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Not this again. In the interim, Wolf, We've decided here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, we are santan for to employ our own rover of sorts, because we know how you're into the selatious and the sensational stock ball. Your middle initial is TMZ. We know that wolf about you, and with that in mind, we've sent our rover into the backyards of other NFL teams. Gone over the block wall, as we like to say,

where is this sege going? Paul? And if you haven't noticed Wolf for a complete lack of games right now in the NFL, we haven't even started the league year. Heck, the combine has even been canceled. There's a lot of drama out there in the NFL. There is some dramas, some quarterback drama too, I might add ball. I mean, there's some great words that you see splash across headlines these days, denials and desertion, or the word divide. In Seattle, how about the Niners saying Jimmy g is their guy

and yet nobody really believes them. John Lynch has got to say, you know what, no, I really believe that he's going to be our quarterback. He follows it up and qualifies it by saying, no, I really believe that even uses the words no doubt, except there's a run doubt, Yes there is. How about the Texans saying, you know what, the power grid may have failed, but we're not going to commit the epic fail of trading Deshaun Watson. Right yet, there's Deshaun Watsons telling the new head coach, I'm not

playing for the Houston Texans. And then, of course there was a headline earlier today and we'll get into this at the end of the show. But how about this for a headline when it reads the athletic in Seattle? What is driving the rift between Russell Wilson and the Seahawks? Quote power and control. Now that's something to dig your teeth into. There's a debate going on in the national

football right now, Paully, the football universe. Basically, the debate is how much say should a franchise quarterback actually have? It's going on with Deshaun Watson, and it's going on, I believe with Russell Wilson right now, how much say should a franchise quarterback have? I listen, For the longest time, a general manager had to have complete autonomy for the

most part. Right he was the guy to me, I will continue to say, ten years ago and before that, the general manager was the most important hire an owner was going to make. Paully, because that general manager he was going to draft. He was going to assemble the roster. He was going to go out and sign free agents. He was going to hire coaches, a couple of coaches, probably head coaches. He'd get that opportunity. He was the most important guy you had in your organization. And right

now that is changing a little bit. That general manager has got to be able to tap into a little bit of counsel with that franchise quarterback. Well, what have we been saying for a good decade, No QB, no chance? That's right. Maybe the time has just come where quarterbacks have had that epiphany that guess what, I am more valuable than the GM. A GM is replaceable. A franchise quarterback,

for the most part is not. So it's like that anonymous coach that's quoted in that athletic story about Russell Wilson and the Seahawks Pete Carroll and John Schneider and the quote from the anonymous coaches, it's a great story. There's a lot there, money, greed, our control, end quote, no doubt about it. Paulie, and we all know franchise quarterback in the NFL is the hardest human being defined. It's almost like sweeps month has hit the NFL. If you will, you know that's the way it works in

local tiers such a television guy Paul. Maybe it's a ratings game. We'll get into that with Darren urban Ola but later. But first we're gonna go into the offensive line. Sean Coogler met the media today. That is next than the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. I like the improvement between year one and year two with Cliff. I look at the changes that Cliff has made with his coaching staff are going to be big improvements.

Our run game was a strength early in the season, and promoting Sean Cooler to our run game coordinator, I think we're going to continue to improve. I think Cliffs done a fantastic job this offseason, and t and I sat down multiple times talked about the things went right, the things went wrong, ways that we can fix it, and the possible solutions moving forward. And Tom, I'm very confident that the things that more negative issues this year

with our football team will get corrected. Self scouting, that's what it's all about in the offseason year From Steve ki Bidwell, the GM and owner respectively, both with Doug and Wolf this week last week on decision Makers Week Newsmakers Week, I guess is what you guys officially called. I always called the decision Makers Week on ninety eight

seven Arizona Sports, and those scop are always wrong. Paul. Well, you know, you guys never consulted me on the the Moniker, and so you know, I just went rogue on you guys. I always thought that, you know, well, we could have improved on that. But once again, no one listens to me. Say where are you, by the way, Polly in the morning. I mean, I'm mossing you badly. As you know. First off,

I'm sleeping in I'll tell you that. Oh you Robin, And for the most part, but as for what you heard right there, Wolf, if you're gonna talk, and you heard Michael Bidwell say it, did he not? And we're going to get into this a little bit with Darren Urban momentarily on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert the Run Game, and he mentioned twenty nineteen twenty twenty, Well, what is the second half of two thousand nineteen have in common with the first half

of two thousand and twenty? The Run Game was in gear and the offense was firing on all cylinders, right, Yeah, there's no doubt. In twenty nineteen, it was that second half of the season winner Kenyan Drake really took off. It got him a transition tag, is what it did. Bally that second half of twenty nineteen when they start to use a lot more two tight ends, even went to three tight ends at the end of the year.

If you'll remember back to twenty nineteen, Balie, this was an offense that was in a state of flux, and it was fluxing more towards the destructive nature of the game of football as opposed to the deceptive nature of the game of football. And Kenyan Drake, as I said, really got off in that second half of twenty nineteen and it got him that transition tag. This is something I think the Arizona Cardinals need to get back to a little bit more and I'm hoping that's what they do.

I'll just throw this one stat at you. I'm not gonna go heavy on the numbers, but but you tell me how significant this is, because this is from my note sheet going into the final game of the season at the Rams, the playoffs hanging in the balance. Week seventeen. And here's a stat going into the final game of the season. Over the first nine games of the year, the Arizona Cardinals averaged one hundred and sixty nine yards rushing per game. They were six and three at that point.

Over the next six games, they averaged just over one hundred eleven yards per rushing. As a team, they went two and four, and then in the finale they had eighteen carries as an offense for just forty eight yards rushing at the rams. They finished two and five over the last seven games and missed the playoffs. Yes, and to me, it's just stark, is it not. Yes, And so you realize, Okay, the capability is there. What happened? What exactly do the Cardinals have to do to adjust

to the adjustment, if you will. Whatever defenses were doing, it was effective to make the Cardinals one dimensional to a large degree and take away the balance in the offense. And Sean Kogler was asked about that in a roundabout way today when he met the media. I think we do have the tools in place to be an outstanding offense.

Coach Kingsbury, you know, he is very creative, and you know the offense works when it's rolling, and we just got to make sure that everybody's in position doing their jobs, so we are rolling there. You so give me your thoughts on Sean Coogler. And you know how much tweaking does it require? Is it philosophy, is it personnel? To what degree is it? Both? Give me your thoughts. Yeah, you know, Paul, I think it's a combination of a

lot of different things right here. Listen. First of all, the fact that Coogs got promoted a run game coordinator. I'm a big fan of that because, as the old saying goes, more say more, pay right, and more pay more say and I think that's exactly what he's gonna have now. Listen, was he the run game coordinator for the most part last year? Yes, he was. But we've

talked about this this offseason. It's really important that you get that title because you do get paid more, and when you get paid more, you get to say a lot more as well. I think there's some changes maybe on the horizon, and we'll see what happens here in twenty twenty one, but i'd love to see him Paully put more emphasis on just whipping the dude in. You raise the bars, so to speak, across the board, and you know what, start trashing dudes as opposed to tricking dudes.

Does that make sense? And you know, we talked about that with Rob Frederickson a couple of weeks ago, did we not, you know, more the power run game, the straight ahead run game, Kyler unders center a little more often, more north south, Paulie. And it's interesting because Sean Kugler, during the beginning of the press conference today, he was asked about, you know, the philosophy of defenses it taken away Kyler Murray because that seemed to be the emphasis

of defenses about midway through the season. That was the big adjustment on those RPOs. And he said, look, you know what, if they're going to do that, you got to play it perfectly, or Kyler is going to pull it and run it and that's where he's at his most dangerous. But he also said, our offense is built around Kyler's mobility and him making the proper reads, and so if the defense takes that away, theoretically that should oopen up other things. But that didn't happen often enough

obviously in the second half of the season. No, and Paul to your point in regard to Kyler Murray being the center, the epicenter of the cards rushing attack. I think they need to adopt a different strategy that acknowledges the only thing more powerful than running Kyler Murray is the promise of running Kyler Murray. I would like to see them go to a more physical put the onus on the offensive line destruction as opposed to deception. And

we'll get into the offensive line. What exactly is happening at the center position, What is happening at right tackle? What else did the Cardinals need on offense? We'll talk to Cardinals insider Darren Urban Next Fromacy Cardinals dot com. It is the Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford and Gilbert. We are Santanford, bottom ban bottom boom. Great protection for Kyler Murray. The pocket has been really, really sound.

This is where you gotta feed the butt guts now, baby, you gotta let those butt guts line up and eat. Get a little greasy. They like it, greasy shotguns. Snapping a hand off the drake up the middle. He's in for the touchdown, Kenyan Drake from a yard out. Cardinals had the lead, You had the butt guts, come off the ball, get movement at the point, Baby, I try to bot a being bot a boom, but I can't quite pull that off as well as a guy from Buffalo.

There's just something about that when you're from the Silicon Valley doesn't really work quite to the same point. That's right. Come on, you know they're at Berkeley trying to say that. Knock it off, Paul, I need some help here. That's why we're gonna bring in on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford Cardinals insider, Darren Urban and Darren Good Evening. We'll get into the old line momentarily. All the butt gut news

you can use momentarily. But first off, I saw about twenty four hours ago you tweeted out a picture of Larry Fitzgerald Courtside, Son's minority owner Larry Fitzgerald Courtside. How about attaching some sort of update to that tweet? Darren, Can you please bring us some news on Larry's future

beyond him just signing something for a fan courtside. Paul, we have had this discussion many a time, and clearly nobody knows what the heck is going on, and Larry is just gonna do it on his own schedule, and your guess is as good as mine. I wish I had an update. I wish I had an update for many reasons, not the least of which is I'd like to not have to worry about it twenty four hours a day. But we are where we are, derb. Can we agree though, that the longer this goes on, the

better the odds are that he comes back. So here's how I'm kind of looking at it, Wolf. I mean, I don't disagree with you that it's still a possibility. The question becomes why would it be? I find it hard to believe that it's the question maybe of just whether he wants to play or not, so maybe there's

some other stuff involved out a mall. I mean, we've all talked about the contract many times, and it would be hard to believe that the Cardinals would bring him back for the eleven million dollars he's been playing for the last few years. So you know, maybe they're saying, Okay, if you do come back, it would be this amount

of money. Does Larry really want to do that? I do think that ultimately He's going to have to make a decision before we get to free agency, because I just don't think in how tight this salary cap world is going to be that they can afford to have him say after the fact, Okay, now I'm going to

come back. I don't know if that would work. I'm sticking to my latest theory advanced initially on The Big Red Rage last week and then further on Cardinals Underground the podcast this week, and that is to the point where Larry not only is coming back, but since there's going to be the advent of super teams according to Chase Edmonds and all these one year deals, the competitive vantage Larry has a no other Layer has in the

NFL is his contact list. So Larry will come back and then he'll announce it with about a half dozen other signings that he has generated, and so boom, He's going to orchestrate this whole super team Lebron style for the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty one. Who's with me on that, Polly? That is a hot take right there. Honestly, what do you do do you? I mean, have you locked yourself in the closet to come up with these

hot takes? Is that what it is? I've been watching too much of, you know, some of the TV too much of First Take and Stephen A. Smith and some of the other no and Skip Bayliss. It's all about you. The offensive line presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert and Darren. Some initial takeaways from what Sean Kugler had to say the old line coach and run game coordinator today. Well, I know, for me the first one, and you know I'm going to say that I asked the question, so

maybe that's why I'm thinking of it first. But I thought he was fairly For a coach in the offseason, you're rarely going to get anything really concrete. But for him to talk about the center position the way he did that, you know both Lamont Galliard and Mason Cole were up and down, and that the position needs to take a step up and that they very well could bring in some competition, I thought that was fairly intriguing

to me. I mean, I think we've all talked about where Mason Cole was, and we saw Lamont Galliard get some snaps and some work in a couple of games last year. But I think they would like to get a little bit better on the offensive line. I think center makes a lot of sense and it's going to be interesting to see what direction that goes in. So that that's the first thing that I thought. So what do you think they might do if, in fact, they

were to bring somebody from the outside in? Somebody they thought, Oh, I don't know, like a Corey Linsley. Wouldn't that be awesome if that were the case right there? But what do you think they do with Mason Cole Well, I mean,

you've got a guy who can play guard. He has played when he hasn't played center, He's played guard and done, and all of a sudden, you've got another swing person that gives you some depth and that you know, that was a big deal for them last year, was talking about Okay, not only do we have our starters and they stayed fairly healthy, which was good, but we've also got depth that if somebody gets hurt, we feel a

little bit more comfortab plugging them in. Then maybe they were in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen, you know, in that situation when they had their offensive line injuries. So you know, I know the Packers center, like you mentioned, has been out his name has been out there, But again, how much are you willing to pay for some of the stuff and where does that fit with everything else?

I mean, if Patrick Peterson ends up leaving, you're you're basically looking because I think Byron Murphy still works best as a slot cornerback. You're basically looking to replace both your starting cornerbacks. And yeah, maybe one's in the draft, but you're gonna have to go get one somewhere. And I just think with all the different things they have, I don't know if they can necessarily afford to spend there. I could be wrong, but you know, I don't know

about that. Well, did you guys see what Corey Linsley told Serious NFL Radio today. Quote it looks like all signs points to snapping the ball somewhere else next year end quote Corey Linsley. So he's resigned to leaving Green Bay and we'll see, we know. Sean Coogler today called it an open competition at center. I just got the sense he was a little salty. I mean, for February, he definitely wasn't in a very good mood. Now he wasn't He wasn't cross with the media or anything or short,

but there wasn't a smile cracked. He mentioned how they were the most penalized team in the NFL and the old line was a big part of that and there were a lot of pre snap penalties by the old line. I mean, he had his game face on in a lot of ways to me. In February and then he was asked about Josh Jones rookie year and how he might play into things in year two for the kid out of Houston. He got his feet wet last year, but he didn't have to be pushed into a starting role.

I thought that was good. I thought he handled his rookie year extremely well, not only on the field but in the room. I saw a lot of growth. We're very excited about him. He offers position flexibility. He could play tackle, he could play guard. We'll see where that goes as we get into the offseason. Is that viable wolf? Could he be a guard? Yeah? Jones? No, absolutely, You're gonna get your five best out on the field in any way you have to do that. You're gonna go

ahead and do it. If you don't feel that Josh Jones is ready to play on the adge out there well, you know when you move them inside and listen, this guy has got an awful lot of talent. There's no doubt about it. We all were jacked up when the Arizona Cardinals were able to get him in the third round. There are many people who believe that he was a high second round pick, maybe even a late first round pick in some mock drafts, and to get a guy

of that quality is significant. Listen the OTAs and not having the OTAs and the truncated preseason and no preseason games. Are you kidding me? It was a disaster for Josh Jones not to be able to develop like that an offensive lineman. The big jump from college to the pro game is beyond significant, and he was trying to do what I consider to be the impossible. Darren, what do you make of right tackle? How wide open is it right now? Oh? I mean, I think it's pretty wide.

What's going to be interesting to me? I think they really like the job Kelvin Beecham did on the field, and everybody I talked to. Obviously Weeding get to spend a lot of time in the locker room, Paul, but everybody I talked to, he says, He's a major factor as a leader in the locker room. So I think in a lot of ways it would make sense to bring him back. What the question is, how much would you be willing to spend on him? Could he get

more money elsewhere after the year he had. I mean, I don't think he's going to break the bank or anything. But again, this is all going to be very compact in terms of all these different contracts, and you know, I think I could see a scenario where he comes back and plays right tackle. And when you talk about Josh Jones playing guard, I mean they are going to need a right guard potentially. I think you Jr. Sweezy's

probably gonna leave as a as a free agent. And then you know, as justin Murray stay there, do you maybe use Jones? What do you do with Marcus Gilbert, who whose contract tolled while he opted out last season, so he still has a year left on his deal. I think there's a lot of things to be sorted out, and that's why it would be so nice if they were able to get some OTA's this offseason. And right

now it's it's kind of up in the air. I'm not super optimistic about it, but you never know, maybe they'll decide, Okay, the regular workouts, we're going to stay out virtual, but you will be able to get together seven to ten times for some on field stuff if you go through the proper protocols. And I think we all agree, Guys, dj Embrey's had a Pro Bowl caliber

season a left tackle. What about left guard? We know Justin Pugh had a great season by the assessment of Sean Coogler bod He's got a big number attached to his name and would seem to be a candidate to

get trimmed and be a sour cap casualty. What do you think of that, Darren, I think it's I think those kinds of things are on the table, especially again if you start talking about eight Josh Jones could potentially play guard, and oh, by the way, they you know, they they still have Justin Murray and they've you got some other possibilities Mason Cole maybe or Lamont Galliard, even although I think he makes more sense at center. So I think they're gonna have to figure some stuff out.

What we don't really know yet is how they might address where they are with a cap room and from the from the numbers that I've seen out there there, they Ballpark are gonna have around thirteen to fifteen million dollars in cap space, which is an okay number, but when you think about how many people there they could be losing because none of that includes them. I mean that already wipes out Patrick Peterson's number, and as Reddick and Larry Fitzgerald and Kenyan Drake. So you're talking about

having to replace those guys potentially if they leave. So there's a lot to be figured out. And I don't know what direction they might do. And you know, does Justin Pugh take a pay cut or could they cut him or do they just run with him saying, hey, he had a really good year, We're just going to live with his number because it makes sense, and we'll

find that space elsewhere. That's still to be determined, and I do think there's an outside chance they could make some moves as we get closer to the New York League year. I think it really comes down to Justin Pugh as well, in his society level with the Arizona Cardinals,

how much he likes being here in Phoenix. Because these are the decisions a lot of guys in the NFL are going to have to make one year decisions where you're gonna have to say, listen, I'm going to take a haircut on this because of the salary cap situation being what it is. How much do I like the fit, how much do I like the city? How much do I like being here? Am I going to live here when I'm done? A lot of things come into play on that, but I can see just Stin Pew taking

a haircut as well. Well, you know. Sean Coogler had thoughts on how the old line can get better. He also said as an offense, the Cardinals need to get more consistent. That flashes of greatness and offense didn't get

them where they wanted to be. So how We'll get into that next with Darren Urban on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Boord and Gilbert shot guns naff to Murray, stemps up and takes off far side of the twenty got room at the ten, cuts right to the five jukes to defender and score touchdown Kyler Murray a twenty two yard run, his second rushing touchdown of

the game. That defender is in multiple pieces at the five yard line because he tried to break down and make that play, and Kyler broke him down when right through Washington secondary life buttering the microwave, Baby, I see an arm of foot, a piece of the torso on the ground there of the Washington defender as he got shook by Kyler Murray. That was spectacular. Oh my goodness.

It's just it's unfair that week to win against Washington thirty to fifteen Cardinals at twenty seven three in that game, and Kyler Murray had a pair of rushing touchdowns fourteen and twenty one yards right there, and uh yeah, that was a Cardinals two and oh start. And Kyler in year two. It is the big Red Rage presented by

santan Ford and Gilbert. We are Satan for Paul kelvc Ron Wilfley and Cardinals insider Darren Urban and Darren I've tried to tell Wolf that I see Kyler's third year being a lot like what Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen did in their third year taking the Cardinals to the postseason. I think is going to be the ultimate gauge. And I just think the way those guys had pretty good starts of their NFL careers although they didn't make a

Pro Bowl like Kyler did in year two. I just think that year three is going to be a huge launching pad for Kyler and his play and as a leader. What do you make of that statement? I mean, I hope so it's funny. I have to smile a little bit because at this time last year, what we were saying was, I think year two is going to be that year for Kyler Murray because that's when Patrick Mahomes made his big jump and Lamar Jackson made his big jump. I think year two is going to be it for

Kyler Murray. And then he obviously played very well this year a good chunk of the times, but there are other times when you wish you would have been a little bit better. And now we're kind of like, okay, maybe it's year three. I do think this. I think that I think there's gonna be a lot of for lack of a better term, pressure on Kyler next year, on Cliff Kingsbury and just how this team is going

to go. There's an assumption there was once once they got to five and two and even six and three, I think there was an assumption they were going to make the playoffs, and we all know that it was a massive disappointment they didn't. If they don't make the playoffs next year, and there are ways where they could not make the playoffs and play good football, and there's nuance there, but for the most part, if they don't make the playoffs next year, I mean, what are we

talking about here? What are we what are we doing? And I think Kyler Murray taking that kind of step that you're saying Paul is going to be a big part of it. But I do think it goes beyond just him. I mean, I do think they need some offensive skill pieces around him to help them get there. And you know what, with that in mind, Sean Kugler was asked about the offense as a whole in general and beyond Kyler and what can they do, what should they do based on what they learned in year two

with Kyler under center? They're going to try to take away Kyler because he's such a dynamic player, and you know, there is you know, standards of different ways of trying to do that, but it also opens up other things as well, So you know, sometimes they have to play it perfectly or Kyler's going to pull it and when he pulls it, he's very dangerous, and if they do the thing is to take it away. You know, we just need to be efficient enough in other areas where

we can handle that and excel theoretically. Well, if they're going to put all that attention on Kyler, which seemingly happened in the second half of the season, the Cardinals should be able to make them pay in other ways by exploiting that defense in other areas, Right yeah, PAULI. For me, it's all about running the ball in a north south fashion, and it's the one thing I think

they kind of got away from last year. It's the one thing I think when I go all the way back to twenty nineteen that really made Kyler's rookie year as special as it was the fact that they could run the ball in between the tackles in a north south way, and the second half of twenty nineteen with twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends, they really did a good job of running north and south. What's happening right now is you've got to defensive edges. Whether it's

a defensive end or whether it's an outside linebacker. You got the edges right now and They're not going to let Kyler run the ball. They're not going to let that happened. So what do they do. They stand there on the edge and they force him to hand that ball off. And there's a lot of people right now that are working on a defender actually trying to do both to force that. Now, it hasn't worked great. It's the reason why the zone read is what it is. But there's a lot of things that's an edge guy

can actually do to confuse a quarterback as well. All he's got to do is crossover and act like he's going to take one step down the line of scrimmage and then stop and suddenly the quarterback was reading him to close and takes the ball out. And it's a tough proposition. You see teams doing this to Kyler Murray on the edge. They are defending Kyler Murray, which means, hey, listen, just hand the ball off and run it in a north south way, run it well and you'll gain yards.

Sean Kogler, the fact that you know he got the promotion and the title on the offseason, Okay, is it really just about that or do you think that signals a different direction with this offense, Well, he certainly wasn't going to go there today he was asked specifically about that, and he basically said, there's really going to be nothing different. He just has a new title, and I had a feeling and then it was something like that would happen

if if he was asked. I don't know if there's going to be a whole lot of difference everything I understood about what they were doing already. Sean Coogler had a huge part in their run game in the first place, and in fact, Cliff Kingsbury has said that multiple times. So do I think it's going to be a lot different? I don't think the offense per se is going to be a lot different. Again, you know, I go back to like, what kind of personnel are we talking about having.

Are they going to bring back Keane Drake again, or are they going to go and have a bigger back which changes the dynamic a little bit, Chase Emmons or a bigger back. You know, I would love that date what's that? I would love that, honestly, if with a bigger back and hammer the ball in between the tackles. Right now, I've that to me. The physicality I think is where they can improve the most. What would that bigger back do for the offense? Though, well, for real quick,

I mean just football one on one? What would that do that perhaps a Kenyan draker Chase Edmonds can once again, You've got guys on the edge, Paul, that are trying to force Kyler Murray to hand the ball off, So good hand the ball off and let somebody rip it for four yards. Have somebody come off the ball. You've got to change the mentality. I think of what we saw last year, I didn't think they ran the ball as well as they did in twenty nineteen. That was

the difference. I know in the first nine games of the season it looked like they were there's no doubt about it. But teams figured out the Arizona Cardinals in their rushing attack and the second half of the season. Can we agree on that? Yep. And that's why I would totally agree on that. And that's why I threw the question out Darren, Okay, are these a few tweaks or they need a different direction, a new philosophy of

sorts on offense. I come back to my question. I think that is the question in the offseason, the offense well, I guess, and I would defer to Wolf in terms of the actual analysis here. There's a couple of things. One, I do think they need another pass catcher that would that would make their passing game a little bit more dynamic than it was with basically DeAndre Hopkins, and then some other pieces that weren't doing as well as they

wanted to. But let's go back to two years. I mean, and again Wolf can answer this question with what they were. They weren't running the ball as well last year a lot of the time when it wasn't Kyler as they were in twenty nineteen. But were they doing things differently offensively? I don't think they really were. I think they were

just not doing it well. So that tells me the offense wasn't the issue as much as the execution, because if they were running basically the same offense and just not getting the same production, I mean, because we saw down the stretch in twenty nineteen, that running game looked pretty good. Yeah, you know, he's so weird too, because Kenyan Drake, would you say he was productive? D There's no doubt abound he was productive. Nine hundred and fifty five yards. He was forty five yards short of a

thousand yards rushing. He had ten touchdowns as well. He was productive, but when you go back and watch the tape, I think he could have been more productive. Does that make sense? Even his mom at one point in the season, remember he told the story his mom said he was running laterally and he needed to go north south. So so yes, I think. And even after wins through the first half of the season, how many times did Kyla say, well,

we left a lot out there? Yeah? And so yes, that was your takeaway that even though they were winning, even though they were seemingly averaging close to thirty points a game in those first nine games, the offense was far from flawless. I mean, there was a lot that they left out in that guylon. It was Kyla, right, it was Kyler Murray, and it was Kyler running the ball an awful lot. And then team said, you know what,

we're not going to let him do that. We're not gonna let Kyler Murray beat us on this zone read We're not going to do that. We're not gonna let Kyler Murray run the ball on an RPO or hand the ball off on an RPO. We're going to force him to actually throw it, and you can do that. That's the one thing about defense, if in fact you want to dictate to the offense, when you run RPOs and you run the zone read a defense can dictate

what happens to the offense, especially in rundown situation. If you want as we as we as we wrap with Darren Urban here, well, if you want to know what it's like to be a Cardinals insider, Darren, to what degree are you following social media twenty four seven in anticipation of some sort of indication from Larry Fitzgerald. I don't know if I'm necessarily following it, but I got more notifications on Twitter, different Twitter people than I normally would.

Let's put it all like, okay, all right, just so you know, I'm just saying you don't really start your off season until Larry makes his decision. I guess that's what saying. Thank you, buddy. Thanks, All right, there you go, Darren Urban, keep up the good work at acy Cardinals

dot com and beyond. We continue with a big Red Rage presented by Satan Ford k Gilbert Garoppolo out a shotgun McKinnon in the backfield with him Garoppolo as the ball, thankes the handoff stands of the pocket pumps and in trouble backs up still ask the ball and then he's finally wrapped up and sacked by Chandler Jones. Are you planning on cutting Chandler Jones? I'll reject that. There you go, that was pretty definitive newsmaker's week. I'll get it right.

Doug in Wolf ninety eight seven FM Arizona Sports Doug with a question and Steve Kim with a pretty concrete answer on the future of Chandler Jones. As there's been speculation out there, Ron Wolf, please you guys discussed with the Cardinals GM. It is a big red rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert Special thanks to Darren Urban

Cardinals Insider. But when it comes to Chandler Jones and the fact that he missed most of last season and he's coming back this season with twenty plus million do him on his final year of his contract, I guess that does make him a target of speculation. But to assume that makes him a salary cap casualty, well, Steve Kime shut that down. Yeah, you know, and rightfully so. I would say it's a bicep terror of course that

he's coming back from. And that's great because you don't want it to be something with his lower extremities paly like a like an Achilles or an acl or something like that. Right, you'd rather see it be an upper body injury like what he suffered, rather than something with his lower body. That's so critical for an edge rusher,

especially at his age. Right, the dreads thirty plus and then there's always this speculation, and rightfully so is it really a one year injury or is it going to take him two years to come back if it's a knee or an achilles. So look, if Paul Pencilnet can come back from a recent bicep, Arry, you know Chandler Jones can. So I think we're all looking forward to that. The question was a strain, It was not a terror. The question is, and I'll show you this car to

prove it, Ron wolf Lea. The question becomes, are they going to get a contract extension done and bring his cap number down? That might be one way to work it. And either way, who are they going to get to be his bookend pass rusher? N Reddick's still going to be here Marcus Golden. I mean, how critical is that, Paulie. This is something that you and I have ruminated about the last couple of weeks. But to listen, you're looking at your edge and you're looking at your corner position.

Would you say that's important that combination once again, right for a defense in the National Football League and the year twenty twenty one of our Lord, I can tell you right now, the edge and the corner. That's kind of important right there. And the Cardinals have question marks at the edge and the corner, and that's I'm sure something that Steve Kim and his staff are going to address. How about a On Reddick on a tag? The tag window opened this week. Whether would you feel about that? Polly?

How would you feel if you got the transition tag? I think it might make a lot of sense. Obviously, it's tough when it comes to the numbers and the salary cap being reduced to one hundred and eighty million or so. We'll see the final number. But you want to see what exactly you have after year two at that position for a Son Reddick, right, I mean, he proved himself, but it was on such a limited sample size. You want to get a sense, Okay, is this for real?

And if he comes back on a one year deal and he's just as motivated as he was this year, then you get a true sense as to whether he has stained power as an edge rusher, especially at age twenty six. You want to know, Can I invest in this guy long term? Yeah? No, Polly, I would consider using the transition tag on Hassan, Right, can you give us one more? Can you do it? One more year?

You got? If you had Hassan Riddick and you had Chandler Jones out there, well you'd feel pretty good about the edge, especially if somehow, some way you can still bring back the junkyard dog. Marcus Golden is a guy that would play more and run down situations. Maybe a guy coming off the edge who you know he's going to give you everything. He's got a good rotation guy to be able to come in and play and be

a professional right there. I would love to see them do that and somehow some way still be able to bring back pat P. And I'm worried about that one because Pat P to me, I think of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers number one with Todd Bowles BA and maybe giving them a hometown discount, so to speak. And then the Kansas City Chiefs as well, Paulie with Tyrone Matthew there,

Tyrone Matthew has got great clout inside that organization. Andy Reid respects him greatly, and we know the friendship the brotherhood, if you will. Between Tyrone Matthew and Pat p I mean, look, Pat p has had better seasons obviously, and he was the most penalized defensive player in the league. We get that, But where is the Cardinal's defense without Patrick Peterson at corner?

On the depth chart? Yeah, I mean, to Darren's point earlier, they would need two starting corners at that point, and you don't know who's going to be there at number sixteen. A lot of mock drafts have the three big corners who are worthy of that selection already being gone before

the Cardinals select in the middle of the first round. So, to your point earlier about the importance of edge, rusher and corner remember what Steve Kyme always says in the first round, there are four positions that are most definitely worthy quarterback, left tackle, edge rusher, and cornerback. And so if you can maybe solve the edge rusher with a tag on a Son Reddick and Chandler Jones is coming back. I think that clears the way for the Cardinals to

target corner in round one. We'll wrap up this edition to the Big Red Rage next as he had him, We got him do Go Hawks, Hawks. I'm gonna see y'all in the morning. You can go to sleeping. That's reminiscent of a Sunday Live skit, is it? Not totally

except that's not the ladies man. That's Russell Wilson and Ciara from the master bedroom around midnight of the evening where he signed on the line that has dotted to become the highest paid player in the NFL when he inked his contract, and then our Jim Momahunter added the background music which is titled by the Way, Smoke Stacks of Sacks. That's the music bed right there. Just to

let you know, Polly, that was the beginning. That was the beginning of it all, where Russell Wilson did stuff that I think is out of character or at least my perception of Russell Wilson. That's where it's started, where he was doing things differently, Let's put it that way. Well, when you look at the tweet by Adam Schefter. We're wrapping up this edition of The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, and we're looking over the

block wall into the Seahawks backyard. And how can you not right now when you saw that in depth article out of the Athletic detailing the dysfunction and the divide was the word they used between Russell Wilson and the organization. And then Adam Schefter tweeted out that the four teams he would be willing to waive his no trade cause to would be Dallas, Vegas, Chicago, and New Orleans. So Wolf, to your point, I mean those are all big time media markets, a lot of glamor a lot of attention

in those teams in those markets. I mean those were selected to be both a player and an entertainer, if you will, to maximize his brand if you ask me, Yeah, Paul. And we've been talking about this since the whole Deshaun Watson thing as well, but right now, there was a concerted effort in the National Football League for franchise quarterbacks to have more say in the organization. You could see

this happening. I would you ever have banked on Russell Wilson and the Seattle Seahawks having this kind of supposed rift between them in the front. I would have never even imagined that. Paul. I know that he's kind of complained in the past a little bit in regard to his offensive line, and rightfully so, but nothing like saying I would accept a trade. Here are the four teams

I would accept a trade. Two and not that I want to be traded, but here's the four teams that I never in a million years thought we'd get to this point. And I can also say this, PAULI, there's no way it's going to happen, right, John Schneider, there's no way you're gonna trade Russell Wilson. Well, first off, if they do, it's a thirty nine million dollar cap hit. And I'll tell you it's a party in the NFC

West too. I mean, it wouldn't seem feasible. But in this story they talk about Russell Wilson and we all saw it during the Super Bowl, sitting in the owners in the Commissioner's box, and supposedly he was seething. According to the stories, he's watching Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes playing the Super Bowl. You realize the Seahawks haven't been

to the NFC Championship game since twenty fourteen. Wow, the Cardinals went in fifteen obviously, So he wants his ideas and his suggestions heated to when it comes to scheme and personnel and the story details. How John Steiner and Pete Carroll have quote dismissed him and his input and so yeah, there's a big rift right now between Russell Wilson and the team. Do you see what Buddha tweeted out today? Oh? They better hope they don't do it.

I'll believe it when I see it. Paul. By the way, how about a happy birthday to our guy, Rolando Canto, former Cardinals and our broadcaster. He is forty. I'm a man, I'm forty today, Rolando Canto? How about that? Hey's by the way, if you see him in an alley, go the other way, big guys, special thanks Jim A Hunter of Cody Fitcher, Darren Herban. This has been the Big Red Rage Number one. You've been listening to The Big

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