Ep:185 Bigfoot Redacted

could give him more information regarding the monkey situation. One of the news reports that happened, this woman was talking about how she had seen these things. They were taller than her garbage can or as tall as her garbage can, and had really long swinging arms. She didn't describe seeing a tailor or anything like that.

Act to obtain records of possible Bigfoot reports. And Eric, I think you've kind of made that your bread and butter, haven't you.

on a federal or a state level. So my background is in public information, so I knew how to do a four yer request from doing other foyas, and I started submitting some foyas for different things I had heard about pertaining to the subject of Bigfoot or any type of unidentified bipedal creatures, any weird type of police reports,

anything like that news that I could hear about. And to my shock, I actually got quite a few responses from these different requests from all over the country, and the majority of those are going to be found in

the book that I just released. It's called Bigfoot The Redacted Truth, and it really goes into just my hunt over the last three three and a half years doing these full year quests and just the information in here is just kind of wild that nobody's really seen this stuff before on a federal and again on a state level.

You just kind of you hear about different stories in anecdotal evidence, and that's all great and stuff, but I kind of wanted to lead into if there was any far data that we could actually measure, and I think I got lucky with doing these fo yeas because yeah, I'm gonna go over some of this stuff and it's kind of speaks for itself, and if we want to go into what we could even say there might be some type of a cover up angle here. I'm not gonna go out and full full blown says it's a

cover up, it's an intended cover up. But just going over the data, some of this stuff is just weird. A lot of things missing cases that were never finished, animals that remain unaccounted for. That with you know, our technology nowadays, with drones, dogs, we should be finding whatever these things are that the people are reporting. So, yeah, I'd like to go over some of that with you if you're down for that.

been done. But like you're saying, I've been around for a pretty decent amount of time now and I was fortunate enough to hook up with some people that have been around a lot longer than me, and before you, I don't recall anybody ever really trying to approach it from this angle and find the paper trail, because we always hear stories about nine to one one calls, and we've heard the recordings and stuff, and we've heard about people,

you know, making different reports, but you've actually had some pretty decent luck with obtaining actual records and copies of things where people did report this stuff and it did get put on record to some extent, and there was some investigations going on. So what's the story, man? Where is all this stuff going? Because, like you're saying, these investigations oftentimes seem to be open ended, or they just drop the case, or what do you think happened?

give this step or whatever. It's odd. I mean, and you mentioned before, not really that many people have been doing this, and that's kind of a shame because we've lost a lot of information that we could have received from certain incidents if we were able to get it, you know, in on time or you know, within the timeframe that some of this stuff takes place, because unfortunately, I've learned that a lot of these nine to one one calls these agencies stayed in federal they'll only hold

these calls for like thirty sixty ninety days, so after that, there you're rased and it's gone from the record. Nobody ever hears from it. A lot of times there's not even a transcript for these calls, which is a shame. But yeah, I mean, I'll just go over probably the one that I think is one of the more interesting ones.

I think we've kind of touched base on it the last time I was here, But to me, it's just super interesting because I believe it's the only ever bigfoot sighting to ever take place documented in a National park, and it actually took place in Dino National Park in Colorado, and this was in twenty twenty really strength circumstances, and I had the Foyer request. It's in the book, and I'm just going to read you a portion of this.

It comes from the Department of Interior, that's the parent department of the National Park Service, And I mean everything was just pretty much redacted. And here the officer's name is redacted, the report author is redacted. We should have that information. We should have his badge number or the badge number is not even redacted. It's just not a list. So all that stuff just kind of seems really shady off the bat. And then we have in glaring letters

at the very top. I've never seen this another four year request before. It says, please note as astris astris, this incident contains information that has not been approved by a supervisor. So right there, you're telling me, you know what's going on here. Something seems off, And yeah, I have the incident number here, we know it took place. I'll just read you the summer report. It basically says that mickfoot hunter's flocking to Yampa Bench Road report bone

piles near road and bigfoot siding near Cleopatra's couch. Bone piles may be related to poaching, possible od camping along bench road, Unprepared visitors visiting area in the winter may result in increased risk of search and rescue. And it basically just says Cleopatrick's couch the area. So there we have it. This is the only I believe incident report from the National Park Service that contains the word big foot. I've never seen any other one produced, and we should

have so much more information here. Unfortunately, all we have is that incident summary report, which that makes no sense. We should have at least three or four pages here. Every other FOI I've received, you have no very little reactions, definitely not from the officer or the report author. So this is just a puzzle in itself. Why did all this stuff happen? Why was there no further, you know, investigation taking place? And I think I figured out what

it was. That's because they had sent me after I got the four your request, I did like a an exemption for it, like a filed an appeal. And what I got back was even weirder from from the original, from the original investigation report. And I'll just read you

what they kind of told me. They were basically saying that the only reason there is an incident summary report not a full record was because this is verbatim here, the ranger who completed the case report was medically incapacitated at the time and did not have the ability to conduct a thorough report and follow up.

this before. Some people have speculated that could the ranger himself been the one to make the report and was medically incapacitated after seeing whatever this thing was. Yeah, it's really interesting when you think about it. But again, we should have a lot more information about this than we do, and is that by design. It kind of makes you wonder, you know, are we is this a you know, an effort that's being done too, I don't know, make people

feel safe out there. It's just weird. It's really weird.

But there is a record of at least something happening. And I've been trying to find the alleged big foot hunters that were out there, you know, for a couple of years now, no luck. So if anybody knows about people hunting out there in twenty twenty December of twenty twenty an Dino National Park, please reach out to me. Yeah, I think there's a story there.

to take it seriously or something like that. And even some of the state stuff, the federal will get it, will get a kind of get their nose into it when it's federal it's not even entering their business, or or a larger part of the state will get interested in it if it's like a certain county or whatever. And I really noticed that when I was doing the I did a four year request on an incident that

took place in of all places Cincinnati. It was a really weird incident that took place, and it was in twenty twenty one, and there are there are a few news reports articles about a group of monkeys had been seen in Cincinnati in twenty twenty one. There's video of it. There's at least one video that you can see on social media side YouTube, and you see like three or four dark figures that they're saying are monkeys in a tree,

and they're pretty good size, they're hefty. And I had heard about this and when I seen it, I obviously I wonder if anybody did the foya. I don't think they did, so I did the foya and I got back two. This is weird because it's two incident reports, but they're like at least six calls, nine to one one calls on each incident report, so that by itself

is weird. Each call should have their own incident number, incident, you know, summary, all that stuff, and it looks like they just kind of bulked everything into two reports, which is just kind of weird off the bat. But people were seeing these these multiple monkeys in the area, and it got to the point where the Department of Agriculture

I'll read you this report here. It's actually it's the book, and it's a detailed the incident report, detailed incident report, and it basically says that to ac from Mike King from the Department of Agriculture, requesting call from someone that could give him more information regarding the monkey situation. So again, there were multiple monkeys kind of roaming around in Cincinnati. People were seeing them taking video. In one of the news reports that happened, this woman was talking about how

she had seen these things. They were taller than her garbage can or as tall as her garbage can, and had really long swinging arms. She didn't describe seeing a tailor or anything like that. And again, the original guy who called his name was Lucky Griffin. I have his reports in the book and he basically says that he sees these things walking down the road as he's on the phone or whatever. I would have loved to have had those nine one one phone calls as they're describing

what they're seeing. But I reached out to them, and this is one of those agencies that they only hold the calls for like sixty days and then they erased them. So we should have like nine to one one calls from this thing. At least at least eight, if not more, about people reporting these apes just kind of roaming the area. And I'll read you a little bit more of this report here because it just kind of gets weirder and you'll see where the kind of cover up angle goes.

This happened. I read you that first part and this was a couple hours later. It's spoke with resident West eighth and Harrison reported last night video scene at least four or more last seen through the woods at the ed and Cemetery. No sign of camera from resident approximately unknown who they belong to. WLWT has been advised to contact PIO. So again these are this is a different person making a call pretty much saying that hey, we're seeing the monkeys in this area. And then shortly after

that we have someone else calling different name. Three hours later they're basically saying heard monkeys around the area, seeing nothing. Then it says that they linked it right here in the call notes it says that they linked it. This one is really interesting. This is another person and it says cap they called in. The says comp was watching the news and was told to call if they had any info. Comp advised her dog was barking at a screaming creature in the tree on Easter and it was

a monkey. Then it ran to the top of a swaying tree. Body of the monkey was Koala their size monkey's last seen Easter Sunday and call if needed, and wanted to confirm that the original called are not lying, so right there, and that's just a crazy call right there. This isn't even the same day. This person is saying, hey, we had we saw these monkeys like days before this happened. So koalaverir sized monkey doesn't sound like a copouch and

monkey to me. And if you if you do see that video, they look really bulky and has the almost like chimpanzee size that other woman describing as tall as a garbage can arms swing you get, you get that eight picture more than a monkey picture. Yeah, So people were out here saying things. I mean, this thing was screaming at her dog, this freathing creature in the trees. Literally what this report says her dog was barking at him, ran to the top of a swinging tree. So really

weird stuff coming out of Cincinnati. Multiple people seeing whatever these things were, and then here's another call that happened a few hours later. About four hours later, redactave device. She could hear the monkeys up in the trees at her location, sounds only recorded, no visual. Now, we should have had those sound recordings in the four yer request that I did, right, but that wasn't included. I don't

know why, but it wasn't. We should have those. Someone else calls can hear some kind of animal sounds from the woods, no visual, and then okay, and then this is where it gets interesting. So they go to the location, this last location where they can hear the you know, recorded the audio and no visual, and it says no monkeys, just owls. And then about a minute later it says just located owls in the woods and then says CPD has closed their incident. About an hour later, another incident

pops up. Shasta police stated he heard monkeys in his backyard, but they're no longer there. So they try to cover this up real quick, saying it was just owls in the woods. Yea, even though people had video, even though multiple people across the city were seeing this, they just said owls. And then an hour later again another monkey report. Just weird so I have no explanation for that. I don't know if you do.

why they I've never seen that done before. And then again, we have the Department of agriculture wanting to know what the heck's going on over there. Yeah, so that's like at a state level, he's wanting to know. You know, he's not an accounty or anything like that, but it kind of shows you that everybody was really taking this seriously.

And they never found anything. They found nothing with all the drones, they had, dogs that they had a belief, a team from the Cincinnati Zoo out with tranquilizers they had again I said, drones, people on foot. They never found anything. There's no explanation to where these monkeys came from, what they were, where they went, where they went, Yeah, exactly, we have no information about that. It's just the close report,

you know, incidents, status clothes. I'm sitting at the top, really weird stuff, no explanation for it.

this one's really weird. I'll read you the original incident report. That was the very first thing anybody the public knew about it or whatever. The after everything came out, the sheriff had to come I'm not saying they had to come out making like a public service announcement saying, hey, if you see a champ in the area, don't touch it, don't approach it, call us like this happened. It was I think it was on there, even on their Facebook page and stuff like that. I'll read you. I'll read

you this police report here. So this was on nine Okay, you know what I should have actually let me see no, yeah, okay, this is the right one. Yeah. So this was actually on September tenth, twenty nineteen, everything started, and it basically says, here possible monkey sighting, game, more and advice. He will speak he will be speaking with Aco about the issue, and then it says per eleven eleven, send eleven eleven. Aco contact gives the name of the person, and then

it says we'll need drone. Several hours later, about seven hours later, it says assist at Aco VA drone and attempting to locate a monkey. But the search was unsuccessful. Check the area of via drone unable to locate monkey. So about six hours into this investigation, they've got drones in the air looking for this monkey that's been roaming around Santa Fe, Texas, and they weren't able to find it. They weren't able to find it at that time. And it's it's weird again because they had to go make

a public statement. The news cupboads and this one was a little bit more extensive than what was going on in Ohio. There was actually a lot of people reporting on this. One of the more interesting ones was there was a woman all location kind of reporting about it, and they come back from a commercial break and there's like a truck driving right past her and she goes, they just told us they spotted the monkey down the street or the ape down the street, so we're gonna

go to that location. So this was happening in real time. People were seeing this thing similar to the Cincinnati one, all over the area, but we didn't get any video of this one like we did with the Cincinnati one. Witnesses did come forward. There was this one witness I think probably got the best look about it, so he was the only one that spoke to the public about it, and she said that she had it was the middle of the night. She had seen this thing digging through

her garbage cans. She made a report. I have her report, it's in the book. And it was standing tall, lifting the garbage can, digging through it. She closed the blinds, called the police and they came out and didn't find anything. But then other people were reporting it, mainly the officials

government officials in the area kind of downplaying it. They were making it sound like it was a smaller monkey, capuchin monkey, but all the reports I have make it seem like it was a lot bigger than a capuchin monkey or just some random tiny monkey up there. And I'll read you, I'll read you another instance of what I'm kind of saying here. Everything continued on for about two days and a couple hours later. This is the

same day that this happened. This was happening at nine pm at night, and again it says here's here's cowling thinks it maybe eight on the loose. Now a small capuchin monkey, I don't think it howls like that. The way they're describing it, it sounds like something bigger. And also the nature of this police call was a suspicious person, so that doesn't sound like a little monkey for an

animal control issue. They're talking about something howling and a powling, and it really kind of just goes even more from there. The next report we get is right before midnight, eleven pm. This is another report here, and it says color advises he hears primate possible visual. So this person actually got

a visible a visual. I would have loved to hear that nine to one on one phone call as they're saying, hey, I'm looking at it, or I saw it, it's this tall, then we would know for sure it's this size, it's this this. I'm sure they were describing it. I don't know why we don't get any type of transcript or any other information about these calls. We have nothing. All we have is just a couple of little words acknowledging their call was made, which is just to me, it's

just terrible. But imagine if they were describing this thing in detail, what it looked like, the size of it. Just really interesting stuff. And again I did the four year request. I got about four individual police reports from League City and Santa Fe City Police Department. Those are like the two neighboring counties. That was really interesting. And the other thing was that the news was reporting this

was an aggressive ape. I have never found any type of information in any of the reports about mentioning aggressive it did this. I found nothing about that. What I did do a four year quest for the email server at that location for this time, and I got something really interesting. To me. This is kind of like I don't want to say smoking gun, but man, it's just so crazy. This was an email. It was never meant

to see the public. It was from the county clerk there, sent out to an outside source and the subject is OMG, Oh my god, and it says basically, OMG, there is a loose monkey out in Santa Fe, Texas. It is between three to four feet tall and attacking people. What the heck? It's been missing it out and about since Friday. So that's just crazy to me that internally they're kind of saying at the at the different sheriff's offices and

government agencies, they're saying, this thing attacks somebody. It's it's a wild ape. They never that never transpires in the reports, but I believe it's factual because they're a county clerk is stating.

It was like, one guy reached out to me saying that he believed it was like a mother and a young one. Because people were reporting different size variations. Some people were saying small, some people were saying big. And then another guy reached out to me saying, oh, that was an escape chimp from like a chicken farm. And I was like, you know, okay, I looked into that

that I couldn't really find anything to substantiate that. One of the more interesting ones that I received was from this man who had reached out to me and that he had the story was really kind of fascinating. He told me that his son and his son's friend were out dove hunting in Santa Fe and that his son had seen this what he thought was like a monkey, an ape, and a tree, and that I can't remember if he said they shot first or this thing attacked first, but he said they shot at it and it jumped

out of a tree and scratched this kid's face. And that is where the attacking people portion of this whole thing comes from. And that's just kind of Yeah, that's just kind of weird and interesting. I can't find anything to really substantiate that. But we know something happened to make this thing aggressive or like attacking people. We know that. So that's just kind of odd in itself that we have unidentified at least attacked at least one person out there.

To me, that's just insane. Yeah, and we have no explanation for it.

and then they find them. They'll have a drone, a lot of a team out there and they'll spot it and they'll find it. They never did that with this, They never had any type of explanation. Again, like the Cincinnati thing, we don't have an identification, we don't have you know, where these things came from. We've got we've

got nothing. And that's kind of concerning to me. Honestly, if they're reporting an aggressive chimp out there or an aggressive ape I should say, out there attacking people that was never found, Like that's that's a little concerning to me.

we don't know anything. We just know people were seeing some type of ape creature creatures possibly in these areas, which is it's just man and people say, you know about bigfoot sighting through whatever, there's a you know, people say, how come they don't call the cops or anything like that. Well, I mean maybe this is one of those cases where they just kind of turn it into monkey stuff. And you'll see that that theme kind of continues through through

my investigation. A lot of times they'll just say unidentified monkey. Very there's few and far between where they do say bigfoot, but I do have reports where they do say big foot.

well as they should have. I'll just say that. And this one's in. It's so weird. It's so weird because that last one that I talked about in Santa Fe, Texas, it happened September tenth of twenty twelve. Yeah, I was in twenty twenty one, I'm sorry, twenty nineteen. September tenth of twenty nineteen. This incident had took place in twenty twenty three in Harrison County, happened on the same day. So to me, that's just kind of wild. Harrison County

on the Santa Fe they're very close. They're not that far, not that far apart, kind of swamp lands both areas. Harrison County is a little bit to the north. But I'll just read you this incident report here. This one I received through a Freedom of Information Act request, and it's the whole call shoot here. I have the nine to one one phone call. This is one of those rare instances where I was able to hop on it as it was happening, so I submitted my FOY. I

have the ninety one one phone call. I have it on my channel. I kind of took it down because I'm going to be using it in my next documentary. I'll be going out to this area in the next couple of weeks, hopefully talk to the witness, go out to this area, because it's the whole thing is just kind of fascinating to me. And I'll just I have the I have the image that was taken that's mentioned here.

I'll just talk about it real quick. It says caller reports that he may have spotted something like Bigfoot on his game cameras near the Samuel Murphy Estates off of the Lovely Road. RP was transferred to public service and then it's a very attom. It says sighting of bigfoot

on game camera. So this gentleman believes he has the photo of a bigfoot on his game camera, and he reported it to the local authorities, and now the Harrison County Sheriff's office ended up transferring that call to the local Fish and Wildlife, I believe, so they got involved. The ranger with the Fish and Wildlife got involved. That's actually where I got the image from. I four you them and I got the image from them. But the

gentleman called because he was concerned. He was branching out there. He's got a hayfield out there, and this thing. You can see it the images in the book. It's standing very tall in the middle of one of his fields. The proportions are just all really weird, and it's just an odd looking photo. I have no idea you know, what it is. But he was concerned enough to call and say, I think this might be bigfoot. And we had again, you had talked about it, saying that that

kind of sounds crazy making that call. But I'll give this man his props for that. He actually made it and says, I think this is a big foot. And unfortunately they were professional while he was on the phone, but as soon as they hung up and called the game warden in the area, the dispatchers were kind of like laughing, like, hey, he said this seem a big foot.

You can hear laughing in the background or whatever. The game warn hears it, and he takes it seriously, and so he's like, I'll go ahead out there, and so they call him back to get his information, the witnesses information, and they say, we're dispatching the sheriff out there. The sheriff is out there for less than four minutes before he closes the incident. That's what it says in the report. He's out there for four minutes, closes the incident. Really weird.

I don't know why he did that. But again, I spoke to the witness and he's kind of back and forth. He wants to give me an interview, but he was really upset at the way this was this was handled. So hopefully he's still willing to give me that interview. He's definitely said he'd take me to that area, so I'll get at least that hopefully. But again, really odd and strange stuff here. Just looking at the photo, the photo is just really really strange looking, and I've got

no explanation for that. Again, I think there's more of these phone calls out there than we will then, you know, we kind of are led to believe. I think there's more not necessarily saying bigfoot, but maybe they are saying, you know, hairy creature, monkey or ape or something like that. And this is really the stuff that I'm looking for. To me, this is a complete investigation. I guess you want to call it. I heard about it. I made the four year request. I have my original four year request.

I have their email they sent me, I have the original call sheet. I've got the nine to one one phone call. I've got pretty much everything. I've spoken to the witness. So this one, I feel like we've got a little bit of closure on this one. Not everything, because we don't know what's in that photo obviously, but this one, it feels this one feels a little bit better because again we have we have everything here. It's

still kind of unsolved, but there's more information here. And the only reason that is is because I was able to jump on it so fast. Again, if it would have been thirty to sixty days and no phone call, we wouldn't have been able to idea the witness any of that stuff. I'd be lucky to get the image, honestly, I think. I think as the time goes by, that even gets a little bit harder, and some agencies want to charge money for that because it costs a dig and look for that stuff. So I got really lucky

with all of this. And the image is weird. Again, the image is really weird. I kind of do a little bit of an analysis in the book, just the proportions. It's right next to a deer feeder, a little behind a deer feeder, so you can kind of gauge a little bit of size, and it is. It does look fairly big, so it's interesting.

same location, that would be really cool. I don't think anybody's ever done anything like that.

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And always try to convince, you know, the witness that they're willing to give their name, because I think that just kind of gives it gives power to the to the witnesses, to the people who've seen this thing, you know, maybe we start some type of you know, witness awareness group or something like that where they can kind of

get together. I think that'd be interesting. Yeah, but yeah, I'll continue on because again, there hasn't been many documents in actually have bigfoot in anywhere in the documentation, but this one a couple others that it basically says it out loud, and this next one here is really it's really weird because it kind of borders on bigfoot attack. I know the that other one kind of does too, the one that happened in Santa Fe with the aggressive monkey,

but this one gives us a little bit more details. Again, unfortunately, we should have the ninety one one call for this, but we don't. Don't even have transcript for it. This happened and we'll try to say at Washington County by Ann Arbor, Michigan. And this again, oddly enough, this was in September. These last three things we talked about, all of been in September September twenty sixth, twenty twenty two, at midnight, twelve thirty one am. Location is redacted, dispatch

office is redacted. And I'll just read you basically what it says in the CFS and air to hear. Paul comes in twelve three two am call her out in the wilderness in a cheap at a tree farm. Just heard someone yell outside. Caller thinks it's bigfoot again. Caller says he wants to go to the hospital to get out of the tree farm. HbA to stage wandersome back to the line. Cooper can move the sidebar to let open the fence. Was calling for ETA and secure HbA.

So basically they had to go and assist this person out of this area at midnight because of some injury. And he mentions that he thinks he hears bigfoot again. Yeah, so I'm like, what the heck's going on here? He hears bigfoot again? Where's the first time he heard bigfoot? It's crazy, Like we I have no explanations for that. Unless he called before saying hey, I'm hearing bigfoot out here, and then he calls again saying I still hear bigfoot out here again. We had no information and this is

kind of is it by design? We don't know. Since he was injured, HVA, I believe he gets like, you know, medically escorted out of there. This is gonna again fall under that hip hop thing. Unfortunately. Yeah, so once it does that, we're not going to get any information. Was this guy attacked by a bigfoot? It's interesting.

foury request. If he called multiple times, I should have that. It's nowhere to be found.

I have no explanation for that. It doesn't say he you know, rolled his car, I was in a car accident. Doesn't say he got shot or something. It just says he wants to go to the hospital because he hears a bigfoot. Why would you want to go to the hospital because you hear a big floot? Makes no sense to me?

trying to go for. I'm trying to put this stuff out there and have people reach out to me with saying, oh, I reported that, you know, or I also something you know, I saw something called the cops whatever, we can look for that and have more have a database of these of these actual nine one one phone calls mentioning Bigfoot, these nine one reports mentioning Bigfoot. I don't know, it's just weird, weird stuff.

and I didn't want to do that. So what happened I was I was doing some four year requests for counting up in Washington, and I asked them to give me all their emails they had on their email server from a certain date to a certain date, and it was a couple thousand and so I started digging through those and I found some interesting stuff. And what really kind of just caught in my eye was the subject line of one of those emails that basically said unidentified bone.

And as I open it up, I look and I start reading the trance the email chain that's going on, and it's about a woman who's emailing the local museum in the area asking for some clarification. She had just inherited a bone collection from a biologist she knew, and so she's looking over this bone collection with a friend and they see this bone and they're like, what the

heck is this? They have no explanation for it. And I believe they were told by the biologist while that person was still alive, that this bone could potentially be a baby bigfootbone that is mentioned in the email chain. They mentioned is this a baby big footbone to the museum when they email it. So they email the museum. The museum emails them back saying, Hey, that's really interesting.

We kind of want to get the shareffs involved with this, Sheriff's office involved because if that's a human bone, we need to take to look at it. So the email chain starts with the sheriff's office saying, Hey, we need you to bring that bone in so we can test it, and all this other stuff and communication basically dies on that point. The person doesn't seem to respond, and even in the email chain, they're saying, Hey, this person's not responding. This is getting weird. We need to go out and

test this bone or whatever. And that's kind of where we're at. I've there was a picture of the bone. I should have said that there's a picture of the bone. It's the very bottom of an email chain, and it is a mandible. It's a bottom jawbone. It looks very thick. There's a few teeth. The teeth, from what I understand, they're different in number from what's usual. But that could be because I've someone has told me that that could be like a native a Native American thing or something

like that. But the teeth, look, there's not as many as there should be from what it looks like. And so I've had one person look at this. I don't want to mention that name, but credible person works with bones a lot, and he thinks it's very unique. He's never seen anything like it. And he said that, yeah, it could be what he thinks of baby Bigfoot. And I was kind of obviously I wanted some more answers. Unfortunately, all we have is one photo of that bone. So

I reached out to my friend Doug Hicheck. He was the producer of Monster Quest and he's a pretty influential name in the community, I should say, great guy, nice guy, and so I asked him if he could take a look at it. And he has sent that bone to I believe, two different people to take a look at it. So we're waiting on what they're gonna say about it. We are waiting on that. But it's interesting. It is

an interesting looking bone. I'll just say that. Yeah. And you hear about these stories about people with personal collections and being locked away and stuff like that, and that's actually what happened in this case. This guy was a biologist. He knew what he was. He knew or didn't know when he was looking at either way, it kind of stumped him. So he's orded that bone for about thirty years. The email chain was from two thousand and nine. So

I'm trying to get a little bit more information. Everything's kind of coming up on a dead end so far, but hopefully Doug will come back with some information. Even if it's a I really don't want to believe it's a person, because if it is a person, then it's a child and I don't want to, you know, I don't want to think about what they went through unfortunately out there. But it'll be interesting to see what does come out of this because the bone does look weird,

it's thicker. The people have talked to so that Scott you know, doesn't have as many teams. That should so interesting stuff, I think. Yeah, I'll definitely try to make it public when we hear about what it is. Obviously.

And then also in that area, there was the infamous i should say Kasachi National Forest incident that took place in twenty twenty four where a group of kids had to be evacuated from Kassaschi National Forest because of a bipedal creature with like glowing eyes that was growling at them. And I have the ninety one to one phone call. We're going to be going to that area. I have the actual coordinates of that area. So I'm hoping to go back and finding like an abandoned campsite out there.

How crazy would that be just to find a completely abandoned campsite where these kids were because they left in a hurry. The ranger went out there, took him several hours to get out there evacuated these kids. The only four YA information I got was from the Natatotia sheriff's office, which is the neighboring county, I guess from the Kassaschi National Forest. That's basically a national forest. It falls under

the National Park you know, bureau or whatever. They should have had a report about this incident, especially since multiple kids were being evacuated. They had no information on it, absolutely none, which to me is kind of concerning that these kids had to be evacuated and the federal government is saying, yeah, we don't know anything about that.

We all had a three way meeting and I basically told him what I was looking for, and they thought it was really interesting, and so told him about that. A couple of months later, well a month or so later, they sent me back some information, and I think this is probably one of the more interesting pieces they sent me. It's the reason there is a no taking of stonecake clause. And I'll just read you the clag real quick. It's says specific hunt regulations hogs, no size or bag limit

for POGs, take them all. Take the hogs during any hunt season except spring and waterfowl in designated archery areas only ce map only bows and crossbows allowed. Coyote may be taken during archery, muzzle loader, general gun and family hunt seasons. At the bottom, it says there is no taking of swamp or skunk apes. So that was a real, absolutely real document that or a document that was implemented, and I have the reason why that was split up here I have. This is the letter I'm going to

read you guys. This was taken by the Refuge manager of one of the areas here. This was the reason I was implemented. It's a subject bigfoot or sasquatch in R two and R four those are thettle regions, and this is what he wrote. While I do not have an easily findable administrative record of this phone call, I may have a handwritten note in my yearly notebooks. In or around twenty eighteen, I received a phone call from

this tell me who had a YouTube channel. In his phone call, the gentleman thanked the Refuge for stating in our annual hunt brochures that there's no taking of skunk or swamp apes during our hunt seasons. I was inclined to include this no take clause in the annual hunt brochure due to an undocumented in person conversation I had with a hunter who advocated me not to allow this and to clearly state it in our hunt brochure. This

I did. The gentleman who had the YouTube channel then phoned me as he hunts in the Lower Swanee, NWR. He spoke with me for close to one hour and exhorted me to look at his channel and to see the lengthy interviews with Dixie and Lee County refuge hunters who witnessed the swamp or skunky that is what they refer to in this part of the United States. So that is the reason that was implemented. This person, this manager of the refuge, had a conversation with a hunter

out there. I wonder what this hunter might have shown him, would have told him to convince this person to include that in there brochure. That's just wild to me.

where I don't know. Everybody always talks about hearing that bigfoot are more aggressive in Oklahoma and Texas, but right it sounds like to me that there's some pretty aggressive stuff with the SKUNKCP going on.

them were completely dry. The bigfoot track was most dry, but the tolls were still wet, probably because we use the remixed plaster on those and the plaster we mix in the field on the rest of the foot. I'm going to give them all another two days to dry before I go back, before I go back out to get them, and it says if they're still not dry Wednesday, I'll make some new ones on the tracks I can find out there with the correct plaster or Paris procedures.

So right there, that's an employee of a park in Florida saying, Hey, I'm gonna be you know, casting those big foot tracks again for you, and if if those don't work, I'll go I'll go out to where there's more and i'll cast those. You're not saying like I'll fake some more or anything like that. Yeah, he's saying, I'll go to the area where we're seeing them and I'll get some more. To me, that's just crazy. This was never meant to see the light of day by.

me one report, and it's freaking unbelievable. I can only imagine what the rest of these reports look like. And they sent me a folder that was the very this is line somewhere in an archive somewhere in the Bureau of Indian Affairs. The folder literally says incident report or incident report number two three one eight six, twenty five seventy eight. So this took place in nineteen seventy eight, and it says redacted residents, animal or bigfoot. That's what

it says in the file folder. And I'll just read you what kind of kicked off everything. There's a multipage investigation that went on. We've got multiple agencies out there taking a look in what hurted everything was? It says it right here. June twenty fifth, nineteen seventy eight, on a Sunday, at around eight forty nine pm, this woman calls and it says narrative of information received redacted. Called and requested an officer to redact it. She advised she'd

seen an animal or bigfoot by her residence. Needs someone to check it out. And then it says see investigation report. So this woman basically called the authorities because she believed she had an encounter with a bigfoot. And I'm going to read you with a special agent in charge. The Federal Bureau agent wrote about this is that there's a handwritten thing from the witness and everything. It's a really

cool it's a really cool thing. It says subject animal are bigfoot seen by residents and it's to the agency. Special officer Officer adacted. I checked the area where the animal was seen. I had officer redacted and conservation officer big redaction with me. Officer adacted myself walk up to where this animal was seen. The conservation officers drove up to the green water tank located above Galtz Euro Flats After checking the area, the only thing found which cracks

belonging to a bear. Officer Adapted said he would put a bear trap in that area. Officer Adapted also advised that due to the dry weather, it is causing the animals to come down from the mountain looking for water and food. The persons who saw the animal were redacted. Both persons said that the animal they saw was standing up and his hands were in the air. Both subjects

were frightened. They then began telling me. They then began telling me that they had heard that bigfoot was seen in Headsprings and what they saw they were sure was a bigfoot. I advised them we would go up and check the area. So there you have it. I think that's crazy. You've got these native people on the Mescalero Apache Reservation in New Mexico encountering I believe a bigfoot and they know what a bear looks like.

We have no photos of these alleged bear tracks. I think they were just.

been reported more than once. They're talking about another siding that took place in Head Springs, which is like a neighboring area. So I think they have a lot more information than what they've released to me, And it's a shame. I don't think we're ever going to get that, but at least we got this disreport here, and I think it's really kind of like a gold standard. It's just it's incredible. It's from the Bureau of Indian Affairs. You're

never going to get anything from an Indian reservation. Those communities, they don't they're not you know, they don't have to release anything, right, So yeah, this is just kind of a really lucky to get that report.

of times I have gotten that. But a lot of this stuff it should be out for the general republic. But again, they'll use these kind of blanket exemptions to get away with not giving you everything. Like the same thing with the Florida thing. Florida was like, we have X amount of documents, but we can only give you X amount of documents just for you know, those exemptions. Really and again they're just kind of blanket exemptions that you can appeal. That's a thing you can't appeal. But

I've never had really any luck and appeal. I think I did one. It was like a first state one, and that one I got lucky that they gained the

information from that one. But they're pretty much saying like, oh, let's it's you know, let them appeal and then that'll give us like a year or two too kind of get their things in order to where they'll give you more of a definition of why it was exempt or whatever on their time, on their time exactly, they'll deny it right away and they'll be like, oh, if he follows an appeal, and it'll be like a year and

we can we can get everything we need to. Basically says it's exactly because of this reason on their time.

day it happened, or the next day it happens. So I mean we've lost it. Yeah. Again, We've just lost so much. We've lost more than we've gained. Unfortunately, that's the truth.

So it's not gonna be perfect, but you know, hopefully i'll be able to with I still have a lot of foyers that are out right now, so we didn't get information back. So this goes well that I might try to write another one, maybe with that information about the bone that we get from Doug. I still have a lot of stuff that's a lot of irons in the fire that I'm waiting to get back.

have all the documentation for it, really wild stuff. So maybe, yeah, I might. I might do something to where it's just encompasses all these just weird reports that aren't necessarily Bigfoot related, but I would consider it encrypted related for sure.