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We are quoting former player guests this season of the Big Red Rage and potential future player host of the Big Red Rage. Heck, maybe even future color analyst of the Arizona Cardinals, Kelvin Beecham, who earlier this week on the NFL calendar, turning to the month of December, and

I quote, this is real football. So well, if you're not mentally ready at this moment for an extremely real edition of the Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, we are santan for this might be a good time to maybe I'll fake some technical difficulties, you know, come up with an excuse, save some face. If the moment is too big for you right now that it's December, Paula, I'm telling you, right now, you can feel it, can't you. You can feel how big this game is. It looms,

does it not? The Los Angeles Rams coming into State Farm Stadium. This is a huge, fulcrum type in the season. It'd be one thing if you were six and five as the Cardinals are, and hanging onto the last playoff spot as they are. It'd be another thing if, oh, I don't know, you've played five straight games decided by seven points or fewer, including four games that we're decided by three points or less, which, oh, by the way,

that's all true as well. But now it's all compounded, is it not, by the fact that you're welcoming in a Rams team and you've never beaten their head coach Sean McVeagh has won all six encounters against his division rival Cardinals and Rams. And the truth, as we mentioned, this is an extremely real addition of the Big Red Rage. The truth is it hasn't been close. The combined score of those six wins by the Rams one ninety five to fifty six. Oh my goodness, way, that's all brutal.

Right there. You know what I think of when I think of the Rams and I think of Sean McVay, I think of London. Did you remember if London? Paul? Right? You remember that was that that game? Paul got a little nasty, did it not? You want a quick, quick, poly postcard. So the Cardinals lose thirty three nothing, I believe was the final. Okay, thank you, Paul. It was the worst locker room set up you've ever seen. It was so cramped. It wasn't even made for like a

high school baseball team. It was so cramped. So then you get out of there that you do the interviews, and then you realize that we have fifteen hour trip home. I believe it was fourteen PM. Off's fifteen, but it was fourteen, they said. And I'm standing in line at Heathrow and Customs waiting to get on the flight and I turn around because there's this big, hulking guy behind me, and I look and it's our starting quarterback, Carson Palmer and his arms in a sling, and he's done for

the year. It can always get worse, Paul, And it did at that moment. There's no doubt about it. I think about Rams. This is going to be the most physical game of the season right now. This game is going to be one and lost on the line of scrimmage. Make no mistake and a gross simplification of the truth, Polly, It's gonna be one and lost in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Can I name drop for just a minute, because different games are circled on a

calendar by different players for different reasons. If you're an offensive lineman, do you think when the schedule comes out every April that perhaps you look to see where the Rams are. If you're an offensive lineman, well, more specifically, you look to see where Aaron Donald is. Exactly. I bring that up. And the name drop is Carson Palmer himself, because they did a broadcast with him earlier this week and I asked him about the all time best defenders

he ever played against. He said there were three, and immediately he identified three Ed Reid, Troy Polamalo, and there was another guy that he said he truly feared going against Aaron Donald. Paul, Yeah, you know, I'm surprised. Did you sit down with Carson somewhere and have a maskless lunch somewhere Bold It was a zoom podcast slash broadcast. We covered a lot of topics, and he said, he said,

the thing about Aaron Donald that was so imposing. It's one thing if the guy's on the edge, but when he's sitting there in the a gap and you're under center, and you realize that I'm going to be in three steps into a seven step drop and he could be on my back, he said, you realize this could be

a You weren't eating of salami talking to him. Paul Marcus Golden, our guest on the Big Red Rage, snapped Newton, he's just gonna take a running left, but he's got running room at the forty heads for the sideline, gets drilled by Simmons on the far side of the forty six head. A flag comes down. Newton got the first down and Simmons hit him, blads, that's gonna put the

ball in Cardinal territory. Oh my goodness, he was in rounds when he got hit fifty yard attempt to win the game for Nick Folk tied at seventeen, three seconds to go. Bulk is ready, snap, ball is down, the kick is up, the kick is good, and the Patriots win the game twenty to seventeen, a brutal loss for the Cardinals. Zen Gonzalez misses a field goal, the Patriots make one and they went at twenty to seventeen, and the Cardinals fall to six and five, game winning kicked.

There was a kin to a kick to the gut as the Cardinals fall in New England. Quoting Cam new no all about the quotes on this addition to the big Red rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. I'd rather have an ugly win than suffer a pretty loss. And Cam, you put the ugly into ugly win. There's no doubt about that. Nine of eighteen passing just eighty four yards through the air against at Cardinals defense. He had a passer rating sub twenty four. Zero touchdown passes,

two picks. They're scoring drives, Old wolfiaskill, wait a minute, how exactly did New England win when their quarterback had a passer rating a twenty three point six. They had less than two hundred total yards, but their scoring drives covered forty six, thirty five, thirty one, and thirty three yards. Well, I don't think you have to ask yourself after you say that right there, when you say those numbers, Paul,

I think about this. The Patriots had sixteen first down twelve first downs if you eliminate how they got penalties and first downs. Think about that, Paul. First downs in the game. There were four eleven on third down, which is bad. They had one hundred and seventy nine yards overall. Is this is You just do not win football games with those kind of numbers. Right there, And as soon as you hear those numbers, the first thing I think

of is a failure on the offensive side of the ball. Yeah, and you know what, you got the fast start you wanted. That's what's so vexcine about this. Remember we did Cliff Kingsbury's TV show last week. At this time, he said, you know what, I'm so tired of talking about getting a fast start and stressing and emphasizing a practice. I'm doing the opposite. I'm not mentioning at all. So what happens third play of the game. Our guest tonight on the big red rage Marcus Goldman his first career pick.

We'll talk to him about that. They convert that into a touch the first play from scrimmage nineteen yards, but it was the longest play from scrimmage all game. They get out to the ten nothing lead. But again, it's how the game ends and the way the first half ended where the Cardinals didn't get any points on that fateful fourth and one, it was really fourth and six inches and Kenyan Drake got stopped and after the game, Wolf the Patriots site of that as an emotional motivational lift.

They outscored the Cardinals ten nothing coming out a halftime. And the rest is what about that halftime sequence. Now that you've processed it, and I know you've been asked about this wherever you go, what do you make of that decision? The decision to go for it? Are you kidding me? Had a fifteen play drive, right, there was fourth in six inches for the most part, maybe five inches. Bully, I'm lining up and I'm going to go forward in that situation. Yes, I know, I'm getting the ball after

the half. I understand that, but to me, you're on the road, you're playing the Patriots. It was a message of confidence to your offensive line and to your guys.

And I can tell you right now, Polly, if in fact Cliff Kingsbury did not go for it in that situation and kicked the field goal, which basically would have would have deflated everybody, I think it could have had a bigger impact in in halftime on those players going in there thinking, man, the coach does not believe we could actually pick that up and score a touchdown and

take the lead going into this game. I honestly, to me, I look at that and think there could have been bigger damage that was actually done by attempting field goal in that situation. That's interesting. I didn't think about that. You would know that having spent a decade in the NFL and being in those locker rooms. For me, I was screaming take the points just because the opponent you were playing was having such a tough time generating points.

It's one thing if you're playing the Chiefs of Mahomes. Heck, if you're playing the Rams and Jared Goff and Sean McVay, I get it. But can I tell you, Paulie, honestly, it's an old saying, and this is true, especially amongst players. If we can't get fourth in six inches, we don't deserve to win, period. Kyler Murray on a common theme in the recent losing string three of the last four. In the games that we've lost, we've just kind of found a way to shoot ourselves in the foot, you know.

And a lot of games that we feel like we should have won, we come out and we, you know, shoot ourselves in the foot. And it's not a good feeling to keep doing that over and over again. You know. We just we got to clean it up. You know, it's pretty obvious. I think everybody watching it sees it. There's another theme, by the way, after the Seattle and New England game, and it's the defensive players from both sides talking about how they were helping on not letting

Kyler Murray run. In fact, Adrian Phillips, their safety linebacker for the Patriots, said, we really made sure that no matter what we're gonna we're gonna pressure this guy. We're gonna bring it after him. We're just not fixing to let him run around. So wolf have these defenses adjusted here recently, and how has that impacted Kyler and the Cardinals offense? Because you know the question he's heard most this week. Can the Cardinals win? Can the Cardinals be

effect of an offense if you're not running the ball? Yeah, Paully, there's no doubt about it. A defensive game plan, it's starting to formulate. In regard to how you're gonna play Kyler Murray. You're you're gonna play heavy on the edges. You're not gonna let him get outside of the pocket. You're gonna keep him in front of you. You're gonna collapse the pocket around you. It's gonna be a lot

of five man pressure collapsing that pocket around. You're not going to let him throw the ball down the field. You're gonna make Kyler Murray beat you with his arms, not his leg, his arm. And that right there, PAULI, is a dangerous proposition because we know he's accurate. We know we can throw the ball down the field. But man, right now, it's clear Bill Belichick at least made that statement.

You made Kyler Murray beat you with his arm. I tell you, from October through mid November, Kyler Murray ran for a touchdown at least one touchdown in five straight games. The Cardinals went four and one the last two games. He had fifteen yards on the ground against Seattle, thirty one on the grounds against New England losses thirty one yards or less of rushing for Kyler Murray has a Cardinal. The Cardinals are one nine and one. That's real, Paul.

We'll talk to you, Marcus Golden. Next on the big red rage Arnal shelling blitz. Here they Tom snapped. The Newton gets hit, ball flutters up in the air and picked off by Golden at the twenty three yard line and he's tackled. There is pressure backside Cam Newton's arm was hit, the ball popped up into the air and it's picked off by Golden. Oh what a great way to start on the first series. They came after him a six man rush. It was Jordan Hicks who knocked

the ball into the air. About that the first third down of the game in New England, Wolf, there's you and pass. There's an old saying. Dave calls his college basketball and NBA old saynt and hoops that the ball finds energy right, Yes, So it's only fitting that when Jordan Hicks storms the pocket and the balls up in the air, boom that it ends up in the midst of our special guest. Great to have him back in Arizona. Great to have him back on the Big Red Rage.

Say good evening to Marcus Golden. Marcus, how are you doing? How are you doing? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Great to be back. I apprechase you man if I feel good to be able to talk to you all again and build as Marcus, Thank you so much, buddy. It's great talking to you as well. How physical was this game against the Patriots? In terms of games that

you've played, How physical was this one? It was up there, It was up there, I was I was pretty sore after the game Sunday and then Monday woke up at a little sore. So you know, it was a run heavy game. They came down here running a lot of line and was putting. So it was one of them games that I like to be a part of. The shoot. I'm assuming that you turned that football into a souvenir. What are your plans for your first career interception the

football itself? Do you have it there at the house, Yes, I got it. I got it here, I got it. I hadn't picked it up from my locker today and putting in the car and took it with me. Man, so I probably I probably did saved. I'm gonna have to say this one from myself. Man, give it to my son when you get a little older, son. Well, but this one pretty special, so I'm gonna keep this one. You heard the play by play, Passion Wolf. Give us your play by play, Marcus. Take us through that play

and then pulling the balls up in the air. Oh so yeah, yes, like you said, then the place started. I went from rushing and before you know what, Jordan's hits. I saw him coming in fast. Jordan made it happen. He went and I did the hard work, and that he did that the ball was in the hurt and then of course it felt like it was in the earth forever. I'm sitting there watching the ball in slow motion, and then it came right to me. I just had to jump up a bit, and then it came right

in my hands and I caught it. I'm like, okay, let me try to run. But they was only pretty quick. I didn't do nothing. You wanted to get that thing right I did. Then I did. I want to go back to my old running back day when I caught it, but they got on you quick, so he was like, I just take this. When I went right to the sideline, told Jordan, thank Marcus. Did you get the opportunity to hit Cam Newton? And did that hurt you when you

hit him? No? I ain't get to tend I wanted to, but but uh no, No, I ain't get Cam a good quarterback. Man ain't pretty being probably the biggest quarterbacker I ever faced the marker, but he for either still got it in him. Man still got a lot in him, was out there running around. But I got a lot of respect for Candim. I mean, Marcus, take us through that game. In the takeaways for your defense. Two interceptions by the Cardinals defense. They had less than two hundred

yards total offense. Cam at eighty four yards passing, no touchdown passes. This passer rating was twenty three points six. So yeah, you know, you tell me what was the film session like this week? Because there was so much the like about what the defense did except for the final score. Yes, of course, of course, when you played with half a game like that as a defense, everybody

was excited to have you. But that's what I respect about this defense and just from me being here from my short time to being hit through the season, that's been good to see because we moved right on. We moved. We look at the mistakes. We celebrate what we did, but we look we try to go in and fix the mistakes and move on. But it was pretty exciting to watch the field. And when you have a game like that, you got to give him credit to the

coaching man. The coaching put a good game playing together and we went out there on extra and it felt good to go out there and, like like Wolf said, had a physical game and come out on top in the stats. But of course you want to always get to win, but it felt good to get out there and have a good, big game as a defense. Marcus, what was the game plan defensively in terms of defending Cam Newton in this Patriots offense? Can you give us

a couple of pointers on that? Really? You really you knew it was gonna be a physical game, and the game plan was to get out there and these physical and do what we had to do to stop the run. And uh, and of course coaching grew up some good plays and everything that was able to. Of course Cam didn't have a good day passing, so coaching there up grew up with some good plays. And but that what I just said, we played real hard and coach coach guy, that's right there week and we was able to get

out there and execute. You know, we've been giving Advanced Joseph props pretty much all season, but when you look at this now, you know, you realize here as we go into Week thirteen, sixteen different Cardinals defenders have at least one sack that leads the NFL. Twenty four different players have started a game on defense this season for

Advanced Joseph. Just tell me about the degree of difficulty and trying to get everyone dialed in and how much more impressive that is considering, yes, that is, that's some good numbers. That's something I didn't even know about that. So yeah, I got a like just when playing with the last couple of games and being here, man, I love playing in this defense is physical. You get out there, you get to get out there and compete and try

to make play. So I got a lot of respect for him and what he's doing up man out and I'm glad to be a part of on third down. Marcus, talk to me a little bit about scheme and what you guys are doing. Would you would you characterize yourself as an aggressive defense on third down? Or doesn't matter more game by game and game plan. Yeah. Of course in the NFL you play so many different teams each week, so of course you go by the game playing and

what you're playing each week. But at the same time, you get to get like I said, you get to get out there and compete and be aggressive and try to get out of the quarterback in this defense and a course for a player like me, I love to come and be a part of a defense. Bit you talk about getting after the quarterback or on board with Marcus Golden Cardinals twenty fifteen second round pick here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert

and you talk about getting after the quarterback. I think of Isaiah Simmons at the end of the game and that Mondo hit on cam by the way once again, everybody now he was in bounds. But we know how it works. You know it works, Marcus. You hit the quarterback too hard, they're likely to throw the flag. Tell Us about Isaiah Simmons, especially the past couple of weeks as he's flashed, and just tell us about his progress

and what you've seen. Oh yeah, he of course, man on that play was out there compete and trying to make him play for the team to win. So you can't do number respected, especially for from a young player that that from being here, being here with him, he's been being able to make plays and help us out on the defensing. I'm excited for Him'm excited for him. Of course, he got a bright future. You can see him just from the plays he's been making. He got

a real bright future, and I'm excited for him. You know what, Marcus, I love the fact that he put the wood to Cam Newton right there, right, I mean that that bodes well to me. It looked like, I mean, Cam's a big guy, and he was running fast and it was legal and it was in bonds, and he stuck to the shoulder on him good and he pulled his head. He did everything right. That's why he felt so bad for him. But based on what you've seen right now, will will Isaiah Simmons stick his face into

the fire. That's my question. Hey, that's what he just said he. I guess he proved it with that play right there, hitting Cam and and showing that each trying to win and showing that each trying to compete and actually win the game, and that, like I said, I respect that, especially coming from a young player. And that's what I see. And if he get out there each weekend and he competing, he competing in practice, and he

working hard to try to win the game. So I've got a lot of respect for him, and he got a bright future. How much are you thinking is a defender these days? Is it tougher than ever to play? Do you have to think before you hit? No? No, I'm not. You know how when you get out there and play football, you just know guy had been playing it the right way. I feel like it ain't been too many penalties, especially with the teams I've been the

defenses I've been playing with. But you had those penalties sometime. But I don't feel like you got to think when you out there. At the end of the day, you got to play football at fast and physical, But I don't feel like guys out there thinking if you just sometimes those type of players have well, before the Cardinals, there was Missouri. There was MISSOI for Marcus Golton. Before that, there was another football experience with a current teammate who's

on the Cardinals defense. We'll get into that, and Bill, if you realize that Marcus Golton has already played the Rams this year with the Giants, he's already so he's gonna play him three times in the regular season, We'll get into that as well. It is a big red rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford. Newton takes the snap. He's gonna give it to Harris up the middle, and he's drilled by Devandre Schambell. Pitched to Harris running left side, and he's in trouble behind

the line of scrimmage and thrown the ground. It's by Campbell. Here's a jet sweep to Harry on the far side. Devondre Campbell has it sniffed out. Newton drops back the throne, steps up in the pocket, gets hit by Devondre Campbell at sack at the twenty five yard line. You want to talk about bring your own energy. The defense certainly did no doubt the yoe bring your own energy. It is necessary on the road I mean, it really is strange when you're in these road venues and there's not

a single fan. You know, Cardinals are gonna have a smattering of fans on Sunday, but it is vital and we see what happens when the Cardinals have not had that energy. There was the lass against Carolina Wolf. Of course Marcus Golden was not there for that. Anytime Marcus

is around, you're guaranteed as some energy. He's our guests here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert tell us about that the dynamic of being on the road because Marcus, if I listen to you guys in years past, so much of what you guys brought into the road was us against them, and you're feeding off the fans and the haters, right and they're behind your bench. Well, how different is it and how difficult can it be at times when you don't have

that element firing you up? Yes, yes, I gotta admit to that. Man. I was one because early be like practice, I'll be able to get out there bring out own energy. But yeah, when you're playing the way games and there ain't no fans there, it's it's different. It's a lot different than what we used to is. So you know the fans, you need the fans, you need to trash talk to the noise, the fans being allowed when the other team scores, like when you get in fact, you

hear the noise. It's just it's just different. It's a lot different than But that's well, that's a helpful to healthful. We can get that back. But that's why I appreciate playing the Arizona because our fans that that was pretty pretty good. That was pretty good for the last game I played in as the home game, Marcus, do you feel any pressure that you've got to be that guy that you've got to be the energy guy that you have to be, that your teammates need to feed off

that energy that you need to lead that way. Do you feel any pressure? No, No, not at all, not at all. There's just who I am and when I'm playing the game, might get out there and compete and have fun, and especially with what's going on now, you got to really do that. So I just I appreciate being in the NFL and especially being back in Arizona and being able to be a cardinal again. So I got enough that's enough for me to get out there and want to compete, or I don't. I don't feel

no pressure at all. Well, it's all about you. Presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Marcus Golden. We're gonna hit the rewind button here because you mentioned you're a cardinal, you're a giant, and then you are a cardinal to start your NFL career. Before that, you were a Missoo Tiger, and then right before that, you were a Blue Dragon.

I was not aware of this, but our own Jim Amahundro, fine producer and former Saint Louis Guy himself made us aware that you were a member of the Hutchinson Community College Blue Dragons in Kansas. And you aren't the only one in this Cardinals defense Phillis in. Yes, that's true. That's true. So uh when I when I left from high school, I had ended up going to junior college out in Hudgerson Campus, like you said, playing playing in

duco with Hutchinson Community College and Divine Dre Campbell. He was my roommate up there. He was my roommate while we was up in Hutchinson. And then that's crazy and meet him talk about it at least once a week or every other day. High Its crazy that we're playing on the same team in the NFL. So that's that's a pretty good story, man. And then I'm excited for him because I really got to see him putting the hard work back in the day, and he got to

see me putting the hard work. So that's that's that's amazing to be able to be on the field with him. Come on, now, come on now, brother, come on, Marcus, tell us a story, all right, tells a story from Hutchinson Community College. Who was the voice of reason? Marcus? You know between the two of you when you guys were roommates, who was the crazy guy and who was the voice of reason? You know, it was the rational guy. Now, man,

we used to be chillers. Man, he was killing. It's pretty different man, when you when you in duco, Man, duco pretty different. So I mean we helped each other out a lot. Man. I had his back, he had my back, and uh, that's really what it was. Man. He was a good deal man. And like I said,

I'm excited. I'm glad that he was able to do what he did because, like we it's crazy because we really was young kids coming out of high school, and and then Duke go with each other and now we understand the NFL team, and so I'm proud of him, man, And then it's a good feeling to be able to play with him. Marcus, when you were at Hutchinson, did you ever think he'd play in the NFL? Yes, yes, I did, man. That was if I if I didn't think I would play in the NFL, I wouldn't even

went out to Hutchinson and wasted my time. Husson, Husson. It's pretty different, man, So yeah, that was the only reg Like, what what town is it that? Uh, it's it's up in Kansas. It's Hunch It's yeah, it's a small town. You know, Like I never was driving up with my mom and dad were driving and I'm like, I'm saying the dirt road and I'm like, oh man, it didn't different. It's different. So it was it was a town that I wanted to get out of. Of course,

I appreciate it. It was a good experience. I learned a lot of you. I'm glad it was happening to me because I learned the lot of became Matrore. But but uh, it ain't nothing that I want to go back to. You've been more desperate. Yeah, I mean you're a city guy, right, you grew up in Saint Louis and then all of a sudden you're on a dirt road. Uh Hutchinson communication. But you know what you know, you

know what's amazing is I mean it's a certified football factory. Yeah, I mean you Alvin Kamara, Corderyl Patterson, Gerald Everett, the Rams tight end. These these are some of the names that went through Hutchinson. Marcus. Yes, yes, I played with Cordelle Patterson. Man, it was it wasn't a lot of great players up there that didn't make it, man. So that's that's that's the thing about junior college. You learned

a lot from their own in the field. Man. You gotta you really know if you really wanted to not going to junior college, especially up the Hutchinson And like I said, I don't want to make it seem like it was a bad thing. I had a great experience and met a lot of great people, so and I let a lot of great people in the town. So I got a lot of respect for Hutchinson. But but it was, it was, it was. It was. It was a good experience, but I would have to get to him to do and be able to move along to

the NFL. Well, forget about Hutchinson, Okay for the time being right now, but talk a little bit about Davondre Campbell, your former ROOMI and his NFL experience. When you look at him play, what do you respect about Devondre Campbell in his game? I always what I always knew if he was smart man, even like in junior college, he always knew the plays, always been telling people what to do. So that's one thing. And I knew he react fast man, the big guy that reacts fast and always flying around.

So and that's what I respected about him most man. You know how to he know everybody's job. Even with me this being here and sometimes not knowing exactly what to do, he was able to help me out. So that's what That's one thing about it. He's smart and he get to fly around the field and you're not kidding. I mean he really gets sidelined to sideline, doesn't he. You know when I first saw him, when he showed up, I'm like, wow, I mean he's standing eight eye knows

the knows with Isaiah Simmons. He's the same size, you know, I'm guessing the forty obviously isn't the same. But for that size, he definitely has the speed and especially in that game against New England, like he wasn't the first month of the season. Man, You just he was always

around the ball. Yeah, yes, he was flying around, man, And that's what that's what he always been a guy to fly around and know everybody got on the field is That's why I'm even more excited to be on the field with him because I feel like me and him on the same on the same defense, and then we got a good team. Can you talk about the

confidence of the defense right now? Can you actually bring us up to speed on where you think you guys are, because as you know, Marcus, it's so important to be confident. Not only individually is a football player when you're competing at the highest level our species can to generate, but also collectively. Talk about the confidence level on the defense

right down? Like I said, and like I said, I haven't been heard this whole year, but me coming in and being able to play with the defense, that's what I respect about the most. A lot of confident guys and they actually believe. We believing in each other and believing in the coaches. So that's what I respect the most. And we're flying around in practice, and like I said, even when we get out there and do the good stuff, we come back and we were all excited to fix

the mistakes. So that's what that's what I noticed most is about the defense. Anytime you got a mindset like that, I know that you got a chance for some success on the field for sure. Well, look, we know you already played the Rams this season when you were with the Giants, and you went to so Far Stadium where the Cardinals are gonna end up the season. So we're

gonna get into the Rams next. And what exactly needs to happen against Sean McVay Jared Goal try and crack the code of this Rams offense and get the Cardinals a much needed win. Right now, they are a game behind the Rams. Of course, they're only a game ahead

of the forty nine ers. The NFC is about as tight as we thought, as competitive as we thought, and down the stretch we come in December football, so when we come back, we'll get into this the matchup against the Ram's offense and what exactly the Cardinals have to do to beat La. It is the Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford and Gilbert our special guest Marcus Golden. As we continue with the Big Red Rage here on this Thursday evening, got back to pass up third and long.

Instead he is sacked by Marcus Golden. The junkyard dog got a treat. Goff is gonna get hit at the twenty and sacked by Golden. Steps up and gets hit and sacked Marcus Golden another sack. I guarantee you right now, Jared Goff doesn't have a single hair on his back. You can hear that dog barking right now, Marcus Golden. There you go a little montage. I mean, it's just that's great stuff. You Wolf does some of his best work with you edge rushers, whether it's you or Chandler Jones. Marcus,

you know he enjoys he boom. He gets out of his seat in the radio booth when you guys make a play off the edge. I'm telling you, by the way, we saw that against the Rams, and here on the Big Red Rage before we go to the Rams twenty twenty,

how you already played the Rams. We want to go back to twenty seventeen in London and the cardinals very first game against Sean McVay, and you tell us, do you vividly remember hearing Sean mcvay's voice out of the headset through the ear holes of Jared Goff as he was under center at the line of scrimmage, and up until fifteen seconds are left in the play clock, you can hear his play caller and head coach barking out orders and instructions to his young quarterback. Do you remember that? No, No,

I don't remember that. I remember guys talking about it and everything and guy saying that that was what was going on, but I was Actually I didn't get to play in that game that year, but I remember guys talking about it and Channing and was talking about it, but they said it was crazy. So yeah, I remember, but I didn't get You ain't get the chance to get out there with him. So tat us talk to us about what it's like to play a team that basically owns you. Sean McVeigh has actually been the head

coach in LA. The Rams have won six straight games against the Cardinals. Do you guys think about at all coming into this game. No, not a dogar. This is my first time fun knowing about that too. So no, I mean, you know, you got a lot of respect for Simon Fagan and what they'd been doing out there with the Rams, and I didn't been able to play. I played against him this year, and I got a lot of respect for him. But we're gonna be ready

to get out there and compete. And then when you look now finding that out, you look forward to getting out there and competing with him, competing with him even more. All right, So when guys ask you this week, all right, what's that Ram's offense all about twenty and twenty you already played him. What were some of your main takeaways after going against that offense? The same thing. And they talented. They got some talented receivers over the Cooper, Uh, he

real talented men. And you got the quarterback. I feel like he's good even though his coaches people say his coach is telling him what to do. He's the guy out there making the plays and making the throw. And I got a lot of respects for golfing, and so that's what they got. They got a lot of talents to guys out bet talk about the running attack, because to me, I think it's something that they've got to

develop a little bit more. But when you watch him on tape, talk about the offensive line, if you don't mind Marcus and the running backs, Yeah, the offensive line, you you got to respect a couple hold of guys. Of course, uh if he's daning right now. So you got another guy, he's been playing pretty good, number seven. He's been playing pretty good out there and come stepping in for wit Worth and the running the backs. I remember playing them fairly on when I was with the Giants.

Have some young running backs and those guys were running hard. That just from Watton Finn, you can tell they've been getting better at the season going on. So and like I said, you've got to respect that offense. They got some coming excited to get to play them. And last time I played them, I didn't really get to play a lot out there, and so I only played a few plays. So to get out there and be able to compete against the Rims, I'm always excited to get

out and compete against the Rings. You know, the book on Jared Goff here over the past month or so, guys, is that he's been struggling with his downfield throws. He has ten turnovers in the last four games, even though he had only four turnovers in the first seven games.

Something's going on. They're not throwing downfield as much and it's really resulted in Sean McVeigh relying on a lot of short passes and screens and apparently the Niners, Robert Salad, the defensive coordinator, took advantage of that and then they were able to get to Jared goff Vance Joseph your defensive coordinator, Marcus talking today about that need to get into the backfield. Obviously applying some pressure to the quarterback is as always, kid, I'll keep the pass game to

a minimum. This quarterback is very accurate. He throws the ball with great timing, and he has two great targets. He throwing the ball too, that's cupping woods, you know. So it's it's going to be a challenge to get those guys are contained with the pass game. To what degree is it critical that you try and disguise what you're doing, not only the front end, but the back end as well, just to try and get Jared Golf and or any quarterback just thinking from snap to snap Marcus. Yeah,

that's that's really important. You've got a lot of smart quarterbacks. That's that's most quarterbacks in the NFL, real smart and talented and got big on them. So you want to be able to switch it up on him. You know, you can't keep throwing the same thing get him. But at the end of the day, you got to be able to get after him, especially a guy like Golf. He got a big arm and got some good targets and cupping woods, and he can really get the ball

out quick and he can make some big throws. So you got to be able to get after him up front. It's so much like I keep saying, that's something I look forward to. You know, it's interesting, Marcus, because so much of the time, I think an offense that plays with leads right, I think edge rushers and leads go very very well together. I think an offense that gives a team a lead, does it make your job easier? And if it does, how uh me? For me? I never really got into aller that of course you want

to do. If you get up and you gotta lead in the game, you be able to rush more because the other team is passing. But like I said, when you play a team like the Rims, you're expecting them to pass anyway, big time quarterback back there, and you know you're gonna be able to have a chance to

get after the quarterback going against the Rims. But of course when you got it, when you got a good offense, and playing with the Cardinals with Kylin Mury here and he's being able to get the ball in his own a lot, leading leading the offense, of course they helps out a lot too. Marcus. I've got to ask you this right here because I'm sorry, Pauli, but this is incredible, Marcus,

your approach to the game of football. It to me, it sounds like the more and more I talk to you, you don't care what the scores, you don't care what the quarter is, you don't care who you're playing, you don't care. You're gonna play every play the exact same way. If that is true, it's tell me if that's true. Markets of course, of course that's true. Man. I feel like, if if you ain't playing like that, you ain't trying to win the game. And anytime I step on the field,

that's exactly what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to get out there and do whatever I got to do to help my team win. So and I know and I know landing on the line that's gonna be able to help the team. So where do you get that from? Where does that come from? It you really that that's just how I was brought up, man. I just feel like being from Saint Louis and growing up in Saint Louis, that's just the mentality you gotta have that. I was able to take that mentality and take it to the

football field, and I've been able to have success with him. Man. So that's just how I play the game. And then he goes back to like I said at the end of the day. I know I keep saying it, but I feel like, if you want to win, you got to be able to play like that. And at the end of day, I'm trying to win. No Wonder, Walf

and I think just cracked that code. Guy's feed off his energy, right, No Wonder, he's that catalyst on a defense, Marcus Golden, I'll throw this at your Marcus Wilf And I've been doing this long enough that we've seen teams come into State Farm Stadium and they have these highly rated defenses. Right, the opposing defense is getting all this praise.

And here's the Rams. They're the number one scoring defense, and they're number two in total defense, and they have Aaron Donald and and that can tend to fire up the Cardinals defense when they hear the opposing defense get all these props and praise. What do you think is that? Is that a little bit of that dynamic this week? Perhaps not? I haven't felt that at all. I haven't felt like that about it. I feel like it's more of a It's a rival game, man, you know you

like you said, it's a rival game. We played them every year, and like me being from Saint Louis, Missouri and growing up a Rams fan and all of that, So that's what I look more towards. It a rival game. And and then and it's and it's a December game, so you know it's gonna be a physical game. You know it's gonna be exciting. And that's what I look for too. You know what, Marcus stayed left Saint Louis, so you owe him one, you know, on behalf of

everyone in Saint Louis, all your friends and family. You need to take it out on the Rams. No, No, we already getting paid them back for that one. Man. So now now I just want to get out there and get our bank, compete and win. But we can, but we can be able to move on and keep competing. Man, Definitely, I'm definitely I'm focusing on right now. Marcus. Just remember I played for the Rams my last year in nineteen ninety five in Saint Louis. Man, Oh, it was fantastic

being back in Saint Louis as well. Marcus. Thank you man, thank you so much for your time. Brother. We appreciate it. I appreciate you guys. Always good talking for you. Thanks for having our pleasure. Marcus, thank you very much, outstanding. I ran into him in the team Hotel Wolf in the meal room. He couldn't see it. I' this massive smile on my face. You couldn't see it because as

we're in a mask, but they're always smiling. We're on, Marcus Golden will come back RAPP issue for the Big Red Range presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Nobody give us a chance. Hey, we play together. We know why House, That's why I hit the story him. Man's I want you, He's Rod. What's up, what come and get it? Wow, the unmistakable voice of former Cardinal the late great Kwami Lasseter.

He would have been fifty one today. Ron Wolfley passed away in January twenty nineteen, first player host of the Big Red Rage circa two thousand and two. That was right about the time when Kwami Laster had that nine interception season. I mean, some unbelievable football played by the former Cardinals safety and a guy who also played for the Chargers and wrapped up with the Rams. He played

in Saint Louis two thousand and four. And this is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert and the Rams of the team on the schedule not once but twice over these final five games. And well, as you've been looking at film and just based on pass games, six games, six losses against Sean McVeagh, is there one common theme or threat. Is there something that he's able to do to get over on the Cardinals

year to year and have such success. Yeah, for the most part, Polly, I would say turnovers and fuel position. I think this is going to be critical in this game. I just want to comment on Kuami, if you don't mind Polly. Yeah, I'm so sorry about this, but I have to do this. When I think of Quami Lasseter Polly, I think of love and respect. It fills me in my heart love and respect for him and Polly. We're talking awful lot about legacy, right people. What's your legacy? Ed?

What is your lega sayed? You know what, Honestly, that's what his legacy is. When you think of Quamiami Quami, the love and respect that I have in my heart for him. He's sorely missed, There's no doubt about that. But i'd a you think of Quami, you can't help but smile. He can't. He was always he was always the bright spot in the room, always the nicest guy in the room. Yea. At the same time, he head have fun with you in trash talky, especially out on a golf course. Oh my goodness, can get a golf

ball as well? Wow? Could he play? Yes? I mean well, how many Cardinals charity golf events did we m see the Quami one? Yeah? Exactly, Bali, But going back to this game right here, so forgive me for that ball. But field position is going to be paramount in this game. I mean, anytime you talk about field position as well. Look to your special teams and they control field position where the other team starts their drives and where your

team starts their drives. It's critical, and that's field position, and that is controlled by the transition teams. And we know the Arizona Cardinals are coming off maybe their work first game in the Jeff Rogers era as special teams coordinator that they've probably played. Right now, Jeff Rogers talking about a guy I got so much regard and respect for a guy that is an awesome special teams coach. He's not going to abide this very well. I expect the special teams to play a lot better. But then

turnovers as well. Dictate where drives start, don't they, Paul and I can tell you that's where they need to win. This game is turning over. Jared Goff well, and that's where the Rams have lost recently. Goff has the ten turnovers in the last four games. And to the point where there's one thing that Sean mcvaan Cliff King's right, Probably several things they have in common, but one of them is Sean McVay never ever will cite a player

and hoist any criticism to the media. Everything when it goes wrong is the fault to the head coach, except this past week when he said our quarterback needs to stop turning over the football. Yep, and Jared Goff heard it loud and clear, because it's probably the only time Sean McVay has ever named name in that regard. But it's very real, is it not. I mean, those who cover the Rams talk about he's not throwing it down

field and they're settling for short passes in screens. I just don't see the Arizona Cardinals ripping off ten play drives, twelve play drives, fifteen play drives against his defense. I just do not see that this defense is elite. And if that's the case, man field position where they get the ball, turnovers, takeaways, this is gonna be huge. That's

to me, that's how they beat the Rams. Turnover Jared Goff, You realize their number one ranks scoring defense, number two in total d They allow only four point four points per game in the second half this season. Think about that. Yeah, special. Thanks Jim Almandro, Cody Fincher, Marcus Golden here on the Big red rate, Ron Wolf play on PAULKALBC, have a great night everyone. Number one, Tyler, You've been listening to

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