They All See It Out Here! | Oklahoma

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I'm going to I'm going to ask start with the question that, yeah, probably everyone starts with, is how did you get into this wild stuff, all this wild bigfoot and you're in a dog man too, and you're into it all.

I didn't know it at the time. It was till much later, and I accidentally ended up investigating a nineteen ninety six investigating a bigfoot sighting, and I didn't even know what I was doing, but I was just curious and nosy, and I ended up going out to the low location and nosing around on my own, and so I really so for a long time I was open

to the idea that they might be out there. But to fast forward to two thousand and seven, I ended up seeing what I guess people would say was a dog man, although at the time it just looked like a giant wolf to me, and I had no idea what I was looking at. I thought it was just some giant wolf that was some kind of mutant or something, and I figured that it wouldn't last very long because it was freaking nature and a rancher was going to shoot it pretty quick and that would be the end

of that. I didn't realize at the time that there was a breeding population of these things. I was fortunate that it didn't stand up on its hind legs and run or something. I probably would have lost my cookies if I'd have seen that. So when I say I was like eased into this cryptid world, I mean it. I honestly don't know how somebody could be more gradually brought into this genre than the way I have been, And I think that's part of the reason why I don't have a lot of the PTSD and a lot

of the fear that a lot of people have. But man, I definitely got a lot of respect for these creatures, and I usually do everything I can to do it as smart as I can.

I just wasn't getting it. You look at something, you're like, it's a really big dog, and then you just let just that's really big things about the size of a cow. Wow. Oh yeah, and this broad daylight. And like I said, I'm pretty fortunate it didn't get up and stand up or something. I don't know what I would I don't know what my I don't know what I would have done if that would have happened. Hard to say, but

in a way, I'm glad it didn't. But it was years, many years later, that I actually figured out that I'd seen something that unusual. I was listening to some Sashquatch chronicles type stuff, and I kept hearing the mentioning dog man, dog man, dog, and I'm like, what are they talking about? And I was actually picturing it something like a sintaur with a dog's body and a man's head or something,

if that's what they think they're seeing. And then I go ahead and I do a little search and little Google search of it, and that's what it hit me. That's what I saw back then, and it was pretty overwhelming. And that's when it that's when the fire really got lit. Is when I realized that I had not only had I seen one of these creatures, but I'd seen one fairly close. And that that's when the avalanche, I guess you could say, started with me. And from there on

out it was downhill. From there, I look into just about everything from flying cryptis, dog man, sasquatch. We get a lot of dog man reports, but we get a lot more bigfoot reports, and so therefore I would have to say that bigfoot is our bread and butter down here, but we've got a lot of dog man reports too.

I'm pretty sure that I have over sixty dog man reports documented here in Oklahoma in southern Kansas, but we've definitely got way over two hundred bigfoot reports now, so it's kind of I'd say that the dog man population is a lot less, but the bigfoot population is definitely healthy over here. What you was saying before about thinking that has to be up in the northwest, man, I think Oklahoma is greatly undervalued when it comes to bigfoot population.

I think there's a lot more of them down here than what people think. And I think the reason why we don't have I think it's a combination of two things. A we don't have the volume of people that they have in others, some of these densely populated states. But the other thing is Oklahoma and southern Kansas is like the heart of the Bible Belt. They're like, we're like really conservative, and that type of individual is very unlikely if they were to see something to come out and

actually tell the public. I think a lot of people. You hear people say over and over again on shows that maybe one out of every ten bigfoot sightings actually get reported. I'm pretty sure in my area it's more like one out of every twenty or thirty. So super conservative down here. A lot of people are pretty tight lip. They don't talk so.

And I think that's the lion's share of people, is that kind of want to know what's going on, but they don't want everybody to know that they're interested.

going to react when they see something like that. That's why I know that I'm very fortunate that I haven't been traumatized, psychologically damaged, just flat out and messed up, because I can't imagine what it would be like just be going for a little stroll in the park or something and coming around a corner and there's a dog man standing there upright eyeball and you licking his chops. I can't even imagine what that would be like. So I don't know the people that does happen to. Man,

my heart really goes out to you. I don't. How do you go to work after that?

And I was constantly I was the only kid down there, and I grew up there, spent summers there, spring breaks and all that stuff. I lived with my grandparents a lot, but not all the time. I went to school in town and I lived with my parents, but I spent a lot of time down there, and I would always get in trouble for leaving the grain reopen, leaving the grain reopen, and it got to where it was just like a normal thing. It was like I would go down there and I would, you know, to put the

lock on. It wasn't a pad lock, but it was like a little wooden lever lock and I would lock the door. I'd come back the next morning and it was open again. And that was a pretty constant thing. So something I believe was getting in there and getting cat food and dog food out, and I think we know who does that. I also had a situation where I had built a tree house in the woods, and at the time I got it finished, it got torn out of the tree. It was literally like ripped out

of the tree. All the lumber was down on the ground. It was broken into pieces. And I thought that my grandfather had done it because it was out there. It was just it was me, Grandpa and Grandma seldom left the house. Grandpa never really went to the woods unless he was in the pickup truck. But I thought it must have been Grandpa. He must have found out that I was taking some of his good wood for my treehouse,

but I wasn't supposed to do so. I spent about three days waiting on a whipping and it just never came, and everything just seemed normal. So finally I was like, Grandpa, why why did you tear down my treehouse out in the or my tree ford out in the woods. And he's like, I didn't do that, and I was like, and I was, I don't know. I can't believe it had to have been him. So I cressured him a little bit about it, and he was like, Brian, I

don't even know where your treehouse is, you know. And so looking back on it now, I think I know that was probably seen as some kind of encroachment on the territory or something like that. It might have had something to do with me urinating so much around that area, because I would just pee off the edge of the tree house like boys do. And I guess that might

have been what happened there. But it's not like there was other people out there that could have seen that and done that, let alone ripped it out of it tree. There was another incident too, where I saw some glowing red eyes down in the crow one night when I was going back down to shut off the lights in the barn, and I went up and I told my grandpa about it, and he tried to convince me that

it was a cow. Of course, what would you expect to be down in there, But it wasn't a cow, because it was two eyes looking straight at me, and it seems like to me. I remember they were a white yellow color, and I just had the feeling i'd gone down there. I'd walk down there one hundred times to turn off the lights, and there's off and on. There would always be maybe a couple of cows down

there in the corral or something. Nothing ever bothered me, but that one night I felt it before I saw the eyes, and looking back on it now I know what that was. But at the time I had no idea. So there was a lot of knickknack things that was going on down the farm, but it was the small things that you could dismiss easily. And I'm pretty confident that my grandfather had no idea anything like that was going on, because I don't think he would let me

go down there and play alone. It's times have changed. Back then. I had one hundred and sixty acres at my disposal and it was all woods at the spring fed creek flowing through it. It was heaven still is. But the truth is, if he'd have thought that there was anything dangerous out there. He wouldn't let me go.

situation in certain parts of Oklahoma? Or do they tend to stay away from each other? From what you found, big for society will be right back after these messages.

area is Sasquatch territory. Okay. I don't give much credence to the whole dog man bigfoot WWF fighted out theory. I think we'd hear that going on, but yeah, I don't know everybody wants to see it. It's definitely make a good pay for view.

as well. There's been several reports over by Tallaheena, up by north of Bartlesville, there's been a couple of reports. They're really everywhere, but every once in a while you get several and one immediate location. But they're not as predictable as far as where they're going to be as a bigfoot, because I don't personally believe that a dog man has to stay as close to water as a bigfoot does. Almost all the bigfoot side that you're going to hear about, at least coming from our area, is

going to be within a mile of water. They really don't get that far away from water. I guess they're I guess they're thirsty. I don't know, but they don't hear about that. But that's not the way with dog men. Dog Men be out in the middle of nowhere where there's really no water or anything, and so there's no rhyme or reason to them. Makes them a lot harder to predict. Of course, my personal opinion is what we know about dog man is like thirty years behind what

we know about sasquatch. We've been studying sasquatch pretty much since the Patterson gimblin age and the trying to think of what it's called. The when they first started discovering the Jerry Crwe area pre nineteen sixty.

were actually dog man reports, possibly even vice versa. It's hard to say on that, and that's just speculation on my part. But if they're doing the same things and they're in the same areas unless you get I'd say a lot of the class bees are miss could possibly be wrong. It's tough to say. One thing. I'll say though, about dog men it seems like they're much more cautious about leaving footprints than Bigfoot. I do believe that bigfoot is very cautious about leaving footprints, but I think that

dogmen is even more. That may be because their population is less, but it could also be that maybe they're just a little bit more aware of their footprints. It's hard to say, but it's a really rare thing to run across a dog man print, a quality one. I run into what I consider sasquatch prints on a semi regular basis, but I'm learning where to look.

We drove out there and we did an interview with my buddy Jeff Hatfield, and I had Jeff go stand in the tree line where the bigfoot was and I had Chuck tell his story about what happened to him that night. I did a video line. It's pretty cool. But anyway, as we're buttoning up and fixing to leave, the pumper comes pulling in. And the guy that is pulling in is the guy that now has the job that Chuck used to have. Chuck used to be the pumper for that well, but this new guy, he's the

one that's doing it now. We never met this guy ever, and he comes pulling in and I thought he was probably going to get mad and tell us to get off location or something, but he didn't. He was being real friendly, so I just point blank asking. I was like, hey, has anything weird ever happened to you out here or anywhere else? And he got this funny look on his face and he goes, I did have something really weird happen out here last February. And I was like, really,

what was that? And he basically described something similar to what Chuck experienced. And the weird thing is, without having any knowledge of this, he pointed to the spot where Chuck had seen had his encounter and he said something was over there throwing rocks at me at night. And I was just like, whoa, it's so crazy. And he let us record him telling his story, and so I incorporated that into the video. But it was so awesome.

I've never gone out to do an interview with an eyewitness and then had somebody else come up and say randomly, yeah, I pretty much had something very similar happened in this exact same spot too. That was just my brain was about to explode on that one. But I would say that was probably one of the coolest ones I've done, but I've done several of them. Not all of them people would allow me to put on camera, But I do love going out and talking to eyewitnesses, especially on

location where it actually happened. It's a lot of it's a lot of fun, and sometimes people need to tell their story.

into camp or something like that. That was probably the first time that we really didn't have anything actually come into camp or do something. That was heartbreaker because that place has a lot of hyat built up for we call it Xana Do. But now, yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on over there. There's a lot of

reports that come out of southeastern Oklahoma. A lot of people don't realize this, but the population of Lafleur, mccurt and Pushmataha counties are pretty high, and so not only do you have a larger population of the Sasquatch people down there, you've also got more human people there to interact with them. So by nature, you're going to get more reports because there's more people there. So it makes good sense. But I do believe there's a lot of activity and it's all over. If it's close to a

water source, they're pretty much there. Just some people are very unobservant and some people are observant. And I think that the people who are unobservant are usually the lucky ones because it's a lot easy. It's a lot easier to remain in the dark when it comes to this kind of stuff.

of tranquility and mystery and stuff like that. And being from northwest Oklahoma, you get down in that area where you've got all these really tall lob lolly pines and everything is different, and you've got all that nice clear blue flowing water and all these great swimming holes and everything. It is a really beautiful area and it just it is. It's just it's a wonderful place to go. And I think that was where he was going for Zana Do.

We just call it that because we don't want to advertise where the location is that we're actually doing our research. We found that there are some mischievous people out here in this area that if they find out where you're actually doing research, they'll go out and they'll put out fake footprints for you to find so you'll look like a fool. Stupid stuff like that, and I don't have time for that. So we just keep our we keep

our little secrets, I guess you could say. And I don't like being misleading or disingenuous, but if we're going to have if we're going to maintain a certain purity level for our areas that we're doing actual research in, we need to keep it a little bit nush, because

all we need if a whole bunch. If a bunch of people know that you're down in a certain area and you're doing research, it's just a matter of time before they're sitting around drinking beer and they're getting a little tipsy and they're like, Hey, I got a great idea, and then here they come. So I'm trying to avoid that.

breeches variety, because that would they deserve that. But no, there's just I don't know, you know, is people are just people and they come in off flavors and you can't hate a just but but you can limit how much information you give out.

and week sprang into action. I started trying to video and didn't get anything on video because it was already gone. But there was a good fifteen twenty seconds and Jeff couldn't even get out what he was just pointing. He was the shock of seeing it, but he didn't get a good look at it, and it was like one hundred and fifty yards away. But he said it was just too big to just be like a little black bear, because down here we have bears. They're a little bitty.

I know, you could almost swat one. Most of them run from you. But they said it was much bigger. We've had him come into camp on a couple of

occasions and get per pretty close. My first night out there at that location, they I was sleeping in a hammock with a tarp over it, and I'm pretty sure we had two juveniles come into camp and they were snooping around and one of them started creeping up on me in my tent, in my hammock with the tarp over it, and I was awake, and it scared the living crap out of me, and it was very humbling. But that was the fastest I ever came out of

my hammock. I set the fat Boy Land speed record for ejecting out of a hammock, because you can't get out of a hammock gracefully. In case you didn't know, let alone when you're as big as I am. So that was a crazy night. I would love to relive that night again. I wish i'd had a recorder, you know how that.

started going down there, and that was just weird. I'm not even sure I can even do it justice day try to explain what it sounded like, but the term mechanical bird is about as close as you're going to get. I imagine like a robot bird or something that just wasn't even sounding right, but sounded mechanical. That's what it sounded like. I've heard a lot of weird vocalizations. Those the two juveniles that came in that one night on me.

They were making the mouth popping noises where they I'm assuming they're doing that thing with their mouth, but it was really loud they were doing that. I would say every five or ten minutes, they would make that mouth popping noise and it was really loud, and I think that's what actually woke me up, was the mouth popping noise. And about the time, about forty five minutes before the sun came up, and these two juveniles were tinkering around

the camp getting into stuff. I'm assuming the parent from up the hill was calling them, and it made this really loud, deep, you know, booh vocalization, and at that point both of them left and started walking towards that vocalization. And so I always assume that that was mom or dad or something, but it's hard to tell. But whatever it was definitely had authority and it had a very deep voice, and they responded instantaneously. It was at that point I think that I figured out that I was

probably dealing them with juveniles. So that was pretty That was a fun night, But yeah, you'll hear a lot of things. Never heard any kind of Ohio howls or whatever out there. I don't think there is vocal in Oklahoma as what they are in other places. They will do howls and stuff like that, but it's not common to catch one on audio recorder. But one of these days, I'm going to get a good one one of these days. But yeah, there's a lot of vocalizations and sounds that

go along with them. Like last weekend when we were down there over spring break, we had something just outside of Camp grunt at us twice and we ended up getting out of or out from underneath the tar because it was raining and we had We went out and was looking around trying to figure out what it was. But whatever it was, it vanished or whatever went to ground or something. But we never did figure out what it was. But it spoke to me pretty again because it was pretty loud, pretty deep.

I guess that's a massive area. Have you ever gotten any weird stuff from the Lake Texoma area of Oklahoma and Texas?

than just cryptid stuff. I know it's a hot spot for paranormal investigators too, the ghost hunters and stuff like that. I am not a ghost hunter, but because my personal belief and I just don't have time, so I don't even now. A man can only have so much free time, and this bigfoot, encryptid thing, there's days I feel like I've been off more than I can chew. And the last thing I'm going to do is decide that I'm going to take on and start chasing aliens and ghosts.

I just know, I just don't have time. I'm not dismissing or anything or throwing rocks at that genre. I'm just saying I just don't have time to deal with it. But I am aware of the fact that they do go out there on a regular basis, and they do have a lot of encounters. And sometimes these ghost hunters go out there and have encounters with cryptids, and I think a lot of ghosts that are reported are actually cryptids, but I really don't have any data to back that up.

It's just a high apothesis, especially when you're talking about white creatures, because I think a lot of cryptids. There's more white cryptids out there than people realize. Yeah, the brown spring variant is pretty crazy. I've only been out there twice, but my team has actually been discussing going back down there again and doing a better, more thorough investigation than what we've done in the past.

was like skinny and it didn't make sense. Yeah, so dude, there's something going on in that area, no question. So I don't know.

Not in front of him, but it was in his backyard. Him and his wife both saw it and they basically they it was like one o'clock in the morning. It was like a Saturday night and they'd been up and they had some friends over and they could hear like the cops were chasing somebody down the street or something.

So they go out front, and whatever it was, it gone around the corner and gone back behind the house, because they lived on a corner lot, And so they went in their backyard and walked out on the back porch to see if they could see anything that direction.

And when they did, they saw something that just looked like this pale, white, hairless, horrifying looking creature with black eyes, and it ran behind their storage shed in their backyard, and I got they were Him and his wife were both pretty freaked out, and they said that they just sat there for a minute, and they started easing back towards the house, towards the door, and whatever it was ape shifted or something, and it came out from the other side of the story shed, and it was a

homeless dude that was just dressed all in rowdy clothes. And I guess the homeless dude just looked at him and smiled and walked over there and opened their gate and went out in the front yard and disappeared. And they were just sudden, Yeah, no, I'll take big foot any day. No. Yeah, And there's yet there was another lady that this was in now that was about two years ago. About four months ago, I had a lady reach out to me, and she had an encounter on

what is called the Northwest Expressway in Oklahoma City. And if you keep going out past what people around here would know is Piedmont Road, and you take that road and you just keep going like you're going to Okarchie. Right there where Hi eighty one ties in, she ran into one there at that corner, and she said, at first it looked like a naked white guy, no shoes, no nothing, bug naked, and he was running at an incredibly high rate of speed and like he was keeping

up with her car. And then he started shape shifting into something else that had a longer muzzle. I guess she could say, and claws, And of course I guess she decided to get out of there. The most interesting part of her story is, in my opinion, is not the actual encounter. Apparently she was hesitant to call me.

As a matter of fact, she reached out to me using an alien She actually went to the point of creating an alias so that she could reach out to me because she is a business owner there in Oklahoma City and she didn't want it to affect her business. So to make a long story short and to condense it down, she felt obligated to turn this into the police,

even though she didn't want to. So she calls the police department, and the police department that she reached out to was the Canadian County Sheriff's department, and she called got the dispatcher. Dispatcher answers the phone. She starts in telling her like, I know you guys are going to believe this, but this is what I saw. And the dispatcher, she said, I could tell. She put her hand over the phone and she said to one somebody else that was over there, she said, hey, we've got another one

over here. And I can't imagine. And that must have been insane to hear a police dispatcher say something like that there's two of them or there's more of them. So I don't know. I believe that the police department probably does have a legitimate reason for keeping some of this stuffish.

they're done talking about it. The bigfit can unity and the general public acted and treated them, probably poorly, and they don't want to They don't even want to talk about it anymore. And you're not going to get them to talk about it. But depending on which one of the four stories you get and it comes out of

that area. The one thing that is universally constant and that everybody agrees on is the fact that they were being basically, I wouldn't say attacked, but these Sasquatch people were trying to get into their house and one of the brothers shot one and killed one. Nobody even denies it. There's nobody on the team. There was no bigfoot attack at Hanabby. There's nobody even saying that. It's just the Everybody in that area is in agreement that all that

stuff happened. And it's amazing to me because usually you've got this whole section of people over here that are like, oh, they're full of crap, or they're a bunch of alcoholics or whatever. You know what I'm saying. There's nobody in that area denies that it happened. Everybody knows that it happened. This is crazy, and some people were mad at because they shot them, and some people thought it was justified. But nobody in that area denies that it happened. Everybody knows it happened.

and there'll be a few vendors there. But it's it's less of a lot of these bigfoot things are like a festival, right, there's a little bit less of a festival, more of having actual guest speakers, and it's more about the research and stuff like that than it really is about the about the i don't know what you call it, the funnel cakes and the widgets. So not that I'm putting all that stuff down, because you know, I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff too, but right, you know what I mean?

We've got those all over the state of Oklahoma. You do not need a hunting license, you do not need a fishing license. You can just go out there and walk around and do this stuff. And I know of two places in Oklahoma that you have to have a special permit just to go to the place, or maybe you have to have a fishing license or something. But it's one is mcgree Creek and the other one is Three Rivers, WMA, which is real close to han Alby.

But yeah, those few places have a special some kind of special designation within the Wildlife Department for that kind of stuff. That's one of those places that McGee Creek is a place that I haven't been to yet, but I just it's one of those things. I've got all these other places that I've been going to on a regular basis that are producing evidence and I just haven't I don't know, I haven't. Sometimes you've got to condense.

And if you just go to all these different spots and just bounce around, you'll get less actual evidence and you won't get to know the areas as well as if you pick three locations that you know hasen cryptid activity and if you just pound the ground with those and just keep going on a regular basis. And when you do that, it helps keep and even maybe the Sasquatch, you get to know you better and maybe even begin

to feel more comfortable with its possibility. McGee Creek is on one of my lists of places that I would like to go, but we've got possibly better places that are closer and McGee Creek is They are there, but I wouldn't put McGee Creek in the I don't know, maybe in the top ten, but it would definitely be on the lower end locations. But it is weird that it has that special designation.

all bigfoot and dog man encounters are basically benevolent. If they roar at you, they just want you to leave. I can't think of any that I think would have

scared me to my core. Probably one of the scariest ones that I think probably would have come real close to shaking me to my core would be like Caitanya cordex encounter where she's hiking down a trail and she turns around and looks you hear something behind her, turns around and looks and there's a giant male bigfoot standing there staring at her like in close proximity, and that

scared the bejeebers out of her. And I think that would probably be like the scariest thing ever to just be a not a knower, just you don't even have a clue and then you turn around and there it is. I think that's the shock of it all and having your world cave in around you. That would be probably, in my opinion, the most traumatic thing that you could probably run into. People don't get bit by these things or punched or clawed or anything like that. You could

argue that well to survive. The people that do don't live to tell that. Where's the evidence for that. We've got all these reports of people that bluff charged me or roared at me, But hey, yeah, you still made it to the car. So I don't really necessarily think that there is dangerous. They're capable of great violence, but I think they show some kind of restraint. I think something either common sense or some kind of spiritual barrier is keeping them from tearing us from limb to limb.

Maybe it's just maybe it's just good manners. I don't know what it is. It's hard to make a judgment call on that. Yeah, I think having just bumping into one would just be the scariest thing that you could possibly happen to you.

from their easy chair man. You're going to have if you're ever going to see anything, if you're ever going to do anything, you got to get out in the woods and you're going to have to get a take or two. And that's really what it boils down to. I have. I would say in the last five years, I've actually seen with my eyes two to Sasquatch. One wasn't a good view at all, but I could tell that's what I was looking at because it was so big, and I actually got that on film. But it's a joke.

Nobody even wants to look at it. It's in one of my YouTube videos, but it's just I knew what it was, but my film footage ain't gonna it's not going to convince anybody. The other one, I saw a tree peaker leaning out looking at me from behind a tree. I had my cell phone in my hand, and I was so dumbstruck that I didn't even think to use it. So I've seen them twice in the last five years.

And I would say that I go camping all weekend long at least twice a month, twice a month, so I'm in Yeah, I'm in the woods anyway, and that's not counting day trips. So I would be willing to bet you that I'm in the woods seven eight days a month, easy. And that's you know, like spring break, we were out there for five days straight over Christmas Break. I'm a school teacher my work hours. I'll spend a week in the woods over Christmas break. If I spend

any more than that, my wife will kill me. During the summertime, I spend a lot of time in the woods as long as it's not ridiculously hot. You need the drill. But I'm out there probably more than just about anybody you've ever met. I spend a lot of time, and I've spent a ton of time in the woods my whole life. I was a Scout leader for years

and years and that's what I've always done. And before I started doing this bigfoot thing, I was a hunter and I spend a lot of time in the woods, hunting deer and hunting coyotes and just hunting whatever whatever got me out in the woods. I've always loved to spend time in the woods. And if you want one thing that is going to help aid you, it's you're going to have to spend at least a week a month in the woods, and that's a good start.

things will usually happen. At that point, they're probably wondering when you're going to leave, and I don't know why that is, but there is possibly something to that. Most of the time, though, I would say ninety percent of the time, the first night is usually uneventful.

kind of conical head, but it's hard to tell. But it's leaning out, it's looking and at first I was just like, oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. I just took my breath away and I was like wow. And I'm sitting here thinking all this stuff, and I'm like, that's really it. That's really it. I'm seeing one. It's right there, it's right there. And then the thought crossed my mind. It's like, man, I really I want Coleman to see this. I want Coleman to see this. So I was like, Coleman, come, I need you to come

over here real quick. And Coleman comes over there and he's like, what's up. And I'm like, I need you to pretend like you're talking to me. But what you're going to do is you're going to look over my left shoulder and you're going to look just past my ear, but you're going to pretend like you're looking at me. And we're going to keep talking, like we're just chatting it up. He's like, Okay, I said, do you see

those two big trees over there? And he goes yeah, And I go, do you see the head leaning out? And he's like, no, I don't. Oh yeah, I see it. And you can just see his eyes open up a little bit and he's sitting here and he's looking at it too, and neither one of us are even thinking about our cell phones or anything. It's just like, wow, there it is. There's one really right there. And so we watched it for a few minutes, but I don't know, I just couldn't resist and I ended up turning around

trying to look again, and that's when it disappeared. And I actually saw it pull back behind the tree once, and so I saw it move and that's what just I was just like, oh my gosh. Anyway, it was so cool. It was just so cool getting to see it. But we ended up going back out there the next day, and so we went and we stood where we were and then my buddy Jeff goes over there and stands where this thing was behind this tree. And this is the part that freaked me out. We took a laser rangefinder,

and we ranged it out. It one hundred and twenty yards, so it was like the length of a football field, and I still to this day, I don't think it was that far. But this thing was so tall. I could barely see Jeff over there. And when Jeff lifted his hand all way up in the air, it was barely up there where we could see it, which means this thing and Jeff is six foot tall, and this thing literally had to have been ten foot tall. It

was a beast. It was massive. It was huge, and I think that's part of the reason why in my head I thought it was a lot closer than what it was. It was further away. It was just really big, and I think that's the fact that there was a little bit more distance to it than what I thought. I think that's why I couldn't get a whole lot of detail, you know what I mean. But still I just I don't know. It was I feel very fortunate to have actually gotten to see that, and that was

really exciting. That actually happened at Hayburn Lake and there south west of Tulsa, Oklahoma, and that was probably about a year ago, And man, that was a thrill, say the least you live for stuff like that, So.

a conversation, gave me his business card. He said that he knew that they existed, he'd seen him before, and he was just real open and friendly about it. But I know that that's probably unusual for that now for one of those guys to just talk to a stranger and tell them. But he was pretty confident. He said, I know for a fact that there's not any of

these creatures at this state park. And the funny thing is, I've actually gotten reports from the state park that he was working at, and he was apparently not aware of them,

but I didn't want to contradise him. And the other one was a fellow that I was introduced to who is a park ranger, and I was introduced to him via third party and he's a knower too, and I'm not going to tell his story or how he knows because there are a few people that know who he is and I think it's brought him some grief, so just to be professional and not bring them out. But yeah, I've met two of them who are knowers, but they're not really super talkative about it, and they definitely don't

want to go public about it. But as far as like any law enforcement officers know. But on the flip side, the former head of the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigations, I believe his name is mister Pratt. He I can't remember his first name now. Many one time, he's a knower, and he was a very high ranking official within the state of Oklahoma. He was the head of the OSBI. That's basically I don't know n CIS or whatever the TV show is going right now. He was the head

for the whole state. And he's a knower, very Henry Print I think it's his name. Super smart dude. There are people within the state that hold those positions that they're knowers, but they don't talk about it as much. It usually just brings you nothing but grief when you come out of the closet, you know what I'm saying.

Oklahoma's tight lipped anyway, And it's just the stigma. It's the stigma that surrounds it. These people, these law enforcement individuals, their judgment is everything for them because if they're crazy or deemed incompetent, I mean that their testimony is worthless, and their testimony is true probably their most important thing. So they have to maintain that higher level of integrity, and they probably guard it much more protected than most people, your average Joe would.

is weird there. So I'm curious, like what your take on it is. Is it just a tourist area or is there weird stuff that I actually happens there.

running around and it's quite the vacation. It's very pretty, it really is. And there's been a flood of people moving to the area. But you're right, there's a lot of encounters down there. I know that there was a I don't know exactly what it is. I'm seeking more information on this case file, but I just received a story and it might have been from one of your yours.

As a matter of fact, it was. It came to me, but it was about that service technician at the restaurant over there that had a bigfoot staring at him while he was working on the roof or something. Was that you or was that another.

If there's a water source there there. I'd be hesitant to even try to guess how many of the Sasquatch people are actually living down in there. I think it's a lot more than more people realize. Man, you get down there in that Washington National Forest, it is huge. It's absolutely huge. The camp spot that we were camping at was thirteen miles back in from the closest blacktop road into the National Forest. Wow that we joke around,

but we're serious. We always say whatever you don't get hurt out here, you'll believe out before we get to the Blacktop. It's no joke, but it's very serious. We're out there in the middle of nowhere. There is there's very few hospitals. There's just no civilization. There's vast areas where there's just no people living.

I like, I've never been down that road. I've never been down that road. I don't know what's down there. I've been going down there forever, not forever, but a long time, and there's just so much of it that I've never even seen, and it's just right there. I just a it's absolutely unfathomed. How big the Washington National Forest is. Now, Let's talk about the Jack Fork Mountains. Let's talk about the Winding Stair area. Let's talk about the Three Rivers area, Let's talk about the Hanamby Wildlife

Management Area. Is just it never ends down there. The Ozark National Forest, let's go north a little bit. There is city people do not have a clue how much real estate is down there and how unaccessible it is. We cannot get into some of these places. Literally. Wow,

for a city person, just imagine this. You put Oklahoma City, the entire all the burbs, you put it all together, and take Tulsa and Broken Air though it all together in the Washtaw National Forest is at least ten or fifteen times bigger than that.

It's if you broke down and you're going to die, It would take you a day to walk out of some of these places unless somebody just happened to pick you up. Yeah, And I don't think people really realize how remote some of these places can really be. And other than a rental cabin here or there, that an Airbnb rental cabin, there's no civilization out there. It's beautiful, it really is. And I think that's why they're out there.

These forests are massive, and I think there's whole communities of these creatures living out there, and they're just doing what they want to do. And contrary to popular belief, I don't think they need our help. Nature don't need our government's help.

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