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Cardinals dot Com. Gentleman, how about it? The Big Red Rage, the first of the monte Asinford era, as he is the new GM and wolf You've been talking about it all week and we'll get some top takeaways. But in terms of maybe what you expected versus what transpired, how would you assess that In the naming of Monty Ostenford. Yeah, PAULA Man, I was pretty jacked up. I love his background, absolutely love it. I love the teams that he's come

from and been associated with. Definitely wanted to hear more of his personal beliefs on football of course and the football universe, and I really liked it. If you're asking me right now what my big takeaways were from this press conference and meeting Monty Ostenford. Number one, there's a new sheriff in town. That was that was number one ball.

There's a new sheriff in town, a number two. With that is going to come a new culture as well, and a new way of doing things, and I loved what I was I was hearing smart, tough, disciplined, physical. These are the things to me that I think the new culture of the Arizona Cardinals will be going forward, and it's very familiar to me, and I like that. I would say my takeaways Paul the first couple, and

they're they're fairly specific. One we talk about where he's from and the teams he's been around, which has been the Titans the last three years and then mostly the Patriots, and we all know what kind of histories that those teams have in recent times, which are good ones. But we also know that with Patriots Patriots people that have come out and done this stuff, there's a mixed bag sometimes on how it's worked out. And I loved how he noted that he's going to take a little from

everywhere he's been. But one, you can't necessarily take one thing from one building and transfer it to another building. And I like that thought process because you don't want him just to try and take the template, the Patriots template or whatever template and just try and bring it over here, because inevitably that doesn't work, because there's human beings involved, and there's and and that can throw it off. And I would say the other thing too is and

this is what I was most interested in. And I know a lot of this will have to do with what happens with the coach, But I asked a couple of times about Kyler Murray and his role in terms of the coach and how he was looking at things. And yeah, it was his first press conference, and maybe he just wanted to make sure we went in this direction, but he brought it. He made it real broad, real fast. Like he did not talk directly about Kyler Murray, even

on Kyler Murray questions. He made it about the team. He made it about the you know, the team needing a coach, a team that needed coaches that developed all players and a culture that you know, it's all about the team. So I thought that was kind of interesting. Yes, there was a press conference to start this week. It was the new GM monte Asenford and the team owner

of Michael Bidwell, who was asked why monte Assenford. As we went through the process and the whole process, it became clear that monte Asenford had the combination of a well defined vision, a work ethic character, the back around an experience and being with two great organizations, the New England Patriots as well as the Tennessee Titans, in evolving roles, and it became apparent all of the combination of those things that Monty was going to be the best fit

for us. And your point, Darren, somebody put out a list general managers who once upon a time scouted for Bill Belichick. Here you go, Scott Piola, the Chiefs, Thomas Dimitrof of the Falcons, Jason Light of the Bucks. Also came through the Cardinals building, obviously, John Robinson of the Titans, Bob Quinn of the Lions, Nick Casserio or the Texans, Dave Ziggler or the Raiders, and now monte As and

Fort of the Cardinals. But like you, guys, I do like the fact that he spent three years with the Titans. I do like the fact that he got up there and he said, you know what, I've taken bits and pieces from other places. Wolf. I'm not trying to replicate the Patriot away, because guess what, the Patriot wayte seemingly only really truly works for Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. Napoleon just nailed it right there, or I love what you said because it's a great observation. You can't try

to be Bill Belichick. Don't try to be Bill Belichick. And I think that's what a lot of guys do that come from New England. What would Bill do? Is what they ask? How should I react? What would Bill think on this? What should I what should my answer be on this quest? I honestly think he's got such a great reputation, of course, being the greatest football coach

in the history of the game. In my opinion, so many people when they leave there, they try to think like Bill and b Bill as opposed to just being themselves. It's a great observation and that really gets me jacked up because I love the combination. I love the fact that Monny was there for fifteen years. And I can tell you guys from knowing Bill Belichick, smart, tough, discipline,

that's what he's looking for. And to your point, Paulie about the Tennessee Titans physical, maybe the most physical team in the National Football League. Good, bad or indifferent, They're gonna knock your face off. And I like the fact he was there for three years. Here's my other initial takeaway and just based on what we saw and heard and what we've heard about Montias and forties that he's

very detail oriented. Would that make sense if you spent fifteen years in the Patriots organization and what was missing all of last season seemingly And I'm talking based on what the players told the media, what the coaches repeatedly cited, what we heard and hard knocks. How many times did we hear ratchet up the attention to detail. The little things are big things in the NFL. They will cost

you games. And we saw the same things, the same error as being repeated, this self inflicted stuff quote endquote we kept hearing about. So you know what it does get down to making sure you're making those sacrifices that sometimes might not necessarily be in your own best interests, but are in the best interests of the team. And maniastin Ford, well, he was asked about that and here was maybe the biggest quote that resonated. We're gonna look for the right type of players. Ego will not be

tolerated in this organization. There's one goal here as to win. There's no putting personal interests in front of the team. I was told once the definition of mental toughness is putting the team in front of something that maybe would have been better personally for me. So that, to me is the type of players that we're looking for. Ego will not be tolerated. Darren, did you get more of a response on your Twitter account to anything other than

that comment right there? That obviously got everybody's attention, And I understand why, and Paul, you and I talked about on our podcast this week. I mean, look, every player has ego if they get to this level, every single one, even Wolf had an ego. So the idea that no ego will be tolerated is probably not realistic. But if you're talking in context of not letting the ego get in the way of what is best for the team,

that's something you can get to. And he actually got to that later talking about how he was once told mental toughness was about being able to do something for the team when the opposite would be better for you to do, And to me, that's a little bit more of getting to where he was going. It was a great SoundBite. Don't get me wrong, I know I used it, but again, like I said, I think all these guys have an ego at sun level, and the question is

being able to work with it going forward. Yeah. Well, I heard an interview you did Real Quick with an kon Bolden this week. Yeah, didn't he say, you know what, I'd love to catch twenty catches a game, but there were games where I had to go out there and throw twenty blocks. Yes, see exactly, Polly, That's what I was just gonna say right now. You know, I think a lot of people took that ego cut and kind of ran with it right here when you could say this right now, ego. I think it comes down to

the schemes. That's the cardinal I think are going to run. This is what I believe it's it's Kyler Murray saying I'm going to go under center, and I'm going to do that more Now. I'm not saying this is the way it's going to be to me. When I heard him say that, it was all scheme related. It's okay, I'm gonna go under center because that's where I need to grow my game the most. Trey McBride, you know what, I'm gonna line up and be the stud tight end. I'm not gonna go ahead and be the move guy

all the time. I'm going to be a stud tight end and I'm gonna work on my blocking because that's what I need to do. They're not going to just throw me the ball. I need to develop my game and be more of a stud tight end, a y tight end, than an h which is a move guy. Isaiah Simmons, Hey, listen, if I need to get better in the box, they're gonna stick me in the box. They're gonna ask me to play inside linebacker. I need to get a whole lot more physical. I need to

accept it and embrace it. In other words, go out of your comfort zone and start doing some things in scheme that maybe you're not accustomed to or don't feel comfortable with. Well, you know what, for the team, maybe you have to learn how to do it. It's funny when you say that, though, Wolf, because when you're talking about scheme, we don't there's no coach, we don't know what the scheme is. So when I hear the general manager say it, it feels more big picture to me

then maybe what you would be doing on the field. Well, I guess what. When I heard him say that, right there, I thought general manager is going to hire a coach and be involved in hiring a coach who's going to think the same way he is. And I think that's the reason why I made that connection. Well and the person who hired the GM as the owner, Michael Bidwell, and after getting input from players and doing a lot of research on the season that was he had the

following to say, we need more accountability. And that is something that Monty and I talked about and it's clear that that's going to be an emphasis here and that's what he just described as setting ego aside, and it's all about accountability to the team. It's absolutely something our players are interested in and that's exactly what Maniasenford is about. And well, if that's about holding everyone to a similar standard, right, I mean, they're going to be superstars, we get that.

But to Darren's point, it's when that ego starts changing maybe a routine or maybe expecting different standards for you versus the rest of the team, when he becomes detrimental to the overall operation, that's when someone has to step in. Yeah, Paulis, there's no doubt you also have to check yourself and

your ego at the door. When you walk in. I understand that nobody's bigger than the team, and as long as you use the same approach with everybody, it has to apply to everybody inside that locker room, there can

be absolutely zero exceptions to it. And this is one of the reasons why I said my big reaction to Monty in his introduction to the world, so to speak, was the fact that, man, he was looking at the team and saying, basically, We're going to come in and I'm going to be the sheriff and this is going to change. Everything is going to change around here. Every player is going to be pulled through a filter, a culture filter, and nobody is going to be an exception

to that. I think that is the best way to go because once again, once you start making exceptions, you start to ruin that culture. And when you talk about approach, somebody asked him about that. As a personnel guy, I have a system that I believe in and that's where we're going to focus our time and attention, and we

are going to use traditional scouting methods. We are going to use analytical scouting methods, and we are going to every step of the way check our work make sure we're not missing something and continue to add competition to this roster at every opportunity that we have during the league year. And I tell you just my other takeaway from that Press scomer. When he did start talking about personnel and accumulating talent through the draft or making trades

a free agency, you could tell his comfort level. You could tell that's his wheelhouse, and that's what his reputation is as a real grinder who does all that sort of work. And so you know, maybe over the past few years, that attention to detail that we talk about, maybe some of that needs to be reinstituted in the

player of evaluation process as well. Well. Obviously you wish the Cardinals would have had more success in their drafts over the past few years, and so you would think something would need to at least be tweaked, if not wholesale overhauled. And and so we're going to see exactly what that means. It's going to be very interesting. And they're gonna hold the third pick in every round that they're picking in with their own choices, and that's a

that's a nice place to be. You hate being there, and even many said, he goes, I hope we're never picking number three overall ever again. But the last time they picked number three, they got a pretty good player and that worked out pretty well for them, So hopefully that'll happen again. I think we all know that player Goes still goes on a first name basis with the State of Arizona. Larry Fitzgerald, that guy, by the way, Darren.

Speaking of history, the last time the Arizona Cardinals went outside the organization hired an external candidate to be GM just GM was when nineteen seventy three. Think about that, I mean think we're talking fifty years since the Cardinals went outside the building for an external GM just a GM. Obviously Buddy Ryan was. So the question is now who

is going to be the head coach? And there are plenty of names that are out there, and there are plenty of names have already interviewed and reportedly are going to get interviews. So we'll get to the bottom of that. What sort of head coach are they looking for? Is there a formula? What is the best fit? We continue Paul lvc ron Wolfie, Darren Urban. It's a big red

Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. I look forward to working alongside Michael, and as he mentioned, a big step in that is finding our new head coach, and together with Michael and myself and the new head coach and everyone else in this organization, we're going to strive to find a collaborative environment where we are completely aligned in the football structure that we're going to put before this organization. Arizona Cardinals making their list checking a twice.

Let there be head coaching interviews, fast and furious all week long, reportedly will continue into the weekend. We'll see what sort of timetable they have acted quickly on a GM, honestly quicker than I thought they'd arrived at higher. That is the new GM, monti As and Ford from the Titans before that the Patriots. It's the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We are Santan Ford, Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley, Darren Urban And you made a

good point. We were talking about how there's not nearly as many head coaching openings this year as say last year, when there were ten there were ten head coach Now we've got half that many, and that might actually work to the Cardinals benefit here. I think it does because You're just there's there's a smaller pool of teams that need guys, So the pool of potential candidates, there's only so many guys that could be off the board even

if you were last. I'm not saying the Cardinals are gonna be last to hire, but yeah, it's it's a much easier road Toho in terms of figuring out who your guy might be and going after him. So does that make this a little longer of a process, because you know, you're it's not quite as urgent. I don't know. I mean, we're going to see how this plays out.

But there's still guys in the playoffs that I think they want to talk to her, they are talking to and the reality is is those guys don't get hired until after they're out of the playoffs, so you never know exactly who they're looking at and how long it might take. So Wolf before we're here from the Newton GM and what he's looking for in a head coach, do you do you think there's a certain type of head coach they're in the market for right now, especially

after this past season. Yeah, Paulia, I do, and knowing that there's been seven names out there, that have been floated around. The two offensive guys Sean Payton of course, and Frank Reich. They are the offensive guys. Five defensive names right now of defensive coordinators. That's um, I really really like. I like a lot of these guys, but in particular, Brian Flores is a guy that gets my attention right here. He is a tough, tough dude from

what I understand. And I'm talking about some guys that I know very very well, some players that you would know. I'm not going to use their name because I just don't know if it's fair to them. But things that these people have told me about Brian Flores, you know, it makes me feel good. It makes me feel like I know the guy a little bit more than I

know the other candidates. But when you look at it, and you you look at the names and the collection of five defensive chords, I think it's because of that separation. I think there's a real possibility that Monty and Michael want to hire a guy that has that separation from Kyler Murray, their franchise quarterback, where Cliff Kingsbury had a very personal relationship with Kyler Murray and almost a peer

type relationship with Kyler Murray. I think it appears to me the Cardinals may be moving away from that and moving more towards the elpha in the room, being a defensive minded head coach that has that built in separation from their franchise quarterback. We'll get Darren's reaction to that, but first, here's here's the new GM MONTI asin Ford he was asking what he's looking for in his next

head coach. I think there's the specifics in terms of leadership in developing players and coaches, in being a teacher of fundamentals, details, and techniques. We're trying to build a sustainable program here. This is not a short term fix. So we want a coach that sees the big picture and understands that we're not happy with just the results of twenty twenty three. We're building this for extended championship teams as we move forwards. All right, So the two

offensive names once again, Sean Payton, frank Reich. Frank Rereich reportedly has had his interview completed. And then the five defensive names that are out there, Niners defensive coordinator Demiko Ryant's former Dolphins head coach Brian Flores, current Cardinals defensive coordinator Ban's Joseph who interviewed this week. You have Detroit defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn who reportedly is going to get an interview, and then Broncos defensive coordinator at Giro Varro,

And so those are the names. Do you think they're more apt to go with a defensive guy because of that separation that Wolf sites. I think, I think that's a fascinating kind of concept and I would I think that that's a possibility. Yes, But again, to me, if you're doing that, then you have to have set in stone when at the moment you're hiring this head coach, you got to know who your offensive coordinator is going

to be. To me, you I don't. I don't think it's the thing where it's like I think I can get this guy. I think you got to know who the guy is going to be guiding Kyler going right there? Yeah, I mean, yeah you could. These guys are always asked, you know, what what kind of staff are you will

you be putting together? Yea, And nothing's nothing's set in stone. Uh, you know, there's always guys and it's happened over the years where you might think, and there's been you know reports, oh such and such is going to be this team's running backs coach or whatever after the head coach gets hired, and it never actually happens and for whatever reason it doesn't go through. But yeah, these guys have people in mind, um, but things can always change, and so that to me,

that's that's a big part of it. I mean, if if I'm a defensive coach, if I'm the Cardinals and I'm looking at a defensive head coach, that plan to what you're gonna do on the offense and with Kyler Murray has got to be almost that's almost as important to me as however you're going to handle this accountability stuff. For example, Brian Flores has a long standing relationship with Jim Caldwell. Yes, an offensive guy, so that that could be his answer. You can't tell me this is this

is just me thinking out loud. You can't tell me that. During the course of the Frank Reich interview, they said, you know what, Frank, if you don't get the head coaching gig, how would you feel about being an offensive coordinator for Vance Joseph Possible? I mean, Mike McCoy wants upon a time interviewed for the Cardinals head coaching gig and went to Steve Wilkes, and then Mike McCoy end up the offensive coordinator rights, And that's all true. And

the Caldwell things interesting because he's interviewed here before. Yeah, when I believe it was the Wilkes cycle. Yes, he interviewed with the head coach, so Michael Bidwell knows him. Yes. Indeed, how about the fact Wolf that some of these guys are former head coaches. The last two hires, Cliff Kingsbury and Steve Wilkes were first time NFL head coaches, whereas you have someone with the Brian Flores who has a track record, Vance Joseph who had a couple of years

with the Broncos. They actually were head coaches on the job. Go ahead, Yeah, No, I think that actually gives them an advantage in this. I just kind of feel like, you know, again, I'm not trying to read Michael's mind. I do not know. I have not talked to him at all. Right, he's not He's kind of playing this close to the vest right now. But um, yeah, you know, it appears as though I would really look at the experience that is there so much of the time. We

all know this. You know, when you have somebody and you have a breakup, you kind of go the opposite direction of the person you actually had the break up with. Whether it's a business relationship that you have or it's a personal relationship, whatever it is, you kind of go the opposite direction. And it's one of the reasons why I find it interesting that there's as many defensive coordinators that are out there and being interviewed right now. But

never forget this, guys. It's so important many Austin Ford and Michael they can sit there and talk all they want on about culture and the culture change and how that's gonna happen. And that's where it starts, guys. It starts with words, it starts with a thought, it starts with a belief philosophy, That's where it starts. But the head guy that's gonna be the guy that implements it on a tactical level, that's gonna be the guy that makes it happen. So I stepped on you there, wolf Um.

It's funny that you bring up the idea that these guys are, you know, have done it before. Cardinals don't do that. Cliff Kingsbury, Bruce Arians, Steve Wilkes, Ken, Wizon Hunt, who is before Hunt? Deny Oh, Denny Green, Danny Green would be the last one that Buddy Ryan And yeah, but but the last time, in particular, Bruce Arians at least was NFL Coach of the Year as an interim guy for most of that season in example, I will

I'll give you that one. And there was still he was like way late in the process and nobody was going to hire him. But once again, though derps stopp Yeah, I mean, I see a split that has happened here from what the Cardinals have always done, started with Monte Assin Fort. To your point of a when was the last time we actually hired a GM out with the nineteen seventy what um you know? So to me, maybe this is signaling a change in that direction. It was

nineteen seventy three. Wolf, you were wearing your O. J. Simpson onesie pajamas up there in Buffalo. That's what I was going on. Not at all all right, Darren. We appreciate the insight in the knowledge is keeping Wolf account We need accountability in the big red rage you bring it. That's what we enjoying it? All right, see a wolf?

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Ford and Gilbert Paul kelvc Ron, Wolfley and Wolf. Look, it's a fair question about Kyler a because we know that Cliff Kingsbury was hired a large part to be a combo with Kyler Murray. I still think it's one of the big reasons he got the contract extension, because if you're going to extend Kyler Murray, you were going

to extend Cliff Kingsbury as they were appearing. And then at the same time, you go back to when the Cardinals did hire Cliff Kingsbury, and the method behind that hiring, at least as explained by the decision makers at the time, was if you hire the next hot offensive coordinator, he's going to last one year because another team will gobble him up to be their head coach. But now there seems to be, as you have pointed out, a different approach this time around, just based on the fact five

of the seven reported candidates are defensive guys. So once again going back to the critical question for any of those candidates, they better have an answer when it comes to the quarterback and the offense. Yeah, Paul, you have to. I'm looking at this right now, and again I'm not saying this is the way that it is. I'm just saying for me, Paul, when I look at this job

one for Anny coach is to fix Kyler Murray. And when I say that, I don't mean that Kyler Murray's broken, just mean that I think even Kyler would admit he took a step back this year from the first three years that we saw him develop when he was a rookie. There's no denying the fact he came in and men, we could all see the talent, but he got better from his rookie year to year two. He got better from year two to year three. And then of course we know the results that the team experienced at that

point in time as well. Yes, they had two seasons in a row where they collapsed in the second half, but they did make it to the playoffs that third year right there, and even though that game did not go well, we all understand there was advancement five wins to eight wins to eleven wins in a playoff appearance. It looked as though everything was on track to continue to get better to me at least, and then all of a sudden Year four and he took a step back.

So the first thing that needs to happen is for accountability, and that is Kyler Murray saying, I need to get better. I need to have evolve my game. And that's what the new head coach is going to have to do. I think you've got the new GM. He's got to hire a head coach who feels the way he does. And Kyler Murray also that three headed monster right there. The GM, the head coach, and of course your franchise quarterback. They all have to be on the same page as

to what Kyler needs to do to get better. And Kyler's got to embrace it. When the Cardinals were seven and oh, just start the twenty twenty one season. Last season, he was a legitimate MVP candidate. Yes, fact, there's no arguing it. He goes and the season opener was at Tennessee and monte Asenford had a front row seat for what Kyler is capable of. He accounted for five touchdowns that day, and it's probably one of the reasons. When Monty was asked specifically about Kyler Murray, here's what the

new GM had to say. Kyler's got to get healthy, and we want to do everything in our power to help him get healthy. We want to see him out on the field. I've seen what a healthy Kyler can do. I did a lot of work on Tyler coming out of Oklahoma. I know that he is extremely talented with both his legs and his arm, and so, yeah, that does represent a challenge for us. We'll be ready for it. But the first order of business is getting Kyler healthy

and helping him in whatever manner that is possible. It's also a matter of identifying what was the problem this year. Yeah, I think before you can correct a problem, you have to identify it. And we've talked about this in the Big Red Rage Wolf that in twenty twenty one, Kyler led all quarterbacks in that Devoa deep throw categories sixteen plus airy yards and he was number one in deep ball accuracy. When he got hurt this year and he

was done for the season, he was dead last. So you can quibble with some of those numbers, but to go from the top of the rankings to the bottom. Yeah, obviously something was amiss, and so can they figure that out, both the GM and the new coaching staff and get him corrected. Yeah, PAULI can I just say right now, that's a couple of things on this because so much of deep throws throwing the wall down the field off

a play action, Paul, So much of that happens. And because of that, that's where the best kind of play action where you can take shots down the field comes from a quarterback being under center. It does because you're you're up on the line of scrimmage, you snap the ball and you're running to that mesh point where a running back is coming up. And man, those second level backers they got to sit there and they got to

honor that. In a lot of time, safeties will bite on that action as well, and all of a sudden, a seven step play action, you're chucking the ball down the field. But the other thing about that, Paul, Yes, schematically that is the truth about throwing the ball down the field with with that play action. But you better have an offensive line that can hold up as well. And we all know what happened to the offensive line

this year for the Arizona Cardinals. And I think that also contributed to a lot, because you've got to have guys who can hold up and pass protect while you're play acting. Yeah, you had ten different starting offensive line combinations. It was Yes, it was a constant moving target up front. There's no doubt about that. Here's Manias and Ford on what he learned during his fifteen years with the Patriots.

Every day going to work was a masterclass education of how to build a football roster and how to build a winning organization. There are core beliefs that I believe that I will take from there, as I will take from every step along my way that I planned to bring here and put my own spin on it and

make it the Cardinal way. So Wolf, when we have a chance to talk to Manias and Ford in depth, we're going to ask him about the line of scrimmage, your favorite topic, right, Jim mo'mandro and myself, we did a little research. We went back through the last fifteen drafts for the Arizona Cardinals. How many offensive lineman do you think the Cardinals have drafted in Round one or round two over the last fifteen drafts, going back through two thousand and eight, two. You're right, j DJ Humphreys

in twenty fifteen, Jonathan Cooper in twenty thirteen. Of course he was heard in the third preseason game. Was number never the same? Now Levi Brown was oh seven, that would be years sixteen. But think about that. Wow, only two offensive linemen around one or round two in the past fifteen drafts. Now, how many defensive linemen do you think I've been drafted? We're talking interior d lineman in round one or round two in the past fifteen drafts. Okay,

let's not get Kuki here. I'm gonna say one three, Okay, although although really they only got return on investment out of one, so in some ways you're right. Two thousand and sixteen, Robert Candici. But that was twenty ninth overall, two ten, Dan the Can, Dan Williams, and nose tackle twenty six overall two thousand and eight, round two, Klais Campbell. Oh yeah, round two, okay. So in the trenches there has not been that investment of draft capital, at least

near the top of the draft. Paulie. It's the line of scrimmage man on both sides, the ball right to the offensive line, the defensive line that's where the major rebuild has got to happen. As far as I'm concerned, I think you're saying the same thing. Yep. I just think Manias and Ford and company. They're gonna come in and they're gonna see that. Yeah, And I think that's where they start. That's just my gut feeling. Besides, you have a lot of weapons on this team. You have

a lot of skill players on this team. You've obviously invested the last couple of drafts in inside linebackers. So I just think if the first three picks are offensive line, defensive line, offensive line, again, I would not be shocked. Hey, joined the season ticket priority lists, by the way, and select your seats before the general public. Twenty twenty three opponents include the Seahawks, Niners, and Rams, plus the Giants, Cowboys, Ravens, Falcons,

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But Jaguars have wanted. But Jaguars have wanted. They have come back from twenty seven nothing to win the game and move on. How good is that? That's what I'm talking about. How about that? And Jaguars Radio as he had Frank Brangie and Tony Boselli with a game when he called, how improbable was that? I mean that was like epic. That was historic. Not to mention Jacksonville became the first team in the NFL to win a playoff game after finishing the year before with the worst record

in the league. Think about that. It's the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are satan Ford, Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley. And you know what, You look at some of these some of these reclamation projects, if you will, the New York Giants, the Jacksonville Jaguars and what they did from one season to the next, and you realize that five of the ten teams that hired new head coaches last year wolf made the playoffs. So if you get it right, you can get into the

postseason one season to the next. Yeah, no, you're right about that, Paulli. But man, is I listen to you play that cut right there? All I can think of two things, man, that's Brandon Staley. Brandon Staley and the Chargers ran the ball six times in the second half, Paul, six times, ouch, And they had a twenty point lead. And that's all they did is run the ball six times. Oh my goodness. By way of example, the Dallas Cowboys, they had an eighteen point lead at half over the

Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They came out the first ten plays they ran of the second half, they ran the ball six times, even though even though they weren't running the ball effectively in the first half, they came out and said, man, we're gonna go ahead and try to shorten this game right now because we got a really big lead. That's number one takeaway, and number two is just Trevor Lawrence, Paul, are you kidding me? How does that happen? How do you go out and throw three picks in the first quarter,

four in the first half. In somehow, some way you overcome yourself and all that doubt and all of that disbelief to go out and light it up the way that he didn't bring his team back. Oh, Paulie, you have to ask Trevor Lawrence, what do you becoming? And now they get the Kansas City Chiefs Patrick Mahomes in his career four and oh in the division round to the playoffs, and in nine home playoff games, Mahomes has twenty six touchdown passes in three picks. So we'll see

how Jacksonville fairs on Saturday. You brought up the Niners and Cowboys. This will be their ninth all time playoff meeting. Brock Purty six and oh as a starter right down the stretch. I mean, but then you look at that Niners defense and Wolf. It's hard for me to tell about Dallas because Tampa was so bad that I have a hard time gauging how good is Dallas, How legit

is Dallas. Now Michael Parsons was legit. Yeah, the sack and eight quarterback pressures, right, and Nick Bosa obviously NFL Defensive Player of the Year most likely what comes to mind when you think about Niners and Cowboys. That's it right there. I think of that defense. I think the San Francisco forty nine Ers defense actually going against Dak Prescott.

That to me is the matchup of the game right now, because that defense is so lights out and Dak Prescott played very very well, but we know from time to time he's been up and down and going out and lighting up the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and their defense is not like going out and lighting up the San Francisco forty nine Ers defense. That would be all together different. So yes, I think of brock Purty immediately, But because of the strip of the forty nine Ers, poly, I

just I don't see the Dallas Cowboys pulling the upside here. Yeah, the Niners d has allowed the fewest points in the NFL. The Niners have also won eleven in a row going back to the end of the regular season. All right, how about the Bengals at your Buffalo Bills. Bengals of one nine in a row. The Bills have won eight in a row, and then Josh Allen against Joe Burrow size that one up for us, Polly, all I can think of is tomorrow, Hamlin, Right, that's what you think

of immediately here. It's just the fact that it was Week eighteen. It was the final game that we're gonna play and it was gonna be these two teams, and yet here it is again, and Buffalo seems to be this team of destiny. Somehow, some way, the Miami Dolphins were hanging in that game in Orchard Park last week, and again they lost three games to the Buffalo Bills by nine points. Totally. You've got to be kidding me.

I didn't know and tested it was all season long, and now in this matchup right here, you've got Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow has all the intangibles, and yet you've got Josh Allen, who's got all the tangibles. He is an walking, talking stud. He's big, He's got everything you could possibly want in a franchise quarterback. He runs the ball, Josh Allen with conviction. He runs the ball, not like a quarterback runs the ball. He runs the ball like George

Kittle runs the ball. It's unbelievable. And yet he's a great team leader. He checks every box. And yet Joe Burrow has got this swag, and it's this swag that inspires his teammates around him. Josh Allen has a much better supporting cast than Joe Burrow has in Cincinnati. Yet I'm not counting out the Bengals in this game at all.

I think it's gonna be an awesome game. The Bills secondary is banged up, Cincinnati deep with receivers obviously, you know, although that Cincinnati offensive line is going to be missing three starters, so we'll see if they can protect Joe Burrow. Although what he gots sacked like eleven times in a playoff game last year and they still won. All right, Then the Giants at Philly, and we know what happened

in the season Vanale. Philly actually struggled a little bit, even though the Giants weren't playing all their guys, and man, the Giants look good and that win against the Vikings. How about how about Daniel Jones running at seventeen times? You talk about a quarterback running at Daniel Jones. What was going on there? Yeah, but Daniel Jones, Brian Dabo, what was going on there? Daniel Jones has developed so much, He's doing so well, and you can just see the confidence.

You hear me say this all the time that confidence is the currency of competition. You buy and sell performances based on your confidence level. And Daniel Jones's confidence is growing.

But I think I honestly think that Giants are going to upset the Philadelphia Eagles, really, and the reason why I say that is the one weakness I remember all the way back to when the Arizona Cardinals played the Eagles early in the season last year, the one weakness they had was running the ball, especially in a north south direction at them. That was the only weakness I saw on this team. Everything else was pretty lockdown, lights out, including Jalen Hurts and how he was playing. I'm not

saying that still won't be the case. I think Jalen Hurts in the offenses is excellent. But having said that, say Quon Barkley Man and Daniel Jones the way that he's playing right now, run the ball, attack the Eagles front seven in a north south kind of way. That's something the Giants do well. This could be an upset. That's my upset of the weekend because Wolf, if you get into second and long third and long obvious passing situations at Eagles defense had seventy sacks. Yep four players

with ten or more sacks on the year. That's all the more reason Polly, I think They're gonna go ahead and try to run the ball. And by the way, maybe the best matchup of the playoffs might be Dexter Lawrence the nose tackle for the Giants, going against a fellow All Pro and Eagles center Jason Kelsey. I mean, they ought to have sort of a picture and picture

of those two guys going after his Dexter Lawrence. He might have been the best player on the field despite everything that Daniel Jones did, I mean, especially at the end there, he ended up pretty much winning that game for the Giants getting pressure on Kirk Cousins. Polly, that is a great observation by you, so right on its spot on. Yet at the same time, you talk to

guys offensive lineman, former offensive lineman. You talk to some of these older guys, they wash, they watch at Jason Kelsey and they actually talk about him with reverence as to how good he is as a center. They it's really kind of cool. Both my brothers older of course, Craig twelve years with the Pittsburgh Steelers, younger Dale, you know him. Both they love Jason Kelsey, but also Max Starks.

If you talk to Max, you know, all these former offensive linemen, they they speak of Jason Kelsey with reference. I still love the story that Nick Sirianni told him. The start of training camp. They asked him, how did you convinced Jason Kelsey to forget about retirement? He said, well, I called him up, I kind of get a gauge where he was at. I sent him a couple of kegs of his favorite beer. He called me back that night and said, okay, coach, I'll come back and play

another season four him. That's an all time story right there. That's awesome. But I tell you, I watch him, and I watch your dexter Lawrence, and it's just further proof. If the Cardinals go with, oh, I don't know, a Jalen Carter or maybe top around two, the top center in the draft, I would have or Will Anderson Yep, no doubt. Just look at Nick bosa Hey special thanks to Darren Urban for joining us, Executive producer Jim Almahandro,

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