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Hours. We'll stay tuned on that. In about an hour from now, Peter Bronson will be here. Peter Bronson has written a book about how a Union general saved Cincinnati from the invading Confederate armies that were biv whacked in Boone County near the future home of Tony Bender, and they were ready to attack Ohio, and this one general saved Ohio. And also later on we're going to put a call into a real estate appraiser about how you can contest your

property valuations for those living in Ohio. Many have gone up forty to one hundred percent, and there's a way of contesting that and maybe lowering your cost a little bit. But until then, the new President of the FOP is the Honorable Ken Kober And first of all, Officer, welcome, I think

for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. And can you can can you tell the American people a little bit, a little bit about your background before we get into the issues of these mobs beating people up in Cincinnati. Sure, well, thanks for having me today. So I've been with the police department since two thousand, actually started as a civilian as a police cadet, went to the Academy in two thousand and two, and I've served in

various assignments in District five. District one. I was in our traffic unit, spent about eight years in our canine unit, went to a fugitive apprehension squad, and then prior to getting elected, I was running a beat downtown in the Central Business section. So you kind of know where the bodies are buried all over Cincinnati. I've been around for a while, so I try to keep it secret. Well. I had the honor of being with Keith

Fangman and Elmer Dunaway and Kathy Harold and Dan Hills. You're in a long, long blue line and hope it continues for a while. You made some comments about what's happening in the Central Business District, which is disconcerting. Plus the banks between my ballpark, the Great American and pay Corps, eight people have been shot. And I don't think the average Cincinnati and the average Northern

Kentucky and who wants to visit Cincinnati knows some of the dangers. And so you released last night a second mob of individuals beating up on another kid and almost I would think he's within an inch of his life. When you're on the sidewalk and you're unconscious and two or three people are kicking you in the

head, that is not a good situation. So, first of all, in a generic way, what happened with the first incident, which is out in front of the restaurant, and in the second incident you released with Chief Thiji last night. What does that say to you? It tells you that you're walking down the street and you're just getting attacked by a mob of people for no reason. You're minding your own business, just walking about your way, and all of a sudden they come up from behind and they attack you.

And you know, the police have done a fantastic job identifying some of these folks. They've arrested two people so far, only for them to be let out with little or no bond. And these are the things that the citizens need to know that not only is it putting police officers in danger, it's putting citizens in danger. The police are doing what they're supposed to do. We need these judges to step up and make sure that they're holding these

these people accountable. This is a relatively new phenomenon because going back ten twenty thirty years when Judge Grossman was in juvenile court and we had more conservative judges on the bench. If you were on video, without question, you're the one kicking someone in the head when they're unconscious, and you attack someone mercilessly, that's a flonious assault. It might be an attempted murder, in which case you're you're going to be in adult court. You're going to be sent

away. What's changed from your perspective among the judges the last three to five years. Well, yeah, it's interesting because I do understand the one side where they I guess they have less place to put kids, But ultimately, these judges have to hold these kids accountable. And what's happening is right now is they're not being held accountable. And if they know that there's no danger of being locked up or being held accountable, they're just going to out be

out there running wild. And these things are going to continue, and it's only going to get worse. In fact, this spring and the summer about the worst. And I can recall the shooting of a peace activist on Fountain Square. I think his daughter was shot just standing around, and these incidents are proliferating. Can you describe Brian Combs had to report a few days ago about eight people being shot over recent months in the Banks, which is perceived

as one of the best areas in the Midwest. For those who have not been there, to walk down to Shmell Park and you can go up and down from Montgomery In on one side all the way past Paikhrse Stadium and there's things to do. It's beautiful. The muddy River bank of the Ohio Rivers

now been replaced. But all of this is ruined. If you have large numbers of individuals attacking in persons for no apparent reason, and even if there is a reason, you don't attack somebody with weapons, how dangerous and how real is the threat? And the banks to individuals who are looking for robbery suspects, well we found what the Banks is. The later the night goes on, the worst things get. You know, the people that are coming down to go to a Cyclones game, of the Reds game or whatever,

just enjoy a night on the town. It is still relatively safe, but after the time of midnight you have people that are out there that are not patronizing businesses. They're parked illegally on Freedom Wag because there's no parking after eleven o'clock at night there, and they're there just waiting for their next victim.

And I do know that the police department is working on taking action to figure out how to try to curb this violence, because ultimately, if they make it uncomfortable for these people who want to victimize people to be down there, they're going to leave and they're going to go somewhere else. And that's the ultimate goal, is to just get the people that do not want to be

patronizing these places, to get them to go somewhere else. Leave, go home, but don't be down here trying to ruin people that are you know, they're knights that are just trying to come down here and patronize, you know, these businesses in the banks and enjoy themselves. Officer ken Cooper, Let's go back to the beginning of this, and that is judges that set low bonds. Is the idea that you don't you know, snitches get stitches.

Is that the two people that have been arrested and they quickly got out on bond. I think Judge Kerrie Bloom, who's the who's the liberal judge and juvenile court as an attitude about this, plus the magistrates said bond that she wants to be set. So in two cases, you had one individual get out on a ten thousand dollars at ten percent, which means you put up one thousand dollars and you're out, and the other one received an EMU

electronic a monitoring unit on your ankle. In other words, both are out quickly and they know who the other individuals are. But is there a sense among the criminal element that you can't talk to the place and give names because you yourself are going to get hurt and treat it like those other victims. Is the snitches get stitches? Is that an article of faith among the gang bangers? Well, you know, I think there is. There's certainly an

element of that. But you know, when you're talking about these young folks that are involved in these I mean, these are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen year old kids that are committing these crimes. Sooner or later, these kids are going to go, you know what, if I can save my tale to tell on somebody, they're most likely going to And that's kind of what

they're looking at now. I know there's a lot of evidence that's being reviewed by these investigators, and in fact, the video there's really released last night. They believe that there there's probably going to be some commonalities in the suspects between both incidents and the first incident outside the restaurant that this this this group was waiting in an alley and then they saw somebody walking. What was the

motive? Somebody, some little girl should appeared to be eight or nine years old as this customer is laying on the sidewalk, walks up and takes his cell phone. What is the is it? What is the motivation to do that? Was it to get his wallet? Could cash get the cell phone? Or is this simply a not out to have fun from their perspective, Well, what tell me the mechanism at work as far as picking a victim and where they hide before they launched their attack. I think this was just

a matter of this was just a mob rule. I mean, they had no other reason to do this to this person other than just because they fen't like it. I guess they figured it would be fun to go down there and you know, beat the living car out of somebody and ask their cell phone and take their wallet, because I guess they have nothing else better to

do. On a Tuesday night, and as far as the one you released last night explained the circumstances of that, the one they attacked, there was another African American kid in a hoodie and seemingly he got sideways with the mob. What was the motivation for that? If you know? My understanding is that was just a young teenager that was after school going to get onto his bus to be able to go home, and for no other reason than he

was just walking down the street, they decided to attack him. I mean, I can only suspect that with some of the things going down on there is that maybe he just wasn't from the neighborhood of this other mob of kids and they decided that they were going to assault him just because they felt like it. How badly was he hurt? Because to be unconscious on the street beaten doing consciousness and I have two or three individuals then kick you in the

face and the head. Is he doing okay or not? My understanding is he is recovering. However, that he did have some pretty pretty serious injuries that it's being investigated as a colonious assault. And so the motive is what the motive is? He doesn't belong on the There is no motive, it's just something to do. And the number of people that watched it and then encourage it, and whatever school those kids went to that the two perpetrators in

the first incident are back out right now. I would assume trying to go to grade school or high school and it's it's not like a terrible thing to engage in that behavior because you don't know the names of the other people involved. And I guess you can say, how does someone how does a father? How to mother? How does somebody look at that and say, downtown Cincinnati is safe? Oh, I ask you the big question, Officer Ken Kober or the FOP, is downtown Cincinnati is safe. I think it's relatively

safe. It just depends on the time of day you're down there. You know what's going on. You know, after school is an absolute challenge. You have kids coming from all over the city that are going down there to Government Square to be able to pick their bus up to go back to their

neighborhood, and it is just a boiling point. You have kids from different schools, different neighborhoods that are all now in one venue that have the opportunity to go fight each other, and they've got the freeway to get down there. You know, they've got a bus pass. So it's just inviting this behavior, you know, to to eventually erupt, and that's what you're seeing. I have a sense this is going to continue. This isn't a new

event. Hasn't this been metastasizing the last several years, and this is this is simply something that occurs. And these two events happen to be videoed. Well, how many times do these things happen not on video, doesn't doesn't get to TV, doesn't get to radio. Does this happen more often than these are private bussing and decided instead we're just going to give these kids bus

passes for them to be able to move about the city. Well, it's been an absolute disaster, and you know, the police are getting tired of it. I understand why. You know, every day when you're having kids running around Government Square and Fountain Square, just fighting, running amok, and it's all been something that's precipitated by not having the bussing that they should have

for these kids. Ken Cobert, do you have the support and the things necessary from city council, from the city manager, and from the mayor to stop this. Because it's an ongoing situation, I would assume you don't have the right tools. Am I right or wrong? I can tell you that the administration has been very supportive of me speaking out about this. I know there have been several meetings. You know, they're making a good faith effort at this point to try to figure out how to how to come up with

a solution. So you know, the time will tell whether or not things actually get done. But I do believe that they realize that this is a problem, and right now they're just working on solutions and as far as getting the correct bond set, as far as locking these people up, as far as getting them help. That's a key element because if two or three actually go to prison and spend time in jail, the message is sent to friends and companions in those schools, well, we better not do this. We're

going to be locked up. But when within twenty four hours those who commit these felonious assaults are back in school, back with their bus passes, snickering and laughing about what happened, that doesn't send much of a message, does it. You're absolutely right. I mean, there have to be consequences for these actions. Joh And, like I said, anybody that will listen to me, we're not talking about low level misdemeanors. We're not talking about a

thirteen year old steal on a bag of chips from Kroger. We're talking about a group of eight kids that are stamping the daylights out of unsuspecting victims for no other reason than it's just fun for them to do. They need to be held accountable, and until they're held accountable, these things are just going to continue. Officer ken Kobert, talk to me about the cop that was hurt. Because these aren't well publicized. I know every year there's about five

hundred Cincinnati police officers that are beaten. In one sense, now, there's just a total lack of respect for law and order and cops. Of course, in many major cities, Cincinnati's about ten years behind Chicago, Cleveland, Los Angeles as far as disrespect for cops. And there's not much of a defund the police movement here as there been in major cities. But that's who knows the future. But tell us about the officer that was beaten recently.

So Saturday night, Sunday morning, a couple officers responded to a report of a business being robbed up in Clifton. Upon arriving, they get there and they realize that the suspect had gone. They get a description, will they locate the suspect. This suspect that had jumped over the counter was trying to take a register from a restaurant that was open. They locate the suspect immediately approach him. He turns around and just starts fighting with these officers. During

this struggle, one of the officers actually gets taken to the ground. They get him in handcuffs. Well, then he realizes that he's got part of a bone sticking out of it his knee, So he was transported up to UC. He was there for out of a four and a half five hours. They did some work on his knee, and he's now at home recovering. That suspect was charged, and I just found out this morning that at

arraignment, Judge Bichard gave him a three hundred thousand dollars straight bond. So he's making the effort to make sure that these criminals are being held accountable, and that's something that certainly we appreciate. Now three hundred thousands. So during the fight, his kneecap shattered and part of the bone went through his skin.

Yeah, he actually had three fragments from his knee cap that were sticking out that all had to be removed and then had to get some stitches, and he's got some follow up to see internally what other damage he has to his knee. I would imagine this perpetrator had a previous criminal record. You

don't begin in your life a crime by fighting a cop. And when you fight a cop who has guns and mace and he's got taser's got all that stuff, it's a life and death struggle because many times the officer's gun is as available to the assailant as it is the comp Did this perpetrator have a previous criminal record? Do you know? Actually he was previously convicted for a robbery and was out on felony as you call it, probation, community control,

and he has been in and out of some mental health facilities. But yeah, I mean, he's a convicted felon that's out doing the exact same thing that he was convicted of just a couple of years prior. You know the name of the judge who gave him probation for the previous offense that I don't. I do know that he did spend some time in jail, he spent some time in a mental facility. I don't really know the facts of why he was out running around, but I do know that at some point

there was at least some accountability. But clearly there just wasn't enough. But he said, I'm not sure of all of the facts of that prior case, so we'll wait for the next release of video. But there are many of these assaults that occur not on videotape, so it never gets to channels five, nine, twelve, and nineteen doesn't get here is the two incidents we've recently seen the tip of the iceberg. Are there more of these events happening that we aren't on tape? Yeah, I mean, I said,

I don't. I don't think it's not an everyday occurrence necessarily, but there. Yeah, there are a lot of these things that are going on that just needs to stop. It begins with cops, and secondly it begins with prosecutors, and thirdly, it begins and ends with judges. And if you have judges who release individuals who do this kind of stuff willy nilly. That's

a problem. And we have a problem in Hamlet County which is soft headed judges other than Brigard and other than pat Ningkelock or there's other judges out there who simply have a pitter patter attitude when it comes to law enforcement. They don't want these individuals locked up. We have a dysfunctional juvenile court system, and we have a dysfunctional juvenile penal system that the governor wants to change.

But it all begins with judges locking up individuals like this. If you're in the gang, kicking someone in the head and stealing from them without reason or purpose, just picking out victims for fun or profit, those are the individuals that need to be locked up. But once again, Officer ken Kober, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and get my best to the men and women in blue in the city of Cincinnati. And thank you.

Officer I will thank you appreciate you having me. Kenkober, Thank you all. Let's continue with more. Ken Kober is the new head of the FOP and these things are disgusting. It's the reason there's a lot of empty storefronts in downtown Cincinnati. Another reason many good restaurants and OTR are closing because of a lack of business because individuals like Tony Bender are not incentivized to go down to OTR and to enjoy that and come out on a summer's night. What's

going to happen? And it begins with cops, and we have good cops. Then it goes to prosecutors who are charging correctly. Then it comes to a judge other than Judge Carrie Bloom of Amity County Juvenile Court who's a liberal, to actually set bonds to indicate we got the right person. The message is sent, We're not going to put up with this, and we need that message now. My other comments are next, Let's continue. Bill Cunningham,

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Literally in the eighteen sixties during the Civil War, Kentuckians were formed on the northern shore to attack and assault Hambleton County. So we're going to talk about that in the general that saved Cincinnati. After two o'clock today is Rick Hamilton. He's one of the great appraisers in the tri State. To talk about what to do if you have a property tax bill that you think is too

great, and there's an easy way of appealing that. After two o'clock, Rick Hamilton's going to discuss it. And what it means is that there's a two page form go in Hamlety County the Otters Office, download the form and you can file quote an appeal to the Board of Revision. And it's a simple procedure. I've been there, it's been many years, representing a couple friends of mine who wanted to get their property tax bill reduced and they were

successful. But the key is to get a good appraisal of your home because theor's office, under state statutes doesn't really come into your house. They look at you from ten thousand feet up and they don't particularize the appraisal for your particular home. And the issue is not one of need or I filed bankruptcy, I lost my job. That doesn't matter. It's the value of your home as if January first, twenty twenty three, more than a year ago.

So it deals specifically with the real estate sales and the last half of twenty twenty two. So if you don't get it reduced now, the appraisal in three years from now is going to be a lot higher because most of the run up and prices happened in the year twenty twenty three. That doesn't matter on this particular revision of your real estate taxes. One one twenty three is the operative date. So if you get it reduced now, that'll be

the starting point for three years from now and three years after that. So you're going to save serious money. And I know Chris Finny attorney's involved with some of these corporate reappraisals, but Rick Hamilton of appraisals first, and his phone number, by the way is six nine eight eighty seventy five one three, six nine and eighty seventy At two o'clock today, he's going to tell you how you, as a regular schlep citizen, can actually save money the

great majority of time. It's in my experience, the border revision is an informal proceeding. It's not like in court. You walk in with your appraiser or your appraisal and give it to them and they look at it and they generally just say at that point, okay, we'll reduce it, and then you walk out and the way you go, So do not curse the darkness light of candle. And lastly, before I talk about crime and River City, when you vote for levees, that builds into your property tax bill.

So when you vote for the Zoo levee, the museum Center Levee, the Developmental Disability Service, the Family Services and Treatment Levy, the Library levee, the Energy and Care Levee, the UC Medical Center Levy, the Children's Hospital Medical Center levee, the Hamony County Sheriff Inmate Medical Levee, the Amony County

Juvenile Court Inmate Medical Levee, the Mental Health and Recovery Services Board. When you vote for the Hamony County Public Health Levy, the Central Clinic Alternative Interventions for Women Levy, the Saint Vincent DePaul Charitable Pharmacy Levee, the Strategies to End Homelessness Levy, the Amony County Probate Court, Civil Commitment Levy, the Hamony County Job and Family Services Levy, the Mental Health and Retardation Recovery Services

Board, the Council and Aging of Southwest Ohio Levey, the Hamlony County Job and Family Services Levee, Hammony County Veteran Services Levee, and more. Your property taxes go up. All these levees pass automatically. I don't think a levee has failed within my memory in hamilin a count The other counties don't have all these levees. We have them, and the property taxes, especially in

places like the city of Cincinnati, CPS is confiscatory. It's unbelievable. And so think when you vote for these levees what you're doing to your property tax bill. But there is a way to lower your bill, and after two o'clock today, Rick Hamilton will be here to tell you how to do it. So stay tuned for that now. Secondly, or thirdly, what's happening in Cincinnati with crime, which is awful, is happening to a much greater

extent in other American cities. Ten years later, Cincinnati will be like Chicago, Portland, Los Angeles, and Atlanta. It takes us a long time because right now we have a good functioning law enforcement community in Hamlton County. Ce PD is good, Hamilton County Sheriff's office is good, and the thirty seven or thirty eight police agencies in Hamlin County are pretty good. And so we're not quite there yet, not quite in New York, Philadelphia, Atlanta,

we're not there yet. But if we change direction as to where we are right now, we likely will not get there. If we keep the same prosecutor Melissa Powers, because she will prosecute people seriously, it'll delay the inevitable. And in CPD, we have a good one thousand strong member of Police Division that needs about three hundred more members. Instead of spending money on street cars, it'd be really great if city council would spend money hiring more

police officers and paying them more money. In the City of Portland had a guest on Sunday night. They're paying their starting cops one hundred and ten thousand dollars a year, one hundred and ten grand, and they still can't fill the positions. I think CPD starts about fifty five or sixty. Jump that to one hundred thousand dollars a year to start. Give every you want a

twenty to thirty thousand dollars raised deputy sheriffs, corrections officers. Make this the hallmark of law enforcement right now should be the City of Cincinnati, because we're teetering. You can't have mobs of individuals picking out pigeons to attack into assault for no reason whatsoever. And a good chunk of what's happening in the media, which tends not to want to report these facts, is that the face

of crime in Cincinnati is largely a young male black face. There was a time about five or six years ago when the Inquirer put the face of every person killed in the city of Cincinnati. Everyone was a black face. And I've said it before, and I'll say it to the top of the mountaintops. The face of crime in Cincinnati or in Dayton is largely a black male face. But the great majority of black males, young black males, want nothing to do with crime at all. They're victims of it. Statistically,

stay with me on this. According to the Census Bureau, there's about one hundred and thirty thousand African Americans who live in the city Cincinnati. One hundred and thirty thousand, Okay. Of that number, say sixty five thousand are males. And of that number, about eighteen thousand are between the ages of fourteen and thirty. Eighteen thousand of that eighteen thousand may be as many as

five percent are involved in criminal activity. Ninety five percent of young black males want to work, go to school, love their parents, get an education, get a job, and perform like anyone else. When I see those two all three soldiers killed in Jordan were African Americans yesterday, and two were young. They were in their twenties and they're defending this great country. Black males at Mueller, black males at Deer Park, black males at Simon Kenton

have nothing to do with crime. There's a small says small, having a greatly larger impact in the city of Cincinnati. So the media doesn't like to often put the faces of criminals up because in the city of Cincinnati Hamley County, it's largely a young black male face while the great majority, over ninety five percent want nothing to do with crime. And we understand that. You understand that. Go down a room A and the Justice Center. Just sit

there and look who who's arrested the night before. It's probably ninety percent young black males. While the great majority, you young black males have nothing to do with crime. They're good kids. Kids at Ache and Western Hills use no problem. The five percent element, which comprises about one thousand young black males, commit probably ninety percent of the crime, as told to me by

Joe Eaters Melissa Powers in the Prosecutor's office. If they could get that small number and lock them up and separate them, crime would go down precipitously. It doesn't happen. We have a dysfunctional judiciary now in Hamlin County. It's teetering. It's like half judges will lock up vicies criminals and the other half

will not. When Hamilty County Juvenile Court head in front of them last couple days, two of the individuals who kick the crap out of innocent victims on the streets of Cincinnati, kicking them in the head with their boots, causing serious physical harm. That's called felonious assault. That's an f two go to prison for ten years for that. How do those two individuals get out on bond posting little or no bond? How does that happen? I don't understand

it when you look at the video. We have the right person. This is causing mayhem and destruction in the city that I love. And we have a large number generally liberal Democratic judges who don't want to put black in jail for the crimes they commit, which costs the black community a lot more than anyone else. I see, my friend Lincoln Beware, it's with me on this one thousand percent. And it's not about racism. Mythical racism is not the cause of this. It's no fathers in the home. It's no sense

of God, it's no sense of a future. It's listening to rap music. It's acting out to your fantasies of smash and grab robberies and maybe a gang ritual in which you have to do something to prove your loyalty to the gang. And in every American city it's the same problem. If you go to Chicago, go to Dayton, New York, Atlanta, the face of crime is a young black male face, but you can't call it out because you have the possibility of being called a racist for pointing out reality. It's

racial but not racist. By that, I mean a great majority of young black kids in Atlanta want nothing to do with crime. But that five percentile in a large city like Atlanta is maybe several thousand that engage themselves in these activities. They need to be separated from society to protect it, especially those who live in the black community that want to have a functional life, and

so call it out for what it is. Make sure you elect judges who will lock these scoundrels up for long periods of time and not release them quickly on bond and get them treatment. Are you kidding me? That's not the way it's supposed to work. And the mythical racism, the fake claims of racism, sickens me because we don't live in that society anymore. And these

criminals, whatever description, must be separated from our society. And if they're not separated, the social debauchery that you see in Chicago and Atlanta's going to come right to Cincinnati, going to be right here. And I find with interest the comments of the new FOP head Ken Kober about the bus system.

I have a text here from Denny from Dayton who says the following that Dayton Public schools gave their kids bus passes years ago and to destroyed the bus system because paying adults did not want to ride on the circus wagons and destroy the downtown business community. They have since gone to a mostly school system, but

it's too late. So the answer is, yes, they want to get rid of the bus system, But then tens of thousands of kids from CPS ride the bus, and that five percent calls havoc and turmoil and chaos all over the place, and we can stop it. The message has got to be sent when you engage yourself a mob type criminal activities. You will go to jail for a long time. Those two kids released on those recent beatings are snickering at the court system. No big deal, I'm under eighteen.

There's nothing you can do do to me. That wasn't the case when Judge Sylvia Hendon was there, or Judge Grossman was there, or when Judge Melissa Powers was in juvenile court. They separated the whek from the chaff. They said, Okay, you steal a bag of chips from Walmart, that's one

thing. But a mob of kids that attack shoppers and others in downtown business district and kick the crap out of them, almost kill them, those are the ones that need to be separated from society to protect all the communities, especially the black community. That's what has to happen. It's not happening now. In fact, it's likely to get worse. We have a functioning law enforcement status in Hamlin County at this point, the Sheriff's Office, City of

Cincinnati, the other thirty eight police agencies in Hamlin County are functional. We continue down this path of freeing criminals so they can commit more crime. That's going to dissipate. It's going to be hard to find men and women wanting to serve, and the sheriff's officer and the CP or whatever. It begins with the idea of good cops, good prosecutors, and good judges. The

problem is solvable. It can happen, but not when you have liberal judges who might want to go back twenty five to thirty years and find that some murder in blue ash in a hotel was wrongfully decided by the other fifty judges that looked at it, which you know, Judge Wendy Cross went back in time some thirty or forty years and wanted to try a murder case, and that was absurd. Nonetheless, we get the government we deserve. Let's continue

with more coming up later will be Peter Bronson. He's written a book of a general who saved Cincinnati from the marauders from Boone and Kenton County. And maybe the election of twenty twenty four might be like the election of eighteen sixty plus. Later on, as Rick Hamilton of appraisals first about how to challenge your property tax bill and how to do it properly and what you can do

to win. You got to win because this appraisal dealt with the last half of twenty twenty two, which will form the basis of three years from now, and so it is easy to do. Believe me, it's easy, but you have to know what to do. Listen after two o'clock to Rick Hamilton and he will tell you. Let's continue twelve fifty sixth to the home

of the Great American Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred. Wow. Maybe it's cold outside but not inside thanks to Pellow Windows and Doors rated number one for highest quality Dan Horde for Pellow Windows and Doors of Greater Cincinnati tackle cold weather of the low, bad, the low the bowl. I Billy Cunningham, the Great American. I've been an hour. Rick Hamilton will be here from

Appraisals first to talk about how you can contest your property tax bill. Very simple, very easy, but you got to do it to save money. But until then, the man who saved Cincinnati by Peter Bronson, author of Not in Our Town and Forbidden Fruit Man. His name is a General Lou Wallace. Let's go back in time. You make a reference to eighteen sixty being similar to twenty twenty four. Ohell, believable. Tell me it's amazing. Okay, President Buchanan at the time was so close to being Biden,

it's unbelievable. He was uh huh. He was a lifelong party hack. He had never done anything in the private sector. He finally rose to the presidency, and he was widely despised for being so ineffectual and halfway destroying the country. In fact, for the first two years of the Civil War it was known as Buchanan's War because because he's the one who did nothing to bring the Union together and put patches over these things and let it go where it

went. So how close was Lincoln coming to winning or losing? And was he on the ballot? Lincoln was not even on the ballot in ten states. So we talk about you know, you hear news reports this is unprecedent. They're trying to keep President Trump off the ballot. No, it's not unprecedented. It happened in eighteen sixty. Lincoln was running in a four way race. He won less than forty percent of the vote and won by a plurality. So Lincoln barely snuck into the presidency in eighteen sixty. Over who

was he running against? He was running against three other guys. One of them was Breckinridge, John Breckinridge, who was Buchanan's vice president. He must have been a real incomponent. Well he was actually now he turned Breckinridge turned into the Southern Democrats party leader from the pro slavery issue and became one of the generals for the Confederate Army. So that's what was happening in this country.

Okay, a few more parallels we had. These amazing similarities were that, for example, we had the country totally divided over immigration in eighteen sixty. The Democrats were using it to populate and swell the northern cities where they could gain a majority, a political cloud in the House and Senate. So all the new immigrants weren't going to the South because it was and there weren't

jobs. The jobs were held by slaves, so immigration was weaponized. We had an outsider Republican who got elected barely and was hated by the establishment and reviled by the media. That man was Abraham Lincoln. Yet like thirty eight percent of the vote, Yeah, kept off the ballot in ten states, and the media hated him. They mocked him. What Trump you mean, Lincoln? Lincoln. These parallels are amazing free speech was hazardous. In fact,

there were midnight raids to arrest political enemies. Abraham Lincoln approved that General Burnside sent federal troops up to Dayton to arrest one of the leading abolition or pardon me copperheads who was stirring up too much trouble. And his name was

Clement Vlandingham. And they actually broken into his house, knocked down his door, and hauled him out in the street in his pajamas, took him to prison, gave him no constitutional rights, no habeas corpus, and kept in prison until they finally couldn't got too hot because they had obviously violated his constitutional rights, and they ended up making a deal where they took him down to

the Confederates and handed him over. So this is like today with Trump being and died in ninety one counts, Trump being vilified, Trump being kept off the ballot. See what happened to lank And the immigrants had to go to northern cities because that would swell the power in the Congress, much like today the immigrants are going to blue cities to have on the census. You have more clout because you don't have to be a citizen just have to be a

human being. And that's why they're putting him in California, Illinois, in New York to get Cloud away from Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana. So the North had totally taken and seized monopoly on political power, and the South was

pretty much shut out. And this alienated the South even more because they knew that what the North was going to be doing with this was they would come after them with what they called the abominable tariffs, and the terriffs seized Southern cotton and put tariffs on it so high it couldn't be sold to Europe at fair market value like China today and good good analogy, and they steered it up to the eastern seaboard where the textile industry of the North wanted Southern cotton.

So what's happening today has happened before. I was like, this is unprecedented. You know, it's an existential threat. No, No, eighteen sixty eighteen, that was a problem. This was the Antebellum period. Free one more. I'll give you political attacks on members of Congress. We know what happened to Steve Scalise, we know what happened to Ran Paul Well.

In eighteen sixties, a congressman, a senator by the name of Charles Sumner, an abolitionists, was almost beaten to death on the floor of the Senate by a Southern gentleman by the name of Preston Brooks. He took a cane, didn't He beat the crap at caned him on the floor of the Senate, on the floor of the Senate. Well, if something happens today, we experienced it. It's like never happened. Or is the highest, the greatest, the worst? And in reality it's not that way at all.

Let's talk about Kentucky and Ohio. Yes, sir, Kentucky where I was born, where I was raised a family from Elsmere and Erlanger was a slave state, but it was not part of the Confederacy. Please explain. It would not join the Confederacy and it would not join the Union. Kentucky was the Switzerland of the Civil War. Abraham Lincoln said, I hope that God is on our side, but we must have Kentucky. And he was born

in Kentucky. He was born in Kentucky. And when he was elected president, he got less than one percent of the vote in his own home state. Really yes, sorry, So Abraham Lincoln got one percent of the vote in Kentucky. Yes, and Kentucky declared they would remain neutral, which didn't last for long because both armies ended up fighting major battles in Kentucky. But Kentucky's very curious because they sent more if you're going to look at it,

which side they favored. More of the young men in Kentucky fought for the Union than for the Confederacy. But after the war Kentucky had the most Confederate monuments of any state in the Union. Why well, they had suddenly decided they were pro Southern and the Deep with the loss in the Deep South states really mocked Kentucky for oh, now you're on our side. When we needed

you, you weren't there. Peter Bronson, you have a great photo on your book The Man who Saved Cincinnati, in which the peering of the Suspension Bridge. There was no bridge at that point, correct, There wasn't Brent Spence Bridge. There was nothing. There was nothing to go across the Ohio River. And by the way I read this, it was many times five feet deep and you could walk across and explain, well, the river wasn't very high, but they did need a bridge, and they had begun the

work on the suspension bridge the Robling just before the war. But Cincinnati as a huge center of commerce. Let's let's take a detour here for a minute to talk about how Cincinnati was super important. We were the queen city of the West because we were the sixth largest city in they we had We were twice the size of Chicago, four times bigger than San Francisco, four times five times bigger than Pittsburgh, Detroit, Cleveland. So this was a huge

center of commerce. But when the war came along, everything dried up because most of that commerce was across the Ohio River, and when we stopped doing business with Kentucky and the South, things got tight. The bridge had to be The work was suspended, much like the subway many years later, which I've been in with Charlie Luken. He took me into the subway. Unbelievable, but nonetheless I find for those who may not know this, the Higho

River without the damming, it was often it was almost dry. It was muddy puddles five feet deep walk across it. So the idea of building a bridge, I'd read of a bridge and not but to invade. So the idea was in the eighteen fifties to build that bridge, the so called Suspension bridge. The funding dried up, but the neighbor and Lincoln had to say, we got to finish that bridge. We got to get Union soldiers. But explain the man who saved Cincinnati, because Rob Sanders and Tony Bender would

be shocked to learn that major general saved Cincinnati. In fact, explained the battle war. Kenton County wanted to invade Hamilman County. Well, it wasn't really Kenton County. In fact, the mayor of Cincinnati was a copperhead and he wanted to surrender to the South. What's a copperhead? That would be somebody who supported the South and supported slavery in Ohio, supported the Confederacy. Yes, there were a lot of them, and so Cincinnati had more than

its share. They even hit Well we'll get into that later maybe, But so the mayor of Cincinnati had agreed with the mayors of Covington and Newport they would surrender because they heard er. Yeah, this army was coming up from Lexington, nine thousand battle hardened Confederates. They were angry who had been winning battles all across the South nine thousand and these were little guys. You said this off the air. The average Confederate Union soldiers made five to six weigh

one hundred pounds one hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty. Didn't look like guys, like strapping males, not guys, and many were very malnourished. They came from hard scrabble farms and and really tough urban areas where they were orphans. These they were tough, small, they were tough, yes, and so explain what happened. So these Confederates general by the name of Henry Heath, who is quite a guy you'll find in the book, the kind of guy you would love to me, I love this kind of guy.

Oh yes, So he gets these guys, he gets his army together, and he goes to his commander, General Kirby Smith, and he says, I think Cincinnati is an apple ready to fall off the tree. We got the Confederate sympathizer in the in the mayor's position on Street, and we've got all these Union material for war. We've got uniforms, wagons, horses, mules, gold, tons of gold in the Cincinnati Bank vaults. Go get them, Go get them. And he says that apple is going to fall

off the tree. And he says, can I take it? And Kirby Smith says, go take it. Cincinnati's under earth. They start marching north. Mayor Hatch and the other two mayors say, we're just going to surrender. We can't take a chance that our city is going to be burned.

Because the threat was that Henry Heath with his nine thousand men, this undefended queen city of the North, has nothing to defend it, no police really to speak of, no army, no nothing, no National Guard at the time, and it was able to be burned because most of the buildings were

would exactly, we didn't have concrete. So his threat was to set up cannons on the hills in Newport and Covington and threaten the city with a siege and say, look, you either pay us, he said, a ransom of what would amount to about a five hundred and fifty five million today, which was about fifteen million at that time, We're going to pay us not to invade. Yes, And so the cannons are set up and the children, the grandfather of Rob Sanders and Tony Bender are manning the cannons, and

they're ready to fire on the city of Cincinnati. And we got a mayor who's a sympathizer with the South, and that is exciting. Tell me what happened next. This is so they're ready to surrender on a Sunday night, and lou Wallace is sent over from Crawfordsville, Indiana. A general. A general, he's a hero of Shiloh. There he is. I'm looking at his picture. He thought it was eighteen sixty general. Right, Yes, that is Look at the beard not bad. Yeah, you can't have any

chili with that kind of beard anyway. Please continue. So he comes over from Crawfordsville, and in three days he had shown the city how to defend itself. No bridge of this, he said, no bridge. He and an architect in town put together a pontoon bridge by using coal barges from the Licking River. They strapped them together, and they marched across into the hills of northern Kentucky. And they started digging rifle pits and bringing over what cannons

they could muster. In some cases they even made what were called Quaker cannons out of logs that they painted black to look like cannons, and they dug all these rifle pits. And meanwhile they had this huge migration of what were called the squirrel hunters, who were backwoodsmen who came to rush to the defense of Cincinnati. So this guy Wallace put together a makeshift army, yes he did. Who was in the army in Cincinnati to defend us against Kenton,

Boone and Campbell County. It was basically squirrel hunters and a few regiments that were supplied by Indiana and Columbus, and they cleaned out their armories. They scraped up whatever they could to send over to Cincinnati, because they knew if Henry Heath marched up and took Cincinnati, he would split the Union in half, and the Union would probably be forced to sue for peace, and America

would be forever divided. What year was this, This would be eighteen sixty two, in the fall, when things are a little you know, things are a little iffy. At this point, Bettysburg in sixty three hadn't happened yet. That was close, Yes, sixty two. The Confederacy might have won if they took Cincinnati and split the Union and a great sixth largest city in the country. Cincinnati falls to the hands the blood thirstes coirrel hunters.

Explain what happened, and so at this point they all they had to do was take Cincinnati and it would have opened up all of the Midwest. Now they can go on up into Michigan, they can take Chicago, they can basically, that's a little Miami River, great Miami River. Get going. What happened in this battle with Wallace, the man who saved Cincinnati. So he puts together this amazing army and basically, but they're not really trained army.

None of them had seen a bullet fly. And all these squirrel hunters were impressive in numbers, but they had basically muzzle loading old squirrel guns that you know, you might be really good with that gun, but it's nothing like when those guys could do this. Squirrel and those nine thousand were battle hardened guys. They had fought and won at battle after battle. They were

the survivors. And not only that, Kirby Smith had already promised Heath that he would send up reinforcements as soon as he could get to Cincinnati, and Cincinnati didn't have I seventy one I seventy was walking through woods, through creeks. They got what happened at the battle. They got as far as Fort

Mitchell. And there's a famous story, and it's documented in my book, where Wallace is standing on one parapet looking through his binoculars and Heath is standing on a rooftop about a mile away looking through his binoculars, and they stare each other down and the battle is about to begin. The skirmishes start, they start shooting at each other. Men are getting killed. And then the South lost its nerve. A big battle was building down in the South,

in southern Kentucky around Louisville. And the general there, who was nervous and was not a very good general, he had kind of flaked out two or three times before. He said he's got to have all his troops. He called Kirby Smith, sent him a dispatch and said get Heath and bring him back here. Oh thank god. Yes, So they said, okay, let's go down to Louisville. Leave Cincinnati alone. Got a bigger They didn't

have telegram, telegraph, they didn't have the Google. They had to send a person on a horse with a message to go ninety miles, which might take a week or two to tell the general in northern Kentucky you come south immediately. And he gave up, and that is what saved they recalled him. Now Wallace would say that Heath looked at the huge defenses that he built and that was it he decided, because the next morning he didn't have the

guts. Well, it's still in dispute. And there's a great scene at the end of the book where they meet each other at the burnout house after the war, and they hadn't seen each other since that day when they were staring each other down over that battlefield, and at that point Cincinnati was saved. And the rest is history. You got it, Peter Bronson, The book is great. I'm taking it a home. My wife loves reading this stuff as I do. Great photographs and the man who saved Cincinnati. And

thank god that a messenger got through from Louisville. Otherwise things would have been different. We would have been invaded by Rob Sanders's great friend. Isn't it fun? The thing about what it would have looked like if that had happened never never happened before. President has never been kept off the ballot. He got thirty eight percent of the vote. Yeah, and he wins, and he wins. Peter Bronson, you're the best of this stuff. Well,

thank you. By the way, people can get that at local bookstores and on my website for signed copies, which is chilidog Press dot com chilidog press dot com. Peter Bronson, I wish you were still running The Inquirer, do you. I never did. But anybody who claimed to run that place, good luck, is not telling the truth. Peter, Thank you very much, Thank you all. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WLW. Then the new year is here, and if you're like many of

us, you're going to make a resolution to him. Beer brewed here. It is usual to make the prow beer in this fire. Ooh Worth Riders, thanks for the great lakes. I wonder why oh hello, quiet skos, I'm broadcasting all right, segment The inquir has done a story on Joe Burrow. Now what they're great? Number nine? Yeah? Now, now what's he hadn't hurt himself? Has he not yet? Okay? But he

will thank God for that two hundred and seventy five million dollar deal. But he bought some property in Anderson Township, really little bungalow, not the Is that your other Is that your other house? Cold Stream? He bought seven point five million, most expensive home sale and amlin A County in the year twenty twenty three, and right next to Dale Donovan, very close to Joe

Mixon. Same. I want to get some kevlar in the windows US these guys get those usually these guys live in northern Kentucky right better for Texas. Soson Township has no earning stone. They're going to Anderson. What do you think his tax bill is? I think he's living writing down down the street from Kim Scheidler. His tax bill for a night for twenty twenty four is fifty seven thousand dollars. Fifty seven thousand. We got our tech, we

got our property tax yesterday. It's just a little bit below that. Well, Joe Burrow, I hope he can live out his dreams. He just pulls out the check book and writes it. He just goes into his couch cushions and gets to fifty seven thousand to set here, it's all yours. See you what would it be? You? So Joe Burrow is living La Veda Luca And by the way, yeah, if Taylor Swift no Jeez, starts dating Joe Burrow, We're going to have a story at that point,

that's for sure. I don't think she's gonna dump Travis the Kay anytime soon, do you think? And of course Joe Burrow's custom spa by ACR one night pulls and spaws. But Joe Burrows spending fifty seven and property Texas and we hope he can live out his dream and be healthy. What's what's the house cover half Anderson Township out there? Windows my whole career and and everybody

that we have in my locker room, all coaches we have. You know, things are going to change year to year, but our windows always open. Early in his career, Michael Jordan had a foot problem. Yeah, I pray to God that whatever it is, Joe Burrow stays healthy the next ten years, being goes and lives out his manifest destiny. It can be whatever it is, he's going to take us to the Promised Land. Because

what's his record against Buffalo in Kansas City? Five and one bingo? He beats Kansas City in a regular basis, correct, So we need a healthy Joe Burrow and then marched for glory and for some the judgment seat of God and gets over those Lombardi trophies downtown some how about well this one is start off, you know, will He the studj reporters of service, every local teme Star heating and air conditioning dealers, Thamestar quality you can feel in Cincinnati

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League six oh five right here on seven out a WLW. One of the special guests will be catcher Tyler Stevenson. College basketball tonight to Miami RedHawks on the road against ken State Number twenty one. Dayton will host the Colonials of George Washington, Iowa and Indiana, and Illinois takes on Ohio State. I'm pumped up. Now, get the latest on NKU basketball tonight on the Coaches Show, six o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty. So the Ohio Senate said okay,

but the Ohio House says navah Minah. The Governor DeWine wants this thing to get off the ground, thank you. And I don't know what's going to happen. Remember, you can smoke it, you just can't buy it. Really. Bearcats twenty twenty four football schedule is out. UC opens against Townsend on August the thirty first, and host pitt the next week. The first road game is at the Miami RedHawks September fourteenth at Yager Stadium. Opener

at the NIP September twenty first against Houston. U S will also host Arizona State for the first time ever the sun Devils. Also West Virginia comes to town. Road games include facing Neon Dion at Colorado October twenty sixth. The streetcar supposedly was not going to be impacted by the one point six billion.

Now the advocates, including John Schneider, wants to extend the street on that show, Duke's a Half, that's a different John show, Okay, differently, Okay, I want to get a hold of him, get him back in. Yeah. He wants more routes for the streetcar, including Uphill Hill into Clifton, all around TQL Westernho's Viaductricy, we went to the streetcar, which, by the way, costs how much to operate? Zero zero to get on And now he wants the advocates want to use the money and build

street cars instead of public safety. We need more cops. What about all that money that's with the railroad deal? What happened? Six billion? Yeah, where's that going? The eyes of my buddy's pocket. Yes, and by the way, Charlie Luken does not support the Confederacy. Peter Bronson just said, the mayor of Cincinnati in the eighteen sixties was not Chazz. No, okay, he wanted to surrender to the Confederacy. He gave me.

The guy's name was in the book right there, Richard Todd. He wanted to get a big white flag, go down in the muddy banks to the Ohio and wave the flag. As the Confederate army lined up at Fort Mitchell to besiege Cincinnati, you'd be like a eight mons COVID. That's it by Centennial Commons, And all of a sudden you got a message from a Louisville general. General, we need you back here now. It took them two and a half weeks to march from Fort Mitchell down to Louisville. Seventy one

didn't exist at that point. Really. They marched through the woods and the creek. Sure, yeah, it was tough. I think it was only open to Sparta. And those guys were little guys like five six weight about one hundred and ten pounds. Managine that mentionine that walk. Oh I got it. They had to do was go down the river bank, didn't he Well, it's more to it than you think, because you said the river

was only five feet deep. It was often the high river was no water because in drought they didn't have dams, so in drought the river dried up. The average pool stage was five feet and sometimes there was nothing there. Imagine what's down there now measuring the mud and the filth and I miss. Have you seen the steamboats at the Serpentine Wall before it was in the mud. Yeah, dozens of them, probably a thousand of them down there. And Cole was in the island Queen. Didn't the island Queen burn down?

Yes, it did down there different times at Coney Island. Cincinnati was going to be invaded by the South. What but there was a general who saved it all from occurring. General lou Wallace from Indiana was commissioned here to get together a band of brothers to defend Cincinnati against Rob Sanders and Tony Bender. Wow, how about that? He didn't know that was going on, did you? So? So that general said no, And then what was one

of his lieutenants was John Barrett, correct Western Southern. And what happened is we would have lost because they had nine thousand soldiers of the cannons and we had squirrel shooters. But they got a message, get the Louisville immediately, so he disbanded the nine thousand March ninety miles to Louisville to help a general down there. Otherwise Cincinnati would have been taken over by the Confederacy because the mayor of Cincinnati was a sympathizer. He was going to surrender the city.

Then what would have happened to I don't know. I don't know. This was eighteen sixty two when the outcome of the war was very much in doubt. So we were unfaded by Kentuckians. Not a slave state. I strike that from the record. They were a slave state, but not in the Confederacy. They wanted to wait to see who won, so they were like

neutral like Switzerland. Whoever won, they went that way. So everybody wanted to go like the Spain and all out of World War two, everybody wanted to go to Kentucky during the Civil War because it was and waited out. It was a slave The Trumpster was involved, the Trumps trying to get he probably gets a blame for that. Lincoln was kept off ten state ballots so far. Trump's allegedly off two state ballots, and everybody get him off the ballots. I didn't know that. You told me that off the air,

couldn't. I can't believe that. And Lincoln got thirty eight percent of the vote and one that gets you nothing today today, I think that trumpster can get forty three percent of the vote. If RFK Junior is the Libertarian candidate, Trump wins. Well, yeah, the big game is coming up, of course, February the eleventh in Las Vegas. And let's see. Of course. Uh, mister Travis Kelsey is on the Chiefs and along with safety Brian Cook out of meunt Healthy High School the home of the Owls with Taylor

Swift indoors Joe Biden. I don't know average ticket price so far. Let me guess one thousand dollars nine thousand, three hundred dollars EH at Allegiance Stadium. What twenty five percent of the buyer so far come from California, San Francisco and the tech bing go. Who are you picking the Super Bowl segment? I went with the Bills. She is, she is, She gonna get there in time, that's the problem. Yes, I watched Jay Ratliffe helping her out this morning. Jay Ratliff's gonna get her here. We got

an SR seventy one Blackbird US Air Force gonna fly her here. I wouldn't doubt that and get her here in time for the game about a stealth bomber and there's a report and she's gonna pop out of the stage with usher and do a little bit of ebony and ivory. That wouldn't that be something I wouldn't put it past her. If she endorses Biden, will that sway your vote? Taylor Swift? No, you absolutely Whatever she says, I'm going the opposite, Okay, So please endorse Biden. What about the Rock?

When we ask him here? It a little bit. I think he's gonna go with Ta Ta I mean Dwayne Johnson. He's the he's the Grand Marshal of the Daytona five hundred, The Rock. He's taken over from Vince McMahon, who's had some difficulties. Slightly goes into a meeting with nothing but underwear on. I think that happens around here. It used to happen around here, not so much anymore. Correct. Iheartmedias cracked down on everything, that's for sure, and I act like a full member. Randy Michael's jumping on

the desk and pulling his pants down. Oh, we used to. We used to go around and to restaurants and have dinners and ended up in a baked potato fight. Remember those Remember that. Those are the days that men were men, harry as men, harry as men. It was all right if you got hit one with butter, but now our cream, we're gone. Corporate. No, we're a corporate responsible, corporate citizen segment. Yeah, yeah, I know, Sagan. About ten minutes we have Rick Hamilton

is here about how to lower your property taxes legitimately. Are you interested? Yeah? I got mine yesterday from Butler County. How bad is it? What was the increase? Mine was like twenty five percent. I just looked at the number and went, what the denise? Take care of this? No, that's it. Yeah, segment. Cincinnati invaded by Rob Sanders's progeny, and we survived about that. The city at that point was all built with wood. So if you launch a couple of thousand, canon show would

have been it would have been in. That's why he would have been like the Chicago fire. Here, Peter Bronson said, the mayor of Cincinnati wanted to surrender, and I'm like, well, thank god. The Louisville Confederate General said, hey, come on back here, we need you correct otherwise who knows what would have happened? Not good, no segment. Get me

out of the Stude's report. Please William and Hounter of the Rids today namee a senior director immediate relations, the one and only mister Westside himself, Larry Hearmes. What taking over for the great Rob Butcher? What happened to Rob Butcher? He's retiring? Really he's too young to retire. Thank you? Why don't you and I retire? You want this place to go to you nowhere and at some point it will. Anyway, we leave you with the

immortal words of the stood report. A little after midnight, someone will put a new cross on Fountain Square. This one stands eight feet tall. It is made out of two four x four is bolted together, standing on a platform of four four x eights. This one is unpainted, but like the other cross has a quote from the Bible verse John three point sixteen. A couple of police officers are on the square. I am on the square.

No one else is on the square, not surprising with win Chilson the single digits in downtown Cincinnati, Richard Todd News Radio doesn't no one's there to protest anything. It's too cold and I'm there. But Cincinnati had confeders of Richard is the best sympathizers going back to eighteen sixty two, and there was a protest on the square, but nobody showed up. Jeez. Coming up next

to is Rick Hamilton. How to lower your property tax bill A news radio seven hundred WLW breathe easier in your home in twenty twenty four with Zeros air duct cleaning. It's the only company afternoon every morning in front of me an hour, three or four TV monitors with all the news. In the last

few days, lot's been discussed about the Hamilton County. In fact, every county in the Great state of Ohio have had their real estate or reappraised skyrocketing numbers are all over the place, and some homeowners have sent me email saying, you know what, I have to leave my home in Coleraine Township.

I can't afford the taxes anymore. Had another guy he got a hold of me from Montford Heights saying that he bought a house out of foreclosure for his son to live in and it's doubled or tripled over the past seven or eight years, and he can't take it anymore, can't afford to live here. Is there a way out? And the answer is yes. Now one thing to think about before I put Rick Hamilton on from Appraisals first, and this

guy's an expert of this kind of stuff. When you vote for levees, which we do in Hamley County almost every time, the vote is overwhelming for the zoo levee or the Museum center levee, or the Developmental Disability services levy or the Family Services and Treatment levy, or the enigent care levee, or the Children's services levee or the mental health levee or the senior services levee or all the increase in property taxes for schools. All this goes in your tax

bill. And this seems like the last few months this has metastasized and that people are getting shocking bills. But there is a way out and Rick Hamilton is here from Appraisals first to talk about it. And first of all, Rick Hamilton, welcome, I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. And as appraiser for some twenty years. If you're a homeowner anywhere in the state of Ohio and you have you receive one of these huge bills.

Property taxes aren't do in Hamilton County for about another week. Explain the process of what you can do if you object to what the Hamlin Accounted Auditor says is the value of your home. What can a homeowner do? Rick Hamilton, Sure, thanks Bill for having me on today. There's like a three step process with the border of visions that you'll want to do. The first thing that you want to do is speak with the real estate professional about

comparable sales in your neighborhood. The values are based off of sales data in your neighborhood. And an important note on that is the effective date that we're looking at here is January first of twenty twenty three, So the best comps to use are sales from the end of twenty twenty two, So just keep that in mind. We're not really looking at today's value of the house.

We're looking at a retrospective date of January first and twenty three. So almost all of us have received these increases, and so if you want to contest us, what you have the right to do you're talking about the value of your home more than a year ago on one one twenty three, so you have to sequester maybe the last six months for the last year of twenty twenty two. Correct, that's right, that's the best way to do that.

And then if you go from there and you do feel that your property is ever valued, and when you're doing that comparable sales search, you want to speak with a realtor obviously in appraisers coming in handy there as well, or just do maybe some research on your own to see what's sold, if you keep up with what's going on in your neighborhood. And then if you feel that property is overvalued, then you're going to need to collect some evidence to

state your case. The best thing to do, obviously is have a real estate appraisal done, and that's something that someone like myself can help with. There's a couple other things that you can do. If you've got documentation, say you've sold or you bought your house in the last three years and you've

got that contract from that, you can use that. If you've got some hosts from some repairs that are needed on your house, you can use those as well to show that your property's got some deferred maintenance and you need to lower the value because of that. And then you know, obviously, like I said, if you have an appraisal done on the house, then you'll

submit that with your form. If you go to the Hamilton County Auditor's website, you click on the Border Revision, you'll find the necessary forms that you need. I think it's like two pages, so it's not too terrible. And you'll submit that complaint and then all of your evidence to the Border Revisions by March thirty first, And that's an important date. You can't email this,

You've got to send it in via mail by March thirty first. All right, Now, many many years ago, I represented somebody who wanted to go to the Border Revision and I anticipated it would be somewhat of a formal proceeding. I discovered that the form at that point was one page. We had a real estate appraiser such as yourself, to actually do the appraisal.

It's always better to show up with evidence. If you simply show up in the front of the three person Border revision and to start talking, that's interesting, but you need evidence, and so to have an appraiser done to have an appraisal done, and then secondly to come in saying, well, these

are pictures of the work needing to be done. And I found the three individuals sitting there are very happy to lower the amount of the appraisal if very happy to do so because they kind of want to, They kind of want to middle the thing almost. But if you show up without an appraisal done on your home, and show up without pictures as to the work needing to be done, you're less likely to win the appeal. Correct, Yeah,

that's correct. Yeah. You want as much evidence as you can muster up for your for your appeal, and then that process, that hearing process. Obviously this year is going to be somewhat unique, but based on the sheer volume of calls that we've been getting so far, you know, I anticipate they're getting a lot of calls from a lot of homeowners. But generally, in the past, the hearings take place, you know s they made August.

Generally in that period they require a fifteen minute hearing if you go down to the border revisions. But there's some cases where they may agree and this is where probably a real estate appraisl will help you the most. If you submit all of your documentation with a real estate appraisal and they agree, then they do what's called an expedited hearing. They just agree with the value and

there's no need to come down to the border visions at all. And so sometimes this is done informally in which they say, okay, you win and we'll lower it. And if it doesn't happen, what happens at the hearing itself. I've not been down there for like twelve to fifteen years. So what happens You come in, You have a good appraisal from a company like yours. You've got a couple of pictures saying, well my house. Nobody from the auditor's office actually went through your home. No one walked into your

house and took pictures. They simply from ten thousand feet looked down and they simply gave values based upon sales. What happens actually at the border revision hearing. You're a home owner, you're living Springfield, you live in Columbus, you live in Adams and Hamlet a county. You go down. What happens at the hearing? You walk in, and first of all, do you need an attorney? Because Chris Finny's a good friend of mine. He does some of this work too. But I found out not having an attorney is

not a problem in this case if you have a good appraiser. Is that correct? Yeah, that's correct. I'd say the overwhelming majority of homeowners, just residential homeowners, can go down and do all of this on their own without an attorney. If you have a commercial property, you definitely want to get an attorney. It's a whole different animal there. If you have a complex residential property of say there's something really unique about the property, or the

value is significantly off. I'm talking hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not a million dollars off, that's probably worth getting an attorney. And lastly, if you just want some representation down there, because it's important to note that as a real estate appraiser, if I go down there with you, I can only defend my real estate appraisal. You get asked questions about my appraisal, and I can defend my appraisal. I can't be an advocate for you

in any way. So if you feel like you need an advocate, you need representation, then by all means you you'd want to get an attorney. But as far as the hearing is concerned, yeah, you're going down in front of the board, which I believe is you know, the auditor a, Lisha Reese and Jill Schiller, the three member board there and they have a team of staff appraisers that look over appraisals and if they have any questions about av A bad then all that would come up there, or any questions

about the evidence that you submitted, that would come up there. And then, like I said, you were generally in an out in fifteen minutes. And as I recall it, doesn't the homeowner normally win very rarely do they don't. They try to middle the thing and say, okay, you got a good appraiser here from Rick Hamilton of Appraisals. First you got this. We didn't walk through the house. We eyeballed it from ten thousand feet.

If you have a good appraiser, doesn't the homeowner normally win something? Yeah, that's a good question. We have never been able to find any like statistics to show of all the cases that they see how many they win and how many they lose. So I couldn't give you any hard numbers on that, but generally speaking, when people are looking into this and you're going to the extent of having an appraisal done, then you've probably got a good case.

And I think your odds of winning are pretty high. And it's a fifteen minute. Many people are simply intimidated, saying, well, I don't want to go down. I guess it's in the todd Portoon building now right, it's a cross street from the coreouse. And if you just spend a little bit of time and that if they save you money, which normally happens, you get that for the next three years every year. Correct. That's correct. And in Hamilton County's case, you can actually go to the auditor's

website and there's a calculator on there. If you go into the text area, there's a calculator on there that you can put in, you know, if my taxes were to be lowered to this amount, and you'll see what those savings are. I mean, the reality bill is everyone we've had a three years of very extreme appreciation in the real estate market, so everyone can expect an increase, like not going to get away from that, but a lot of those increases could be too high, you know, like you mentioned

earlier. This is a big algorithm that the auditors plug in. They don't go visit four hundred thousand properties individually, so they're plugging all this in. They're spinning some numbers out, and sometimes those numbers are off. But you can go use that calculator to see what those savings are and then you can

determine. You know, hey, if my house is three hundred versus three fifty, and I'm going to save that over a three year period, then it makes to go that it makes sense to go spend a couple hundred bucks on on appraisal. And it's fair to say that the appraisal done by the auditor's office is not as particular and detailed as your appraisal would be. That's

correct. Yeah, we go into adjustments for condition and quality and all those things that the auditor just wouldn't know because they didn't come through your house. So you would encourage homeowner if you think the real estate taxes, you can't complain that I can't afford to pay it. The issue is what is the market value of your home as of one one twenty three, And that's the

only issue. It's a nuts and bolts it's not like being fair. I'm sorry your your husband died or or some other event took place, I had to file bankruptcy. This is about the value of your home on one one twenty three. It's a nuts and bolts thing, and a good appraiser will trump what the auditor has done because they've not gone through the home of the homeowner. They've not done a detailed appraiser appraisal. Is that fair to say?

Yeah, that's correct. And one of the biggest misconceptions is someone may look at what their neighbors assessed value is then try to make that argument, well, hey, John lives next door to me is assessed lower than mine. The Border Visions won't take that argument. They're like you said, they're looking at the actual values from comparable sales that have sold, not what someone else's assessed value is. Now what role Hamilton County has more special levies than

any other county maybe in the world. I'm looking at the list here, the Zoo Levee, the Museum Center Levee, the Developmental Disability Services Levee, the Family Services and Treatment Levee and Care Levee, the Children's Services Levee, the Mental health care levee, of course, the library levee, the Senior services levee, and all the schools. Uh, you do work all over Ohio. Does Hamilton County have more of these voted special levees than any other

county? Well? Yeah, I feel like everybody's got a lot of taxes. I don't know the answer to that specifically if, but it certainly feels that way, and some of the more populated urban counties that have an urban city center, it does appear that way. But but yeah, it's also important to note that if your appeal is more than fifty thousand dollars difference, then the school, the local school district can appeal your appeal. And that's

another situation where you would want to get an attorney involved. That's very rare on the residential side. That happens more commercially because you know, in those instances you're talking about possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars, but it's pretty but they do have that option. The school board can or the school the district can get involved if your appeal is more than a fifty thousand dollars difference. And you've been doing this for about twenty years, you know, where the

bodies are buried all over Hambleton County. And I would encourage people that are unhappy with their property tax bill, don't curse the darkness. Go light a candle. It is not a big deal to go through the Board of Revision. Is that fair to say? It's rather informal, that's fair to say. And I would just encourage your listeners to just give me a call five one three, six nine eight eight zero seven zero, and you can just

ask me questions about your specific situation. If it's not something I can help you with, I'll point you in the right direction. But glad to help. That's five one, three, six nine eight eighty seventy appraisals First, Rick Hamilton and Rick, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. When

we do this every three to four years, people are just shocked. But in reality, it's the market value of your home as of one one twenty three and and having gone through it once or twice as an attorney, it's rather informal and each time we kind of may use the term one the case they knocked it down a little bit. But you have to have a legitimate appraisal done in your hand and saying this is what's wrong, and guys like

you can get it done. Rick Hamilton of Appraisals First, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We'll do it again in about three years. All right, Thanks Bill and God bless America. Thank you very much.

All right, let's continue and when you vote all these levies. I'm looking at the list enagen Care Levy funds, University of Cincinnati Medical Center, Cincinnati Children's Hospital, Hamny County Sheriff, Inmate Medical, Hamilton County Juvenile Court, Inmate Medical, Mental Health and Recovery Services Board, the Hamony County Public Health, the Central Clinic, the Saint Vincent de Paul Charitable Pharmacy, Strategies

to End Homelessness, Hamilton County Probate Court, Civil Commitment Process, Hamilty County Job and Family Services, Hamilty County Mental Health and Recovery Services, the Library Levee, the Council Aging of Southwestern Ohio, Hamilton County Job and Family Services, Adult Protective Services, Hamly County Veteran Services, Utterly Veteran Assistance, in addition to the Talbot House Prevention First Cincinnati Union Bethel, Hamony County Developmental Disabilities

since II Museum Center, the Zoo, and the Bananaco Gardens and more. We vote for more of these levees constantly. They never fail than any county within the sound of my voice. And so this is the consequence of increasing your property taxes that Warren County and Claremont County much less. Northern Kentucky and southeastern Indiana doesn't have to deal with because we pay for all of this. So the next time you vote for one of these levees, think about your

property tax bill. So let's continue with more. But I would encourage you to go to Hamlety County Auditor's website, it's called the Board of Revision and download the two page form, fill it out, and then you're going to get a hearing date sometime between May and August and several weeks and then go into the that informal proceeding uh with someone like Rick Hamilton six nine eight eighty seventy with a good appraisal, and you there's no guarantees in life, but

the hearings that I watched, every time the homeowner went in they won something. So don't curse the darkness. Light a candle, download the form, get a good appraisal, and away you go. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham seven hundred WLW, especially time to SCons I listen at work because he's really doing my job. Sucks. Oh, I like Steers. This is WLW Cincinnati fifty thousand, one Clear Channel, Voice of the Reds.

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at night, and more. What you need when you need it. We're Cincinnati Radio, seven hundred l W. Hello quiet, I'm I'm broadcasting many issues Rock so little time. Fire Away Number one. Peter Pan is going to be resurrected on Broadway. But there's a problem with the depiction of Native Americans. According to a character. You know Peter Pan very well, of course, was that tinker Bell? Was that the deal oxy white Mail? It was very hurtful to watch Peter fan. Native people are the ones who

can't seem to master English. There's an assumption that we exist for white men to kill, rape and hunt, to see our reality put out there. And something funny is silly, difficult and painful. So they're going to remake the characters of Peter Pan. This is for a Broadway Playway. If they're not learning anything from Disney. He's remaking these movies and they absolutely bomb.

They lose money, hand over fists. So they're gonna do the same thing here to appease like the five people in the world that are offended by this, and it's gonna lose a ton of money, So I say do it. Peter. Peter Pan, according to fast Horse, promotes a rape culture. Of course, Peter Pan. He's a guy in a green suit with a hat on and it flies around like an androgynoust male. Is he you know what I mean? Like I don't know. He's not like a like

a tough guy male like a I don't runs around on a leotard. I can't wait to go see this me neither. He's a little green guy in a leotard. You buy him your flying you the guy with the wand and touches somebody and see, this is what happens when there's not like actual real problems. Correct, we invent problems, got to find mythical races. Why you should want a life that's hard. You want to have challenges in life, because if you don't, you sit around and worry about are there really

only two genders or is there more like ten? I haven't need to have a challenge. You need hardships in life. Don't run from hardships, accept them and endure them. Well, this guy, this for us, is angry. Now what about Peter Bronson coming Queer Bronson on like two months ago? I know, but I'm about halfway through that book. It's really really good. Cincinnati, we had a mayor that was in favor of the Confederates.

He was going to surrender Cincinnati, the Covington and he was going to surrender, take the flag down there and wave it around saying we stopped. Don't bomb that, don't don't can, we don't want that. Thank God. That General Louisville, a Confederate, said I need you guys down here, and he marched down to Louisville and saved Cincinnati. How about that one? Amazing and the high river was five feet deep or less because there was no damn, so you could walk across. So they put pontoon boats ready

to invade. They were going to go, but then he got the message from a rider Louisville saying the Confederate general there marched down there, and he left it, picked up his cannons and marched ninety miles away down I seventy one got there two weeks later. Now, thirdly, what about the Confederates book right here? Is that pretty good? I just got through the part we're on on Shiloh in the Civil War really detailed. Is that the guy that has arm shot off or something? Well, there's yeah, a lot

of guys head there were tough. They were tough, like I said, they weren't worried about it, like you pan was a toxic mail or not, because you're actually getting cannonballs and fifty caliber mini balls shot at you right now now, crushing your femur. Now number three, come on, number three. The Confederate flag and Harrison got toilets. Now it's got toilet pass.

There's rumors you put the toilet around the flag. I don't applaud the flag with the toilets with the ones on her pretty good council, pretty good, Doug Abrams, Rey akra, Yeah, the one the expression mouse selling out, Harrison selling out Harrison, I thy good money. I think it's isn't it art? I don't know? Is that a rape culture? By the way, you're promoting with Peter Pan, Taker Bell? Of course, Tiger Bell? What do you think? Yeah? But I read this Who's

next? The Mickey Mouse? Peter Pan, Who's next? Bugs Bunny? I like Almer Fudd, I like Coyote, I like that guy. I like the road another top road runner, toxic male killing people, white supremacy. I can't wait to go see this play, can you? You wouldn't catch me there to dead? I can't wait. And again there will no one will see this in New York. No one will. There's Peter Pan, and we want to present. Now look at that guy. Does that look like like a toxic male rape culture? Kind of guys? Like a

chick? He said, dude, looks like a chick. There we go again, fast Horse says, what does he say? He said, it's so smart, so witty. We clearly have got the picture Native Americans in a positive light. Fast Horse on Indigenous people are not here to allow white men to engage in rape and murder. Now there's another Indian group that wants the Redskins, the Commanders to go back to the of the rest of the Indians want the name back to Redskins. So what do you do about that?

What about that drunk and high school? And what about the Red Hawks Anderson's become the Raptors, That's right, they changed. Would Notre Dame get rid of that drunken dwarf you have running around depicting irishman negative light? What about that one? That little dwarf over there that trust me? Notre Dame is uh going down a dark path right now? In a few ways, they have certain classes that are interesting about transsexual rights. Transitioning fits right in

with the Catholic aspect of the Foundation, I'm sure, absolutely absolutely. And Saint Mary's is androgynists and tried to make his way west, got caught in a snowstorm in South Bend, Indiana, decided to found his great college right there. That story, who was it, Father Soorn, father Soren?

What year like eighteen eighteen thirty right here? I think South Bend. Well, he wanted to he wanted to go to California, but he got caught in a snowstorm and said, boys, we gotta we've gotta get something going here. So he made him in South Bend, Indiana. I thought that was a lousy place one hundred and fifty years and it's still is. But what the cheese? But Peter Pan is the next could have been there in Orangetownty, California. We're in South Bend, Indiana. The mistreatment of animals,

who's next, Pluto? I don't know. This guy says they want to investor the cat. What about the they want to sell his name the rooster, Daffy horn leghorn, Thank you, Coxic Fast Tour says Peter van is called a serious harm and the indigenous people's community. Did Peter Pan know that? Is he? Is? He responsible for the serious harm? Unbelievable. I can't wait to go see it. A guy. If you call a guy a your pan, that is a draw like you're a sissy Mary

like. So you can't say sissy either. I don't can't. I don't know. But that's fly in which we live, Peter Pan, because these guys don't deal with real problems and real issues. They're going to invent some examine all. They're going to examine monogyny, misogyny and also the big stain on Native culture. I can't wait to go see that. One's been about one hundred bucks for a ticket. Let's go see Peter Pan being castrated. Wouldn't walk across the street. I don't think they had to cut a pair

of them anyway. I mean, they're in the original Peter Pan. It was a woman played Peter Pan because he was like an effeminate kind of guy, right, like a hell and Martin or something like that. A little Peter Pan flopping around. Yeah, I don't know. He says, Hey, Peter Pan, won't you They're they're calling you a name. They're not calling you a aggressive, strong male. They're calling you. You can't say that. You can't say segment. Give me some sports. We got problems?

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money. That would have been but you got San Francisco. Now the only guy in Detroit with money is Dan Gilbert and Matt Collin. Have we solved the Taylor Swift problem? We got to play postpone the concert if she moved it up a little bit. Jay Ratliffe is on the case. Jay Ratliffe says they got a Blackbird SR. Seventy one, but it hadn't been in service. It's like eighty going to get one ready and fire it up. He's getting get a health bomber and she will be there, She says,

she will be there for the Super Bowl. She's gonna fly sixteen hours one way, sixteen hours back and celebrate with Kelsey on the field, her and Travis smooching on the field with confetti coming down. At this point, the world's over, as we know. If they win, then they will win. Then they're gonna have a sign that says Biden for President. They won kelsey an anthem, kneeler. If I recall, probably he's a liberal kind of a guy. Travis sudlight bud light, So we'll see about that.

He was drinking bud light. In other words, if she endorses Biden, will out make a difference. Well, I'm sure you're reverencing the same article I saw this said one in five young people will base their decision on what Taylor Swift says. She really want to delve into that, though she did. We're gonna win, and we're gonna help. We have plans to build a railroad the specific all the way across the name Ocean. This is my

favorite one right there, Indian Ocean Railroad board. That's going to be some dense, hairy I can't say that, can't say Indian, can you? With Regarding the filibuster, I believe we should go back to a position in the filibuster that existed just when I came to the United States Senate one hundred and twenty years ago. That's our leader. What if we had legitimate media? Do that means not a joke? Everybody that's why we were defeated in

twenty eighteen when they tried to do it. We went from fifty four states, Why do you do that? I think we got a problem this every day America is a nation that can be defined in a single word. I don't I don't know what the word is. What about the Harry later and we have that sound bite little black boys wanted to rub my hairy legs. Yeah, he called them roaches. By the way, could you imagine a Republican you got so many cutstakes that, I got so many of them.

What if we had legitimate media that was say, now, wait a minute, we got a dysfunctional president. They can't read a teleprompter, losing his mind. He thinks there's fifty four states. Of course, Obama said there were fifty seven states. The two of them. That's one hundred eleven states. He's in the state of anxieties the British Kingdom. All of what we do, I got Harry legs, Harry legs, turn one, then my legs. Okay, yeah, that's right, legs. Yeah, man,

come back up. We can't it's always set to see you can't make it up segment, that's for sure. No, he's our president. By the way, I want to thank Greg Hoag who sent me a book called One Man's Wilderness. It just opened it up. I guess it's about a guy who went out to Alaska and just lived off the land. I often talk about how that's what I want. I've seen some Eventually you want to go up. Thank you for the book. Live like off grid, just get

away from all this. The taxes, taxes, bs b s, off all those levee Did you think people when they they realized that there's half of those they do that individually? And how do you vote against a hungry senior citizen or something disabled kid? How do you vote against zoo animals about to be released if the levee doesn't pass because they got to be fed. I read the list that somebody. Then the live that's the one I can't. I cannot. Then the tax bill comes, people go nuts, Where did

this come from? Well, you voted, you voted for Yeah, this county they've hated. When's the last time the levee or failed? I've asked, last time something failed? Around in him? I mean, what didn't work? Didn't Deeters try to another jail and not not down flames. And that's the last thing I can remember that went down down something we you know, actually need a bunch of school levies still haven't passed school. Things that

are like kind of important, but these other things are not important. Past all the time, seventy library, we'll get any books not easily passed. Yeah, nobody goes reads books sake, it's online, it's on TikTok. I'm just saying, well, you're defending Peter Pan and tinker Bell. Something's wrong with you. You probably you probably you were probably gonna play a deer park as Peter Pan. I might have been running around with makeup on.

And that's making fun of Indians and raping and killing them. That's what they say. That's what fast Horse says. Checked the background, legitlemen, if your name is a fast Horse, you're probably in Can you say Indian? No? What do you get him on? Get on fast Horse? Yeah? All right, what's on the big show today? Rocket? Well, we have your girlfriend right out of gate, Tanya, former girlfriend. Sorry say for me, And so we're gonna talk about the violence going on downtown

a little bit. The hell's going on? It's not good downtown. Get beat up and you know, how do you jump in the middle of Someone said, how come you didn't get in there and defend them? These two women's I said, are you kidding me? They would have kicked the crap out of the rock. Maybe not Johnson, but boyman, could you handle eight of them kicking you and punching? You know? If I had my sig P three sixty five in my probably, but then you'll be indicted.

If you know, then you got issues. Man. I don't know. That's why I just don't go down there. Not My family say, get me out of the Stooge's report, please, Well they an honor of a rainy day here in the Tri State, and hopefully the sun will shine soon. Peter Pan wants the rape Indians. According to Jennifer Ketch, Mark, I leave you with the immortal words of the stewed report. You've talked about using some of Trump's money you're about to get to help shore up women's rights.

Do you know what that might be, what that might look like? Yes? Tell me I had such such great ideas for all the good I'm going to do with this money. First thing, Rachel, you and I go shopping to get completely new Wardrobes, recycle Forwley, fishing rod for Robbie Rachel. What do you want Penhouse? Rachel, Penhouse and France? You want France? You want to go fishing in France? No, all right,

that's a joke. If if me fishing in France could do something for women's rights, I would take the Let me let me ask as if you need persuasion in that regard. Let me let me finish with the final question. Eighty eight eighty three million dollars for defamation. Yeah. We live in a country where you can't even lock someone up for like a real crime, but defamation. You can't faint somebody. And she has no character anyway, no care. She's on any video talking about rape. And she said at

one point rap is a good thing. He will like it or something. Jean Carroll said that, but segment can't take it. Thank you very much for your involvement. Anytime arrest Peter Pan and Tinkerbell immediately they're rapist, Rocky, thank you. You talked to Tanya Rourke about this on news radio seven hundreds WLW woll