An Unstoppable Force! | Idaho

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So this was a twenty twenty one Elk hunting season. I didn't draw my usual tag in in central Idaho where I grew up. Usually we hunt in the frank Kirch Wilderness, but didn't draw early enough.

I'm out of state now, I live.

In Washington, so closest best choice was up in the Panhandle of Idaho, so we got our tags there. My dad headed out about half a week early before opening day. I still had to finish up work for the week, and he wanted to scout. Turns out he had actually fought on a wild He was a wildland firefighter for most of his life and he had been up there, so.

He knew it. I hadn't, even though I grew up in Idaho.

North Idaho was like a different state to us, So I got up there a couple of days before opening season. He met me at the base of the mountain and we just started winding our way up. It was about a two hour drive just to get to the top of this ridge line, and then from there just trying to find a spot to a flat spot. That's something

No one hunts up on that mountain anyways.

Yeah, have fun, And we thought, hey, great, we don't do the road hunting thing not that's a problem if people are driving around and just looking that way. It's just we I didn't grow up that way. The frank Church Wilderness. It's one road in, one road out, and it's actually illegal to even drive a bicycle off of the main If you can call at a road, we just get out there and hook it. Put in a lot of mileage scouting. So we thought that was great.

It was horrible. So I went east.

I went west along the ridge line pretty much hit a dead end pretty quick. There's this massive rock formation that goes from the top of the mountain all the way to the bottom, and it's impassable by foot.

So I started going.

South a little bit, ended up coming back by base camp and it was roughly noon twelve thirty and decided I'd been all over the southwest portion of that mountain the previous two days, so let's just head.

South by southeast.

I knew my dad was due east on the ridge line, so I wasn't worried about bumping into him or anything. I'm just winding my way down this slope, and up to this point I had seen two deer and they were mule's actually up there instead of white tail.

But nothing else.

No spoor, no track, no game trails, nothing. So as I'm winding down this ridge, I come across the first or no, I'm sorry, ridge slope. I come across the first game trail i'd seen, and I got pretty excited because that meant there at least that animals across that awful mountain.

So I start following it about southeast.

So heading down the slope, a little bit and came into an area that was a little bit open, and I could see down below south of me there was actually some open grassy areas.

I wouldn't call them meadows, maybe clearings.

And that got me even more excited, because that's a place elk would be grazing around on or dusk. And at this point it's close to one o'clock and I'm thinking, Okay, if I get down there and I keep going, that means I have to go up this mountain in the dark, and there's grizzly and stuff up there.

I wasn't too worried about them there. We were pretty high up.

But still I just figured, you know what, let's follow this game trail to start. And I'd been standing there, I don't know, five ten minutes, just looking down and looking to the game trail, which went actually east by northeast, so back up the mountain a little bit, which was more or less the direction I wanted to head towards the last half of the day. And I'm just standing

And I just thought, okay, yeah, whatever, that's weird.

I don't know sound carries, but sure sounds like it was about two hundred and fifty three hundred yards down slope, and I thought, I don't know what to do, but times daylight's burning, I'm gonna leave.

And so I was.

I was just gonna keep falling the trail, and then I hear two more fuck fuck, and they're from the same relative positions. I was like, Okay, you know what, I haven't seen anything.

This sounds weird. Let's go see what's going on. And at this.

Point I was just thinking that if these are people, what would they be doing down there. This doesn't sound like someone cutting wood. It just sounds like someone taking a big chunk of wood and just whacking it on a tree. I'm like, this doesn't make any sense, but all right, let's go find out what it is. I'm bored, so I start going down the slope and like I said, it would go in steps, so slope down and then hit a little bit of grass. In that first little catch,

I hear it again.

So now I'm like, Okay, now I have to go figure out what's doing this. So my brain switched from this might be a person down there doing who knows what to I don't know what type of animal I've hunted in the Pacific Northwest my whole life. What animal could do that? But I thought, that's the only thing

It just didn't make sense. So I'm going through animals.

Maybe a bear's messing with a log, maybe something's kicking a tree, whatever, I'm gonna find out. So I start walking down again, and I'm stopping frequently. I had gone into stalking modes. So I'm walking very quietly, trying not to even break the crust on the snow, that little skiff of snow too much, and listening.

I hear nothing. The wind's not blowing.

I started thinking, maybe it's a tree that's bumping into another tree, but I would stop and look in a slight breeze, maybe five mile an hour breeze would come up, but hardly enough to even wiggle, like I said, grass, So okay, that's weird, that's not it. But I'm not hearing anything. So I'm like I, once again, maybe I should just turn around for a gain this happened and come back tomorrow.

And then I get another single knock.

Okay, whatever it is, it's still down there doing whatever it's doing.

I'm gonna keep going.

And this repeats itself again, and I get a third knock, and I'm repeating the same process. I started moving so quietly and slowly because I wanted I started getting this weird feeling that these knocks were only coming when I was stopped, and that didn't make any sense.

But I wasn't hearing them while I was walking.

And once again, this whole distance was about two hundred and fifty maybe three hundred yards, And this whole time me closing on where I thought the sound was coming from ended up being about fifty minutes. So you can see that I wasn't rushing and bashing through trees and obscuring any sound.

I'm listening and.

It I I'd never heard that sound until I had been stopped for minutes, and then I would get a single sound and that would keep me going. And by the time I had gotten the fourth knock and it once again disrepeated itself like that whole pattern. I was now getting down off the slope and into level ground towards that grassy area. And now I'm probably fifty fifty sixty yards out from this grassy area, and at the end of it was basically a wall of young trees

What this is.

Somehow, I'm level, I'm walking, and to my right there's this little I describe it as a long halfpipe in the ground.

It's just it.

If it was runoff, boy, it cut a nice smooth little gulch there. But I knew that in order to get into this clearing, I'd have to cross that, and once I crossed that, all the trees that I thought I was using as cover there was intermittent trees that I was trying to move behind a little bit because.

My thinking is, oh, I'm gonna sneak up on.

Some animal doing something weird, so let's be quiet and see what it's doing and how it's making that sound.

And I'm getting closer.

And when I reached the edge of that little dip in the ground, I stopped and go, Okay, once you cross this, you are now in the clearing and you're out in the wide open, so if something's back there, it can possibly see you. So I'm just okay, getting ready, had my rifle to my not up, but it'll low ready, so but stuck in my shoulder, muzzle down towards the ground, and I take a deep breath.

I'm like, all right, here we go.

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And right as I'm about to do that comes I can only describe it like a slow rate of fire machine gun, but it's the deep wood knocks just boom, is fast like a machine gun, and but loud, deep, not like a stick cracking against a tree, but the same deep, thick sounding knocks, but just like rapid fire. And I just was like, what the is going on here? And I'm like, okay, and I remember saying this in my head. I'm like, it's definitely behind those trees, because that's where that sound came from.

And so I'm like, all right, oh boy.

And now I'm getting a little nervous because I'm like, I can't see into those trees, so maybe I should skirt out into this clearing and work my way around.

The trees went in a.

Imagine a capital j and I was below the foot of the jay, and the trees arked around, and I thought, okay, I'll loop around and just keep some distance from these trees in case some animal comes back out at me. So take a deep breath, get the rifle Steady wants to get knock pointing it. Those rules of gun safety. I've been handling guns since I was four. I didn't have a target, I didn't know what was back there.

This thing.

I don't know what that was swinging, but it must have been picked up a small tree, and just the force and violence behind this was just a kaboom. It just smashed into I don't know, it floored me. I literally, if someone could have caught me on video, I just stumbled backwards, almost tripped and fell over. I've got all my gear on my back, my rifle slung in, and I just staggered back in shock, and I look up and it all I could see was the chest up and it. Let me tell you, when I told this,

What people would say, looking down your nose.

And this is how I told people this story. I heard this massive explosive smash, and then it's like film reels of my brain got cut out, and I don't remember what happened except for what I did next, which was I see this thing maybe for one thousand and one, one thousand and two, maybe three, probably not more like two seconds, and I get off the X it's looking right at me. I take a diagonal out into the

You're not going to be able to stop it before it gets you.

And when I told that to someone else, they said, yeah, that's the the fear talking.

That's a three oh eight. It's a powerful rifle.

You're hunting elk with it, right, And I'm like, I know the capability of that round.

That's what scares me is I could kill it.

I was talking about stopping it, not killing it.

Like a bear charge.

You can kill it, but then it's got a whole minute to kill you.

I meant stop it.

Whether that minute died right instantly or it died thirty minutes later. I wasn't sure if maybe if I got all talent ten rounds in that mag into it and then switched mags, which I had a spare on my belt, maybe that would have. But at this point we're thirty five yards apart and I'm backing up, so I'm creating distance. What I'm trying to say that was the part of my brain that I didn't think about any of that. I've I've trained with firearms a lot and done some

Me, and it was the road.

And I hit that road, went crashing into the embankment on the other side, pivoted, put the rifle between my legs, and sat there just waiting for something, this head, to this huge head to come popping up over the edge of the road, and just and I it didn't. And I never heard a single sound ever again after that. I was so I was so shook up. I was less than a quarter mile from our trucks, and I didn't I couldn't figure out what to do. And I looked down in the snow that was left, and I

I couldn't start my truck.

I was shaking so badly, just tears and and everything running into my beard. I was just I finally got the truck started and turned the heat on because I was shaking so badly.

I thought I was going into shock.

And and I just sat there and I feel like a coward, waited for my wait until my dad got back to camp and we ate dinner. I didn't say a word. He probably thought I was just tired, grumpy and went to sleep. And I stayed up all night in my truck holding that revolver with the rifle nearby, just I don't know, waiting to see if you would this thing would show up. And by morning I was

Hip, grab extra mags, and I'm gonna go back down there. I wasn't. It was just stupid.

That lasted about thirty seconds, and then we ate breakfast and my dad asked me, He.

Said, how was it down that slope? Yesterday.

I said, that's not worth it, It's not worth the time. He said, all right, let's just follow this ridge line. And we stuck to the ridge line. And I stayed out there another nine eight nine days. Didn't say a word, you know, to anybody for a long time, other than telling the story minus what I saw. It wasn't till much later that I didn't know what was going on in my brain. Why I could tell this story, why I would talk about it.

I did.

I work in the medical field, but I don't understand that trauma and psych stuff, and I just didn't realize what was going on until you know, nightmares, Uh, just daytime. I'd be out working in the yard and just something would spark my memory and I would just tears would just start running out of my eyes and start shaking, and it just messed. And you know, like I said, I didn't tell my wife. I started drinking more just to get to sleep, just shut down. Not all the time,

I didn't see anything.

And then a year later to almost to the day, we're walking around looking at Halloween decorations in our neighborhood and someone had one of those ten foot tall skeletons out there in their yard and we were looking. I said, that's about how tall that thing was. And she looked at me and she goes, wait, what do you She's like, that is that's what you saw? I said, I didn't see a ten foot tall skeleton. I said, but it was about that tall. And she just looked at me, like,

And the other part was deeper than that.

It was like, if you say out loud what you saw, now, it really does exist, and you have to accept that that you've been out in the woods by yourself hunting for the most part your entire life, and this is there and it took just a lot of therapy and time and you know, quit any you know alcohol thing you got that out that wasn't helping anything one bit, and yeah, yeah, that's most of it. And to this bay,

The thing that.

Got me was, I don't understand the size of this thing. Don't think I'm exaggerating when I say ten foot, because we were both on level ground and I'd been staring at these trees a while, and in relation to me, I had a rough approximation that they were, you know, seven eight foot and this thing's chess what chest up was above these some of these trees that it was standing in.

But just the size. The only way I.

Guess I could compare it is if you've ever seen a cape buffalo or something like that, They're just a massive animal. I'm not saying this thing look like a bodybuild or anything.

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It was just a wall of meat and bone and hair. It was just so big.

When it was standing obviously on two legs and glaring at me. The only thing I could see of its face. And once again I didn't look.

At it very long.

I deliberately I glanced and saw it and got this broad picture of it. I was not going to look that thing in the eyes, and like I said, I got out of its eye line of sight and into that meadow as quick as I could. But its skin, if that's what it was, its skin was must have been black, because it's I could just see a strip where I guess the nose is and most of the forehead, and then it just had like a beard and mustage, you know, fully, just like a bearded dude.

All the way up to his cheek bones.

The hair came down pretty far in its brow, so it wasn't a high forehead. But that's all I saw. I didn't see eyes, I didn't see lips. I tried not to fill in details and exaggerate. It was just like this black tea big beard hair. Its hair wasn't long and shaggy. It it looked dense, but not very long.

It was strange, but it was.

It was like looking at a tree where there's a predominant color, but there's some other shades that are so subtly blended in that it almost you question, like, Okay, what color would I say?

That is? He never made a sound.

I usually say he because I could see most of the chest and it was just flat.

But that's about it for that Dan.

That's a wild, wild account, probably one of the more intense ones that I have heard. I can definitely see how it would have taken you a long time to get to the point to share that with people, for sure? Is it okay if I ask you some questions about that experience?

Of course? Yeah? All right.

So you mentioned already that there there were parts of it that you didn't look at for certain reasons. Are there details of the face that you were able to remember. I know you didn't look into the eyes.

Yeah, and I don't think I could have seen the eyes anyways. I don't know if it was just heavy browed or recess sockets, but.

It gets more or less look like just a massive human head.

I didn't I could see the whole profile of it because it was in I guess the reason I could tell you the color is it was in such contrast to all those beautiful green, young trees that it was standing in the profile. As far as the head didn't look particularly conical. It just looked like a big human head covered in hair and a beard and mustache and just all the.

Way up to his cheekbones.

And I thought about it, you know, people I've listened to obviously your podcast and some other ones now and talking about the nose profile. I couldn't get that any real good profile. But it didn't seem overly broad, if that makes sense, just because that strip that I assumed was its black skin nose was didn't look like it

You can get a headshot and shut it down right away.

But the other option is you break its bone structure with big heavy bullets. And three oh eight is not a big heavy bullet.

And I.

Don't know how thick this thing was. But it just seemed this is all happening in an instant. And yes, I wasn't scared. This was stark terror. It's the only time in my life I thought wildland firefire grown up and have almost gotten burned over, and not once was I in terror. Yeah, maybe a little bit of adrenaline, but training kicks in this was just the only thing that got me through that was I've had the opportunity

I enjoy firearms.

And when you can get out and do that with somebodies and just have a good time and just forget about everything else. But came in handy because I don't. I would have either stood there and then he would have decided me. That last knock or whatever you want to call it was obviously you need to leave and for it to show itself. And like I said, it was a guy in a bar, puffed up and just looking down at you, some big dude, like you need to it out of here. And I did, and maybe

But not on that ridge, and I never heard it.

I hunted for another three days by myself in the lower areas below that mountain. I never heard or saw anything again. As far as that goes.

So to me, that feels like you are almost in an area that you were not supposed to be, and it's just making sure that you didn't get any closer to whatever was going on in that area. That's what I'm taking from that so far.

Yeah, the thing that's always hung me up is why did it keep knocking when if it had stopped I was leaving.

Why did it keep.

Knocking when I stopped and was hesitating about going further it? You know what, I sent an email to someone who's actually an ex girlfriend and I said, I just got out. I just survived in amb because that's when I was stumbling back on the road, I wasn't thinking of anything. But when I got in my truck and was finally felt somewhat safe. That's the one thing that went through my brain is this was a perfect kill zone. It was a funnel, trees on all sides except for that

Why didn't it just let me walk away?

If it had stopped making those knocks or maybe it was a different one, I don't know. That's what's hung me up to this day. And a lot of people say, oh, they wouldn't do that, and they're not out to get you in. I was like, I'm not. If it was it would have had me. But what was it doing?

Was this just?

I don't think it's coincidence because if I had stopped and heard a knock once or twice, sure, but four times, and only when I stopped, I wasn't just standing there for a couple seconds.

It could be five minutes, maybe a little bit more.

And then only when I'm like, ah, this might not be worth my time. Fuck I hear it and it kept me going. It still could be the a coincidence. I'm not trying to make anything of it. That's just what my brain came to was I got lured into an ambush point and let go. I don't think if that's the case, I don't think I had anything to do with me as a person. I just happened to be a lone hunter out there, and maybe they're like, hey, let's see if we can make a chance with this one.

I don't even know when I was there.

It's tricky because it would it have been a different story if you were an elk? Is that what they were waiting for is an elk to come down? There's all these things we don't know. Yeah, but from what you remember and from what you were able to see, how would you categorize what you saw? Would it be something maybe more human looking or ape looking, or just something that's not even in those two categories.

I would lean more towards that, not not in either one.

Yeah, sure, a humanoid shape as far as bipedal shoulders, head, that's it. Even comparing it to a great epe like a gorilla or camp or something. It just didn't It didn't make any It doesn't. It just doesn't make any sense. They're not like, they're not that big and square shouldered and thick like it just yeah, it's hard. It's hard to even categorize it at all other than hey it Yeah, it had a human shaped up or towards so and

So I don't know.

And just to clarify, you'd said that you only saw things chest and up right, Yeah.

Yeah, it was. These trees were so intermingled.

They were pushing out from the main forest into that clearing and so there was a lot of younger ones interlaced, and so it was really dense. That's what was worrying me is I couldn't see anywhere. You couldn't see anything within that grove of trees at all passed. So it had I don't know if it must have if it was crouched or behind them and came forward a little bit.

I think it must have been crouched. I don't know.

Do you remember was there a smell around at that time? Were there any sounds in the forest around that time.

No, it was pretty quiet.

Yeah, it's so interesting. Did you ever so this is after this all took place. Did you ever look into that area to see if there had been any other reported things happening related?

No? I was done. Wow, I wanted like, I said, this is later.

Once I finally this therapist who was a combat vet was the one who got me on the right track and said because I couldn't even spit it out to him, and he said, look, here's what I want you to do. Write it all down, the full story from when you left your house. I don't care if it takes you two months.

To write this.

Write every detail, put everything down, include what you're not wanting to tell me.

And when I did that, it was like, okay.

It took me about a week of setting that thing aside before I could describe that scene on paper. And then after that I could talk about it, but well, tell my wife at least.

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But no, I was like, I don't want anything to do with this. I'm done.

I swore that day. I was like, I'm never going hunting again. I'm not even all set foot in a city park.

That's it. I'm not why that's runner around, But once again.

For some reason, I went back the weekend after by myself at night.

Yeah, so no, I don't I apologize. I didn't look into anything.

So the therapist then, I would guess read all what you wrote down. No, really, okay, he.

Said, when you're done, I want you to go. I want you to go burn it. Wow if you can where this happened. And I haven't made it back there yet.

So you still have that paper intact?

I do.

Yeah, is that something you think of? Where? Do you think you'll ever go back to that area and burn it? Or maybe not so much?

Yeah? I think I will, Plus I've had more time to think about it, and I don't know. I went the following year, spent two and a half weeks in the frank Kirk Wilderness. Didn't bother me one bit. I was up there by myself for days. My dad had to go back home to help my mom, and that was fine, no problems.

Yeah, I just might.

You mentioned that this really affected you afterwards. You started to have dreams as well.

You said, yeah, those night terrors I the worst though, which is fine, I dealt with that stuff before, leet prolysis and all that.

I've had that really bad for over a decade. But the worst.

Part was just being awaken. It's the middle of the day once again. This happened at one o'clock in the afternoon, and so it was broad daylight. I could just be all safe here in our home and just.

This just.

Wave of I don't know what would come over me and I would just start shaking and just involuntarily crying and just have to just do something or I yeah, I had no idea what was going on in my brain and tell it, you know, went south a little bit more. I just couldn't process it, and I obviously wasn't talking about it other than I could tell the rest of the story.

It sounded good.

It sounded almost like a cool hunting story where something weird happened. And I think that's what I was trying to do in my brain, is build up. If I tell a few people minus what I saw, because they'll think I'm crazy and.

I will have to acknowledge what happened. Let's just tell the rest of it.

I heard these crazy knocks, and who knows what happened, and yeah, it was fun, right, But in the meantime, it's just this ball of whatever just getting compressed tighter and tighter in me.

And yeah, it was just something else.

During the dreams. Were there any times when it felt like there was something trying to communicate you at all?

No, I would either.

I would catch a sleep prolysis moment of this just hulking black figure coming through the door. Or I would just wake up already sobbing and not know why, just feel scared, like a little kid, just scared, and I'd just get out of bed and leave, leave the bedroom. And I don't even remember most the dreams really, it was just that waking up and start care for no reason, just peer.

Panic already fight or flight out of a dead sleep.

And have you experienced other things, other strange things before this event, or was this the first time in your life where you've experienced something that was just out of the ordinary.

Low boy, you'd have to ask that question. I haven't told anybody this. I don't know if I should tell you.

But all right.

Before that happened, I totally forgot about this even just because it was like whatever is it?

Weird?

Had no correlate I think this the event of that day wiped it out. But the first or second night on that mountain, we're sleeping in our trucks and it's just pitch black and dark, and I hear this low, this sound that is so low pitched that it hurts

What is doing this?

So I was trying to mash my ears against my sleeping bag and it just kept going, and I started listening to it.

I'm like, this has a rhythm to it. What is going on here? And it was.

I would look at my watch and I could time the peaks and valleys. It was very almost in its repetition, mechanical, but it was so low that it just it really hurt my ears. At one point I even rolled the window down put my phone out with a voice recorder. So I'm like, I got to catch whatever this is. I brought it back in and turned it on. I turned it, I checked it. Then I couldn't hear anything because of that weird sound.

But later on.

I played it and no sound came out, but the peaks and valleys, the jumps, and just the timing of those reverberations showed on my phone on.

The voice recorder. And this kept happen.

This went on for over an hour and a half, and at one point this small plane, and this is the middle of the night, comes flying, comes over really low, and I was so tired and getting a little i don't.

Know, like worried. I'm like, this is really bizarre.

This sounds like it's coming from one exact direction, which was west of me, because I could plug my ear facing it and hear nothing. But then when I took it away and I faced that direction, I could just feel that kind of someone has base in their car and their blocks away. But this plane came over and I thought, oh, maybe that'll make it shut up. I was so tired and exhausted anyways, and sure enough, this plane comes over pretty darn low and the sound stops

And he said, what are you talking about?

And I said that like super deep, vibrating, weird bass sound that went on for a two plus, you know, over two hours.

You didn't feel or hear that. He's like hearing. He's not so good anymore. So Nope.

I went, Okay, that's weird, and then went about our day and never really thought much of it.

Again.

Did it affect you in any other parts beside your ears?

No?

Okay, that is really weird.

Yeah, And I was like, maybe it's a I don't know, some distant mining operation or something.

We're up in the woods.

It maybe it is something mechanical and just by the nature of how sound carries and chrisp high cold air, I don't know, but that was weird.

It's funny you asked that.

Because I mentioned that to my kid the other day, and of course he had all kinds of speculation and thoughts about it.

But yeah, there's all sorts of stuff. Is it? Could it be an infrasound thing? Hard to say. Did you ever experience any strange lights when you're up there?

No?

And did you hear any other sounds that just did not seem to fit the area that you were in?

No other than that running into.

A monster sized sasquatch. The rest of the hunting was pretty chill. Had a moose break cover right in front of me, almost run me over, and.

Yeah, there's lots of food up there. There's more. I saw more moose in that location, I have my whole life.

And that alone is a good piece of information too, because that's a huge food source. And if you're saying there's tons of it up there, there's another piece of evidence. Could Yeah, these creatures could definitely be sustained in that region due to the huge food source, besides the fact that you saw it with your two eyes, which is that's number one piece of evidence right there.

But yeah, there's lots of food, lots of protein up there. There's wolf ran into some wolfires, black and grizzly bear, a lot of white tail. I saw a few mealle's the moose. I just couldn't believe how much not only moose signed but having them just run across the roads that was lower down. We dropped off of that mountain after. Coincidentally, the day after the day after that happened, we primarily hunted low because well, a I was happy too. I

Do you still have that audio you recorded that night.

I don't think I do, other than it had those perfectly timed blips and no audible sound to it.

I was just like, what am I going to do with this? That was weird? I just wrote it all off as right. I don't know.

Did you record any audio or video during the time of the encounter or in the same time of day.

No.

I probably have some pictures random things, but no, usually this, I don't even carry my cell phone with me.

There's no reception up there.

So you didn't have a cell phone with you at the time of the encounter.

Oh, no, it was in my truck.

Yeah, okay, interesting, I'll.

Probably break it if I carry it with me in too. It's just yeah, I guess other pictures it's worthless up there.

Did you Did you have any other electronics with you?

Not on my person?

Hmm, that's interesting.

I did. I take that back?

My dad and I carry two way radios, but I probably had that turned all the way down.

I'm pretty sure I did.

If I if one of us suspects that there's an animal close and we need to go into kind of stalking mode where well I will shut them down.

Gotcha?

Yeah?

Makes sense. So back to a previous question, Let's say, before this hunting expedition in your life, were there any other strange things that you experienced besides all.

Of this, I've had some odd occurrences hunting that I even then, this is way before that happened, that I still thought it was weird.

Do you want me to describe that at all?

So sometimes it can be interesting. There can be connections that come up between the two. Yeah, if it's something you feel comfortable sharing.

Oh sure, nothing here normal.

I admit, up until this point complete skeptic in all this is a kid I would have loved if Sasquatch was real, But as I got to an adult, I'm like, like a lot of hunters are people that spend a lot of time in the outdoors.

I would have seen one by now at the very least.

Of course, then you go back into areas like Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, and you see how much untouched territory, and you could easily go No, there's lots of things that could live out here and never be seen by a human. The humans don't even go to some of these places that I've looked a glass from a ridge line. It's humans don't go over here, right, But I was in one of those areas in the frank Church. I'd been tracking a tailing a herd of elk since before daylight. I

Big for society would be right back after these messages.

They were still standing, but just dead skeletons, and there was a little bit of grass in there. But I followed the herds tracks in there and there's just no cover. So I'm like, if they're at the end, I can see them and they can see me, and I can't see them, so I'll just keep falling their sign and maybe catch up to them. I've been tailing them all day and I get there about to the middle of this bench and it's just it was eerily quiet, just no wind, no bugs, no birds. It's just dead silent,

But I.

Got about halfway in and that heard it just literally button hooked on me and went back the way we had come and dove off the ridge down into this just ravine of trees and awfulness. And I'm like, that's it for them. I'm not going after him down there, And so I stopped behind this down tree that I sat behind the root bolt so I could have some shade, and I'm just eating.

In this looking around.

I'm like, this is really cool, this is bizarre, this is really quiet. I haven't seen a I think you'd see a bird. Those trees are full of bugs.

And I just.

Got that prickly on the back of my neck feel and I'm like, okay, I can see halfway one way down this across this ridge, but what's behind me? Because my back is to this huge down tree. And I just grabbed my rifle and pivoted around, just expecting to see like a cat or something sneaking up on me.

And there was nothing, of course, but I just.

Got up, got my gear on and was like, I'm leaving this place, this is this doesn't feel right. That's that hasn't happened to me really any other time. I've had clothes encounters with bear, some little too close, and that's just what it is, bear or bear, And this was one of those few times I think something stuck in me and I can't see.

It, so I'm just gonna back away and call it good.

That is that is very interesting for sure.

Yeah that was a bad Yeah, that was a bad feeling. But never had anything like that again, So I don't know if that means anything at all. It was just it was a weird thing, and I thought about it later.

Would you ever want to see or experience what you experienced that day again?

No, nope. I don't think I would gain anything from it. I've seen it. I know they're real now.

I just I don't think it would serve anything.

I'd be fascinated to see what their anatomy is laid out on a slab.

Not that I'm saying we should go out and kill them. I'm just saying I been in the medical field my whole adult life.

It'd be fascinating to see how they're structured and other than being scared out of your mind, have some time to really look at them. But outside of that type of scenario, no, I don't want much to do with them.

Yeah, that makes sense, Dan, this has been a really interesting conversation. I'm glad that you reached out to me. Thank you for doing that.

Oh, thank you.

The good thing about this and sometimes it's not this, but sometimes encounters like this make it so the person never go in the woods again. And it sounds like you're at the point where you're okay with because going in the woods.

I am as much as I don't really want to have anything to do with them, and that's fine. They probably don't with me either, who is aware before because there are other things out there that can kill you and treat you like a snack. But I just, yeah, I if I hear strange knocking sounds in the woods, I'm not going to go towards them again. Like it going, well, what's this? This is pretty cool, let's figure out what this is. I'll probably leave that alone. Jeremiah, I apologize,

And not just part of my body.

That's when I came into the open and I had the rifle at low ready, so not just held you know, vertical with my body, but away. That's when those five rapid fire knocks came. And when I decided to ignore that, which in retrospect was ridiculous. There it was very clear something was not happy with me, and I kept advancing. Maybe that's when it's like, all right, enough is enough. This guy's got a gun. All right, fund's over. We

Absolutely, that's just one of those things.

How do you feel about people that it's a weekend. Let's go into the woods trying to find the Bigfoot and knock on trees and all that good stuff. Do you have any feeling towards people like that or advice or no?

I don't have any. I guess I just have no comment. That's fine.

If you want to do that, I you will.

I won't, right, Yeah, I won't do it.

But no, I I'm the last one to ask advice. I walked right towards wood knocks and tell this thing had to get mad enough to show me off that once. I guess I could have looked at it longer, but that's that whole instinct. Well, don't look up another preyer or in the eye and square off with it.

Otherwise that might work.

That works with a mountain lion or a black bear, they can be pretty easily intimidated, but not something like that. He was clearly the one trying to do the intimidating and it worked. So no, I just hope people are safe. It just seems like.

It.

I mean, my whole part of my whole problem with this whole thing is I don't know what its intentions were and what those knocks meant until the end, that was pretty clear you need to leave. So that would make me very nervous to go out and do that and not know.

What you're saying to them. Does that make sense?

I've heard other I've heard other people say that, but yeah, to each their own.

Just be safe, that's right.

I'm glad people are getting out in the woods's that's I hope for everybody.

Absolutely be careful.

I didn't want this. I didn't ask for it. I had no.

Thought in my brain that I would this would ever happen to me. Like I said, it just wasn't a thing to my brain. I guess that's why I could. I walked towards the Knoxes. I'm like, okay, it don't think it's a human outdoing this, and I don't know of any animals in North America that can do this. Let's go figure out what it is. But at no point was it like, oh, this might be a sasquatch.

I didn't.

I wasn't versed enough in that they do knocking sounds and other stuff like that until I started listening to more podcasts.

And hmm, Danny, did you have any questions for me that that didn't come up during recording.

You actually asked me some of the questions I would have asked, so no, I really appreciate that.

Awesome. If there's anything that if you ever need help with this in the future, feel free to reach out. Definitely. That's the main reason that I do stuff like this, try to help people work through stuff. But yeah, Dan, thank you so much for taking some time to share what you experienced up there in northern Idaho.

Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you for your time here.

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