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Ep. 596 - Titans play-by-play voice Mike Keith joins Paul Calvisi and Ron Wolfley to talk about the recent hiring of Cardinals general manager Monti Ossenfort. Find out why Ossenfort was held in high regard by everyone in Tennessee and what Keith thinks Monti will do for the Cardinals. Plus, things are starting to heat up in the search for a new head coach and the conference championships are scheduled for Sunday. Who will be packing their bags for the Super Bowl in Arizona?

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Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh and ahead, he got jacked. This is the Big Red Rain presented by satan Ford in Gilbert. Mary's Gonna score touchdown. Slam to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Satanford?

State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit acy Cardinals dot Com, Slash Podcasts, The Reds, Rising Guard, Temperaturizing Vision, flurring, rage taking over. Here's Paul Calveci. I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee, it doesn't get any better than that, boy, unleash the far. If you get it right, you can get back into

the postseason. Look at this past season, this time a year ago, Ron Wolfley, there were ten teams in the market for a new head coach. Five of those teams got back into the playoffs. They got it right and with a first year head coach boom, they got back into the postseason. And that's where the Arizona Cardinals are right now, what might be the most instrumental week of the two twenty three season continues to unfold right under our noses here today in real time. It has been fluid,

no doubt. We have gotten several coaching decisions across the NFL landscape, and we're here to break it all down and what exactly it means for the Arizona Cardinals on this addition to the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert we are Santan Ford, Wolf, I know you've been on this all day, every day, so you know what. It has been a fluid situation, has it not? Yeah, it has, Polly, There's no thought about it. And the the dominoes are starting to fall right now, they really are.

We know that the Arizona Cardinals have been meeting with Sean Payton of course today with their interview. We know that Dan Quinn has declared that he's not going anywhere. He's going to stay right there in Dallas. That's breaking news. And not only that, we know that Frank Reich is going to be the next head coach of the Carolina Panthers. Things are starting to move right now, Polly. This is just me. I could be dead wrong on this and

I don't care if I am. But tomorrow, by tomorrow afternoon, I think we're going to find out a whole lot more as to where the Arizona Cardinals are going and who their head coach is going to be. It's interesting we talked this time last week. When the music stops, it's like musical chairs. Everybody better find a seat, right yep. And so the music is stopped in a lot of ways. What exactly now? Damiko Ryans is still out there and nobody can talk to him again until after this coming weekend.

There's a report late today that Denver has him installed, is their number one choice, and you got to figure he's the hometown favored in Houston where he played for a decade, and who's a team captain, and the Texans fan base wants themselves some Demiko Ryans. We don't know about ownership, but that's an evolving situation as well. But you mentioned Dan Quinn. He had a long interview with

the Cardinals yesterday. Today we get the news late today that he is indeed staying as defensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys and what he told Edward er and I quote unfinished business here in Dallas. My complete focus is helping the team play championship ball in twenty twenty three. So for the second straight year, Jerry Jones able to keep Dan Quinn as his defensive coordinator and he declines head coaching opportunities. So is there a leader in the

clubhouse for the Arizona Cardinals right now? Wolf, You've talked about some of those guys who made decisions already just looking at the scorecard. Here you got defensive coordinator Vance Joseph. You have Brian Flores, who has interviewed with the Cardinals

at their headquarters. You have Sean Payton as of today. Now, I cite those three first because they all have previous head coach experience, right which in my mind is very important, especially after the last two head coaches were first time NFL head coaches. How about in your mind? Yeah, No,

you're right about that, PAULI. It is it's got to be a situation where you go the opposite direction a lot of the time, and sometimes you take a coach where you're focused more on one side of the ball, and you'll go the opposite direction with your next hire on the opposite side of the ball, of course. And that's the reason why I think that Vance Joseph and Brian Flores, those two guys again, nobody, paul You know me. I don't break stories. This is not what I do,

all right. I don't have sources. I'm just sitting here looking at all the information the way that we all are right now. I honestly like the defensive minded coach. Now, if you told me that Sean Payton was going to be the next coach of the Arizona Cardinals, I would be absolutely on board with that, be fine with that right now. But you have to wonder what is going on with Sean Payton. We know that the Arizona Cardinals

have been meeting with Sean Payton even today. But for me, I think a defensive minded coach actually has a better chance of coaching this team going forward. And the reason why I say that, Paulie, it's because of three primary situations. Number one, separation from Kyler Murray. In other words, listen, I'm the head coach of this team. We're gonna have to hire a legitimate offensive coordinator. We're gonna have to

hire a good quarterback coach. Of course, to work with Kyler Murray, but I need to be the head coach of this team, and he needs to be the alpha in that room. You've heard me talk about that many many times, the alpha inside that locker room. And I honestly think that that's one of the reasons why I favor the defensive side of the ball, because he's going to have that built in separation from Kyler Murray. It's number one, number two defensive players like Isaiah Simmons, Zaven Collins,

Marco Wilson. The number three pick potentially overall, could be a defensive player. Will Anderson is a guy that's been mocked out many times already to the Arizona Cardinals at number three. I think a defensive minded coach would help those guys develop their game. And then, thirdly and finally, Paul, defensive coaches, their souls are just more physically inclined than offensive coaches. And I want to see that hard nose, hardcore, physical football team, and I think a defensive minded head

coach has got a better chance of implementing that. For example of Mike Vrabel, and I bring that up because Mike Vrabel's head coach of the Tennessee Titans, and we're going to talk to their play by play man, longtime voice of the Titans, Mike Keith. Momentarily this addition to the Big Red Rage present of by Santan Ford and Gilbert, it's the team where Manias and Ford comes from the last three years he had been with the Tennessee Titans. And we're gonna get a scouner report on the Cardinals

new GM. But first let's hear hear from the Cardinals new GM and what he's looking for in a head coach, the specifics in terms of leadership in developing players and coaches in being a teacher of fundamentals, details, and techniques. We're trying to build a sustainable program here. This is not a short term fix. So we want a coach that sees the big picture and understands that we're not

happy with just the results of twenty twenty three. We're building this for extended championship teams as we move forward. He also used the phrase complete organizational alignment, and he's talking about a direct line of communication between the head coach and the GM and Wolf, you know, we talked to players, we talked to people have been around the

legal long time. It's that line of communication and the working relationship between a head coach and a GM that can be the most important aspect of any successful organization. And the Cardinals last opponent, the San Francisco forty Niners, I think, is a good example of that. Back in the day when they had Jim Harball and they had Trent Bulky, they had talent, and they were going to NFC championship games, but it wasn't sustainable because Bulky and

Harbaugh they didn't get along. Now, look at the current situation when John Lynch and Kyle Shannah and one plus one equals three. That's what you're looking for if you're the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, I know you're right, Polly, And you know again, it doesn't mean that's going to be the deciding factor. It doesn't, but boy, that's got to be a big thing that you're a big box so

to speak, that you're checking right there. And that's why it's very interesting Monnie Austin Fort and Brian Flores, right, Polly, yep, going back to New England days, yea, going all the way back to the New England days and maybe sharing a football philosophy as well. I love the fact that right there Monnie austen Fort was talking about fundamentals. He was talking about detail, he was talking about techniques, Polly.

That is, that is the things that you think of a football player, building them from the ground up, from the ground up is it's fundamentals. It's about the detail, the little things, the technique that a player is going to use. I love the words that I'm hearing from Monnie Asenford, and I do believe that a lot of what he's saying right now can also be applied to the next head coach coming in for the Arizona Cardinals,

because you've got to share the same vision. And that's the reason why the Brian Flores element is very appealing. And when I ask you this question, it's almost a rhetorical question because I know your answer. When I ask you, does a team take on the identity of its head coach, your answer would be yes, resoundingly still right, Yeah, No, Paulli, it does. And it's one of the reasons why defensive minded head coaches something that I like, because they are

they're just more physical. They demand it, They demand physicality from their defensive guys. And because of that, I think you flop it over and you put a head guy up in front of the entire team, he's going to do the same thing offensively. I know offensive line coaches many many times they talk about being physical. I know running back coaches as well, they'll talk about being physical.

But for the most part, more times than not, there's always going to be exceptions that are out there paully, But more times than not, defensive minded head coaches talk more about physicality and toughness and the old way of doing things then offensive minded head coaches. So if you're Brian Flores or your Vance Joseph, probably the big question

you have to answer, who is your offensive coordinator? What is your answer right by that side of the ball, you know, for Dan Quinn, for example, once a bun of time when he went to Atlanta, who was his zoc to start with? Kyle Shanahan. So if one of those candidates Vance Joseph and Brian Flores had the next Kyle Shanahan in the fold and the next great offensive mind, that goes a long way I would think towards being hired. And then if you're Sean Payton, well there's the aspect

of what are you going to pay Sean Payton? What are you going to pay the New Orleans Saints in terms of compensation and or picks? You know, there are other things involved with Sean Payton, who's obviously a proven a coach who has a Super Bowl ring, He has that experience, and then he would be that exceptional offensive mind who would have to connect and click with Kyler Murray and try and bring him along. So there's a lot to be evaluated here. And I tell you a

quick word. I asked Joseph just from where I'm sitting. Nobody knows this organization and this roster better, yes than advanced Joseph. Yes, I think that's Yeah, that's something that gives him an advantage over the others. Very detailed advanced understanding to this team. Mike Key Titans played by play man his next we'll talk about ego will need not

be tolerated? What does that mean? On the Big Red Rage, We're going to focus on a completely unified message across the general manager, the head coach, and ownership to what exactly we want to be as a football organization. We're going to institute a thorough and exhaustive scouting process. We are going to turn over every stone to find the right players for this team. We are not just collecting talent. We're going to build a team. We're going to look

for the right type of players. Ego will not be tolerated in this organization. We are going to look for focused, driven, and people that are willing to put the team first at every step of the way. And is the Cardinals new voice the leadership the new GM Monty Austin Ford. One of the more memorable quotes from Monty's opening press conference, Just the first external candidate to be hired by the Cardinals as soul GM since wait for it, and we

have been waiting then nineteen seventies. How about that? It's Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert and we aren't Santan Ford, Paul calBC, Ron Wolfley and twenty one years NFL experienced for Manias and Ford. Wolf as you know, last three is director of player personnel with the Tennessee Titans. We're very familiar with the Titans. Radio analyst the former Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was our pleasure to visit with coach Mack back in August. What's

his go to line. By the way, I got two things going from a good hair and a lot of money. That's what he used to say. That's right, a lot of hair, a lot of money. So how about how about we talked to the guy who's laughing? His long time radio partner, the voice of the Tennessee Titans for the last quarter century plus, going into his twenty sixth season, Mike Keith is our guest, and Mike, I don't know about you, but one day, just one day, I'd love to match the energy of Coach Mac. I don't think

it'll happen for me. I know that he's amazing, and you know, we call him the most interesting man in the NFL. As everywhere we go we run into people who, oh, Coach macdess, Coach Mac that. And it's not like people who are just you know folks. It's like famous people. It's like Joe Joe Greens and all these coaches and all these great plays. It's like, what, how do you know somehow he knew Brocod Girsky. I know he did.

I know he did. Right. Well, Hey, you tell us about Monte Osivar, give us a few quick thoughts and then we'll get some specific questions. No, wolf has a lot of questions, but just give us a thumbnail and how long you've known money and what you've come to know. Well, got to know him here over the last two years, because I did not know him in the COVID year.

He came here from New England and there was a there was a speculation, you know, he was mentioned as one of the one of the really bright minds in New England and there was some thought that he needed to go somewhere else where he could prove that he was also a bright mind other than Bill Belichick. And you know, to a certain extent, anybody who works in

personnel there doesn't really get noticed very much. And so coming to Tennessee, having the opportunity to work with his old friend John Robinson and a group of other people that he became really good friends within a short period of time. And like I said, I've gotten to know him over the last couple of years, one of the more popular people on the football side with the non

football folks. Meaning he's a really good guy. And I know that doesn't get you anywhere, but what it does do is it gives you a start that you don't have. If you come in and you're talking about things in ways, here's what we're not going to let you do. You're never gonna see this. We're never going to talk to you.

This is never gonna happen. It's all a secret. This is a guy with a good personality, a guy who is genuine only somebody who's fun to hang around with, but he's got all the requisite skills that come from being trained in the way that he was, and that discipline. What you heard him talking about and how they're going

to approach things will work with his style overall. And that's because he will be able to blend the personality and the fact that he gets along with folks with that discipline of how he's going to do that job based on that Patriots training. I guess in a long way, what I'm saying is, I think you sort of get the best of both worlds with Monti as a Ford. So, Mike, following up on that right there, would you say that Monty had any kind of connection or relationship with Mike

Vrabel as well? Or did Mike Vrabel value monte As and Ford because of the organization he was coming from. You know, I think so I think there was certainly something there. He would have been a very late tenure guy in Mike's time as a player with the Patriots. But you know, there's a lot of respect among that sort of fraternity. He and John Robinson certainly had it, even though they didn't really know each other very well.

When Robinson hired Vrabel, there was this perception, oh, they were big pals with you know, with the with the Patriots, and you know how this works. Well, I mean, the players don't know the all of the scouts very I may know him to say hi or come across him in the weight room or the locker room or something, but it's it's not it's not that way. I do think there's a respect for the way they go about

their business. And you know, that's the thing that the Patriots have done so well as they have been able to identify people who fit with their system overall, to plug in these great pieces around the Bradies and the Gronkowskis and the Moors and people that they have somehow found people in different ways. You know, they've they've signed a lot of great free agents that other people went what and yet they go in there and have really successful careers, or you draft a guy like Kevin Falk

and what did he play thirty four years there? He's caught like nine million passes and that, but he was perfect for them, right, And so I think that's what Monty has helped do well here in his time and has certainly learned from Bilichick about how you're going to piece together not just the one through ten. I think a lot of us could get the one through ten. It's the eleven through sixty nine, counting the practice squad

that's really the trick. And that's where I think that asin fort training and what he's going to get across the staff is going to show up. I think the Cardinals will be a much deeper team in terms of players that can help them over a period of time. Mike Keith is our guest longtime voice of the Titans here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. Because you heard the one line in there that got the most attention here in the AZ and

it's ego will not be tolerated in this organization. Most people would attribute that to Belichick. Wolf played for Belichick once about a time. I think he concurs he's talked about that. To what degree is that a part of the culture of the Titans And do you think Monty is that guy to enforce that because the ownership group has talked and Michael bid One in particular, about how this team needs more accountability. Can Monty be that guy? Yeah?

I think you can see it here. I mean, that's what we've done with the Titans over the period of the last seven years and obviously didn't work out well this year with the rundown of the season, But I don't think it was because of anything the locker room. There's an accountability that has gone on and it's a big thing with Rabel, and it's obviously a big thing Patriots. The locker room polices the locker room, and the guys

have an understanding of where the piece is fit. A lot of veteran players have come here over the last five years and have just loved the culture because it's like, look, all I gotta do is gold play ball. Nobody is any better than anybody else. Vrabel talked about it when he first came. He goes, listen, I'm going to be an equal opportunity deliver of grief. I didn't say that exactly the way Vrabel would say. But the point was

one of the first practices Vrabel ever held. He gave the business to our quarterback at the time, Marcus Mariota. And you're like, whoa, this guy's saying something to the quarterback. Not because Marcus was soft or whatever, but just normally you don't hear the coach crack on the quarterback much. It just doesn't happen. Vrabel did. And because he's an equal opportunity in terms of sticking it to people, he sticks it to the best guy or the worst guy

and everybody in between. And I think that's probably a lot of what Monty's talking about. I don't think he's talking about it like genuine ego. I think what he's talking about is we're gonna be in all fifty three. We're gonna be an all in. We're we're gonna outtough people in this way because we're gonna be sticking together. You know, when the bullets are flying, we're gonna be there hanging in and hanging in and we're gonna we're

gonna outtough you over a period of time. The Patriots don't get as much credit for that over the years. I think because of Brady, but there were so many games you said, they have no chance to win because they're playing Troy Brown in the secondary and they're doing all these weird things that and yet they find a way because they just keep fighting. That's been the tendency here and the thing that has gone well. And I think you're going to see him try to bring that

sort of culture there. I don't want to speak for money, but I just know he believes in this sort of thing. He believes in having guys who are going to fight and fight and fight and who are going to fit. Yeah, Mike, you know what, Honestly, when I think of the Tennessee Titans, man, I do I think of a team that is tough. I think a team that is physical, smart, high effort guys. And I know in the two years that I played for Bill Belichick in Cleveland, he wanted smart, tough, disciplined

football players. He just assumed you were going to be physical, but he wanted smart, tough, and disciplined guys. That's what he was looking for right there. In Every guy, whether it was a draft picked, whether it was a free agent, every guy was pulled through that filter before he walked inside that locker room. I look at you guys, and I think that's the way you guys are as well to some degree, and based on what you just said

right there, it certainly sounds like that. But it's just a part of the I think the smart thing really stands out run because that part of it is such an advantage. If you're not jumping off sides at the wrong moment, if you're not you know, if you don't get grabby on a jump ball late in the game, if you're just doing all the smart things in the kicking game, you know, it comes down to one play, to one opportunity. It's like pretty much what San Francisco

did against Dallas over the weekend. You know, were they that much better? I don't know, but it just seemed like every time there was a slight moment where there could be a play to be made, San Francisco get it better. And that's that's a lot of why this Tennessee team has won the way they have overall over the period of the last seven years and under the five years that Mike Rappel has been the head coach.

I think those sorts of things you're looking for that edge, and the most overused phrase right now I think in terms of evaluation is he loves ball well. But there's a lot of truth to it because there are a lot of kids growing up today who don't you know, and I'm sure the Cardinals have encountered some. The Titans have certainly encountered some. But fighting your way through that, getting through this generation and understanding that you've got to

find some guys because this is a job. It's hard, a lot of it's no fun. And to do it well, you've got to put in those ten thousand hours and become a master. You have to live it. You've got to find those people. And it's a key well is assistant Jemmy Josire, Dave Sears from the Detroit Lions. They've made that their mantra, literally to find that kind the player. That's what Dan Campbell and Chris Spielman and Brad Holmes,

that's what they've done in turning around the Lions. And we saw it happen the tail end of this season. So Mike, thank you very much. I mean, we hear Monty talk about complete organizational alignment, and that was his phrase. We think of the Titans. We think of the Patriots, and you know we got a taste of that in August. We're out there for the joint practice and so we'll see, we'll see if you can replicate that sword of accountability,

because look, I know that's what they're looking for. They're looking for the detail oriented decision makers, a head coach and a GM and being aligned in that fashion. The little things are big things in the NFL. We know that all from experience. Mike, Thank you so much for the insight. We appreciate the time, right pleasure. Thank you for having me. Thank you, Mike. There you going, Mike Keith,

longtime voice of the Titans. On monti astin Ford. We continue with a big red rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Riley Patterson crotting to the ball, swings its late through attendover Rand. It bounces at Seppery, but it was famed upon by Kadarius Tony of the Chiefs, and that's gonna do it. Chiefs are gonna get the on side kick recovered at the forties at jard Line. Jacksonville can't stop on them. The Chiefs are gonna go to the AFC Championship Game for the

fifteen secutive year. Parow takes a knee and it's over. The winning continues for Cincinnati. The Bengals are going back to the AFC Championship Game. They have won ten in a row, and they will make an appearance in the conference championship for consecutive years for the first time in franchise history. Twenty seven to ten. The final here in

Orchard Park, New York. And that's how it's signed. It right on Westwood One, the final calls there from the Divisional round advancing to the AFC Championship Games second straight year, the Natty going to KC. Or as some of the Bengals players set on the sideline wolf, We're going to quote Burrowhead, not arrowhead, but Burrowhead is what some of the Bengals were saying. Not Joe Burrow himself, but because Joe Burrows three and oh all time fact in the

last thirteen months or so against Patrick Mahomes. So a lot of confidence by Cincinnati going into KC, Kansas City team that is going to host it's fist straight AFC Championship Game. It is a big red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert, we are santan Ford, and we know what happened last year. You had Cincinnati getting down twenty one three and coming all the way back, tie

in the game, then winning in overtime. And actually the Bengals are installed as a slight favorite by the Vegas oddsmakers. Your thoughts on that wolf incredible, Paulie. When you stop and think about that, right now, the Cincinnati Bengals own the Kansas City Chiefs. Exumely where you could look at Paully right now to beat them three times the last three times. Is there any other team out there that owns the Kansas City Chiefs to that degree has beat

him the last No, there isn't, Paully. And not only that too, you got to go inside those games right there as well. Cincinnati had leads of eighteen, fourteen, and seven and those three games they paul they never trailed going into the fourth quarter. They had leads and all three of those games going into the fourth quarter. Now again I'm not saying they didn't lose the lead in the fourth quarter. I'm saying going into the fourth quarter, they they know how to play against the Kansas City Chiefs.

And so much of that is exactly what we saw against the Buffalo Bills. Did you see the Bengals line up and run the ball, hammer the ballon bucks seventy two as a team with three backup offensive lineman one hundred and seventy two rushing yards by Cincinnati. It was brilliant by Zach Taylor to actually call the game the way that he was. They came out and they threw the ball in that first half, Joe Burrowing, they had

twenty seven, twenty seven passing attempts. They ran the ball, they did they kept it balanced, but he had twenty seven pass attempts in the first half. And in the second half, Man, they came out and they put the plow down, literally hammered the ball in between the tackles. And that's how the Bengals also beat the Chiefs, running the ball and doing it in a very direct nor sol fashion with Joe Mixon. This game is going to be fascinating. I think both games are going to be really,

really good. It's amazing when you run the ball how you can protect your quarterback as well. Just one sack by Buffalo of Joe Burrow despite three backups in that offensive line thirty first downs by Cincinnati. After the game,

Eli Apple said it was never close. That was his quote, right, and then and then just how motivated the Bengals were by the fact there was a neutral site game they already selling tickets for for Buffalo against Kansas City, and Joe Burrow after the game telling the sideline reporter on CBS, quote,

better get those refunds sent out. So look, any team will take anything they can in the playoffs to rally around something that has been the motivational aspect for a Cincinnati team that well, let's talk about their defense real quick. I mean they held Josh Allen Buffalo to four twelve on third downs. They forced a three and out three different times. I mean, they hit Josh Allen eight times, held them just a fuel goal in the second half. Yes,

what do you think about the Bengals defense against Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, man, it's it's incredible because if you look at the numbers right now, it's not good. It's just not good. It's the Bengals don't have a great pass rush. They don't. Any time you think of you know, okay, you gotta get after Patrick Mahomes. You better have a pass rush right there. They don't have a great pass defense. Patrick Mahomes. I was mesmerized. Paul I just want to say this

right now, this guy. I absolutely love Pat Mahomes because not only is he a smart football player, not only does he understand the game of football, not only is he incredibly talented, his arm talent is second to none. Nobody in the league. Maybe Aaron Rodgers still, but nobody in the league has the arm talent that he has. Also, he can pull it down and run. But Paulie, I

honestly didn't comprehend just how tough Pat Mahomes is. And that is something that as a former fullback in the National Football League, I'm gonna jettison him up on top of my list once again when it comes to the best quarterbacks in the league because of how tough that dude is. You saw it an NFL films. They tweeted out a clip today. How I rate he was in the sideline that Annie Reid took him out of the game. Yes, made him go into the locker room and get some

X rays. Wouldn't him into the game unless the X rays were negative? And I mean he was legitimately hot about that, and well, if you know how the rest of the team embraces that, right, especially from the highly paid quarterback, If he has that sort of mentality, then guess what, there's no excuse why everyone else can't have that sort of mentality, which which brings us back to Joe Burrow, because I remember vividly the two of us having a conversation about Joe Burrow this time last year

and just talking about, you know what the Bengals culture is. The Bengals culture is Joe Burrow, That's what it is. And we were talking with Kyle Vannimbosch about Joe Burrow on the Red Sea Report, and we forgot about Kyle's, let's just say, very unique connection to Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow when I was at Nebraska, I played with his

two brothers. They both played defense. Jamie Burrow was in my recruiting class in my freshman year roommate, and so little Joe Burrow would come around when he was a baby, And I held Joe Burrow when he was a baby. So I got him started down a successful ball career just by the advice I gave him when he was a baby. Oh Man Buck come on then he did pan the end. But that's a true story. So how

about that. That's very very interesting. But I tell you what, I just I can't get enough of Joe Burrown just watching him play. And then obviously we saw firsthand what what Patrick Mahomes did Week one against the Cardinals, three touchdown drives in the first three possessions of the game, and it was they were after a ridiculous season again in the number one seed in the AFC. To what degree, Wolf, do you expect to shootout in this one? Just based

on the quarterbacks? Yeah, you know, so much of that. I think, PAULI is gonna be predicated on what the weather is like down in the Arrowhead. As you know, sometimes it can get nasty down there. Other times you get not a cloud in the sky. Now it might be chilly. I'm sure it's gonna be cold down there. But you know, I don't really know what to expect

except for a great game. I Joe Burrow right now, when you talk about the best quarterbacks in the National Football League, Paulie, you have to put him in there. You have to, And I think coming into this season it was kind of ub you know, well, he's he's maybe number five, number six somewhere in there after this season and what he's done and the way that he's got his team on a role, Yeah, it's right at

the top. When you're talking about the best quarterbacks in the league, you have to put Joe Burrow right there. I tell you, as the Cardinals hit the reset button, I'll give you my theory when I come when we come back here on the Big Red Rage, and you tell me if I'm on track or off base. A reminder, you can join the season ticket priority list and select your seats before the general public. And I tell you

this year's opponent list at home is big time. Not only the Seahawks, forty nine Ers and Rams, but you have the Giants, the Cowboys, the Ravens, the Falcons, and yes, Joe Burrow and the Bengals. Just go to asy cardinals dot com slash Priority list more Big Red Rage right after this. That'll do it, and the row to the ser Super Bowl roots through Philadelphia. The Eagles are in

the NFC Championship Game, not behoped. The Giants thirty eight to seven and the top seed in the NFC wove every min the part on this Saturday Night in filling so Zeke Elliott over the football. He's gonna snap at the Prescott. Prescott back to pass, throws left pot by Turfet, hit it dropped. After all that, they throw into Turpet tackled at the thirty and the game is over. For a second straight year, the forty nine ers are going to the NFC Championship Game San Francisco nineteen Dallas twelve.

The forty nine ers will go to Philly with a trip to the super Bowl on the line. There you go a paar of calls on Westwood one Niners seeking their eight super Bowl in team history, the Eagles seeking their fourth super Bowl in their team history, and wolf There's more than one way to build a team. Here's my theory on the Big Read Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley and it's not exactly breaking news, but look at

the three best teams in the AFC. We just saw have the three best quarterbacks in the NFL, I would

argue and Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow and Josh Allen. Yes, the three best teams remaining in the NFC would be the three best at getting to the quarterback between the Eagles and they're seventy sacks and the forty nine Ers and that number one ranked defense and their defense in front, and Nick Bose to the NFL Defensive Player of the Year almost as certainly, and then the Dallas Cowboys and defensively Michael Parsons and what they're able to do getting

to the quarterbacks. So, you know, if you can take one path or the other, it's amazing to me how NFL football still boils down to the quarterback and or getting to the quarterback. Yeah, Paully, And when you're talking about getting to the quarterback, you're talking about two defenses on the NFS East side in the NFC Championship game here in the Philadelphia Eagles in the forty nine Ers.

That's what they do. That is who they are. The Philadelphia Eagles, the number one pass defense in the National Football League, Number one Paully in passing yards per game, number one in passing yards per play. Not only that, Paul, number one in getting after the quarterback. That's what they do. But also is so interesting about that is the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line. Paul is the best offensive line in football. To me, for my money, the best offensive line in football.

They are brutal. They allow all of their talent to go out and do. What talent does you hear me say this all the time. But you've got talent like Jalen Hurtz, you got Miles Sanders, A. J. Brown, DeVante Smith. You got hardcore talents in the Philadelphia Eagles. But Paulli Yeah, okay, Pauli Yeah, he's a hard word curtain. It's really really good as a tight end. No, duck, I'm talking about this raw talent that you have. This offensive line is

so good it makes that talent that much better. And it's one of the reasons why the Eagles have had the season that they have. It's their offensive line that is the secret. Sauce yea and I do not disagree with that. Jason Kelsey the planet's best center. He's an All Pro. Lane Johnson an All Pro. The left tackle is six eight three to sixty five. He's a Pro Bowl alternate. That's gonna be a huge matchup against Nick Bosa. There's no question about that. So let me ask you this.

If both teams are excellent at getting to the quarterback and they are which quarterback is more equipped to handle the pressure and handle that defensive front. And is this finally where brock Purty looks like a rookie. We know brock Purty seven to oh and seven starts the twenty seventeen Arizona Cardinals high school Player of the Year from Gilbert.

We get all that, we know what he's looked like, But what do you think he's gonna look like against against an Eagles defense that has four guys with eleven or more sacks apiece, including former Cardinal Hassan Reddick was sixteen to nine. Yeah, and they've got the agelest one Brandon Graham. On the other side, he's got eleven said, what is he thirty four years old? He's a dude. He evolved, He is a dude. The Philadelphia Eagles can get after you, but you know, so can the forty

nine ers brock Purty. I've been saying this for the longest time that at some point in time, with brock Purty as their quarterback, the forty nine Ers, if they're gonna win a Super Bowl, they're gonna need brock Purty Paul to bring him back in a game in the fourth quarter. At some point in time, it's got to happen. It happens to almost every team as you continue to

go on in the playoffs. Rarely do you just lead a team in way lamb from the very beginning the first quarter all the way through and win the game. But at some point the forty nine ers gonna need brock Purty to win a game for him in the fourth quarter. Can he do it against the Philadelphia Eagles defense? And once again, it's just not the fact that they can get pressure on a quarterback with their seventy sacks as you said, and number one in sacks per attempt,

but they're also number six in interception ratio. That's turning over a quarterback. You put the two together, getting pressure on that quarterback and turning a quarterback over and that's one of the reasons why they're as good as they are defensively. Can it happen? I don't know, Ken brock Purty really say to himself. I know I'm in this situation. I know if I win this game, we're going to the Super Bowl. I know that we're down by three points.

I know there's only three minutes left on the clock. Can I actually take my team down the field and throw a touchdown pass and win the game. Because that's what every kid dreams of, Paul. Every kid dreams that scenario. And yet that scenario could come to fruition for brock Purty. I'm not gonna bet against the kid. Even when I say all of that, I'm not gonna bet against him because there's a something something that he's got and I like that, and he's got a great roster around him.

Don't count the forty nine ers out of this game. Recent history, though, says he's not going to get it done. The last four rookie quarterbacks who have started a conference championship game have lost. That list includes a Mark Sanchez, a big Bend. But brock Purty is the first rookie quarterback to start a conference title game in the last thirteen years. That is the stat right there. He has two playoff wins under his belt, already has no turnovers

those two playoff games. And on third down against Dallas and do you think the Dallas has a pass rush, Yes they do. Again third down against Dallas, he won eight of eleven for sixty four yards. So he was money in money moments, Paul think about this right here, brock Purty could win a super Bowl before he loses his first game, as I didn't think about think about that, folly.

Can you imagine? I mean, that's that is legit. If they go ahead and they beat Philadelphia somehow, some way, they find a way to do it, they're going to the super Bowl, and that means brock Purty is going to get a shot. Can you imagine if he actually wins a super Bowl before he loses his first game? That is stunning. You know, we talked about the leadership and the culture is set by Patrick Mahomes, how tough he was, especially in that last game. Just Joe Burrow,

what he's done for Cincinnati. Think about this. The Bengals had not won a playoff game in thirty one years until Joe Burrow had won a playoff game last season. So now you get around to a brock Purty. He's still pretty young, He's got seven starts under his belt. But look at second year guy Jalen Hurts and what Dallas Goddard was saying about Jalen Hurts and what he said before their playoff opener that with everyone in the lit room, he stood up and he said, I'm not

just hungry, I'm starving for this bleep. And he said, whatever Jalen Hurts does, he sets the tone for the entire team and everybody falls along with that. He is the unquestioned leader of this place. Quote unquote Dallas Goddard. So to me, when Kyler Murray sees this and the type of quarterback that has made it to the conference title game, I think there's a lot to learn there for every young quarterback. Yeah. No, that's great, PAULI, it

really is. And when the season started, the only question I had for the Philadelphia Eagles was Jalen Hurts. That That was the only question that I had. And you know, it's interesting because if you look at the AFC Championship game, as we just talked about with Joe Burrow of course and Patrick Mahomes, then you look at the NFC and you've got two guys that are going to have to prove something. We know Brock Purty, Oh my goodness. You talk about when you talk about a guy a quarterback

that needs to prove think of Brock party. He is the definition of that, a quarterback that needs to prove something. But also is Jalen Hurts because coming into the season with the Philadelphia Eagles, there were a lot of pundits locally in Philadelphia that we're talking about ye dude, just don't know if they can actually get it done with Jalen Hurts. And look at the kind of season this young guy has had. I am rooting for Jalen Hurts

the Eagles this year. When he starts, they're fifteen and one. So that's what you need to know about Jalen Hurts. And by the way, we talk all about the quarterbacks and the defense, and how about the run game. We know the Eagles just ran for two sixty eight against the Giants, but Phillies run defense was sixteenth this year, and we know all Kyle Shanahan and the Niners offense can run themselves some football. So we'll see how the

Eagles run defense fairs and this one on Sunday. Reminder it's episode fifty five of The Day Pash Podcast US with actor and comedian Frank Caliando. I laughed just thinking about that podcast. Followlong on Twitter at pashpod. Hey for Jim Almandro, Cody Fincher, and Ron Wolfley on Paul KELBC. This has been The Big Red Rage Number one. Tyler, You've been listening to The Big Red Rage presented by

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