When I was at Ohio State Reformatory. So we were on the third story and we came around the corner and I mean, I took one step and I knew, I knew the problem was is I knew, and I disregarded it. I'm like, something's down there. It does not want us back there. So my friend that I was with was behind me, and I took a couple steps and I was like, I mean, it was like heavy. It was almost like I was walking against wind, but there was
no win. We got maybe like second cell down and something pushed me, like physically pushed me, like grab me by the shoulders. And I turned and I was screaming at her. I'm like, run, run right, run and run, like just go, go, go go. This thing had me by the shoulders and was shoving me all the way down. And the only thing that keeps you from a three story drop are like two little tiny bars as a little buffer. That's it, and then it's just a
three story drop. This is Bigfoot Crossroads. My name's Matt, and joining me is the hostess. I guess is the correct term of cryptids, creeps, and conspiracy. Natasha. Welcome to my home. Well, thanks for having me at your home, your virtual home. I started noticing you popping up on social media everywhere. I'm glad it's working. It's working. I do it all myself. Yeah, you're the one person that's beat the algorithm somehow, somehow. It's called persistence, stubbornness and being Okay, I really
don't know. I have no idea. I wing it. I have no plan. That's usually the best plan. One of the things that I saw pop up, and I guess it's just because we're in the same groups or something, was a drawing you did. Oh yeah, yeah, it looked like an alien life form of some kind. Yeah, and it really got my attention. So I wanted to reach out to you and hear about the story, and you volunteered to come on and tell it. So here we are, So tell me what happened. Well, so what I find interesting.
By the way, thank you again for having me on here, because I a lot of times deal more so with paranormal experiences of the demon ghost variety, and I had just been telling someone that out of all this that I had encountered, I hadn't had any extraterrestrial encounters and story of my life, I just should never say anything, because that's gonna happen. But other than you know, I was young, gosh, I don't know, maybe
nine ten, and I'm from a small town in southern Indiana. And we went up, we went up on the farm in the back of this pickup. Oh my god, I really am a hillbilly, and we were, you know, kids, We were riding in the bed of the truck. We went up on this here. Oh my gosh, Ibo came up hill, up on the heel, my god, and me and my brother were in the back, and I remember looking up, and I don't remember a
whole lot. I just remember there were these strangely, it was like three lights triangle shape, you know, typical stuff that you generally hear about. And it was way way way off in the distance. It had nothing to do with us, It didn't it didn't appear that it wanted anything to do with us. It was just very strange to see three lights that were clearly not as high as the stars, but not on the ground, kind of hovering above the tree line, and they did this weird zippity shape thing and
then poof gone all right. So I'm a kid, I don't know I was like, that was weird. I asked my brother. I was like, did you see that? And he's like yeah, He's like, what is I have no idea? And then that was that, and I was like, well, it wasn't enough information for me to say one hundred percent that I saw something. I don't know what I saw. Who knows what I saw? And I tend to lean very much so towards the skeptical side
for everything. QUI questioned everything as much weird crap that happens to me. You would think that I would just take it for granted, and it just I really questioned everything, even the stuff that I see. And I had just talked to somebody about some alien stuff and made the comment, and I went to bed that night, didn't think anything of it, and I just laid down like normal, fall asleep. Well, next thing I know,
I opened my eyes and I am not in my bedroom. Wow, there was no there was no transport, there was no I woke up felt something. It was literally I was out. I opened my eyes and I was no longer in my nice squashy bed, you know, covered in my pillow fort that I sleep in. I was completely naked on this metal table strapped down. I had a strap across my shoulders, My arms were to my side and kind of where like your crotchbone and like when your arms are down
your hands, like all of that was strapped down. I had straps on my knees and my ankles like holding me to the table on my back, and I was looking up and it reminded me kind of almost like when you go to the dentist and they moved that lamp in front of your face to see in your mouth to work on your teeth, and it's really really bright, so you can't see any thing around you because the light is so bright
in your face. Similar to that, but it was just this very round light or lamp or whatever that was up by my face, so a lot of the room I couldn't see because it was so bright. I could see kind of me if I my head wouldn't move very far. I don't remember it really being like it wasn't like strapped down where I couldn't move at all. I could kind of lift it a little bit, like enough where I could look down and see my belly button, but I couldn't actually lift my
head all the way off the table. And so I just kind of saw what was just directly around me. And then there was the light and I was like, man, that me and my brain I work in the series, and I'm like, damn that that light's really bright. And at first I didn't notice, and I was like, what where are my clothes? Where am I? I didn't notice anything at first except for, well, this is weird. I'm like, I'm having a really jacked up dream.
And then something moved out of the corner, like I saw the corner and I d you know, tried to look over there and right next to the lights, so just right outside where I could get was that thing that I drew, only I didn't draw the whole extend to it, so it was obviously I saw more of it. It was very very tall. I Am not going to pretend that I could judge distance because I can't, but it
was just really tall, real lanky. But it almost had like a almost like he had too many beers, Like he had a little beer belly, but not huge. We're not talking like eight months pregnant, but we're talking like, you know, a bloated kind of belly. And they were like a bluish like bluish color, and their eyes were black, and their fingers had these really long fingers like I keep, I want to say, kind of like et but blue, but twice as long. I mean, these
things are like kind of gross. And I saw one with that weird thrill that reminds me of when you get that scoop in that pumpkin carving kit, you know, little orange classic scoops to get it at the dollar store. It kind of if you chopped off the handle and stuck it to the top of like a gray's head. That's kind of what it looked like. And it was looking at me, and then I noticed that there was another one right next to it, and then I saw it was really close to the
light, so I couldn't see a whole lot. So I thought I saw maybe like a shoulder and arm of another one, but it was so close to the light that I couldn't actually see anything because it was right over the
light, so it was just blinding me whenever I look. But I saw the other two and it just was really weird because they almost looked like they were having a conversation, like their head like their body language looked like they were talking, but nothing was coming out, but they were clearly communicating with each other. Never community kid with me at all. I mean I was
in the dark, but it's like they were talking to each other. And then they were looking at me, and they were and they looked back at each other like they were confused, and then eventually they were like pointing at my stomach like they were trying to figure out what was wrong with me. That's pertinent here in a minute, I'll get to it, but that is there's a reason that I think it all made sense. So they're looking and looking looking, and the next thing I know, it was they stuck there.
It was almost like their hand like a tip of their finger. I don't know if they were holding something. I didn't get a good view, so I don't know if it came like a beam came out of their finger or they were holding an instrument. I couldn't get a good look. But it was red and it went down and right above my belly button. I have scar that I just got last year because they took my appendix out and it hit almost like they were cutting my appendix scar open but not my belly
button. And then it felt like something was just kind of just I don't know how to explain it, except almost like they were stirring my insides, like just kind of swirling them around, and it didn't hurt or anything. It just felt really really weird. And the next thing I know, you
know, they're looking at each other again, look like they're talking. They look somewhat confused, and they keep looking down and looking at each other, and then eventually they pull the thing out and they use the same red and go over and close the same scar, which my scar is like really dark purple, so's like you couldn't even if they did, you wouldn't be able
to notice if they did anything to it, because it's pretty prominent. And as soon as they did that, they kind of looked at each other and then it's like one of them put their hand like on me, like just to kind of, I don't like, rest it on me. And then next thing I knew, I was awake. And what was really weird to me was when I woke up, it was so vivid and so real that I was immediately questioning what happened. I'm like, was that real? Was
that a dream? I've never had a dream like that before. I do have very realistic dreams that sometimes they do happen. So it was very confusing to me because it kind of felt like one of those types of dreams, even though it just seemed really far fetched to me. But when I woke up, my stomach hurt so bad, like my When I say my stomach hurt, it wasn't like, oh, I like ate a bad egg.
It was like my intestine. I have IDs, and I've not had any issues with it for months because I've been taking medication and you know, watching my diet blah blah blah, and I've not had any issues. But that morning I woke up and I felt like someone had just let Tasmanian devil out in my stomach and it was cramping really bad. And the pertinent information I told you if we get to is I am not a normal thirty someven year old lady. I've had a lot of surgery. I mean a lot,
like seventeen, so I'm missing virtually everything. It's anything that you can live without. I pretty much don't have. Not only that, but one of my surgeries they got rid of my original belly button, and my belly button I have now is fake. They manufactured me a belly button. Wow.
Okay, So if we go along the lines of a typical abduction situation, these bastards came and got me. They were expecting to enter my belly button, which was not like any other belly button they'd seen because mine is manufactured. Once they finally got into my stomach, my organs to reproduce are gone. So I'm wondering, did is that with the swirling were they looking for
them right in there? Because you know, you have to think I'm at the time, you know, I'm early thirties, you know, I and a lot of times they do, you know, they abduct they either incubated baby, stick of baby something about a baby goes in there but in the oven, and then they use you for that. But nothing, none of my equipment would allow them to do what they wanted to do to me.
And I'm like, wait a minute. Maybe that's why they were looking at each other so confused, because one they went to go with my belly button. Then they realized that's not right, something's not right here, like she's weird. So they were like, oh, well, here's this other entry way we'll go in, and then it was like, well, shit, where is it? Like, let me look around, and it's just not
there. And then they just kind of tossed me out, I guess because they couldn't do anything with me. And it was just so weird because it seemed very realistic. I still close my eyes, I could still see exactly
what they looked like. I am not an artist. I was actually really impressed with how well that picture turned out because I was trying to explain it to somebody who does a lot of alien abduction research, and we were trying to figure out if we could determine what species or something, and they sent me They even sent me a poster with like one hundred and fifty different species and then I do any of these looks and I'm like, none of those
are it. None of them are even close to what I saw. So we were trying to figure out what it was, and it just in my head, I'm like, was that real? How do you know if it's real? That seemed very real, and it wouldn't have bothered me. I would have chalked it up one thousand percent to me having a jacked up dream had it not been for the fact that when I woke up, I was
having physical symptoms that correlated with what they what I just dreamed about. Yeah, stomach hurting and being kind of nauseous and everything like, it was just really weird and that and I just I had to draw it because I was like, man, I need to know if anyone else has seen it, or I'm like, does it even I mean, because it sounds like a stereotypical in me being a skeptic. To be fair, I love stories.
I always want to hear everybody's stories and encounters and all of that. But I do try to I'm always the one that likes to ask questions, poke holes and just because I'm curious and because I had never experienced it before. And then all of a sudden, I get smack in the face and I'm like, well, it does seem for the most part, structurally or procedurally like a typical gray abduction, only they weren't grays and they couldn't finish what
they need to do to me because I didn't have the right parts. And it did make me kind of, you know, question that because it was so stereotypical. Is it my brain associating? Maybe I was just thinking about
alien stuff and maybe that's where the dream came from. Yeah, I've tried to look at it from all kinds of different perspectives, because it does seem it's like every stereotypical you know, they're probably in their ship talking to each other in whatever language they talk, and they're like, oh, just another you know day, no day paradized gym, Like, let's go down here and steal this bitch, and we're just gonna, you know, pop a button, evenstend her back, and we'll you know, probe whatever. They
did not probe by the way they look like. I was like, well, what if they did that? And then it was like, all of a sudden, the mission fails. It's like your delivery boy or something and you're delivering a package and you were given the wrong address or this construction. You're like, well, shit, what do I do now? You're right, it sounds like your stereotypical abduction story, at least to my limited knowledge
on them. But something that stands out is your drawing. If it were just a dream, it's kind of interesting that the beings you saw were different than anything I had seen portrayed before exactly. See. That's what I was kind of wondering because I was trying to be like, well, if it was a run of the mill whatever, Betty and Barney Hill, whatever, abduction, I feel like what I would have been seeing would have been a cookie cutter gray. I mean, aside from and these things weren't even really
gray. They were blue. They were blue. The only thing they really had common with a gray was their eyes, and they didn't really have a mouth. They had like a little slip for a mouth, but I couldn't really see a nose, so it was their face looked like a gray as far as structurally, but they weren't the same color, they weren't the same height. They had that weird frill. So I was like, that's really weird, yeah, for it to be similar but very different, like very
very very distinct if you compare the two. And it was just like that that and what I thought was really odd was so afterwards I was talking to somebody about it, like later that day, and I could close my mind and I still can and I'm gonna probably get to be here in a second, but I can close my eyes and I can still see exactly. I
could see everything. I could see them, I could see where I'm at, I can see all this stuff, and whenever I was trying to think about it, it was like, all of a sudden, I almost had a panic attack. Like I could feel my heart rate going up. I mean, I have anxiety anyway, so I know when it's coming on. And I just like I felt like I couldn't breathe. My heart was racing, I started to sweat. I was like, Okay, I'm like if
that was just a dream, that should not do that. It was like my when I thought about it, my body was triggering an automatic response of how I should have reacted. How long ago was it? This was just like like maybe two weeks ago. Wow, Like really, this like just happened. Yeah, And other than whenever you're a kid and saw the strange lights in the sky, no other like UFO sidings or anything like that in those times, to my knowledge, there's nothing that I can recall that screams
alien anything. Like I said, most of my stuff is pretty it's like the paranormal side, uh and some other weird strange things, but nothing that seemed extraterrestrial to me. And even whenever I saw it when I was a kid, it wasn't close like some people see it and you know it comes towards it. No, I mean, this thing had absolutely no interest in us at all. It just kind of zip zip zip, and then took
off and that was it. And it never even got close enough for us to I couldn't tell you if it was three individuals, if it was one big one with three lights. I it was so dark and so far away. All I could see were the three lights, and that was it. Have you told your brother about this? Uh? No, I have not. It would just be interesting to hear, you know, if he's had any experiences since you know, deciding as a child and everything, or yeah,
because I mean it has to be some weird. So my brother's always lived in More. He's more like the city boy kind of thing, which I mean, I'm in a town, but I'm a pretty small town. There's only like twenty three hundred people here or something in the whole county. So so but I am like I am in town. It's you know, well lit, there's lots of houses, but it's nothing near as industrial.
So I'm like, well, maybe they if something was to come get me, they probably would not think anything about our little blip on the map. But where my brother lives it's at least ten times the size of where I am, so it'd be a lot harder to be discreet right about where and everything. But I, you know, I should, I should ask him
just to see if he's had anything, because that was just so. But my thing was, I don't even think that two are related because it never the original one never got close enough that I don't even think we knew that we were there, to be honest, it didn't. It didn't react in a way that made it seem like it was like fleeing from us, or it literally like we just weren't there. Yeah, We're literally in one hundred some acres of fields and woods and this thing was way, way, way
on the other side. So I don't even think it would be uh oh, it got close enough and it came back to you for me specifically because we had some sort of interaction because we were so far apart that I don't see how that would even be possible. Yeah. I just recently spoke to a lady who's also has an abduction experience, and she's part of the UFO community. She speaks at conferences about it and stuff, and we were talking about how it seems like, people who have these experiences tend to have more
than one. Yes see, That's what I thought was interesting because I just assumed with me, you know, I was like, Oh, it's probably random or whatever. I was like, man, that was like right before this happened, I was talking to somebody about I'm like, I am thirty some years old. If they were going to take me, they would have
taken me by now. I was wrong if that was the case. Again, I'm very skeptical because I'm like, did I just because I have no tangible other than the fact that I was so sick in the area that they were screwing around with and their reaction made so much sense with my anatomical issues. I was like, is that Because people are like, oh, you you know, it sounds like an abduction, I'm like, what was it like, I'm like, was I are you sure? Like I don't even
know what to call it. I'm like, I don't know if like with it a dream, But I do know that a lot of people they do they come in and it's something whatever you have, there's something you have or these people have that they want. I don't know what it is, but they want it. And so they might take a person multiple times, and then they start taking their kids, and then they start taking their grandkids, and it just kind of whatever is in their genes is something that these things
need or want, and so they just kind of stay with it. Now, as far as I know, I have only gotten one report, very vague. I have no details. I only know that my which actually is kind of ironic now that you think about it, my biological grandmother had told someone before she so she died, she was forty two of cancer, she had bone cancer, and she had told somebody that she had had a UFO encounter. That's all I know. I don't know if she was abducted.
I don't know if she just saw it. I don't know anything. But ironically, that's the same person I look like in my family treem, which I do find kind of odd. Yeah, it's like very like to the point where when my son was little, like I said, she passed away. Obviously, my mom was twelve, so I wasn't around yet, and my mom has this picture of her, like a high school picture of something up in the cabinet, and my son, when he was little, he
would point at the photo and call it mommy. Because he thought it was me. Oh wow. I mean that's the thing though, Like you're saying you're a skeptical person. I'm a skeptical person. So where do you draw the line at coincidence? Yeah? I know, RICI and that's why I'm like, So what I try to do is I try to eliminate everything that I can. And that's why I'm trying. I'm like, well, is
it a coincidence? Like, but there's this, so I try away all the others because on one hand, I'm like, I was potentially dreaming. I was asleep and there was no recollection. A lot of people remember they get whisked away through a window or being through the ceiling or the wall or I didn't have any of that. There was no to and from. It was just boom, I'm there, boom, I'm back, nothing in between.
Had I had the equipment necessary for what they probably wanted to do to me, I would then have some evidence because my husband's thick, so that would have been hard to explain. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he had alien integnatity. I'm sure he's he is very anti. He doesn't believe in anything. He just calls it all hocus pocus. Even though I have sick the spirits on them twice and they actually listened and they did some crazy shit right in front of his own eyes, and he still doesn't believe it.
I mean, some people just don't want to believe it. Yeah, but I mean, come on, when the treadmill turns itself on right in front of you and does not turn off until you unplug it from the wall, take a hint and one of them. I mean another thing too, is I left for work and he called me, and he was mad at me because he thought that I had brewed a cup of coffee in the curing machine with no cup and just left it for him to clean up. It makes
me nauseous, so I hadn't touched the curing machine in three months. It was just I would use it for hot water for hot coked but that was it. And it happened after I left for work and before he got up, so it waited for me to leave to be like, it's not her. She left and it brooded a whole cup of coffee with no cup, all over the counter. And then I was talking because he's like, oh, maybe it's a glitch. I'm like, do you know how the cured
works. I'm like, one, you have to turn it on. Then you have to lift the lid, put the lid down with a cup in it, and hit the button. That's an awful lot of movement for a technical problem. He's like, oh, it was just maybe a short. I was like, really, because it never happened again, It's just and it only happened right after I told him. I was like, I know you're here bother him. He doesn't believe me, And the next day it started happening. So you have spirit activity in your home. Oh, it's
anywhere that I am. It just follows me everywhere. With being so scept I really do try to explain everything. Oh. I try to look at it from all angles before I try to make a decision. And even sometimes, like even with this, I am still struggling with myself to be like Susie, that was an abduction scenario right in my head. I'm like, I don't know. But again, if something were to fly off the shelf next to me, I'd be like, Oh, it's just a spook.
It's fine. Like it happens to me all the time. I'm used to it. I'm comfortable with that. It's been like that since I was a kid. It's whatever. But then the thing that has never happened before happens, and then I'm really skeptical about it, and I just think it's really
kind of weird. I don't understand why I am like that. I've not been put in that situation till obviously recently, because I feel like I should be pretty open to it, because I mean, that's what I cover, right, That's way I talk to people all the time and all this stuff, and I would tell them I have a really hard time believing it because I've never experienced it. Boom, like a week later, I'm got somebody in my belly button I don't or well, trying to get my belly button.
But yeah, it's just really difficult for me to try to figure out what it is because I'm trying to come up with anything. I don't drink, I don't do drugs. I mean, well, I take medicine for my mental health stuff, but I don't take anything that could cause any type of hallucination or anything it. I mean, aside from well, something probably
was poking around in there. I don't really have a good explanation. I mean that's the thing you're going through all the stereotypical telltale signs or someone who had a real experience. Yeah, and it's just it's just so weird to me that my brain's like, but did you? And I don't know if maybe it's just my own bias because of how media and all of that has portrayed people that I'm like, am I crazy? I can tell you I've seen a demon, I've talked to people that are dead. I've seen people
that are dead. I interacted them all the time, and that to me does not make me crazy. But if I say I'm obduct about alien, I'm like, oh great, I'm crazy. Okay, So we got we we got to talk about that. We got to talk about that. Obviously, you've apparently had a connection to the spirit world your entire life apparently, Yeah, pretty much. So what I remember being a kid, and I thought it was normal to know. I just chalked it up to I had
a really good sense of knowing. I didn't know how, but I always knew when something was wrong. I always knew when there was someone there, as I could feel people whether they're breathing or not, apparently, and I didn't think anything of When I was a kid, it was just a weird thing. And I found out that apparently I have some sort of impath thing going on. There's a bunch of words that people have thrown at me to explain what I am. I have not understood most of them because I don't.
I don't know that much about it to be like, oh, yeah, like this is what, this is what I do. I can say these are things that I do. I don't know what causes it or why it. You know, I don't know why or how or when. I can't control it. I can't just you know, summon Great Gertrude, you know, great Aunt Gertrude from the great Beyond and talk to her. I don't know how to do any of that, but I know that they'll talk to me when I want them to. It was just things where I always
this is a horrible thing. I can tell people this. Everybody assumes that if you're an impath, that you're very sensitive to other people's feelings, you're very soft. That is not true. There are I will fess up, there are some of us who don't realize that it's called an impath. I just know that I know what you want. I know what I want, and I know how to manipulate you to get what I want because I could feel whatever it is that you need and I know how to do it.
I would be like, how did you know that? How did you? I'm like, I just know. I don't know. I just I just know, and I go with it. It goes with my gut, I said. People the time, I always know, I called my They give me the willies or they give me Spidey cents, and people hate it because you know, even in you know, dating, When I was younger, no one could get anything past me. I would always know. But then when I was about fifteen sixteen, I went toe to toe with the best
way I could describe it, it was it was a demon. There was it was not a person. It was a thing, but it was not a person. There was no he, there was no she, there was there was no there weren't any factors that you could I guess attribute to. So now if something is around me, sometimes I can pick up on like a mental image of what they look like, or they boy or the girl,
short hair, dark hair, whatever the case is. I could sometimes picture them and so I know who I'm talking to at least how to talk to them, because I know about you know what age they are and all that. But this was there was nothing, There was no it was just it was a void. It was almost as if this thing was nothing but a black hole sucking something like. I don't know if it was energy or
what, but it has taken something from me. And it was a foot and a half two feet from me, and I was like dead, staring it down for a good couple of minutes. I talk about that one of my so if you go it's I think it's when I was with Travis. I start talking about my first hauntings in that house, and that's what I'm talking about. It's I go into all the details. I think in one of my pictures I drew, I tried to I tried to draw what I saw. I'm not the best artist, but and that happened. And I
don't know if nothing happened to me to I guess provoke it. It's just I got in the car and it was there, and then it disappeared just out of nowhere. Yeah, that one showed up maybe four or five months ago, and I hadn't seen it since I was fifteen and it showed back up at the house. So it's been with me this whole time. It just hasn't shown itself until recently. Whenever there's a spirit around, Let's just say, you like, walk into a house, what does it feel like
to you? Okay, So the best way I just call it the willies. I know that sounds really weird. It's not very good descriptor, but depending on what it is, you get all kinds of feelings. Again, with that impath, I think kind of factors in. I could walk in and be like, oh, like there's someone here, but they're cool, like they're chill, they're not gonna do anything. But I can walk in and something or something comes in after we've already been there, and it's like
everything. The best way I can try to explain it is, let's see here. Imagine you're okay, well, okay, we're gonna we're gonna play a little make believe for a second. Okay, So assume your cave man, your mind, you on beeswax, and you walk out of your little cave and out of you know you, You can feel that it's like that instinctual there's danger nearby, right and a t rex jumps out of the ok it doesn't, it's it could jump. It's got long legs. It jumps
out of the trees and is staring right at you. That feeling of fear when you know, you get the goosebumps, the hair stands up, and your immediate response is run away as fast as you can. It is not safe here. That is what you sometimes get when you've got something negative around. It's very much it's almost uncomfortable. So either that fear factor. Some of them are let's I've been watching a lot of Monk on Netflix. Have you seen that show? Okay, so Monk is very very very OCD.
So if you were Monk and someone walked in and they had one short sleep, rolled up, one pant leg on the other side, and half of their buttons were undone, that uncomfortable feeling until he can fix it and make it go away, that's squirmy. You feel like you're just crawling in your skin feeling. You get that too. So sometimes it's just like something's not
right. You just you know that, especially if there's a lot I get that way if there's a lot of spirits around, because I there's so much going on that, I get a little overwhelmed and I just get kind of squirmy. But some of them too, Like I said, you walk in and you don't even really have to to say or do anything. You can know that someone's there and kind of I don't know if you guys have done this, but we'll go with We'll go with a parent or a sibling.
I guess everybody's got a parent, right. Uh. So you're in your room, you're on your phone or whatever, and you know, just be on your phone. You know it's past ten o'clock or whatever, shooing, and you can hear your parent coming. You can picture in your mind. You can see whichever parent or sibling is coming up and down that hallway because you know them, you can feel them, you can see them. You know their footsteps. You know, you know, maybe dad walks faster than
mom mom. You know, whatever wears a certain type of shoe. You can picture in your head what they look like. It's similar to that, only I have never met these people, but I still somehow can see. It's like they let me see them without actually appearing as an apparition. So I I almost wonder if maybe it takes less energy to do that, to communicate that way, to be like, hey, this is me, I'm
talking to you like I'm trying to talk to you. Uh, this is what I look like, and all of that, instead of using all the energy to actually physically show up. So sometimes it's like that where you don't even notice anything. You just get a mental picture and you can be like, oh, okay, so there's a man in here, and then you can use your equipment usually to ask it questions and verify whether you know it's
right or wrong and stuff like that. Some of them, if they're angry, you get angry if they're just because I know everybody just assumes that they're all very negative spirits, and I don't believe that. I think sometimes they're just here. Sometimes they're just you know, hanging out There's it's not like
there was some catastrophe that is keeping them here. I think sometimes it's just maybe that particular person had that extra energy and so when they passed something almost like there's like an extra something there that lingers because they had more as they were alive than most people do. So I think that some of them, you get some emotions, especially if you're in those residual hauntings where it's kind
of on repeat. They're not always bad. So I've had some people tell me there's like they be at a wedding ceremony and it's like people get married and they walk down and then it starts over, and I mean, that's a happy occasion, so you can feel joy, you can feel whatever. But there are obviously also the negative that happened where the persons stuck there, probably because they were brutally tortured and whatever. So I think it's just kind
of different. So I don't know what it feels like when everybody else feels them. I just know that because I could feel a lot of what other people feel. That's what it's like for me. Me is I just know sometimes if they are a very strong spirit, my something doesn't go well.
I've had this happen a couple times, but not very often. I get very nauseous when certain ones, Like I was on a ghost hun at the Ohio State Reformatory and we were doing a seance in the church and I thought I was going to blow chunks everywhere I was, So I was fine. We started halfway through, I got super sick, and then it sounded like something fell in the back of the room, and as soon as it fell, maybe thirty seconds later, I was fine. So whatever it was,
it's like I felt it come in. It did its thing, and then when it left, I felt better. I've had some live I've had a live show where I was on there live and I'm here in my studio and I had to leave. I had to turn it off and leave. I was so sick. I thought I was gonna spew everywhere. Something was so negative and it was making me feel so uncomfortable that I was extremely nauseous. And when I turned my spirit box on, it kept saying it was it
was very aggressive. I know exactly what it was. It was that thing they think that was sitting with me, the non human buddy over here. I gotta watch talk about him because sometimes he likes to bloody my nose to turn my lights out. So yes, it's happened in a recording before. I had a spontaneous bloody nose in the middle of recording. As soon as they started talking about him or it, I just caught him, but it,
uh, it didn't like it, So my nose started bleeding. And then I apologized and moved on. And as soon as I apologize and moved on and stopped bleeding and it was fine. And then all of my video content for that episode was erased. It was just a black screen. How weird. So yeah, yeah, that one's not very friendly. But that one, when I put the spear box on, it was say, you know, get out, go way lead. I mean, it was very very aggressive, like get the hell out of here. You like, I
don't want you here, go away. And I was so sick and I just and as soon as I left, I closed the door of the studio. As soon as I closed the door, I felt fine. It was just whatever was in there was it did not want me in there with it. Have you had other experiences where you've I guess physically been attacked or whatever. I almost got I almost got murdered at Ohio State Reformatory. And now my nose has got some blood on it. That's fantastic. Sorry, dude,
moving on, we won't talk about anymore. When I was at Ohio State Reformatory, we were up. If you haven't been there in the middle, so you walk in in the cells are not like you would see in something on TV where they're like all against the wall and blah blah blah.
No, it's like a column, a giant column in the middle of a huge building, and all around the giant pillar are jail cells, and then there's staircases that go up the one side and go around, so you have like one in and one out and they're just stacked on top of each other. So we were on the third story and we came around the corner and I mean, I took one step and I knew. I knew the problem was is I knew and I disregarded it. I felt it. I was
like, whoo, Okay, I'm like, something's down there. It does not want us back there. But we were on a ghost hun so what do you do? You go anyway? Right? So my friend that I was with was behind me because she doesn't have anything like she literally takes me as a radar to just kind of point me around to see where the spooky step is. And I took a couple of steps and I was like, I mean, it was like heavy. It was almost like I was walking
against wind, but there was no wind. It was really where it was heavy. It just kind of got hot, and I mean, I was getting an aw she so I was like, man, I was like, I don't know. I was like, I don't know if we're gonna make it. We got maybe like second cell down, and she was probably you know she was obviously she started off right behind me. As I went, she backed off, so she was a few feet behind me, and something pushed me, like physically pushed me, like grabbed me by the shoulders.
And I turned and I was screaming at her. I'm like, run right right, run run, like just go, go, go go. This thing had me by the shoulders and was shoving me all the way down. And the only thing that keeps you from a three story drop are like two little tiny bars as a little buffer. That's it, and then it's just a three story drop. And it pushed me all the way the end, and I hurried up and turned, and as soon as I turned, it
was like it ran straight through and then went away. It's just as long as I was not on the side of the corridor, it was fine. So the moment I went to try to peek again and it started to push me again, so I we got the hell out of there. So physically there's that that was not fun here at the house I have. My kids like to pull pranks. They're generally more auditory than physical, but I'm pretty sure one of them was playing with my feet. My breathing kid is one
of five. The rest of them just it was just horrible. It was actually very, very horrible experience. One of them is actually where I had my first year enough experience, and so my kids just kind of follow me around everywhere they have since I lost them. And I was in bed.
I had my blankets on, like I normally do. I have really bad issues sleeping, so I put a headband on, I put speakers in and I play loop I loop a song which is rain, and I put the blindfold on so I can't see the light and I can sleep better, and my headphones on and I lay You know in bed. Have you ever been around a little kid, probably around two to four years old, and they pretend to tickle you, and they're like, okay, oh, take go, take go, take on yeah, and they just kind of like wiggle
their fingers even though they're not really tickling. Okay, that is exactly what I felt on the bottom of my feet, and I was like, oh okay, So I started kicking my foot around, assuming maybe it was like a cat. I don't know. Cats don't move like that, but whatever you again, skeptical. I was trying to just shake my foot. Soon as I stopped shaking my foot, it happens again, and I'm like, will you stop? And I throw my headphones off and I look down and
there is nothing there. Something was tickling my feet. I have a man that's kind of a creeper. Uh. And if when you go okay, so if you go to wake someone up, but you don't really want to scare them, and you walk in and you like put your hand like on their foot, just the them know that you're there, right like hey, Like okay again, headphones on. I'm laying to bed. That happens and I'm like, yeah, babe, what you need nothing. I'm like okay,
So I go back to bed. Then it's on the back of my ankle and I'm like, yes, honey, what do you need nothing? What the hell? So I shook my foot a little bit, laid back down. Then it's on like my calf. It just feels like I feel like a man's hand on my cap, not squeezing, but just sitting on them, just like let let me know that they're there. And I'm like, babe, what do you need? And I shake my leg and it stops, and I'm like, okay, so i'd go back to bed.
You think I would have looked at this point, but I don't, because apparently I'm an idiot. I just assumed you with my husband. So then it goes on the back of my knee and I'm like, babe, what do you want? Nothing like, damn it. So I shake it whatever, and I go back to that. So then it's like halfway up my thigh, okay, and I'm in it. I'm in I'm in a baggy T shirt and a pair of breeches and that's it. And so I have
this man's hand. So then I'm like, oh, hey, like maybe he's you know, he's stelling a little frisky, right, And I was like, oh, hey, honey, you get and I take my headphones off and there is no one there, but I can feel the hand on my leg. I was like, hey, it's still it's I can feel it there, and I am looking and there is nothing there. So I was like, you know, alsodden. I started like wiggling around into that and I was like okay. I was like, that is not okay,
that's not acceptable. Go away and do not touch me again. And then it stopped, so I'm like, okay, cool, and then I just went to bed because you know, I have to give this. People touching you is no big deal, but one of the ones that scared the crap out of me. It didn't involve anybody touching me. But as a parent, if you're a parent out there, you can relate to this one kind of you're gonna have the holy pants scared off you, probably because I was
even creeped out and it was my kids doing it. So again, headphones on, my husband's in bed, everything's quiet, and I hear mommy on the other side of my door. And at first I was like did I hear that? I'm like, that was weird, and I wait a few minutes because I just thought I was hallucinating or whatever. I was like, I looked at it. I remember looking at my phone. It was like two thirty in the morning. That's like their prime time, they like two
o'clock. And then I hear mommy. I'm like, it's like postive headphones, like yeah, bug, I call my kid. All kind of weird names like yeah, bug nothing, I'm like book or do you need something nothing? So then I shake my husban, but I'm like, did you hear that? He's like did I hear what? I'm like, did you hear somebody call me? Mommy? It's like I didn't hear anything. Baby's in your head. Go to bed, okay, So I go back to bed. A few minutes later, Mommy, I'm like all right. I'm
like bug, I was like, do you need something nothing? I'm like okay. Then after like four or five times of this going around of just like mommy, mommy. The voice that your kid makes when you have lost that like like you go down the other aisle at the grocery store, your kid can't see you. They think they have lost you forever. That terror in their voice when it goes up a few pitches and kind of like cracks
and they get scared. I hear that, Mommy on the other side of my bedroom door, and I have so many goosebubs just telling you about it. Okay, whoo, that's really weird. And I hear mommy, so, I mean I it was like reflex boom. I mean, I am up. Headband is off and I'm I'm like, okay, So I'm run to the door because I think my kid's in trouble. And I opened the door, nothing is there. Nothing, So it gets better. So I'm
like, Okay, that was really creepy. But now I've got to go check on the kid, right, because now I'm paranoid, right, and I just feel like I need and so I start walking towards my son's room and I have so many goosebounds. This is so weird. But I start walking. I take two steps towards my son's room and all of a sudden, the hair stands up and I realize one, my son is twelve going through puberty. He sounds like this. He does not sound like Mommy.
That's not him, so different tone. Not to mention, my kid is too cool to call me mommy anymore. I'm just mom. And I realize this as I'm walking towards his room, and all of a sudden, I kind of slowed down and stopped. I was like, that's not him. And as soon as I thought that, behind me in my kitchen, you could hear like giggling like gotcha, mom, I was like, and I was like a turn around a turn, so I turn around. Nothing,
there's nothing there. I peek in on my kid. He saw on logs clearly never left his bed, didn't even know I was in there checking on him. And I was like, all right, guys. I was like, you cannot scare me like that. I was like, I have to go to bed. I have to get up early and go to work, so you gotta leave mom alone. I need to sleep. And then they were quiet the rest of the night. And then I've been on the couch and it's like you can synth them and it sounded like someone like a kid
was standing right. I had the foot, you know, the foot thing up on the ca ouchrop snooze, and it sounded like it was standing right next to the foot thing, and it was like mommy, and it woke me up, and of course I look and there's nothing there. And it's again two thirty of the morning. They like to wake me up at two
in the morning. It's it's actually And what's funny is is I will try to go to bed and it'll be like midnight, two o'clock in the morning, and I'll turn the TV off to go to bed, and the TV just comes back on. It's like, nope, we're still watching TV. And like last night, I just left it on for him because I was like, there's no point turning it off and just get turn it back on.
And it's happened to me like three times this week, like this last week, like I just get everything and I turned TV off and I go to walk in the other room and TV comes back on. I'm like, okay, fine, I'm coming. So it's just like pretty constant activity. I mean, there's sometimes it gets kind of quiet. Sometimes it especially around birthdays when it's around their birthdays, things kind of pick up, but it's
pretty much. I mean, where's so when I record, I do video recordings whenever I do my podcast because so much weird stuff was happening and I was like, no one's gonna believe me. So then I started recording everything and so on my Patreon feed, I upload all of my video content, and I mean all of it. There's no editing, there's no no you
get raw video for the whole thing on there. And I had I usually turn my cat balls on behind me and they'll be going off like in the middle of episodes and just and they just hang out and hit the little censor and I'm like, oh, hey, guys do and and some people they react more to some people than others. But yeah, it happens. I mean it's everywhere I go, Like, weird stuff. It happened at my last job. It would happen, well, really any job, but it's
really anywhere I go. There's always something happening, to the point where I notice when it's been a while, like if things are kind of quiet, it happened so frequently that if it tapers off for a while, I'm like, huh, nothing weird's happened for a while, Wonder what's going on. I mean, I've talked about it a few times on the podcast, but you know, I grew up in a house that had activity, and I still live in that house and it still has activity. It's definitely not as
frequent or intense as it used to be. But the television thing is actually something that I've experienced in the past couple of years, you know, turning off the TV and walking out of the room and it comes right back on, and I'm just like okay, and it's the same. I've owned the TV for like years, and like it never did that before, so what is it doing? This has been happening for the last like three weeks, and I've had this TV for three four years. And sometimes it'll be like
I'll just even I'll just think about the TV. I'll be like, oh, I think I'll go to the TV on and the next thing I know, I hear music or here's something. I'm like hello. Because I'm by myself, I'm like a Hello, who turned the TV on? I wasn't even in the room. I'm like, what the hell's happening? But it is. It's like sometimes like I'll field air. I've had things knock on the wall. Every time I go in the bathroom, the lights flicker, well, only one set of lights flickers, the other one stay on.
So so whenever it's not a spirit that's directly connected to you, and it's just a stranger. For instance, not everybody experiences this stuff. You know, there's some people that go through life. You know, like you were talking about your husband, happened right in front of them and you know he's still So do you think it's something where like the spirits know that you will notice them one thousand percent, one thousand percent. I think so when I
told you that other people know I have had someone. I actually was at a ghost hunt at Ashmore States. I'm not going to mention the guy's name because he was a little bit he seemed a little bit, uh, stand offish for to talk about it, but he made some comments and he just was kind of like, I don't know if I should talk about it. I don't know why, but whatever, teach their own. And there were some ladies there that were in past. I mean I could tell because I
could just tell, uh. And he he did something that I find very interesting because I do it people all the time, so I would I when I tell people I can do weird stuff and they don't understand. I try to explain the best the best I can. But I'll have them stick their
hand out and I'll put my hand over their hand. I don't touch it, but I'll put my hand like right over their hand, and I can kind of like push like energy and their hand will get hot and they can sometimes feel like vibrations from my hand even though I'm not touching them, like I can send it. So this guy gets the two girls it was like a mom and a daughter, and he was like, oh, he's like you guys are clearly impassed. He's like, I could you know, I
can feel it? And he's like, somebody else in here's got something going on. I'm like, who is it? So I was like, Eh, that'd be me because I was like, I don't know exactly what problem is. But he had me do it and he was like, oh okay. He's like you're different, and I'm like, great, that's what you want to hear. And he was like, I don't know exactly, but you're definitely different. He's like, well, you've got some of the energy that they have to because but you got some mothers. And he's like,
do you happen to sometimes have this? And this happened. I'm like, how the hell did you know that? I'm like yeah, like all the time. And he never but he never explained to me why. He just could tell that I was different, which really drives me nuts because I would love to know. But I think that whatever that energy is, they see
it. And I think maybe that that energy and stuff is kind of why I can see them or I could hear them, and I think the different types of energy is maybe I don't know if it's like a translator or it's almost like a you know, night vision goggles or something. Maybe someone with one energy can hear them but not see them. Another energy might be able to see them but not hear them. Another one might be able to feel them but not do the other ones. And I feel like there's different types
of energy, and I think that they see that. It's almost like we're a lighthouse and you know, okay, I could see the lighthouse, and
that means the lighthouse can see me. So I think some of them come to us because they want to communicate, because it takes less effort and less energy on their behalf to communicate with somebody who's gonna be easier to communicate with than to go to someone who has absolutely they might want with all their mind to do They want to do it, but they don't know how or they don't have something that is needed. Travis's story, when I talk about him,
it was very similar. So he was communicated with and there was he was a child, his mom was in the house, he was warned about a fire in his house by a spirit and his and he's kind of like that, like, you know, kids are more open and all of that. They didn't talk to the mom to say, Mom, you know, lady, go down there and fix this. They went to him knowing they could communicate with him. It was like, hey, there's going to be
a fire. There is a fire, get your mother. So he went to get his mom to go down there, and look if they prevented their house being burnt down because he went to his mom. And I feel like, to me, that's a good example because if they could just communicate with anybody, if they're going to communicate with somebody, why would they communicate with somebody that they don't know how they're going to respond or if they're going to
respond, because why waste the energy on something you're not sure of. It's kind of like me and my husband. There ain't no way in hell they're going to go to him because he's going to shrug it off anyway because I think it's it's not real, right, But they pester me all the time. That makes a lot of sense. I'm trying to figure out if I'm saying an orb or a bug in my room, it's an orb or a bug. I am so skeptical on orbs. To me, every orb is
a piece of dust. It is not real. I was always the same way until I was coming down my hallway one night and the light in the living room was off and there's this tiny, tiny, tiny little dot of light and I watched it float across the room and go into the front door. Okay, so was that an orb or a fairy? Well? Okay, ooh. You know what's really interesting to me? Before anything paranormal happened to me, I was obsessed with fairies. They were real. I tried
to I set traps, I tried to catch them. I bought all kinds of stuff, like fairy toys. I don't know what it was, but to me, I'm like, I knew they were real. I knew they were real. I just couldn't prove it. And so I spent years as a kid trying to get evidence against fairies. I interviewed a guy about bigfoot and after we were done recording, and he made me swear that, you
know, I had stopped recording. He didn't want to recorded. He swears up and down that him and another guy on a big Foot outing saw a fairy like yep, I believe that. I think. I think there's what I struggle with is if so many of these things people believe in. You can't believe in one without believing in the other, even if it's not a tinker Bell. The fact that these fairies are so ingrained in culture all over the world for thousands of years, there's got to be some truth to it.
Well, whenever I say I don't believe in fairies, I literally mean I don't believe that there's things like tinker Bell flying around. Let me let me be specific about that as far as fairy Laura is concerned. Yeah, I definitely believe there's something to that. You should go listen to my Icelandic elf sex episode What's Wrong with You? So this woman I had to cover it. So I actually heard it on another podcast and I had to dig
it and cover it. This woman wrote a book talking about discussing how she would frequently have sex with elves and yeah, it's it's bananas, but yeah, she wrote a whole book on it. It's how to Please Yourself. But the e lf is all cast it is I should you not? I should you know? Go look at my posts from the Icelandic lsex because I put a picture of the author on there too. She even gets into uh like positions, and yeah, I am not joking one thousand percent. I
did the research. I covered it. It was great. I oftentimes talk about how different people have different limits, that you know, their bar is at a different position. Yeah, and my bar is definitely not too. It's just some of this stuff is so funny. But but yeah, I mean it's just to me, there's there's so many Now, some of them
are just you know, I'm like, just fun like. But if there's a lot of information or a lot of potential sightings of certain things, I'm like, how can you not at least consider the possibility You've been experiencing this, you know, crazy stuff your whole life. Uh, what made you decide to start doing the podcast and go down that route? Well, a lot of it, Like I said, a lot of stuff happens. It's
me. It was just like second nature. I've always been interested in, which is I I never understood why I am the black sheep of the family. Uh. And I've always been into you know, weird creatures and ghosts and fairies and demons that I've always been very interested. Not like I had much of a choice, because it's pretty much smacking me in the face my whole life. Then whenever I have my first near death experience, it just got worse. And then someone had me listen to a podcast and so I
listened to it and it was okay. But then I found the christ podcasts and I found them and I started listening and listening and I could not stop. I mean, I loved it. I would listen to them, I you know, at work all day all this stuff, and because they were very they're very down to earth. They're super nice guys, I mean just absolutely phenomenal and just listening to them and feeling like you're you're part of the you know, you're like you're part of the gang, you know what I
mean. And they have a really good community and stuff like that that you know, I talk to people other people that listen and stuff like that. And that's what I want for my podcasts, is I want to so like I'm part of their Patreon subscribe or whatever group. Uh. And they have like their discord so it's like all of the Patreon subscribers that have full time chat that the guys are always looking at so you can get a hold of
them most of the time. You know, they'll pop in and chat all the times, like it's just like the normal people, right, and listening to the things they covered and knowing how they do it and the things that I enjoy, I was like, you know what, I think I can do this. I was just listening to them, and I don't know what it was, but something about them just made me just be like, you know what, I think I would enjoy that, because to me, it is so hard. I again, I'm in a small town in the Midwest.
There is no one ever in my life that I have met that likes this stuff besides me. Until I started listening and I became part of their Patreon community, and then I got to meet and once I got into the you know, the researching and the conventions and all that, I was meeting other people where for the first time in my life, I did not feel like an outsider. I actually felt like there are people out here like me.
I'm not crazy. These other people they believe me. They don't just want to ship me off to the looney bin because I hear things or I see things, or I could tell you within forty eight hours if you're gonna die like They don't make me feel so judged. And they were very open and I just I feel like I need that or I'm gonna go crazy. I mean, being the only one in that willhouse like it's being a black
sheep is very crap. Because I am generally a social person. I like talking to people, I love meeting people, I like learning new things. I'm always curious, and it's always been a bad thing. But when I went to my first convention, it was like I landed and I was in a giant flock of black sheep that just were like everyone was so nice, like the community. They're like, oh yeah, come in like whatever, Like yeah, let's go have some drinks or let's hang out or have dinner.
How's it go? And sit in chat like shake your hand like they Everyone there welcomed me like I had been there for years. Everybody was so awesome, and like getting on the social media, I met a lot of people. It's just like I could always call and you know, I've been out of work, but I make these little guys that I have all over my studio and I'm actually really really excited. So my first puppy got delivered this morning to another podcaster that I'm in. We have a group of podcasts
that all work together. We share each other's trailers and and all that. And they came together and almost all of them bought something from me because they knew that I was out of work, and they have them all up in their studios and stuff that's there. They're fantastic. I love them all. I would name them, but there's like thirty of them, so I can't
remember. But I don't want to get upset. But I do little episodes like go short ones where I just put I read my reviews, I read my paper, or do a shout out to my patrons, and then I put trailers at the end so that you guys can have, you know, an idea of other podcasts that are similar to mine. But yeah, so they go on up anyway. So one of the guys got a pair of puppy that I custom made for him. Some of it is huge. It's like two foot tall when you stretch him out and it sits, and it's
his logos colors. I made him custom colors, and it's got a pocket in the mouth where you can put a cat ball for a sensor, and then I built in there's option where you can build in pockets in the paws so you can add more sensors to it if you want. And he just got his and he's gonna take it when he does his ghost hunt at the Conjuring House. Oh wow, And I am so excited because I'm just it makes me very I'm very proud that I could have something out there that's doing
something. You know, I don't know. I don't know how to explain it. It's just like a piece of me that goes out and it's just it's just really awesome because everybody you know has been very open and it's just been it's been awesome for people who are listening that don't have any idea what you're talking about. Explain to them, you know, what you're actually talking about with the pair of puppy for instance, and what oh oh sorry, Okay. So I handmade a bunch of stuff, all kinds of critters.
I actually have some that I haven't even listed yet. But I crochet like a little lady in my haunted house because I was like, oh, I wonder if that would help, you know, add to some activity. But I do everything. I've got three different sized ghosts that I make. I've got bigfoots that I make. I've got two sizes. I got a big at a small moth man. I've got a big at a small nessy and they're all and I got aliens, I got gray, I got green,
I got big and small. I even have a Fresno nightcrawler that I make and I crushed them all stuff them so they're just like school stuffed animals. And then I just made a chupacabra, the reptilian kind, not the mangee dog kind. And I just made a little centaur last night. And they're all stuffed and all of that. But Parapuppy is a little special. I got the idea. I'm not gonna lie. I didn't come up with the
idea all by myself. Well it kind of did, but I googled to make sure I didn't want to make anything, you know what I mean that, And I google everything to try to find a price, because I try to find do a bunch of research, try to figure out is there anything like this out there? If so, what do they cost? What is
so I try to factor all that into price buying on my store. So when you talk about this, because a lot of people make comments about the prices, but I'm like, well, just for pair of Puppy takes me almost thirty hours to make. So whatever you make at your job, do that for thirty hours to tell me how much money you make, so I
don't think my price is actually too bad. Also with para Puppy, I put a little bit of a homemade twist on something that so I get on my ghostting equipment from ghost Stop, and ghost Stop has a thing called a Boo Buddy, and a Boo Buddy is an eight inch tall stuffed bear, just like a regular stuffed animal that you would go to the store and buy. Kind of Boo Buddy has a built in EMF reader, so he's triggered by EMF and he lights up. So I wanted to make something similar.
However, I don't know how to do any circuiting. So what I did with parapuppy is I made him and he has a pocket in his mouth, So you open his mouth up and you can shove up. I mean, really whatever you want to. That's okay, that sound really bad. What you do is you open his mouth and you can put in a motion sensor if you wanted to put in. Basically, put whatever you want there. Some people I have told them it's an option. I mean, I don't
do it because I don't have any. But you can put in, say a Bluetooth speaker and say you want to have your phone and you want a Bluetooth the spirit box out of your para puppy. You can put a speaker of whatever kind you want in there and take it out. Or you could put the sensor in there, you turn it on, stick in his mouth, close his mouth, he's good to go. You could take it out. I made it easy to access because I didn't want to make something whre
when the battery died, you were screwed, right. I wanted to make it so instead of buying another para puppy, you could just buy a you know, five dollars catball and shove it in his mouth. But I do have options where the any of his paws really I can put pockets in so it's the same thing. You could put the lights into the pockets, so you take him on your investigation. My theory with my pattern was again everything is handmade by me. It all starts his balls of yarn and I make
something out of it. I wanted something that if you took it to an old haunted house or haunted anything. If there were old spirits around, I wanted something that they would feel comfortable interacting with. And back in the old days they would knit or crochet. They didn't do a lot of stuffed animals
any other way because they didn't have the stuff. So a lot of the really really old ones would be crocheted, and I found like a pretty generic pattern, so it would hopefully encourage the spirits to interact more with the toy, as opposed to something where because I had somebody ask me why I could put a censor in just about anything I make, to be fair, but
say you had like an alien doll. Well, if you have a spirit that's maybe a child from seventeen eighteen hundreds, they're probably not going to go play with an alien doll because they might be scared of it. So I tried to come up with something that would be familiar to them. And even if it wasn't a kid, it might be say an older woman or some thing where they might have made something similar for their grandkids and they might be
curious to play with it because they might recognize something about it. So that's what those are, and you could do it like so there's different options on there, so I can add pockets just about anywhere. But I'm gonna take mine with me to par Con and see if anything happens. But yeah, I mean anything really but mine. I'll do motion sensors, so with a pair of puppy, no matter what size you get or whatever, I always send it with one sensor, so you at least have one to get started
with. But if you have other pockets that you want added, I have options where I can add the send you the ball in it, and I can leave a pocket so you can get it in and out, and or I can just send you the bear with nose sensors and you can buy whatever whatever you want to put in their spine. I try to make it pretty easy so and leave a lot of room so it wouldn't be too bad. But yeah, where is all this stuff? Where can everybody find your podcast,
your merch everything? Oh? Yeah, okay, so there's a couple different ways. If you want to look on a website. I do have a website. It is www dot cryptidscreepsand conspiracy dot com. I know original right, And if you're in there, everything's there. You can leave a review, you can you know, rate the podcast, all the episodes are there, uh, depending on It's usually at the top, depending on which phone or laptop what you're looking at. There is a button to click for
merch. So I am going to warn everybody though. I have two merch websites currently. I have the Square, so if you hit merch on my website, it will send you to the site where all my handmade stuff is. That is the only place to find my handmade stuff I do. Also, if you go in any of my social media, there's a link at the top. It's a link tree link, and if you click on it, all of my stuff is there too. The website's there anywhere you want
to listen there. I have both the Tea Public and the Square Store. One of them I tried to put the titles in where it's like ones like T shirt, cups and mugs. One's handmade stuff, so you'll know the difference. You can click on any of those. There's places to donate, there's places to reach out. You can go on the website. If you've got any encounters or experiences, questions, anything like that, you can always send them on the form on the website or my email is cryptids Creeps and
Conspiracy at gmail dot com to get into there too. I'll also be at so Again par Con, which I don't think it's going to come out before I get there. But the end of September of this year, I will be at the Indiana Bigfoot Conference and I will have a booth there as a vendor, and then I will be in November, I will be at CRYPTIDCN in Lexington, Kentucky. I do not have a booth there, but I
will be there all weekend. If you've had an encounter with something unexplained and you'd like to share it on the show, email me at Bigfoot crossroadst gmail dot com. If you get a chance, check out the website Bigfootcrossroads dot com. You can find all the past episodes, links to march, links to the social media, everything you need all in one place. And until next time, remember there's something in the woods.