Big Red Rage - Warner Talks Murray Extension

Slash podcasts. The Reds Rising Guard, temperaturizing vision, flurring rage taking over. Here's Paul Calvc. I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee, if it doesn't get any better than that, horn, unleash the far Well. We certainly know who's putting the big into Big Red Rage tonight, the guy holding the big bag, the guy shouldering the big expectations to who much is again? Much is required? I think I've heard that somewhere before.

Ron Boefley, I think I have as well, Polly, Yes, yes, maybe on Sundays. This is the Kyler Murray Big Red Contract edition, all presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford. Shortly it'll be starring Kurt Warner, who knows a thing or two about the physician. Can't wait to get Kurt's thoughts on all of this. That was a great get there, Polly, Well, very well done by our Jim al mondro Ron Wolfley. Your reaction when earlier today I believe you were maybe even on the air

when this news came down. If you weren't, you spent a good four hours talking about it. No exactly, Polly, it was. It came down just before we actually hit the air, Polly, And a lot of relief actually, because once again this whole thing could have gotten really, really bad. The fact they got it done even before you got

close to training camp, Pauly. I mean I thought maybe the twenty fifth, maybe Monday, after a weekend, right maybe the twenty six, Pauly, when they were actually going to report right up to the deadline, and that was not the case. So pleasantly surprised that they got this deal done. I believe it was about one thirty this morning, and now you know what you can move forward. So what

is it? A two hundred thirty million dollar extension five years, maybe a two thirty point five so you're just ahead of Deshaun Watson in the annual compensation forty six point one million per year locked up through twenty twenty eight. Depending on what you believe. Sports Illustrated says it's about one hundred and five million guaranteed one hundred and sixty two million guaranteed for injury. Either way, it's the biggest

deal in Arizona Cardinals history. And earlier today, Cliff Kingsbury on the Dave Pass Podcast just talking about, you know what a generational talent and an all time contract. He's going to continue to get better. The contract deal I feel really good about. He's our future here. I mean the talent I have said it since I got here is generational. Each year you look at the statue, you look at any wins, anything, it's gotten dramatically better. And

that's what I've been really excited about. I knew when we drafted him he had a chance to be one of the top guys in the league. I think he's proven that. I mean, kids come in Rookie of the Year, back to back Pro Bowls. I think he takes criticism, which we all do. I think some of his is unfair for some reasons I won't get into here, but we know what he brings, and every Sunday we line up with him as quarterback, we have a real chance to win any game. You know what, Pauli, The Cardinals

officially have their franchise quarterback party. I mean, whether I want to call him a franchise quarterback or not, PAULI, they officially have their franchise as quarterback. And I love the fact that Cliff Kingsbury acknowledged right in the beginning of that clip that Kyler Murray is only going to get better, because that's what I believe. I believe he is only going to continue to mature as a man and mature as a player. Well, we've seen two Pro

Bowls in his first three years, not too bad. And look, we've seen defensive coordinators lose a lot of sleep. I mean, if you think about what he presents, from the athleticism to the armed talent to the accuracy, you still think of the potential in the upside, you understand why they've locked him up through two twenty eight. Intriguing. A little comment there from Cliff Kingsbury though just maybe on some unfair or untoward criticism when it comes to Kyler Murray.

That was intriguing. In fact, it's a really good Listen to Dave Pash podcast. You got to check it out wherever you get your podcasts and follow along on Twitter app Haash Pod. And then here's the head coach defending Kyler and some of the aspects of his game on and off the field with Dave. Everybody's going to have their their own opinion. But the kid came to the worst team in football and the worst offense by far.

You know that that had occurred in a long time in this league, and all he's done has improved every year. He's improved the organization, he's improved the team. And because he doesn't smile and wave at the camera every day, all of a sudden, he's this this villain and never got in trouble off the field. You've never heard one bad thing about him off the field, negative towards any person in the building. And so at times I think there's certain aspects to him that that draw that criticism.

But we're thrilled the progress he's made and where the thing's head and I know he's excited about this upcoming season. You know, as Justin Pugh said on a recent addition to the pash Pot quote, we've all seen what this looks like without Kyler Murray, and nobody wants that again. Because Cliff Kingsbury is definitely right. Twenty eighteen, they weren't just thirty second in the NFL and offense, they were

historically bad so. And as he also told Davey said, hey, look at Kyler's best when he is at his best. I don't know who's better in this league. You think about that, Polly, I know, man, seriously, this is something that we've had many, many conversations about Kyler Murray and the talent of Kyler Murray. When you think of his arm talent alone, he's right there with the best in the league. When you think about his legs, his ability to run the ball, he's right there with Lamar Jackson,

one of the best in the league. Now you put those two things together right there, that's incredible from a talent perspective, Paul, I'm not talking about success at the quarterback position, which he's had an awful lot of, by the way, Okay, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about from a talent perspective, a skill set perspective. He's a combination of Pat Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. He is now. He doesn't have the stature the build of those guys, but his skills set is just like that,

a combination of the two. You can't tell me that. The LA Rams just over a year ago, right last offseason, when they pulled the massive deal for Matthew Stafford said we better keep pace in our own division. Not long after, the San Francisco forty nine ers traded away three first round picks for Trey Lance. They wanted themselves a future of football type athlete and quarterback. It's just it's something where he resets that bar and what the opponents are thinking.

You know, It's what Larry fitzher Old said last week in the NFL Network. He's a guy that everyone around the league has to prepare differently for. Yes, and Larry also said, loosely quoting, there's nobody in the game as talented, that as as diverse and array of abilities in terms of that athleticism, ability to throw the ball, etc. But well, what is the charter for Kyler Murray. Now, I mean, the expectation isn't just to be a great quarterback. You

have to be a great face of the franchise. You have to be a great leader, and in my opinion, you have to be a big part of the culture going Yeah, Paul, I heard you saying that earlier today, and you are so right on the money in regard to that, He's got to be the culture of the Arizona Cardinals going forward. That means, PAULI, he's got to accept that responsibility. And that's one of the big things too.

That is one of the big stories about Kyler Murray and the signing of the extension today, the fact that the Arizona Cardinals are not going to go into a training camp with this as a story, Paul, because that could have been really, really nasty. That could have been bad. And you know, a Cliff Kingsbury actually got his wish. He wanted Kyler Murray to be signed from day one, going into training camp when they all were supposed to report.

He wanted Kyler Murray there. And that is going to happen, Paul. Days in advance, as a matter of fact, that's going to happen. I think that's a big deal. And you know what, Look, we can all look at this date and it kind of makes sense because quarterbacks reported today for the Arizona Cardinals, so they sync it up with

this state. Okay, I get it, But fun the agent has been clamoring for this since basically day two of the offseason, right, and we got the Tolstoy length manifesto on all caps, and we got the scrubbing of the social media and a lot of that's just the process of, you know, negotiating a contract in twenty twenty two. I get it. The agents, the bad cop, the quarterbacks of the good guy. I get all that. But the fact that the Cardinals waited this long, I think there was

more to it than that. For example, I think they wanted to demonstrate to the agent and any future agents trying to maybe flex a little muscle and accelerate the timeline. No, no no, no, no no, we'll do this on our terms, on our own calendar. You're not going to get this before the draft. And then number two, maybe, just maybe they wanted to have a series of conversations with Kyler Murray as Mike Garrelfolo, the NFL Network reported way back

in early February at the start of this offseason. You know, the Cardinals very much wanted Kyler to take a step forward in a lot of these areas we cite. You know, it comes to leadership and having a bigger voice with his teammates. I'm guessing the Cardinals, I'm speculating, but I'm guessing that they made that point to Color you know what, this is now expected of you as one of the

highest paid players in the game. Yeah, and you know, Paully, honestly, once again, to be fair about it's I don't really thinking the quarterbacks reporting if he would have missed that, okay, would have missed that. Even the players reporting on the twenty sixth, even the players doing that, I think you could could you could say, Okay, there's still time for him not to miss that first practice, because that first practice is going to be huge to me, I mean

as a team collectively. I'm the twenty eight that to me was always the drop dead day once again. Episode thirty three of The Day Pash Podcast featuring Cardinals Say a Coach Clip King's very available now via your preferred podcast provider. Get the latest updates via Twitter at pashpod All right, So everything we waited all off season four right, Phil in the blanks, how many years, how many millions?

How much is guaranteed? The deal is done, The deal is big, and now some of the big questions for a guy who's been there and done that. Kurt Warner joins us. Next on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. Here comes Kyler Murray, the number one overall pick in the NFL draft, and the future of the franchise takes the feel for the first time. That is a great throw, a great read by Kyler Murray, or you could just see it, Kyler Murray and the

confidence starting to grow. They have seen the Heisman Trophy winner, a winner his whole life, backing it up with his play, had a thirty half the twenty at the fifteen ten five clips down, Kyler Murray, you are ridiculous. Murray magic. Nasty is as nasty does. And we all know that Kyler Murray is nasty. The stuff you see in dreams

and in video games, but not in the NFL. Some Murray magic in the form of a Murray montage right there, the collective voice of the Arizona Cardinals day passion around wolf yours truly Paul calvci on The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert so Wolf. I was on this radio show earlier today than national host. He hits me with how confident are you that Kyler Murray

will lead the Arizona Cardinals to a Super Bowl? Paul calvac and I went with, well, yeah, I mean, you know, Lamar Jackson flamed out in his first playoff game, and so did Peyton Manning, and they've done pretty well form themselves. But there's really only one person truly qualified to answer that question, the old right, the only quarterback ever to lead the Cardinals to a Super Bowl. We were there, and he joins us. Now, in fact, we have so much to talk about we do. Don't even have time, Kurt,

for all your accomplishments and accolades. Let us go with the Hall of Famer. I think that covers a Kurt Warner. How are we doing? I'm doing good? How are you guys doing? I'm getting ready for a great season. Excited that Cardinals got Kyla are locked up and we don't have to worry about that drama going in the season. But I'm doing well, and I'm sad about this upsoming season in the health. Yeah, thank you so much, gray

Beard for joining us. We really do appreciate this. But just give me your thoughts in general on Kyler Murray of course, and the Arizona Cardinals and the signing of this contract. What was the first thing you thought of when you actually heard the news? Well, I mean the first thing you always think, because I always come from

a player's mentality, and that's good for Kyler. I mean, it's it's incredible that you know, a young kid like that has proven enough to earn that kind of contract, and we're talking about, you know, generational wealth that you're excited for guys when they get to that point and they sign on the dotted line with something like this, you know, beyond that, I'm just excited because thinking about Kyler Murray's he's gotten better every single year and he's

a young kid that's still growing and that's still you know, working his way to what he can be. But he's done enough in the short period of time that he's played to warrant getting this next deal. And you know, now obviously, you know, like all these teams now they're hoping that Kyler lives up to that contract, and living up to that contract can look a lot of different ways. I mean, I think big picture wise, we're always going to say, you know, leaving the team to a super

Bowl is part of getting that big deal. But we've seen other guys in this league. You know that Drew Breeses, the Aaron Rodgers that have been great year in and year out and have led their teams to lots of wins and lots of playoff opportunities and opportunities to compete, that have only played in one super Bowl in twenty years and you know, eighteen years. And so there's lots of different ways to qualify living up to a particular contract. And so how it's going to be defined, you know,

we'll see four years from now. But I love that they locked him up. And as I said, I love that this young kid has done enough in a short period of time to say I warrant this kind of deal. And now, you know, hopefully he steps into that and goes. But now I want to live up to it. I want to live up to what forty six million dollars a year means in whatever capacity that is. And uh, and I hope he rises to that challenge. Kurt Warner joins us on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan

Ford in Gilbert. NFL Network will probably cover one of the Cardinals practices during Card's camp. If you could challenge Kyler Murray to get better in one area this season, what would it be, Kurt, Well, I mean, I think it would just be playing in the pocket and challenge him to, you know, learn to trust his eyes more

than his legs, you know. And it's easy for me to say because I had no legs, you know, but when you have legs like Kyler Murray, I understand how it's easy to just go oh, at the end of the day, just let me out athlete everybody. But I think, you know, for him to take that next step, he's to be willing to trust his eyes and make decisions inside the pocket and allow his arm and his mind to beat people, not his legs. And that's where I

would challenge him. The legs were always going to be a part of things, but makes the game easier by learning how to play in the pocket and learning how to make those decisions and trust that you don't have to win games by being an athlete all the time

because he's such a gifted, gifted thrower. You know, I was talking to somebody on the radio today and I think if you put all the skill sets of every quarterback in the National Football League together, from athleticism to throwing ability, put it all together, he may be the most talented quarterback we have in the National Football League. He is such a gifted thrower of the football. And that doesn't mean just a big arm. He understands how

to make different throws. He understands how to throw with touch, you know, and allow his players to get to the football and making it easier on his plays. And so it's a rare combination of his athleticism as well as his throwing ability. Now, if he can piece together, you know, getting better every year inside the pocket and making those layouts game in and game out, man, you know, it's already scary. You know, what did you say on the intro? Nasty is as Nasty does, and he's nasty, There's no

doubt he's nasty. But if he could develop more inside the pocket along with everything else he has, man, it would really really be nasty for every NFL defense. So where do you think schematically this offense. Do you think this offense needs to evolve, Kurt, And if so, how, um Well, I mean that's a tough question because again, evolution a lot of times comes down to what you're able to do and what you're able to hang your

hat on. You can't just always force an issue. You know, well, we haven't been good at this, so this is all we're gonna do. I just think the evolution really needs to come from Kyler and then come Cliff to figure out how he can take those steps inside the pocket without forcing it too much to not allow Kyler to do what he's capable of doing right now at this

point in his career. So it's a fine line between forcing the issue because you believe he's got to get better in that capacity if they ever want to compete against the best teams and compete for championships. But you can't sacrifice success and what he's done, you know, I mean the last two years, first half of the season, he's been in the MVP conversation, So you can't sacrifice allowing him to be Kyler Murray. So it's really a

fine line. When we talked about that evolution and how do you push that envelope in that area without sacrificing those other things that he's really really good at this point in time in his career, and you have to find that balance. And a lot of times I always think, you know, that's what training camp and preseason is for. Is Okay, we're not expecting Kyler to running. We don't want to running around making all these plays in training camp.

I want him to stay in the pocket. I want to force him to play more in the pocket, and then if we can make some growth there in training camp, we can see some of that in the regular season when it's time to just say, Kyler, ball in your hands. We need you just to play your game when we're

between those lines on Sunday. So I think a lot of the evolution happens more in the off season and in training camp and OTAs in preseason, as as opposed to expecting guys to every week get incrementally better at something when they're in the midst of the season and game planning and going out and just trying to win the next contest. Kurt Warner, I guest on the Big

Red Rage. You know we were around back in the Super Bowl run and before then, Kurt As you know when people talk about Super Bowl forty three, and I'd tell him, you know, I'd really started three years earlier. Kurt Warner, more than any person in that locker room, was responsible for changing the culture of the Arizona Cardinals. And we hear that about Kyler that he should be a bigger part of that, that the decision makers want him to have a bigger voice with his teammates and

more of a leadership role. What does that mean to you? Can you just simply define that? What would you tell a young quarterback in terms of that aspect of their job description? You know, it's it's always twofold. The first thing is, well, I would say the biggest thing is you have to get guys in your locker room to

believe and it's twofold one. It's getting them to believe in who you are as a player, that you know that you can do whatever this need, this team needs you to do to win every single game, that you've got the talent or the ability, or you're putting in the time, whatever it is, that those people watch you in that locker or watch you go to work every day and go, okay, we got a guy not just a talented guy, but a guy that i'm and I can go to battle with every week, and he's going

to find a way to carry us when we need to be carried. So that's the first thing, is you have those figureheads in your locker room that will bring everybody with them. And then the second part is to be a guy that can instill belief in everybody else from the standpoint that of what they're capable of. When I came to Arizona, the biggest thing was I don't think anybody ever believed that we were going to win.

Nobody believed what we were capable of, what the possibilities were with that team, you know, based on the past and the history and the guys that had been there and had never won, and so there was really no

belief that we could ever get to the mountaintop. And so that was my job when I got there, was a show them that I'm capable of leading them there and be showing them that they're capable of getting there, showing them that they can be better than they have been, that when we come together collect we could do something that everybody else maybe feels as impossible. And what they felt was impossible when I walked into the locker room, and that, to me is how you build a cultures.

It starts with believing, you know. And coach Wiz, I thought, did a great job when he came in of staying steadfast to what he believed in and saying this is how we're going to do it, and we're going to do it. And he stayed steadfast in that message and in his approach. And it's those kinds of things where you see incremental movement and then you start believing. And it takes certain people to be able to do that. And when you're the face of a franchise, obviously, when

you play quarterback, that becomes your role. I think a lot of people are going to believe, at least to a degree that Tyler has the ability to lead them

and win games with them. We've seen that he's going to have to convince them that he can take that next step and be good enough to win in the playoffs and you know, to get to super But the second part is to make sure that when they step in, the guys in that locker room believes, and that is a big part of that position, is connecting with guys and pushing guys and understanding how to compete with guys every day to push them to their limit, so they

start believing in what they can accomplish, well, what their groups can accomplish. Kurt, We've heard this for so long, We really have over the years, of course, that a franchise quarterback one of the things they have to do is work harder than anybody else. First guy in, last guy to leave. We've heard that so much. Does that

still apply in today's NFL? Well, I'm not in today's NFL, but I do believe well, Well, to me, as a leader, you have to earn respect of the guys around Yes, and I think there's lots of ways to earn respect, you know. I mean, you know Wolf as much as me. Every time you walk in or hear somebody interviewed in the AWE season, you know, everybody says they're the hardest worker. Well, everybody can't be the hardest worker. Like, it's not the case.

Everybody can't be that guy. But you do have to figure out what it is that you do that is going to earn the respect of the guys around you. Right, I felt that I worked hard, but I always felt like what separated me was I always felt like I was the smartest guy in every room. That you know, I knew more than everyone else. And that's where I earned my respect. Is that I could help teach everybody

on the offense. I could help talk to guys on defense and tell them what I was seeing, and that intelligence that I had separated me and earned the respect of the guys around me. And I always had their ear. They always knew that I knew what we were doing, that I knew how to help them, and that's how I earned my respect. So first guy in, last guy

to leave. I don't know if that's always the case, but I do believe the quarterback or the leaders have to earn that respect and have to have something that separates them from other guys, something that other guys look at and go, man, I want to be that guy or that guy's got something different about him. And I think that will always apply in leadership roles. Because you

don't have respect. For whatever reason, you don't have respect, it's always going to be hard for guys to follow you, and especially when things get tough, or especially when you have to ask them to do something they don't want to do. They're always going to look back and go, well do you do it? You know, are you asking me to do something you're not willing to do? And so I do think to some degree that applies. I just don't think it always applies in exactly the way

that you're talking about. Like, you know, I know we hear that all the time. What are you doing when you get in the building and what are you doing before you leave? To me, is more important than when you get in the building and when you leave the respect because it's so true, that's what you're after. How that it's distributed, it's probably different today. I'll tell you what you want to get ready for this NFL season. Go to QB confidential dot com. That's QB confidential dot com.

Kurt Warner, the driving force behind sharing Hall of Fame secrets, building better players, smarter coaches, and more informed fans. At QB confidential dot com, you get more of this sort of knowledge and insight. Kurt, Thank you, and we hope to see you next month. Out of the stadium, I am definitely gonna be there. I can't remember the day that I'm going to be out of the stadium, but I will be covering Cardinal Camp at one point, and

we look forward to catching up. But it's always great to talk to you guys, and let's go have a great season. Right on, great Baird. The good news is neither one of you us to wear anymore about being tackled from behind by Larry Fitzgerald like it has happened

at camp in the past. That's good, Kurt Warner. We continue with a big red rage presented by Satan Ford in Gilbert shotgun snapped at Wilson, straight drop back, steps up in the pocket, takes off on far side of the forty and drilled by Simmons at the forty one. Isaiah Simmons is balling how you do things outside of the facility and off the field, like going home, and how long you choose to study, what you choose to do extra, what you choose to do after practice is over.

That's something that I've always, you know, done, but you know, it's just a whole new level when you're a pro, just because at this level where everybody's physically gifted, everyone's an athlete, and I feel like where people separate them is the mental aspect of the games. Isaiah Simmons quoting danced Joseph Cardinals defensive coordinator this offseason, and this is on Isaiah and Zavian Collins. Quote it's their time, their

first round picks. They have to help us. End quote danced Joseph Aron Wolfley, You're truly Paul CALVISI special thanks to Kurt Warner for joining us on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. How about Kurt making that statement, if you put all the quarterbacks lined up, all their skill sets, that Kyler Murray might be the most gifted of every quarterback on the planet right now. So that was that was intriguing stuff. You talk about gifts, though,

wolf and you talk about just sheer talent. I mean Isaiah Simmons on the defensive side of the ball. You know, look he still has massive upside, doesn't he. Yeah, no, he does, Polly And once again, I honestly, you know, the talent is so obvious on the offensive side of the ball. You just look at the offensive side of

the ball and the talent, Bolly, it's so obvious. When you start with Kyler Murray, you got d Hop when he comes back, you got Hollywood Brown, you got zacherts On and on it goes, Yes, the talent is there, Yet the defensive side of the ball you can also see some talent. And I do believe that maybe the folcrum to the entire season, assuming the offense is gonna be what I think it's gonna be, and that's one of the best offenses in the league. I do believe

that I expect them to do. With the talent they have and the offensive line now that Rodney Hudson is coming back, I think they're going to be one of

the best offenses in the league. Having said that, maybe the entire season rests on the shoulders of the two young inside linebackers and how they develop Paul this year, because they're going to impact not only Rundown being first and ten, second and one to six, but also third and obvious of course they're going to impact and these are guys that may not come off the field, Paul, and because of that, they have a huge opportunity to impact not only the rushing game of an offense, but

also PAULI the passing attack because we know the guy who's off the field permanently, and that's Jordan Hicks, team captain. Correct guy who played the most defensive snaps if anyone, last year, number two in tackles. Guess what, Jordan Hicks ain't walking through that door this season, So it's incumbent upon those two young inside linebackers. In fact, on the Pash podc Yes, I actually honestly do not know the answer to this question. I do not hear this part

of the podcast. Yeah. Dave Pash asked clip Kingsbury if he could name a defensive player who he sees making a big leap this season. Is there a player in particular that when you talk with Vance, you guys are like, man, this this is going to be his year. We got a feeling about this, dude, Is there anybody? I'd say

Isaiah Simmons. I think we've found a role for him that we feel like he maximized what he does best, and he's such a dynamic athlete and when he's not thinking and just playing fast and attacking the football, good things happening for us. And there's year three in the system. I really saw some nice flashes this offseason and I expect him to play really well. Okay, that comment there from clip Kingsbury that we have found a role we have found a position that we really think suits him best.

That yes, that is the big red question. And you know what, at the end of the press commerce Vans Joseph he was he was from it up by some of the media members, what is Isaiah Simmons Where exactly is he going to play? And his answer, Vance Joseph was, He's a linebacker first and that's where he's playing. Yet when we had the open media sessions this offseason, he seemingly was playing more safety than linebacker. And we've seen

him in five or six different positions during regular season games. Yeah, and then didn't he also go to Ryan Clark's dB Precision Camp. Yes, he did, as a matter of fact, right as a dB. Now, listen, I think Isaiah Simmons, this is just me pure speculation. I think Isaiah Simmons is working on that part of his game because Vance Joseph is gonna move him around. He's not only going

to play that week side inside linebacker. That's where I think he's still going to be grounded, where he's still going to start, but he's also going to be moved around and playing more of a safety position as well. Now, once again, I'm not saying he's gonna take Jalen Thompson or Buddha Baker's reps. I'm not saying that, maybe they're going to just have this true X factor and Isaiah

Simmons out on the field. Now, Paul, you know what, Playing safety is more difficult I think for Isaiah Simmons, and because of that, I think he's spending a lot of time trying to work on improving that part of his game. You know what, in Week one against Kansas City, I'll tell you what position he's playing. He's playing the position titled the guy who covers Travis Kelsey. That's his position in Week one against Kansas Cy. Now after that, I have no idea Well, week two, I guess to

be the guy who covers Darren Waller. So about that. But look, here's my thing on where the Cardinals are currently constructed. If you want to get the best eleven on the field, Isaiah Simmons obviously is one of the most talented guys on that defense. But where exactly, Well, if you're a little thin at corner and guess what, you know what you have the two outside corners Marco Wilson, Buyer Murphy and their head and shoulders above any other corner. You keep them on the field, But now all of

a sudden you need a slot corner. Could that slot corner potentially be a Buddha Baker? Yes? Could it be a jail And Thompson we've seen that at times, would to be an Isaiah Simmons. If the matchup is right, it could be. So maybe they keep him on the field, but he's not necessary an inside linebacker. He's not even on the edge like we saw him at times last year. But he's that fifth dB, which they don't necessarily have

right now, especially after the tragic death of Jeff Cladening. Yes, no, absolutely, Polly, who knows what vance Joseph is going to do? I just during rundown situations, This is me, Paul. I really think Isaiah Simmons once again, Isaiah Simmons and Zavan Collins, those two young inside linebackers right there. I want to see him get the majority of reps inside the box

as the weekside inside linebacker. This is just me pure speculation on this, but if in fact the other team has a power personnel group meaning twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends, or twenty one personnel, polly, meaning two backs, one tight end right or thirteen one back, three tight ends if they have a power personnel group in during

rundown situations. Man, I really hope to see Isaiah Simmons lining up is that weekside inside linebacker, But once again, he's so wildly talented, they are going to move him around. But I also hope, Pauli, that we're going to see more nine on seven drills this year in training camp. More nine on seven, Pauli, the inside running game drills like that, because I think Isaiah Simmons and Zaven Collins really need that kind of work. I hope that happens.

I mean, look at your own division. You think the last place Seahawks will reverse engineer this right? You think the last place Seahawks are going to try and run the ball this year? Say, yes, it's gonna be their only option with Gino Smith and Drew Locke, and they loaded up in the offseason on running backs and offensive lineman. We know what the forty nine ers do with Kyle Shanahan. They make you stop the run first, and if you don't, he'll run it fifty times. Yeah, and then what did

the Rams do last year? What did they do after the Cardinals jack stopped him? They realize, you know what, this ten personnel isn't working without Robert Woods. We better go back to that offense we ran with Todd Gurley and it was a much more balanced offense. And now with a healthy Cam Akers, the word out of the Rams camp is they are going to ram it this

year more with the run game. So for a defense that allowed one hundred and fifty yards rushing or more five times last year, yeah, you're darn toot that those two guys better be up to stop in the run. And Polly, why didn't you say Jared Goff? Why didn't you say that? Because that's what they did. They took it back to Jared Goff. Yeah, Todd Gurley was there, Polly, but they brought it all the way back with Matthew Stafford.

And that's the thing that got him into the Super Bowl, in my opinion, was putting Matthew Stafford back into the Jared Goff. Here comes a tackle zone and the play action that comes off of it. Haroed Comps, you know what I mean? Enough about the stinking Rams. I want your opinion to come full circle here. What is the bigger question mark for this Cardinals defense pass rush, meaning can you get to the quarterback minus Chandler Jones or

is it those two young inside linebacker Polly? For me, right now, it's still the two inside linebackers, These young guys that have wild talent that could impact the other team's ability to run the ball and impact their ability to throw the ball with those long frames and long arms. I'm telling you, Paul, they could be a force or not. And that's what I'm looking at in training camp and the first time, the first time the first team d

comes out there, you don't think everyone's looking to see. Okay, yes, where exactly is Avne and Isaiah sis Hey? Cardinals season tickets available now at easy Cardinals dot com, slash season four info more the big red rage right after this flashhead of downs on the ou twenty five yard line. Mr Action going due before how you touch down centers seventy five yards? I'm a bassist guy, I'm the fail Kyler Murray Hollywood Brown. They have been there and done that.

That was twenty eighteen Kyler's Heisman campaign Oklahoma at Iowa State back. The voice of the Cardinals day pass has been there and done that. There he was calling it on the TV side. I remember right after the trade, and it happened on Draft night, Welcome Back into the Big Red Race, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Ron Wolfley there, Paul Calvc here, and there we were on stage with Hollywood Brown after the trade. About a half hour after it was announced, Michael Bidwell flew him down

in front of the Cardinals Draft party. Right that epic scene, I got a lot of attention, and I vividly remember Hollywood Brown saying, you know what, Kyler Murray, I know how he thinks, he knows how I think these two guys, they're literally best friends and wolf how far where do you think that goes? That sort of chemistry when it comes to production for the Cardinals offense? Yeah, No, I

think it goes a long way, Paul, I really do. Now, they're gonna have to prove that, and that's something that's I'm sure they have no problem doing going out there improving it. But yeah, I think that chemistry is always going to be there, and I think we'll see it probably earlier as opposed to later in the season, So I'm not worried about that. At all. I'm just really really excited about the dynamic Polly. You know that I was talking about this long before Hollywood Brown ever was acquired.

I was so fired up about Rondel Moore. Why was I fired up about Rondel Moore, Polly, Because I thought he was going to get more vertical, Right, This was a guy that could take the top off for the Cardinals, and that's something they really really need. And that wide receiver room, the ability of a guy to run down the middle of the field and scare the dog out of the safety, scare the dog out of the defensive coordinators, and then provide an awful lot of room for the

guys underneath running their intermediate routes. And now all of a sudden, the Arizona Cardinals have that guy in the form of Hollywood brown Man, not only what he does with the ball in his hands, but what he does without the ball. And this is what I'm fascinated to see, Paulie, because I think it's gonna have a dynamic impact on

this offense going forward. Yeah, Cardinals receiver's coach Seawn Jefferson right after the Super Bowl, remember he confirmed you know your wants and needs and desires that yes, indeed, Rondel Moore will be to downfield a lot more this year.

And what I'm also intrigued about when it comes to Hollywood Brown is when he told us on the Big Red Rage that you know what, I haven't been able to even showcase what I can do in the NFL yet, he said, I've been a team guy, meaning that Raven's offense run by Greg Roman with the multiple tight ends in the power run game, so he was always the third option at best. Well now, especially without d Hop, he could be the very first options. So you gotta figure he's going to get a lot of targets. He'll

get a lot of chances downfield. He told us how he according to the analytics and the metrics, he's received more cushion than any other receiver in the league. So we'll see what sort of respect he gets in that regard. And then boom, all of a sudden, you get that sort of tandem with Kyler and Hollywood Brown, and then you realize, Okay, what does that mean for the Cardinals offense?

Something Justin Pugh talked about in the Day Pash podcast, just Kyler and how guys want to play with him, and where the Cardinals are now versus where they were. Kyler is in his third year in the NFL, and when I was in New York, Eli Manning was not a vocal leader. He was the first one in, he was the last one out. He did everything right. Kyler comes in, he does everything we asked him to do. I was here four years ago and we didn't have

Kyler Murray. I remember that team, and I've seen a lot of quarterbacks come through the store justin in twenty one years, we had the worst offense and I think NFL history. So when Kyler got here, a light went back on. Irrelevance came back on. We started playing primetime games again. We've been in the playoffs, We've been relevant. Our families has something to look forward to every year. There's something to be said about that. Yeah, it's only

gallows humor now. Because you have Kyler Murray and you have a top ten offense. It's so nice to be able to kind of chuckle that. Alright, Yes, because twenty eighteen, when Sam Bradford his face down on the turf and then here comes Josh Rosen, it definitely was not amusing. Didn't route to a three and thirteen just yet another

reason why he was handsomely rewarded today. Well, yes, absolutely, Polly, but also too, I just want to take this time because we really haven't mentioned Rodney Hudson and the ability to run Rodney Hudson out there on this offense as the center once again is absolutely huge. This is huge. That was just as big to me, it really was. You know what, the Kyler Murray signing is huge, obviously, and it's bigger because he's a franchise quarterback, but eliminating

the distraction was a big deal for this team going forward. Well, you know what, signing Rodney Hudson was also a huge deal for this team going forward because Polly, once again Bill Belichick, you know Bill Belichick, right, Polly, you know what he's done. He's done something a little bit right there was very fond of saying, the team that controls the middle of the field more times than not, controls the game. And you know what, Polly, it all starts

with a center snapping the ball. It all starts with a guy like Rodney Hudson getting a lot of guys lined up, and you give me an offensive line. Your offensive line doesn't have to be the best in the league. It just has to be good enough to allow your talent to do what they do, good enough to allow Kyler Murray to do what he does. Good enough to allow Kyler Murray to be able to throw the ball down the field to d Hop and Marquis Brown and Zach Ertz, and to be able to hand the ball

off to James Connor. It's got to be good enough to allow your skill to do what they do, Polly, because we can name all those skill players. But if your O line is a liability, you will take the l Yep. We've been there and done that. Plenty of talented offenses have had a bad offensive line and they don't go anywhere. In fact, I'll go back to the playoff game. There's a reason one of the first acquisitions the Cardinals may in the off season was a right

guard because right guard was a liability. Yeah, especially against number ninety nine Aaron Donald. And I vividly remember Aaron Donald after that game telling the media quote their quarterback didn't look comfortable end quote. Ya. That's all it takes. That's all it takes for Kyler Murray to play the worst game of his NFL career is just him being uncomfortable behind an offensive line, especially when there's a real liability at a certain position. Yes, Polly, I mean honestly,

once again, it's all of this is coming together right now. Now. They got to go do it. They got to prove it. I'm not making any predictions. You know how I feel about predictions, Polly. But man, they've got the pieces to be one of the best offenses in the National Football League bar none. In fact, I had to shut down cam Cox from Channel twelve earlier today. He wanted to stink in prediction. Absolutely not, no predictions whatsoever. Besides, besides,

I have no idea. Did I think the Cardinals were going to start seven and oh last year or ten and two? No I did not. And did I think they would finish by losing five of the last six, including the playoff game. No, I most definitely did not think that's the way the Caesar's gonna end. So who knows exactly what's coming our way? Yep? All I know is it is an unbelievable schedule. It's the number one

or number two toughest schedule in the NFL. It is loaded with marquee opponents and Single game tickets are available now at Acy Cardinals dot Com slash Tickets. Special thanks to Senior broadcast Manager and producer Jim Almahandro technical director Zach Larson for the Hall of Famer Kurt Warner and Ron wolf Lee. I'm Paul KLBC. This has been the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Bard in Gilbert Chaw Number one. You've been listening to the Big Red Rage

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