I'm just the Deliveryman.

kind of heavier set guy. I was like about two hundred and fifty pounds since high school, and a couple of years before my incident, I'd been a really bad car wreck and I ended up being in intensive care for a long time and bedridden for a couple months, and like, you know, whole year of therapy just be

able to walk good again and all that. And during that period, I'd put on about another one hundred pounds, so I was really large, up like three hundred and fifty pounds, and my health became a big concern for me. And I'd always been kind of into like bushcraft and survivalism, and you know, since I was a kid watching terminator and you know things like that, and like, you know a lot of things like that. And then but I

really into the wilderness and outdoors. So I decided, for the better my health, I was going to start doing some you know, short hikes and maybe getting out and practicing a little bushcraft. So I started to do that in southern California and this area between Orange County and Riverside County, there was a road that kind of divided to two counties on this mountaintop, but on the below that in the valley, there was a couple of creeks

with small waterfalls and things like that. There was a basically a blm road that went up into the area. So I started going there as far as I could drive, and then i'd park my truck and I was doing these short hikes about three quarters of a mile in and I'd hang out the creek and you know, mess around the bushcraft and practicing doing like bow drill and hand drill, starting fires and different things like that, do

some wood carving. And I was doing that for a while, and then eventually there was too many accidents on that mountain of people, mostly like high school kids partying up in the hills and driving off the edge of the sides of the mountains and lay it to a couple of fatalities. So they'd closed the road down where I

used to drive in to get to that area. So then it became a thing of you know, limitation on the if I was going to hike in there, it became about about five and a half to maybe six and a half mile hike to get to that area where I was hanging out. So I decided to start, you know, hiking in and in a hammock so I could just stay overnight or hike in, hang out for the day, you know, have a little fun stay of the night, and then hike out the next day, so I wouldn't have to, you know, try to do a

ten twelve mile hike in one day. So I started doing that for a while, started building a pretty decent kind of permanent structure. But there was a small series of mines and caves and stuff over there where they used to look for I think they're looking for copper and silver and different minerals and stuff, but they basically all ran dry and had got closed down. So the Forager service had one in and put concrete and rebar

up on all the interests to close them off. But I found one of those was a fairly good sized opening, and I noticed that there was constantly a draft that pulled into the cave. So I was like, you know, it's going to be an awesome location to build a little permanent structure. So that's what I did, and had a little fire pit to the back I built, and really nice. I could have a small fire in there, and the smoke always drafted into the tunnel and come

up out the hill somewhere. Uh. So I fortified the entrance real good. It was built it real nice and behind a big brushline. It was really hard to find the spot, and I always try to take different routes going to my little you know, hideaway. But at the time of doing that, I had this little Chihuaha mixed dog that I had gotten was a rescue my former employer. His wife was real big on resking every animal. You know,

she'd find strays, bring him back and all this. But this little dog end up being a crazy dog and a little tiny Chiuala just scared everybody. And they told me if I could take him for a couple of days, they could, you know, find an owner. Somebody'd be willing to take him and the dog end it just like just falled me around everywhere and bade me and everything. So I decided to keep that dog and solve the whole problem. And then uh, I had having somebody to

do my little hikes with me and stuff. But the dog really didn't like anybody or listening to anybody. Anybody got within ten fifteen feet of me or anybody at my house, he'd start growling and barking and you know,

just paul shuahwah yapp and thing. But I started to notice when we were hiking in when we got to a certain point where there was this ridge, my dog would always get distracted and he'd put his ears up, like if i'd call, whistle for the dog, whatever, just get over here, you know, he put his ears up. He'd look around and he'd run right at me. And he never did that for anybody else like ever, not even the people who live with me. He just wouldn't

respond to anybody. But I started noticing we get to this point, he'd put his ears up like if I was calling him, and he'd just go running off in the bush, go trying to get up to that ridge up there, and I started bothering me, like, what is this dog hearing that's like attracting him so much that he's just completely disobeying my commands, you know, running off.

So you know, I started, you know, kind of watched him more, and it got to the point where he was just like he'd take off and he'd be gone for like an hour. I just continue hiking towards my little bushcraft shelter I built, and I just got really

annoised this. I started putting him on a leash when we go past the section, and I started to realize that, like every time we go to that section, besides the dog acting you know, completely out of the ordinary, just completely you know, different from his normal day to day, I started noticing I always had the sensation of, you know, being watched, you know, And then I started thinking, oh, well,

maybe somebody else has a camp there. Maybe it's you know, there there was some transient and homeless people in the area that used to camp out there, but they're more down the valley towards all where the massive amount of citrus, orange groves and grapefruit were and things like that, so I wasn't really thinking it was that and then I thought,

you know, it's just a weird feeling. And one day particular, we were walking in the ridges above me to my left side, and it was probably about sixty seventy yards up the side of this hill was a real steep cliff. As I was walking, it was real quiet day, like hardly no wind, nothing, and everything got real quiet, and I started actually hearing like leaves rustling and things like that. And then at one point I saw a couple of

little small rocks like rolled down the hill. So it caused me to look up to my left, and I realized that my dog was already staring up at that direction the whole time we were walking. So I started really paying attention to that ridge to the left of me. So I'm just like walking ahead and just kind of focusing to my left the whole time, and I'm really getting that eerie feeling of just being watched. So I just come to a complete stop. I started glancing the ridge,

and then that's that's when I saw them, right. And you know, I've heard a lot of things about you know, Bigfoot being this big giant, you know, gorilla ape and type things like that. What I saw was nothing looking like a bigfoot, you know. Uh. And the way, the best way I can explain it is like I grew up in the early eighties watching wrestling and I'll call again and all that, and I kind of pictured it. Uh It'd be like Andrea the Giant that they had

from wrestling back in the day. But it looked like Andre the Giant with like totally straight hair, not curly hair. The hair was had like a light red tint to it, but with a lot of gray hair, like an old man. But it looked like a caveman, you know, like not with like you see with like the loincloth, you know, patch of animer for over him carrying a club. It just looked kind of like a Neanderthal, but just like

really huge, like Andrea the Giant. So I stopped. I'm like staring at it, and I'm like, so the fuddo, I'm so confused on what I'm seeing. I just start to slowly just keep walking forward, and I'm staring up at the hill and what I'm seeing starts to walk forward too, and it's and it's staring right back at me,

and my dog is full eye contact. I'm walking almost like twenty thirty yards staring up the hill as the thing I'm watching goes to where there's like a clearing of trees and it's not such a wide open part of the ridge. The thing I'm watching is watching me so intently, just like I'm watching him. The thing I'm watching walks right into a tree branch that was right at its head level. They just smacked it in the head and so I was like, what I saw the

whole tree shape real bad. And the thing let out this roar, like a yelp, like a like I try to explain my one, buddy. It's like, you know, like you're walking down the hallway, you know, the middle of the night, you get up to take a leak, and you're walking down the hallway and you just stub your toe, you know, just like unexpected pain out of nowhere, and you're like, oh, you know, you know, he's let out a sound, you know, And it was kind of like that,

and then it looks stunned. And then and it looked away from me, looked at the tree branch. It put its left arm up to where his left arm was like level with its eyesight, almost grabbed the branch and it just bent it all the way back, snapped it off and kind of squirted it away a little quicker, and it just disappeared and then no more sound, no

more nothing. And I was so confused. I was I kept trying to just play back in my mind of what I just saw, and I really started thinking about it, and like the way the body was, I just kept thinking, like, you know, like this is like a really old, like really obese man. You know, like I'm a big guy walking out there. I'm struggling to make this hike all the time, you know, and I'm seeing this other creature that looks way very very old and very very heavy

set too, but with a lot of muscle. And what I remember when I was looking at it, I used to work at a animal shelter probably three or four years prior to that, and we had a dog that came in that we had to quarantine and kind of putting its own separate kennel out in the field in a different area and all that. And I'm like, well, why's that dog out there? And they say, well, that dog has made it's it's real highly contagious. You know. The other animals can get it real quick. We gotta

keep them separate. You know, if we go in there to feed them, we have to bleach the things down. I have to wear rubber boots and gloves and everything's got to get bleached to sanitize. But I remember about the dog having kind of like big patches of fur missing that looked all like scratched up and kind of scabby.

And that was the same thing that I saw on you know, what I referred to was under the giant and I had I just remember having big patches of where it had been like scratching at itself to where like the fur was gone, and it was just like raw, kind of scabby, you know, nastiness underneath it, and it just looked like in such poor health. Like it was like, you know, I'm out there struggling, and you know, and I see this other thing and I and then I

was thinking, is this thing always following me? Because you know, he's feeling sorry for me trying to getting up this ridge, up this hill all the time. You know, they're like a sympathetic thing, you know, like when I walk through, he walks through just to you know, see if I can make it, or is he you know somehow kind of like sublimly like encouraged me to keep going every time that I'm you know, struggling trying to get through,

and basically, you know, he went over the ridge. I lost sight of him, and then, uh, I spended like the next three or four hours almost like trying to figure out how to get up to that spot where i'd saw the thing, you know, and it was very difficult. It was a high steat ridge, so I had a micing it, hiking ahead about a quarter mile trying to find a way up. Couldn't find nothing where I could because it was so vertical steep, I couldn't get up there.

So then I had hiking back about a quarter mile backwards, and I found a little small kind of game trail, but was still pretty steep. But I was able to get up the hillside by just like pulling on the roots of different trees and little shrubs, and I got myself up there. And I got to the spot where he had smacked his head on that branch and just

reached up and just broke that whole branch. And the first thing I noticed that that branch was like four or five inches stick, you know, it was a very bottom branch of the tree of a big, big tree. So it was a nice thick branch, and I was thinking, how did it snap that? And then I went closer, got up there, and I was trying to grab it to see, you know, just i'll stiff or whatever the branch was. That's when I realized that the branch was

so high up. You know, I'm only five ten, and I put my arm up as high as I could put it up so that I don't know if that's another foot and a half up or so, and I couldn't even touch the branch. I had to pull out my little hiking stick, the telescoping one I had, and with it just like one slot like halfway out, so I had had about another foot and a half or so to you know, the height of my arm. I was able to smack that branch. And it was a

live green tree. Where the break was, it looked really fibrous. You can see like the fibers in the tree like splintering open, and even had like a slight bit of sap kind of oozing out by then. But it was a totally fresh tree.

against it and then kind of use a pendulum. You'll use a little leverage or just snap the tree. But that only works on dead trees. You know, if it's something live, green tree, you're gonna be pulling at it's just gonnaband and bend and not snap. If anything is gonna you know, shove me back on the ground. So then I was just so confused about that. I didn't know what to do. I just looked everything start stared

there for a while. Realized it was already getting pretty dark at that point, because it took me forever to get up there, and I'm like, well, either I had to keep going forward to get to my shelter or head back to the truck, and I just didn't really didn't feel like staying there with only having a Ruger ten twenty two rifle on me, and that's I used to carry a survival knife, a bushcraft knife, and a Ruger ten twenty two, but that was mostly used for

just planking and squirrel hunting and rabbit hunting. I just had like a big fear of me whatever this thing was able to, you know, just completely snap that branch that by twenty two was going to do nothing. So I decided to leave and I hiked back out, and that's basically the the first half of my encounter with Andre.

It was kind of bald right there, and then on the center like where the belly would be kind of kind of balding right there. But all the hair was straight. There was no curly hair. It was all real straight, really fine hair.

Now I'm a big guy, you know, so I was just like kind of judging off myself of you know, how my body structure looks, you know, at that time, being about three point fifty and prior I did do a little bit of wrestling and MMA fighting. I did use the train, but I never got extremely yoked. You know. I was never a bodybuilder, but I know it's like to have some muscle mass with fat over it, and just kind of looking from what I saw compared to the height to the like the build of my body

and all that. You know, I was honestly nothing had weigh you know, seven hundred pounds or something or eight hundred pounds at least, you know, but I did. I did see a lot of good amount of muscle, you know.

side it looked like his fingers almost touched. And when I went up there, that tree branch was, you know, four or five inches stick, you know, maybe six inches I thought I was six, but probably four or five

inches stick. And as I'm sitting there, I'm holding the handle of the little walking stick that I got, and it's kind of like a bicycle grip size, you know, And I'm holding onto that in my hand, and I'm looking at it like me and my fingers wrapped around my thumb touch my you know, index finger, and my thumbs barely touching there, holding on that bike grip thing, and I'm looking at that thing, and I was thinking how big is a hand have to be to go

around that big old piece of tree and touch the fingers? You know? Oh?

off machines and all that. But uh, I don't know what they it was, what it was called, but he had something that when your kidneys go bad stops filtering, but uh, your eyes go all yellow and kind of red like bloodshot looking right or was it not jaundice or I can't remember what it was called, but it looked like my neighbor that was like the bad alcoholic just really yellow eyes, and the pupils were just like solid like dark brown or black, just really yellow and

just looking like sick, like you know, I didn't see no bright white at all.

there was like a finger like under the skin. You know, they were like, you know, not like a roll of pennies, but it was like, you know, just something way larger under the eyebrows that made that part of the lower part of the forehead stick out so far.

And even when he yelled when he hit his head, I didn't get scared like he was.

one leg had an injury or something. You know, like if you had like you got a cast on one foot, you know, with one of those walking boots or whatever, and you're just like walking anyways, but you know one's not.

the giant. So I started doing a lot of research on the giants, you know, and I got found out about giganticism and things like that, and I thought it was maybe that for a little bit, But then a lot of the research I was looking at that most people with giganticism don't live that long because they're you know, pituitary glands whatever their body is like overgrowing so quick that they most people die like in their twenties or thirties,

you know. And this thing was really old man status, you know, like there was you know, a normal human had there been eighties or nineties, you know, maybe pushing a hundred. So I'm like, there's no way this could be a person with jack andism because they die so young, you know, because they're the way their body overgrows and they just can't handle it and their heart gives out.

So I was looking at that, and then I started getting these stories about the giants that were found on Catalina Island and some of New Mexico in a cave that the natives had been battling for a while. And that kind of caught my interest because they said that those the you know, tribe of giant people that the locals had been fighting, had red hair, big red beards and long red hair, and what I saw had kind

of that reddish chocolate hair. So that so I started, you know, I started going down that path, you know, trying to find out about you know, these giants that had been supposedly, you know fighting the natives, and they cornered him in his cave, and instead of losing anybody else, I built a big giant fire in front of the cave to smoke them out and you know, just kill them by you know, carbon monoxide poisoning or whatever. And so that kind of led me down that path for

a while. And then and then from that it started turning towards cryptids, you know, doing research kind of. And then Bigfoot came up quite a bit of times, but I never really just put my finger on it. Oh, I saw the Bigfoot because in my mind it just, you know, was always a cave man. You know.

I was like, you know, I'm just gonna disappear for a while. I'm gonna go out in the woods, you know, unwine relaxed. So I got me a bottle of Jack Daniels and got me some mrs. For a couple of days. There's a freeze drive food. I'm like, you know, I'm gonna go hang out the creek. And I was out there, and southern California has a lot of wildfires. You know, it's the same with Oregon where I'm at currently. But

there was night that I was sitting there sleeping. I had just finished, you know, hanging out, chilling and drinking. And I had a little portable bluetooth speaker with an MP three player that you know, you download the music whatever, and I listened to that and my battery died on the MP three player. So I was like, well, I guess that's a wrap. You know, it's time to go

to bed. So I had laid down in the little raised bed I'd built in my shelter, and I had a small fire going in my shelter, but like in the cave entrance part to where you like I was saying, the smoke would pull away and all that. I just get a little radiant heat, little light. But it was like a really hot night, so I wasn't really had a big fire going, so I could smell the smoke

from my fire, but not really too bad. And I'd been laying down for about a half hours, almost asleep, and then I heard like a fult the side of my shelter. I was like, what was that is, like if a bird flew into the side or something. And I was thinking, oh, well, there's a lot of owls around there, and there's a lot of bats from the caves around there, and I was like, waybe a hour or bird or something flew into the shelter. About a

minute goes by, I heard another one, another one. Then it starts getting louder, and it's like a more faster, just like a rapid pace, things hitting the side of my shelter. I guess to the point where I could hear the things hitting my shelter and then kind of rolling away down the slope. So I was like, so we're throwing rocks at my you know, at my spot.

I was like, what the And by then I had already stopped carrying my Ruger ten twenty two and started carrying my glock to forty five APC with some heavy hard cast bullets, some buffalo boards, you know, plus beefs, you know, some bear stopping rounds. Because there had recently been a lot of spottings of mountain lions in the area and a couple mountain biers that had been attacked on the Orange County side of the mountain. So I

had my pistol. I was like, you know, I'm gonna go outside, maybe just pop around off on the dirt, chase the people off, and to go to sleep. And then there became an urgency to it. Right as I'm like trying to debate whether or not to go out of the shelter and you know, maybe yell, scream a little bit or whatever, I'm like, all right, well, something's

got to be done. So right as I'm like putting my headlamp on and turning the light on on my firearm, I go to stand up in the shelter and there's a pause for a minute, and then it rock hits my shelter. That was so big it broke the wall down on the entry like could be the I don't know the southwest corner of my structure, but the very outside corner. There's a couple pieces of the timber that

came out further right. Hanging things off on the outside, you know, hanging Europe or swimming in the creek, you know, hang up the shorts up there to dry off or whatever. But a rock had got thrown out the shelter that was so big, so hard that it ripped that whole

wall and my shelter open. So all of a sudden, I'm standing there and the whole left wall my shelter just gets ripped open, leans over, and it's the boards are like still attached together because I had used a pair of cord five fifty cord to lasso the walls together. But it hit hard enough we're it ripped out all the pair of cort up and down the steam. The wall stayed intact, and it just ripped the wall open, like two feet three feet open. That's when I was like,

what could possibly do that? Like you had to hit it with the truck or something. So I go swing the do open to go out of the shelter, and I look to that side because that's where the wall came off. It was pitch black, nothing, and then I

realized that there's a lot of smoke everywhere. I look back to the right that's going down the valley towards where the road is where I hike in, and I noticed that the whole hillside is on fire, all the way up the valley, all the way up the creek, where my whole path where I go to get in there is completely on fire. Then fire's coming up the hill. You know, it comes uphill a lot quicker than down here. But the fire's coming uphill towards me. So I freak out,

get in my shelter. I'd throw on this Alice pack I'd gotten from a buddy. Then Military is my favorite pack. But anyways, I throw my Alice pack on, go out of the shelter. I'm looking around, looking around, trying to figure out what's going on. That's when I see this massive rock on the floor that's like over a foot maybe foot and a half a diameter, laying right outside on the side of the wall the shelter. And I

was like, that rock is what broke the wall. And then I started thinking what could have thrown that rock? You know, how that rock could have fallen off the hill, would have came down and hit the roof of my shelter. You know, it's obviously thrown from an angle from like from the creek. I'm looking at this big rock. I freak out. I see the fire getting closer. I'm just

like screw. This started going up the valley, up the hill towards where the dried out waterfalls were, and they had a rope that was tied to the side, and sometimes in the waters high the kids will go up there and swing off the rope and jump into the creek. But I knew if I got to where that rope was, I could pull myself up the dry waterfall and I'd beat to an area that was only grad and dirt, and there was no trees or shrubs, you know, nothing

made her to catch fire. So I made my way over there, and I got over there, and I was having a lot of difficulty firing that rope. I was looking in a panic stak. You know, I'm already out of breath, you know. I just hooked it like a good you know, quarter mile, half a mile as quick as I could to get to that waterfall as the fire fall of me. Then I started noticing in the hillsides around me. I could see some light from the fire trucks, and I didn't see a water dropping helicopter,

but usually they wouldn't drop water at night. Usually the only fly in the daytime. So I'm like looking around, looking around. I finally find the rope, get up that little waterfall. I get to a dry flat spot and then I just sit down in the dirt and I'm watching the fire go up through the up through the little valley, and then exactly where that band was when my shelter was. That whole thing is burst into flames, ripped, roaring, and I'm sitting up there on the dirt looking watching

my whole shelters burn to the ground. And then I was kind of just like shocked at all. Man, I just all that work I've been put into for you know, six seven months building that shelter, It's just burnt to nothing. And then I started thinking about, well, what threw that rock? And then right as I'm thinking that, my dog does this thing where he just kind of starts flipping out, like you hears something. My dog goes taking off running again.

I was like, dude, get back here, get back here, and he goes tooking off, running kind of towards the fire. And then I was thinking that was Andre. That had to have been Andre. That was, you know, throwing those little rocks at my shelter, trying to like warn me, and I was just ignoring it. So that's when it just threw that massive rock and just busted the whole wall down to tell me, like, hey, get out of there.

You know, you gotta go and then that's when I was like, that thing just saved me, A thing just saved my life. You know. Then I came over this like overwhelming, like emotional feelings where like I almost busted down in tears, almost crying. I'm just sitting there. And I just sat there on that ridge all night till the sun came up, watching the watching everything burned down.

And that morning, once the sun was up real good, I was able to find a nice path to hike out, and hiked out and left, and I've never been there since, and it's been almost about fourteen years since the day.

quick could one of those take my life? You know, all of a sudden, my forty five didn't seem like it was going to do anything, you know, so I just got real cautious and I was like, you know, I got to figure out what's out there, you know. And I started getting close to there, like and I had a neighbor that worked in those orchards over there at the bottom of the hill, and we were talking about the fire one day, and he was older bicycle,

older Mexican guy. I'm half Mexican, and we were talking in Spanish and then he was telling me he was like oh and I saw him like, oh, I had a little, you know, a little cabin there and all that. And then he said, oh, will be careful when you're out there.

just be careful when you're out there, you know. Well, that's the only reference that I heard from anybody of you know, anything being in that area.

background and off roading and things like that. And the boss found out that, you know, I had a lot of you know, skills with equipment in you know, peep woods, sand trained desert snow mud, you know, the red clay, all kinds of stuff. And I was one of the newer guys, and they had sent me on a call to where a lot of people had gotten stuck in the trucks. Because those trucks are pretty heavy, you know,

most of them. We have about a thousand gallon holding tank and maybe four hundred gallon freshwater tank for cleaning the units out and refilling the water and all that. But they're pretty heavy. Most of them are only tool driving fibers get stuck everywhere. And the boss was just

paying toe bills to recover all these trucks. And then he said, hey, one of the guys said that you know, you know your you know your way around off road and all that, and I said yeah, and he said, hey, we got a bunch of units toilets this guy that paid his bill in months. And we sent a couple of people out there to pick them up. But everybody gets stuck trying to get out there. You know, you

think you could do it. So I went out there and lower tire pressure, used low gears and everything, and with the two wheel drive three point fifty, I got out there, got the units, brought them back, and then from that day on, after that first week of working there, like all the rural mountain routes and all the four

off locations, those became my routes. There was this valley in southern Oregon, were quite a bit of grow sites and there was a lot of gold mines, you know, a lot of claims out there, but it was all off four service roads and little plots of private property, but most of it was in the you know, US four service and things like that are off the edges

of you know, state parks and stuff. But so I end up getting this route going out to these locations where basically go to these locations at directions would be you know, three quarters a mile down this road and you see fork in the road. You know, look for the bent tree. Makeer right, you know, go down to the you know, abandoned double wide, make a left. You know,

they're all no addresses or anything like that. And I got real good at navigating out there, and over a point of about four and a half five year period of going out to these real rural sites where whether they're gold mining or growing, security is like of the utmost thing. Like everybody there's real you know, real unfriendly to newcomers

and outsiders and all that. And you know, people will start driving up the hill and a lot of the people they get on their CB radios start talking like, hey, there's you know, a white truck coming up to you know, anybody expected visitors or we see a new vehicle or you know there's a sheriff on the highway or whatever. It was. Everybody kind of washed out for each other because they all had their things going on, you know, legal or unlegal, but everybody was real hushed about it.

But uh, no matter how tight security is, you know, everybody loves the guy. You know, that's one thing you need. You know, all those growth sites, gold mines, they all have porta potties or RVs that need to be pumped out, you know, so like you go up the mountain to service them. You know, some would be on a weekly basis and would be once a month, you know, depending on what was going on. But you know, being uh, being the porta partty guy, you get asked to a

lot of spots where nobody's allowed it. You know. I became pretty close friends with a lot of these old timers up there, and one of them, uh, we'll just say, uh, there are a lot of old like h Vietnam vets and things like that, majority of them and a couple

of moonshiners up there. But there's one gentleman in particular that when I used to go start services site, he had a old camper trailer that hadn't been from like the seventies or eighties, falling apart just you know, the whole roof was like three tarps, you know, glued on duc dape. He had this old Dodge pickup and just

really run down camp. But I'd go out there and he had a porta party that I would service, and then he also had his HARV that i'd pump out and when the winner would come, we'd get good enough snow and all that that that even the customers up there would have trouble getting out, so they kind of stock upon supplies for you know, a month and a half, two month periods sometimes where they couldn't get out either.

And but basically the way to get service did either be on a set schedule or they'd call for service, and sometimes they wouldn't be able to, you know, call for service whatever it so would be in the area, and it was kind of customer we were used to going to the boss will be like, oh, we'll swing by X location see if they need service you while

I'm up there, you know. And at one point winter had started passing, and I came back up at the beginning of the next spring, and I noticed that that old guy, we'll just say, Whiskey Pete whatever, because he did his own shine, moonshine and all that stuff too, But Whiskey Pete. I go up to Whiskey Pete and he doesn't have this beat up old Dodge Ram anymore in his nineteen seventies trailer. All of a sudden, he's got a brand new four f five to fifty super

duty four by four. His old beat up John Deere tractor he has. Now he's got brand new skid steer, like a forty foot big text trailer with a brand new Kbota tractor sitting on there, and really nice fifth wheel trailer, all brand like, all equipment and everything on the whole site was all brand new everything. I'm like, hey, what's going on? Bro? I was like, I thought I was at the wrong spot, and I started talking to him and then he just told me, He's like, yeah,

things have been crazy around here. You know, that's why why I came to meet you at the bar. I was just sure who was coming up and their whole normal paranoid thing. And that's when I was kind of confusing. He came down with that brand new F five fifty, so I ended up going up there go to pump out his new trailer and all I'm looking around like, dude,

how did you get all this stuff? And then he told me he's just like, hey, man, and a lot of the guys want to talk to each other a lot of things, but like everybody saw me as the outsiders, like you know, the safe guy, you know, the porta potty guy. So they confide to me a lot of things, and he just telled me. He's like, hey, man, I hit a vein. I said, what does that mean. He's like, dude, I found some gold. I was like, you say that every week when I'm up here, you know, and he's like, no,

I found gold. So I saw I bought all this stuff. And he's telling me the yeah, I've already sent a lot of money to my family. And he's like, but yeah, I hit a vein. And I'm like, all right, well, cool man, congrats and all that stuff. And I was like, it just a lot of equipment, you know, just that f five fifty. I was like, I don't know, one hundred thousand dollars truck, you know. And he was telling me, he's like, everything's paid in full. That's when I was like, man,

maybe he really did get lucky. And then winter really started like setting in and I'm like, all right, well, you know, it's gonna be a while before I see him again. I'm like, all right, well, you know, I dropped off a holding tank firm. It's a large, like one hundred and fifty gallon tank you just put on the floor and run your RV to it for a

little extra you know, storage. The last through the snow, and then I was getting ready to leave, and then the guy gave me a three hundred dollars tip, right, and I'm like sweet man, and he's like, eh, you know, get something for the kids for Christmas. I'm like, cool man. I had a lot of customers that would dip me twenty bucks here and there, or you know, hey we're barbecuing, you know, you want some ribs or something like that, but I'd never really gotten any large tips before. So

I was like, all right, cool. I pocketed it and everything, and I took off, went on route, started talking to other people. And as soon as I started going to the other pro sites and too the other you know, mining claims, everybody started thrilling me questions right away, like hey, what did you see up there? What's going on? But done like no, no, I went up there service for them. They're like, hey, did you see where you know? Where's

the new tractor? Where's the people are asking all these questions like what's going on dude, like for reals, and they said, oh, well, we know he found gold, but he's he's basically closed off the camp. Nobody's come up here with the camp for a while. He doesn't let anybody in anymore, like or like you're the first person who's been up there in the months. He don't let anybody in there anymore. And he barely gets on the

radio to communicate anymore. And I'm like, oh, I was like, I don't know, he's doing his thing or whateverybody didn't really want to talk about it, and uh, I just finished hero oute whatever. Winter I end up wrapping up. I am not going up there for like about two months or so. I went back up there, and the gentleman, you want to say, whiskey Pete came at me with the offer and he said, hey, man, I've been people

who have been trying to rob me. You know. He's like, I can't even go down the mountain now without people stopping me trying to rob me. And then I noticed that he had a AK forty seven pistol at draco just slung over her side and he just had it on him. And before that I'd see him carry a revolver once in a while, you know. But he was like really getting scared, you know, he was like really

high up in intensity. And he told me, yeah, he's like I've been doing real good and he said, hey, I need you to talk to your boss about something. He's like, you're the only person who can get up and down this mountain without question. And he's like, hey man. And he showed me this big concrete slab with it just looked kind of like a sludge and whatever shit on there, with some water on it. And he told me, he's like, hey, do you think your truck could pump

this stuff up? I said, yeah, it's just you know, this is no big rock, so you know, clogged, the clogged the pump up or the valve. Yeah, you know, it sucked that into the tank. I was like, is that sewage or and he said no, it's uh, you know, he's like, it's tailings whatever, it's crushed. He said, there's golden here. So there's golden there. And he's like, yeah, it's not has it been cleaned out yet, but there's

a lot of golden here. And the guy was trying to convince me to ask my boss if I could take a load up there, just pump out this big slab with the sludge and water on it, and then take it to a you know, undisclosed location. They said they're gonna be probably about one hundred miles away and then just dump out the whole holding tank. He said, yeah, come up here empty, you know, close the takeout, clean it out, come up here. Just suck this whole ground up,

take it to the place. And he's I'll tell your boss, I'll give him five thousand bucks. I'll give you five thousand bucks, you know, one hundred mile drive. And I was like, that's good money, you know, sucking up this and I was like, this is really I'm staring at it. I don't see any gold in there, but he's telling me there's a lot of gold in there. So I'm like, yeah, I'll talk to my boss about it. Talk to my boss about He said, no way, we're not doing nothing

with it. Forget about it. I'm like, all right, cool, conversation done. I went back to next week, told him, hey, I can't do nothing. You know, maybe call a different septic company and maybe can talk somebody else into it, but Boston can let me use equipment. He's like, all right, So that passes in. I'm really really like, man, this guy's really got a lot of gold going on if he's trying to have it pumped into a sewage truck to transport it down the mountain without anybody knowing that

he's bringing gold out of his sight. So then I'm like, this is getting crazy with this guy. That's gold, right, He's got a lot of gold. You know. Me and myself, I went paying once or twice in the creek. I never even found a spectacle, not a flake, nothing, you know. So I'm like, all right, whatever. A little while goes on later and I'm maybe two three months pass. He doesn't call. He's a call for servers and a call for servers, and it's my boss is like, hey, you know,

why don't you go up there? Take a look. I go to go up there. The whole entry gate is like barricaded off. He's got a bunch of big boulders in the front, and then his tractor parked behind the boulders. Like there's no way I'm getting up there. So I'm like, all right, skip it, mark it off as a you know, lockate, no service, go leave. Winter comes around again, so now it's about a year since he's you know, hit a vein as he put it or whatever, and the boss says, hey,

you need to go up there. We haven't services guy for a while. So I get up there. I go to service him, and the gates open, those bowlers are moved, and the tractor's just like off to the side, almost like in the ditch, like half in the ditch. I drive up there and look around. His whole camp is just tossed up. There's this equipment laid over all. His shipping containers are open, wide open, things thrown on the floor everything. I'm like, what's going on. I'm like, well, obviously,

you know, I'm I'm hitting the horn. He doesn't come out, and I'm like, yeah, you know, it's something wrong here. I'm leaving. I turn around, I leave, I go to the next spot. And we'll just call this guy the preacher, right. So I go to the preacher's mining claim, very religious man and so is a whiskey pete. And I go over the and I've never seen this guy take a sit with alcohol or smoke or anything. The pastors. I go over the pastors. He's sitting on his front porch.

This guy smashed, he just hammered, just like plastered, drunk, like what's going on? And you know, and he's just crying and he starts crying. He's like bawling, crying, and he starts confiding in me that he feels so bad and he doesn't know if he's going to get into heaven now because is what he's done and all this what's going on. And then he starts telling me that they lost communication with Pete for a while over the radio with everybody on the mountain, and they noticed that

he wasn't coming out no more at all. So a couple of the guys that were good friends of his decided to go up there, and they went up there and they found him dead in his fifth little trailer, laying in the bed, dead.

body was like real bloated and all that. And they go outside and they're like, oh, well, we need to call the cops, you know, we need to you know, notify the family or call you know, paramics or somebody to come up, you know, come get his body and this and that, and one of the guys mentioned like, hey, well should we look around first, and the other guys like, what do you mean, Like, well, he's got abless gold. You know, it's got to be somewhere here, So we

look for the gold first. So they decide, all right, we'll start, let look real quick, and then we'll call. And now I guess it became this thing. We're there up at his at his at his spot, had his claim for like four or five weeks, carrying it up inch per inch, and that's where all that damage ass

ball was, everything tossed over. They were looking for his goals because he had it, came down the mountain for months to cash in gold, and they know he was bringing a lot of golds, so they're like, this goal has got to be somewhere. So they're looking around, looking around, and they're thinking, but if it's under his bed, you know. So they told me that they literally rolled over his body on the bed. At this point, he'd already been dead for six seven weeks, you know, maybe two months

at this point. They rolled his body over and folded the mattress in half so they could lift up under his bed and look under his bed for gold. They couldn't find any anything under there that was gold at all. So as they were putting the unfolding the mattress, putting it back, they noticed that he had his little notepad and his bible in his back pocket. And he had his little bible he carried all the time. He'd write different things, highlight things in there and stuff and this

little notepad and they're like, oh, the notepad. So they grabbed the notepad and the bible out of his pocket. They're looking through the notepad and they can't really find anything, find anything, And they go look in his bible and there's like a little passage written like a note to his son with GPS coordinates, and he told us for his son. He's like, hey, I love you. You know, I'm sorry for things in life, this and that. And he's like, but you know, go to the spot this is will

change your life. So they read that and immediately thinking, this is where the guy buried the gold. This is the cordinate's right here, this is where the gold is. You know, there's a note for his son to get the gold. This is the gold. Let's go look. So they go back. The guy yanks his GPS out of his pickup truck. They start walking around the GPS they put the coordinates in and they find this spot that

leads them to the GPS coordinates. They go out there with shovels and pickaxes, and there was a spot where you couldn't really get in with the a tractor or any equipment. It's kind of like on the side of a hill. They have to spot. They start looking around, looking around, and they got a metal detector too, and

then they find this rock hammer. But he says, basically like the hammer one side's like it's a small hammer, like a little ballping hammer kind of but on one side it's like a little pick and the other side is kind of like a bull being like a flat hammer or whatever. But they find this hammer like buried just like two inches under the dirt. So like, oh, this has got to be a you know, X Marx spot.

They move a hammer, they start digging. At this point, they'd already talked to a lot of other guys in the mountains, and now there's like six dudes out there, all from like fifty years old to like ninety years old. A bunch of really old dudes, old timers, digging with shovels and pick axes. They get down about three or four feet and they find a large bone and they're like, you know, did you know they knew he's had balls

with people trying to rob him? And they're like, well, you know, did he kill somebody who was trying to rob her, you know, and bury the body? And they're like, well, maybe it's not a human bone, you know, Let's keep looking.

So they keep digging and they start to find more bones and like, hey man, these bones are like really big, and they're like, well, like, well, maybe he buried the gold under the body, you know, thinking if somebody dug down and found a body, they're gonna stop digging and the goal is gonna be under the body, you know. So they amongst each other they discuss it and they're like,

all right, let's keep digging. They continue to dig a little bit more, and that's when they find the skull, and they realize that the skull is way bigger than the normal human skull and it's not shaped the same

as a regular human skull. They get they get they get all real confused, and they're just discussing what to do, and then one of them just says it's sasquatch, and they all look at each other like no, and they're like standing at the skull, stare at the skull, and they're like bury it, cover it back up, cover it back up. So they started throwing all the bones back

in the hole, but all the dirt over it. They threw that rock camera at the bottom down where they'd found those bones, covered the whole thing up, left, left the whole mind, the whole site altogether. They never found any goals, all of them left and decided to like do a pack of secrecy that nobody's gonna discuss what happened. They're is gonna wait for somebody else to find the body. They're not even gonna know acknowledge that he's dead, you

know nothing. They were never there, you know, everybody, you know, hush and uh but basically the you know, pastor of the features, you know, sitting there crying, balling and just telling me about how he you know, he is going to go to hell because uh, you know, the guy was dead up there, and you know they just hit it, you know, and let his body brought away and wasn't able to you know, the family wasn't able to grieve and bury him or anything, and just out of their

pure greed for gold, and he started telling me how like, you know, you know, once you once you get a little gold in your hand, he went more and more, and you know, the nugget is never big enough, you know. And he starts telling me about like, you know, how he got addicted to gold mining, you know, twenty plus years before and I've spent his whole life since. And he was just crying and balling. I'm like, man, is this real? Like is this trooper? Then I was thinking

about what I saw with the whole campsite. Everything just ripped up and tore up. So I'm like, man, and I was like, you know, I'm like, well, why don't you call the comps or something, you know, it just anonys me. And then he said that one of the other guys had already called and that they had just been up there like the week before and took in the whiskey Peach's body. They had already just notified the Mexican and there waiting for a Mexican to come out

to the property and all that stuff. And it just kind of blew my mind that I was more blown away to the greed of them having this dead body sitting there while they're tearing up this guy's property looking for golds, and then the whole thing of them like turning the body over to look under the bed for gold because they were so struck by having to find golds, you know, and the whole story of everything. I thought about it, you know, and I was like, that's crazy.

And then I started thinking about does such I have a dead fast launch on his poverty? Like did he kill a fast watch and bury it? You know? And then I was like, oh man, this is just crazy. After that, I told my boss. I was like, hey, man, I can't do that route anymore, you know, tired of dealing with customers, too far between locations, you know, I don't get home till after dark. I'm just I'm not going to do the route anymore. So I stopped doing

that route. And the same thing. I've never been back since.

people have this thing. It's like a big cardboard cutout, like you get like, you know, a four by ten sheet of plywood and they kind of cut out the outline like a big stancil of a sasquatch, and then they painted black or brown and they screw it on the trees. You know. I see it all over Oregon.

At the beginning of his driveway to go up to Pett's place, he had one on each side of the driveway since before, like when I just started and and it said, you know, you know, keep out, beware, I'm watching, you know, all that stuff. But that wasn't a big thing because everybody in southern Oregon has some kind of

sasquatch something, you know. And then thinking back to I do remember him a couple of times talking like, yeah, we'll be carefully there, you know, I'd believing kind of later to be careful, you know, sasquatch out in the woods, and you know, little quotes and stuff like that. But he never really told me specifically like hey, I've seen I've seen a squatch, or I killed a squatch or anything like that. But it was kind of just kind of you know, common knowledge or just spoken normally, you know,

in that general area. So I never really overthunk it, you know. But then after they say his sasquatch and all that, I started thinking back to like, yeah, he had a lot of big foot stuff on his property, you know, little wind chimes with bigfoot and just different little things, you know, bigfoot sticker on the side of his old trailer before he got the new one and all that. So I'm like, hey, he probably was a believer. But was he a believer because he found one and killed it?

neighbors Hillside and the Hillside. You know, I rarely hear stories of anybody calling authorities for any problems that's going on there. You know, they they take care of everything themselves. So the fact that there's somebody buried there wasn't really too much of a shock to me. But the fact that they said they was giant, and his skull was

real huge and looked different. And then then they said, oh, well the guys mentioned it's a task watch, and they're like, oh, they all panicked and just start bearing it.

and all that. That's when I was like, man, this guy is serious. You know, something serious is going on. After I had just left the other place that was torn up, you know, and I'm like, you know, I was just believing like him word for word. You know, he doesn't seem like he's never seemed like a dishonest person in any sort, you know. And the worst part about all this is I heard from the next guy

that took over that route. They'd sent one guy he got lost everywhere, couldn't find any of the locations because they're real hard to find. So then they told me like, hey, you know, you want to do a ride along with the next guy who's going to take over the route, so you could show him the route. And I said, no, not really, I'm not going up there no more. And so they found another guy that worked with the company that used to do that route prior to me working there.

They sent him up there, and when he came down the mountain, uh, he was talking about the Uh yeah, the preacher committed suicide. I said what I said, I said, preacher pastor, like pastor, I was like, you know, the well, you know whatever, the you know, the yellow car and this, you know, like that guy is a yeat. He blew his head off shotgun. Nobody knows. Nobody knows why he blew his head off.

haven't not been back up there since. But you know that's what I heard, is you know pastor uh you know opted out, shall.

or whatever. Like all this caveman stuff, I'm like, is just just rubbing it in my face, you know, Like when I moved away from Soak I was just kind of trying to block out of my mind forget about it. I'm seeing all this caveman stuff, right, and I'm still on an impression that, you know, Andre, that I saw with some kind of caveman or some giant or you know, something like that, right, And I see all this big

foot stuff all the time. I'm like, hen, he's idiots believing in bigfoot, right, So I'd like the idiots with their bigfoot stuff. But I'm seeing all this caveman stuff. But I would sit back at you know, bonfires, hanging out, you know, captain with the boys, and I'd heard people kind of talk a little little stories here and there about bigfoot and all that. But you know, me personally, I'm you know, I still don't consider that I've seen a big foot. I saw something else, you know, But

out here it's like bigfoot just common knowledge. Some people, you know, you know, not out of ten would be like, oh, that's a myth and that's the greatest host of all all times, and you know whatever, it's just serious. A he's saying enough people everybody thinks it's true, you know. And then like one I had ten people were like, yeah, they're real, like, oh, my uncle had one at the back of his property, you know, and that's just you know common. No, it's like it's not a big deal.

But then like the other night, people you talk to you are like, you're ridiculous, you know. So I never mentioned to anybody what I saw in sothern of California with the andundree jokes. I just didn't want to be rig called, like, oh you saw a cave man, you know, So I just never really mentioned it. But I just kind of listen to other people's stories and you know, but out here, I've never seen nothing in Oregon personally, I've never seen nothing in a couple of black bears. Yeah,

things like that. But yeah, we'll take it for what it is. But you know, the look in that man's face, I believe what he was telling.