Ep:125 West Texas Giant

the daylights out of me. I went from staring at my at my radio to looking up at this thing that's lit up my my bright headlights and it's right there, not fifteen feet off the road, and I watched it as it went by. It scared the daylights out of me. And I went from being kind of sleeping too wide freaking awake. Right there.

how that goes. Yeah, And in Central Texas where I'm from, it get used to get really cold before dawn, especially right at the first dear season, so it's freezing and everything. And Dad finally agreed, Yeah, come on, we'll go along. So where we were was West Winterstate thirty five. My grandfather had a ranch out there, and I went with Dad and we got there around three am, and I was all excited. The stars were real bright, it was clear, so you knew it was going to be really cold,

but I was with Dad, That's all that mattered. And went to my grandfather's ranch we met with my cousins and my uncle who ran the place, and they took us in this old pickup. You know, we always have to have that one old ranch truck. We went way, We went way out in the back of this place. And this is a little south of the town called Salado and north of a town called Georgetown, and we're probably ten twelve miles west of inter State thirty five.

Very wooded oak country, the Salado Ranch, No, not the slater for the slat Oak Creek actually runs through that property. And Dad and I were signed to a tree stand, which is like a big treehouse went up in this big oak tree there. So we were sitting there and I was all excited, and Dad and I were sitting in their tongue and it was cold. It was really cold, and I'm not good in the cold. I never had either twenties. It was not for me. And you know

that's pretty cold for us. You guys in Oklahoma get it even a little colder. Well, we're sitting there and I'm looking at the stars, and I was around five am. I clearly heard a woman screaming and this went on and on, and I looked at my Dad. I said Dad, what's that? What's that thing? What is that? Because what I'd forgotten Dad was a combat vet from World War Two. His hearing was shot. He had more than fifty percent

of it gone. And I'm listening to that and it's creeping me out, and I'm like, well, I've heard foxes squealed by that point, but I'd never heard this. This was clearly a woman screaming, and she was less than one hundred yards away, and you know, when it's cold, sound carries really well. She may have been a little it may have been a little bit more, but this was going on and on more miles from anywhere. The Salona ranch is butts up to this property, and that's

ten thousand plus acres. There's nothing out there anyhow, so what is that? Oh, that's strange. Well, not realizing, not having been out that much, it was dead that morning. Nobody got a deer except one of my cousins. There was one little buck that got out in this probably five ten acre clearing that was in front of us, and my cousins got him, but he didn't move. He

stayed right out in the middle. After that's well, that scream before you know the screaming had ended close to dawn, and so it went on thirty maybe forty minutes, wow, on and off it went on a long time. Foxes don't squeal like that. Let's go a little bit. Then they'll get scared and run a way. And I'm like, what's that? You know? That was weird? And I told that about it. He said, Son, I just can't hear it.

I said, I understand, and so I went to my cousins and I asked him and one of them said, no, I didn't hear anything. I went to the other one. This is one I really trust and really like him, and I said, Andy, I shouldn't said his name, but what doesn't matter. I said, what was that? He kind of looked down and he said about foxes make all kind of strange noises. So Andy, that wasn't a fox. I know better. I've been out with them hunting and things, so I knew what what it sounded like. Plus they

were pretty rare out there. You didn't see him very much. So I just kind of filed that off in the in the uh, in the bin of strange things, right, And it was just one of those weird things.

My other cousin, ma'am. When he was out there, this guy was constantly down looking for signs of things moving, looking for anything moving, and he's quiet, don't move, Mike. If we're just gonna took some white tailed deer or maybe some quail, or see a roadrunner, that's no big ye. Occasional turkeys, that's one thing. But he was always really cautious out there. And the land is still and it's in their family name now, but I often wonder because

there's so much it's open from there. All the way back into the Texas hill country, a good fifty sixty miles to the west, and there have been some reports out that way, and I wonder, you know, after becoming more aware and finally admitting to myself that, you know, this was pretty strange, I needed, you know, I just

it was just really strange. Man. I don't know how to describe it, but that other cousin was always on the high alert when we were out there, and he was always armed, even when it wasn't dear season, he always had something with him. So well, I grew up, went through high school, started on college in Central Texas, and the next event happened. And I actually can pin down the actual date that this one was. We were on Christmas break and my friend Eddie I think it

was him, was fun. He had to study because his semester actually picked up it finished right after the first of the year, and he said, well, let's go for a movie. Okay. So we're standing around at my parents' house in Central Texas and all of a sudden we started hearing helicopters. Well, we hear a lot of helicopters over there, the big twin rotors. Chinook's things like that. You hear those things and the what do they call them, the the cobras, You would hear those, but there weren't

even apaches out yet. They hadn't even been introduced. The m one tanks had just been reduced are introduced out there. But that's thirty miles west for where we lived. And well, there's a couple of them coming over, a couple more, and then a couple more, and I'm going, what is going on? They often had an exercise that time of year where they would train the soldiers. You say, I kind of dismissed this thing as logically as possible. Well, they just, you know, get nine times out of ten,

it's always the most common. Well, before it was over, it was at least twenty of these things went by, and smaller ones too, the little hughes, five hundreds. We all went outside, myself and my two friends Eddie and Brian, and we looked in the last four or five of these things are all headed down to the southeast, and I thought that was weird. So we went to the movies.

That gave me much more thought. Well, guess what. In the next couple of days, a big news came out down here near where I live now, a little to the east of me, a couple of elderly ladies and their grandson were driving in a car and all of a sudden, a large UFO came down right over the road and was hovering there. This is called the cash Landrum incident. The days line up perfectly, and they said, twin rotor helicopters came around and escorted this thing away.

Those three all suffered, and the two women may have actually died of radiation burns. The boy not so bad. He's still alive.

well that was pretty much it that night. I didn't see anything else, and I never saw those helicopters come back. This is where it starts getting interesting. Many years had passed by and I was in my oh, I guess I was in my twenties now, maybe five six seven years later. It was spring break. I was with a friend and another friend came by and he said, I'm going out to West Texas. I want to see these

Marpha lights. Oh cool, I've I've heard of them. Well, my friend Brian was with me and Paul and said, let's go. So you know it's a Texas is a big place.

all day. We go to one of the swapfests that I mentioned later on in here, and well we get to Marfa, Texas, we negotiated with the guys for a cheaper room than we all just you know, like guys. We just crashed out there and we were retired and said, okay, let's go out. Let's see if we find these Marpha lights. We go out there, we're sitting there. Lookye, we got two engineers in an accountant sitting out there looking at these things. And we're like, oh, wait a minute, and

I got my binoculars out. We're seeing three of these bright lights move off in the distance, so we haven't moved back. Some red lights go the other. Pretty soon we realized those were the lights on the Presidio Highway and we started laughing, going, no, this is a bunch of crap. And I'm sitting there and I mean, yeah, this is really nothing. And you know, Paul was We did a few time exposure photos. You know, that's always fun,

and you know, it looked pretty good. What I didn't know was that area right there where you go with the viewing area that used to be a military base a long time ago. You can still see it on Google Earth where all the foundations were. I didn't know that it's an interesting factory. Well, I thought, okay, that's pretty neat. And so we're getting ready to go back to Hotewn and I looked over and this. You remember those really blue hid headlights, bluish, whitish ones, of course,

not the LEDs the kids all have. Back then those were rare. Well, there was something really bright right straight down towards southern Marfa, right there. But we're ten twelve miles out of down over a hill and I'm like, what the heck is that. I'm my drinking, that's nothing, that's nothing. I go, no, No, that's something right there. And it flickers and it stayed pretty stationary, and I was like, wow, check it out. Well, guess what that was the real thing? And I actually saw them. Wow,

I have absolutely no idea what that was that. I mean, if it was someone with a headlight playing around, they just spent thousands of dollars to pull a prank, because in those days, those headlights were like two thousand dollars options on your Lincolns or your Mercedes. And I mean now it's common, no problem, but back then that was something to see. I got to see him on the very first time I ever went out to look for him. Have been out there since. I never saw him again.

They say they're still there, but it's a funny flickering light, and they say they moved. But now this one sort of just stayed in one spot and flickered at us. And as we drove back towards Marfa, I kept watching it. And by the way, the Santa Fe tracts are and right by there, and you could tell the difference between Santa Fe train, that big halogen incandescent light versus this blue thing, completely different, and it was a fascinating thing.

Time passed and in my thirties and the job I had really wasn't a lot of fun, and so honestly it was terrible, and I was bored to death and really wasn't a great place for me to be. Well. I take it some time off and I was going to go out to West Texas and bear in mind, I kind of dismissed everything except that Marpha lights up to this point, and it's like ninety six. In fact, it was April sixteenth, nineteen ninety six, Friday before Saint

Patrick's Day, and there's a swapfest. I wanted to go to out in West Texas in Midland, and I said, I'm going I'm gonna just do it, have some fun. So loaded up my car, my goodies, and you know, took these odds and ends with me and I'm going to this thing. I'm going to get out of it, get out of town. So I started out of my town, drove through Colleen, right by the Fort Hood Base, drove on out west and finally you have to make a turn to go up to a little town called San Sabbath.

And I'm not thinking about anything. I'm tired. I'm thinking there's got to be something on the radio to listen to, you know, Art Bell or something nothing like I said. Texas is a big place and you can go for miles without having anything to listen to. Who's you could in those days. And I'm driving and driving, get west of San Saba, driving along, drop down over the cop I believe it was the San Saba River Bridge. I

thought it was Colorado. I think it's San Saba. And I come back up and I remember there's a spot there where there's a big tree on the side of the way, right close to the right away and I saw something black moving a little bit. I thought, why is that cow? And all of a sudden, this thing stands out and I can see more of an ape like face, huge arms. Matt, I'm not a little guy. This thing's arms are bigger around than both of my legs.

Each it stands up and it's almost like noo, get out of here, and I well, what, And of course it's scared that daylights out of me. I went from staring at my at my radio to looking up at this thing that's lit up by my bright headlights and it's right there, not fifteen feet off the road. And I watched it as it went by. Now your headlights fade out, but there's still just a little light left, and I washed it and I swerved. Scared the daylights out of me, and I went from being kind of

sleeping too wide freaking awake. Right there. I'm like, oh my god, I didn't know what to think. I hit my brake lights because you know, they had those big red brake lights up on the top of the rear windshield rear last didn't see anything, but you know, it was a little off the road, and I looked back and I was like, what the hell? And I looked around.

It's two forty five in the morning. I remember I looked at the time, I was like and I thought maybe I should turn around and go see what that was. Was that a prank? Was that a Was that a hoax? I mean, man, that thing had to be ten feet tall and half that I mean at least I couldn't actually see anything below its needs. The lights didn't shine that well. And then it was out of the lights, the edge of the lights of the car, but it was there.

one hundred acres of the coond trees. And in the early year, early time like that, maybe there were things out there it could forage.

side of Texas. I had nightmares from that. You know. It was like, let's ask South some hallucinations. Hallucinations don't cause you to have nightmares, Yeah, you know, they don't. You know, it's do you might relive the situation. I never have never wanted to.

that one time. I said, yeah, it's teeth a flat I would assumed if it was a primate that it would have like chip like teeth with flat well with pointy canines. It did not. And so I'm like, yeah, this is this can't be, you know to me, You know, when you're suddenly confronted with something that's real. Every bit is real, as you know, the the walls on your house, but you try to deny it. Well, it was medium lenk hair, not long string, fairly well kept from what

I remember, and uh again, its arms are huge. The head did not protrude far above the shoulders. It seemed like it like maybe the tops of the shoulders met its neck or something, because it's not like a human where our head sticks freely up above. It was down like fifty percent lower where it would be down more in between the shoulder plays. But it was there.

mostly black. The belly might have been a slightly lighter shade of black, it seemed like, but it was black.

not really, And it was, you know it. It looked, as best I could tell, as like, shoot, get out of here. Was about the kind of impression I got from it. But it looked like it was pissed.

kind of came more of a realization about that rationalized. Basically, I tried to put it as far behind me as possible. I did not see that I'm imagining things. Maybe I was tired. I think I was. But maybe I was tired. Maybe it's whatever didn't happen, and that's the way I treated it. Unfortunately. I went to my event out in Midland. I had a good time. But I mean all day long, I'm thinking about it all day long, that that wasn't normal. That wasn't you know, half asleep dreaming something.

the heck was that saw it? Within thirty minutes of me seeing that thing?

from Austin. He was running parallel to me and saw it, so it was high and I was like, wow.

Space Shuttle or something. It was flying back then. It wasn't in the.

Not right, but you know, I'm not professionally trained, but I see things.

And I want to say, it was like the size they were talking about was like a mile wide or something something crazy. And according to the article, it was like whenever they noticed it and started looking at it, it started flying off and instead of eventually hitting a vanishing point, they all say that this thing just basically turned invisible, like it just went clear and they couldn't

see it anymore. And so like, I'm hearing what you're saying, and I'm wondering if something did have that type of technology or ability to cloak itself and be invisible, what would it look like entering the airth's atmosphere. Like, that's a good Could that have been like the outer edge of some sort of vessel or something.

down here in Texas in different places. And I told him, now I'm not here. Well, we talked and we talked. We talked about it for quite a while, and I'm thinking, well, you know, maybe there's something. He says, No, no, there is. He starts telling me about an image he had about something that was out in the field he'd gotten with that flair he built, and I tried to magnify it as much as I could. But it's only a few pixels wide, and I said, just moves, and it's moving

fairly quickly across there. We never did figure out what that was. And finally, after we talked and we went through a lot of things, and he was showing me a lot of the online community they put community and I said, yeah, Lo, we need to talk about something. And I told him about it. He said, what you I said, yeah, I think so I called him where. Well, we talked about it at length, and finally he introduced me to one of the local community leaders down here.

And this was the weekend that uh, I can think of in time that there was some other things going on, and I hung out with him that day and we talked that the lines pretty interesting, and well, I started coming around at that point, Matt. I started thinking, you know, maybe this shouldn't be dismissed so readily. Well, I had an assignment in California outside of Bakersfield, and I went out there to go up to go out there and

work on some stuff for a pipeline out there. Well, this one Thursday, they said, oh, we're gonna have to have a safety stand down. I said, well, can I come to the safety meetings now? No, you just go. You're free, Okay, you just go, okay. And you know, I was a basically a contract engineer for him through the company I was working for him, and at the time I decided I was going to be mister nature photographer. And so I got my best lenses and everything, and

I was using a film camera. And even though digital's route, I didn't think they quite had the performance of what I could do with my film camera. They didn't at that time. So I've gone wandering around taking pictures of California poppies blooming and various things, and amazing matt birds never sit still. The moment you point your lens at them, they fly off. I've gained a great deal of to have respect for the guys who sit there for hours

to get just the right shot. I ended up wandering further and further up to the north, I guess northeast of Bakersfield. I went up a road called Colliente Road. I thought that was kind of neat, gribbed around back there, and finally I said, man, this is they're like redwood trees up here. They're not the giants, but they're really red bark, big connor conifers type trees. Well, I thought this would be good. I bet I'll find some good birds up here, Matt. It was still as a tomb.

I think I saw one, maybe two little birds, and they flew off. I'm sitting there. All of a sudden I started hearing like something moving through the underbrush making some noise, and I'm like, we got us a bear up here or something. And I got to listening. I said, that's not four legs. And I didn't know at the time. Bears are pretty quiet when they move unless they're charging you. And this thing has two legs and it's and I'm like, what is this. Well, I'm here's a little thing of

the train. I've sent you a picture where I took that picture, where I took that picture of that GPS unit that is right there, and you can look that up if you look on there. There's like a man made lake down below there, which wasn't there then, And up above there's a new ski set of ski slopes. None of that was up there. That was all empty forest out there, and there was like some kind of a camp or so, it was the church camp or something at the end of the road up further and higher,

but it was pretty high. It was about sixty four hundred feet and it's nice and cool up there. It felt really good. And this noise, whatever it is that is stepping down there, That's when I realized, Matt, it wasn't moving. It was just making the noise. And I'm, you know, after a little bit, I'm starting to get a little unnerved. And we're about ten minutes of this.

I'm listening and I'm going and I'm looking at it with a two hundred millimeter lens down there, which is not much, but there's nothing down there that I can see through the trees. And it's just getting maybe getting a little louder. It doesn't feel like it's getting any closer. Well, there was no motors. I didn't hear any kind of engines, and I didn't this is starting something Trying to get my attention away from looking up the slopes. I turned

around and looked up the slope. Nothing, nothing that I could see. I looked back and forth up there. I kept looking up because I'm thinking, if I'm trying to distract somebody. I'm going to make noise over there so something behind me can move. There was nothing up there. Whatever it was was down in that brush, maybe less than one hundred yards in the brush, but it was making some noise, mad making some serious noise down in there.

And you know, it was fairly bright outside. I mean, the tree cover where I'm at is is heaving out. Let's get a picture of how this is. There's a road there that's throwing parallel to me, my rent cars down there below me. Took to my left a little bit. This is straight out in front of me. Whatever's making this noise. It's almost a forty degree slope up and I'm a hundred feet away from my car up this slope and I'm not even maybe a fifth of the way to the top, if you will. And there's nothing

behind me except trees, and they're not that thick. You could see through them. Across the road. It got more brushy, but there was nothing down there. You could hear it. Whatever it was was staying just out and beyond into the brush. So I started getting a little nervous about this. Something's not right here. I'm getting out of here. So I kept my camera up, I looked, moved down, gotten into my car, snapped a picture of the GPS I know right where this area was, and then I just

drove away and that was it. That was a weird one.

you know, film photography was a little expensive. I didn't want to waste a bunch of shots. But I regret not just holding down the shutter and just going through twenty exposures really fast, just to see if I caught anything. But I didn't. Nowadays, I'm pretty well equipped with digital cameras. So if I think you run into that same situation, I will.

So it was really spooking. Well I get back. I talked with my friend Lowell, and he had pretty much the same opinion that there was something there and I just didn't see it. Had I been more careful and looked around, maybe I would have I've seen a little one or something laying there. I don't know. As far as I can remember, I didn't see anything.

might as well throw it. In two thousand and four, I was I got home from work and it's time to take my two little sheetsuos out, Didget and Shorty. They need their little walk. It's overcast and it's gray, and you know, I just thought, well, I'll just take them off down the driveway and go walking down the driveway and they're on their little leashes and they're all

happy as can be. And get to the end of the driveway and I looked up to the to the east down my street, and there's this guy standing walking up the street. I looked right at him. He's tall, very thin, hair on top, big nose, glasses, white shirt, white work shirt on, like you know, he had a pocket protector I could see, had a long jacket, kind of work you know, kind of work slash casual shoes and like dockers. I thought, that's kind of strange. Oh well,

it must be a neighbor. I just sadn't met the dogs, didn't notice him, dogs didn't see him. We turned to the left and started heading west up the street, up the hill, and you know, he was walking pretty quick. He was making pretty good strides. I went maybe fifty sixty feet and I turned around, Matt there was nothing there. Nothing. This was about like five thirty or so in the afternoon, and I looked up the head. So I started walking back. I turned around with the dogs and where do you go?

I called my wife. I said, hey, uh, lock the front door. There's somebody strange out here. And myself and my next door neighbor to the east to that side. We didn't have fences in those days. You know, we lived out of the country. We didn't care if you're dog ran in my yard. Grape, I didn't care. So I called her and I said, do you have a visitor over? And I described him to her and she's no. So she went out and was looking around and I said he was right there. I was pointing, and I

saw the dogs with me. My wife came out and I said, there's nobody out of here. So I put the dogs in. I walked around the property, walked around her property. Nothing, Matt, not a thing. I don't see things. Did I just see a ghost? You know? I'm like, that's weird. My neighbor over there to the east, she thinks I saw a ghost. I'm like, I don't know. I was awfully real. I mean I could even hear him walking. You know, you can't tell me talk when

a hard sol shoes hitting an asphalt pavement. Yeah, but nothing there, And there's no way he could have gone down to the end because that's over one hundred and twenty yards to the end. What the ninety return is. People across the street have a five foot horse fence. The people to the other side of Dead's house, they have a horse fence. And it's like, that was weird.

weird things I've learned. I cannot dismiss this stuff. I've got to just keep my eyes open and keep looking, because there's more to what we see out here than what meets the eye commonly, and I mean, this is an additional thing. Thought. I saw UFO once back in the in the nineties. This is a funny story. Took off after it, and everybody's going to you're crazy. I said no. And so this big oval thing at night trying,

you know, it was moving around. First thing, UFOs don't have marker lights red and red and green lights and magation lights. I took off and I was chasing this thing, and I was zips out and you know, I'd make a turn and it would make another turn. And this is on the in the countryside north of my Central Texas down I finally got oh, I've got you now, man. I went down this road and rolled right up underneath the Fuji film Blood and I just started laughing and

I said that was cool. Well then I went I figured as he was going to the airport to get to get aviation fuel. So I went over there and yeah, I I got out there and well here he comes in. He had a big red barren mustache and everything's from Austria. He was totally cool and he was going to the UT football game the next day in Austin, and so

you know, keep your eyes open. You never know. I mean, you've been lucky, well you've actually gotten a CD see one of these things when you're actually hunting for it, and maybe some other things too. But you know, it's just for me. I have to always look at the practical, but I also have to not dismiss everything. Maybe one of these days I will actually get to go out

and have some fun out there. There was another little incident that our friend Lowell and I went to Hanobia well after he was gone, and I thought, just for the fun of it, I was going to drive down that road that goes by the church camp where they have to get together. And I'm driving down there and I had I had my little digital camera propped up on a on a thing and iving slowly down the road. Windows are down, and all of a sudden, this god

awful stink comes through there. Oh crap, No, I think so, I don't think so. So I just accelerated on, kept going, went on and got back out on the main road. I said, I don't think so. And because I know that's not far from where those mothers places and they still have stuff going on out there.

there's got to be something interesting out there. Well, you know, I traveled a lot the car I had when I when I saw that thing out there, and say, Saba already had two hundred thousand miles on it, and I bought it new. And so when you put yourself out there, you get you get a lot of exposure. Something's liable to happen. Yeah, those are those are my stories? Also, don't dismiss the things you don't understand because just because of it, maybe later on you'll go, oh, wait a minute,

yeah this makes sense, and at least it does to me. Now, yeah, what are the odds?

I saw the guy out there California. That was just part of my work travels, which took me to forty plus states over those years while I was doing that. And I think, I just I'm the curious kind. I got to go out and go look around. That's the only excuse I can make up for it.

They work for a major oil company, and they've got dog men's and they're pretty sure there's dogmen down towards the Pata down there where it's really scraggly mesquite brush and things like that, and there's no shortage of food for them down there. And well, I found out that he was interested in it. We had we had fun talking about that. I have a hard time putting that, you know, putting that into a box somewhere. But people are seeing something you know, you don't. You're not that

many people with issues the way they might see. I think they see something and they're they're actually not. It's I think that, if anything, they're somewhat migratory. They move up and down through the more rural areas, sticking primarily to water sources or nearby Uh. It's a lot like our own hunter gatherer pass UH for the humans. If they are out there, they're moving along the known trails that they've often used to do what they need. And I mean, you get along that Texas Oklahoma border, man,

that's that is a serious hot spot. And we all know what happened at the Big at the Big Indian Casino there. They have that video that they saw and you know that's and you're talking about getting close to people. That's close. And I mean that's a huge building and you know it's coming up rating the trash cancer. So I'm thinking there may be a relatively small population, but it's a relatively active population the real assuming.

but it's a designated area. All of a sudden they see something they can't explain, and it's inside their area. There are technology that exists that maybe thirty to forty years ahead of what they admit to, and it is very possible that they are testing things. I had a friend, mister Knowles. It won't matter, I haven't seen him in decades. He described something happened while he was a soldier in California. They were on maneuvers, they were moving as a group.

He saw this large cylindrical thing basically appear it had windows on the side of it. He could see people moving around in there, but couldn't make them out, and it was just hovering just above their road there, moving and then it just faded away. And he and all those guys saw it, and they said should we report it, and said, oh, hell no, don't. So you know, there are things that are going on. Someone knows the answer.

Will it ever be us? I doubt it. But there are things out there that we we don't know about are they ours? I suspect that thing that was seen down here near us on the cash Lander Minstet was one of ours. And if you believe a guy, what is that guy's name? He claimed he was a man in black for the Air Force. He's got a lot of videos. He claims it was viewed one of the pilots. It was a reverse engineered foreign or non earthmade vehicle.

And but it's your say until I can see it proven, right, unless you or I see it, I have to question it. So but yeah, I think if we just keep your eyes open, pay attention, that little shadow you thought you saw moving around the corner may not have been a floater in your eye. That face you saw on the other side of the parking lot one night through a flar,

that was something you saw it. You just have to be you have to have firsthand knowledge of it and be willing to accept your findings or at least be willing to research what you find.