Ep:113 From Ghosts To Bigfoot

We started to leave. My husband says he's going to go ahead and go, and he goes in front of me with U haul, and I'm about maybe five minutes behind him. I'm down this country road and I'm next to an area where there's a creek on the left side of the road. When I say way down into the creek bed, I mean the sides are like six feet tall. I'm kind of going slow because I'm not used to this road at all. I'm definitely not going to speed limit. I may have

been going twenty five thirty maybe I had my window down about halfway. All of a sudden, something roars in my window behind me. Keep in mind, I saw nothing as I was coming around the bend of this road down next to this creek. I saw nothing. But when this thing roared in my window, it was so loud and there was so much air. They came to the car that it blew my hair and it made my hair wet, and I screamed. This is Bigfoot Crossroads. My name's Matt, and

I would like to welcome Steph. Steph. How are you good? How are you doing? Okay, good, good good. I am excited. You've got me all hyped up. Now we've been talking about some things and I can't wait to get into this so awesome. Yeah, take us to the beginning. Okay, the beginning. It was early nineties. My husband and I had moved to Indiana. We lived in a mid mid to big sized town and we lived in an apartment at first. In like an apartment,

so we started looking our house. While a lot of the houses in town are older, you know, the house we ended up buying was built in the twenties. Nice house. It was just it needed just a little fixing up. But what happened was we got the house. He would go to work every day and we were down to one car, so he would leave me there to paint the walls clean, get everything runny so we can pretty much move in. And one of the first things it was odd,

I always felt super tired there. It was early in my early twenties. Didn't get super tired at that point super fast. And got to the point where I was cleaning and stuff. And one day I was trying to hang some things on the wall and I got in ther bit case and looked for drill bits and it was empty. I thought it's weird, so He called me a lunch time and I said, hey, heyday, what'd you do with all the drill bits? And he goes, what do you mean?

And I said, well, the case is here, but they're all gone. And he said, what do you mean they're all gone? I said, there's not a drill bit in this case, not a big one, not a little one. They're all gone. And he said, well, that's weird. I don't remember taking them a while out, but okay. So he took me back a couple days later and I'm upstairs and I'm working in our closet and I opened the door and I kicked something on the floor. Now, we hadn't been up there working at all. We had just

done the downstairs at this point. And I get up stairs and I after I kicked this, it rolls across the floor and I think, what was that? And I turned the light on and it's drill bits and they're all in a row in the floor in the closets in the middle of the floor. Wow. Now this is a closet. It's like four feet wide, six feet long, you know, walk in nice closet. But I thought, okay. So he calls again and I said Hey, I found out

your Drubb's. They're in the closet upstairs. He said, what do you mean all the Drubitts in the closet upstairs, and they said they were in a row. I kicked them and they all rolled across the floor and he said, I didn't put them there. I haven't been in that closet. And I was like, well, okay. And that was literally just the beginning. It was literally just the first taste of I should have thought something is up, but you know, you just go about your business, you

know, and thinks light flickering. That's the first thing that happened, right right, right, yeah, yeah, So I just thought, well, if the lights sort of flickered, I would have thought maybe there's an electrical problem, you know, nineteen twenty's house. But you know, so then you know, time goes on, We get everything fixed up. We have

a group of friends come up to visit. It's two other couples and they come up and you know, the evening we're having a little gid together and a few drinks and playing some games and you know, catching up and goofing off. And we have a friend who drank a little more than the rest of us. So the next day we had plans to go out shopping and do a few things. And the next morning we get up and I asked this six foot four friend of mine if he wants to go, and he

said, first of all, I don't like shopping. Second of all, I'm kind of hungover, so I'm not going to go. So I said, okay, So we go and everything's fine, and we get back and I'm in the kitchen and I'm cleaning up some mess and making some food and he follows me into the kitchen and he says to me, thanks a lot for leaving me here by myself. And I turned and I looked at her and I said, well, what do you mean? And he goes, really, really, you're not going to tell me that your house is haunted.

You're just going to leave me here by myself. And I could feel all the color draining out of my face because I just thought, okay, now, wait, now I've you know, heard some weird noises the drill, but thing, you know, bumps in the night, you know. I thought, okay, well maybe it was just my imagination, but here's another person who doesn't live in this house looking at me and saying you're haunted. Your house is haunted, and I thought, okay, okay, So

I said why what happened? And he said, people walk around upstairs and there's nobody up there, and the cat stares at nothing and cries, and you can't hear conversations, but you can't really understand what people are saying. Let you know, there's people talking and I'm just staying in there, like, okay, okay, okay, there might be something to this there. They're just it might not be my imagination. There might be something to this.

So let's see flash forward, maybe about I don't know, another month. It's solidly summer. Someone comes to the door and when we get to the door, it is the people who used to own the house, and the lady says, I really hate to bother you, but my sign wants to see his old room. So I said, okay, that's not a problem. We haven't done anything. It was the back bedroom. It's still

the way it was when you guys left. So he runs up the stairs and she stands there and talks, and you know, we just she asked how things are going, and I just say fine, And a few minutes later her son comes back down the stairs and he is kind of half giggling, half smiling, perfectly content, and I'm thinking, okay, that's a little weird, but I okay, maybe he just missed home. Okay.

So she's apologizes and I said it's perfectly fine, and they leave. Later that afternoon, the neighbor says, I saw the old neighbor here earlier. Was everything okay? And I proceeded to tell her what happened, and she proceeded to tell me while their son has an imaginary friend that they could never get him to get rid of. So I said, okay, okay, all right, no kids do that sometimes, all right, So not a big deal. So I told my husband and he's like, oh, you

know, so things are moving along. We're still working on the house a little bit. We decide to have the exterior redone. It was just white alone siding and we were going to have Vinyl signing put on it. It had hail damage on one side, so we thought, well, let's go ahead and have it done. And what happened was I had chosen tan that was a big thing in the nineties ten with green shutters. Well, one night I went to bed and the next morning, I woke up and I

had completely changed my mind. And I remember walking into the kitchen and looking at my husband and saying, uh, we're gonna have to change the order for the final sighting. And he looked at me like okay, and I said I think I needed to be yellow. And he said, what do you mean you needed to be yellow? I said, I think I've decided I wanted to be yellow. So he's looking at me like ook, and

I'm not gonna argue. So he calls the company and they said, no, we haven't ordered it yet, and he said, fine, you have yellow. Yes, okay, we're going with yellow. So the company was putting in signing out. The guys came to the door and said, we always want people to look at the condition of their house underneath before we cover back up, you know, to let you know there's no damage, no

rotted wood, nothing like that. And the guy comes to the door and he says, well, now we know why you chose the color you chose. And I said what And I walked around the side of the house and my house was yellow underneath. Wow. I just was shocked. I just thought, well, what are the odds. Yeah, I'd never seen any

old pictures of the house. No one had ever said anything. You know, It's not like somebody said, you know, your house was yellow before, you know, but it was the exact shade of yellow that it was underneath. And then I thought to myself, you know, do they whisper in your ear? And I do you? I mean, but it was literally an overnight thing. I went to bed, I woke up, that's what I had decided. And I just thought, Okay, what are the odds of that? What are the odds of me picking the color it already

was? And I've never thought to you know, I've never been like I have, you know, I have psychic hours or you know that that's not you know, not in my wheelhouse. So yeah, that's my any of my talents. But I was shocked, and even the guys. And then when I was kind of fucking saything, the guys were just standing there looking at me. I was like, oh, yeah, that's fine. You know, I just walked like in the house because I thought, I don't

want to freak out in front of these dudes. But I'm having a moment, you know. Yeah. Yeah, So you know, it was always things like that that we were just you know, and I felt like, you know, people say when we're remodeling, you're remodeling, sometimes it's more active. We we didn't do anything big. All of our work was like more cosmetic. Tick down the wall paper, paint the walls, you know, change the foss or two. But it wasn't anything you know, moving

walls or anything like that. But right. Oh, and then another person who came we had, we had cats and we had the neighbor it was sixteen, come to feed the cats, and his tad called while we were gone and said, I want you to know everything's okay, but I want you to know that my son won't go to your house by himself anymore. And he was saying the same thing that the other friend was saying. You know, the walking, the murmuring. You know, it was just constant

when people were there, that wasn't when we weren't there. It was odd that it was worse when it was strangers than it was when we were in the house. Something I can relate to. Really. Yeah, yeah, I mean everything you're talking about is like I'm just saying, you're thinking, like, yep, same same, especially like the murmuring where you just can't make out what they're saying. It kind of sounds like a TV on in

another room. Yes, yes, uh, you know, one of the first things that I ever noticed in my own home was the walking around the footsteps, so that was a big one. But yeah, a lot of things have happened, especially more what I consider like in your face type activity has happened to strangers and people here whenever I'm not in the room or I'm not even in the house. Yeah, because at first, my you know, I think my husband was thinking that we should we we should be experiencing

the same things that others were experiencing. But it was it was always worse when it wasn't when we weren't at home. But then we we had an issue where we had decided we got the fireplace. It was a little the chimney was a little too small, but they told us it was up to code. So I decided that we would go ahead and get wood delivered.

So I knew a guy in town. He delivered wood, and he was out side unstacking the wood out of his truck beside our garage, and he says to me, that's really a shame that that little boy got killed in your garage, in every hair on my body, just kind of like and I said, and he's still unstacking, you know. He said it like, hey, it's raining today, you know. And I said, now, wait, wait, wait, wait, did you say that a boy

got killed in my garage? And he goes, well, he didn't get killed in his in your garage, but he was playing with gas and matches and he accidentally set himself on fire in your garage. That's horrible. Yes, yes, so now we realize, you know, okay, now this these things that are happening, are you know, now we know why it could be happening or the source of why it's happening. I mean, yeah,

yeah, pretty classic, yeah, tragic. Yes, yes, So I had a friend that worked at the library, and she proceeded to look in the papers, the old papers, and after a while of looking, she said that she found where this incident occurred in the early sixties, and there was two newspaper articles about it. So you were able to like actually confirm it, yes, outside of just you know, after him just saying what he did say as he was finishing the story into the finishing unstacking the

wood that he had lived two blocks away when that occurred. Wow. Yes, But when we found the newspaper articles, it was a for sure thing. You know, it wasn't just someone telling you, it was documented. Did you ever experience stuff in the garage itself? Yes, I was very uncomfortable out there. I didn't want to spend any time out there. One was odd is when we bought the house, the wall in the back was very like the beans looked charred or black. We interpreted that as someone had

let cars, even with the grudge, were open. Someone had let a car sit in there and run. Yeah, okay, But after then we heard this. When we got to looking, you could see where it was. Actually the layer, the outside layer of the wood had burned. Wow. So then we knew, yes, you know, this actually happened,

and this is where it happened. But none of the neighbors. By then we were friends with neighbors, and nobody had said anything because everybody said, we really liked you, We didn't want to tell you, We didn't want you to away. Yeah, I mean, how do you even tell someone that, right? How do you approach that? Hey, by the way, you know, and we weren't going around saying hey, do you think there's a ghost in mind? You know, we weren't really talking about it

because we didn't want to be the crazy people, you know. Meanwhile, I get pregnant and our son is born, and he gets to the point where he's in a toddler bed. Well, he will not stay in his room. He doesn't say anything, but he just will not stay in his

room at night. Well, if he came in the room, we had one of those mirrors on that back of our bedroom door, and it swelled in the summer, and when you open the door would go on it would make kind of ways, you know, so when he would sneak in, he would kind of try to open it slow and then but if my husband woke up, he would take him back to his room. Okay, So what started happening is I would put a palette on the floor on my side of the bed because he knew if he came around to my side of the

bed and fell asleep on the floor that mommy would let him stay. Okay, okay, yes, Well, one night I get to woke up by my husband who has flung the light on and is frantically picking up that palette that's on my side of the bed on the floor, and I said, what are you doing? And he said, you know our son is in here. And I said, what do you Why do you think that? He said, the door flung open, you know, the mirror made the noise. I know he's in here. Well, I said, hey,

where are you be in here? He's not you know, he's not on the pallettes and you can't roll under the bed. You know, he's not in here. And he's like, I know he's in here. And about the time he's looking at me and I can I know now he's like, because he was a I think this stuff might be happening, happening, but I'm not. He's not sold. Okay, so right now, yeah, right right? Because he looks at me and in his most serious face that I've ever seen him make, he said, I saw him come past the

end of the bed. Nope. Uh. And I said, babe, are you suing? He said, I saw him. So he proceeds to walk down the hall and our son is in his bed sleep. So that was that was the day. Then my husband was like, Okay, maybe something is happening, and you're not as crazy as I thought you were. Going on yeah, yeah, this could be a thing. You could be right. So you know, at that moment, I was kind of glad because up into that when I thought, I'm I could be losing my mind.

You know, you have those moments of like, am I imagining all this? Am? I have? I watched you many TV shows? Is there is there something that I'm you know I should be This would be a logical explanation for all of this. But eventually you think, no, you know, I'm not that crazy. You know this has to this has to be something. Okay, So you know, so then I start to ask the neighbors and they begin to admit that they didn't know how to tell us,

didn't want to tell us. Okay, so fine, So I go to a nearby town where they are having a paranormal investigation on a historical home and I start to talk to this parent normal team that's out of Indianapolis, and I say, you know, I'm asking these very pointed questions. And finally the leader of the script told me. He pulls me aside and he said, are you having issues? I mean, do you have a hunting

in your home? And I said, yeah, I really am He said, my friend, yeah, it's it's someone else, it's not me. But he said, can we come, can we do an investigation? And I said sure, So I let them come, you know, and they get in the door and they sit down and they're doing the inshow interview and he said, you know, I just don't get a vibe. He said, usually if I walk into a house, I don't get a you know, I get a vibe. And I do not get a vibe here.

Okay. So I'm like, okay, well, you know, I'm just I'll just tell you what, you know, what people have told me, and you know, So the evening progresses and they have been told about the groad. So they decided I think this was maybe mid to late January. So it's really cold and outside really with cold. So they go out to the garage and the one girl comes in and says, there's something wrong with my temperature page on my meter and I said, well why and she said,

because it keeps shooting up to like almost two hundred degrees. WHOA, We'll see. The initial interview person doesn't did not tell the team. He didn't want to skew what they found, right, So then she gets a different one and takes it out and it does the same thing. So the team leader says, well, let's put a camera out there and see if

we can catch anything. So they put a camera on a really like it's like a welded heavy plate, and they put this camera out in my garage and somewhere around I don't know, two forty two forty five in the morning, this camera, the whole plate that this camera is hooked to, begins to pan across my garage and it stops at the very spot where the wood is burnt. And I'm just you know, and I'm just sitting there, and the person who had interviewed me just turns and looks like and he's looking

at me to get my reaction. I'm like, So they go out there to make sure that nothing moved the cable, nothing made it, you know, nothing nothing. They couldn't find an explanation, you know, so they're like, okay, you know. So then then the whole team goes out, you know, and goes out to the garage and checks everything. And he comes back in and he says, yeah, it's it's a lot different out there in it. And I was like, yeah, it's it's a

lot different out there. So yeah, totally different vibe in the garage than in the house. But the only thing that ever happened in the house, and it was after, you know, some time after you know, this was a you know, these all occurred in a almost a thirty year span of this occurring, you living in this house. But the one thing that happened that I told my husband, if it happens again, we're leaving, We're moving. I cannot. I cannot experience that again. And what happened

was on the street we lived on. There was a house across the street and three houses down they had several children. Two families lived together, and there was a lot of kids, and I always worried they were kind of playing by the road, you know, and I just thought, well, okay, they need to be a little more careful. And I was in

the house. It was early spring day. I had the one of the first days of the year that I had flung the windows open, you know, planing, and all of a sudden, I hear a woman screaming, like screaming to the top of prolongs And it gives me cold chills every time I talk about it. And she screams, oh, my god, my baby, my baby, and I thought something's happened one of those kids. And I remember flinging the front door open and standing on my porch and there's

nothing. There's no one outside, there's no one around, and my brain just was I was so confused by what I had heard that I couldn't I wasn't like grasping, you know, I'm just thinking, well, who was screaming that loud? And why is no one out here? Like why am I not seeing anybody? You know. So by the time I had turned and gotten back into the house, I realized, did I just hear something

that has the day that that boy got burned? And I asked the neighbor, I said, you were here when this happened, and she said, my husband was, and he ran across the front yard because he heard the mom screaming wow. And it was like I knew in that moment that I heard what happened, because what had happened that had happened in the garage, and she saw him run past the front window, which was a huge, big window and land in the front yard. That's so horrible, I know,

I know. And that was the day that I told my husband if I hear it again. I cannot hear that again. I mean at that point I had a son of my own, and I said, I cannot live here anymore if I hear it again, And he said, I understand such a tragic event that is just emotionally imprinted on the property. M Yes, and I think. I mean, I feel like I always used to think, is it residual? Is it like happening over and over and over again? Do you know what I mean? And that's what I was afraid

of. I thought, I can't keep living here if this, if it's going to progress, like if I can, if I start to see the event, if it's bad enough to have heard it, to hear the anglish in her and to just know how horrible that moment was. Because I felt like in my whole soul I felt it, and I knew at that point that it happened again, I had to leave. I loved my home, but I was going to have to go. And thankfully it never happened again.

I never heard it again. Did the activity continue after that point, yes, yeah, I mean I never it was never anything like that. It was always a lot of them murmuring, a lot of the banging, the walking. In fact, one day it got too bad. I remember standing in the hallway stairs and I just said, you know what, I don't have time for this today. I don't have time to worry about it. I don't have time to deal with it. So if you keep that down, that would be great. And then you know, it got quiet

for a little while, But there was it was always something. It was like, it was always right when we could quiet, then something would you know, I'd hear a noise or not explain, you know, bang or you know. It was never quite all the way away, do you know what I mean? It was there was always something there. But at one

point my husband went to the post office. We had been on vacation and my husband went to the post office to get our mail and he said, I need the mail for, you know, our address, and the lady behind him kind of tugs on the back of his shirt and he turned out and said yeah, and she said where did you say? And he said, well, she didn't look scarier like serial killers, so I thought it was a little odd, but I told her our address. And then she

said I grew up in that house. And my husband said, oh when, and when he said a whin, he realized that that was the sister of the boy who got killed. I mean, we were talking about this before we started recording, and I mean, what are the odds, you know, a population of a town that is not small. Yeah, I mean we're talking thousands and thousands, yeah, more than twenty thousand, you know, and you guys had been out of town. Yes, And he

just happened to go to the post office at that moment. She happened to go to the post office at that moment, at that very moment, happened to line up behind him, Yes, heard him say something, decided to ask him about it. Yes, And then it was her. Wow.

Now, from what I understand, there were several I want to say, there were seven siblings that lived in the house, so yeah, she had she had lived there growing up. And of course he didn't say, you know, he thought, well, you know, in my mind, I wanted to say, oh, yeah, you live there with you know, he said. Then I thought, no, you know, no, I'm

not going to say anything. But even it even startled him because he you know, because when she said, well I lived there in the sixties, you know, then he immediately knew, you know, oh, this has to be a sibling of Isn't it weird when the universe just lines things up like that though, right right, like like a you know, kind of like a little nudge of yeah, yeah, because it was, you know, if the odds were that good of winning the lottery, you know.

But but you know, but I feel like sometimes the universe wants like a confirmation right like that you needed. Here it is, you know, it can't get any more obvious because it was too phenomenal here it is. I don't know, I just there was a lot of things that happened while we lived there that seemed to like that they aligned, do you know what I

mean? They just seem to Yeah. And at one point I had now keep in mind, my husband was at the post office by himself, and flash forward a few probably maybe three years, my husband came home for lunch. He was starting to leave, and there was a caror park across the road, and I said, I'm wonder who that is, because she's staring at the house. I mean, she's not making she's not making any bones about the fact that she's staring at our house. And my husband turns around

and he said, I think that's the lady from the post office. And I said, what do you mean the lady. I thought, even a lady who worked at the post office. And then he said, no, the lady who said she used to live here. And it was just about everything we just discussed from your perspective as the person living in the house, But think about it from her perspective, right right. I mean that I'm

sure sent her aspiringly down a rabbit hole, right right. So he goes on and leaves to go back to work, and I, you know, across the street and I'm like, you know, hi, and she's like, hi, I'm and I said, well, it's nice to meet you. And my husband said that he ran into you at the post office one day, and she said, oh yeah. She said I was just back in town and I wanted to come by and see the house. And I said, well, wait, why don't you come on in and I'll fix

it something to drink, you know, we'll sit and chat. And she starts to cry and she says, I can't. I can't. As much as I would love to, I went through so much there, I can't come in. And I said, I'm really sorry, and she said. It was always a great house. She said, even to the end when my mom passed there from cancer. When we left there, I missed it, but she said, too much happened and I can't go back. And I said, I understand you no longer live there, which we'll get into

that. Yeah, but I have to ask, do you feel any emotional attachment to that home? Yeah? Well it was knowing the story. Now I feel like I am a part of the story, right, do you know what I mean? And I loved it. I loved that house and I raised my kids in that house, and I don't know, I mean, it was one of those things I was ready to go. We were ready to move. We had decided we wanted to be out in the country. But it was a great house. It was a great place to live.

I mean, my kids said they had a great childhood there. I mean, and eventually they knew the story. I wouldn't they get old enough I told them because there was some things I just couldn't keep it a secret anymore. You know, there was too many noises that I couldn't Once they were teenagers, I was like, Okay, I'm not going to tell you. That's a dog again. You know, I'm I'm gonna tell you that's a dog outside. And you know I told them the truth. They understood,

you know. But you know, my oldest son still says, well, yeah, I really miss it there and things like that. So yeah, I mean, it was just a great house. It was a great place to live. I I think I feel the connection because I lived it for almost thirty years. I lived it and I found everything out about this family. Well I'm sure not everything, but there's a lot of details about this family and how some of them still live in this town and how because

haunting is it's so funny. When you think of a haunting, you think of a long time ago, but this one was so fresh, do you know what I mean? It was just so you know, all the emotions connected to it, all the people that were involved, and I mean I met several people who had heard about it, seen it, helped been there. Because you can see the emotion and people when they talk, it makes it not just a distant thing. It makes it like a very personal thing.

And I think that's why I felt that way, because I felt when she said I just can't go in, I could feel, you know, I could just see the pain in her and I understood. So, you know, I think that's why there was a connection there. I don't think it was more about like a needing to you know, like like a house. But you know, I did feel like when we bought it, instantly I loved it, do you know what I mean? I like, we

had looked at several and instantly I was like, this is awesome. And I had to desire to like make a nice and you know, all those things. But I never felt like it was any more than just once I was involved. I was in it, you know once I once I had heard about this child and seeing a family member how they suffer, then I was invested. But no, then then we you know, we decided to

you know, move to southern Indiana and have a house built. And uh, I thought, Okay, we're gonna have the house built and it's not gonna be haunted and there's not gonna be anything. It's gonna be great. There's there's there's no you know, nothing connected to the land. Okay, we didn't think there was anything connected to the land. Okay, building a house from scratch, you know, nothing's happening in it. You're just thinking

it's going to be perfect, you know. So we go to sign the papers to buy the land and uh, the people who are selling as the house said, hey, by the way, you know, there's an Indian mode across the road. By a brain, I think it just kind of seized up for a second because I was like, oh no, no, no, no, And I was like how far are and they're like, oh, right across the road. I just thought, really, are you serious, you know, really, So we come back down and look at

it's right there. Yeah, it's right there. So then I thought, okay, So immediately I'm taking you know, I'm thinking ahead, we're gonna we're gonna be precautionary on this. We're gonna make sure that we don't have any you know, Native American ghosts anywhere, you know. So we get to the point where the belter says, I'm going to start next week. And I had a friend who was going to come and do a blessing around

the yard and he couldn't do it. So I proceeded to look in every book and every you know, they're not sure who built the mounds or who you know, came to live after. So I'm thinking, okay, so I'm just gonna amass all these blessings from all the tribes that are known to be in this area, and I'm just gonna I'm just gonna use everyone I can find. So my husband, who you know, he was all in and the ghost thing at the end, So he was like, Okay, I get it. So I said, you're gonna help me, please save

this whole place so that we don't have a problem here. Okay. So he's like, okay, So we age. He walks around with me and I do all these blessings in north south east west, please give us permission to live here. You know, every tree, every bush, I covered my basis. Okay. Yeah, we get down here and everything's great and we have the house belt and uh. One day, while in the process of the house being built, the builder called me and he said we we

might have a problem. And I said, oh, what's the problem And he said, well, in the back bedroom downstairs, there seems to be a smell. And I'm like, like, what kind of smell? And he's like, I'm thinking that maybe something got between the walls and died, and I'm thinking's like and he's hesitant to tell me, and I'm like, no, what do you mean And he's like, like maybe a mouse or something, and I'm like, well, okay, okay, what this point,

you know, it was just the sub floor. They weren't locking the doors or anything. It was just you know, old doors they used for the entrances until they got our real doors but on, but they weren't even locking those, so you know, people could come in and out. But we live way out, like pretty far out to where we don't have a whole ton of neighbors, and everybody around here owns like twenty acres, forty

acres. You know, it's it's really out here. So he says to me, well, we're not locking the doors because nobody messes with anything. And I'm like, well okay, but okay. So three days later he calls and says that's most completely gone, and I said, so, what do you think it wasn't? He goes, I don't know that. We kind of thought maybe it was just in the room. And I said, what do you mean in the room and he's like, well, just lingering in the room. But it's fine now. So I'm like, okay,

well that's just weird. Okay. So then I'm of course my history with paranormal activity. I'm thinking, what could this be, you know, please tell me this is not a ghost of any sort. So, okay, nothing, that's not a big deal. So we get down here one day, we pull in the drive They were not here working. We were here

to just clean up the yard and stuff. And I look up in the trees at the end of the driveway and there happens to be cherry tomatoes shoved up about seven feet tall in the big pine tree next to the driveway. And it's weird. I had been bringing down bird feeders things like that. I had put a bird feeder in that tree. Well, the bird feeder is on the ground and devastated, it's in pieces, no seed left,

nothing, but these cherry tomatoes are shoved onto these and facts. I took a picture of it because I thought that's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. And my husband's like, maybe somebody don't like cherries in their salad or cherry tomatoes in their sun. And I'm like, and they climbed up in that tree and shoved them onto branch it. There's like three of them, three or four of them up there. Okay, So I start to do research, like, okay, well, is there birds in southern Indiana that will

like dry the seeds out and come back? And oh, you know, I'm just I'm really just trying to figure out what's going on. Okay, So I don't find anything. I asked the neighbor, hang, are you going tomatoes this year? The one the people that live across the road, and he says no. I said, okay, so the people who live behind us, we can only see their property in the winter. We can only see their house in the winter. In the summer, it's like nobody

lives back there. Okay. So I happened to see them and I said, are you growing a garden? They're like no, Okay, that's the only people that are really close to us. So that explanation went out the window. Okay, So I moved the bird feeder, and you know, we go about our business and the house is still being built and it finally

gets done. So we're down here and we're getting our stuff moved. And we had run into U Haul to get the last of our things, you know, the outdoor furniture, the grill, you know, things like that. So we had gotten down here and we were here longer than we thought we would be. Well, you know, it's dark, and people who don't live in the country don't understand dark. But it's like ten kinds of dark. You know, if there's no moon, you're good luck, you're

not. You can't see anything. Soon we start to leave, my husband says he's going to go ahead and go, and he goes in front of me with you haul, and I'm about maybe five minutes behind him. Okay, So I'm down this country road and I'm next to an area where there's a creek on the left side of the road. Well, this creek is when I say, way down into the creek bed, I mean, the sides are like six feet tall. Okay. So I'm kind of going slow because I'm not used to this road at all, and I'm kind of I'm

definitely not going to speed limit. I may have been going twenty five thirty maybe, and all of a sudden I had my window down about halfway and all of a sudden, all of a sudden, something roars the only may I can describe it, roars, blows huffs in my window behind me. So imagine the bar, you know, between the front doors and the back doors. It had to have been right there. Now, ken in mind, I saw nothing as I was coming around the bend of this road down

next to this creek. I saw nothing. But when this thing roared in my window, it roared. It was so loud and there was so much air. They came into the car that it blew my hair and it made my hair wet, and I screamed. I was like, so they didn't thinking, Okay, don't crash. So I'm trying not to veer off there because my reaction was to turn the wheel to the right. So I'm trying not to over you know, oversteer, and I'm trying to roll my window

up at the same time because that's gonna save me. I don't know. I don't know what I was thinking, but in my mind I thought, what the frick was there? Because I can't at that point, I'm like, look, you know, looks that a bit? What that made my hair wet, like spit wet and blew my hair like that? I just don't know, And because at first I would. It was one of those things that literally I was so shocked the first say, I don't even remember driving like for a while, do you know what I mean, I just

because my brain was so busy trying to think. I don't know. Yeah, but it's not human mind. I was raised more in the country. My parents were from the country. I was raised around all kinds of being outside. Okay, So the whole time, you know, your brain's going through like computer open tabs, this, what is this? Was it? This? Was it? A bird? Was it a deer? Was it? You know? Because nothing, I mean, the war deafened me.

And to spit in my hair. I just thought to myself, what so, you know, I'm in moving and you know, when you move, it's the most exhausting thing. I don't know. And we had been in house for all those years, you know, so we had had an auction, we were downsizing. You know. I was just like really whooped, but I wasn't whooped enough to imagine spit in my hair. So I mean, nothing logically, I mean, in my brain, nothing logically came to

mind. But then, you know, I was raised in the era of in search of you know, I had always that had always been a complete possibility to me. Like if you were born before nineteen ninety and you have spent more than thirty minutes in a dark wooded area at night time. Bigfoot has crossed your mind. I don't care who you are, Yes, yes,

right right. You can say that it didn't put it, but you know so, I mean, but see of all, okay, And now that this has happened, and I've listened to TV shows and red books, you know, I've never had anybody say I saw nothing, because I mean when it happened, I looked in my rear view and I looked in the side mirror and there was nothing. But I mean, it's pitch black, so I mean I wasn't slamon on my brakes because I was getting the heck out, you know what I mean. I wasn't like I wasn't someone down

on. I was just making sure I didn't drive off the road. But I mean, I've never heard anybody say they saw nothing. But then it was for screaming in my car window, sewing my mind. I think, did I almost hit it? Did I make it mad because I ran over its foot? I don't know, I don't know, but I saw nothing. I saw nothing. Now, I didn't look in the other mirror, though I didn't look at my passioner mirror and I obviously didn't turn the look

turn around the work. That would have been one of those situations where I don't know what that was and I don't want to know what that was, right, right, But this guess if you drew a straight line from my house to there, it's about three miles, so it's not overly far, it's not really far, so we get moved in. What's odd? And I will say this referring back to the it felt empty here, like like almost felt weirdly empty, like weirdly lonely like because there was nothing here.

It was almost profound how obvious it was that there was nothing here in this house, in this space. And it was almost like a confirmation to me that the other place was so busy because this place was so inside not it wasn't you know what I mean? It all is fine, Yeah, I know exactly. I'm I'm having a moment because uh yeah, that's something I've

spent a little bit of time thinking about. People don't realize the energy that houses have, right, And then it was there all the time, Yeah, because I remember getting here and getting everything done and sitting at the table and thinking it's weird, it's and it's and that's a odd thing to say, but it's weird to be in a space where there's literally nothing else. But then at that moment, I thought, well, I guess this aging worked because I feel nothing, you know what I mean. I don't feel

like there's someone in this room with me. I don't look like there's someone upstairs. I just feel like it's me. And it was hard to digest for a little while. It was honestly odd, but I had to get used to it. I yeah, I'd imagine, yes, yes, yes, But anyway back to here. So we're at the new place and the war has happened, and I have told my husband and we're back at square one because nothing has happened to him. Okay, he's a believer once it

happened to him, and I get that. I totally get that, super supportive, awesome husband won't believe unless it happens to that. So the next thing that happens was I decide, I noticed that there's bluebirds. So I'm thinking, okay, do some research what a bluebird's eat. I had already had. I had big bird feeders outside and some in the front in the pine trees. But I thought well, bluebirds will only eat after I did my research, they'll only eat the sueycakes that are munworms. So I get

a new big shepherd took. And by this time I had learned about raccoons and how raccoons will literally mess with everything you own. Okay, so I took. Now I know, and I'm finding the raccoons and this giant metal shepherd took. I take this suitcake and I literally zip tie it to the pole, three big zip ties. This raccoon is not going to take off with this. He's not having this one. So put it out so excited.

The next day, I'm just gonna wait and see what happens. And the next morning, my husband leaves early for work and I get up and make my coffee and sit down and think, okay for the blue bird stick up? Yeah, And I look out the window and it's gone. And I need the pole, the suit cake, the suitcake feeder, the whole thing just gone gone. So I call my husband and I said, hey, what did you do with that bird we'll put out yesterday? And he

goes, what do you mean? And I said, the suycake, you know, feeder thing, and he goes, well, the Raccons probably took it. I said, the whole pole, and he goes, what do you mean the whole pole? And I said, the entire thing is missing, the pole, the sueycake, seweer feeder, the zip ties, it's all gone. And he's like, well, babe, I don't know. And I'm like, well, okay, and you know the natural reaction would be someone took it. Okay, well maybe ten feet from it is the

bigger, you know, more metal. You know, someone was here to steal the metal, they would have taken the one that was like five paces away from it, that has even more metal than the one that they took. So that didn't you know, that explanation did not drive. Okay. Plus, it's like I said, we live out in the middle of nowhere and when it's dark and dark, so you know, I don't see how anybody would have even possibly even seen it from the road. Yeah, scrap

metal thieves at night, Yeah they're not doing that. And your my brain goes to living in town. But that's what you do. You try to solve the puzzle. Right, So I get on the internet and I start looking and every time I look, what what steal a bird? Feeder and the pole bear bear bear bear. There's no there's no other suggestion, nothing, there's nothing, and I'm like, what is okay? We do not have bears, So I'm really not sure what to think about this, you

know, so I perceive the look. I mean, I'm walking every day because now I'm there's part of me that's kind of mad, something like I really like that, you know, really that was that was a nice shepard suck. You know, I'm gonna find it. So in mind, I'm thinking, well, I'm just gonna find it. It's gonna be you know, drugs somewhere. No, it's heavy. I mean it's heavy, so you know, is there going to be a giant raccoon hooked to it? I don't know, but I'm looking. So I keep looking and I keep

looking. It has never been found, never found it. Two years, I've never found it. So mean, so that happens. Then we I have an outdoor cat. His name is Butters. And one night I go out front of feed Butters and Butters is out by the road and he's staring at something, and I'm thinking, okay, so I start yelling Butters, Butters, and he's not looking. Now This cat is loyal to me, almost like a dog. He's not your typical cat. He's with me all

the time. Okay. So I am yelling at this cat and he's ignoring me. He's just like in a trance. So he's looking at something beyond the pine trees. It's dark outside. I see nothing. Okay. So my husband steps out and he says, what's wrong? And I said, something's wrong with Butters? And he said, did you call him? And I'm like, yeah, I called him. He's just sitting there and you know, like he doesn't hear me. Okay, So I said, I'm gonna go get him. Well, I have a stick next to the front

door that's like I take when I take walks and stuff. And so I'm like, grab the stick, and my husband goes where you're going, I'm like to get Butters. So I walk out there to get him, and I'm like, Butters, Butters, and I'm thinking, is he having a cat stroke or something. He's not looking at me, and I can't figure out why he's not looking. He's like, froze it. He's not even

moving, He's not he's not flinching. And I'm looking at him and I'm like Butters, and the last time I said Butters, I hear this growl it and it starts to get louder and it starts to like vibrate my insides and I'm kind of paralyzed for a minute. And then I'm thinking, I need to move, I need to go, I need to move. And from the point I'm hearing what's happening, that's when I asking me what's happening, and I'm thinking, should I breach down and pick up the cat?

And I decided to touch him with that stick and it was like when I touched him with that stick, I like woke him up from whatever I don't know trance he was in. I'm not really sure, but when I touched him, the growl got even louder. And I'm still now I'm looking and

I see nothing. I am saying absolutely nothing, And about that time, I turn and I run, and Butters is running with me because now he's like not in his strands anymore, and my husband yelling what's happening, And I'm like what, So I just literally run straight into the house and I shut the door, and he's like, what happened? And I said, I don't I'm really not sure, but I said something was growling so low and so deep that it was making my insides move. And he said,

well, what wasn't I was like, I didn't see anything. I couldn't see anything in the dark. So he's like, well, bab and I'm like, he said, well, what kind of animals do you think it was? And I said, I'm not sure it was an animal, and he was just looking at me like what do you mean you don't think it was an animal? And I said, I don't know. I just don't know. So, you know, at this point, I'm still like, is this what is happened? You know, because you're I'm still trying to

grass all these things, you know, like what is the explanation? Where is the dot to dot that connects all these things? You know? So it was just like constant little odd things. I was feeding the birds up front, and I have this like it's an old like antique. It used to be a bird bath, but it doesn't hold water anymore, so I use it for like a platform bird feeder. Okay, it's kind of like

a it's a bowl in the middle. And what I would do is it had I had made drain holes, but I would put rocks over it to the seed wouldn't fall down in the holes. One day I got out there and I thought, well, the rocks are all moved. That's weird. So I go out and i'd go to pick up this top rock and a

bird flies out of it. What a bird? So what had happened was there was a cavity like a little cave made out of rocks that had been moved, you know, they had been moved from you know, spread around in this feeder to push to one side to When I went to pick up the top rock to redistribute the rocks, a bird flew out of it, and it startled me so bad that I squealed, and I thought, Okay, that's odd. Why was there a bird under there? Like how could

bird have gotten under there? But when I looked up, the bird feeder was completely empty. And that had happened like overnight, Like there was rocks taken and a bird was encased in this rock. Yes, yes, inside these rocks. Okay, So I thought, this is the freakiest thing. But it had to be a fluke. And I don't know how that's in my mind. I don't know how I justified that. I don't know how

that would have occurred. But not only did it happen that time, it happened one more time, and it happened again when the bird feeder had had been emptied overnight and the rocks were on top of this bird. Now both times they were like small sparrows. Okay, So I started to do research. Is there any Midwestern birds that will roost in rocks? No? My research over and over and over. No shore birds, water birds, No,

Midwestern birds do not roost under rocks. See what I mean? It just like it was things that people had not unless it's people have never talked about it because they thought I was you know, they think they're crazy too. I'm thinking, how so in my mind, bird the bird, I have a think about versus the bird was the birds were like physically trapped yeh huh until you released them in stacks of rocks. I mean, who who could do that? What? What could do that? Okay? So my

thought process is what could do that? Something that stuns its prey? Okay? Okay, yeah, okay. And my second thought process is, okay, so the the tomatoes in the tree, the bird feed was gone, Okay, the bird seed is gone and the bird gets left. Okay, so are they thinking that I just like should be exchange. It's like the sign exchange. It's just like if I'm going to take your bird seed, I'm going to give you a bird. I don't understand. I don't know

unless Butters has learned how to stack rocks. I want to see it. I want to be able to see it then. But see at that point, I'm like, is this like is this Maybe it's gonna sound crazy, but in my mind thing is this like paranormal activity. That's what I've tried to explain to people is there's so many cases where people think that their property

is haunted because of the things that happen. Right. I mean, I think that I'm a pretty logical person and I will never take anything for face value without trying to debunk or figure it out or whatever I have to do. But I'm never going to be like, I know what that is, because the universe is too big for me to go I know what that is. And you sent me a picture of the tomatoes. They are onto the

branches. They're not just laying in the fork of a tree. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, they're skewered on there like it's so intentional and not even at the tip of the branch. They're pushed down on there. No, yes they are, And I mean I don't I just have to take your word for it. You know, you were talking about how high up in the tree this was, but the

photograph is from a vantage point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And at that point, I'm not thinking I should take a picture of this from every perspective because I wasn't looking at it because at that point I'm still like, what is happening. There's like I'm gonna need all this right right, And I know I haven't lived down in the country for a while, but is this normal? No, tomatoes and trees are not normal, I promise. But I used to have a really big sycamore tree in my backyard that there

was my grandparents had. Half the yard was a garden, okay, like a huge garden, because there are country folks that moved to the city, like the Beverly Hillbilly and so like my grandpa fought with squirrels every year about the tomatoes. And I have never seen a tomato and in a tree, just saying no, I mean it was so obvious. It was right. There's like, I don't know, twenty some pine trees in the front yard and some of them are giant, and it was the one right at the

beginning of the driveway where the bird feeder was. Yes, So the reason I struggle with all this, and I know that everybody who has experiences by no means reports them, but I feel like the things that have happened to us have not been the typical at all. Like I've never heard anybody have like roared in the car window, or the tomatoes in the tree or bird trapped. It's never anything that's like normal, if that's in the parameter of

normal, you know. But so I've heard at least one story where somebody heard something something assumed to be a bigfoot scream or roar as they were driving down the road, not in the window to the point of where actually wet the back of their hair any thing. But you have heard of someone having that experience of a bigfoot yelling at a car as it drove by, basically gotcha. And I've heard of sticks being thrown at cars as they drive by.

I've actually seen the damage of the tree limb that was thrown at a car before. Oh wow, okay, tomatoes and tree never heard it, uh words, under rocks, under rocks, never heard it. No, but the connection to the bird seed is very interesting. Yeah, that it's almost always involved with the birds. Yeah, I don't know. So the one night my cat, Butters, we have a he's a one person kind of cat. He was he was a street cat who ended up at our house and I ended up taking care of him, and he he likes my

husband, but he just like he doesn't love my husband. So my husband always sees that Butters only loves me. And when we are outside and Butters is around us, Butters will kind of walk way around him and come over to me, and my husband will go Butters like, Butters, why don't

you like me? You know? So one night I'm outside and I'm feeding Butters, and I go to the other end of the porch and I hear, in a really loud, really deep voice, Blotters, And I'm thinking, all funny, I cannot believe he startled me like that, you know, while I was out of here being the cat. And I walked to the door and I look in the window of the door and he's sitting at the kitchen table. So basically I turn around, look at butters, and

butters its frozen in place, like did you hear that? So when I opened the door and I said, did you just say butters? And he said no. And I said, okay, Siria, you know you're messing with me and he said, no, Babe, I didn't. I didn't. I wouldn't do that to you in the darkens Carrea. So now I'm thinking, okay, could be paranormal end but it was. It was like it mimicked my husband doing that. Yeah. Yeah, So that's when I thought, Okay, maybe this isn't. I don't know, but you know,

I'm still I'm still not saying I'm not saying what it is. You know, I'm not saying it's a big fight. I'm not saying it's ghost. I'm just saying that freaked me out. It really like chilled me to my core because I thought that was really close and I don't understand what exactly

that was, but I know it said butters. So okay, So then we get to the point where I'm questioning, you know, everything, I'm here, my husband's at work, a lot and a lot of times if I hear something, I only hear it you know me, or you know I'm here by myself. Well, this last January, I was outside taking walk, Butters with me, always with me, and we get down to the woodline where I can see the neighbor's house behind us. You know,

I've got a clear shot because no leaves in sight. And it was a warm day, and I thought, well, I'll get out and take a walk. Two huge, I mean two really loud wood knocks like startled me to the point where I jumped, like, here in my nobody's home. It's just me. The neighbors are not home. But it was too I guess what they call power knox. And it was was loud, like close enough to where I think I could have pinpointed where it was on the other

side going up the hill from my neighbor's house. So right about the time that I start to think, okay, I should probably just turn around and start walking, I get this whiff of the smell and it was really strong, I mean just really really like oh that steaks, you know. And about the time then I smell it, I look down at Butters and he has gotten between me and the woods. And he starts to like make this weird cat growl like this, you know, like when they're about to find

another cat growl. And I've never heard him do that before, so he definitely knew that something was up, because when that smell hit me, he definitely was like, well, that's that's strange. And then I just proceeded to turn around and come back to the house because I thought, I don't know that I need to be standing out, and since I'm home by myself, you know, I don't think I need to be on here. But

the only time I've ever seen anything, I have seen it. I can say that for I'm ninety eight point nine nine versut a positive that what I saw was a big foot, and it was last spring. It was probably, if not a full moon, close to full moon now, it was early enough spring to like I said, I can see the neighbor's house and it's about now there's a ravine between us, but straight shop looking at their house, it's about i'd say one hundred and ten yards one hundred and twenty

yards tops. They have a barn, but it's like their house, and then a mercury vapor light and then their bar Okay. So I had gone upstairs to get ready for bed, and I was what I do, and I think, because I live here, I just want to see what's outside, what kind of wildlife fox, you know, deer or whatever. And when the moon is bright, you can really see, you know, what's out there. And I looked out the window and I had the light off in the house, in the room, because I thought, well, if

I leave the light off in the room, I can see better. It doesn't interfere with me being able to see what's outside. And all of a sudden, the under this mercury vapor light, I saw a humongous shape. And when I say humongous shape, I the top of its head was like almost to where their gutter on their eve hung down. So in my mind

I'm thinking, well, who is that? I mean, because I've seen them out in their yard, you know, when they're out, and in my mind, I'm thinking they're just not that big a people, you know. So my brain is like looking at this giant shape and trying to figure out if it's some kind of shadow, Like the mercury vapor light is making someone's shadow look too big, you know, and it's kind of standing still, and I'm thinking, Okay, well, maybe someone's on the other side

of it. It's casting a weird shadow. So I keep watching it, and I've probably only watched it for like like one one thousand, two, one thousand and three, one thousand, and then all of a sudden, it turns and begins to run into the woods. As I'm staring at him, like who is that? Because your brain automatically goes to who is that? Not? And then I'm thinking, is that someone peeping in their windows?

You know what I mean? So as I'm thinking in my brain who is that, I realize that this person or what I initially think, well, who is this person is running at full speed and does not have a flashlight and is covering because literally, I would say, ten feet from their house the woods the woods start, or at least the rough ground where the

woods you know are right there, starts. So this person, I mean, I think if I ran that fast in the woods in the dark, even if the moon was out, I would probably hit a tree, or they would run into something, or they would fall. But this person not a person now I know it wasn't a person is running at full speed, but literally it covers this distance where I can see it in four seconds, and I'm just dumbfounded, and I'm like, well, it didn't see me,

did it? Because I think that, But but I'm thinking, oh my gosh, I saw it, And that's when it clicks in my head. I saw it. I saw it. And then the next conundrum that came to my brain was, I can't tell them they probably already know. I know what I don't I I don't know. I would I would lean on the side of if they do, they're blissfully unaware and that and and that they're making excuses like I did at the house. Yeah, you know what I mean, like I did all the years when I was trying to

make sure I didn't seem crazy because they have never said anything. Like at one point my husband made a little joke in front of them and they they were not going there, and they were like, oh yeah really, And I thought, Okay, that's it. They don't know or they don't want to know, or are they just if they ignore it they don't have to believe. Does that make sense? Yeah? I mean, because I've played out that scenario in my head a few times talking to people, and you

know, as a former investigator into this phenomenon. There's a difference between like going out and you know, researching a property or something and then loading up in the car and going home. But if you lived at the location where these things are like coming up and messing around like that would be a lot to deal with. Yeah, I'm not sure how I would handle it personally. For the fact I thought, is it looking was it looking in the

windows? Does it look at the windows here? I mean probably so not to not to do that, but I mean, right, that's right. I mean it's interesting that as soon as you saw it, your brain went to who and not what? Right, because I think that's that whole living in town mentality because I was raised in the country and then all those years of living in town and literally if you saw someone in town looking in someone window, in someone's window, it's a duke or it's a person, Yeah,

you didn't think that's not a person. So that immediately I was like, that doesn't look like the shape of the neighbor. Do you know what I mean? Is there? Do they have company? Why? You know? Because your brain and it's so funny and for seconds, how many questions you can ask your own self, not just how many questions you can ask yourself, but also how many questions you can answer in that four seconds of time. Right, For instance, it's a logical answer that's not my neighbor.

That is much too big to be my neighbor. Right, right, which direction did it run in? Like? What in that? Now there's one house in the direction that's headed in, but those people own like thirty acres. So literally, I mean there's houses out here dotted, but there's so much play, there's so many places that it could be that nobody would even know. I mean you said that there's a ravine between the properties,

yes, and like I mean where I come from. They like to use geographical features like that to sneak around people's properties, right, and even at the back of our property that where that goes into that ravine. I feel like it wouldn't be that hard to observe any of us doing anything that we're doing if it's on its belly and it's coming up that ravine, do you know what I mean? It wouldn't be that hard to keep an eye on anything or what people are doing just from that perspective. So I assume after

this event happened. You told your husband yes, and what was his reaction. I believe you saw what you saw, like I said, super supportive. But it's gonna something's gonna have to happen. Yes, And then you know two other three other times we've been gifted with odd things, and one was just this week. Really yeah, first thing that we got gifted was in the back there's an old, old barn and I decided to leave it and kind of put an area by it where we had the fire pit and

things like that. Well, they put you know, timbers around, you know, and they put some gravel down and things like that. Well, the first thing that we were gifted was a really it's like a tiny, it's like as big as my thumb doll. And it was laying on the landscape timbers last summer after the guys finished that work. A doll. A doll. Now you're talking a doll that looks like it's been in the woods for like I don't know how long. It's got like a lot of hair,

but it was just like covered in mud. So I asked when the guys came back to do some more work, I said, hey, did you find the doll in the yard and put it and the guy was like no. I was like, okay, checking because it was laying back there, and he goes, no, I don't remember seeing any doll when we were finishing up your work back there. Okay, So I saved the doll.

And then fast forward, I'm taking a walk back there and I find a putty knife and it's the kind then has a little little groove cut out of the side, and I bring it up front and my husband comes home and I said, did you lose a putty knife? And he goes, no, I don't have one like that. And I said really, and he said yeah, where did you find it? And I said back there buying a barn and he said, no, that's not mine. I have never seen that one before. He said, do you think the guy has

left it? And I'm like, well, they didn't do anything with putty, so I'm not really thinking that they would have. But of course when they came back, I said, I have you guys the shores and he was like, no, it doesn't belong to us. So just this week I was back there in the same area, you know, by the fire pits, and we haven't even had a fire it's been so the weather's been

so weird and it's been so rainy. We haven't had a fire pit or anything yet the share and I looked down and there's a tiny spoon, so I'm talking like a like a kid's spoon or on a baby spoon, upside down on the gravel. And I pick it up and look at it and it's not familiar. It's not one of our spoons. I've never seen them before. But it's it's bent. I mean, it looks like it's been run over by like sixteen cars, and it's filthy, and everything that you're

finding is back in the same general area. Yes, yes, And now because I'm thinking to myself, if this is if that was a if it's a gifting situation, I don't know why these things have showed up. When they've showed up. It wasn't like they you know, this week, Like I said, we haven't had a fire pit. There's been no like leftover or food left or it's not like there's been anything back there to get the

gift for, do you know what I mean? Yeah, So they've just shown up kind of for no reason, or at least I'm not understanding the reason or I don't know the reason, but that this week, just this week is when this book showed up and I did send a picture of it to my husband and I said, hey, this showed up back here, and his response was, that's weird. I often wonder if we're just assuming

that they're responsible and it's I don't know a raccoon doing this. In my mind, I'm like, okay, we'll say it's a crow, right, Yeah, I know they've been known to carry stuff around, you know, so I think, well, I'm gonna so I've purposely, you know, started after the pudding knife, which was kind of large for a crow.

But I thought, well, I'll feed them in a certain spot. Well, from what I've read, if you get gifted from a crow, they will gift you where you feed them, which is not anywhere close to where. Yeah, I mean, I'm reluctant to use the word gifting. Like crows will take stuff that they want and they'll go to a place where they're being fed and they'll drop that so they can eat and fly off without it,

right right, we have oh I see accidental gifting. Yeah, I mean we feed birds in our front yard and we have a bird bath in our front yard and there's these crows, and there's just one in particular that we have a little seashell in the bird bath. And this crow has been trying to get the seashell for a year and it's just too big formed of pick. He can't do it, but he'll get it out of the bird bath and into the yard. And I mean I have stood at the window

and watched him do this, but he wants that seashell so bad. My point was, I just wonder that, Okay, they're leaving these things sometimes. I wonder if they do that just to watch your reaction when you find it, and to see if you'll notice it and if you'll take it, what you'll do. I gotcha, because even my husband said, well, now what are we supposed to do with the spoon? And I was like, I don't know. I mean, he's like, well, do they get offended if you don't take it in the house, And I'm like,

I don't. The native belief around here was if you find something in the woods, you leave it in the woods because it doesn't belong to you, and that if you actually take it in the house, that makes them mad. I didn't just so you know, I haven't taken anything these things in the house because you know, I'm still thinking is some of this one thing and some of us because I'm still I still like, there's so many coincidences

that I've experienced, and I don't know. I think, is it some things are just because I'm observant, or is it just the universe says now that you know that these things are possible, anything is possible. Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes perfect sense. So people who had never had an like, had never had an experience, have never maybe made the connection us that thought process. I don't know, but I just think maybe some people like my neighbors would be like, well, okay, there's a

doll, throw it away. I don't I don't know. I don't know if because the realm of possibility that I've seen what's possible, that I can grasp that the obvious is not the obvious. Well, for sure. It makes you look at the world entirely different, right right, you ask questions. That's I think that's the key, Yes, because you can't The assumption is if it's not obvious to you, then maybe you just don't think in

the same way that other people do. I mean most people you know would for instance, with the bird feeder, the millworm incident where they took the entire thing, most people probably aren't going to research it out and see, Okay, well what could have taken that, what is known to take that? What could it possibly be? Like, most people are gonna be like, somebody stole my bird feeder. Can you believe that? And at first I thought, well, I'm sure it's possibility, and I probably in town

would have assumed someone just took it. Well, sure, because it happened. It happened. We lived in town. Things disappeared. Yeah, so that would have just been like some fuh took my bird feeder. We had a little naked concrete baby in a bird bath in the backyard and somebody came into our backyard and stole it. What do you need a little concrete, nked baby for. Well, somebody must have really needed it, really really

needed it. Yeah. But out in the country where people will shoot you, yeah, where people have dogs that live outside, they don't really go snooping around people's property at night. No, And everywhere around here that there's a gate or a pole or you know, the universal I've sprayed at purple. That that means, yeah, yeah, don't even look this direction, yes, yeah, to see the purple, don't come in Yeah, And

everybody does that down here, everybody. So no, I I really don't think and see, you know, the going back to the whole builder thing when he said it's stuck in here. You know, when we first got the property, the barn had the worst funk, and it's it was like a smell I could not even approach. It wasn't like, oh that kind of smells like this, or kind of smells like that, but it had

the weirdest smell. When the builder called, I think something died in here, I'm like, well, uh, you know, but anything could have come in the house. Sure, sure, So you know, my thought process was okay, well it was a stinky home with me and I don't know what I was thinking. But when it went away that fast, he said, if it was something died, that had died, the smell wouldn't

have gone away that fast. Well, then after that, something in the back of my brain thought, maybe we should go ahead and put a lock on those doors, even if they're not the doors that are going to be on there for good. How about we just lock them and that way, if it is a stinky homeless plant, they're not going to be in here when nobody's here. It's just that mentality of you know, trying to solve the problem. You coming from, you know, more of a city type

area and everything. That's where your mind goes right, right, And maybe it was just something died. You know, that's the thing. There's something done in the world. You're telling me because they left it. They left it. Yeah, no, I mean just a quick rundown. I mean, obviously there was bigfoot living in that barn and then you built a house and that pissed them off. But now they didn't know you, so they're more exciting. So they're bringing you gifts as a peace office. Here's a

doll. Baby's dirty. You know. I was really hungry and I just wanted to Yeah, we were going to eat butters. But he's okay. You know, we like them, We likes flutters. I mean, that's just what I I that's my assumption. That's what I would you read everything. I mean, I guess I'm lucky that And you know, I wasn't scared at the old house. I'm not scared here. You know. This is our dream house, though, and if anything starts to go sideways,

they're not winning. I'm just going to tell you that right now. I will do whatever I have to do in my power, but we will not be going. So it's good. I guess I'm not scared to be here. Well, let's just round out the trifecta. Have you seen any strange lights in the sky? Yes, of course you have now, only once, only once, and I have to say that it wasn't okay where I

told you. The ravine behind the houses we have ports on the back, and we were sitting out there one night and literally it looked like pointing straight up into the sky. I mean, not quite round like the bat signal. It was more oval shaped, but it literally looked like someone had a really powerful flashlight. But it shone all the way above the trees and into the sky, oval shaped from the ground ups, from the ground up. And in my mind I'm thinking, well, if someone's back there, that

is why a heck of a flashlight. And I look at her husband and I said, do you see that? He said, yeah, I see that. He said, do you think that that's someone with a really powerful light? Over on the other property, and I said, I don't know, but that is a dang good light. And just about the time that I said it, it like as fast as you could see it go,

it like left. And when I say it left, like the oval part of the top of it, you know, like where I thought the light ended literally shot to the left to the point where you couldn't see where it went. Could you see a light beam coming up from the ground. No, okay, So it wasn't like the light was coming through the trees right right, So it wasn't like I could see the origin of where this oval

light was coming from. But it was definitely right at the top of the trees, right above the top of the trees, which are not small, and I could not see where it was coming from. So that's why I thought maybe it was oval shaped, because I thought, if it's coming from the property behind us and they're shining it this way, then we're only seeing the oval part, right. But when it shot off like that, I was just like, what is that? And my husband looks at me and

he was like, hey, you saw that. I saw that and I was like, yeah, I saw that, and he said, what was that? And I said, I don't know, but that's the only thing we've ever seen, and I don't that it's out of the realm of possibility that somehow somebody had a really good light the people who live way behind us shining at this in this direction. It was really like the way, the fastness that it left or that they moved, it was kind of incredible.

And like I said, I couldn't see the beam coming through the trees. I could only see the like the end of it, the oval part of it. Right, It's just so weird to me. I'm desperately trying to figure out the connection. And like you said, it could just be once that door's opened, you start noticing other things. But it's just fascinating to me how just myself for instance, and many people that I have talked to,

it's never just one thing. No, No, it's like once they've seen or experienced one thing, then how many times have they said, yeah, I've I've experienced that too. And you know, maybe it's just, hey, once we've unlocked that ability we can, or once we've acknowledged that something is possible, than anything else is possible, you are going to have to keep in contact. I definitely will. I definitely will. I have a feeling we're going to have a lot more conversations. I think so too.

I think so too. Yeah, I don't think it's over by any means. Thank you for coming on and sharing everything well. Thank you so much for having me on. It's been awesome. I'm going to be thinking about this one for a long time, a lot to think about, a lot to think about. Thank you so much. And if you've had your own encounter with Bigfoot, dog man, aliens, UFOs, ghosts, anything at all that you can't explain, send me an email at Bigfoot Crossroads at

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