1-9-24 Bill Cunningham Show

Quotas. That's quotas. Enter it now, Bill Cunningham, the Great America, welcome this war. It's Tuesday afternoon in the Tri State of weather prices may come to the Tri State later today or tomorrow, plus about a week from now, it's going to be a low of zero. So winns arriving big time. But as you may know, yes, I recall yesterday I had on Governor Mike Dwan for an extended period of time talking about the transgender

bill and also marijuana. And we have now the second most powerful man in the state of Ohio politically, that is Speaker of the House Jason Stevens. He controls the lower Chamber with an iron grip. There's ninety nine state representatives and the Republicans have a super majority. And according to my sources deep in the Capitol, there's going to be an effort tomorrow to override the veto, and then the Senate might be a week or ten days await. But let's

get all the facts. Speaker Jason Stevens, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, before we deal with marijuana, the Governor said yesterday that the main reason he vetoed the so called transgender bill. House Bill sixty eight dealt with the fact that he met with some family members whose daughter slash son was going through the process, and he looked them in the eye and he was told that if he didn't veto this bill, that somehow

their teenage boy or girl would commit suicide. And so the governor said that the deaths are on the line. And I said to the Governor, mister Speaker that you have Lieutenant Governor said you're wrong. Secretary of State said you're wrong, Attorney General said you're wrong. Treasurer said you're wrong. The Speaker of the House of Representatives, you said you're wrong. Most of the Republicans in the House say you're wrong. In fact, everywhere I look, people

say you're wrong. And he said he's going to do what he perceives to be right. So, first of all, can you tell the American people as we sit here this Tuesday afternoon, what is the status of the possibility of overriding the veto of Governor Mike dwain Well. Bill, I appreciate the opportunity to be on the on the show today, and you know we have sessions scheduled for tomorrow to two pm here in Columbus, and we will be

addressing the override of the veto there at the session. So outstanding, you know, Snowmageddon coming in or anything like that, we look for that to happen tomorrow. I would anticipate that you have whips that are walking around your caucus and saying, who's in, who's out? Are you on what degree between one to ten? Are you confident you'll have the votes to override the veto and the House of Representatives? Is it a one, which is you know, not very likely, or a ten very likely? Where are you

on the Richter scale? Oh? I think it's it's very likely. And you know this this issue was not terribly difficult to whip people, you know. And here's the thing is, the House is voted on this bill. We voted on back in June, passed it over to the Senate. The Senate modified it a little bit, and the same day that the Senate passed it back in December, you know, we voted it to the Governor's desk. So the House was voted on this issue twice before, and so you

know, both times well over sixty votes. And you know that's the threshold fifty nine or sixty, depending on who he asked. But I don't think it's it'll be over sixty. You know, when the V two override comes, can you tell the American people? Can you respond to the governor who said that I looked in the eyes of parents and teenage boys slash girls, and they told me that they would die commit suicide if I didn't do this. Now, you know, Mike de Wine's a family guy. I like

Mike. I've liked Mike for thirty years. I've caught some flak for that over the years for many hard rock ribbed conservatives, But nonetheless I like Mike de Wine. He's been to his I've been to his house, he's been to mind. We've broken break we talk. You know, he's a good guy. Well, how do you respond to his argument that he met with people who said if I didn't do this, somebody's going to die. I think there are you know, and I think this happens with a lot of

issues. There are good people on both sides of an issue. They just have a different way of solving an issue or dealing with the issue. And this is one that in the House we've dealt with for the past three years as far as having many, many witnesses on both sides of the issue. And you know, this House or this bill was vetted through committee. You know, we voted it in the House. It went through the whole entire

process. And I will remind folks this is the reason we have the committees, why we have testimony and the opportunity for people to hear, you know, what may be wrong or what may be right with any bill, but especially this bill. And I think it's important that this is a bill that helps to you know, empower parents and it protects children, and that is where we're at. And I think the you know, the members of the House have spoken loudly a couple of times on this bill, and we will

have the opportunity to do that again tomorrow. And you know, it's part of the political process and we will take that. And I think there's been a lot of consideration, but you know, it's it's something that I know our members still very strongly about that this bill needs to be in law. Well, the argument of Mike DeWine is one of conservatism by implication. He seems to be saying that mister Speaker, persons like you are somewhat insensitive when

it comes to parental rights and the government involved. He said, look, if the sixteen year old boy girl wants to begin hormonal therapy to become transgender, if the doctor says yes, it has to be done. If Children's Hospital in Cincinnati Piches the top in America and nationwide, and Cleveland Clintic, he's got all the big hospitals lined up with him. So he's got the hospitals, dwind does the doctors, he's got the parents, and he's got

the patient. And he makes the argument, who are you to step in between a parent and a teenager when it comes to medical care that the hospital and the doctors all say are reasonable and necessary. So can you respond to the argument that you're like a liberal all of a sudden in which you want government to make decisions for individuals and not parents and teenagers. Is that value?

I don't agree with that argument at all. I think there are plenty of cases as you look around in society, and we're talking about children here. We're not talking about adults. This is about children, and there are many cases, you know, whether it's you know other places in the law where kids have to go to school or you know, there's certain requirements that we that we put our protections, if you will, around children. And

I think it's an important it's an important part of raising our kids. Right. And so to say that you know, a parent can decide to you know, do whatever, you know their kid needs this, that or the other thing. I think it's when it comes to these types of life changing issues that will have ramifications well into adulthood that we should allow. You know, adults should be the ones making those decisions for their own selves, not a child of any age having that uh decision in some ways be made for

them by their parents. So speaker Stevens forward for me, you don't view yourself as a liberal. You don't view yourself as something that once government to make decisions, Uh, the mine set. It's up to the it's up to the patients and the doctors, not up to government to tell. And I said to the governor, look, you have all kinds of rules and the regulations Jehovah. Witnesses may say, you know, my kid can't get

a blood transfusion. You go to court to get the blood transfusion. There might be some parents who say, you know what, my kid's never going to be vaccinated against smallpox. Well to do a bunch of stuff, you got to get your childhood vaccination. A lot of parents say, my kid doesn't belong in a child safety seat. I believe in kids roaming around and making their own decisions. Well, government says you can't make that decision. You have to do that. So there's all kinds of things. But of

course DeWine said somehow this is different. Now, Speaker Stevens, did what happened on Friday change your view at all? Because Governor DeWine said on Friday issuing an executive order that I would imagine for everyone in the state of Ohio, you can't have surgical intervention until there's all kinds of procedures through hospitals or whatever be involved. Did that change your opinion at all? When Governor Mike DeWine added a little extra on Friday, Well, I think you know it

was a step in the right direction. But I think what's important to remember is is when the legislature puts it in, you know, it becomes part of its law, and you know, an executive order is just that, you know, depending on who's head of the executive branch that how that is implemented. So I think it's important for the law to be on the books and you know, as we work through the rules process, you know, that's part of you know, how we how we administer the laws. I

think that's important as well. But I do believe that having this state of Ohio that would tell an Ohio adult, that is, someone over eighteen that they cannot go through hormonal replacement and they or they can't have surgical change. Would you support a law for an adult Ohio one to be restricted and transgenderism when it comes to hormones and surgery? Would you support that or not?

Yeah, that's a great question. Bill. I think it's important that you know, people have their freedom to do what they want to, but also in these kind of situations, I think it's also important that they have to have some sort of you know, some sort of counseling and some sort of you know, the pros and the cons and all of that sort of thing before you know, adult makes that decision. I think that's you know,

the best practice of any kind of medical care. But you know, what we're talking about in this issue is, you know, it's about kids, It's about people eight under eighteen, and I think that is important. But you know, as you know, somebody forty years old that's you know, full grown and wants to do whatever. That's pretty much. You know, I'm pretty uh pretty. You know, it's America, right, You get to do what you want to do. You know, is we we we

say where I'm from. You know my unofficial our unofficial mottos, you're not the bossomy. So you know, once you get to that, once you get to that level that I think it's a much different question than what you know happens to a twelve or thirteen year old in this situation. Now. Secondly, Speaker Jason Stevens of the leader of the Ohio House of Representatives,

I spoke with the governor yesterday about marijuana. He was less than kind when it came to the House of Representatives, namely you and not acting more quickly when it comes to marijuana. He said, there's products being sold in gas stations that have allucinogenic effects that kids can buy. That give you an example. I had a county prosecutor tell me they went to the Bengals game against the Browns on Sunday and there was marijuana being smoked in the smoking section.

Wherever you can smoke a cigarette, you can smoke marijuana. And that was upsetting to some and so we have basically little or no rules when it comes to marijuana. You can smoke marijuana right now in Ohio. You can grow marijuana from from seed to joint. It takes about three to four months, however, but you cannot actually legally buy it. And the governor wants you to act quickly? Will you heed the governor's call? Well, I will.

I will say this. I've been to a Bengals game before the uh before before the marijuana was legalized, and you can certainly smell it in the parking lot before as well. So you know, these are things that have happened well before. You know, the legalization was voted upon, and I think what's important is is it's balancing the you know, the will of people. Fifty seven percent of the people voted for it. It's something that you know, as you get into the details of the law, you know that

was voted on. You know there's a lot of runway, if you will, before it can be sold as recreational. It's all the way up until June before people can't even apply and for a license to sell it, and it's not issued until September, maybe even October, so there is some time

to deal with that. What I think is important and what we've tried to do in the House is to be very deliberative on what are we actually doing, because here's the thing, in my opinion, if we if you know, marijuana is going to be legal in Ohio, recreational marijuana, But what is important is to have that business structure done in a way so that it's done effectively, because if the business ructure of the recreational marijuana is not done

correctly, you know, the black market is going to grow anyway, right or if you have the tax rate be so high that nobody's going to want to buy legal marijuana, they'll either drive to Michigan or they'll do it on their own. And I think some of those issues, you know, we can deal with either through the rule making process or you know, taking time

to look at it. And even even within the Republican caucus too, we have a wide array of what people's opinions are all the way from you know, they voted to know and want to ban it forever to you know it should be legal, you know, as legal as can be, I guess. So really coming to that conclusion and coming to that consensus to change a law that the voters voted on, you know, I would rather err on

the side of being more deliberative and taking our time. And you know, we've had legalized marijuana, I guess for over a month now in Ohio, and you know, we're still you know, the sun still comes up, and we still want to deal with that. But there's still plenty of time to address the issue and legislatively addressing it at this point, you know, I'm sure you know, as time goes on, you know, every GA in the future, there'll probably be tweaks to the industry and that sort of

thing. But to do an absolute overhaul within you know, a few minutes after the people have spoken, I think being deliberative about that and getting consensus from all sides is more important than hurrying up and pushing something through that may be more harmful than good. So, Speaker, you're saying that Governor says get it done now or in February, there's an article in the enquire about how slow this is going. You're saying, this likely we'll not already done.

Well, it's already done. The people spoke in November. And it's not that it's not done. I mean that would be my point is it is done. It's just what needs to be done to change it. And I think some of the issue as far as the debate that we've had is what to do with the tax revenue. And you know, the way the legislation was written, it was it was more written towards you know, state

bureaucrats being the ones that kind of administer the money. This is a general statement whereas you know, if I was wanting to change shit, I would think it would be more important that the local communities, you know, where the where the stuff is sold, should be the ones receiving the tax money

and not not the bureaucracy in Columbus. So that's been some of our conversation, you know, behind the scenes, is what's best because if the local communities are generating that tax revenue and they're going to have to deal with whatever the fallout may be, that they should be the ones who control where that money is spent. Now, lastly, about a minute remaining, Speaker Jason Stevens Ohio House representatives, the abortion issue passed over many of our objections.

But nonetheless, the people have spoken. And I had on all the great debates on Issue one, back and forth, fifty seven percent said abortion on demand all the way up and through birth. That's the way it is. And some said that during the debate, well, this doesn't affect parental notification, this doesn't affect the fetal tissue remains issue, it doesn't affect the sonogram.

And I'm thinking, wait a minute, when I read Issue one, it seemed to wipe those things completely away, as a speaker of the House, with state Issue one, which is abortion on demand forever through birth, do those other aspects of the Statutes of Ohio remain when it comes to parental consent notification, fetal tissue disposal, et cetera, or all those things done? You know, really is that is going to probably be up to the courts to figure out the details of each one of those as how it applies

to the to the new constitutional amendment. You know, I don't have any intention. I don't believe the Republican Caucus has any intention to remove any of those laws from the books. So I think, you know, over time, those will be tested in the courts. And I think also over time, you know, we will see the impacts of this constitutional amendment and you know we'll we will have to deal with those as a society really and you know, well we will. You know, it's just one of those things

where you have to say, we'll see. But really, you know, as sore as the legislature dealing with the issue, I think it's it will it will be sometime in the very distant future that before we will have to address that because most of those issues will go through the courts. Uh, you know, over the next several years, I would, I would guess, and we'll see how those work out. Speaker Jason Stevens hah Ohio House of Representatives, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and responding to

what the governor said yesterday. Speaker, thank you very much, absolutely, thank you, Bill, have a great day. Thank you. Let's continue with more line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand. There you have it all on news radio seven hundreds that ULW Do you know how much one thousand dollars in Coin's Way by Billy Cunningham, the Grand American of course in eighteen ninety nine, during the last couple

of years of the William McKinley administration. As Western Southern was flourishing in the riverboat business and more, a tennis tournament started I think at Coney Island and it's been going continuously since eighteen ninety nine. And big news were announced a couple of months ago and John Barrett, Now yesterday some more news came out. John Barrett, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And John the Cincinnati Opened. Explain how that name came together? Who will it be presented

by? And I know the sacrifice Western Southern made in order to take the name off, which is this tennis tournament's like your baby, like your third child. But nonetheless, talk if you can tell the American people had the name come about, and how are things going with the tennis tournament now? Sure? Actually, if our name couldn't be on it, this is the

name we hoped would be on it. And we actually pitched the Bimont Capital people with calling it Cincinnati Opened. There was discussion of calling it the Midwestern

and I said, no, don't do that. We used to have a Midwestern also, But I said, if you're going to try for sponsorship, the Cincinnati companies want to sponsor Cincinnati named things, and you know, everything that we've worked on with the Bemont folks has seemed to work out the way we we hoped it would or recommended it would, and we were They've been very open to our input, which we really appreciate. While we hate giving

up the ownership and everything, you know, title sponsorship and everything. They're going to have an awful lot of money invested in this tournament. It'll be in half being in range over the next three years or so, and they deserve to do what they want to do with it. However, I think that by making the Cincinnati open, it's much more likely to have other great companies in this area free to invest in it because it's not the Western Southern

you know what I mean, it's all of our tournament. And as far as the uh, the changes when you go up and down seventy one, you can see a lot of stuff going on. However, Uh, the dates have been said, it's going to be two weeks, gonna be a couple, it's gonna be a it's going to be a two week event. It's going to be unbelievable, and uh, Cocoa Golf. I assume is going to come back to defend her title, and who knows about the joker,

He may be going for something special. And uh, and yeah, all of all of them, by contract, all of the stars had to appear in nine tournaments and this is one of the nine in the world. It's the sort of their deal. They so they'll all be there. They'll all be there. And the most important thing is by being one of these masters one thousand series tournaments, you get like the top fifty men in the top twenty women by contract, and that will expand and this tournament's can double

in size and have like one hundred and ninety six entrance. That's a whohole bunch of players. Yeah, and as far as yeah, go ahead. You said something about three or four weeks ago, which is stuck with me, and that we live here, we were born here of city government, county government, the fighting, the arguing, the squabbling, things of that character. But you said Cincinnati is a small major city that has all the

accoutiments of a New York, Los Angeles and Chicago without the downside. So when you traveled, can you explain that again to the American because we missed the big picture. Sometimes we live way above our means considering we're, you know, a two point four million person metro area, which is good size, but it's not ten or twelve or twenty and so we have world class arts, restaurants, entertainment. We're lucky that we live in a beautiful terrain.

Man, the glacier stopped here and left these hills the river. But I think the big thing about it and we got, like, what the second best airport in the world physically, yeah, misbrate that and the best United States behind one. I think in Helsinki. We've got so many things here that are so good and so good to build upon. You just heard that the old bantive part of Fifth Third is going to be relocating here from Jacksonville, Florida. What a win, huge, and kudos to the folks

got that done. Ge Aircraft, which is the survivor of the Ge the three Ge breakups, looks like it's going to be right here, right here in River City. That is a big deal. That's a fortune one hundred company. You've got P and G, which they don't get any flag than that. Kroger's the biggest retail of groceries. I think in the world. I mean, you go through this list. What has held our city back has been parochial views of the world. Our banks. Now I look back

on from the biggest mistakes. The old Star Bank in fifth Third should have been merged. We would now have a giant there instead of just fifth third. US Bank is downsized what they had here. We over the years wanted to get together with Ohio National and Union Central and create a big juggernaut of life company. That didn't happen. You know, we've lost so many We've lost Federaid, We've lost mercantil stores, We've lost USU and our machine tool

industry. In nineteen fifty we're the headquarters of the world with fifty machine tool companies. Now we have won. So you say why, It's because we we were a city state and we didn't we knew how good we had it. We didn't appreciate the importance of continuing to invest in yourselves just to always be state of the art. John Barrett, Yeah, CEO, what worries you long term? Because I think about taxes, I think about crime,

I think about the cost of public education in the city. Is there something when you when you put your feet up and at the end of a hard day of work and you kind of think, well, the Barretts and the Williamses have been here, the Castellanies for one hundred and fifty years, and you're going to be here in another one hundred and fifty years. What kind of worries you about? You go over the list of things that we've lost, a lot of things we've won. What kind of worries you in the

next ten to twenty years? More than anything talk radio and cable news that keep everybody at each other's throats. Actually, I think my biggest fear worry is that the lack of depth in our political discussions, the lack of depth and the people who want to run for office, the lack of quality discussion

when there are issues. Those things bother me. And as America changes and evolves, we are still by far the place everybody wants to be everybody, and for us to stay that way, we've got to continue to innovate and try things and do things right and not get stuck on somebody's whim of the moment. You know what I mean? We have many If I look back, I remember, for the longest time in business, everybody talked about management by objective blah blah blah blah blah blah. And I thought to myself,

that's just common sense. Right. We don't hear that at all anymore. But for ten years that's all the consultants sold. Are you concerned about increased income taxes? If city council right now the county commissioners are squabbling, but nonetheless city council, are you worried about them? Increasing income taxes might not be a bad thing, Willie, It would be a bad thing. What I would say is the politicians can ruin a city and drive people out.

Ask the people of New York, Chicago, San Francisco if those situations weren't truly exacerbated by horrible political management. Yeah, absolutely, and we have we I won't say that we've got the best in the world, but we haven't been quite that dumb, unfortunately. But we might be going the wrong way

on that. We've got to be careful about that, right, because anybody could easily move to Kenton County. I know mister Linder twenty five thirty years ago talked about going to Boone County, taking his operations out of Cincinnati. He said, I just can't do it. He didn't, And government can chase business away and it begins the culture. Well, we bought three hundred

acres out by the airport. It's beautiful. Our hope is that we get other people from out of town to come in and we develop headquarters and top flight operations centers for them there. But it's always one of those things where you say, you know, if it gets so bad, there are are options, right right. It's nothing that we would do easily. Nothing we do easily, but why would we ever want to only if the place becomes untenable. Well, hopefully it's up to the politicians to an extent and make

sure that doesn't have happened. But the Cincinnati Open eighteen ninety nine, McKinley in office. Here we are I think Joe Biden was born a couple of days before he took office in eighteen ninety nine. Now Biden's in office and hopefully for the next twenty five years minimum that the Western and Southern Open has now become the Cincinnati Open, and he'll be here for decades to come. Once again, John Barrett Ramsey's the second thank you again this Tuesday, afternoon

for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Willie Ben Nabarrow's crowd has agreed to twenty five more years. I mean, it's unbelievable and thank you for your support. And I think the whole city, the whole community, the whole region is behind this tournament and will be for a long long time. I'll say this, I'll be here in twenty five years. If you promised to be here in twenty five years. Everything I can possibly do to ensure that

will be done. All right, John Barrett, thank you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and hunker down the next few days is going to be colder than a weld diggers behind in about a week, but somehow we'll get through it. John Barrett, thank you very much once again for coming this Tuesday afternoon. You're Will Huntingham Show. Thank you, John,

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Should? Call Steve Perrin Junior Today five one, three, seven, six nine thirty one thirty one, seven sixty nine thirty one thirty one. Do you have water in your basement, standing water in your yard? Or structural in nuts? Also, one of the principles of politics is when you're all Democrats or all Republicans, have no one to fight with of the opposite party, you simply fight with each other. And you just heard that from from

the Speaker of the House, Stevens. Relative to what's going on now with your good friend of mine, Mike DeWine, and that they generally are on the same page. But you can't fight with Republicans because you can't find any in Columbus and state government. So therefore you fight with each other. We'll see what happens. Also, on the County commission you may have heard Alisha Reese on this morning with Scott Sloan, and unnecessarily Stephanie Dumas took some serious

shots at Alisha Reese. The president of the County Commissioner is largely it is a ceremonial position. So at this particular event yesterday, Alisha Reese had her husband, Steve I'm sorry, had her father Steve, had family members, had ministers there. It was kind of a ceremonial deal. So Stephanie Dumas said she could not vote for Alisha Reese. Fellow Democrats. She said, I look at what makes a great leader, and a great leader, every

voice counts. We provide positive guidance, We lead by example. You're honest, you're transparent, you're humble, you're unselfish, you collaborate, you're compassionate, you're a good listener, you respect the opinions of others. You're not argumentative, and you're a team player. This is the implication that all those things she discussed, Alisha Reese is not And at the end of it, Alisiha Reese said, I guess I have to defend myself. If I didn't

know any better. I think it's a personal attack on my character. And this was done at a ceremonial fund and reading the important aspect of public speak. The Roar Insurance Agency has been meet Climate Science Coalition of America, an author of four great books on energy, climate change, and sustainable development, over one hundred thousand in print. And Steve's book The Green Breakdown came out in August and after the last four or five months it's the best seller.

And Steve Gorham first of all in twenty twenty four, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. I have so much to talk with you about. But the first thing is this I met. I referenced to off the air that I read over New Year's and I'm reading into this column, which is by the way, quite and it references the fact that the planet is dying. The woman's name is Anna Lee. She's an intern at CNN, and she says, if temperatures weren't rising. I choose the name Athena for a girl.

If the rivers are safe, I'd choose William for a boy. If I could breathe clean air on my morning commute, I'd paint the nursery a warm yellow. She goes on to say that she and Oliver gen Z buddies those born between nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve are done having children because the planet is dying. Were all going to be dust in the wind. May I get your reaction first? Yeah, Happy New Year, Bill, Great to join you again. That's just such a very, very sad situation.

We've had only one degree of warming since one degree celsius since eighteen eighty one hundred and forty years. Have been many times in the past when it's been warmer. She's worried about her air being clean, But the air is the cleanest there in probably eighty or one hundred years. We used to be burning coal in furnaces and homes. And there's just no evidence that her not having a child is going to have any effect on the climate. And all the

other young people that are misguided about these issues. Well, and one other point in this column is that forty percent. This isn't a fringe idea. Among child bearing women forty percent in the University of bath I think that's In England study, forty percent said that they will not have children because there's no future, no children. And among them, eighteen year old Emma Lynn said quote, I'm giving up my dream of being a mother. I'm not going

to necessarily kill my own children. It's like, it's just it's terrible. She won't have enjoyed the family. And when she gets to be seven years old and realizes that the climate hasn't been destroyed, she'll have no family. I mean, it just is very, very and we have all these leaders running around the world spouting this stuff. It's just crazy. I mean an example is John Kerrey at the recent COP twenty eight climate conference. He said

we should we shouldn't allow a coal plant anywhere in the world. And that's just a just a radically crazy statement. The world gets thirty five percent of its electricity right now from cold fired power plants. We have four thousand of those plants out there, another a thousand are being built, are in planning. Yet we have an electricity shortage around the world seven hundred people don't have access to electricity. We have another two billion that have blackouts or brownouts every

day or every other day. We have hundreds of hospitals that don't have electricity. If you can imagine that, no air conditioning, no electricity for an operating room, and mister Kerrey's running around saying we got to get rid of all the electricity plants. I mean, it just is remarkable and very very sad. It injures people, not only this woman in a wealthy nation, but all the people in poor nations around the world. Where does this come

from, Steve Going, Where does it come from? I think almost like an indoctrination. If somebody had been in Clyde Gay's classes at the Harvard before she became president for a few weeks and then lost her job. The radicalism is unbelievable. It's almost as if when kids come out of college, we have to have like a deep programming school. We have to do something to get these children away from the indoctrination. But the first step has got to

be to stop the indoctrination. Any hope of that. I want to talk about air conditioning, but tell me about this, well, Leo, the phrases climatism. Climatism is an ideology. It's very powerful. It's the belief that humans are causing dangerous global warming. It's spouted by all the political leaders in the world, and it ought to be called what it is. It's

a powerful ideology, and unfortunately people believe this. This is a big the biggest superstition in modern history, that a trace gas is causing dangerous global warming, and it's just captured most everyone. It's very, very unfortunate. And the world is spending about a trillion dollars a year and they want to spend four or five trillion a year on renewables to try and try and stop the planet from warming. But that isn't going to have any effect. Global warming

continues to be dominated by natural factors, not man made emissions. And as far as I can recall as a child, I live in little Cincinnati, Ohio, and Cincinnati is like in a bowl. Cincinnati is like the basin, and on either side are the hills of Kentucky and then the rise of Ohio to the north, and in the middle is the city of Cincinnati. I can specifically recall smog or smoke, whatever you want to say. On

the basin of Cincinnati. As a child, you can look out over from the University of Cincinnati, look down on Cincinnati into Covington, Kentucky, and there'd be a permanent haze there in the wintertime, a permanent haze. And my mother tells me about the horses, the cows, the mules dropping feces, thousands and thousands of mosquitoes and flies, people walking in it. Living

in a small for three to five months every year. Because of the coal fired power plants, the coal was delivered from the strait into the basement, then put into the furnaces. Can you Amaine? And that's the way it is the most of the world, correct, But not in America. Yeah, our pollutions down about ninety eight percent since the nineteen fifties. My grandfather had a coal furnace in his basement and he did the same thing. And in Chicago, after four or five days in the winter, after it snowed,

you'd see a black film of coal dust. And all these young folks who think the air so terrible, does they don't know what spring cleaning was for. Literally, in the nineteen fifties, everybody in the spring would wash the inside of their walls in their houses to take off the coal dust.

Driving past Gary, Indiana and a film covered our windows, we had to stop and wipe off our windows from the steel mills, or driving into southern California through the Mojave Desert in the nineteen sixties and watching the smog roll up the desert. Our era is very very clean nowadays, and we need to

continue to reduce that. By the way, We've done a terrific job, and that's because we put the scrubbers on our coal plants, and our volatile organic compounds out of automobile exhaust are down ninety eight percent since the nineteen seventies. So our era is very very clean. But now everybody's doing handsprings over carbon dioxide, which isn't the pollutant in any case. So we admit about everybody breeds out about two pounds of carbon dioxide every single day and it makes

the plants grow. So this is completely completely haywire that we have all these government leaders running around spouting things. You know, do you hear what this is? Clinton said to Hillary Clinton, she wants to it. She learned from COVID when every day we were posting deaths around the world every single day.

You could see it on the internet. Well, she wants to start posting climate deaths now and because there's been some heat waves, but she doesn't realize, guess what, we're having fewer deaths because warm temperatures are better for

people. So but you know, it just goes on and on. Well, there was a story we got to talk about the what we're headed for in the green breakdown, But there was a story in the Wall Street Journal about Ford dealers having you spend a half a million to a million dollars each to become e compliant with Ford. And the Ford dealers are almost in rebellion because they can't sell evs. Explain what's happening there, because that's part of the green breakdown. I think, yeah, they're having a revolt. The

Ford dealers don't want to sell evs. GM has done a different thing. They're doing a buyout on all their dealers that don't want to do it because they want to force this on everybody. But it's no doubt electric vehicles have hit a speed mump. Inventories are up over three hundred percent at these these dealers. Ford Motor is losing forty to sixty thousand dollars on each EV sold. We have the price of used electric vehicles has dropped thirty percent in the

last year thirty percent. And oh, by the way, the federal government keeps pouring money into this. You know, there's a subsidy of up to seven thousand dollars if you buy an EV our tax dollars a tax credit, and then if you buy a used one, there's another up to four thousand dollars subsidy, and if that's sold again, there's another federal subsidy. I mean, it just goes on and on and on. Here. This crazy idea that if we all drive electric vehicles we can stop the oceans from rising

sounds like Obama. Well again, it's this part of this big misconception, the superstition. And by the way, hey, in Cincinnati or in Chicago, it's cold weather and a real tough to charge your EV right now, particularly outside. You got to run your you got to hit your garage all within it, which isn't very very cost effective if you want to charge your EV. Let's talk about the green breakdown that lies ahead, and part of your book deals with Okay, we're going to have a come to Jesus moment,

and what do you see coming? Twenty twenty four is here? What do you see coming between now and twenty thirty. Yeah, so the world is driving for a thing called zero by twenty fifty. They want to get rid of all the coal, oil and natural gas. They want to force a way to drive electric vehicles, and they want get everybody to use electric stoves instead of gas stoves. But we're already seeing a breakdown. I was

predicting maybe a decade out, but we're seeing some of this now. Offshore wind in the East Coast, about half of those projects say they can't make money and they've pulled out. In Germany, Zeeman's Wind Energy just got a ten billion euro bailout from the German government. We have this ev speed bump

slow down, as we talked about. If you look at these stock markets, the Rennicks Industry Rennix index of the world's top renewable energy stocks, these things have been down three years in a row now, the renewable energy companies, and they continue to fall, and so you know, we're starting to see a problem. Despite all these efforts of governments to push all this stuff, the economics and the market factors are winning out and we're going to see

a green breakdown. People are going to demand a return to low cost, reliable energy. They don't want to put up with higher electricity prices, they don't want to put up with electricity blackouts and the other problems that this transition is causing. Steve Gorm on one of the morning talk shows, there was an expert that said, we're pumping more oil and natural gas than ever before. There was an environmentalist there who said, you know what, that is

a total, complete disaster. The indoctrination of the young, I think is complete. But as far as going forward, assuming that this breakdown does occur, and I look what's happening around the world, and something's got to give because people not continue to pay four or five hundred dollars a month in electricity bills they can't afford an ev minimum wage increases are heribled as if that's the

most you can ever make. And so looking down the road, when this morning we heard that we're pumping more oil and gas than ever and that's causing problems among the so called greens with Joe Biden, but as far as why is that happening in a climate in which he has at this point cut off so many permits. Is this is it a good I think it's a great thing for pumping oil and gas. In fact, that we had more, the price would even come down further. But how the green movement wants to

know is Joe Biden on their side or on normal people side? What would you say about the pumping of all this oil. Well, everybody wants to be green until it hits their pocketbook, and it tends to be a big issue of the price of gasoline. It's still up a dollar and a half since when Trump left office, and mister Biden has done a lot of things to try and stop permit and stopped drilling. But on the other hand, you know, he's kind of concerned about that. And so we are the

biggest producer of oil. We're the biggest producer of natural gas in the world, and the biggest exporter of liquified natural gas, the biggest exporter of propane. We literally kept the lights on in Europe last winter. They would have had a blackout's all over the continent if we weren't shipping them liquified natural gas. And so these are really good things for people. It keeps their prices low. But we have a bunch of places that are going to suffer.

New England is one of those. They have blocked pipeline building through New York State to the east to the New England states for many, many years. England is now importing a bunch of liquified natural gas at high world prices and winter utility bills. Energy bills cost over one thousand dollars fro an average size house in New England. And we're going to see We're going to see blackouts

there we get a real cold winter. So far, it hasn't been the case this winter and last winter either, but people are going to say, hey, enough of this. I don't want to see that the solar farm next to my house. I don't want to see those wind turbines blinking on and off. I want to hold on to my internal combustion engine car. And I don't want to have to get a heat pump that doesn't work in cold weather. Despite what all these leaders say, do you see di lithium

crystals described in Star Trek? How long will it be before we have like this unlimited amount of energy? Maybe it's cold nuclear fusion. I think Toyota is going the right way when it comes to hybrids. But nonetheless, at what point are we going to say, boy, we have dilithium crystals, everything's free, everything's available. How many decades will that take? Our centuries? Yeah, well, there are some possible, possible technological advances that could

occur. A nuclear right now is too expensive. It needs some breakthroughs and costs, but there are opportunities there, possibly with small modular reactors or molten salt react Geothermal is another possible place where we could come up with some things, but it's very, very tough to beat the low cost of natural gas, the fuels that come from petroleum. Today, ninety one percent of world transportation vehicles come from fuels from petroleum, another four percent from natural gas,

only three percent from biofuels, in about one percent from electricity. So these hydrocarbons continue to dominate their transportation. They also dominate all of our heavy industries, steel, plastic, cement, ammonia, and it's going to be decades and decades before these things are replaced, if ever. Now, well, the book is the Green Breakdown, and I would encourage all young women to get married. I'd encourage young men to lead a wonderful girl and form a

family life, have children. Don't be filled with fear. This came out of money, because whenever there's an issue, follow the money. There's so much money involved. And the so called green energy. All of us are against pollution, but all of us want cheap, reliable energy. I don't like pollution, and the pollution problem and developed countries have largely been solved. It's taking care of the rest of the world. And once again, Steve

Gorm, thank you. And how do you get your book The Green Breakdown? How does that happen? Yeah, I think go to my website. I'll send a signed copy Steve Gorham g O R E H A M dot com. It's also on Amazon and there are ebooks as well. Steve Gorm, you're the best on this topic. And once again, let's start to new year off right by having Steve Gorm on The Bill Cunningham Show. And Steve, thank you very much for coming on. Thank you. Bill.

Let's continue with more. Do you like your electricity, you like air conditioning, you like gas heat, you like gas cooking? Get rid of the radicals. Bill Cunningham with you every afternoon on News Radio seven hundred WLW. Hey, were you forced into a noselead mortgage rate in the past year? Loan Pronto was here for you. Hey, it's Eddie denying this. Working for NBC and doing football games is helps me immeserably. As an example, and I don't mean to drop names, but just to give you an example

of what happened to me over the weekend. Last Friday, I talked for forty five minutes with Pete Rose, which will appear on Headfirst. Flew to Los Angeles. As soon as I got to Los Angeles, we got in the car and drove to Oxnard, California, which is where the Los Angeles Raiders work out. I talked with al Davis for three hours. I talked with Tom Floyes for an hour and a half. Said Lord to Lyle Alzado. Chris Barr talked to Jim Plunkett. And I'm not dropping names. I'm

just telling you this is the nature of my business. Yeah, this is the nature of my business. Yeah, this is the nature of my business. So you hear opinions from other people. That was Friday. Saturday. I get up walk down to the Hyatt Regency in downtown Los Angeles, have a cup of coffee with Don Shula, talk to him for about an hour and a half, shoot the breeze, get out to the ballpark. I

spoke with Danny Thomas. He was at the game and had just seen Don Crickie and I do a broadcast and shot the breeze with him for a little bit. I talk with Al Lokasal Paul Zimmerman. I saw last weekend of Sports Illustrated. So the people I come in contact with are my biggest source of information. I listen more than I talk. When I travel here, I talk on the air, I talk, but all the rest of the time I do an awful lot of listening. Hello, Hello, quiet,

and I'm Scots. I'm broadcasting Willie. I don't want to drop any names. Yeah, but I run around with Segman, Dennison, Sheriff, Dave, Jen Mottley, DJ Hodge, Tony Bender, Scott Reinhart, Joe Frederick, Joe Frederick. I run around with those guys. Who do you run around with? Matt Reese. Let's say a few other people. I think about Sandy, Brian Combe, Yeah, Brian Combe, everybody, Deniso, everybody. Yeah, you know a few people Yeah, Dave hit the music

Tom Weedman and Sists be Paid played along with George Hurst hit it. Oh damn, I think this is the number one hit in Columbus today, don't you think? Yeah, well, probably have. They probably don't even mention the score. You know that there was even a game last night because the first time is nineteen forty seven that Michigan has won and national title by itself. In ninety seven they shared it was a beauty contest with Nebraska, so supposedly the long time, a long time, long time Willie, one of

the best gps of the country. Fennix looks the other rucks to down a scene accepted by sadras So. Mikey Sandristill has a couple of blockers a time boy NICs again set up inside the turn. Bucky Sadristoom, the biggest player this defense night. Look how tight this coverage is, and he decides to put it in. He does, having Doonsday back here and he never looked for him. Instead, he tries to squeeze it in the coverage, even to the right flat the tight end. Jack Westover is open. It's almost

a checkdown. At least would have had maybe a chance but instead he tries to throw a Hail Mary into Jalen McMillan. All right, seg man, all give me some sports and make it fast. The stood reporters of Prompt service of her local temp Star heating and air conditioning dealers temp Star. Oh of you could feel in Cincinnati colech Schmid, he'd he goet cool. He get five to one three five three one sixty nine hundred spots. Did you

watch the game? Segment? Did you watch the game? I watched the first quarter when Donovan Edwards rushed for those two touchdowns, and I said, good night, Irene. He ran down to the left side of the field. He went down to the right side of the field, almost untouched, and it was like, Uh, it's gonna be big Blue. And I'm

not talking about uk Is Harball gone. I don't know they's gone. Well, I guess he's you know, I mean, what else he's got to do at Michigan Nothing, So I guess he's now off to the highest bidder in the National Football League. They have six openings plus more. Segment, Right, please give us sports and make it fast. Also, Willie, we thank Lear's Prime Market for our lunch today. For the finest meats trust a Lear's prime market full catering service to Deluxe Delhi, located there in beautiful

downtown Milford. Lears dot com is the site and you are right. But first, good news. Willie Bengals offensive lineman Ted Carris is the winner of the twenty twenty three Nationwide Charity Challenge Walter Payton Man of the Year Fan Vote. So that means Nationwide will be awarding thirty five thousand dollars to Kearris's charity, The Village of MERCEREESI how many other Bengals have received that award? The only one, Ted Carris. What about Reggie Williams, Well not, he

didn't. This was the fan vote, so this was totally different. How about so he's not the water pace right, correct, it's a fan vote. Well then, so, but did he get the award or not? No, he got the charity challenge. It's the fan vote part of it. It's separate, big deal, the big deal, see yes, right. Pittsburgh Steelers say defensive star TJ. Watt is out for Sunday in the wild card game against Buffalo with a knee injury. The Tennessee Titans about forty

f five minutes ago fired head coach Mike Rabel after six seasons. He was the NFL Coach of the Year in twenty twenty two, but the Titans went to six and eleven this year. They were going to try to trade him, but they said that's going to take too long. So see you, that's exactly what they said. The Titans said, Rabel is out. Well

that's a six opening so far, hallball, we'll get one. But Michigan, according to Tom Weedman, has offered him one hundred and twenty five million dollar, ten year contract, one hundred and twenty five million at Michigan paid for by the faithful. Well maybe, well that'll be unbelievable. They're any backwood Rabel that may be headed to New England if they do something with Belichick. Apparently, big twelve home opener tonight for those Cincinnati Bearcats will ye up

there in Clifton, twenty fifth rank Texas Longhorns in town. The two teams have met only twice previously, in the NCAA Tourney nineteen sixty three and twenty twenty two. Twenty one. You see, of course, coming off that big win on the road Saturday at BYU six thirty airtime right here on seven hundred WLW. And don't forget tomorrow night, Connecticut to defending national chair number four. That's right, Savior, that is correct tomorrow night at the Sintas

Senna and NKU and Oakland tomorrow night. Also, so Willie, we say congrats to Holy Cross senior Julia Hunt. She has been named the twenty twenty three twenty four Gatorade Kentucky Volleyball Player of the Year. Yes, she's a nation's eleven She's a number eleven recruit, rated than the nation's best eleventh rated recruit. She's six foot two, a middle blocker with six hundred and seventy eight kills, and she can jump out of the gime. I put her

in basketball. She also plays basketball. Average is like thirteen points a game. Get her on the court. Let's see what else is going on here? What about pitchers and catchers? When do they report about what? Over the Reds Reds. The Reds caravan is starting up here in a couple of weeks, So that's that's the first sign. And then probably a month after that, Uh, pitchers and catchers report, and then before you know it, we wake up tomorrow to be opening day against those Washington Nationals. I'm

getting my speech together already. That's good. And then let's see what else. Oh, oh, the Brian Brian Callahan. Uh, the Carolina Panthers want to talk to him about their head coaching job. And the Raider. The Raiders want to talk to Bengals senior executive Trey Brown in regards to their opening general manager post. Not Troy, not Troy, but Trey Brown. I thought Troy was up for that. No, it's Trey Troy, not Troy. So. And then Georgia, you know, they just crowned the

Michigan the national champs. Will he Georgia has been installed as a favorite to win next year's national title, the first to be decided by a twelve team playoff. The Bulldogs are listed at seventeen to four. Alabama's next at six to one, with the Ohio State University Buckeys eight to one. Really, so next year he got twelve teams in, there'll be a couple buys to play it off. That means a whole bunch of teams would have been in.

But I think this year Michigan was marked with a sign of greatness about it. They beat Ohio State, they beat Alabama, who beat Georgia, and then they kicked the crap in the National championship game against Washington. Nobody was going to be Washington. No one was going to beat Michigan this year. In fact, I bleed Michigan blue right now, and also Willie, we say congrats with Michigan. Jesse Mintter, their defensive coordinator, the son

of former Cincinnati Bearcats head coach Rick Minner. What's Rick Minner doing? Now? You know what? I don't know. You gotta check it out. I don't know, but Jesse Mintor. Is Pittsburgh having Buffalo this weekend without t J. Watt? Nothing that's like. That's like the Bengals having about a chance to make the playoffs without Joe Burrow. Of course they can't close. But not good, not no cigar. Well, Joe had his big news conference yesterday. I imagine he's getting ready. He said he's gonna be

ready by O t A. So's see what happens. Well, I'll believe it when I see it. You know, we'll see what happens. And you know, so he's fragile, very fragile. They just gotta they got to put a concrete wall around him, so nobody gets to him next next season Appendix calf, knee, wrist. What's next? Hopefully nothing like he's I think he's got everything that you know and that you know. I think

he's got everything in uh, in the in the game of operation. And how by this segment, the Bengals spent more money in the off season then the other four teams in the Central Division combined. And they spent more money in the off season than the New York Yankees. Uh. The Reds spent about one hundred and five hundred and ten million dollars right in the off season. Yep, and that pales in comparison to the Dodgers, who spent over

a billion dollars for two players. Well, we'll see what happens on that and Willy, you know, I mean, hopefully it'll all work out maybe for the Dodgers, and when the Reds play them, they'll beat them. Well, I would say this that the Reds may be the favorite to win the division. Is that possible because Milwaukee's no better. Cubs spent no money in the off season. Carden was a little bit, but not much. They were terrible as pirates are doing nothing nothing. Well, what if the

Reds are picked to win the division? Would you be in a state of shock? Uh? Yeah, I mean with with the way I mean, Milwaukee lost a lot of people and they they I mean even their manager left for the Cubs. I mean, you know, it's like, wait a minute, what I mean that's like that's like you know, somebody getting That's like somebody you know going from the the Reds manager going to Cleveland or something. Right, So, I don't know, but I mean, you know,

we'll see what happens. The pundits will probably not pick Cincinnati, but they got to be up there. But I mean, you know, with the youth of the team and what they did last year, I mean what they lost two years ago, they lost one hundred games, and you're thinking the world's come to an end. And then all of a sudden, what they do eighty two and eighty and it was like, hey, this is pretty good. I wonder what the over under is for the Reds wins this

year? Do you know? I don't know, I haven't seen anything yet. Let me ask. I'm still talk to Siri. What's the over under Reds wins in twenty twenty four? Will. He's what I found. Oh, I'm gonna check this out. As as they say four odds twenty four teams, Yeah, they have an over under this says eighty three. Well that's pretty good. That is pretty good win. How about the Dodgers win

total one hundred and three Atlanta's one hundred and two. Well that those are the two benchmarks right there of the National League, Atlanta and Los Angeles. They're just gonna, you know, they're just going to try to outspend each other every year. How about this. The Cubs over under is eighty five, Saint Louis is eighty five, the Reds are eighty three. Don't you know what it's It's much like the AFC North this year, what three out

of four teams make it? And the Bengals were just right there and they finished the last place. But they're right on the cusp of a of a playoff shot at nine and eight, and a lot of other teams in the NFC are in at nine and eight. Right, Yeah, I think for say, the Cubs are scheduled to be first, Saint Louis second, right, Red third. Oakland A's hav an over under a fifty five wins. That means they have to lose what a one hundred and seven fifty good luck

at good good luck to them. Didn't they leave Oakland or No, not yet. I don't think they've leaved left Oakland yet. I don't think so, so I don't know. Good luck to them. The Reds are getting a little bit of prop right here, segmentod that's a good thing. Well then you know out west, well you gotta you know. I mean, look what happened. The Dodgers won big this year, and what they do They lost to the Arizona Diamondbacks nothing and the Diamondback the Diamondbacks added right like,

just like the Dodgers did the Giants. The Giants have done nothing nothing. Give me out of the Stuege Report. We have Ken Heck and Lively coming up about the DEI diversity con job all over the nation. Segment. Get me out of the Studge Report, please, Willy, we say happy birthday today the Bengals legend chad Ocho Senko probably having a McDonald's lunch as we speak and giving big tips. We leave you with the immortal words of the

Stooge Report. Mistake Roberts, the Barbarian Comdol wreck Bat Rowdy Roddy Piper, Sod Nasty Voice, Side Reppullman, Sergeant Slaughter, the Lan's Real World Champion, Ric Flair or Killis Colonel Moustappa, from mat Joe Man, Randy Saad Stinner, the British bull Dog, Kady Bismith, Famillion, Elemn Tedbso, Shawn Michaels, the war Lord Kill Matador said, just as I rs Nikolai Bulko, the Texas Tornado for Joe Beyonder Taker, the Big Bossman Reccat,

Hember Valentine, Superflye Lookup, and the Immortal hol Hogan. It's time Rumbo good, a time for the Royal Ramba like nineteen ninety two. Now, I thought that was the Red's lineup for this year what I would hope so, But ninety two that was, and the Royal Rumble itself is in another couple of weeks. Second, man, Let's continue, but keep hope alive. The Reds are going to the top with a bullet. Yeah, let's continue with more coming up next as the diversity con how race discrimination is employed

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about twenty five years ago but recovered magnificently. I'm not sure Harvard will also Watching some of the commentary this morning on the morning talk shows, it appears

that we Americans have a problem with powerful black women. And this commentator said that doctor Clydine Gay fitted nicely with the attacks on Kamala Harris, our vice president, and also just as Kantanji Jackson, who doesn't know what a woman is, that whenever a black woman arises the power that America has to find dirt on them, as if it doesn't apply to Donald Trump, but nonetheless joining you and I now is Kent Heck and Lively, author of Diversity con

Secrets and Lives behind the Shady DEI Industry, and ken Heck and Lively, I think it'd be useful for the American people to first hear about your own personal history before we talk about the diversity con in which Al Sharpton and others has monetized racism. So tell the American people a little bit about your bio. Yeah. So I'm an attorney. I'm the science teacher as well,

and I've published fifteen books for that have been national bestsellers. I'm best known for the Plagued series with doctor gd Mikeavitz, and I've also published four books with Project Veritas whistleblowers. And I've written the book Presidential Takedown, which was about the COVID nineteen task Force that was co authored with doctor Paul Alexander, who was the senior Advisor to the pandemic advisor to the COVID nineteen task Force. Having heard your story, ken Heck and Lively, I like you to

comment about how much money's involved in DEI. How much money's involved because about ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, I thought discrimination was something. Shall we say that was going out the door in America at least, but there was too much money at stake. So explain what happened ten or fifteen years

ago. They gave birth to the dei dei experiences we have today. One of the really interesting things that we discovered in putting our book, The Diversity con together, is that there is an industry which is engaged in causing chaos. And the villain of this piece is the Tides Foundation out of San Francisco. Now, the Tide Foundation was founded in the late nineteen seventies by a left wing activist, and it's got a really interesting financial set, financial and

legal setup. What it does is, let's say you're a billionaire and you say, okay, Tide Foundation, I want to invest ten million dollars with you. You're going to put it into some funds. I'm going to get a rate to return for a couple of years. Still, you get a nice rate to return and everything. So it's functioning start like an investment vehicle. But then what you can do is you can say, hey, Tide Foundation, why don't you take three million dollars of my investment and give it

to Black Lives Matter. So the money doesn't come from you, the billionaire. It comes from the Tides Foundation. Now how big is the Tides Foundation. Well, in twenty twenty they gave out over six hundred million dollars in grands, so they've got an enorm Yeah, they they've six six hundred and seven I think it was exact number that they gave. And so what you

see as this interlocking network of foundations. And so when we look at, okay, who's putting money into the Tides Foundation, Well, it's all the regular players, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, George Soros, Open Society, Rockefeller, Carnegie Endowment, Johnson Foundation. So you've got this really weird legal structure, which is you can be a rich person and you can park a bunch of money there, and you know you can draw a good rate

to return because they've got investment vehicles for you. And then it's got this political arm and you know you are not tied to the organization that gets the money. So you can say, ah, I put some money in the Tights Foundation, and then they do these things. And so all of this appears to be legal, but you know, for my estimation, it's highly unethical and violates the spirit, if not the law of they're what they're supposed

to be doing under the law and ken what is the motivation? Because George Soros, in this loosely organized group of billionaires, it looks to me like they're having the impact of destroying large parts of our American society. Is that their goal? Do they want to like take down public education, take down

police departments, open southern border? What's what's the purpose? What's the goal in giving these six hundred million dollars in one year to left wing causes by one Tides Foundation plus many other A lot of moneys at stake here, But what is their goal? What do they want out of this money? Well, that was the real question that we had in our book because we had David Johnson go undercover at many of these trainings and what he came away with

was that many of the trainings are Marxist in nature. And you know, you'll even have Patrice Quaars from Black Lives Matter say that she's trained Marxist. And so we were confronted with a question of why are these billionaires giving money to Marxist organizations? You have history teaches us there's no money in Marxism,

right but there's money in monopoly. And so if you can use Marxist Marxist tactics to destroy local communities and you get people, you know, giving all their money to Amazon, giving their money to Target instead of the local uh, local stores, you have an enormous transfer of wealth from the middle class. As we saw during the COVID crisis, we had four trillion dollars move

from the middle class to the billionaire class. So I really think that this is this is an old game, you know, because the robber barons of the nineteenth century wanted you living in company housing, working for the company, buy in from the company's store. That's the model. And they're just using Marxism and racism to make to destroy vibrant local communities, to destroy destroy vibrant

relationships between people of different backgrounds, you know. And and what happens when we don't feel good in our community, Well, we have to attach ourselves to something. So we're just plugged into you know, our Netflix are Amazon,

and we're not engaging with other human beings. So many times Kent Heck and Lively, author of the book Diversity con what this is is like investment in the future to take away mom and pop stores, to have more and more Americans poorly or not educated whatsoever, to break down law and order so that more and more people live in the company town on the company check, getting company food, which is government getting company vouchers, and living the company

life, and getting rid of entrepreneurism. And I would assume religion also, because religion is again a speed bump on the way to what the billionaire class wants from the Tides Foundation, et cetera. And for those that are optimistic, having you spent so much written so much in the subject matter, I've read that essentially that and in three or four or five years things will be back to normal. With Harvard and Clouding Gay, she got her million dollar

Golden Parish out the door. She's written at least two editorials for The Wall Street Journal New York Times talking about how she's a victim of racism, which appears to be completely ridiculous. She's a victim of her own plagiarism and a victim of her own lies, and the victim of the fact she's not qualified

to be the president of any large organization based upon her history. But do you think after this episode with Claudine Gay, that the DEI industry, which is now surrounding her and protecting her, is going to learn the lesson of the lies and the plagiarism, or it is simply a speed bump on its way to more government control. Here's what I think. I think we can expect a lot of scalps to be taken in twenty twenty four. And this

is not about vengeance. It's about competence. Now, let's think about who's being hurt by this DEI agenda. There's some Indian kid who's in a senior in high school right now, who's got a great GPA, perfect scores, He's done a whole bunch of extracurricular activities. He's going to apply to Harvard, and because he's Asian, they're going to knock two hundred points off of his application and he's not going to get in. Okay, that hurts him.

Who else is being hurt? There are really good academics in our universities who have done the job the right way. You know. Let's say it's a middle aged white guy who's got all these publications and who is committed to fairness. Well, he's never going to be looked at and so what we need to do is we need to use the power of social media because we know the mainstream media doesn't doesn't care about this stuff. They're all left wing. But social media has this amazing power, and so what we need to

do is we need to drag these people out into the light. I mean, Elsie Stephanik questioned Clauding nineteen different times to condemn anti Semitism. You know, the plumber down the street only needs to be asked that question once to know the right answer. So what we need to do is we need to bring these people out of the light because the only way they maintain their position

is with the public support. So if they are having these crazy ideas, you know, it is time for us to rise up, demand accountability. And you know, I don't care if they're liberal, just don't say stupid things like clotting gay did and Judge Justice Keatanji Jackson. I mean not knowing what a woman is. You know, ninety eight percent of drunk ninety eight percent of drunk college freshmen can identify a woman. Okay, So all I'm saying, yeah, and all I'm saying is that we're in trouble because unless

Harvard the DEI crowd, which is a multi billion dollar business. Business is

good business. When I see Reverend Al Sharpton, who is a tax cheat, out in front of Bill Aikman's offices, protesting because he wants to express thoughts as a billionaire as a Harvard graduate, and somehow you know DEI is not the way to go because that is race discrimination, and that Al Sharpton, tongue in cheek, is protesting the free speech rights of a multi billionaire giving lots of bucks to Harvard, and he kind of wink wink, nod

nod. And a few of the persons with him were interviewed a couple of days ago, and they had no idea what they were protesting or who this Bill character is. They have no clue what's going on, and they keep the game alive because the racial game pays lots of money. We're talking billions and billions of dollars. Do you see work of yours and others kind of changing the drift of this huge rocket ship to nowhere? Or do you think it is too much? Has already had happen with DEI and the college's,

university's corporate America government that there's nothing we can do to stop it. At this point, sit back and watch America be destroyed from within. I'll ask you this, Ken Heck and Lively. Do you have hope or do you not have hope? I have incredible hope. Look, we're just a couple of days into twenty twenty four and we took out the president of Harvard. This is great. I think that we've got a lot of Dad energy coming back into the system. You know, use ridicule and contempt of these people

and have fun with this fight. This is just this is a wonderful fight and we're going to win it because all we have to do is talk and you know, crap jokes about you know, not being able to identify a woman. I mean, I'm sorry. You know, if human beings couldn't figure out what women were, I doubt that we would have survived as a species. But it's the correct answer because when justice can Tanji Kintanji Jackson said,

I don't know what a woman is. It was so absurd, But once again, when I read the literature, this going back about a year or so of this appointment, those who call her in the question are the ones being attacked, and so it's going to be sync to Bismarck in twenty twenty four to bring down Donald Trump because they've thrown everything at him and it

hasn't worked yet. And he's the only president we've ever had that had grandchildren who were Jewish, and they keep coming after Trump by different ways, hoping something works. I'll ask you this, Ken, I love your optimism. I'm not as optimistic as you are about colleges and universities turning back to moderate

approaches in corporate America and government and the southern border. What happens if the interchangeable drill bit in this November wins and we have four to eight more years of the policies of Joe Biden on the southern border in the major cities six hundred million dollars a year out of the Tides Foundation. Well, what if you're incorrect and America stays in this course for another, say ten years? What do we look like? Then? I run away to Argentina. Costa

Rica is what I say, Costria. I mean, I don't know where we're headed because we can't continue opposing discrimination by using it, and the entire civil rights crowd doesn't have a purpose to exist. Their philosophies control the university's Hollywood, New York. They control government and every city government. Every mayor's a left wing activist Democrat. And if that continues unbridled the next five to

ten years, I think we're in real trouble. Look if they start carrying down statues of Martin Luther King Jr. Which is what they're going to have to do, because his philosophy was that you judge somebody based on their character and their accomplishments, then I'll tell you it's time to run. But until that happens, I think stay and fight and be cheerful, and we're gonna

win this thing because the absurdity is so clear. I mean, look, you got three university presidents appear just a couple of weeks ago before Congress. Two of them are gone now, and I think Mit is probably the president. Mit who's still there is probably next on the chopping block, So you know, probably by the end of January, she will either had her wings clipped or she will be gone as well. Lastly, I would say that

doctor Clauding Gay got the one million dollar parachute. Kamala Harris is in charge of the Southern Border and she's terrible and Justice Jackson doesn't know what a woman is when she's a woman, I assume, and as a consequence, those are criticisms of their behavior, not criticisms of their race or gender. Once again, Ken Heck and Lively. The book is diversity con and it is a secrets and lives behind the shady DII industry. Kent, Heck and Lively

once again raise zips a locuitter. Thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Let's keep the lines of communication open. And once again, thank you very much, thanks Jill. All right, let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WULW currents issued by Sutton Bank and Celtic Bank. Members of the Ic terms and want to open the US Constitution once in a

while. If he did, he'd find a thing called the First Amendment and what it says in the beginning, He says, the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to position their government for redress and grievances. Hello yet, and I'm broadcasting all right, Rocky, let me quiz your mind right now. Yes, you're now coach Harball at Michigan. They've won their first real titles since the late nineteen forties. Ninety seven didn't count. They shared

it. When Nebraska it was a beauty contest. You're now HORRBA. You're offered something like one hundred and twenty five million dollars over ten years on condition you never leave and go to the NFL. Or You've got six NFL job openings right now. You are coach Harball. What do you do if anything, Well, given the fact that Mike Vrabel was just fired, you go. As long as you think Will Levis can be a franchise quarterback, you leave Michigan and you take the job with the Tennessee Titans. You take an

NFL job I think. I mean, college is such a nightmare anymore, with a transfer portal and nil and dealing with all this every year. It's like free agency on steroids, except guys can leave whenever they want, even if there is a contract in place. It drives these coaches nuts. He already proved he can win in college. He proved he can beat up and outreach and outplay and out physical Ohio State. So what does he have to prove? Go to the NFL, have a little bit better quality life and

see if you can etch your name in that in that realm there. And the other thing to think about is that he almost got to the brass ring. He almost won a Super Bowl title anyway against against his brother, and what else does he have to show at Michigan? Well, what else does he have to do? He was suspended for like half the regular season for all kinds of activities he said he didn't do. The investigations are still continuing.

Take the money and run because uh at college football is an eight billion dollar business with no CEO, no board of directors. It's a wild West. Do whatever you want to do, whenever you want to do it, and that's not at least in the NFL, there's some rules and there may be some off time. I think Zach Taylor needs some time off. His play calling is terrible. How do you keep running players up the middle? I don't get that. But nonetheless, if you're hardball, you want to

go to the NFL. The NFL collect one hundred million dollars at least might have some time off. And Michigan's losing most of their talent. And it's hard if you're at Notre Dame, which is a terrible campus. It's cold. It's in Indiana. For God's sakes, nobody would want to go there. Downtown Oh okay, I'm allowed to say that, but I don't know. If I don't know. Yeah, and Anna Arp was close to Detroit, for God's sake, is not much better than the art of Detroit.

I take the Nashville job. I mean in Nashville, Tennessee is beautiful, and you love Nashville. You love there? Do you like playing there? Right? I loved it. The people are great. I mean it's obviously exploded. Uh you know Grove Weather, it's the place everyone wants to be. Yeah, go there and now again, you know you any head coach is going to look at all, Right, what's the management structure, like, what's the owner? Like? How much money do we have? And

what's the quarterback situation? Right, that's the main thing. You can't go to a place that's locked into a mediocre or awful quarterback for a long time. So, you know, Will Levis I think showed some good signs this year. If you think he's the guy, you go down there and you have a pretty good quality of life. You don't move that far aways. It's not like you're moving back out to the West coast, out of California, which is completely nuts out there. Go to Nashville and build a franchise

down there. The media is a little bit, a little bit easier on you, you know what I mean than you would be in a bigger market town. To go there and have a better quality of life. See if you can win not just a national championship, but a Super Bowl championship. On Nashville is two hours from anywhere. It's not like being in New York or LA. It's a three four hour flight. And Nashville is in the middle of everywhere. The climate's pretty good. They're in a winnable division Nashville

is. And basically, I want to get rid of the Baltimore Ravens and I want to take in the Indianapolis Colts. I have a plan to get the Ravens out of the North and get the Colts and the Ravens to switch. You know what I'm saying, How does my plan sound? It lacks a little bit of fundamentals, but your heart's right place. I get rid of the Ravens, get rid of the Ravens segment, give me some sports and make it fast. Will he the stood reporters. Approach service of your

local teme Star Heating and air conditioning dealers. Tame star quality you can feel in Cincinnati Cole Sheldon, Braun and Braun Heating at five to one, three, three, eight, five, seventy seven sixty five. Roxy. Let's see Bengals update. Bengals offensive lineman Ted Carris, the winner of the twenty twenty three Nationwide Charity Challenge Walder Payton Mann of the Year Fan vote nationwide is going to award thirty five thousand dollars to Keris's charity, the Village of Maurici.

He is a finalist for the award overall that's going to be announced next month. Wow. Thank you. TJ. Watt's not going to play Sunday, not going with the knee insery for the Steelers against Buffalo. Wow. And the coach of the Year in twenty twenty two was fired today as you just said, Mike Rayball out after six seasons in Music City t SA. What do they do? What are they doing? What do they do? Cost? Coach of the Year in two thousand and two, seg said it.

I looked up confirmed it. That was exactly right. Now he can't believe me. I did believe you, but got it. College basketball Tonight, big twelve home opener for the Bearcats, coming off that big win at BYU number twenty five Texas. The next Bearcat victim seven hundred. Wlw's coverage at six thirty Missouri and Kentucky at seven on ESPN fifteen thirty. Mimmy RedHawks

at Buffalo. And the other issue. I think the Reds pitchers can catchers report in five weeks, believe it or not, rock five weeks pitchers and catchers report, and that the Reds are spending like drunken sailors. On shortly one hundred and ten million dollars. They outspent all the big time boys except the Dodgers. Bob cast the leady demands a winner, and the over under as far as wins now and look in Vegas is eighty three. I see glory marked in the eye to the Reds to shock the world and to march

for glory. Your comments, if if someone was mistaken, they would they would accuse you of being negative on the fact that the Reds are spending money. Well, yeah, drunking drunken sailors, you're spending man. Well one of the Reds officials told me, the old man wants a ring, the old Man's ring. You will bring championship baseball to Cincinnati. That's what he said. And now he's putting the cheese on the cracker. He's gonna make

it happen. The Reds have seven starting pitchers. Hunter Green needs to go seven innings, not four and a third. He needs to be the leader of the staff. He's making thirty five million dollars in his contract. It needs to be like a number one. They marched for glory and maybe Della Grove. There's one missing piece on this Reds roster. You know who it is, the manager Trevor Bauer. No way, no way, we accused. He's not gonna take him. It likes it a little different than you

may like it. But you know, did you did you little crime? No, I'm just saying he did a little commit a crime. Though if I did that kind of thing, Rock, I'd be gone. I would say this he enjoyed. Got a point there. I might be on that guy's list too. At Epstein, what he well, you know, the first email Bill Clinton sent was to a guy named Epstein. The first guy. But that's going back twenty five years. Look at it this way. If a man enjoys violent and sensual sex, Rocky, should that be held

against them? Yeah, rock I'll like that. A million women who bought the Shades of Gray series and seem to really like that. You know, I'm just telling you answer that question because it's such a taboo thing and so many people are are disgusted by it. Why are tens and tens of millions of women buying these novels, going to the movies and all in raw and enthralled in that stuff? Answer it? Answer the question, Answer the question. What is the question? What I you know? I want to confess

to you something. Yes? What? What? A couple of years ago on HBO, I watched most of Shades of Gray. I watched it, really and what did you think? What segment? Please continue? Please continue? What I want to know, Willie, is every we were talking about all this stuff? What about this that the Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin going to the hospital. I'm not telling anybody a w what's up with that? That's like you, it's like you going to hospital. Where's Willy? I don't

know's he's in the hospital. What's going on? With that, can you imagine if the White House covered up the fact that Donald Trump I had the doctor overall some sort of major issue. Indictment number nine thousand, Oh Rockey, you had the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff testify under oath that he told his counterpart in Beijing communist read China, he would advise the Chinese if America had any military plans. That's called treason. He also testified Millie

that the biggest problem in the military is white supremacy. In climate change mitigation, they conducted a year long investigation, couldn't find any white supremacy. Most of the soldiers killed and wounded are, of course white, because white Southerners want to defend this country, which is why you hear things like racism everywhere. And the American military is getting shot out and shot out and no one's responding. You got the Secretary of Defense awol for five or six days.

Nobody knows where he is, and I watched the news conference about a half an hour ago, and he's got price day cancer had some difficulties, which could happen anybody. But even in Green Township, would you have told Tony Rosiello if you had all these meetings that your prostate was hurting you. I

had to go to christ Hospital have it removed. Or would you simply go there, not tell your wife, not tell your family, not tell your mom and dad, not tell Tony Rosiello, and simply hide out for five or six days, and you're in the chain of command to launch nuclear weapons out of Green Township. Yeah, yeah, Rock. You would have to ask Tony Rosiello what he would say. He would keep the prostate cancer and still launch the nukes. Well, right now, we can't find we can't

find the fat. We got a fat, overweight Secretary of Defense in his seventies who hides out for seven days on an awol military. They're talking about Trump running a circus. What about this guy. Get a top hat and get a chair. Get Jim Scott. He's the greatest, the greatest matador I've ever seen. He's the He's the middle of the ring. The military in this country. We're being shot at repeatedly. Don't respond. The Chairman

of the Joint Chiefs commits treason. The Secretary Defense cannot be found, and Joe Biden can't locate himself off of stage. Not good, good, not good, not pissed off. I'm looking at this. I can't credibility until he said that. Now it's like, where did he come from? Thank you? Thank you? Where's the act? We need him back? Yeah, get in the back here. I don't say horrible people, horrible human things. Who cares? I just can't tell you how delightful my morning was.

You know, about six thirty seven thirty one, my phone would buzz two or three times. My wife and I would turn to each other and say, oh boy, what do you do now? It's kind of filled my heart with fervor. You know, I miss those days. If Trump wins, we have chaos. If the Democrat wins, it won't be Biden. We have chaos, but at least with Trump, with chaos, we have good governmental policies. With the Democrat, we have chaos, and we

have bad governmental policies we're gonna have. Can you imagine the media if Trump's reelected? What happens? I see? My theory is they really love it because their ratings have never been higher. Without Trump, everybody's ratings are in the toilet. From a business standpoint, which you know they're in a business, you think they would wanted to succeed. They should want Trump back in.

I think they secretly do. They want to play the card that they don't, but they I think they want him back in because or else. The New York Times CNN him they're all going to fail without him. Fifty shades of Rocky Boyman, Yes, fifty shades. But Trevor Bauer, according to the Castellinies, will not come back. He wants to come back, and he enjoys violent, consensual sex with mature women. What's wrong without seg Man? I don't know. Rocky Apparently, apparently most of the nation doesn't

feel like there's anything wrong if he can throw strikes again. I don't know sex. I don't know if it's going to happen not here. I don't think con central sex, violent sensual sex. I don't know what this is if it's on a loop. What was that again? Violet? Violence? And I certainly would. I don't think violence, and I don't talk about violence, thank you would? Consensual sex? What was that again? By the way, Wendesday, iowall coalk is that next week or Monday? All

right? So by Friday De Santas will be out. It'll be Trump and Haley. He'll then destroy her what she already is, and then it'll be Trump and Paints on the ticket. Not no, no, sorry Trump, not Mike Pads, Trump Des Santas on the ticket. Violent consensual won't be It won't be Trump Haley. She's no good? All right? Segment Get me out of this Dude's report. By the way, rock what's on the big show today? I see right on the gateway of your former girlfriend,

Tanya Rourke on a myriad of issues. Ask her about that issue. Ask her about Trevor Bauer and fifty shades. Yeah, Rocky boy man in violent consensual adult sex, ask her about that. I will do that for your request at a go over pig that is, get me out of the student Willy and hotter of a rainy day here in a tri state and violent consensual sex. We leave you with the immortal words of the stood report. You see what's happening. The process is rigged. This whole election is being rigged.

Correct, Rocky? Thank you? Talk to Tony Rosiello about launching those nukes from the hospital. I will segment thank you, Willie. Violent consensual sex on news Radio seven hundred w L Wing right, alright, that's McConnell. If you think this music's catchy, just wait if you join me, Mike McConnell in the morning, I got everything you need to start your day right the latest news, weather, traffic, sports, financial updates, travel

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