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Ep. 562 - Linebacker Devon Kennard joined Paul Calvisi to talk about how he feels heading into his ninth NFL season, how he sees the pass rush after the departure of Chandler Jones, the arrival of young pass rushers through the draft, expectations for Isaiah Simmons and Zaven Collins and his many off-field interests including real estate. Plus, Ron Wolfley joins Calvisi to discuss the tragic passing of Jeff Gladney, Kyler Murray joining voluntary OTAs, Rondale Moore’s upside and much more.

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Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, and he got jacked. This is the Big Red Rain presented by Santanford in Gilbert. Mary's Gonna score touchdown Slim to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm,

And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Hacy Cardinals dot Com, Slash Podcasts, The Red sn Rising Guard, Temperaturizing Vision Blurring, Rage taking over. Here's Paul Kelvc. I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready, and Ron will flee. It doesn't get any better than that horn. Unleash the far All right, maybe I'm missing it around, Wolfley, but I'm wondering when exactly does the off season start again?

What is this off season of which you speak? I really don't know, Bullie, but I'll guarantee you you missed it. I'm not sure it started, is my point, wolf Because every month this year we have had Cardinals news. Have we not yes, I mean at breaking news. We've had headline news. We're two days into June. There's definitely news to talk about. And unfortunately, right off the top here the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.

We are santan Ford. We do have tragic news to discuss before we get to all the football, and there's

plenty of it. But Wolf, when you saw over the holiday weekend that we got news of the passing, the tragic death of Jeff Gladney and his female passenger in a car crash in Texas, when you went to see Cardinals dot com and you saw his silhouette with his lifespan listed beneath it nineteen ninety six to two thousand and twenty two, and such a young life lost, and it just it reinforces that, you know what, we have the privilege and the pleasure of talking about the sports world,

which is far from the real world, but sometimes the reality and gravity of it all is unavoidable, like in this case with the death of Jeff Cladney. Yes, Polly, it really is. It's a situation just heartbreaking. There's no other way to characterize this. Jeff Gladney twenty five years old heartbreaking, of course, And the first thing I thought of, I have to admit this, Polly. I thought of the

Minnesota Vikings. I thought of guys that actually went out and played on the field with him, Guys that actually had more exposure to Jeff Gladdeney. Now there are some guys I'm sure inside the Arizona Cardinals locker room that knew him personally, knew what he was about, knew what he was doing, knew his likes and his dislikes, everything like that. But I thought of his teammates up in Minnesota, guys that actually went to battle out on the field

with Jeff Gladney and knew him a lot better. Because it's like anything else, Pauly, we know acquaintances that have passed those that have worked with us, of course, and it sat there's no doubt about that. Yet at the same time, this type of thing, Paul can bring a team together inside that locker room, and it was something

the team discussed. Initially Cliff Kingsbury addressing the entire team, and then the team broke into offense and defense, and then there were further discussions with position coaches, defensive coordinator, advanced Joseph yesterday on his message to the team after the death of Jeff Gladney at age twenty five, The players right now are still in in a processing mode

of you know, not knowing what to feel. Really, you know, it's again, you know, I would dB group is really saddened by this, you know, and I totally got this morning. I say, you know, life is precious not only to you, but to the people who invest in your life, your parents, your team, makes, your your cousins and your friends. Right, that's so important in life. You know, it's not about you all the time. It's about people who invest in you.

And sometimes young folks think it's about me. It's my life. I can do whatever I want. You can't because when those things happen, it affects all of us, right, the folks who invest in you. Man that you owe him, you know, and we make choices and those are free, but the consequence they're not. And that's that's plain for our guys right now. Really well said all right, aunts, Joseph, we were sitting there in that room. You could feel

the emotion. It was a very poignant message that he shared that, and he told his younger guys in that room, and as you know, will if the Cardinals issued a team's statement, the Red were devastated. Lauren to Jeff Gliden, he's passing our hearts go out to his family, friends and all who are mourning this tremendous loss. And there's no real good way to segue, Paul, obviously, But on that same day, the Cardinals had OTAs And why were

all the cameras? Why were there so many cameras? So why were they all pointed in a singular direction towards number one? Kyler Murray, who was in attendance? Your takeaway and what is the magnitude of the moment of Kyler Murray actually being there in person, because there are plenty who doubted we would see him this offseas. Yeah, Polly, you know, I really don't know what to make of that.

I was just glad to see Kyler Murray out there, listen, especially coming off the Jeff Gladney tragedy, especially coming off that, Polly, I don't know if that had absolutely anything to do with Kyler Murray and some of the other veterans actually showing up. I have no idea on that, but I will tell you the timing was fortuitous, was it not? For everybody the grieving process, Polly. I think it's important. Listen.

It's interesting because the Amish have a saying of wisdom, Paul, that says, the most important things in your home are people. And there's no doubt about it. When you walk inside that building, when you walk into a locker room, man, that paradigm in there. Your brother is the guy lined up next to you. It is a close, close fraternity, as you know very very well. And because of that, I was so glad to see that Kyler was there.

And again, whether he planned to be there or not, I don't know, but I do know that that leadership wheel was a little ajar with the news of Jeff Gladney, and now all of a sudden that gives the leaders inside that locker room the opportunity to grab it and stabilize. An unquestioned team leader is Kelvin Beecham. Would you see Kelvin Beecham as a wise man, Ron Wally, My goodness, he is just one of the guys I would have

loved to have played with. So when he asked him he met the meat yesterday and he asked just about the presence and the arrival of Kyler Murray. Did he mention anything about on field? You know, Okay, it's an ota and you're throwing against air for the most part and all that. No, he went a little deeper and listen to the story that Kelvin Beacham's starting right tackle shared about his quarterback. Now. Just walked by the team room and he's leading seven or seven fim work, So

he's putting into work. You know, it's been a maturation process, like I've said this entire offseason, and he's continuing to get better and he's continuing to mature. And I think when you look at somebody who you want to see progress a weekend, a week out, year in a year out,

that maturation process is really starting to take place. And you know what, that's the best news I think you could possibly get in addition to him showing up and maybe hopefully that makes people bullets shut and deal getting done and hopefully in time for training camp, maybe even in time for the mandatory mini camp later this month. But to me, Wolf, my opinion on Kyler in the next step, thanks for asking, would be exactly what Kelvin

Beecham just cited. The ability to show that leadership because when he is a franchise quarterback, and he is and he's certainly going to be paid like one real soon, we expect that. You know what, that is part of the job description. You are a big part of the culture. You are a big part of the DNA of this team. And guess what the offense revolves around you. Cliff Kingsbury formulates this offense based on what your skill set is.

So I think it's imperative that he is in there leading some of these sessions, sure, and hopefully holding guys accountable as well. As Aj Green told us on a recent edition of The Big Red Rage, the players welcome that. And you know what, when you're the franchise quarterback, they're looking to you for that. Yeah, Pali. The entire pass apart two, The key that unlocks all locks to this entire conversation can be found in what Calvin Beecham is saying.

He's not a finished product. What he basically is saying, I'll give you translation, Kyler Murray's not a finished product and he needs to work at his job. I mean that basically is what he is saying right now. And he's also saying he's reporting. I should say that he is doing just that. The maturation process and working at his job means he is running a seven on seven tape session. He is running at Paul, I'm telling you right now, you have no idea how important that is.

When you get your quarterback, your your quarterback grabs the clicker and he starts running the meeting, every eye is wide open, every spine is straight, and you sit up and you know this guy is not a coach, and that puts you on alert immediately. Believe it or not. It seems counterintuitive, PAULI, but it makes even more people sit up in their chairs. When a quarterback grabs a clicker and he starts talking about what's what. That's a

great sign of leadership. And well, if you know this, the best situations in an NFL team are where the quarterback is the culture. I mean, how did the Bengals advance to the super Bowl out of nowhere last year? To it's two words, Joe Burrow, he was the Bengals culture. So when the Cardinals made the run to the Super Bowl, and I've talked to him about this on Cardinals Underground, the podcast, it was Kurt Warner telling everyone we're not settling for a division title. No, the season starts now

with the postseason. It was Carson Palmer running those Friday practices all by himself. Basically, bea would just outsource to do his quarterback and it would be Carson Palmer barking out directions and holding guys accountable. So you're right, this is the next step for at twenty four year old franchise quarterback in Kyler Murray. And now he has Hollywood Brown in the fold. And as our Jim Almahundro said, because I don't want to actually take credit for this growan,

he said, is oklahomy. Hollywood Brown is in the fold. And we saw him out there as well, wearing number two, and then there's number four, Rondelle Moore. And he was asked about interacting with the Cardinal's new receiver, Marquis Brown. Yeah,

his lockers actually right next to mine. But great dude, solid guy, works hard, He's came in, he's asked questions, and so just to have that humility as a guy who's been in league for this is what's going on his fourth year, right, So just to have that humility and you know, set his pride aside and come in and want to learn and want to work is exciting

to see. So he's been nothing but great. Yeah, that is you know, Polly, I I have to go back to what you were saying about Joe Burrow and Kurt Warner. Those guys had huge personalities, huge personalities, they the swag that they had. Of course, yes, that one person can be your culture, but Polly, I think the Arizona Cardinals are in a different situation. Listen, Kyler Murray doesn't have to have that kind of massive personality. It doesn't have to have that kind of swag. What he has to

have is accountability above all else. He has to be accountable to his peers inside that locker room, Paul. If he's just accountable, it doesn't have to be the guy that's cracking jokes. It doesn't have to be the guy that's smoking a cigar. It doesn't have to be the guy that's got all this confidence oozing in swag. He doesn't have to do any of that. What he has to do is hold himself to an accountability level that nobody He won't hold anyone else in that locker room too.

Does that make sense, Paul? And then he has to be willing to walk up and hold others accountable. But he's got to hold himself to a standard. He won't hold anyone else too. And if Kyler does, if Kyler Murray does just that, Paul, He's going to be an awesome leader going forward. Hey, who's to say the Cardinals didn't need to see a little bit more that this week before they write that check, before they make that sort of investment, right, absolutely, PAULI. As Mike Garifolo reported

NFL Network, you know, look the constract extension. They're not sure if it's imminent or not, but it was a show a good faith from Kyler in his side that discussions on a new deal will pick up. So we'll see, we'll see if there's cause and effect. Here you can hear episode thirty of the Day Pass podcast featuring wait for it, jj Watt Oh Big Get by the Pash podcast. You can get that wherever you find your podcasts and

get the latest updates via Twitter at pash pod. All Right, it's a big red Rage and the big guest tonight is Wolf. I would say one of the big keys to the season, Kyler's number one to me, Zaving Collins is number two, number three. Dare I say Devon Kennard because in the NFL it's all about the quarterback and getting to the quarterback. Can the Cardinals do that? By

Stavon Canard? Next the Big Red Rage presented by Satan Port and Gilbert we Are Satan Poor jet sweep to hack New New Yor's side and he gets clocked at the twenty five. What a vicious tackle by Davon Kennard snapped to Rodgers. He keeps, rolls right, throws a ball fat in the air and a complaint and complaint. It was canardin out a hand on it slammed the ground of the twenty yard line for a sack. Devon Kennard hands it off straight ahead to mos Dirt. He is short.

It was Devon Cannard who had the head. Lawrence takes kid the Robinson running right, met by Kennard, who got off a block and stuff the play, hands it off nowhere to run between the tackles. Devon Canard making a play on Alfred Morris in the backfield may feel hip, but he steps up again and he fumbles the ball. It's loose on the far side. Devon Canard hops on it.

He's got it for the Cardinals. All right, now about a highlight reel of Devon Knard, which is a reminder over here that I don't want this personally to be a low light. Okay, all right, Paul Pigskin, I feel like Devon. Then I'm almost interviewing right now for a future position with DK Incorporating, because we all know you have big plans after football, after your career, whenever it ends. And by the way, you're entering what your ninth season, round,

ninth season? You look really good? What are you wan at right now? I'm about two fifty five normal, Yeah, about the same way, Tom. But I've leaned out a lat, gained some muscle, loss of fat. So feeling really good going into this year. I thought I was winning the off season until I got to look at you right here on the big Red Range presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. Where do you want to start? I mean we could start by talking football. We could talk I

mean community, we can talk business. Right, you have so many various interests we could talk. No, you know what, we're not talking usc Okay, we're not talking Lincoln Riley. We definitely got to talk football. First, we gotta keep the main thing, the main thing, USC football. We're taking over goodness. I think I speak for everyone in the AC. We were much happier when USC was going five hundred every year and going to like the Idaho potato spud

bawl Okay. Now you guys are having these ridiculous recruiting efforts. Right with Lincoln Riley, we got we gotta put the Pac twelve back on the map. Things has kind of fallen off in the Pac twelve. College football is better when USC is on the Mount rushmore. So I think we're headed back. All right, Let's go back to another topic. Then that's enough of USC. You're you're off the field this week with the OTAs. Give me some impressions. You know, what's it like for you? What is your goal here?

You're almost a decade in the league, So what are you trying to achieve in these voluntary sessions. I'm trying. I'm still trying to get better. I feel like some of my best ball is still ahead of me. I feel good. I feel young, even though in football years I'm old, going on thirty one in my ninth year in the league. But I feel really good. And I love my craft, so I'm trying to get better, work on my pass rush, work on you know, my hands,

and just really improve. While you're here, you get the opportunity to kind of go against the offense, but it doesn't matter like it does during the season, so you can, you know, try new things. That's that's what's important for me, is you know, when you're younger, you're making all the efforts. You're trying to prove your point. I feel like everybody on the team knows what I bring to the table, and now I'm trying to add tools to my toolbox

this time of year. You know what the Arizona Cardinals do not add a veteran pass rusher in the off season. They lost Chandler Jones. But you can look at the old line room. You can look at running back. You're gonna get wide receiver, you can look at tight end. They've all bolstered those rooms. But although there's two draft picks, so what does that say? What does it about say about you and your role and what this defense is

gonna look like, especially in your view without Chandler Jones. Now, I think it provides a lot of opportunity for everybody in our room, and you know, Marcus Golden obviously is gonna gonna step up in a major way. But we have me and Dennis Gardek. We got three rookies that we dressed, drafted, and Victor de mckij from last year. So you know, I'm confident in our room. I think it's a good mix of young guys who are hungry and some veterans who really know what they're doing, and

we're gonna get the job done. I feel like it's gonna be, you know, a really explosive room and exciting room, and we're gonna be a big part of why we win. Devon Canard our guest on the Big Red Race presented like Saantan Ford and Gilbert so no Chandler Jones. What does that mean for this defense this year? I think it means that other guys have opportunities to step up, and I think it's gonna be a great chance for guys like Isaiah Simmons to be, you know, to play

a bigger role, Zavian Collins, Marcus Golden myself. You know, Dennis Gardek just signed a bigger deal and you know, two years ago before his acl showed what he can do pass rushing, So you know, um, I think it's going to be a mixture of a lot of different things and you're going to be able to see what we're all capable of. And you know, Chandler Jones is hard to replace. That's a Hall of Fame player one

hundred plus two sacks. So I don't think anybody's stepping up and be like, oh, I'm the next Chandler Jones. But uh, you know, my focus is being the best Devon Knard I can be in helping this team win. Does the scheme have to change? Does Vance Joseph have to do something different? I don't know, Maybe go back to like twenty twenty when Chandler went down in Game five with the injury, right, I mean, does Vance Joseph have to do the exs and owes a little differently

this year? Perhaps? I don't. I don't think so. But that's more of a question for him, But for me, I feel like you provide other guys an opportunity to go out there and make place, and it seems like that's what it will look like. But we'll kind of see how things go the rest of this OTAs and once the camp starts, and of course this defense doesn't have Jordan Hicks rights. And you mentioned Zavian Collins. How does he look so far? How ready do you think

he is for that middle linebacker spot. Zaven really impress me. You know, he takes the game very serious and um, you know, as a very smart kid. So I'm excited to see see what he can do. You know, he played a limited role role last year, but I feel like it's going to be a much increased role this season, and it seems like he's ready to step up to

the plate and take ownership of that. You'd like to see in your inside backers, Uh, they can demand the huddle and demand the room and really understand what everybody's doing because you're kind of orchestrating. You're the quarterback of the defense. And you know, I think he's showing all of us that he has that in him and that's really encouraging. So I'm excited for him. Devon Canard, our guest on the Big Red Rage Train, tell us football one oh one? Just how detailed, right? How complex is

the Cardinals defense? How many checks does this defense make snap to snap? Just reacting to what an offense does there's probably a lot more than we realize. Correct, Oh, absolutely, you know. But one thing, we try to make it simple for us and complicated for the offense. So for us, you know, we categorize things in a way the way Vance calls calls our plays to where you can kind of lump certain defenses together to where you're not memorizing

a thousand different defenses. They all kind of have, you know, like a bucket that they go in like so to where it's quick recall. And I think that's really huge because it makes it easy for us. But now we're able to call pressures from the strong side, from the weak side, from the tight inside, from them, from the running back side. There's a lot of different ways that we can we can bring pressure, a lot of different

guys that we can utilize. Um, you know, we can run run guys like Isaiah Simmons and bass defense and nickel defense at safety. We can do different things and it looks like guys are all in different places, but for us, it's not complicated. So I think I think that's the key in this defense and provides us an opportunity to be successful. And it's really important that we take the next step in on defense. I think we did a lot of things well, but we didn't put

together a full season. How we plan to Yeah, Buddha Baker said the other day to the media, said, you know, one, we got to seven and oh ten and two and maybe guys got comfortable. How would you diagnose what happened with those five losses in the last six games? What did happen? It's hard to pinpoint on one thing, but I'll just say, you know, you can never rest on your laurels in this league. I've been in the league a long time and I've realized that, and you can

you can never get comfortable. And I don't know that we got comfortable. Our work habits were the same, so I'm not I'm not gonna say that that was the case. But I think attention to detail later in the season really matters. So we got to start making points of that now and get be further along. So the little details, you know, if we're supposed to be if you're a covered guy and you're supposed to be outside leverage, make sure you're you're outside leverage. Other you know, if you're

gonna get beat, get beat away from your leverage. Not to your leverage if you're if you're an edge guy like myself, but and there's a defense and it demands us to slant to the B gap. Make sure you get all the way in the B gap. Don't get cut out. Just little little details you really gotta be on and you got to be exact with as the year goes on, because team starts a game plan and they have a lot of film on exactly what you've done,

and it's it's about execution late in the year. You know, I've been on a lot of teams and a lot of people say, you know, the season really starts in November and December. You know, September and October. You're earning the right to go out and compete in November and December and for those games to matter. So you know, September and October is great, but November, you got every team has all this footage on every player, on what the scheme is doing, and it's who can out execute.

So you know, at the end of the day, I just don't think we executed as well as we could have last year, and that needs to be a point of emphasis now all the way to the Super Bowl. Cardinals edge guy Devon Canard, our guest on The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. Of course we know the second half of this season hell all

hard knocks. They're building this as bringing the heat on hard knocks as they're coming to the az What do you make of that, because I'll just tell you my personal opinion is that, yes, it's about marketing, Yes it's

about branding, Yes it's about content. But if you listen to Cliff Kingsbury and you listen to Steve Khme talking about how it's never a bad thing to put a camera in someone's face and see if you get the best out of them, I think there's a football decision dynamic to this team fading each of the last two years and now here comes hard knocks the second half of this season. What do you make of the NFL

films cameras. I never thought of that, but that might be a spark, you know for some guys, whatever your motivation is allowed to be. You know, for me, it doesn't matter cameras not cameras. Like you know, I feel like we got to come to work and it's about winning games. So the cameras and the branding and the marketing. All that's cool, but none of that matters if we're not winning games. So you know, let's put ourselves in

position to September and October. So when when those cameras start coming, those games matter, Like you know, I just mentioned that now. Now those games are gonna matter even more if we're handling business in the first half of the year. Second half year year comes around and now the cameras show up and you know it's time to buckle down in the second half of the season. Let's roll, right. So, how comfortable are you in front of the camera, especially

after the NFL broadcast boot camp? What was that all about? Do you like that? Yeah, I got no problems being in front of in front of a camera. There's definitely definitely no issue for me. But uh, you know, I'm really serious about my work. So some guys, you know, for me, when it's football time's football time. And I think that's what allowed me to have the career I have. And people are you know, often asked like or are

you sidetracked? Man? You know, the amount of work I put into too football, the amount of training I put in I don't think people kind of recognize that everything else, I do a secondary Uh. You know, I'm very serious about keeping the main thing the main thing. But you know, some guys are video game guys. Some guys are are you know, do whatever else they do. And for me, it's it's business and broadcasting and that kind of stuff. So that's what I do in my free time. Do

you have any stock tips to vaunt anything? You can't? It's investing. You got any hot tips in this market? Right now? Man, buy and hold real estate for me. For me, I'm a big real estate guy. So all my friends who are in the stock market and they're getting crush right now, I'm like, hey, I always talk about mailbox money, and the checks is still clearing for me because I got tenants living in all my properties. So by real estate, tell Wolf to stop investing in crypto. Okay,

no more bitcoin Wolf, My goodness over there. So all right, what about the community as well? Didn't you and Dennis Gardeck have an event recently? I saw J. J. Watt was there as well. Yeah it was. It was at my old high school, which was a really big deal for me. Desert Visto. Yeah, yeah, so old high school out here, Desert vest To High school. Uh, it's the second year I've had a camp. Dennis came out and helped me out, and I tried to get as many as teammates as I could. They just got a new

head coach, Coach Gill, so he invited us in. We had over one hundred and seventy five kids, which was one of which I think is the biggest high school camp that that the Cardinals have helped host. You know, That's what I was told. So that's pretty cool. Hopefully we can keep keep getting bigger and bigger, you know, next year and moving forward. All right, speaking to kids, last question, the rookies Cameron Thomas, my J Sanders give

us some first Prussians so far. Man, I think they both have an opportunity to be longstanding guys in this league and can really step up and make a difference. M Maj's very athletic, smart, he really understands the game. And Cam has a unique skill set. You know, the kid is very big. He has opportunity to do a lot of different things, and you know, I'm interested to see how things go when the pass get on. It's hard to say. Most I can say the is in

the classroom. They're really starting to pick things up. And that's that's important because for me as a rookie, I was a fifth round draft pick and I ended up starting as a rookie, and young guys often asked, like, you know, what's the secret? And for me, if you can limit mistakes and don't make the same mistake twice, you're gonna put yourself in good position because now you can kind of play free. If you know what you're doing and you're doing the right things, then you can

let your athleticism take hold. So I think they're taking the right steps to really have the defense down. So when the pads get on and things get really get to get to crack and uh, you know, they'll be in position to make place and to come full sort speaking of starting, is it your job to lose opposite Marcus Golden? I don't know, you know, IM, It's it's kind of up in there right now. I you know,

I'm hoping, I'm giving the opportunity right now. I'm trying to compete to the best of my ability and you know, show what I can do and let the chips fall where they may. You know, Um, I'm not really one of those forecasting on what the situation is going to be. I know what's your confidence level? Though? If VJ says, okay, you know what you're starting and is your job. What's you started as a rookie in this league, So what's

your confidence level you can produce replacing Chandler Jones. I started my entire career in the league, so until until I got here in Arizona. So I'm very comfortable in the starting lineup, and you know, I would I would thrive on an opportunity to to, you know, prove that I can still do that. Nice all right, last question as you wrap it up here with Devon Knard, you guys are walking off the field. Recently, the social media cameras at Easy Cardinals posted the question which actor would

play you in a movie about your life? What was your answer? By the way, did I see you're one of the many guys said then Washington? What was your answer? I said Will Smith? But there was there was a lot of beef about that because he just recently slapped Chris Rock and all that, But I don't care. He's still one of my favorite actors. Will Smith is my guy. So I went with Will Smith. I knew everybody else was gonna say, Denzel, but look, the hands down Ringer

is your coach. And Ryan Gosling, I mean, come on with the sunglasses on, Ryan Gosling and Cliff Kingsbury. I mean that's hands down the winter. Oh absolutely, that's that has to be the go to. All right, Devon, we appreciate it, and Wolf better be really nervous. Okay when you're done playing and you come gunning for his gig as Cardinals analysts after the broadcast boot camp, your performance here tonight, we appreciate it. Hey man, I can't wait to join you. Guys. There you go, a Devon canard.

As we continue with a big red rage presented by Santan paul In Gilbert suck An eleven under centers. PRESCOTTI takes drops back and throwing drop ball, steps up and he gets away from a Cardinal, runs forward the ball forty and looks jump on it at the forty four yard line. Dak coughed it off and it's recovered by Arizona Off Dennis Gardak has the ball. Isaiah Simmons popped

it out, recovered by Gardak. A huge play by Isaiah Simmons, who came on the flints and then missed the tackle attempt, but continued to follow Dad Prescott downfield and punched the big out. What a play by number nine. Playmakers gotta make plays. Isaiah Simmons definitely checks that box. Even though he got behind on that play, he still made the play.

And we'll talk about that and more. It is the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert our special guest Devon Kannard might be your starting edge opposite Marcus Golden. We'll see Paul kelbc, Ron Wolfley and I really should have stayed at the end that Divinkard is coming from my gig. Forget about you, He's coming from my gig. He it was really nice, hahaha. Paul. By the way, what do you make of the fact that he said, I've started my entire career except when I

got to Arizona. He started as a rookie. You know, he's going into age thirty one his season. You know it's going to be his ninth season in the league. I mean, how equipped is he to potentially be a starter on the edge Marcus Golden, Well, you know, in this defense, I think he does have the possibility of emerging as an option coming off the edge, Paul. And the reason why I say that is because this is not going to be a skill dominated pass rush by

the Arizona Cardinals. This is going to be a scheme dominated pass rush by the Arizona Cardinals. And when I say that, when you say scheme, you're talking about there's gonna be five guys, maybe six, maybe even more. But there's gonna be five guys on most third and obvious pass plays that are going to be involved in rushing the passer. You're just not going to know which five are coming, Paul. That's the whole thing. You don't know.

Devon Kennard has the ability to be a player that I think would actually excel in scheme sacks very much like Dennis Gardak was. You know, he was a starter in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, most recently for the Lions. He had seven sacks in each season, nine tackles for loss in each season, and in one year he had fourteen quarterback hits, the other year at fifteen quarterback hits.

And I'm guessing the Lions didn't have a lot of leads and they weren't pinning their ears back and able to go after the quarterback with abandoned So those at least are the numbers. But to your point, he also mentioned that, yes, it is a scheme where Vance Joseph can bring pressure from virtually anywhere. He mentioned how Isaiah Simmons maybe from the safety spot dot dot dot. We'll see about that. And then you're gonna see Zaven Collins

a middle linebacker. Obviously, he spoke a little bit about that, but so did Advanced Joseph, the defensive quarter coordinator this week, and here's what he said about those two young insidebackers. It's their time. You know. Isaiah is going into his third years. Avan's going into a second year to first round picks to have to help us, you know, and it's heading that way. You know, I've been proud of his Zaven, how much time he's put in. Isaiah has

always been a good worker. You know. It's it's the next step for him. Obviously watching him last year, he made plays, you know, but now he has to make consistent plays and not give what plays. You know. That's that's this next challenge, and for Zavan to stand healthy and keep learning. But both guys are physically gifted, you know, so we have to get those guys ready to play because we need him. Boy, Paul, that is amazing right

there listening to Vans Joseph. And the reason why I say that, Paul, is because it's still the mental game, is it not, Paul. It's still about these two young bucks developing mentally. It's interesting because I talked to Nick Vigil today, of course, the inside linebacker the Arizona Cardinals signed and free agency. They brought him in to basically replace Jordan Hicks. Nick Vigil was telling me this defense, Polly is more difficult than most. He thought that was

a good thing. It's more difficult and more complex, more involved than most. But he thought that was a good thing right there. And that's why it's so important when we talk about the development of Zaven Collins and Isaiah simmons Man. You're talking about the development between the years and you're talking about a linebacker who just played for Mike Zimmer. Yes, right, yes, think about that. So and well, if we know this from Hassan Reddick, the failed experiment

that was insidebacker. Now, look, he was making a transition fm edge and insidebacker. But for all the athleticism that Hassan Reddick had. Yeah, if you're a half step slow in reacting, or you take a half step the wrong way, a false step, yes you're done. Yep. And so that is going to be the big key for Zavin Collins, not to mension. He's going to be responsible not just for calling the defense and communicating, but all the checks you make in response to what the offense is getting into.

I remember vividly last year Vans Joseph talking about how there were times where there would be three different checks from the time that the Cardinal's defense would break the huddle. Right, yes, Paul. And it's one of the reasons why I know you remember our conversations about this, one of the reasons why I really wasn't looking at Zaven Collins as a guy that was going to go out and become Rookie of the Year because he was in a maybe the toughest

position you could possibly be. Mike linebacker, the green dot. Hey, come on in from college and suddenly you're going to be able to master the NFL game, make all the checks and all the calls, of course, and the checks to the checks. Paul. It is a monumental a monumental hill for a young rookie to climb. But Paul, I want to say this quickly. I do believe the efficiency of the Arizona Cardinal's defense. Just how good the defense is going to be hinges on the development of Isaiah

Simmons and Zaven Collins, those two guys. Paul, Absolutely, it is a big preseason. Normally you completely dismiss the preseason. And I know teams are gonna be running vanilla schemes. I get it in August, but but he's got to at least gain some confidence in August and then go from there. Here's boom er bust. Yeah, good or bad, great or terrible. They're gonna be the football folk room of that defense in twenty twenty two. He's gonna learn, especially Zamon Collins is gonna learn on the job in

September and October. There's no doubt about it. And we'll see because as Vanculists have also told the media, look, I can make the defense simplified, and I have, but it can't be so simple that it's not challenging an NFL offense. Yea, So it's gotta be that mix. Hey. Cardinal season tickets available now at easy Cardinals Dot com slash season for all the information that's easy Cardinals dot com slash season. All right, you know what, there's some

good news that we're gonna get to. And then Rondale Moore, will we see more from the young receiver that's next in the big red rage that can throw Murray in trouble, spins out of there to his left, being chased by two vikings, and launches a deep white open near side of the parties Rondelle thirty twenty fifteen ten five clipped down. The next step for him is talking to more downfield, adding to his route tree. You know it's coming in as a rookie. You know, he got de Hobb, he

got Christen Kirk, you got aj Green. So he's kind of lost in that, you know, tim about being a rookie and everything like that. But that's one of the things that men run to have this cuff about growing his routes tree. Man able to put him outside a little bit more. He can run some little routes on the outside of his his his routes tree would grow leaps and bounds. All right, shore hands who looks forward

just seeing that route tree on display. Rundale Moore, that was Sean Jefferson early in the off season, of fact, right after Super Bowl fifty six where his son Van Jefferson got a ring. And then we start talking about his receiver room and just asking about Rondale Moore coming off his rookie season. And there's the car most receivers coach, Wolf talking about how they can better utilize and get

more out of Rondale More. And you know what you talk about, like, for example, what did the Cardinals lose in a weapon on offense and a Chase Edmonds? And the first thing I think of is that Chase Edmonds would always make the first guy miss, And that's a Rondale Moore. If you can just get that ball to him in space and hopefully get it to him down field,

you realize how lethal he can be just yards after catch. Yeah, Polly, they really used him an awful lot in a horizontal fashion last year, and this was something that I was really interested in seeing Rondale Moore develop his vertical game and his vertical routes. And Polly, the coaching staff, they're all over that they know exactly what it is that Rondale Moore needs to do to take that next step. As a receiver and those are vertical routes and I

think this offseason is really going to help him. And that's what coach of Jefferson was talking about. Yeah, and then coach Kingsbury this week was asked a similar question because he met the media, rondelle More met the media, and here's what Cliff Kingsbury, the play caller, had to say. We utilize him in different ways than move this year. You know, we kind of got it to him in space and did some things and used him on some checkdowns. But he's a dynamic route runner and I think that's

what people are going to see. He's really good getting out of his cuts, good at the top of routes, and so I think people are going to see a different side of him, and I think you'll see a different rondelle More in another way as well. He shared with the media that he's done a lot of pilates that he realized Kie'd say his way all over the ballda. I'm just saying, look, he realized, Okay, he's a very serious guy, you know you're talking to and he takes

his craft seriously. And he said his big takeaway from his rookie year was. You know what's most valuable more than anything is just availability. And obviously he missed a number of games because of injury. So he's been doing anything in every thing he can to increase his flexible oldie and just getting shape so we can handle the riggers of an NFL season. Yeah, you know what, I'll

buy that from a wide receiver, Paul. But don't tell me if you're an offensive lineman, you're laying all over the ball, all right, Please don't tell me that, Paul. Let me just say this quickly. By the way, don't make me get Lorenzo Alexander in here, So just stop it, Paul. But here's the thing right now that I really get jacked up on with. Think about this eleven person at one back, one tight end and three wide receivers. Don't worry about who the back is, Paul. Don't worry about

who the tight end is going to be. In this eleven personelsa that I'm talking about. Think of DeAndre Hopkins, Markis Brown, and Rondel Moore who are team's not going to pay an awful lot of attention to. And that probably Rondel Moore, Paul, he has this could be an opportunity for Rondel Moore to have a Steve Breston like breakout season. And of course you're referring to when the Cardinals had three thousand yard receivers and Larry Fitzgerldin an

Kuon Bolden and a young Steve Breston. You're right. And then okay, well, you know it's funny because Cliff Kingsbury, you know his sense of humor. You know it well wolf from doing the Coaches Show. He deadpanned to the media.

He said, you know what, when DeAndre Hopkins gets back in week seven, I've been telling my assistance to have my back when all these weapons are cussing me out because they're not getting enough targets between de hop and Ron Dale and Hollywood and and Zach Hertz and AJ Green and James Conner, right, etc. So, but Rondell Moore was asked, Okay, you know what two twenty two and maybe hopefully I didn't give away the answer here, but

he was asked what has he been preparing for in particular? Really, just been working on myself, getting better. We're out running playbook, learning more about my teammates. I'm not here to replace anyone and be like anybody, just be myself, you know, and just go out there and play as hard as

I can and continue to build relationships. And look when you hear Sean Jefferson and he said it, and you heard a little bit of it there, but he doubled down later that interview he said, no, Rondale Moore is more than capable of being a downfield playmaker, a downfield receiver. Do you believe that Wolfer? You think he still has to prove that. Hey, listen, he's got to know. He's got to prove it, Paul. There's no denying that he's

got to prove it. But I believe this guy once he gets the coaching that he needs, especially from jeff Sean Jefferson a guy that said that's what he did in the NFL. This guy is an excellent coach. It's one of the reasons why he got promoted. Sean Jefferson is going to be pouring into Rondale Moore. Rondale Moore has the ability, Paul to run deep routes like anybody else. Hey, look at Marcus Brown. Isn't big Hollywood's not some giant receiver running down He's not yet he can run deep

routes as well as anybody in the league. Rondale Moore Man has an awesome opportunity in front of him to really really grow this season. I can't wait to see how he spots. It was also interesting to hear Cliff Kingsbury tell the media that Hollywood Brownie in particular, brings that burners speed to the outside that can really open some things up. Oh yeah, and look for everything that Christian Kirk was. He was fast, he wasn't a sub four three guy like a Hollywood Brown, but he also

was much better in the slot than outside. Correct, Yes, PAULI he was. And again I'm not Christian Kirk so happy for him and the contract that he got in the fact that he's gonna get the opportunity to be the guy. I respect him greatly, both as a man and as a player on the field. But Hollywood Brown's running a serious sub maybe a sub four four. And when I say seriously, maybe it's more like four three one four two nine somewhere in there, Paul, that's what

he's running. He runs as fast as he needs to run to get the ball. And now you're gonna you're gonna match that up with one of the best deep ball throwers according to a number of metrics, one of the best deep ball throwers in the league in Kyler Murray. By the way, you spoke today, you interviewed Nick vigil I heard some of your Mike BERKOVICI interview that recently promoted Cardinals offensive assistant former issue quarterback, and it was interesting.

It was you know, he kept it pretty close to the vest, right, but he did at one point say that running the ball is the key to winning, which just sort of reinforces maybe the takeaway this offseason and what's coming at least the first six games. Yes, Polly, yes you didn't think up on that one. Yeah, they did kind of all right. By the way, as we wrap up this edition of A Big Red Rage, a reminder single game tickets available now easy Cardinals dot com

slash tickets to secure your seats today. How about a retirement shout out times too? How about Frank Gore, who played the most games among all running backs in NFL history. Wolf, He's called it a career after two hundred forty one games Frank Gore in the NFL. Think about that all right? Now for two pins, I want you to square your job, throw your shoulders back and stand at the ready for Frank Gore. Ready one, two, thank you, and you know what,

multiply that by two. Because about Ryan Fitzpatrick fitz Magic, the guy from Gilbert, Gilbert Highland High School who once upon a time was a young Cardinals fan churing on the Cardiac Cards in nineteen ninety eight and his favorite player was KiB Jake Plummer, a guy who started games for nine different NFL teams, made over eighty million dollars in his career. He went seven. Ryan, Well, if here you go, he won seventeen seasons and never played in

a postseason game. So there you go. At age thirty nine, Ryan Fitzpatrick calls it a career. The former seventh round pick out of Huven. What a well well played, well done career. Way to go, Ryan, and a magnificent Beard as well. So congrats to both those guys. Special thanks Jim Amhondro, Cody Fincher, Devon Kannard. And this has been the Big Red Rage presented by Satan Ford in Gilbert. Where's the number one? Tyler? You've been listening to The

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