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Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, um always fully you know it could be maybe there's a tight end. Perhaps you might sign on the line that has dotted. Maybe a veteran running back. But no, that's not what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about, ladies and gentlemen, is that nobody, and I mean nobody puts more thought into and gets more enjoyment out of April fools than our own ron wolf lay. Oh my goodness, So Thirddag, just keep your out on a swivel. Who knows what

wolf has in store on this April Fool's Day. It's not officially over yet, and we're hoping the wolf doesn't doesn't take advantage over the next hour because we might be a little susceptible here, still socially distanced on big red rage. All right, Polly, listen, anyone who listens to big Red rage or has listened to Big Red rage over the years, of course, you know, and they know, Polly, there was no way in the world I engage in the April fools. Yeah, fools, Paul. Did you know in England?

Though it's very interesting? Did you know over in England? Paul? Have you ever been to England? As a matter of fact, yes, traveling, I spent an inordinate amount of time looking at the desk of Charles Dickens. Put it out way with some guy who took about four hundred some photos of Charles dickens desk. You know what's interesting about it is the fact that over in England they actually play the prank on you and then they point at you in say

April Fool, not April Fools. They make it personal over in England, a person instead of instead of plural or maybe possessive like we own it. No, it's strictly on you. You you are the April fool. Paul. Interesting, So I'd ask you right now for a Laria Showed update, but that would be April Fool and there'd be absolutely no wolf. I was thinking about this though, and we got a big show. I mean, we're the original Thursday night football

here on the Big Red Rage. Oh yeah, and we have Frosty Rucker who is going to be our guest. If you want some football IQ and just wisdom in life in general, you go to Frosty Rucker, the former Cardinals defensive lineman. Do you not about it? So there's that out there. But I was thinking about this when it comes to Larry Fitzgerald. Maybe he's made his decision yet hasn't made the announcement and has no plans to make an announcement. We all know Larry. If he's done,

we'll fade into fade into black. If you will, you know, like the end of Sopranos or what happened, and you won't hear from him again. You know, we're all thinking, maybe it'll be a tweet something, you know, maybe it'll be a player's tribune article. I don't know what if he just decides that he's done and doesn't necessarily share it with anyone other than the decision makers in the Cardinals front office. Wo that is really really interesting. I

did not even consider that. I've always thought that Larry was waiting, that he was waiting for something. I don't know what that something might be, but I don't see Larry being that conflicted guy. We've talked about this before, back and forth, Should I go, should I stay? No, that's not Larry. He's waiting for something, and that's something will make up his mind for him. That's what I believe. Well, they created a little more cap room Wolf, which we'll

get into next. Could it be just the business of football. Maybe it's a final offer, a final salary figure that he's been waiting on, what's plausible, feasible, doable, and after the Cardinals made some moves to get further under the cap. We'll get into that next maybe that because honestly, well if that's just a theory, I truly think that he's gonna play next year. I really do. We'll get into that next in the Big Red Rage presented by Santan four in Gilbert, the poll is hit the Patriot one

the quarterback. Wilson is in the shotgun formation. Lynch will flank into a left two Wine to the nearside, one to the fog. In the shutt gun, there's the snappets felt high prick Frowsters, but's intercepted by Fulcol Butler. Welcome Butler is intercepted Russell Wilson at the goal line. Twenty second trift. Butler does an unbelievable job getting inside and I'm surprised that Russell Wilson through it here. Butler read the play perfectly, one behind the pick and ran right

to where the slam was going to be. Throne. Butler did it all right. That was Super Bowl forty nine at State Farm Stadium, and he sealed that Super Bowl win from the New England Patriots, stealing it away from Russell Wilson, Marshawn Lynch who never got the football, and the Seattle Seahawks not only was at the end of

the Seahawks chances to repeat his Super Bowl champion. A lot of people think that was the end of the Seahawks dynasty at that time, and even Malcolm Butler himself this week called it one of the best plays in Super Bowl history. It is the big red range Power presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are Santan Ford, Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley and the Cardinals new CB one top cornerback, Malcolm Butler. Your reaction there, wolf Well, First of all, let me just say I think it's the

greatest defensive play in Super Bowl history. I really do. When you go back and you break it down as well, and just watch the way that Malcolm Butler read the play and then broke on the ball and picked off Russell Wilson. I have to tell you, Bali, I think it's one of the most notorious plays, infamous plays, if you will, in Super Bowl history, and a lot of it speaks to the player that the Arizona Cardinals got.

It's not just Malcolm Butler, a tough guy, a tough corner, but it's Malcolm Butler the guy that understands the game. His knowledge of the game, Polly, and his experience allows him to make plays that maybe his physical abilities no longer can abide. You know, he said he just had his quote best year at the age of thirty. Interesting when he made that play. He was a rookie out of West Alabama, an undrafted rookie out of a smaller school.

So it's been quite a run for a two time pro bowler and a guy coming off what he says was his best year ever, a guy who could have made ten million plus if he had stayed with the Titans. They needed to make a salary cap decision. He became available. He's now an Arizona car. Knowing he was asked about twenty twenty one, I almost definitely think we can make

him push. Guys get older than things like that. But if you're doing the right thing with your body, you staying focused, you committed to the game, you committed to one goal, and that's just winning, you know what I mean. If everyone had the same mindset, that's what we're gonna do, and our ball harder this year. You know, I was what had my best year at the age of thirty age and number at a number here there you go.

Maler by the way, he said he had dinner the night before with defensive coordinator Advanced Joseph some of the assistants, and he said, in a quote, Wolf, we talked about how if we want to win, this team has got to be led by the players and not always the coaches. Ding ding ding ding ding. We've got a winner, Paully. We've got a theme this offseason, don't we. Yes? Oh so, Paul, can you see it? Paul, you're the sideline guy. I understand that I'm the analyst. Of course, it's so easy

for me to see. But Paul, even you the sideline guy, can you actually see this? Pay can you? Paul? Can you see exactly what Steve Kim in the Arizona Cardinals have done this offseason? We saw it for ourselves in Week sixteen with the playoffs on the line. Where was the energy and the intensity and the focus. And so you just saw wild variation some performance last year. And Steve Kim Wolf use the term self policing of the lit room. Yes, from Afar, looks like he brought in

a lot of guys with that sort of DNA. Oh listen, Polly, you know what I've been talking about and you and I have been talking about this for a long time now, but since the season has ended, this team needed to get more physical, and it needed to create a culture. Maybe you want to call it more leadership, whatever it may be, those two things to me, I think you had to develop a culture in the offseason. And anytime you talk culture, you're talking leadership, and you need models.

You need men to walk around and model that culture. But the physicality of this team, everybody they have signed, Polly, everybody Steve Kim has brought in right now, it blows my mind how physical they are. J. J. Watts, Rodney Hudson, A J. Green is a big wide receiver and a physical Malcolm Butler is a cornerback. In his physical Polly. You can go down the list. Every one of these guys alpha males. Even Matt Prador, a kicker, is over two hundred pounds as a kicker. It is an alphabet,

a guy that's been around a long time. Everybody they brought in fits the mold of being physical, Polly. And then also these are leaders. All right, let me ask you real quick about a guy they sign who might end up being the most important acquisition in the offseason. And we're talking about the backup quarterback, the new guy in town. Tuesday night, they agreed to terms with Colt McCoy. Your reaction, the gritty called McCoy right here, Polly, I

I it is. It's part of the transformation this offseason. I wonder what it poured tens in terms of the offense, Polly, I do. I'm sorry. Is the offense going to be more under center? Are they gonna take Kyler Murray and stick him under center and run some more traditional plays like the tackle zone to either side and the play action plays that come off that tackle zone. You see the Green Bay Packers doing it all the time. You saw you saw the Rams do it all last year.

It's their entire offense. The Seattle Seahawks even incorporated. I wonder if the Cardinals are going to do that, and if they are going to incorporate more traditional elements, more traditional schemes into their offense. I think that's a perfect fit for McCoy. He played in four games last year. I had a couple of starts, and I think that when the Cardinals did all that study going into their game against the Giants. Remember, Daniel Jones was fifty fifty

and so they studied both quarterbacks. I'm guessing they liked what they saw in film when they were getting a glance and game planning for the potential of Coote McCoy getting the start. So there you go, he figures to be the backup. What does that mean about Straveler? Right, Chris Streveler. We'll talk about that, and we're gonna hear from Frosty Rucker coming up, and next we'll talk about the safeties and what that defensive backfield looks like. On the big red rage black out of the gun, We're

rolling to and right the moving blocket flack. It's hamnered from behind. Sean Williams nuts and free. The ball is loose ball team trying to pounce on it. Sitcinnati's cut it a safety blint from Shawn Williams and Blacko got balled. Shaun Williams was shot out of a cannon. Roethlisberger drows over the mental intercepted by Shawn Williams. Night running to the fifty, down the fire sideline to the forty on his feet. The party cut twenty but ten by five touchdown.

Sean Williams intercepting Ben Roethlisberger and sprinting fifty nine yards to put the Bengals on the scoreboard. Birch and the Bengals radio all fired up right there. Previously we heard Westwood one little montage there Shawn Williams, the Cardinals brand new safety. Another guy thirty years of age, brings the experience. He has the knowledge of advanced Joseph's system. He goes way back to his Bengals days with a Cardinals defensive

coordinator that was key in him signing. The line that has dotted it is the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Frosty Ruckers still on deck in this edition. The former Cardinals defensive lineman but Wolf give me, give me your thoughts right now on where the Cardinals stand in the secondary. We talked about Malcolm Butler and

now Sean Williams as some depth at safety. Yeah, Polly, you know, obviously, with the corner situation being what it is right now, I'm loving what I'm seeing with Malcolm Butler on one side and then Robert Alfred. You know how I feel about Robert Alfred. Hopefully he's going to

stay healthy somehow, some way. That got a great deal on Robert Alfred, brought him back on a one year deal, and now all of a sudden, if he could stay healthy, you've got two really good corners on the outside corners that I like, and then obviously Byron Murphy lining up in the slot Polly, so I like the corner position.

But man, the safety depth right now is drastically improved on this team because Jalen Thompson, of course in Buddha Baker should be your starters out there, and I really really hope that Jayleen Thompson, somehow, some way PAULI is gonna stay healthy because if he stays healthy, he's going to continue to grow. But when you look at the depth that Steve Kim and the Arizona Cardinals have put behind these two starting safeties, it speaks to the disaster

that was last year. Remember all the safeties that were dropping Paul last year and could not play. I mean that Carolina game, which was the Cardinals worst defensive performance by far in my opinion, just the eyeball test. I don't care what the numbers say. Remember you were missing Buddha Baker and Jayalen Thompson in that game, and that hurt I mean, those guys are so dynamic, they account for being such the pulse of the defense in so

many ways. But they're not the biggest guys, and if they're prone to injury, you need that depth at safety. And in Sean Williams, you're talking about a guy who two years ago one hundred fourteen tackles in a pick. In twenty eighteen, he had one hundred ten tackles and five interceptions. Last year relegated to a backup role. Oh what does he have left? You know, he's playing at the almighty age of thirty. So we'll see if the Cardinals fight out. But well, if you tell me Vance

Joseph loves to use multiple safeties a lot of his schemes. Right, yeah, no, there's no doubt about it, PAULI. He really is. And then you've got tweeners like Zeke right, Zeke Turner. You've got tweeners that are out there right now, Sean Williams, Chris Banjo, Charles Washington. Think of the depth right now. Listen. Charles Washington flat out a ball on special teams. He and when given the opportunity, he's played very very well. Chris Banjo is another guy that is just going to

go out there and ball. I look at the safety depth and there's no doubt you're right on it. Pauli Vans. Joseph likes to use a lot of the safeties. But you know what, you also need those guys to be your your special teams players and some of your best special teams players. And that's exactly what they've done. Do you think the Cardinals need to sign another veteran corner between now and the trap? And I bring that up because Quentin Dunbar reportedly is going to visit the Arizona

Cardinals in the near future. Played last year with Seattle, was plagued by a knee injury from day one. Really, he had a knee injury in camp in August. Never got past it. He only played in six games. And so you know his rating, the passer rating he gave up when targeted one eleven. Not good. Year before when he was playing for Washington and had a career year. The passer rating he gave up when targeted sixty one point two and he's a six two corner. And I'll

tell you from field level, the dude is imposing. Quentin Dunbar. Yeah, you've seen a lot of Quentin Dunbar right there, Paully, I would say, you can never have enough corners. You can never have enough veteran corners that can get you out of a game. And I think Quentin Dunbar, I think the Cardinals have answered your question if in fact they are gonna host him, if that report is accurate,

they're gonna bring him in. They think they need to sign a veteran corner, But I don't think it's gonna have any influence on who they're gonna take at sixteen, because if there is a corner, one of the top three corners that are there, I think they're gonna go with a corner. That's just my gut feeling, yeah, And I think if that is still their desire, well, that they don't want it to be too much of a need going round one, right, They don't want it to

be a tell correct yep? Or absolutely you're risking teams trading in front of you. So if you signed yet another corner, not only for depth, but it maybe it throws people off the scent of what direction you might go at number sixteen. Overall, right, we don't have to do what do you think we have to take a corner. We don't have to take a corner. Just watch us, all right. Frosty Rucker coming up in this edition of the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert

we Are. Satan Ford drops back, throws over the middle, fatted down. Frosty Rucker got a piece of the football with the right paw oh man class and try to hand it off and he got tackled by Frosty Rutner as he dropped back and look at the veteran attack to agap. How about that for some get off handed off the height off the right side and he has spun down in the backfield. Frosty Rucker was there for Arizona, handed off to cumming him off the right side and

he is ripped down at the eighteen by Rutger. Wow, Frosty Rucker. Frosty such a wildly veteran. Kaepernick takes the shotgun snap short set and steps up man sec by Frosty Rutcker. Man, Rucker, such an underrated player. And they wouldn't be where they are defensively without that guy. And that's a double ding. Dave passed Ron Wolfley on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network talking about a guy who I

still remember, Wolf Heep and I verify this. It was a Cardinals Chronicles episode of video biography of sorts, and he wrote a little essay, Frosty Rutcker, and he said when he was done, he wanted to know that he was trusted and respected by his team mates and he knew that he left it all out on that field during NFL career that lasted five years with the Cardinals, well more than a decade in the league. Do you think Frosty Rutger checked those boxes right? There's no doubt

about it, Paulie. Frosty Rucker. Wherever he goes, he gets the well met handshake from people he played against. And it is all about you, presented by Santanford and Gilbert our special guests, former Cardinals defensive lineman Frosty Rucker, joining us from the East Coast, staying up a little later. Frosty, how are you doing. I'm good man, and thanks for the kind words man. That means a lot. Frosty one of my favorites, buddy, just the consummate pro man. Thank

you so much for coming on the air tonight. We appreciate it. Buddy. No, absolutely, I missed you guys. What's going on? You guys and away were yet you know we're still socially distanced. Okay, so we're remote locations. We loved having you in person. Oh man. That seems like a lifetime ago, doesn't it. And we're up there on stage where you know, there's Frosty Rutger and we're chopping it up and visiting frost I've got to ask you this though, one career interception, I'm trying to remember you

didn't get that as a cardinal. Tell us about that one interception. Well, you know, I remember it like it was yesterday. So I was playing for Cincinnati and we were playing versus Pittsburgh Steelers, and Big Ben tried to throw the ball. He tried to throw a dart at someone over the middle and then actually hit off the guy's helmet and it found its way into my big mits and I rumbled and stumbled twenty six yards and I was caught by the running back. So it wasn't

a big Ben. It wasn't a big Ben. Was caught by the running back. That's important, Frosty, it was very important. And he had a nice angle on me. So you know, everything played a factor into why I didn't score, But I made a big play for my team, and I was pumped up. Were you a former tight end or anything in your younger days, you know, did you play any of those skill positions? I was a running back. Actually, yeah,

I was pretty good too. That doesn't surprise me, Wolf, because if you're in the NFL, you have size and you can move, so that doesn't surprise. By the way, Frosty, your USC team all was just Gonzaga away from making the final four, you know, but heck of a season. Nonetheless, Oh my god, those guys played their tails off Gonzaga. Just I mean, they looks like they can compete in the league right now, the way they move and cut

to the ball and defend and make points. I wouldn't be surprised if they go and defeat it through this whole season. And Frosty, when you look at defensive football in the National Football League, I know you've been out a couple of seasons right now, but when you look at defensive football in the NFL, what is the first thing you think of? What an attribute do you absolutely have to have in order to be a good defense in today's NFL, you gotta be able to run, and

you got to be able to defend the pass. I think the way the league has continue to shift, it's a more offensive league. People are going, you know, over the top, and your defenders on the back and have to be not only smart, but they got to be able to cover guys. So I think that that's the element that you just have to have. You have to have defenders. You know, you played a couple of years with Chandler Jones, and the Cardinals had to go without

Chandler Jones for most of last season. Your thoughts on his return from the torn bicep and what sort of loss ying that was for the Cardinals defense and what will it mean to get fifty five back this year? I mean fifty five superman. That's one of the things that I've been really happy to see how he continued to blossom year in year out. And it was very unfortunate him getting an injury last year because I know what he means to that whole organization. The type of

player is, He's dependable. Up until last year, you know, he played the majority of the games. I don't think he even missed a game, just a special guy, game changer. He's a you know, definitely a ninety nine on Madden. So getting him back in the fold, getting him comfortable knowing that it's his position. He's not fighting for anything, but to you know, get back on the field challenge is going to do great things. And I'm really looking

forward to watching this defense just explode. Yeah, having said that, Frosty right there, the Cardinals go out and get j J. Watt. Tell me what you think of JJ Watt and how he's going to fit on this defense, and then tell me how you see JJ Watt and Chandler Jones meshing. Well, I think it's just it's going to be a bottle. How do you block those guys one on one, especially if they line up on the same side. I know, you know Bryson Buckner, the way coach buck as you

burging out there like to call him Coach buck. I know the way he coaches, and you know the way he can drop a blitz or drop the front. And you have those two guys on one side. You know that frees up Marcus Golden on the other side. But again we're talking about j J. JJ brings such a dynamic of just burnt power, strand quickness, everything you want out of alignment, and you can line them up anywhere, and it's going to be the ultimate mismatch because I

don't think JJ's played next to a guy with Chandlers calvary. Well. Look, notice has been served in the NFC West. In fact, George Kittle, the Niners all pro tight end, was on the Kyle Brand podcast Ten Questions with Kyle Brand and the question was about what the Niners are gonna face now and that Cardinals twosome And here's George Kittle, JJ Watt new to the NFC West. How are you going to block that guy this year? You might have to block that guy a couple block. There's techniques. Welcome to

the NFC. Is this is this now real football? Coming over from the FC? Like? Is that the way it works? I mean, this is gonna get plastered. But like, the NFC West is the toughest division in my opinion, the Cardinals, they looked pretty good on offense and can't lie there And then he got JJ. I mean Chandler Jones. I still think is one of the underrated players in the NFL. That dude's an absolute monster. You guys try to block himaget extender arms. That's really annoying. So we're all looking

forward to that. But well, we've also seen in the all season is the acquisition, honestly, Frosty, of a lot of guys who had your sort of leadership and your ability to command respect in the locker room. That's the sort of player they have targeted this off season. I'm curious in your opinion how big a deal is that that that element on a team. Well, you know, when you get veteran leadership that can come into a roster and it's not really shaking things up. It's just a presence.

You know, it's the way people go about their work and you know it means something. And that's no knock at anyone that was there in the position before. But certain guys command that. They got that aura around them. And you guys have picked up a lot of players that command that respect. They're proving guys around the league that have played deep into playoffs, they've won Pro Bowls,

Super Bowls. You guys got guys that are at the position the very best that do it and that comes with a lot of like we said, we keep saying, leadership that comes with a lot of responsibility and they're dependable guys. And this Cardinals team has just been pieced out beautifully. You know, I believe the Arizona Cardinals needed to do two things this offseason. Number One, they needed to get more physical, and I would say, in particular Frosty,

they needed to get more physical on the line of scrimmage. Now, Steve Kim says they needed to just get more physical, doesn't matter where they are, even Malcolm Butler it's a very physical corner for the most part. He just wanted to improve the physicality of a team from top to bottom. But for me specifically, I wanted to see them get more physical on the line of scrimmage and develop a culture. So let me ask you, what what does culture mean to you? When do you think it's important that a

team has a cult? A culture? Absolutely, I think the culture is just setting the president of how this is gonna go and what this work is gonna look like, and how we're gonna dominate and everyone being accountable. And when you get a guy like Rodney Hudson to come in and you know, I don't think Rodney's missed a snap playing Maybe you did last year maybe maybe, but I don't think he's ever missed a sap snapp in the NFL. And then you know, probably regarded as the

best center out there. And you know, to have that guy on that offensive line met with DJ and you got Malcolm Butler, a guy that's you know, won a Super Bowl, one made the play in the Super Bowl. Guy that's proven, like you said, that's tough as nails and really will compete for the ball. And the defensive

side of the ball. You're bringing aj Green that you know, might be the comeback player of the year if you can get enough touches, you know, because there's only one football, right you guys have a heck of the team here and and I'm very pumped and sitting here watching this the way the season went last year and how it dived off at the end. Yeah, but if they have that extra gear, you got that challenger, you got that JJ that can make a play, You got markets back

that can make a huge play for you. And then you have to go Larry. I know he's yeah where he is, but you know he's always, you know, a phone call away. I'm sure from right exactly. Don't know what's going to happen with with Larry. But I have to ask you, Frosty again, have you because you mentioned accountability and accountability I think is so huge in a part of culture that there is accountability, But that means you've got to have dudes in that locker room that

are willing to hold themselves to a standard. They're not going to hold anybody else too, but also are willing to walk up on somebody and say, dude, what are you doing. Have you ever walked up on somebody in your career as a guy that was trying to keep somebody else accountable? Yeah, I'm sure I have. And you know, a leader is not always liked, right you You got

to do the tough jobs. You know, you're you're the one that asked to make sure everything never gets comfortable around there, and people are always on that edge, always have that one more gear to you know, finish your

sprints and finish the drill and do this net. And it starts setting the president of how the work will be done, and that, like we keep saying, it's the accountability of that, you know, to work knowing all right, I'm gonna put myself on the way, all right, I'm gonna take some better notes that I did last year, because last year's notes weren't good enough obviously. You know, it's the energy that's going to be coming into that that team of people that want to win, you know,

and it always feels good to be wanted. And I know all these guys you guys got in free agency, they know they feel that they're wanted well. And there's a couple of guys and you might have caught a couple of names of Frosty Drop that he has firsthand knowledge of. We're getting get into that next. He's a former teammate of a couple of big names the Cardinals

acquired in the all season. We'll get into that. I want to ask Wolf Frosty what he misses the most and what he misses the least about life in the NFL. And then you mentioned coach Buck. There's a legendary story. If we have time, I got to get you to tell it to us again about a coach in his own game film. We'll get into all that next. It is The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert with our special guest, former Cardinals defensive lineman Frosty Rucker.

Back right after this on the Big Red Rage, Dalton takes the snap, takes a handoff, rolls right. Lots of time on I keep y. J. Green is hoping he's kind of running down them thirty nobody's going to catch J. J. Green has the pangals eighty two yards, the longest catch

of Adriel Jeremiah Green in spectacular NFL career. There's go a career catch for a J. Green, who has a distinction of sharing a locker room with our guest tonight in The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Frosty Rucker, former Bengal five years with the Cardinals joining us here and let's just get right back into it. Frosty, you tell us about AJ Green. Obviously at his peak he was one of the best in the NFL. How much do you think he has left? Is a question

all the Cardinals fans are asking themselves. Well, I think AJ Green has a lot left. I think his time was just up in Cincinnati, playing on turf, practicing on turf, and you know, subzero temperatures and December and things like that. I think it was his time to break loose of that. He's spent his whole career there. Like you said, he's been a Pro Bowl player, top of the game, a guy that could really go up and get the ball, great teammate, never hear anything bad about him. It's his time,

you know. And it looks like on the offensive side of the ball, the receiver group is just getting stronger. And this, like I said, if Aj gets enough footballs this year, he may just be comeback Player of the Year. And I'm thinking as well, Frosty, that here is a guy that is on a one year contract, it's kind of a proved contract, and he's leaving and playing with another franchise for the first time in his career. Talking about a decade here. That to me, I think that

is going to be good for Aj Green. You would you agree with that? Yeah, it's gonna be a great thing, you know, and that a lot of guys don't make it that long to get a tenure with the team like this. And you know, he was on some sort of type of path like Larry was, you know, and you know, to leave after a decade of ball one City. You know, he only endured one coaching change at the head coach position. This is this is an exciting time for AJ. I'm sure a one year it's a proved deal,

but you know sometimes that's all you need. You just need a fresh start and coming here again. The only issue is going to be how many how many times he can get the ball, because I'm sure you know, playing on grass, practicing on grass is only going to do it good with the you know, the type of injuries he had had. Well after the Cardinals, Frosty Rucker went to the Raiders, And that means you were teammates with Rodney Hutson the Cardinals news center. Now, how often

did you guys ever match up in practice? Because I can talk about how he's given up ten sacks in ten years, which is a mind blowing stat. But you tell us what sort of player is you're in the trenches. Yeah, he's a great player, very smart, um durable. Like you said, you know, he doesn't give up a lot of plays, and I think he's gonna be a great addition for K two. He got the very best in the league. Rodney practices every day. I don't want to jink him

with that because you know, I don't want to. I don't want to say that, sorry, Rod, But when I was there in my tenure with the Raiders. He practiced every day. I did get to go against him because myself I was also I was a starter, but I was working on scout team. You know how I get down when I play football, it's whatever it takes. So I was helping them, lending the hand on scout team.

So you know, obviously from playing verse him in games, live games to you know, watching him work as craft and you know, go and get them in pass restrials and whatnot. He's the real deal. And again he's the perfect fit to go on this offense that can you know, essentially cover Ktoon's. It's passing lanes, it's right in front of them. You know what's amazing about it as well, Frosty.

But every team that I was on, the relationship between the quarterback and the center is really something special, right It just it is you see the center and the quarterback talking an awful lot. I think that Rodney Hudson is going to have a mentorship role, if you will, with Kyler Murray as well, and help him in his career, help him develop as a leader. I'm really jacked up about it because I hear great things about Rodney Hudson in terms of not only knowing the game but also

being willing to help others. Yeah, I mean he's seen it all. He's proven to be the best center in the game, and he can only drop knowledge. You know, he's not a very talkative guy. He's not, you know, an overly allowed person, but you know he commands a respect and that's what it is. He's, you know, a solf spoken giant on the football field. And I don't personally know K two, but you know who doesn't benefit from extra leadership around you? Who doesn't benefit from extra

you know, Pro Bowl experience around you? And I mean it should be a match made in heaven. So you host a podcast, the LA Football Network podcast via the Belief podcast network, and so you focus on the LA football scene and obviously, right now, least according to Vegas, the Rams of the team to be in the nfcust after picking up Matthew Stafford. So you tell us what sort of impact do you think Stafford makes on that

RAMS team. I think it's a huge impact, just the type of player he is, the way he can make any throw and stand there in the pocket and you know, get out of there when he needs too. He's experienced, and I think this is another opportunity for someone to get out of a situation where he never bad mouth for plays. He just showed up every single day and he just didn't win the games. And we can all sit here and contest that it really wasn't Matt Stafford's

reason why they weren't winning games. It was everything around him. So I think it's a fresh start for him. Again, another guy don't personally know just played versam, but he does make Sean mcvey's offense go. At this point, you know, I think they were losing a little well, obviously a lot of faith in the gentleman they did have there even though they took him with the first overall selection. It was just time to go and they made a decision.

And now I know the city of la is very excited about it, and hopefully, if you know, they get some money in the cap issue, they can still make some pieces to that place. But that's the tough one for them now, yea, yeah, no no doubt about it. Right there. They also added DeShawn Jackson. What do you think, what do you expect of DeShawn? Does he still have the wiry speed. Does he still have the ability to go out and make some big plays? Well, hopefully we're

gonna see. Yeah. Right, that's one thing I'll say. You know, that's a great thing about football, right, Frosty, You're gonna go out and proof you're absolutely right. We're gonna see you know. And I'm a big Deshaun Jackson fan. Obviously you watched the game. He's one of those dynamic players that just takes the roof off the defense. He you know, he's always a home run away. And him being able to come home to be back in La around his family and friends, you know, that brings a huge element

to it. And then having an opportunity with you know, to get in the relationship with Matt Stafford. They've both got fresh starts. So who knows. So, Frosty Rutger, what do you miss the most and missed the least about life in the NFL? The game of days? I missed that a lot. I missed competing at a high level.

I don't have just one answer. Sorry, I guess you know, because it's a real question for you know, a next pro athlete, being around the guys every day, you know, taking on that that leadership role and being dependable guy that they can come to the locker room and talk to about football stuff, life stuff anything, just accepting that role. I missed that, that big brother type of being a big brother type of figure. And I don't miss practice

or the meetings. I'm gonna guess, and that's my lead in Coach buck You mentioned him, Brentson Buckner, the Cardinals defensive line coach and a good friend of yours. I still remember this. It was a dog days I don't know what season it was. The guys needed to pick me up, and he put on some film in the meeting room for the D line And let's see if you remember the story because it was film, not if any of you, but if someone else in that room.

Do you know where I'm going with this? Oh yeah, Coach buck because let me let me start by saying, he as far as my favorite coach and I've had that has coached me in my position. I've learned so much from him about the game of football, not just D line stuff, but the back end of it. He's phenomenal. You know, he will be one of these next great de coordinators. And I'm sure this is going to happen soon enough. But yeah, I do remember those dog days

and we weren't doing too good. And you know, Coach Buck is how I always had a unique way of getting his point across. So to get his point across, he had to show his videotape with himself doing what he was telling us to do. And I think I think he was really getting on Rodney for to be honest, that he was probably getting on Ronnie to do some of the things that Ronnie just couldn't figure out. And you know, it's always good to be able to go back to your own tape and say, hey, I did it.

That's right. Everyone's like what I remember guys saying or Chavio, well, who is this on the film? And it ended up it was Coach Buck himself and he was showing his own highlight reel. So you know what, he didn't ask me what I missed the most? I noticed that right there. So let me just tell you, acting like an unmitigated savage in between the white lines, and nobody cared. Nobody cared.

That was the great thing about it. And what I missed the least, I would have to say, Cardio, well, we definitely miss Frosty Rutger, So thank you for the time to dight. Frosty was great to connect and thanks for the knowledge. Paul Lookley, It's always a good time to talk to you guys. I miss you guys. Burkang, I miss you guys. I think you guys that put a great team together and share these these cardinals on.

I think it would be great things. And Frosty, yep, Frosty Rocker will come back wrap up this edition of the Big Red Rage right after this. Oh hey there, right there, Oh hey, how are you doing it? Pretty pretty far south? I don't know if it's kind of snow today behind. Oh my gosh, we're in the States. Top Oh, I brought my to fog and just in case, my goodness, tucking the weather here. It's beautiful. I an't see Jimmy Jess chin line. Holywn, guy's got chin line's

gonna chat. Oh my goods, that is one of the nine. What a man he is. It's George Kittle and Joe Staley back in the day for the forty nine ers when he was miked up by NFL films. George Kittle never disappoints when he's miked up and at that point you now it works, Wolf, Right, That's how it works in the world of the locker rooms, the U right, the handsome Jimmy che hearing it from a couple of his rooms, all very long and for being handsome ball. Yes,

So the Niners guess what. Apparently they don't like the cut of Jimmy G's jib anymore, because they have moved up to number three in return for the number twelve pick this year a first, and the third next year a first in twenty twenty three. The Cardinals the only team with a first round pick in this year's draft. By the way, Well, the Niners did move up, but

it's why they moved up. I mean, Wolf, if Zach Wilson is going number two, did the Niners just give up all of that, all those assets to get Trey Lance or you know, Mac Jones or Justin Fields. Yeah, you know what. Probably I don't know what to say about this, I really don't, but it's definitely being talked about with not only the San Francisco forty nine ers, but league wide. I would say, in regard to what

quarterback would you possibly be moving up there? And they must feel really really good about somebody not named Trevor Lawrence. You know, I mean, you're not going to move up to number three and give up what they gave up and take a defensive tackle. They're gonna take a quarterback. It's not gonna be Trevor Lawrence. We all know that's gonna go number one overall. So they must really feel good about a couple of quarterbacks knowing somebody's going to

be there at number three. The question I have is what kind of impact does this have on Jimmy G. Because Paul I don't see him doing well when you're drafting his replacement and bringing him in and then saying, oh, yeah, we're gon We're gonna stick with you, Jimmy G. That's what we're gonna do. I don't see that going well for Jimmy G. I still think and believe the forty nine ers going to try to get rid of them

and dump them at some point. Totally agree. I just especially when you get rid of them, you get those cap savings and the dead cap hit is less than four million dollars. Yes, it makes financial sense to part ways with Jimmy G. I just do they think that the Jets are gonna stick with Sam Darnold and not trade out of that spot, so they might have a shot at Zach Wilson because you better be content with the other quarterbacks not named Trevor Lawrence or Zach Wilson

because you're picking number three not number two. Right, I'm just trying to understand that. But either way, it looks like there's gonna be another interesting quarterback right, dynamic QB

in the nscus under center for the Niners. But I will say this, I hope the Niners do proceed with this plan seriously, because I don't think it's gonna go over well with Jimmy g and because of that, I think his play will suffer and they'll go with a rookie quarterback at some point in time, which you would think is going to deplete their win column if you

know what I mean. Yep. Well, special thanks to Frosty Rucker, who, among other things, said about his former teammate AJ Green quote, if he gets enough targets, he might be the NFL comeback player of the year. So that resonated no doubt. Special thanks Jim Almah, Cody Fincher for Ron will play on Paul calBC. This has been The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan for number one. Tyler, You've been listening to The Big Red

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