You have a complete breakdown of law and order on the southern border. I saw on one of the morning morning shows today that there's a school district in Texas near the border that has to have Narkham available because they've had several overdoses. They think unwinningly of grade school kids. That the prevalence of heroin, percoset and fentanyl is so ubiquitous that Narkham is being handed out to seven and eight year olds to their parents in case they inadvertently

take fentanyl or purposely take percoset. If you're in high school, there is something wrong in this country right now. We need people like you to stick around. Brad winstrip I understand why you're leaving. But nonetheless, is there a sense among among Republicans and Democrats in Washington that that that we are in trouble? Yeah, there is a huge sense of it, I could say so within the Republican Party. I think the Democrat party they understand it.

Matter of fact, I think more and more of them really want to do something about the border. And especially when you start talking about fentanyl. There are many over there, China's and the other threat that. Yeah, we haven't even really talked about in this conversation, but we have many, many times, and it's a big part of the problem. You know, I'll still be in the fight, but I want to make sure my kids know what America is really founded on what we have been and hopefully you know this.

This seems like more than just a little bit of a pendulum swing. Is much greater than that, and we have to address that. And people have to start understanding that America is being self destructed and also being destructed, and it's happening on many, many fronts, and we have to continue to go after that. But I don't think people are growing up with the right education on many fronts, and that has been the problem when we've let it

happen. And you know what, this is the greatest country that's ever existed, but you have to continue to live by the same principles, morals, values and virtues that we have had for over two hundred years. And when

we start letting those go, then we have a problem. And if you're going to disrespect the democracy, the only democracy in the Middle East, and be okay with them being slaughtered and support those that are slaughtering them, this is a sickness and it's a culture of death that is out there on many fronts. All right, thank you, and we'll talk again later this year and next. But congratulations brad Winstrup, doctor, colonel, congressman, father

and a husband coming back home in about a year. Brad Winstrop, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Congressman, Thank you always the pleasure, Thank you, God bless you. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham, seven hundred WLW. Hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting guy on a ridiculously tough day to be a Bengals fan, broadcasting by himself. How about that that's his that's his postgame podcast. That's a tough day to be a Bengal fan, sure was. How about the look

in Joe Burrow's eyes on the bench, He's got that far distant. How about lou An Arumo's look when he was going, Uh, you got to cover that guy. You gotta cover that guy, you gotta Why aren't we covering people five and forty five of total defense, up and down, up and down the field, track shoes on? No CJ. Stroud, whoever? They got their quarterback in Houston, They got him. Yeah, how about was that Warren Moon was Yes, that was him, Warren Campbell.

Was he out there running? I think so? Yeah. I thought I saw bum Phillips standing on the sidelines. That guy, guy in a cowboy hat. That guy went to Reading high school, didn't he? I think so. That the home of Tony Pikes. You mean Tony Pick? Did you see him play his last game? We call him Tony Pick? Will

he the stood reporters of Frond Service, every local tame star? He didn get air conditioning dealers thamestar quality you could feel in southwest Ohio called better choice heating and cool to get five to one to three, six eight, six, eight thirty three eighty eight spot Say Thursday night's a big game? Would you agree slightly? Yeah, but you gotta be up fourteen points on the Ravens in the fourth quarter. If that happens, you're gonna win the game.

Well that's true because Cleveland was down fourteen and Deshaun Watson, who of course they wanted to run out of town a few weeks ago, let him back yesterday and Cleveland wins at the gun. One of five games? Will he five count him? Including the Bengals that went with the most game winning scores with no time left in the in regulation in a single week in NFL history. It's pretty good. Obviously, this one hurts, but no,

we'll come back stronger. Is Joe Burrow being bengalized? No, the windows my whole career, and and everybody that we have in that locker room, all the coaches we have. No things are going to change year to year, but our windows always open. Well, don't worry because in twenty twenty one they were five and four at this point in the season. What did they do? Super Bowl? Right? Twenty twenty two, they were five and four at this point in the season, a return to the AFC Championship

Game. So all is not lost in bengaled them. Well, you're sure about that, right. Troy Hendrickson uh in the top ten in the National Football League with eight and a half sacks, suffered that Hype suffered a hyper extended knee when Texans wide receiver Noah Brown fell into him during the game. He's going to have an MRI, might be out a short time. We'll wait and see. But then t Higgins, how about that hamstring? And then Sam Hubbard, what about the ankle playing or not. I don't know.

We'll wait and see. Well, why don't you find out? Oh, we got to find out from you know, probably a day or so. We got to find out fast because Thursday's approach at More tonight on Bengals line six oh five, Lance and lap right here on seven hundred WLW. Well what about coming in? We had some state champions? Have you talked to the boys and girls that have won state titles to get him in here? Contacted themal Willie. It looks like on Wednesday afternoon, the coach and

ladies from Cincinnati Country Day girl soccer state titleist. We'll be here last year, yes, second year in a row. See the magic continues. Good Summit Country Day one and girls soccer state champions Kings and mccaully. What about the Knights? Mcknick lost in volleyball and then Moler lost to Cleveland sati Ignacius and boys soccer twenty four and one. Apparently I guess with the was the final tally for the Crusaders p Ks and Mauler lost on the last kick.

Have an undefeated, untied, one goal scored season and Muller must learn to deal with the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. Speaking of the Bengals and Texans. Yesterday, one of the largest payouts on a parlay bet ever reported I saw by a US sports book came down to the final seconds with C. J. Stroud, a vetter in Florida, won five and a half million dollars and a half million dollars four leg NFL parlay. Explain it and the newly reopened hard Rock sports book in Florida explain it now,

the four legs of the same game parlay. Were Texans beat the Bengalsnumber one, you got to win that? Did he win that? Yes? Number two Texans. Bengals go over forty four and a half points. I think thirty to twenty seven. That's fifty seven points. That's number two Texans running back Devin Singletary scored a touchdown. He did score a touchdown. We that's number three Singletary to go over fifty one and a half rushing yards. That

did happen. You have to get all these five and a half million bucks, what up a half a mil I'll take it in I'll take it in twenties. And if you win three of the four e got to win them all. Now college football, Jimbo Fisher, of course fired over the weekend yesterday by Texas A and M. The Aggies are six and four and four and three in the SEC. They beat Mississippi State fifty one to ten Saturday. Mississippi State let their coach go today. Now, I don't cheat,

I don't lie, thank you. So I learned that when I was a kid, if you did the old man slapped us side of the head, maybe somebody should have slapped him. Well, he's gonna slap somebody. Because the move by Jimbo Fisher being fired cost Texas A and M a record seventy six million dollar payout. I'd want to be fired. Yeah, he is due nineteen million dollars within sixty days of the firing. Merry Christmas to him. Then then they will pay him seven point two million dollars annually through twenty

thirty one stay in Texas. His first coaching job was at Sanford at twenty thousand dollars. Now Fisher will get paid per day over the next eight years not to coach the Aggies twenty six thousand, three hundred dollars a day on condition you don't coach Bingo. Whoever negotiated that for jim Bo Fisher should get a little bit of the ass. I wish it was his agent. And so they play a game, right Yange's feat the Bulldogs of Jeff Frantlely.

They run, they run Jimbo Fisher out of town, the Mississippi State. They let their coach go, and apparently Jeff Brantley's taking over. But you didn't hear that from us. So both coaches'll take into how God did his deal. You may find out about it about a guy that a lot of things you don't want to know. We built him up to be the Tzar of football. Go dig into his past or anybody's ever coached with him. You can find out anything you want to find out what he does and how

he does it. Misdspicable is he talking about there? I have no idea college basketball tonight, Xavier I third rate a Perdue in West Lafayette and eight o five right here on seven hundred WLW. Now, Xavier MO gave me seventeen and a half points for a U to f hot foot Sunday. How about that, Jumanzi, what for do you mean? Xavier and Perdue Xavier get seventeen and a half. I took the bat? Why not? Why not? Purdue is a much of tall white guys for crew cuts and Harry

Lakes Xavier men's soccer team, the Big East Champions. You're alma mater. Well host Kentucky the Big Blue coming to town in the first round of the NCAA Men's soccer tournament this Thursday, Right this Thursday, November sixteenth, at Corkoran Field. The Xavier one day yesterday beating Georgetown. I think that's where Pennies Senior Citizen female rugby team's gonna play. That's correct, because those women are rough come. How come that they didn't name that after you? Corkoran

Field didn't pay it? Not? Can your mother play a little rugby? No? Let's what Bobby Henderson told me. Uh huh that most of the women and his family over sixty five would love to play on the team. Did you see Would you go and watch that? Well? Not no, but I bet you will put it on the broadcast. We'll put it on the project or Kiss one O seven with John John doing the pregame show. Let's say if Joe and Byron do the game, Senior Citizen Female Rugby.

They doing nothing else. FC Cincinnati center back Matt Mioska has been named the twenty twenty three MLS Defender of the Year. Thirty six games he was on the field. FCC this year allowed just thirty five goals in trouble. Uh yeah, either one of the one that referees referees room, having still have not heard what the punishment is there? What do you think about that? Uh? Well, I think he go in the referees room. You might

be. I think he's going to miss the upcoming Eastern Conference semi finals or at least a couple of Thanksgiving November the twenty fifth, that's correct. Now what about Michigan? No, harball, that was a mess. What do you think about that? Well, he gets his day in court coming up? What Thursday? Right? I want to say Friday or Thursday or Friday? So thank you, lap So we'll see what. Well, you're the lawyer in the group. What do you think is going to happen? I

hang him high? Does he get a t R O or a TKO? Hang him a high? Yes? What's that mean? Hang him a high? No? You know what I say? No? Four fifth to two, Ohio state victories the last two years. No, because he cheated, it's not gonna happen. No, they're gonna They're gonna lay that down. And then I was watching over the weekend Urban Meyer up at Penn State where he was getting leveled by the fans. Yeah, gave his spiel. And then Charles Woodson, one of the housemen for Michigan, was on the show

too. In the Fox pregame, he said a couple of bad words over the weekend. Well, the on National TV he said, the whole situation is blank blank blank. And it was like, well, uh no, dump, no delay, what do you do? Guess they let it go and what do you do? I'm watching Channel five about two three weeks ago. Yeah, they were doing Live from the Banks and some woman behind them on the air drop the F bomb. What do you do? I don't

know, But you're responsible for everything going on over their segment. That's what I'm telling you. We write this down responsible. How you responsible? Yes, ctl l E okay, everything over the th air A. iHeartMedia training. We just took some got to take some more, the code of conduct, gotta take some more. All I know is xavior Tonight's got a big game at Purdue. Correct, and I got xavior plus seventeen and a half. And then of course yesterday Willie and Victor Lockhan with the double double as

the Bearcats go to three and oh they knock off Eastern Washington. So a good start for Wes Miller's group. Allegedly, I'm having on Wes Miller tomorrow or Wednesday to talk about David Yost, the Attorney General. That's true. So they deny that the NC double A is denied, and then the NC double A is letting these other guys play three or four other guys, They say, well, we'll clear them. What's wrong with you? What about Jim Harball? What's gonna happen in the court. I don't know. That's

it's a whole Thing's a mess. It's what happens if he doesn't get the t ro O. So then he has to sit and what doesn't he can he take it to the Michigan Supreme Quarters up next hearing. It would be about thirty to sixty days from now. What Wolf either wins, that would be ro o or not. Uh? Oh, of course it's a house.

It's a house judge in Michigan, it's unless the guy like you're judge with rowdy Roddy Piper says, I was a fan of Louisville and he rips off the jacket and Michigan State judge correct or Central maybe Central Michigan, Western Michigan State Bingo, it's a democratic judge. I think that democratic female judge is under a lot of pressure to grant the T, the R and the O. What do you think you're the lawyer, what do you think you think he's got? She grants it. So then so then he goes to

coach. Then you can coach, and then you cant. Then the other side can appeal it and have a hearing in thirty to sixty days by then, and then he doesn't coach, say like if he gets the tro he coaches, okay, but but then like Ohio State will say, hold up on that car. Wise, gentlemen, get in front of just as Joe Bingo, bring the case here, bring the case here, change a venue, rock and roll with Hugh to Pole and then see what happens. Get

him in front of you. So these other schools could block that right? Correct? Correct? Wow about that? Sports fans, Frank cel says, cheater, cheater, hair on fire. I'm telling you right now, and you give me and you can't tell me that. I mean stand, I'm microwave of package, microwave some package. Okay, out of time, We're out of time. We got to get back to the commercial. We got to get over the overtime segment. Get me please out of the Studge Report.

Welly, who they think going to beat them Bengals on Thursday? Hopefully not Lamar. We leave you with the immortal words of the stud report. We got nothing back to the commercials yep. On news radio seven hundred WLW. It's the road home sexist, homophobic nation that is almost irredeemable. And my next guest points out there are many words that exist today in reality, especially in colleges and universities and elsewhere, like diversity and equity and inclusion and

white privilege and anti racism and critical waste theory and queer theory. I kind of feel bad saying the word queer, but I guess it's okay. Now there were terms that rarely discussed of five ten years ago, didn't exist, but today they're proliferating because I think they pay a whole bunch of money to those who advocate. One of the great new books out is The Diversity con Secrets and Lies Behind the Shady DEI Industry, put together by David Johnson and

David Johnson. Welcome, I think for the first time, to the Bill Cunningham Show. And David. First of all, let's go back a little bit in time to your history. I've read some of your background and you don't necessarily fit the ideal of what many would say is acceptable in our society, which I find very acceptable. Tell us a little bit a little bit about your journey before we get into the Diversity con sure so, and thank

you for having me. By the way, I'm not a conservative, so I'm like a traditional liberals, I guess you could say the time my story started with I worked for Hasbro's an engineer, and one day they brought me into a CRT training seminar and the messages that we were told was that children as young as five would start to exhibit oh sorry, they started to exhibit overt racial biases in the same level as their parents at the age of five

five years old. Yep. Children as the youngest five, particularly white children, and what they wanted the engineers to do. My team was to use anti racist messaging to influence the product and packaging to bring the racial consciousness to young children. And this is Hasbro, which is one of the great toy

makers in America. And so you also point out in the part of this that that the left claims that a six month old it can be a racist baby, and that by the time of five, Hasbro has a mission of changing the toys that little kids play with to make them anti racist and so. And also you say in your bio, which I find very interesting, that that you're a young black, center left gay man who never felt this discriminated against in America, but now you're an engineer working for Hasbro, and

all of a sudden you're taught to look for racism everywhere. Yeah, that's true. So I grew up in upstate New York, and like, there's racism in the country at micro levels that I'm sure many people have experienced. But the claim that we're being taught to accept now is that America as a whole is a racist country and that all of our institutions are set up to disadvantage black people, minorities, gays, and every other minority. Group that

you can label and this is just not true. Especially being a child of the nineties, I grew up with the teachings of Martin Luther King that we're supposed to judge people based on their merits and their character, not the color of their skin. But diversity, equity, and inclusion are the complete antithesis of this idea. And so where how does this tell me? As an

engineer for Hasbro? How did you manifest what the company wanted to be done so that a three year old girl doesn't develop racist ideas from a doll or some toy. How do you change the product or what do you reflect in the product? So they didn't give us any specifics in that meeting at the time, but the overall message that they were giving us was to just use the ideals of anti racism and critical race theory and keep it in mind when

designing packaging, advertising and marketing. How do you do that? How do you how do you keep anti racism in mind when you talk about toy packaging? How does that work? You could do it a number of ways. What we see typically is that you might have a children's package with the Black Lives Matter fist and maybe an assortment of racially diverse children that are espousing these

teachings of these organizations or these ideologies that people need to see color. That was a model used by a cartoon network's Children Show to teach children that they should judge people based on race and consider that when they're treating people. And so it's one thing to have a black barbie, which I don't that's fine, But to have subliminal, indirect liberal messages inside a toy product. Is

that kind of where you draw the line. Yes, So, like you said, I don't think most people would care if there's a black barbie, for example, But the problem would come in to say when you tell children that the black children need to play with the black barbie and the white children need to only play with the white barbie, and that these the differences in

race need to be accounted for when they're interacting with each other. This is where I draw the line, and this is why I found it so unacceptable, and I thought that I needed to bring it to the public's attention. It's happened as we speak. As far as other indications of this, your book addresses the misconception that efforts are Marxist and origins while using Marxist ideology.

These large left wing businesses that fund DEI groups are more interested in crushing local businesses creating a monopoly such as Google and Amazon and Facebook, so they use race and acceptable DEI practices in liberal communities. But the object is to make certain of small businesses that they compete against cannot succeed. That is one facet of it. Because these ideologies are pushed by such major market players like Google,

who's owned by alphabet who's even larger company. You have the NFL pushing this. You have places like Target. Even Walmart had a d program for their employees. So it's a very widespread issue. And while one of the side effects of their activism is going to be the destruction of businesses that don't comply, the end goal is to kind of engineer a society what they would call an inclusive society, where the even idea to challenge these ideas is just

unacceptable. It's not anything that's allowed to be done lest you face the consequences of losing your job or social ostracization. So basically there's one it's almost like the cultural revolution of communists China back in the sixties and seventies in which you have to believe or adhere to a certain set of principles and if you fail

to do so, you will be canceled. It is the exact same We are experiencing a cultural revolution in America, and you can see the parallels in that because a lot of these activists, while they're teaching DII or critical race, they or they will also throw in a criticism of generally just what they consider capitalism, even though the nature of capitalism, free market exchange, is

what allows America to be prosperous. But they have been taught to see capitalism as an inherent evil because it doesn't bring about equal outcomes for all the people involved, nor should it, because we don't want equal outcome. We want people to earn what We want people to have what they earned through their merit. No one decided this. There was no law that told Hasbro or Amazon or Walmart or Target what they had to do what they didn't have to do.

So it seems like no one is directing all this DEI stuff all over the country, but everyone's like marching in the same direction that are in charge of these large multinationals. Can you tell us why in your opinion, it's happening that way because bud Light came out a little bit strong with Dylan mulvaney, etc. Bud Lights now used to be the top brand. Now it's not in the top ten. Target's taking a serious hit when you have tuck

pouches for three year old boys or girls that identify some other gender. Is there a other marching orders given? How come different companies, different businesses in different ways of life proceed with DEI, But like nobody specifically is in charge, they just know to do it. The companies are facing pressures from what

I would generally consider two major sources. The first source is top down from such large institutions like Blackrock and other large investment firms that will go to these companies and say, hey, we have a DEI program for you, and if you want to continue receiving our investment, if you want to receive certain credations, then you will have to implement this in your company. So it

creates a corporate pressure from that's top down. And then on the other side of it, there's an emergent social pressure with the advent of social media, where relatively small groups of people can brigade a company and give their ideology a much bigger sense of popularity among the populace that actually has. So companies will interact with social media and think that the general public supports anti racism as an example, when they don't, but it has an outsized view because of social

media. David Johnson, author of the Diversity con And so for a large multinational institution like Target or Walmart, there are pitches given in Bentonville, Arkansas every year for thousands of companies line up in order to pitch Walmart on buying their product and putting it on the shelf. You mean to say that part

of accepting the product from a small provider to Walmart. Walmart will say to that small company, we like to do business with you, but here's some DEI programs which I consider to be dee, not DEI because we're going to die from this. But here are the programs we would like you to implement. Wink wink, nod, nod, you better do it. Is that how it works. That's a pretty good way to describe it. It will usually come in the form of they'll have a certificate, for example, and

it's this company's certified diversity. It's the acceptable levels that the top down companies would like to see. And the smaller companies can either choose to abide by it and then adopt these diversity programs, or they can reject it. But then it comes across that they have less certifications, they have less I guess it doesn't look as good when they're compared to their competitors. And as far as getting future business, much like during the Chinese Cultural Revolution, you get

so many red ribbons when you complete certain levels of indoctrination. The more levels or the more emblems or symbols you accumulate, the more likely the fellow travelers will do business with you because of what you put out on your company website. For example, it is almost required to do business with these large companies Amazon, Microsoft, Walmart, Target. You have to toe the company line to make the money. And if you don't, guess what, you're not

going to get the business. Now do you see this, David Johnson, Here we are at the end of twenty twenty three. Is this accelerating, is this declining or is this maintaining the status quo as far as companies having to tow the DEI line to get business, is this increasing staying the same or lessening. It's tough to say. I would say that the status quo of companies just blindly accepting it has been disrupted because we've seen such major backlash

against companies like anneiser Busch and Target. So I believe that if the public continues to speak out and make their voices known that these are not ideals that we will support with our dollars, then we will see a continued decline of these ideas being accepted in pitutions. However, on the other side of that is because they're seeing pushback, the push to have these companies coerced into accepting

this has become more forceful. These individuals who teach these classes, do they really believe that a six month old or a four year old little girl is racist? Do they really believe that? Some of them do. I think very very much that it's like a cult mentality. There are people who know that it's not true, but they're pushing it for ideological gains. And there are people that are true believers that don't think through these ideas completely, so

they're not aware of the contradictions or the absurdities within it. You know, David Johnson, you made some great comments, one of which is, you see what's happened to bud Light, you see what's happening to Target. You see what's happening to Disney, And that is I will not go to Disney drink beer. I don't drink any alcohol, but I would clearly not order a bud Light. And more than once I've passed a Target to go to a Walmart. However, I'm not sure Walmart is significantly different than Target,

but nonetheless, Target got in the got in the Target. Shall we say of those of us who want a more traditional viewpoint, but this is uh. I'll ask you the last question, David Johnson, is this Is this so system systematic? Is this so ingrained in corporate structures, like through black Rock that owns thousands and thousands of businesses? Is this so ingrained that it's going to be damn near impossible to reverse. It's very ingrained for virtually every

major institution, But it's not impossible. And I think we've proven that by the fact that Anheuser Busch went from being the number one beer to no longer being in the top ten. And I think that it's it's good that people stop going to Target. And go to other places. Even it's Walmart that also had DEI policies, but they're less vocal about it. So it's an

incremental shift back towards normalcy, back towards American values. So if we continue to do that, then I think more and more the needle will be pushed back towards the center, and these companies will be forced to reject these ideologies or they will be hurt in their bottom line. David Johnson, thanks for coming on to Bill Cunningham Show. There's going to be about a million Americans

who hear this interview at some point. I love the fact that Dennis Praeger has the forward to your book, and the fact you know of what you speak. You describe yourself as a gay, black American center left who's never been felt discrimination. I'm sure you have felt it. I'm sure I've had it. Everyone feels discrimination or censusent in one way or another because of the way of one's appearance, one's weight, one's age, the way one talks,

the way. Absolutely those things are everywhere, but onto one invidious discrimination where you're held back because of your gay status or your color. That that is not the American way. But the book is fabulous. It's called The Diversity con the secrets and lies between the shady dei industry. And it happens because lots of money is involved. Billions of dollars are involved. It's seeking to change the American way of life and we can't have it in that direction.

Once again, David Johnson, author, thank you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And David, good luck to you and all your ventures. Thank you so much, and thank you again for having me. God bless America. Let's continue with more. And it is sad because follow the money like fellow travelers have the same philosophies and ideas. And I love the analogy to walmartin Bentonsville. Some company, little company shows up to

get shelf space. But to get the shelf space wink wink, non nod, you have to have the good housekeeping seal of approval and then you'll get business. Wow. Oh, let's continue Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WULW with inflation compensation. You could knock inflation outs with a thousand dollars. It's your chance to win a thousand. Burrow waits for the snap from Ted Carris Joe has the ball drops back from the twenty one turn, bobbled and dropped in

the end zone. Tyler Boyd a great throw and Boyd dropped what could have been the goal. I had touched down what should have been the go ahead touchdown, his second drop of the game. Hello, buyet, I'm broadcastings jamorro and or t Higgins were not to drop that ball? Is that correct? I would say so? Or Trent Irwin or Hudson? Would you? I would have caught that ball, Well, Rock would have caught it.

About Michael Mayer going over the top of that dude yesterday the against the Jets, his first touchdown in the National Football League, pretty good stuff prior to Covecat. You're avoiding the obvious absence. You may recall on Friday a wager was made and I took Anderson and the Rock had Harrison high school football.

Well, maybe he's in line at Greaters getting you a night Sunday. He lost to Hot Fudd Sunday, and where's he at that The Raptors kicked up the crap on the Wildcats and I won, And the Rock is noticeable by his absence. He won't confront I told him to bring two in, one for me and one for you. Oh, maybe he's in line. Maybe they're busy up there. Oh where is the rock? Also a man I bet earlier with Moe. I have Xavier plus seventeen and a half against Purdue.

What was that for another Sunday? Yes, a bunch of engineers that have hairy legs and white dudes with the crew cuts they got they can play? Will he look out now? Are you sure? Yes? I'm taking mister Edney can play. I'm taking Sean Miller. Will heave the stude reporters of proud service, every local Tame Star heating and air conditioning dealers, Tame Star quality. You canfield in beautiful northern Kentucky, cal Johnson Heating and Cooling

at eight five nine four seven two sixty fifty one spot. Or do you normally say? Or now that's on? That's for Brett Durbin. Uh, let's see. Uh the Bengals I gotta go with. Let's see. Uh they got it? Of course they lost yesterday to those Texans. Get more tonight on Bengals line six five right here on seven hundred WLWS Zach Taylor is

supposed to speak here in a little bit. Bengals defensive star Trey Hendrickson suffering a hyper extended knee yesterday when one of the Houston players you know, fell into him. He made missed some time. Because the Bengals are on that short week at Thursday night against Baltimore, a tough day to be a Bengal fankel Thank you. Kelsey Conway says that Hendrickson and Hubbard likely are not playing. You're gonna lose your both edge rushers and also t Higgins likely out again.

Well, then it's time for Miles Murphy to step up and let's go. What about Joseph him too? Get him on, Osio Sai. Can you see college basketball? You said? You said? Willie West Lafayette the site tonight wes Xavier up against those purdued boiler Makers at eight o five right here on seven hundred wlw FC. Cincinnati center back Matt Miosga is the twenty twenty three Major League Soccer Defender of the Year. Well gratulations to him and

another award for us. Yet I have not seen anything No Xavier men's soccer team, the Big East champs, will take on the Big Blue of Kentucky first round of the NCAA tournament Thursday night, right there at Corkoran Field, the home of the what the women's rugby team. Well, my wife Benny's putting together a senior citizen female rugby league, right and thus far she's having trouble getting players. She has a total of four and we got to have

at least two teams. We need twenty two seniors who are women that want to play rugby flat out. And I want to know where are the women in the Tri State when I need him. Michigan coach Jim Harball says he plans to attend a court hearing Friday. What a judge will hear arguments on whether to grant a restraining order that will nullify the Big Tens three game suspension

of the coach. He said he's going to talk Friday, looking forward to the opportunity of due process, not looking for any special treatment, not looking for a popularity contest, just looking for the merit of what the case is. That sounds like a bunch of crap to me right there. Amen. Well, the largest payouts on a parlay bet ever reported it by a US sports book, came down to the final second yesterday at pay Corpse Stadium, a better in Florida won five and a half million dollars and a half million

dollar four leg NFL parlay at the newly reopened Hard Rock Sports Book. What happened four legs in the same game parlay were Texans beat the Bengals. Texans and Bengals to go over forty four and a half points, bought a boon, bought a ban, and Texans running back at Devin Singletary score a touchdown Ding and Singletary could go over fifty one and a half rushing yards sing Ding Ding. Right, there goes the thing. So he put up five hundred

thousand in real cabbage five and a half million bucks. It's back ten to one because it's a parlay. Got hit all four. Now getting back to Jim Harbaugh. Yeah, talk to Tom Weedman, talked to almost George Hurst, the faithful. They want Jim Harbaugh to get up there and lay it out, lay it out. I guess he certainly will. I'm sure there'll be a denial of not knowing who this dude was and all this other stuff. I don't know, I don't they know, I don't know, Well,

who paid for all of his expenses to cheat. It was going to game after game after game. That's a good question. And all the seats were positions so we could see the signals. Correct. Now, how do you do that? I don't know in this day and age and right now, the other ads in the Big Ten they want to Scalp Bingo of Michigan Wolverine who threatened to leave the Big Ten. Let them one of the founding members of the Big Ten could go to the SEC and everybody else. How

would Michigan do playing Alabama and Georgia loss? Well, you know what though, Willie he like Jim Harbaugh said in his press conference today, they have nine and ninety nine wins in Michigan football, nine since time began. Wouldn't it be appropriate they play number Oh that would have been unbelievable Maryland. That's not going to ha No, that that they could put They could put the girls team out there win. Well? Will will this be the most covered

event in Michigan court history? Oh, there'll be cameras all over the place. I mean, and it's open, right, I mean, you can yeah walk in. Jimbo Fisher was was fired over the weekend. Will he have Texas A and M head football coach. Despite the Aggies six and four and four and three in the SEC and they throttled Mississippi State Saturday fifty one to tenos. But Jimbo is out anybody. No rules were broken, nothing was done wrong. It was all in the and the way we do things,

the ethics in which we do things, and these families. It's despicable that a repparable head coach could come out and say this, Well, he doesn't get his way or things don't go his way, a narcissist and he doesn't allow those things to happen. It's ridiculous. But when he's not on top and the parody in college football he's been talking about. The move is going to cost the school more than seventy six million dollars to buy out his

deal and sixty days coach Fisher is owed at nineteen million dollars. They'll pay him seven point two million annually through twenty twenty thirty one, almost like Barry Benia. So yes, Bobby Bania. They've Fisher will get paid per day twenty six three hundred dollars over the next eight years, not to coach how much a day twenty six thousand, three hundred dollars a day not to coach. Does that include the leap year or not? Did you add an extra?

I don't know. Maybe maybe so, I don't know. And he's in Texas and has no state income tax right, his first first coaching job at Sanford, he made twenty thousand dollars. Is that Fred? No, that's Jimbo Fisher. That's Fred Samford. No, no, No, Sanford or stan Stamford Sanford? Was it Stanford or Stanford Sanford? Fred Sanford? Yeah? Yeah? How much did he I'm gonna not I'm gonna give you five across the lip right now? Can you say that anymore? In TV?

To a woman what was that woman's name? And esther? Wow, she had a mouth on her, didn't she? Yes, she did. That was a good show. It was funny. You can't do it fun but that was funny. Now it was funny. Funny, man, but now you can't do that well? And who? And esther? Was that? And astor? Yes, Sanford Son, Great, that's some of the funniest you take him. And boy, the way Glenn Miller played songs that made the hit for Archie Bunker Guys was like us. We hadn't made those

were the days. Can't do that today either, Nope, can't do Flip Wilson stuff today. Don't do any of it. Nope, it's not politically correct. That is that is correct. Told us culturally what can be done and what camp be done with five across the lip. But the Southern he coached with Sanford and Son. Is that what you're saying? No, Sanford College? Is it Stanford or Sanford? Samford sam f O R D in

Florida? I believe so, Yeah, it might have been Stanford. No, it wasn't the Stanford Stamford, right, So you sure it was Sanford? Not stand because if it was Stanford, he'd still be there. Why would he still be there? I don't know he left he won a national title to Florida State. Didn't know. Jimbo Fisher is probably headed for the broadcast booth. I would think, well, making that kind of money, you can go to fifth third Bank. The only bank you'll ever need is

go to fifth third Bank and see Tracy Burge. He takes here of money there. Believe me. One hundred and sixty six thousand or one hundred and sixty six point seven percent well, I mean, every day he gets a proud sponsor of NASCAR races and ray Hole Letterman, Atlantic and Racing. I bet he never moves to Chicago Illinois starts paying those taxes. I don't think so He's gonna stay in tel The's no state taxes at income tax. Wow. Saved some tendance. It saved him seven to eight million dollars in his

pocket as opposed to the black hole of government spending Jimbo. Jimbo had some good lawyers and a good agent. I'm sure had them all. I mean, for that kind of money, he might have gone to LSU before Brian Kelly. So they redid his contract with the Aggies right, and all of a sudden, everything's guaranteed because they were certain he would be successful. Once again, the Rock has not showed up having lost, and I'm told that

the Notre Dame women's college basketball team lost by twenty points. The football team didn't play the women. Notre Dame women lost to South Carolina the other day. So really, Saint X Harrison, Notre Dame all collapsing, correct, Segon Man, get me out of the Stude report, Willia and utter of a cold day here at the tri State and even colder since the Bengals lost, and some country the women's soccer team is coming in one on Wednesday.

We need them, and congrats to Cincinnati Country Day and also Kings and Mercy McCauley for state champions coming in. They're coming in good. We leave you with the immortal words of the Stood Report as the final sixteen seconds will run off the clock. The weights is over and the UC Bearcats have their first ever Big twelve win in football. Our road wind is Houston. The final score of twenty four to fourteens. So Dan Horden was fifty to fifty with

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