Big Red Rage - Sanders Expects Refreshed A.J. Green

State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts, Visit acy Cardinals dot Com, Slash podcasts, The Rod sn rising ar temperaturizing vision, flurring, rage taking over. Here's Paul CALVC. Get the popcorn ready, It's gonna be a show and Ron will flip. It doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the far. He start with two words, what if three weeks from tonight, Ron Wolfley, the two thousand and twenty one NFL Draft

will commence in Cleveland. You're gonna go socratic, Paul. So every single sentence basically starts with the words, what if, Right about now, as we near mid April, what if Kyler Murray broke the huddle this season? Ron Wolfley an eleven personnel and at one receiver on the outside is DeAndre Hopkins. And at the other receiver at the other side outside aj Green, and in the slot Christian Kirk. Okay, check that box. Did I mention it's eleven personnel? Because

at tight end? What if it was Kyle Pitts, the rookie Yata, Florida. How about that, PAULI? Eleven personnel right there, one back, one tight end, three wide receivers, and it was Kyle Pitts. You know what, I don't like that, Paul. I don't like that eleven personnel with Kyle Pitts at tight end. And the reason why I don't like it is he's not a stud tight end. It's not a

guy that's gonna move somebody off the ball. Now, if you're talking George Kittle, Now, all of a sudden, you got a guy like George Kittle that can obviously catch the ball, make plays down the field, but also as an excellent blocker. Eleven personnel, Maybe you're talking twelve personnel, Polly, one back, two tight ends with Kyle Pitts as one of those tight ends. Maybe the move tight end? Is that what you're talking about, Polly? No, And I'm not

the one talking. See, I'm not the one who's talking about it here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and go. We are Santan Ford, my guy Peter Schreger, who you tried to poach two years ago as your guy Peter Schreger in the lobby of that hotel I wrote, did not my guy Peter Schreger, who you honed in on our conversation while we're having some coffee that Sunday morning. He's the one proposing this trade.

We'll get into it a little bit later. Let's just say he's saying that Steve Kim will join the rest of the division and trade away future first round picks to make this happen and move up to number seven, a trade with a Lion. So that's that's fall. Wait a minute, ball, are you talking about a mock draft? You're talking about a mock draft here. First of all, it's just without trades. Just think about it right now.

How accurate our mock drafts without trades. Now we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna throw in the trade possibility. I'm glad you asked. Because VP of Media Relations Mark Dalton, I believe he has crunched the numbers historically over the last couple of decades and last conversation with Mark, I believe the figure was two point seven picks per thirty two in the first round typically are correct. Think about that. So in the first round we got somebody out there

doing four round mocks. It's a low percentage, although this year with the cork about an exercise and futility ball. Okay, so what about this a little bit later here in the Big Red Rage. Not only do we have Frank Sanders coming our way, former Cardinals receiving great who always brings some outstanding analysis, we had to book him again. Well done, good get by our Jim almahundro. But we're gonna hear from Ron Wolfley from the Larry Fitzgerald Update desk.

Are we not wolf You have something for us? You have a headline that's ready to be made here on the Big Red Rage. I have no idea what you're talking about, but I will tell you right now if you get if you go ahead and move up, you get Kyle Pitts, you might as well just go ten personnel. Isn't that what you're in already? Yeah? Pretty much you're right, you're well, you know, Paulie, I'm just saying, let's go, here we go. You lost Dan Arnold, who now is

going to be catching passes from Sam Darnold. So Sam Darnold to Dan Arnold is what's going on in Carolina? Not so. But what we have here are is this story on CBS sports dot com and the headline screams top remaining NFL free agents at each position, and it continues with a subheadline James Connor, Larry Fitzgerald headblind the big names left. Really we're just getting rolling on the

Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford in Gilbert. Each team of the time out a minute four to go in a tie game here overtime thirty four piece, gotta get a stop here thirty fourteen playclock at one snapped to Wilson quick for over the middle, picked off, It's intercepted at the forty yard line. Baiah Simmons has it running far side of the forty five platter bounds at the fifty yard line. Fifty seven seconds LA Cardinals have the ball man and time out. The Rooky made a play.

Isaiah Simmons is right there with the sweeth hands want to catch by Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, that's no doubt the play of his rookie year, although he made plays in both games against the Seahawks. Obviously that interception that was critical and overtime a big time win by the Cardinals in Week seven, thirty seven thirty four game where they trailed ten nothing twenty seven fourteen thirty four to twenty four, they come back to beat Seattle. And then the Week

eleven loss at the Seahawks, that was a game. Remember Wolf, he had a team high ten tackles and a sack. Isaiah Simmons the Cardinals first round pick a year ago. It is the Big Red Rage presented by Satan four and Gilbert. We are santan Ford and we are three weeks away from the NFL Draft. That Cardinals and Niners the only teams in the division, Wolf with first round picks at their disposal right now. Yeah, no doubt, Pollie, And just listening to you talk about the draft, it

does make me think of Isaiah Simmons. It makes me think of his rookie year. Of course last year and you know, Polly, going into that season, I just wanted to see from Isaiah Simmons. That he was a willing participant, a guy that would take his face and stick it right into the fire. I talked about this over and over and over again. Does he have the physicality we knew? He's got all the playmaking talent, all the playmaking skills you could possibly want from a guy that is kind

of a tweener linebacker himself. A strong safety hybrid if you will, that you can actually stick in the box. But man, what about his physicality? And I can tell you right now that was a pleasant surprise to me. A mild surprise, but a pleasant surprise. Isaiah Simmons has got no problem whatsoever sticking his face into the fan. And it's no surprise that Devandre Campbell is still unsigned in free agency. That is Isaiah simmons position this year,

right alongside Jordan Hicks. Not to say vance Joseph won't continue to use them in a variety of roles and that position flexibility. So okay, we have Isaiah Simmons. Real quick, wolf, give me a couple of thumbnails before we get to Frank Sanders on some of the other rookies the Cardinals came away with in last year's draft. For example, an order of selection round three, Josh Jones. What do you make of that selection? Yeah, that's great, Paully. Listen, Josh Jones.

Everybody was raving about the fact that Arizona Cardinals got Josh Jones in the third round, and that, once again was just from a talent perspective. Do I think this guy is going to be a starter at some point in time? I do. Do I think it's going to be this year? I don't, Polly, I don't. I do think they're going to line them up at right guard. They're going to give him the opportunity to go out there get some raps at tackle as well behind Alvin Beecham.

But I think this is a perfect situation for any offensive lineman that's hyper talented the way that Josh Jones is, but has got to ease his way into the NFL game. And I think that's exactly what's going to happen with Josh Jones. And I think it's going to benefit him greatly to be able to watch a guy like Calvin Beecham go about his business, go about his job. Maybe Josh Jones is going to get some reps inside at guard.

I know the Arizona Cardinals have talked about that from time to time, lining him up there, letting him compete for that open position, and we'll see where that goes. But yeah, Polly, I think for the most part, Josh Jones is still a question mark. Maybe just maybe one of the reasons they haven't been all that aggressive in free agency when it comes to tight end is because Josh Jones could be that sixth offensive lineman slash tight end in some obvious rundown situations. They did that a

few times last year. I wonder if they liked it. We know that he is upside, I mean the stat I remember US Pro Football Focus had him rated as the fourteenth best player in the entire draft and he went in Round three. So okay, we'll see whether that comes to fruition this year. I'm with you will probably not maybe a year three for Josh Jones, but I think they do. You find rolls from What about the two defensive linemen in round four, Lucky fo two and

Rochard Lawrence. Would you make of those guys? Both tell injuries at times. No, Honestly, Polly, I think Lucky Foe two and Richard Lawrence was really set back because of the injury situation. There's no doubt about that. Polly. He really his growth was stunted. But Lucky Foe two is a guy that I really think he flashed from time to time. You're talking about a rookie once again easing

his way into the National Football League. Paul would just say playing in the National Football League is an easy thing to do. It is not, especially when you're a defensive lineman and you're playing against the very best offensive lineman the football universe has to off for. I think Lucky Foe too made a lot of strides last year. But once again, here's a guy that I think is going to get better this year and he's going to contribute with more snaps in that rotation defensively. Richard Lawrence,

that's more of a question mark. Yeah, well, then you had Evan Weaver and obviously spend most of the year on the practice squad. Eno Benjamin same deal for the most part, not necessarily practice squad, but he didn't dress on game day. We'll talk a little bit later in this show about where the Cardinals are running back, but

what about free agency in general. You know, we had this discussion on Cardinals Underground, the podcast and the consensus was the Cardinals are done in free agency for right now. Between now in the draft, they're done in free agency, and then based on what comes to be in the draft, then maybe they target a remaining free agent or two

at the most. But when you have tight ends out there, guys like Tyler Effort, when you have corners out there Wolf, when you have some veteran running backs out there, is there anybody you think intensy enough, there might be a

time time move before the draft. I would say at the running back position right now, he's pretty much a draft like every position, I think they need to going into the draft, and that's really something that I think you want to do as a general manager, address your need so you don't go in there desperate on draft day to get a guy and suddenly you start over drafting somebody they want to avoid that like the plague.

Maybe a veteran running back Polly bringing him in. I think that's the one move out there via free agency. We might see what does Frank Sanders see and is crystal football? If you will? What about the Cardinals big moves at receiver, a position he played? What about the Cardinals big move at corner and maybe another one to come in the draft, a position he used to compete against. Frank Sanders former Cardinals. Great next on the big red rage at the parting hard line in front of Daryl Breen.

Great effort by Frank Sanders. Lumber looks. Lumber throws to the far side. Sanders banks the Cats. Frank Sanders, I'll tell you what, he's everything. He's made all the big plays. Plumber back to throw again. He's gonna wind up. He's gonna go deep far side of the field. Sanders thanks the Cats at scores Plumber and five stunt drop and he think cutch by Sanders, touchdown Cardinals. Lumber rolling right, gonna fire to the right code by Sanders, cuckdown Cardinals.

It's a four yard touckdown and the Cardinals in the end it sounds like a sixteen year old day pass. That's outstanding. I mean, right there with the highlights themselves was the voice of the Cardinals day pass. There was some Frank Sanders highlights that are Jim Alma Hunter pulled out of his vast archives as we say, welcome into the former Cardinals receiving great round two pick nineteen ninety five. Ron Wolf Lee forty seventh overall on Auburn. I think

of Frank Sanders. I think of a guy who made the money catches. I think of yards after catch. I think of a real dual sport baseball player in college, unlike you Wolf alledgulate in high school, in the whole all state thing, right, which has never been three ti hi, I think of Frank Sanders and now we couldn't wait till next next month's Carginals charity golf tournament for all the alums. We got to talk ball with Frank Sanders. Now, Frank,

how are we doing? Frank Gaye, Hey, brothers, that y'all doing. It's good, Frankie. Honestly, how are you doing through this whole pandemic thing? Man? Are you in the family? Okay, Man, I didn't know what that is. We have been really blessed and fortunate. Not that anybody else who has gone through haven't been less and pretty fortunate, but we've been pretty pretty blessed. Man in regards to not really getting it,

not getting sick. We haven't had any went on ventilators or nothing like that, so we've been pretty good for the most part. I've already taken my second shot. I got three daughters one eighteen seventeen and thirteen and eighteen seventeen is coming up for the their opportunity. So we're looking forward to it. And we've been pretty pretty pretty fortunate in a lot of ways because there's a lot of people that's been hurt by that. Great to hear break. Yeah,

that's outstanding, no doubt it. And your social distancing plan of a lot of golf that that doesn't hurt either, right, Frank, I'm guessing right. I just want to say one of the things I can give you know, the Governor big hug for is not putting golf on restrictions and that was definitely in the list real can do, you know, a social differing So I'm gonna give Big Does a big hug for that because I really appreciated that. So what do you view made of the Cardinals offseason so far?

And let's just start with a headliner, J J. Watt And not only what he's done obviously on the field and what he did last season, but when the decision makers cite his energy and his intensity and his leadership, how you tell us you've been on the inside of those locker rooms? How big a deal is that? You know what you know just first question. I felt like

Fantasy football all over again. I just felt like we sat around a round table and we tried to figure out, you know, who we could get, what names we could bring to the table. And if they had, you know, just they brought some experience and some energy into the locker room, what names could we get and bring in?

And I mean I think the Cardinals have done an exceptional job and going out and getting some just not some name guys, but some guys that still got some gas in the tank and guys that can you know, that can that can really change? Uh, They're not only their fate, but they can change the fate of the Cardinals. You know, Frankie wide receivers, No wide receivers. So want me to stay right there? Aj Green? How about Aj Green? Your thoughts on him becoming an Arizona Cardinal this offseason?

I mean, it's again, it blows my mind. I just I would have never saw that coming. I never saw johanre Hopkins being here. I never saw JJ Watt here. Um, I just I can't imagine how excited he has to be in transition to come to a team what he knows they're going to throw the rock. He's not. He's not solo by himself out there as the as the long you know, a long ranger out there as the number one guy um in regards to on on on

the Cincinnati's offense. But just to have to have a j Green here to watch what his skill set is. He can get in out of cut. He still has some burst to him. You know, he can make all the catches, he runs all the routes. He just haven't been on a good team where he can be truly, truly you know, used and explode as explosive as he can.

Um I just again, Frank, can you put into words for anybody listening right now what it means to have a a really good wide receiver there, I say, a great wide receiver on the opposite side of the field from you. What kind of impact does that typically have on game day? Yeah, and it gives you, It gives you to have somebody else on the other side, you know, that's got that same level of energy, talent, confidence, and

that dog in him. Look, he just makes it makes your job that much easier because you know, the defensive coordinator cannot w he cannot. He has to give you one on one with this guy that they're paying seven to twelve million dollars. And they told me that this week in practice. He was good. I'll tell you what I'm about to get him about. Give him some popcorn right now because I'm about to eat to save about

your blood. That's how you start thinking as a receiver, because you know that's a one on one situation and to have because you got somebody on the other side. I was blessed to have Rob Moore and David Boston on the side of me, and both of those guys were thousand plus shard receivers and they just made my job that much easier. Well. J. J. Watt was asked how much he felt like he had left in the tank,

and he spent the press conference. He was effusive. He had a lot to say in every single question and answer right. But then when he was asked that question, he paused and he looked the interviewee right in the eye and he said, you know what, A lot, A whole lot, And that's all he said about that one. A. J. Green was asked how much he feels he has left. Man, I feel like I have a lot left in the tanking. You know, I still feel feel young, Blakes feel young.

You know. Last year was a difficult year for me playing with these different quarterbacks coming off the entry. But you know, I wouldn't change that for anything in the world. I think that that made me a better person, you know, on the field, mentally stronger. But I know I feel like I got a lot more years left in me. So Frank, let me ask you this. You know, here he is, he's in his thirties. He obviously doesn't have the blazing speed he had and you know it's early

twenty easy. How does that transition though, with all the experience and aj Green now at this point in his career, is he a different receiver automatically? What do you expect? You know, I think that the experience in itself slows the game down, the game plan. He doesn't have to, you know, cram to try to figure out what he's doing. He understands his position. He can breathe a lot easier while he's playing the game. That allows him to relax more. You don't have to have blazing speed in the NFL.

You just have to have You have to You have to know how to getting out your cuts and how to set up how to set up the defense or the defender that allows you to have that window. What a quarterback can make the throw um, so to mean, what he what he has in the tank. Remember, guys, these are guys that have been on mostly losing teams, so they don't they haven't they haven't seen the depth of the playoffs. They haven't had to go out and really and really play seventy play games all the time.

Defensively J J. Watts. I do because they were out there a lot. But most of these guys haven't seen long term seasons. They've been seventeen weeks and done. They have not seen that. So they got some gas in the tank. And I believe that when they said that because they changing a new environment. Something about it makes you feel we're fresh and makes you feel like you've got comfortable to do improve And when you got something to prove, you're gonna lose probably about three to seven pounds.

You're gonna do a little bit more. You're gonna do the run, will flee while eggs in the morning with milk. It's just a little bit of that stuff. You'll do, extra crunch, extra set up because when you got something to prove, you got something to prove, and you definitely want to hate us to eat all of that words that they just don't just don't put the words weight loss and Ron Wolfley in the same sense. It's so funny, though, Frankie, to listen to you talk about this, because you know

what it was like. You went to the Baltimore Ravens. You went there after spending your vast career here with the Arizona Cardinals. And I did the same thing. I went to the Cleveland Browns, and I'll never forget. It was like hitting the reset button all over again. It was like walking in for the first time into that locker room. Okay, I'm gonna prove it to you. I'm gonna prove it to you. Get oh, and especially you, I'm gonna prove it to right. I mean, it can

be a refresh button for a player, can it. It really is. When I got to when I got to the Ravens, Chris mccaus was there, and you know, I thought to myself, he was supposed we wanted the best cornerback in the country. Well, we're about to find out. And every day and it's just the Ravens defense that they've been talking about. Right, Ed reads, I'm about to murder Christma Callen. I'm just I'm just get This is the work day for me every day because I know

how we practice here trying to win games. They didn't practice anywhere close to that level because they were winners and they knew it. So to me how it's trying to prove that I'm a winner too. I'm here to add to the table. So I definitely understand you're wrong, because you know what it is, man. You always there's something special about the game and it's called competition. And competition is supposed to make you better. And if it doesn't make you better, it's going to expose that you

you that dude or you're not that dude. And when you get new, when you get a chance to go to a new place and you remember who you were and they brought you in to prove are you that dude? Or where your hatpin? And I think these guys got so much to prove that they are that dude, and they and they want to bring they want to bring something to the table. Man, It's all about you. Frank Sanders, Presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert here on the Big

Red Rage. Right, you mentioned cornerback. How about thirty year old Patrick Peterson moving on thirty year old Malcolm Butler coming in. It'll be thirty one this season, Malcolm Butler says, Frankie's coming off his best season period in the NFL. What do you think about the Cardinals filming the Pat p Void with Malcolm Butler? You know, I think that you know that Pat Pee had a lot on his shoulders.

I mean he earned it. He earned it when the first couple of years that he was here, he was absolutely STU across the board, and then a couple of things happened. I don't know what, you know, his his relationship or his play on the field wasn't as a spectacle as it needed to be. I talked to Pat p probably, I played golf with him, probably about two weeks ago, of course, but there was a change that needed to happen. Whether it was with the organization on him,

but it was a change that need to happen. So and that's a good thing. Sometimes sometimes you get into places and you know you need those changes. We're placing them with Malcolm Butler. We said, this earlier experience sometimes makes a big difference. Malcolm Butler is a you know, world champ, he's a Super Bowl champ, and he's got some he's got some, he's got some learned, he's learned a lot how to play the game, how to get

ready for Sunday competition, and sometimes having that experience. Um, in that position, you're just removing a name, but your brain experienced. So in that in that, in that regards, everyone has to take ownership. How about this here, maybe some guys were slacking because we had Pat P or Patrick pat we calling pat P pat P on the

other side. Maybe they was giving them too much room, maybe they was taking maybe they was guts and gambling and they wasn't protective because that's Pat P. Well you get a Malcolm Butler everyone and now has to take ownership of the position and that comes you know, that's that's a good thing because now our defense has to actually, you know, some of these guys got to take ownership of what happened last year and uh and then actually and actually step up some table how to goal on

the golf course? You versus Pat By the way, did you lighten his vikings contract a little bit, Frank, I feel into the pocket a little bit, but he didn't stay long. He went out and worked out that morning and then we called him. He came in and his back was locked up. He said he had been training with a weight vest on and uh it showed on his first swing. I played with Patrick at his at his at his touches of a couple of times up at the rim, and uh love. The guy can play golf.

He's a flat out two handicap, without a doubt. But the other day he just he played like he was a twelve. And I needed all that money, and he and he and he supposedly taught himself off YouTube videos. I mean, it's criminal how athletic pat p is. We'll come back with Frank Sanders and speak in a corner if you think the Cardinals still need one. Should they go the veteran route free agency? Should they go the

rookie route in the first round. That's next on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert The Fake steps up, dances around, dodges, around rolls and down the Villas Cup by Sanders clun the forty to the thirty to the twenty five, plun the twenty, still dodging people, knocked down on the fifteen yard line. Sanders makes some one handed stab on a fifty eight yard pass play.

Plumber steps back, Plumbers gonna get knocked down. Oh hell, off to the right side of Morrell, and Morrell takes it in its scores Eightman winds up, rolls the ball deep in the middle of the field. It is intercepted back to the thirty. Five of the thirty goes Tommy Bennett on the twenty, on the fifteen, on the ten, on the five, he's knocked down on the Cowboy two, and you can turn out the lights in Dallas. This one's over. Bring on the Vikings. And one about those

wild Cards. No one gave them a chance to win this football game. The wild Cards with a wild Card win circa nineteen ninety eight playoffs at Dallas. I was there, Wolf, There were all the Cowboy fans left Texas Stadium. Who was about two hundred Card fans beyond the Cardinals bench celebrating that victory. Frank Sanders a huge part of that win. A huge season for Frank Sanders that year, Wolf. He led the NFC in receptions with eighty nine, he had

over eleven hundred yards, receiving thirteen yards a catch. He's our guest tonight on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. And what do you remember about that win? Real quick, Frank, give it. Give us a memory on that one, because you had beaten Dallas a year before ninety seven. That was the game where the goalpost came down and then left some double stadium when down Mill Avenue ended up in the Salt river bed.

But what about the playoff win at Dallas on the team personally Unius Williams and his speech before losing the huddle, you guys get a chance to go back to that. He kept screaming who Whitney because he kept said, we gotta take time, you know, the giant and he was using a biblical reference of David and Goliath, and he was like, oh Whitney, Who Whitney? And everybody's kept saying we are So I thought that was you know something

about it? Sometimes the special moments like that, wi you in the huddle and the team comes up together and guys say certain things that kind of catch you off guard, but it resonates in your soul. We went out and played our butts off, but I can honestly tell you what to a great moment was. And we came back and we landed on that on the tart Yeah, and I see the Cardinal fans that was there. I mean,

it just it gives chills to me right now. It makes you want to tear up because I think that sometimes you get you get the moment of how big the moment really is. You know, you just sometimes you know what it means while you're playing, use your job, you're playing, but the people that's rooting for you and the fans are really who makes what makes you know, what makes the game what it is. And you know, I was I'm a fan of the game, so I'm a little I'm like the kid at heart and it

keeps us at heart. And I think that when we land on that tarpet, to see the fans that was out there, and the flags and the Cardinals and the big red Raizors out there, it was pretty Ah, that was pretty amazing. Frankie, we gotta get into the draft here quickly. But as a formal player, I have to ask you this, what do you miss the most Mondays? Right? That's good, because that's good Monday. You know what, I

honestly that you miss Mondays. Monday is payday with definitely when you get out of the game, you realize what a real check looks like. What the NFL check. That's monopoly money all the way across the board. But you know what I missed. I missed running routes. I missed its running routes against air um with the quarterback coming, you know, throwing the ball. And there's something about the NFL ball that transitions from the college ball real quick.

You know, we don't have that stripe, but every every now and then that new ball looks like this orb and a spear coming after you. And it sometimes it's dark, its round, it has that red you know that that that pig skin, little reddish color on it, and everybody tries to wipe that stuff off. But I missed running routes because that right there is it's like it's like ballet. It's like dancing in the mirror yourself do something pretty special,

So I do. I missed the route running because that's my art, and I think that is the essence of what a receiver is supposed to be. As a route runner, but he has also catch. I always say, if you run a route so pretty you don't catch the ball, you might as we go run track. It's awesome. And of course on game day it's not against Ared's against

the corners. And as I said, going to break, I said, okay, if the Cardinals are still going to add a cornerback, you tell us, you know, are you thinking veteran corner right now or are you targeting that guy in the first round number sixteen overall? And if so, you know, how much can you count on a rookie corner? What would you say to that? Because even Pat P wasn't

Pat P his rookie year, right. Um, you know, I think that there is something a cornerback in the draft is a hit of miss situation because he has to come in and he you know, he can't get exposed really fast. Ron know, like most most of the time, this is the themb one thing in the NFL that they come to try to take is your confidence that's in practice, and they can still your confidence in practice. We know one hundred percent you're gonna stink it up

in the game. So you got to have a core cornerback that is confident whether he is getting beat or not. But he's confident enough to learn the game where he can come out and he can overcome some of his failures. But he has the athletic ability and the mentality to want to get better. You have to have that in

the draft. And sometimes that's why I say cornerbacks are hit him in situation, because you can get on a football field and just get dotted up the entire day, and once they're still your confidence, you know you're gonna need the psych character to get that back. So I would like to see us go continually bring experience in that allows us to have competition. I mean, of course the league has changed drastically because guys are not really

practicing as much. But I like competition, and I think sometimes an experience guy brings that because he's hungry too, and he wants that position. And if you get that, I think that will help us. I think that help us a little bit more. Frankie, do you think it's an easier to come in as a rookie warner and contribute more though than let's say a rookie wide receiver.

I think it depends on the expectation of the coach, and I have to use that, you know, sparingly, because you know, if you if you Bill Belichick, you know you on special teams. I don't care what kind of start here are you on special teams? So rookie cornerback typically if he doesn't, if he's not the guy that comes in and he's not the starter, he's gonna be on special teams. And that's not that's grunt work. And if you're first round draft picking, you gotta do grunt work.

You might not feel the same, you know what I'm talking about. You know, when you're a pre m macdonnad, you just don't feel like doing that. So um, but I really, I really, I think we do need to. I like bringing a rookie cornerback in as well, trust me, but I like one that is confident in himself to feel like I deserve to be here, or he's mad enough to feel like y'all should have drafted me early. Kwame Lafter was like that. We didn't draft Quammi Kuamo

was a late to men. Takuamo was an undrafted free agent and he came in behind Terry Hols and Andre Ware when you know, he had some guys to kind of fight through that he believed he deserved to be there, and when he got the spot in the chance to transition and he became the Umlas that everyone knows and that sometimes you know that's an undrafted guy, and that sometimes you gotta have a guy that has that mentalent, that believes he deserves to be there, and once you

get that, you can do anything you want to do with Yeah, rest in peace, Quamy, no doubt. We loved his confidence. You know, if Robert Alfred is healthy, he's that guy, right Wolf, He's ultra confident and will compete. We know that what about receivers in this draft? Is

an SEC guy? I mean, I look at some of the names here, Frank, we're on board with Frank Sanders here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert And I mean, you list the top guys, they're all from the SEC, seemingly Jamar Chase Lsu jal And Waddle Alabama, DeVante Smith Bama, Kadarius Tony from Florida, Marshall lsu, Elijah Moore ol Miss. Is there a guy you really like in this draft? The top five names you just name? If we can go one, two, three, four,

and five receivers. I'd be just happy to come on, guys, let's quit kidding ourselves. We know Cliff want to throw the ball, period. We don't want to run the ball. We want to throw the ball. And we need more receivers. And the more receivers we have, the more the more opportunities that we can get out. And we got playmakers. We need playmakers that can get out and make plays.

So I'm okay with the And how about this year we're talking about the SEC and receivers, which was known as a running conference, and now we got you know, five of the top ten receivers that are coming out the SEC that are capable, able and exciting. So to me, if we use our picks on some receivers, all I can say is Isabella's own notice, Kj's own notice, and anybody else that got drafted in the last two years, you don't notice because AJ's here, d hops here, Chris Christian.

We haven't even in the best of Christian and I know he's he's absolutely got a lot of gas in that tank. So to me, I'm okay, We're going to get two more receivers out of the draft because I know for a fact Cliff want to stow the ball, and you know, did your guys know that too, Frankie, how would you feel though, if, in fact, did the Arizona Cardinals all there there are a number sixteen, and they stay at number sixteen, and suddenly there's Naji Harris.

Would you be okay with the Arizona Cardinals drafting running back Naji Harris from Alabama in the first round at sixteen. I think you can go get two or three running backs from Alabama and be happy with him. Because of these guys, they no one. They gotta run, they gotta run the ball, and uh, I'm definitely okay with that. We need a running back. We let go Kingan Drake and I thought he was I thought he was a good fit for our system. I mean, I thought Chase

Saidmon is absolutely fabulous as well. I would like to see I would love to Celico get a tight end out of the out of the draft, but I want I want blocking tight ends and if we can pick them up in the late rounds, yeah, I want fat guys we can put on the edge that we know we can still add protect into the table. I don't want chute receivers, two tight ends, because to me, you got you got chot on the outside and that's where he you know, our quarterbacks he was want to look.

So to me, I want fat boys that can block and add to some answer answer the line. You know I'm telling the two O you are. You're right on it right now. Hey, listen, if you want to go with a fourth wide receiver, go with a fourth wide receiver. If you want to go three wide in a tight end, get a real tight end so you've got some balance, you can run it and you can throw it. Hey, Frank, we got thirty seconds left here. I got to ask you the money question. You broke the news playing golf

with Pat pe What about Larry Fitzgerald? Have you played golf with fits? What can you stink? And tell us right now about his future? Man since has been the most He is Kayser Soze somewhere in the country right now. This guys, he is not a football player looking like a football player somewhere in the country. And I have not had that wonderful opportunity to play with the brother. But I know he's got a lot on his mind.

He's got ala on his play and uh play. We always know his heart right is right here in Arizona and what he wants to be. So that's that's not that's not the big question. You know, you know he loves us and if it works out, it works out, and it to be best whole. One of the greatest receivers ever played the game. Frankie, you're the best, buddy. Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. God bless you, buddy. Talk to you down the road.

Have a blessing back right after this on the big red range, Chase Edmonds in the backfood with Murray third down in one of the twenty nine four receivers set shot gun snap, it's a run play right side, Big whole Edmunds twenty five twenty ten five touchdown the inside zone being run and Chase Edmunds found the hole. It's to the house baby, twenty nine yard touchdown run on third down in one for Chase Edmonds. All four of Chase Edmonds touchdowns at Medlife twenty parts are longer. Yeah,

that's Jase Edmonds this year against the Jets. We know what he did the year before with three touchdown runs of twenty plus yards at the Giants. You put Chase Edmonds in the Big Apple and he's going to give you a big, big game. There's no doubt about her. Right now here on the Big Red Race presented by Satan Ford and Gilbert Ron Wolfley, you have Chase Edmonds as you're featured back. Chase Edmonds is the lone experienced

running back on this Cardinals roster right now. Listen, you know the way I feel about Chase Edmonds, Polly, this guy is a football player through and through, a football player of the highest order. First, I just wonder if he's big enough to go out there and be your every down back, right, be your back that is going to carry the load and run down situations first and ten, second and one to six. I don't know, Polly. I

think they need a changeup guy, a bigger guy. This is something you know, I've been talking about all off season, all the moves right now to become more physical, more physical as a team, and in particular more physical on the line of scrimmage. Well, at some point in time, you're gonna need somebody to line up, somebody behind that offensive line and run the ball in a more physical fashion north and south in between the tackles. Chase Edmonds.

Of course you're gonna play Chase Edmonds. This guy is a great player. You're gonna play Chase Edmonds. But hopefully as an addition to some other running back that you're gonna bring in, you're gonna need that tandem. Most NFL teams have that tandem. I think the Arizona Cardinals need a bruiser ball. And look, we know the seller cap has been reduced to one hundred eighty two point five

million this year. So as of right now, and you can read about it ac cardinals dot com or Kyle Dagar broke it down, the cap hit for the Cardinals at the running back position is the lowest in the NFL. It's around three million dollars right now. For the entire running back room. Chase Edmonds the only one who's making more than a million dollars, and he's barely making over a million dollars. And you have Eno, Benjamin, Jonathan Ward,

Calfani Muhammad. Is this something you think is Steve Kime's approach, that maybe a rookie is added in the draft and then Cardinals hit camp with a really young and inexpensive running back room. Or do you think some of these names still out there free agency? James Connor, Todd Gurley, Duke Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Levy on Bell, Jeric McKinnon. Do you think there's a veteran that's coming via kime time sign?

You know? Honestly, Polly, I do not know, But I will tell you right now that of everybody you just mentioned right there, the one guy that I think might fit the bill for being a bruising running back James Connor. Now here's a guy six one, two hundred thirty three pounds, PAULI. That's a pretty big back right there. That's a big back, and that's a guy that also runs the ball in

a physical way. He's going to choose to run you over as opposed to trying to run around you because he knows he just doesn't have the jets to typically get around you. So to me, there's a guy that raises my eyebrows, and maybe a guy you could bring in that you wouldn't have to pay an awful lot of money for, and maybe a guy that would fit under the cap. And yet he's gonna give you everything he's got, probably on a one year contract. We'll see but and by the way, how about his former running

backs coach with the Steelers. James Saxon is the Cardinals running backs coach, and then Sean Coogler was Steelers connections. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if that makes for a natural path, yeah, getting signed by the Cardinals late. I will say this quickly as well. I do have a dream and that dream is somehow, some way at the forty ninth pick, Javante Williams is there. Oh boy, five ten, two, twenty five. How does that

feel right there? Paul, Look, you don't have to ask me twice about young rookie legs at the running back position. There's just something about young, hungry, ferocious running backs who don't hesitate to take it between the tackles. And I'm all on board for that. Sous to tackle them, Paul. Yeah, if it's if they stay young and running back, I'm good with that. Back to wrap up this edition of the Big Red Rage, after this plush shirt and take it down, and it is Jan J Walk It picked

up in the air. Running the other way with it is j J W. And he is going to go eighty plush yards for a touchdown fall the street stuffed the round and it's a trophy one picked up running in it to the fluty to the thirty, to the TWA. He's gone touchdown. What shn he do? Port of time? Up? Here comes walk? How he brings that portal to the nside? J J. And what with the sack? Look out come behind? Here comes one and second time he has got to

the quarterback stafford back to past books. He's out upside, intercepted by J. J. Watt and he's gonna take it in for a touchdown. JJ want in the news this week, just the similarities and parallels to a guy he idolized when he was a kid in Wisconsin, Reggie White with Philadelphia and the anniversary of Reggie White leaving the Eagles in a shocking free agent signing and going to the Green Bay Packers in nineteen ninety two, and Wolf you remember that. I mean, look, you tell me if this accurate.

Guys from your era talk with absolute reverence about two defensive legends who played the game during those years, Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White. Dang Dane. Yes, Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Paul, and I got a check because of Reggie White. Okay, just the settlement with the NFL and the whole free agency, and Reggie White was incredible. Think about this, He actually went a four year contract for seventeen million dollars at the time, Polly's that was big,

big muddy back then. And I'm talking about Reggie White, of course, the Minister of Defense. I've got so many Reggie White stories. I've told you them over and over and over again. He's a guy I have the utmost respect for, of course, a guy that was a great, great football player and a better dude. Well, if you go to a Z Cardinals dot com, you can see the similarities in stats and accomplishments between JJ White and JJ Watt and Reggie White, and it's just it's amazing. Dude.

I didn't realize that Reggie White, at age thirty seven, had a sixteen sacks season. Yeah, that's absurd, Yes, Paul was. Yeah, it's ridiculous. And you know what else I love about J. J. Watt. And you heard Frank Sanders touch on it a little bit when we asked him about his recollection from the ninety eight playoff win at Dallas, which was a monumental win in Cardinals history, and he cited the pregame speech

by Neius Williams. Yes, and I immediately thought of jj Watt and all his intensity and energy and maybe, just maybe he can play a similar role for this Cardinals. To Paully once again, it's so important to listen. You don't want somebody who's gonna be rah rah rah rah rah. You don't want that guy unless he's gonna go out there and challenge everybody, including himself first, Unless he's gonna go out there and do before he's gonna start going hit him. I hit him all five five five five

five right instead of Ad Paul. You need somebody who's gonna do first. That's gonna be jj Watt. Jj Watt's gonna come into this locker room, come into this paradigm and prove that he can still ball, prove that he can still play, and then suddenly he's gonna start talking and people are gonna start listening. Just like Rodney Hudson. He's gonna come in, he's gonna prove he can play, and then people are gonna start talking and listening to him talk. What Frank Sanders said, he was improving Oude

going to the Ravens. He was looking at murder Ed Reid and Chris McAllister. Right you Ope, it's the same deal for all the Cargos players. Yep. Special thanks Jim am Andro, Cody Fincher and Frank Sanders, Ron Wilful, PAULC. This has been the Big Red Rage Number one til You've been listening to the Big Red Rage presented by

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