Unexpected Visitors! | Washington

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to the west there. But welcome back to the show. Ben. How's it going great?

But the interesting encounters with them is they don't want to say too much because they ask you a lot of questions and everything, and I've never been able to get them to really I mean, when they see us, they always talk about our research out there, and they want to talk about it. They get interested, but they really don't say too much on their side.

We actually talked to the D and R offs about it and he was asking us about it, so we told him and we showed him where it was at and everything to the ass and approximately I think it was about a week and a half later, that area was logged out and they had brought a bunch of dirt in and completely covered that area from they were working on the bridge. They're putting the bridge back and we're trying to figure out why they would put dirt. It's almost like two miles away dumped the dirt in

that particular spot, which was strange. We thought, we thought it was strange. So and so and seven out of the seven area sites we have, they've logged five of them and closed off those areas. So we're pretty much tight lift about what we're doing with them. Now, we don't say too much completely it could be completely coincidence, so they'll get me wrong. All of a sudden, you see these flags pop up in the areas are getting

logged out. It doesn't change the bigfoot activity. Actually, it just means it just makes it more difficult because they like to have cover and stuff like that, so it just makes it they're coming from a different way or whatever.

having going on with the big twit or whatever. Sometimes the areas are like strangely quiet, I would say, and we'll get infrasound out there, partial parts of it like letting heard or sometimes you can get dangerous levels too, which is around seven seven herds. So and they're just sporadic, they're not continuous, but you could have you know, like a earthquakes, and we don't texts everything, so unfortunately you have to be really careful on your findings. You can't

just say everything's a big foot out there. There's a lot of environment involved in.

for sound with this device. Can you talk a little bit more about that.

or whatever. We can't, you know, we can't just say that's part of part of the thing that I'm just noting that in their vocalizations they do have some kind of infersound in some of their vocalization. Not all the vocalizations have that, but some of the some of thos do.

these partial infrasound or you're running the other monitor. We have both. We have handhelds and that, but you partially get some things where it'll show eleven herbs and everything, and it's different hurts. It can affect people differently. You can make you physically sick, give you headaches, you can start seeing things, hearing things. I like to say, we actually had research other where you thinks you were minds speaking with him and I just kind of like roll

my eyes. But I've never experienced that in anybody else out there has and just been taking the beds and he just leaves in the mind speaking thing. So, but I believe that's the cause of that, because when he was actually seeing he thought this was going on. I actually got readings of eleven hurts out there, which was an infra sound and there's nothing. There was no planes going over at the time or any kind of wind or anything going on. So I assume that might maybe

that way. It could be. He's a very intelligent person. I'm just no one to think that he's crazy, you know, sure, but I tell him, you know, I'm not experiencing anything out there on that particular level.

app physical league, but that is one of them. I do know my personal experience, and I'll tell you where I related to where I got interested in the imperson the first service because at an incident where I was with my wife down Charlie, I was taking a nap in the back of my RV and I was waiting for it to get dark. And this was later in the evening and she had heard something out there rustling around behind a big stump out there. She said, there's

something out there. People come looking back up. So I kind of like jumped off the back of the RV, took about two steps, and actually before I even actually hit the ground, I was already projectile vomiting. I mean it was it was ruthless. I mean, I couldn't stop, you know, heaving. It was just like, oh, you know. I threw my hands up in the air and they called basically back in RV and I said it in there for the next twelve hours dry heating, and it

was just a terrible experience. It was like death worn rover from that that experience. And it lasted for twelve hours, like I said, And the next morning I was fine, no physical, you know, lasting thing from it or whatever. I didn't have a headache or anything. It was just being sick. And then actually I went back into but the next weekend I went back out about a quarter mile away from that site, and actually, as I was doing some recording some some vocalizations which were Aluman came

across the road from me. It hit me again. And there's no you don't feel it coming. You don't feel any like you don't people talking about the game as and like electric. It doesn't hit you. You just don't know. It just hits you. You just start I just start heaving. And that lasted for about four hours, and it did the same thing to me. It just basically incapacitated for you can't do anything.

I'd been there for a while, but definitely the first time I jumped and I was heading in that direction where my wife had heard the sound and it was not probably fifty feet away, and I believe I had my phone in my hand at the time or to take pictures or get pictures of it, or my gun. I can't remember because I was so missed up afterwards. But anyway, that was definitely I was running towards a creature and I got basically that's what I got from that,

and it stopped me dead in my tracks. But it was just sally unique because I didn't feel intigling, didn't feel anything. I was, just, like I said, literally in miday or jumping off my back of my RV. And I was not sick. I was I've never been that sick of my life, actually, and twice within a week that happened. But I've never been that sick. But I had no indications of anything. I was completely fine. I hadn't even eaten yet, so there was no reason to be sick. But I didn't. It's not like a true

symptoms if it was just checked albomitting. So terrible experience, but that's that's a defensive response. I believe that the adults have and like I said, affects people different ways. And then I don't think I've talked that off to was infra sound. That would the only think it would be possibly you know where it could possibly be.

we walked up we were calling them out there. I don't remember that big.

most night. You might they knock sometimes and found them rocks or you know, rock clock or something, but other than that, they don't do too much in response.

It was just shaking it, and like I said, check off guard, so he pulled his gun. It was you know, it's scared. There's just a reaction for him. But anyway, as it did it, you could actually hear it take two steps and stop, which is unusual for him. Normally we hear them they just run away. It sounds like a big heavy guy at darg out. Just they just tear off. And you hear this wie pedal feet running

off this into two steps and just stood there. And I didn't even actually know what to do because it kind of caught me off guard because I had just turned off my thermal camera. I was gonna stand it, and I said, I really didn't want to pop that thing back up there and turn it on. And I says, hmm. But when we heard the branch break behind us on the other part of the road, we thought, oh, okay, they always do like to flank you. They do. They an'ts do that a lot. We thought, well, it was

best to leave it alone. Just we're too close to us in the build. Okay, he was probably within eight eighteen peep. We just couldn't see him and the other side of the tree. So we just kind of like, well, we'll just want to run back up to the trucks. Especially what we did, because it did they actually caught us off guard in a bad situation.

So now this so, Chuck, we've put that thing wait for her, you know her flow this year and which last year we actually had the same kind of incident where one come in down on just on Camp Charlie, also at the west end, and that's the one you're recording to think I sent you there where it sounds like it's talking kind of like it's but we had to make sure it wasn't a bear or whatever because it did sound bear like. But there's no blackbird going to come into camp down and where we were at.

So and we actually I had it sent off to the state. The guy that actually used to work for State of Washington wild just for the State of Washington. He examined that and he said, let's not a bear. And I had David Ellis do it because we just didn't want to pop off and say this was, uh a bear or not a bear, So we just there. Everybody we send it to, we had five people of validated it wasn't a bear.

respond to things. So they definitely don't like guns.

that they don't have that ability. I don't know what the word I wanted to use was, really, uh how many? How many or whatever would probably be something in our past, because they don't seem to have past that. It seems to be like ape like thinking. You know, they're smart, I would put it in. I would have to say they're above a little bit above eight, but they're not quite human on their problem solving skills. Gotcha if that

makes sense to you, Yeah, that's it. That's what I've gathered and that's what I'm studying, is all their behaviors and stuff like that in regards to how they react and how their thinking is. But they are smart for their environment. Like I said, that's why people. A lot of people get confused because they are adapted for the forest out there and all their abilities and everything tends to do that. On their hunting skills, I mean, they're impressive.

That's why I always say it's impressive on theirs hunting skills and stuff like that, and the way they use stealth, but that's adapted for their environment. I mean it's I always tell them, I says, well, if they were a human, they probably be used taking roll of toilet paper or something else with them out there or whatever. But in their structures that they're building, it's pretty primitive and basic. So a lot of people give like to giving human

qualities where I disagree. I don't see any human qualities regarding that at.

this brush noise or whatever, they'll start throwing rocks. And that's what usually gives you indications that, Okay, I'm dealing with a bigfoot, not an elk out there, or you get or you might there's a lot of factory because we don't like to call everything because it's fooling yourself, right, I mean, there's other creatures out there, and a lot of people like to call, you know, say oh that's a big foot. That's a big foot, that's a big foot, or I get the typtical, Oh that's a deer, that's

an alk, that's a squirrel. You know, And it's easy for people to do that. When I give them recordings, they'll sit there and say, there spy different creatures sitting right there. Oh that's a you know, let's say it's a knocking sound, Well that's a elk, it's deer on a rubbing on a tree, and that other sound there, that other knocking sound. There's a squirrel opening, you know, cracking, and that opened up front a stone, and all this stick your head because you know they don't want to

put these things all together. And then they'll sit there and say, well, I don't know what that sound is. You know, we'll get it like a raspy sound or something, and they say, well, I can't identify that, but the rest of them is definitely. All these other creatures in there, deer, an elk, and bear are all in the same area, in the same spot. It makes no sense, you know. But again, we don't like to say everything is that. We have to go through a lot of stuff on

our audios to make sure. You know, we're just saying it's unknown. We know it's not a deer. We just take things off the listically, well, that's not an elk. We know that's not a deer. That's not a coyote,

that's out of cougar. I mean, there's so many different animals out there, and we get fooled every once in a while, like a nighthawk will make it sound like sounds like a roaring sound out there, and I was totally amazed when David but they told me the night off and sure enough, that's what it was when we went to mcculay library. He's really good at that stuff. So for identification, did you get a lot of misidentification people us all here, you know? And they can cause

that too. Let me back at up a little bit, because they, like said on mimicking on their oil mimicking, they're very very good. It's very difficult to tell the difference between the real isle and them, and you have to relate other things going on. Sometimes we'll hear uh. One time I heard a vocalization, Uh, three vocalizations come out of the same spot. We heard a kyo an now, and I heard a squatch call, all in the same general area. So like you have to you have to

really look into your stuff. And like we're doing this so we don't. We're just there's nobody in here we're playing for that. We just share these things we already out with you or whatever. But people can hear these things. But there's no game for us to hoax ourselves or you know, but well, this fooling ourselves for any kind of personal game. If we're not writing any kind of books. We're not you, we're not on the stage, we're not receiving monetary days whatsoever. So and all this is the

money that we put in. So there's there's no reason for us to fool on another or anybody else.

your tactics and everything. So all this equipment costs. Anybody, you hate putting money into something that you're you're not getting gaining anything from, Like the thermal cameras, you've got several thousands of dollars worth of the thermal camera between all of this, probably because of the fifty thousand and yet we haven't produced anything on those. That's what's frustrating. But we are audios. We have audio stuff all the time.

They work constantly, they're always pulling in information on the audios. The game camera is another one. You tried to put a lot of buy a new and newer equipment to get you know, we're trying to find your career out. How they're doing it by the way, Uh, we get something on those, but sometimes you get so caught up and just trying to get audios and you know we've put game during Cambridge up to all the time, but you get frustrated when that equipment gets destroyed or so

many steals it or whatever. You lose a lot of money also, but it's frustrating not getting like says this year, I'm more concentrated on getting the thermal than you did, more than I am the audios. So that makes sense.

can only pick up so much stuff. The thunder and like I said, the quality people how we have to set up stuff, you know, is because they come in from different directions. Now that the drone can cover a lot more area, but the fool egine there is really thick. So and like I said, when you're flying over the canopies and everything, they can't always see down in that stuff.

There's no thermal sperm military style that's going to and you're you're talking about a lot more expensive equipment trying to get those kind of you know, the drones like we like to have, like the Air Force and the military used. It'd be great, but we don't have that kind of stuff. We don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars, you know, drones. We're only looking at six thousand dollars drones.

the audio for it all. It's all evidence that went not just one thing, because not one piece of evidence is not going to be compelling to people to believe one thing or the other. If you get multiple images, if we say the ground part as well as the aerial part of it, along with the audios and some tracks and everything is more compelling.

on coming into this particular area? What are they doing? It's the hunting area go things. You can only speculate that is that we would like to see what they're doing. So it isn't worth so evidence that to other people that they exist or whatever. It's just to show that the we're hearing out there coincide for what we're seeing by supports.

I mean, there's there's better thermal imaging where you know, check. I think it's actually he's getting uh, you're working with another group in their with their they're mending with some thermals with it are tripped out there kind of like game cameras and they're taking video video. I don't like to talk about his stuff too much because we all have different goals as research is out there, so his field is different than mine. We all do a combination everything.

Like I said, when I'm staying in behaviors and stuff like that, and he's more into audio and the game cams. Kevin has his stuff, and like I say, it depends on what the person say who were working with the goals they want to set. We try to help each other to get those, you know, achieve their goals exactly. Most people, if you want to take most if they want to go out there and just have an account,

we do that everyone. So we take people out there for they can have their little group encounters or whatever. This experienced the vocalizations or see him playing out there and at the game cams. I'm not a game camp, but the kim lights and all that stuff. That's this. We call it dinner and a show basically what it is.

their little experiments. In this picture, a couple of one to put up kim lights across road and this is the same actually where I got that second attack on the in for sound, but they actually I didn't call blasting and called them in. This was really strange too. It was the middle of hunting season. We had a

lot of smoke out there. There was a forest fire I think to the south, and there was a lot of smoking in that area and I really wouldn't expect anything to happen that night, but they all wanted to go out that night. So there were seven individuals and those were hunters that I had just picked up. We had they want. David found that we were doing so they wanted to join in and said, okay, so I had

funny chairs. So we're all sitting out there across the road and we did some call busting, and sure enough, about twenty five minutes later, we heard some it's a movement coming in And I don't sit there constant call busted, a few calls and we wait and see if they come in. And normally if there's an adults come in or whatever, they'll make a bunch of noise. And that's why we experienced. We started hearing a lot of brush

movement around us. And as we were sitting there and we were just sitting there kind of just whispering and everything talking. We looked across the road there and we see these kim lights. Movie. We end up playing with these kim lights. I mean they're banging them and stuff like that. They didn't tear them off and throw them whatever. But the interesting thing is that we started getting vocalizations where we started hearing like a wounded deer sound, which

I never heard before. And I wish I had no recorders going at the time, because I said I would love it because I've heard that other people say talk about this wounded deer sound. I had never heard it before until that night, and we were hearing wounded deer. We were hearing whistling, We heard a couple of little knocks, and then we actually heard a male out there vocalized for real, like a real ah sound, and then stop.

And this went on for a couple hours. But the whole thing was is let people experience that and say, oh, okay, this wait, because I don't go out there and tell people what to think. I said there and say, well, you let me know what you're seeing out there and hearing and what your experience is, because then you can be skeptical or not so skeptical or whatever. You can decide for yourself. I don't tell people what this this is what we're doing without it, I think so, and

they were and they get all excited. I mean there's really a lot of excitement in other part, and you know, we get individs try to walk over to them and say no, you don't want to do that, and they

actually just withdraw. I mean, it kind of ruins. What I'm trying to do is I said, just sit there, let the people, you know, everybody experience this, and don't approach them on telling these and there's don't don't approach them because they're just going to withdraw, which they did, and said, then you can ruin the experience for people, and you know, trying to get we we stream people, you know. I always when you take people out doing anything, just kind of like, oh, don't do that, you know.

I tell people to think that they wanted to try to get closer or whatever, but they's ruined their own experience. That's what I say. If you just sit here, let them do the thing, they'll do their little thing and then they'll leave.

to them. If I can get some couple of responses on this, I'll use that next time. But if you use it too many times, they'll stop responding to it. That makes they're smart that way they adapt to it.

But what I'm doing is letting people experience certain things. Just let them, you know whatever. Because some people tried to turn it into a camp out and they'll build a fire out there, which I usually don't like have fires out there because they usually stay away. And uh. And then you get to the individual want to bring booze along or whatever, and that that I don't tolerate. But then they want to drink out there and turn

into drinking party, and I just didn't really upset. So I just go down the other the capitalist listen to stuff. But but as these individuals were drinking all night and they went back to our rigs. We had ten vehicles out there, and we see we had four RV's, a couple of campers, but they were all in general area, this Charlie and everything. But there was a gentleman was sleeping in the back of his truck at the canopy

and they had come back in there. I think it was around one two o'clock in the morning, and I guess they decided it was an adult. I assumed he could have been a juvenile, but they decided to shake him awake. And the only reason I know this because we had let the record going all night in the camp. We could hear these things come in and they actually were shaking him. And that was his first experience, and

he still talks about it all. He talks about it every time I talked about it was his first experience with any kind of bigfoot activity. But even though he heard the vocalizations and everything that night. But that was the most shocking thing. But that shocked me is that there were so many people in camp. I surprised that these things come in there. So we learned from that experience.

It doesn't matter other people you have to they'll still come into camp in the middle night when they think everybody's a sleep.

up the brush and stuff. I took one individual there and he won't go back out in the widget anymore. Actually it's the second person out there. But I don't want to get people PTSD. That's what I'm trying to avoid. You know. I tried to tell people all the time that hey, you can experience this out there. It's not like what you think. It is easy to talk about when you're in a lighted room and everything, but when it's completely dark out there, it's a totally different scenario.

Out there, you don't have control of your environment. They do, so you just kind of just have to deal with it.

control people and everything. I actually we actually had to leave it twenty minutes after we got there, and I had driving him home and he was just having a nervous breakdown over it. But this guy was telling me how he was going to spear it in the chest. You know, they're talking all this crap, and I just got to laughing. He was kind of skeptical. Then I took him out there. You found that, you know, basically we're dealing with real creatures out there. He didn't want

no part of that. And I say, I haven't talked to him in vital since I took him home that night, and it was several years ago. He didn't even want to talk about the NCID. He doesn't want to do anything. He didn't want to you know. I try to actually say, well, let me get to go back out there again, you know, because he said he used to go out in the woods all tank it. He says, well, Steep, you can get you back through that again. He didn't want anything

to do with the woods, whis whoever anymore. So unfortunately, you know, then I feel responsible right for that individual, because, like I said, I just changed his whole life, or they've been he's just getting people like he says, you don't really realize the reality to what's going on out there. They just take it for granted nice as well, but you I really feel bad if I get somebody to that point. I don't want you know, he's got prior PTSD from the war, so so it just makes it worse.

you sure don't because that triss you know. I mean, I do a lot of stupid stuff of that called where I go and you know, go and chasing them might hear sounds and going there looking and running in there. I won't do that anymore. After looking, after seeing them now, I said, there's no way now I'm going to do that. I'm very undecautious side of doing that now because these things are so big, and I says, we're like little twigs to them. They just tear you apart if they

want to do that. But it's also because I when listening all the according to I know we're to move forward, right. I basically understand the behavior, but I don't trust them still. The more I deal with stuff, and I says, they're not humans that we're dealing with, and you know, they're not going to do any kind of interaction, and we're also invading them. We're still outside. People always think they're going to have this interaction or something like it, you know,

Jane Goodall or whatever. It's not going to happen. At least I don't think it's going to happen. But anybody, anybody tells me they have this little uh my heard stories. People sit there and tell me this where they're pitty pat, you know, out there with them in your sights or whatever, and they're you know, feeding them and they're having this mental thing or whatever going on. I don't believe that's happening. I don't think it's even possible for what I'm studying out there, m.

I don't get scared out there. I get nervous or cautious, but I don't have the fear that goes on with most people because I know more basic what I'm dealing with out there. I'm expecting it, but it catch me off guard sometimes. But for people I don't know what they're thinking.

of I kind of got that aggressive response. I don't like to say this is exactly what it was, but I'm always trying to figure out what caused that response to get them for sound attacks, Like I said, the first time, was because I jumped off the RB running towards creatures them that part time, I remember using that Sarah sounds calling into bussion and that's the response I got, so that might have been what it was, or might

it might it wasn't. I've only heard that samurai chatter out there once, uh, in the middle of the night. I either heard that samurai chatter type, but all the other stuff loops I've heard before too, so not taking just like the talking like that the talking recorded, It wasn't like that. It was more like a growling met In fact, you have that recording.

about that he was holding a chair and everything. But it was interesting because it caused that response was we had uh recorded my one of our pillow researchers that it just has a newborn. He actually had a baby crying, and we actually did that particular call out there and running that and that's the response we got. We thought we actually generated aggressive response. We thought was kind of weird.

in between us and the adult. I'm not sure, but like I said, we played that recording out there and that we instantly started getting calls out from the top of the hill and he come all the way down there, within probably thirty forty feet away from us, which is unusual for an adult to do that, and he was sitting there getting this is what he was doing by those sounds, as Bell Research were saying, it was heavy breathing, but it was definitely growling and making these noises like that.

That was a response we got and that's what caused. But like it's always finking we had played out there call bust people with baby cries.

do that has over a thousand different calls. Besides, I can at all my stuff on over two or three hundred different calls I want to, but I try not to call in do predator calls like rabbits or anything like that, because I'm always afraid it's going to bring predators and you know, coyotes or cougar or something unexpected. No, we usually try to be very careful in doing that. But I haven't had anything out of the ordinary where we get called buses. Most of the time, I said,

we get some weird vocals most of the time. That's all we're trying to generate or were trying to actually use it, because a lot of people think they call bussing systems to generate vocalisation, but it's not. It's actually just to get them within a certain area to come into an area for their curiosity. For we can get them into our recording range. So that's basically what it's used for. And it doesn't always work, like says they Sometimes they'll be quiet all the time, they won't respond

to it at all. That you have to change it up. Like I said, I've tried well calls out there to see how that works. I've done monkey. I'm trying to howler monkey certain monkey sounds that they'll respond to and get vocals to, or they react to. Sometimes music can cause them to do weird things out there here and start breaking branches. You turn it off like they want to hear it the real quiet, and then you turn it off and then they would start breaking brands and getting all upset.

they seem to enjoy that. Now. I haven't tried everything in the world because, like I said, I'm not trying to contaminate their behaviors because too much influence in us is this We're causing reactions that actually want them to do it on their natural appreciation, just to how they naturally work in the environment, calling one another, in communication between one and another, or rather not us interact with

them at all, were causing to do these things. I'm just trying to get responses just you know, their natural behaviors basically comes down to that's what I'm trying to learn off of.

something like. They kind of it's off and on. I can't always say everything's a response, but like I said, a lot of you get a lot of nothing out there too. They won't fund anything.

us into you. We said we're out there for tend hours, didn't even hear a stick break, and all of a sudden, like all hell broke loose when I went went to bed, you know, I mean out there knocking the storm and they're just running all through the brush and everything. It's just weird. And we were out there the whole time and never heard the thing going through the brush. It but it just quiet out there, and I thought, wow, I always sit there and say, maybe they're not around.

But the videos to the recording you tell you differently.

is not a fluent like a regular owl. You can actually hear the difference. Almost sounds like a guy at the angle all, you know. But there's also two big puts in nerds also a juvenal in that also, and I think it's in a late night visitor. I don't think you played that one, But that's mimicking. You can tell some of the mimicking on there where they get a little bit off as probably a younger adult doing it.

the calls were grunted, sounded like mocks. It was really impressive. But it actually had to go see what the creature was. I actually got out to a thrmb coming and seen it to see what was making those sounds, and it was a it was a cap alka was making that sound.

So we actually went down in there and went out in the field and seen it doing it and kind of find out was the calf elk doing that calls. I would if we hadn't have pursued to see what it was, it might have said that was a bigfoot because there were so many. It didn't do any calls as an elk then whatsoever. But there were so many different calls on there, I says, it just amazed me.

But as to them now in the midickaing things like we've heard some weird calls out there, I don't know, as we're saying that, I've never heard those vocals out there before. It amazed me that they can make deer wounding sounds. I never heard a wounded deer before. And it said for that, and I've heard that many people saying that with big fibulas, they've heard that. Son, It wasn't until I actually heard it that I said, oh, that's what it sounded. Wounded deer sounds like. It actually

sounds like that. And I've then had mineral matchup any of those recordings of mclor library anything like that on these wounded deer get anything close. It's it's really unique unique hearing these things.

where did this guy go? You know, you couldn't win anywhere because the roads are right there. He who had been able to see him, And it was within fifteen twenty seconds since she supposedly saw him, because she actually screamed to his scarter. So we ran down her and she said, there was a guy right there. He went that way and there was nobody there, so I don't tell you it wasn't bigfoot all. I've had some weird speople telling me stuff out there had some peronormal crap,

but it was nothing to do with Bigfoot. Oh, I don't think it did the crazy.

I've had some strings where I've had I don't really want to go in that because it gets out of control because the people say, oh, yeah, it's definitely bigfoot, but no lights, no orbs or anything like that. Entities. Yeah, maybe some weird ghost like stuff goes on out there, I would say, but it's not bigfoot.

You know, he had that been tell you before I met him. So, but he's actually a smart individual. I had no reason to think he's lying or went to make up stuff like that, So I think I I unless I really witnessed stuff for myself. I have a tendency to put it off until you know I have something to lay to hear that I can write about. Put we put down our logs, cause we have research logs about any kind of stuff that happens to have

their smells. Now, I've had a couples something pretty smelly out there, and I had some knocking go with it, So I wouldn't always say that was all big, but I says that was the worst smell I ever ran across. The smell like garby sewer and something rotten all together, and it was like it was so bad. It's just like you walked into it and you can walk out of it. Oh wow. It was just I thought I

had stepped into something. Start smelling my clothes and every saying, man, this stuff is going to stink on me because that that you know, uh picture didn't smell. It was just terrible. Nick your eyes water, my gons and twice we had that. Or you can actually walk into it and then come back to area and nothing there and the same thing. Uh, when we believe it's the females. Now this is speculation. Is real smell lilac out there? It just really heavy

smells of that. It really smell. It doesn't smell bad. Is this smells nice? But it's like a lilac smell. And there's no lilacs out there.

out there, smells like well powdering yourself with flowers. And I said, we don't know where that smell come from either. There's no plant that I an't put that smell off lot out there.

in the ariage. I can smell as old spice. After she had said the guy must have been putting on I said, I don't know how he's doing any kind of hunting, as we can walk in or smell as old spice. So definitely humans do put off smells. So the people of research together, you know, I wouldn't always say masks is you know, putting on any kind of scent maskers or anything like that. And if you're doing Bigfoot research, it's not gonna matter. Like I said, they

seem I smoked. They smell that all the time. I've heard so many different door. Oh if you smoke, they won't come in. Now that's not true. So I always just tell people to be normally. You can we hear your normal clothes. We wear a lot of camouflage, but we don't have to. They know you're there.

they may make our whistles a lot. We've heard that out there many times too. And we know there's no other humans out there, right because most of the time when also I can hear everything within miles if a car drives in or people camping over in a certain area, those parabolics will pick that up. We can hear any kind of traffic coming in and out, so we'll know

if there's humans out there in the area. Usually, if I have any kind of humans and everything, I just trashed the audio anyway, because if there's knocking going, it could be somebody over their chopping wood for their fire or whatever, or any kind of weird sounds. We assume it's coming from the camp. So you have hours to

take audio, you just trash. Oh wow, because like I said, we're trying not to pool ourselves regardless, and I don't want to sit there and listen at the night and then find out where's the guy and his wife are an argument down the road or whether her So if there's any kind of human contamination in our audios, eye trash them.

I'll miss stuff. I'll hear, like good examples. I heard all this pounding on the gate and everything, and I got all excited everything listen on there and kind of find out somebody had drove it in during this jet noise. I didn't hear them drive up to the gate and you were actually unlocking the gate and somebody was cutting your lock off a gate man, and that was going on for twenty five minutes.

on jet noise. But like I said, people, human people can come in there and they're jet noise and we're right there. Not I would say almost at the end of a patterns for Seattle is their takeoff from seven pm to about ten thirty it's it's like every twenty minutes that they're going off, you can hear the get

flying there and it just washese out. So we're listening more to stuff at night, you know, from ten thirty one, after dark and late more stuff when it gets really super quiet, and then you can hear a lot more stuff going that way. But I hear stuff there in the day sometimes I didn't realize, you know, movements when I set my farms out there. Sometimes when I walk to the side out I'll just dump equipment, I call it and I'll leave it over night and come back

pick up in the morning. But I've set stuff in there bitch black at night, probably midnight or whatever, and as I'm walking off, I'm hearing something walk up to my parabolic at the same time. No way, and we always tak Yeah, I've had that many times. I said,

there go Wow, didn't you know something was there? Or as we walk towards it, you know, to pick it up in the night or sometimes in early morning, you can hear creature just had stepped off the road into the bresh He was been there playing there for several hours. You didn't know. We don't know it when we walk up there and he's just a few feet away. Oh well, I said, it was dark out there, and I do this stuff by myself all the time, and that's a matter of fact. Had happened last year. It said that

they walked. I've probably got twenty twenty five feet. I said, my parabolic there and all of a sudden it got hit by a rock and there's pitch black out there, and I said, it nailed it, this dead center on my parabolic knocked it over and go back pick it up. But I heard that, Oh my goodness, Oh wow, wow. But they're very good. That's you said that. It shows the DA have night vision really well, because like I said, they pick up the targets really well, even at night with walks.

should say very seldom friendly. Could people like to call them little forest friends and stuff like that, and from my experience in their behavior, they're not like that at all. So they kind of want to be let alone, especially the adults. And if you ever get the chance to do see you and it's great, but like I said,

it maybe closer than you think. So othern I just want people to be safe when they're out there doing this stuff, like I says, when I'm doing this for like I said, we're doing it for our own answer if we don't try to sit there and try to say it exists, and shouldn't try to push my thoughts or my belief on somebody else either. So let people experience for themselves and they make their own decisions.

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