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Ep. 553 - Former Giants offensive lineman Will Hernandez signed a one-year deal with the Cardinals this week and is expected to slide into the right guard spot. Hernandez played collegiately at UTEP where current Cardinals o-line coach Sean Kugler was his head coach. The fifth-year pro sat down with Paul Calvisi to talk about what he learned from Kugler, the opportunity to play with Kyler Murray, his Mexican heritage and more. Plus, Calvisi and Ron Wolfley discuss the wide receiver position, the NFL's new overtime rules for postseason games and the reported training camp practices with the Titans this summer.

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Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, he got Jack. This is the big red Rain presented by Santanford in Gilbert. Mary's gonna score touchdown. Slam to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo, he came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm

and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts. Visit Hacy Cardinals dot com, Slash podcasts, The Rods, Rising Guard, temperatureizing, vision, flurring, rage taking over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready, It's gonna be a show and Ron will flip. It doesn't get any better than that. Hors unleash the farm. Some free advice right off the top. Polly PSA is here to warn everyone keep your head on a swivel at

all times. Tonight, of course, wow, especially tonight because it twas the night before Ron Wolflee's favorite holiday, April Fools. In fact, my understanding. Here's sources telling telling CALVISI consulting that Ron Wolfley will be taking tomorrow off just in honor of his favorite holiday. So, I mean, who knows what that whacky, crazy guy Ron Wolfley has planned this

year for a little April Fools prank. It could come at any moment, anytime over the next hour here on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. You know, even though I love where you're going on this one, Polly, I can tell you right now I wish it was something to do with April Fools. It is not. It's got a lot to do with the fact that I am walking around with a box of Kleenex in my hand. Do you know soft that is?

I mean, honestly, right now walking around some dude, I got the bag already, and now I got the Kleenex in my head. It's not a good look. Well, Ron Wolfley was doubtful for tonight show, but he's a gamer.

Here he is, He's he's on, and uh, we're all gonna have the pleasure listening to Will Hernandez don't bury the League CALVC putting the Big into Big Red Rage of the free agent signing right the og the offensive guard Will Hernandez, second guard taken in the twenty eighteen draft behind Quenton Nelson, So we will get into all

that we'll hear from Will Hernandez. I know that's gonna be intriguing for you, but think about well, first off, can I just tell you what my suggestion was for the Arizona Cardinals social media team for April Fools in terms of a prank. Thanks for asking. No, wait a minute, seriously, you did this, you actually Okay? I gave him a

suggestion to hear it. Okay. What the team needs to do is Chris Rock an official Arizona Cardinals game warn helmet, and with the helmet send him a card that reads, you know what you need this more than we need this. Please please wear this in good faith because you never know when the game of football or the game of life might deliver you a head slap hashtag hashtag Deacon Jones. Yeah, Polly, I at firtunately I thought I did not believe it.

I still I have my questions even to this day, right now, I have my questions as to whether or not it was real. You know me, Polly, I am the grassy knoll. Okay, I don't camp out on the grassy knoll. I am the grassy knoll. Hey, maybe it was an early April Fools prank and we're all victims. Who knows who knows exactly? All I know is the NFL outlawed head slaps some forty years ago. So Hollywood and the oscars get on board. Kindly evolve your game.

My goodness, what's going Think of the last twenty four hours in April Fools. Think about Bruce Arians retiring out of nowhere? Ron Wolfly, Oh, Polly, that is weird, right, there be a you know what? Honestly kicked him upstairs, Paul. I wonder how Bat's gonna go. He looked pretty good. Did you see BA at his best conference today? He looked really good too. He did. Think about the last decade for Bruce Arians right, Think about his introductory press

conference is Arizona Cardinals head coach? He said, I'm sixty and sexy baby, And then think about the last ten years and everything that's evolved for a guy who never probably would have seen a head coaching gig in the NFL if not for Chuck Bagano. Yeah, and the fact that he was an interim head coach and NFL Coach of the Year. Bobby Wagner signs with the Rams five years, fifty million worth up to sixty five. I got to see some of the details and guaranteed cash on that

ron Wolf. Yeah, there's a couple of things. First of all, I don't want to think of ba saying I'm sixty and sexy. I don't want to think about that whatsoever. Okay, that's number one. Number two, Bobby Wagner better play a lot better than how he played up there in Seattle all last year. And this is my fear, honestly, is that he will. Because now all of a sudden, you've got a guy that's been around for a long time, a guy that has been around for a decade, who's

headed for the Hall of Fame. In my opinion, one of the best MYC linebackers to ever play the game. Suddenly was turning down gaps, shall we say, last year, turning down tackles as well, was not sticking his face into the fan. Is this my assessment, No, it wasn't. It was assessment coming from analysts that actually worked for the Seattle Seahawks. But now a change of scenery might do him an awful lot of good. Paul, Yeah, maybe he just got sick of that terrible last place defense.

He still had one hundred and seventy tackles and he missed two games. So maybe he just got sick of being the only guy. Honestly, I mean, you know, and you're right, Wolf, if he regains his form, think about the Rams defense, a Ram tough defense with an all Pro caliber player at every level of that defense. Aaron Donald, now, Bobby Wagner, Jalen ramsay obviously so and I mean, here you go, here's a sports quiz. Can you name because

the Cardinals played the Rams? The Cardinals play the Rams three times last year and I couldn't name their two starting inside linebackers. Can you No, Polly, I can't right now. But you know what, I'm sick if I if I was on if I was on point right now, I'd be great. All right. It was Troy Reader and Ernie Jones the Rock, So there you go. Those were the guys. So hence they go after Bobby Wagner. Okay, we get that,

all right? Uh, you know, more stuff flying around this week at the owners meetings, where by the way, speaking of Chris Rock, I still say that thirty one owners wanted to treat Jimmy has them like Will Smith treated Chris Rock for two hundred and thirty million guarantee. Just go over and give Jimmy has them the bronze owner ahead slap. We're just going to hear this all the time. Is this Is this going to be your punchline for everything tonight? Is that what you're telling one? Right now?

I'll sease and desist. Since since you're a little irritable, you're a little irritable, I'll cease and desist. I can tell you're under the weather. In fact, you know what, Will Smith slapping Chris Rock? Paul, we get it. Here's a good thing you didn't slap the Rock, or else he would have been dead. Mean now, look, Cliff Kingsbury on Kyler Murray from the league meetings and I quote, we're in a good place. That's the business side of it. Asked about the contract. Obviously I stay out of his

things for the most part. But as far as our relationship, it's always been great and we see him as the long term future and I know he feels the same way. That's K two on K one. Yeah, you know what, honestly, this is I'm going to put this into the positive category. PAULI. This is what I've been doing, right, Harry, everything that I've been gathering, all the information that we have out there in regard to Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals

and their relationship going forward. I'm going to take this and I'm gonna firmly put what Cliff Kingsbury said. I'm gonna put that in the positive column. I don't know how accurate it is. I just don't really care about that, because to me, that's a positive statement. Okay from Cliff Kingsbury. All right, what I want you to do. I want you to tally up your scorecards so far, if we're scoring at home, how many positives? How many negatives? I want you to tally that up. You know what, Folly,

it's it's zero. It's plus or minus zero right now. It's kind of a balancing act, if you know what I mean. Gotcha, Sea level, I get it. Okay, all right, here's Cliff Kingsbury asked about DeAndre Hopkins coming off the knee surgery and de Hop's rehab. Yeah. I expect you to be and fully back some time in a nice couple of months. And he looks great. He's been in the facility working out and so he decided, syd there

you going. The next couple of months should be full going, which which just goes to show you how ridiculous those reports were that he might have been able to play at some point in the playoffs. So the Super Bowl when he's still on crutches in January and it's still a couple of months till he's one hundred percent, although he's tracking in that direction. Yes, exactly, Polly. But once again,

this is good news right here. I I look back at de Hoop going out last year and that, man, I feel really really dumb because I didn't think it was gonna be that big of a deal. Now, listen, were they gonna miss jon right Hopkins. Yes, you're talking about one of the best wide receivers in the National

Football League. There was no doubt about it. Of course they were gonna miss d hop But to the degree in which they missed him, I had no idea, and I honestly don't think that Cliff Kingsbury and the coaching staff had that kind of understanding of it as well, Paul. And of course it brings up the question should they have missed him that much? Because it was as if someone just stomped on the Brakes and the Cardinals passing

game in their offense. And that's obviously one of the objectives and initiatives here in the off season is to improve that wide receiver room. And Cliff Kingsbury was asked, all right, look, how is this going to shake out on your wide receiver depth chart? I'm excited to see you know, Rondels, that kid we drafted last year, really

a supposed to player. We didn't even plan him as much as we probably shouldn't have because we had so much step had the position to start, but he's the guy who's really going to step out DeAndre and then we'll see, you know what other editions to make. But those two guys can really's idea? Yeah, is there a wide receiver too in free agency? Still on the radar waiting for the price to come down on a Jarvis Landry or Julio Jones or maybe there's something that works

at some point with aj Green. What is your expectation at this point, because other than quarterback, that's probably the next question that everyone wants to know. Where are they going to get a couple of receivers? Yeah, No, you're right about that. Polly Um. First of all, let me just say this, I'm really really hopeful that rondel Moore

can be that guy. Polly, do you remember our conversation with Sean Jefferson, Oh yeah, oh yeah, and Sean Jefferson saying about rondel Moore, there's a lot more to his route tree, there's a lot more to his game. He's gonna be down fueled a lot more if they were gonna work with him exclusion. When that I don't want to say exclusively that we're gonna work with him an awful lot. In regard to running the eight route, which is a post, the nine route, which is a go,

the seven route, which is a corner route. These are vertical route getting down the field, Polly, when we were talking about rondel Moore and the impact he could possibly have on this offense, we knew that they were going to use him horizontally. But if you remember, Polly, I said, man, they've got to get him vertical. He's got to be a vertical threat. And once that actually happens for this offense, they're going to be in a really, really good place.

Because that's exactly what DeAndre Hopkins had in Houston with the Texans, he had two guys that were run by guys, and will Fuller was one of those guys. And will Fuller, I understand he got busted for peeds last year in twenty twenty one. I also understand he had a personal situation he had to clean up. I understand he broke his finger as well. But that guy's running a four

to three and can still take the top off. I know he's been hurt a lot of his career, but man, if there's a way you can get will Fuller in here on a very very cheap contract, a veterans minimum contract, bring him in on a proved contract. Man. I like that, Paul. You know what, Wolf a rare instance where we agree. You know, in fact, I'm gonna have Darren Herban call you because the europe has been all over me for being on the will Fuller train. There's nobody who needs

a one year prove it deal like Will Fuller. With DeAndre Hopkins and JJ Watt, get JJ Watt to start the campaign and the recruiting pitch to will Fuller. I'm with you on that one. Absolutely, a one year deal at low cost. What do you have to lose at this stage. Let's hope bron Dale Moore does evolve into that guy that can get vertical. That'd be great, but man will Fuller on a cheap deal. Sign him up. Hey join the Airs on a Cardinal season ticket priority

list for the twenty twenty two season. How about the opponents at home? Not only the NSCUS. You have the Bucks and Tom Brady, the Saints, Patrick Mall Holmes and the Chiefs, the Chargers, Justin Herbert, the Patriots, the Eagles a play off team, good easy Cardinals dot com slash priority list. Will Hernandez next on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Hurry and the gun takes the shotguns and the stand looks down. Backs up,

goes office back book. One handed catch Connor over in the middle of the ten, inside the ten and down in the five yard line for an eighteen yard game. What a grahabb He does it in back to back weeks with one handed catchet go go, cadget staff the peg and they run Connor up the middle. He's stuffed, but he breaks a tackle. He gets into the end zone for a touchdown. James Connor continues to be one of the best free agent signings maybe ever for the Cardinals.

They're gonna go wildcat Jonathan Ward in the backfield with Connor who takes the snap. Connor runs left, He's down to the five. It keeps defeat moving James Connor is into the end zone for the touchdown. Well, we haven't met an old lineman yet, have we Who doesn't like to come off the ball right and play what the old line likes to call the pound game. If I got that right, Paul Pencilnack here is the last guy

you should really comment an old line play. So that's why we bring in our very special guests, the newest Arizona Cardinal, a starting guard may I surmise, and Will her Nandez, who was putting the big into the big red rage tonight. Will, how are we doing over there? Yeah? I'm doing great, man. I appreciate you guys having me. What give us some first impressions. You're familiar with Arizona

to a certain degree, aren't you. I am I am I actually born and raised in Las Vegas, Nevada, and I came out to Phoenix all the time as a kid growing up, all the way up until my high school years and at one point two, I had some family that lived out here, so I would come out here and visit them. And I love it out here. I feel like I'm a part of it somehow, some way, even though I wasn't born born here, I feel like it's it's a part of me. I grew up here,

and I'm excited as hell to be out here. Just the Southwest has to feel like home, right, I mean, you go from Vegas to Utah, time in Arizona then the Big Apple, I mean that must have been a culture shock as a young guy O New York City, right, definitely was. Yeah, in New York City, there's a there's no city like it. It was crazy, It's it's own thing, unique and uh but definitely enjoyed my time. Yeah all right, So did you see this coming? Was this? To what degree?

Was this on your radar when the all season started in Arizona, Cardinal? I mean, obviously as soon as our season ended, uh mine started mine started moving. Where am I going to be? Where to? Where can I play? You know this and that? And uh, Arizona I was a very strong place that a place that I really wanted to play. Um, as soon as the season ended. I mean obviously one because of Coach Coogler. Two, I you know, sort of grew up here, and uh and three I've just you know, I've always wanted to be

a part of it. First off, you're a connection with coach Googler. Explained to everyone, how far back you guys go. Yeah, so, Coach Coogler was the one who got me out of high school to Utah. He was the head coach at UTEP, he was a head when he played college, got me over there. I spent four years with him there, and to be honest with you, he's the reason why I even made it to the NFL in the first place. Coach the hell out of me and taught me a lot.

And um, yeah, wow that's saying something. Yeah. Really you attribute your status as an NFL player to Sean Coogler, sir, I mean him a big part of it. There was obviously my offensive line coach you know, Special Left, which a lot of people that also helped out. But no Coach Coogler. You know, he he knew what it took. You know, he's been in the NFL for a while. He knew what it took. He he saw something in me, and he made sure it got developed and brought out

to the max. Cardinals new offensive lineman, guard Will Hernandez is our guest on the Big Red Rage. All right, so give us a quick scattering report. What what can Cardinals fans expect? What do you do well as an old lineman? Well, first of all, I'm I'm one of those guys that comes out and gives everything he has all the time. You know, whether it's practice, whether it's you know, whatever it is, whether it's a warm up, a workout in the cafeteria, I'm always gonna give you

everything I got. You know, I have the mentality of hating to lose, loving to win. I want to come out and not only play for myself, player for the guys next to me. I love football and appreciate it as a sport because it's like the ultimate team sport. And when you have guys that want to grind just as hard as you and want to play for each other like, that's when it gets fun and that's what I want to be a part of. And that's what I bring to the table. You started at right guard

last year, correct, Yeah. The previous three years you were a left guard. Yes, So is that a big deal to you which side of the line you play? Not really the big deal if you really think about it. I mean, even though there's a lot of differences, it's what maybe two three feet difference the way I see it, you know, you're moving three feet to the right, same game,

same field. You know. I knew that at some point I would have to be exable, you know, and I would have to you know, move around a little bit here or there, and uh, not a big deal, uh either either way. At the end of the day, I just want to be out there. I want to play

and no matter where I'm at. What do you anticipate in terms of your role as a guard, meaning when it comes to Sean Coogler as a run game coordinator Cliff Kingsbury this offense, do you figure you'll be required to get out in space, be athletic poll, etc. Yeah. I mean, you know, you gotta be able to, you know,

do everything. But um, you know from the small glimpses that I've seen um with the Cardinals, Yeah, I mean, you gotta be able to pull, you gotta be able to run blog, you gotta be able to be agile on your feet and pass block, you know, and um, I know everything is going to be expected out of me, and uh yeah, I mean it's not really I'm gonna I'm gonna pick and choose what I gotta do. I'm just gonna listen to what's needed, what they need out

of me, and that's what they're gonna get. How many offensive line coaches did you have in four years with the Giants? I had four? Four. It's got to be a challenge. I mean we talk about quarterbacks have come through here. I think it was Blaine Gabbert came through and in seven years he had had seven different offensive coordinators. I mean, that's got to be a challenge. Four old line coaches in four years. Yeah, you know, it's not ideal, but you know, at the end of the day, it's

part of the business. It's it's kind of how the you know, the cookie crumbles and sometimes you know, the cookie's good, sometimes the cookie's bad, you know, but it's all good. Um well, I can understand though, that your desire maybe to reunite with Sean Coogler. So what do you think he does for you specifically? I mean, first of all, you know, we we have that strong connection, you know, that respect towards each other. I want to play hard for him, I want to do good for him.

I want to make him look good. And I know he cares about me as a player, as a you know, he wants the best for me, you know. So we have that. And then besides that connection, you know, the guy knows exactly what he's doing. You know, he's very good at what he does. And I'm not the only one that thinks though, so um, just that alone, I think when you have a strong connection like that and you respect one another and you know you you know what the guy can do, it just brings out the

best in you. We're gonna bring out the best in each other. And that's what really gets me excited because you know, as he's bringing the best out of me and I'm bringing the best out of him, it's only gonna help help the team. And uh, you know that's what gets me going. Will Hernandez our guests on the Big Red Rage It's all about You sponsored by santan Ford.

So you know what's interesting about that you come out of college and according to Pro Football Focus and don't get Justin Pugh started on the PF grades for offensive line and okay, let's go off into like a ten minute ran. Okay, but but your PF grades were the best as a rookie of your NFL career. Could that be a correlation to coming off all that time with Sean Coogler and entering the league. Well, I'm gonna start

off and uh, I'm with Justin on this one. But besides that, um yeah, I definitely think there is correlation there. And you know, I never got into how the whole system works and all that, but um yeah, I mean I guess it makes sense, you know, and and and not only that, not only looking at the BFF grades, but how I felt playing, how I looked at my

cell phone film. You know, there was a lot of Coogler on the tape, um, as you could say, and uh yeah, and as you know, as the years went by and stuff, you know, uh Coogler thing was always there, but you know it wasn't as repetitive and you didn't see it every day as I did when I was back at Utah. So um, but yeah, definitely some correlation there. How different will it be blocking for a really athletic quarterback like Kyler Murray versus a traditional drop back quarterback

in Danny Dimes. Oh, you know, you gotta be ready to move your feet and not just move your feet, but move them a lot longer and uh a lot more time. But either way, it's uh, it's all good. Um, I'm excited about it. Um. You know, I had a couple of quarterbacks you know, nowhere near Kyler's level, but guys that were like like to run around and you know, we're very mobile and fast and you know, like to

make plays on with their feet. So I mean, it's not the first time I'm going to see this or be around it, but you know, I'm definitely excited to be able to block for a quarterback like that new Cardinals offensive linean Will Hernandez our guests. Not the first time you're going to be around Marcus Golden as well, right, didn't you guy? You guys share a locker or well, I mean, you guys are locker mates in New York

for a while. That's my boy, Yes, sir, you know, we had a chance to be locker buddies for a little while and I got to know him very well, and throughout that time he gave me a lot of a lot of not only on the field advice, but off the field advice and talk to me not only as a player, but as a person. And I think that's just one thing that he does very well. And I think a lot of guys can attest to this.

He connect with you on a deeper level, and not not because he feels like he has to or because of the number of years he's been in the league, but because this is like who he is, Like he's just one of those souls that cares for others. And you know, he does well and what he does and wants to everybody else, it wants to bring everybody else up with him, mister energy. As he ever had a bad day, Marcus Gold, And I always asked this question as Marcus Gold never had a bad day, No bad days,

no bad days with Marcus Gold. All Right, So I'm told that you're the tour guy to Mexico City, that Cardinals are going to Mexico City this year, that you're the guy tell us about your connection. Oh yeah, I'll be translating and everything. Yeah. So my parents are from Mexico City, born and raised. You know, I'm Mexican. My whole family is, and my whole dad's side of the family actually still lives in Mexico. He has about five brothers, one sister and they're all there with all their families.

So I have a lot of family back in Mexico City. And when I found out that Cardinals were playing in Mexico City this year, I was pumped and so was my family. Yeah, this is something there's a huge deal to us, not only on the field, but off the field, and very near and dear to my heart that I'm gonna even have that chance to go play in front of them. Yeah, that's gonna be meaningful for you. Right a Stadio Azteca, right, one hundred thousand plus people in

that stadium. That's gonna be a big deal. That'll be a memorable road trip in your career. Huge deal herege deal. I'm very excited about it. How do you say pancake block in Spanish? Um? And I think this would be a better question for Contu, But I got you. I'm gonna do my best. You know, in my household, we used to call him hoot cakes hot cakes. We just

call him hoodcake. There you go, there you go. You know what we will defer to Rolando count on that you're familiar with Rolando then, right, Yeah, the first Mexican born position player in NFL history and former Cardinals offensive lineman. You're familiar with that, very familiar with him, um coming out my rookie year. I mean yeah, coming out in my first year in the league. He um interviewed me a few times, and we also talked a lot off the field and on social media. So yeah, I got

to know him very well. You know, he's awesome. He's been keeping up with me ever since I came into the league. So yeah, we have a good relationship and awesome guy. That's great. That's great. Well, you're the second guard drafted in the twenty eighteen draft behind Quenton Nelson. Correct, Yeah, okay, and round two I saw your Twitter handle as at will Hernandez seventy six. So is that your number with the Cardinals? Do we know yet? We don't know yet.

I don't even know yet. I haven't even really put thought about it. We'll see if if they got you know, my number, just keep it keep it going. If not, then we'll see. But uh, yeah, we'll see what's going on with that. Well, it's been great to make the connection. We look forward to this season. Well, and so you're reuniting with Colt McCoy. Did you cross pass with Justin pu or New York or No? No, when I was, he was gone by the time I got there. So but I have been talking to him over the years.

A lot of the people that I met in New York knew him very well and linked us up. And you know, we're able to talk a little bit throughout the year. So I feel like I've known him even though I haven't been around him, you know. But yeah, well, good luck trying to get a word in edgewise in the old line room with Justin Pugh and DJ Helpers and Josh Jones. So it's gonna be a good room. Oh yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited. Thanks Will appreciator, Thank you.

There you go, Cardinals new offensive lineman, re agent signing, Will her Nandez joining us on the Big Red Rage. We continue right after this snapped A Rogers dropped back. He's in trouble, rolling left, Big Chase gets hit, launches at the middle of the field in the end zone. It is, oh my goodness, it's caught. It's caught her and touchdown. You can't be serious. A tondown for Green Bay. Oh my goodness, there are no words. It was like

a roller coaster. So it ended end of regulation. You're like, two hill, Mary's right, two hell Marry abouta what are you doing on the first round? Knocked that ball down on the second one, so like you're just so dejected and Aaron just did this. So I'm going out to

the coin toss. I'm like, please, Lord, just let us win this coin toss because we can't go into overtime one defense after he just did that, and so we got fortunately able to win the coin toss, and Ba came right over to me was like, there it is what we want to run. I was like cool, called says Buzz running Ford and I started running and like nobody's with me. I was like, that's cool. I liked it. It's us White open one of the thirty five phonies.

There he's in the morning at the fifty turns up the field of the forty five and in the morning thirty five the thirty monty F'm tunny fitz to the near side down to the mind tackle there open course of barb so Larry Fitzgerald on the other side of the field and threw it while moving on the run, and Larry Fitzgerald, the Legend, took over and did the rest. I told Wolf, I actually phoned up to the to the bonds right and over time I'm starting, I told

him listening, I'm gonna go to the left. I'm gonna break a few tacklers. I'm gonna go tackler to five. So get what you're gonna say prepared and so you so you look good, and it sound like to live on forever. And he took the advice, and Graham with it stamped the palmer rolls off. He as a pinch defense running trade head hit the ends down to shut the vest that touched down of the wind. But Cardinals

advance to the NFC Championship game. What a shovel pass, of all things and one of the craziest games ever fits on the shovel paths stores and the Cardinals winning it overtime twenty six to twenty eight. Let that breathe a little bit fitting punctuation. Calling Larry's number on a

play they'd been sitting on for two years. They run it, ran it every Friday in practice, and then finally they called it in a game after the Hail mary S Firm Aaron Rodgers gave way to the Hail Larry in overtime, and that was Fitz recounting on a past edition to the Big Red Rage Wolf, and he drilled deep into it. He gave some great insight, great personality there and describing it and uh, you know what, you and passion nailed

the call and it will live forever. You know what I love about that call most of all was Dave Pass with the stiff arm since year old, without even batting an eyelash. I mean, that is exactly who Pass is. He just nailed it, and that is the best part of the seventy five yard catching run. I'm with you. Then oh look boom, just a no stiff arm. I know, he looked like he didn't even see the guy, right, and he just stuck the arm. Go go, gadget stiff farm.

It's like Larry is one of those professional bikers guy one of those rear view mirrors hanging off his helmet, you know, and he could see the guy in his rear view and he just gave him the stiff arm right,

no doubt about it. Yeah, but that's also our intro into the new overtime rule and the coin toss because earlier this week, owners passed that coltson Eagles overtime proposal, thereby allowing for both teams to have a possession in the playoffs only, meaning if the team possessing the ball first and overtime scores a touchdown on that series, the opponent still gets a possession, whereas previously that touchdown would have ended the game. No longer, no moss, so once

a bully. Yeah, I did you want to say something else about this, Paul? Well, I don't know if I have time, because I'm I'm anticipating a seven minute rant right now from you. I will just say this, Wealth, no matter what you say, no matter how much sense you make about the game of football, the team that had won the overtime coin flip in the postseason under the current iteration of the rule, those teams were ten and two. Yeah. Okay, So it was incredibly lotsighted and

it favored the team that won the overtime coin flip. Yes, including the KCY Buffalo game. And by the way, Rich McKay, the chief of the Competition Committee, admitted to the media that yes, the outcome Mahomes against Josh Allen, and the fact that Allen didn't get the ball did influence their opinion in the room. Okay, where do I start on this one? I, oh, my goodness, win the game in regulation? First of all, I okay, you know, let me back up.

Everything I'm about to say is from a player's perspective. I can't I can't look at it through any other lens than when I used to play, and what it's all about and what it should all about. Win the game in regulation or sit out and shut up. Okay. Either either you go out there and you do it, or you did and you had sixty minutes to win the game in regulation. Okay, that's number one. Number two is this sudden death. I'm with Mike Tomlin on this one. Man.

First of all, all the coaches, not all the coaches, the majority of coaches didn't want any overtime role change. They didn't want any overtime role change. That to me is very very significant in this discussion. And keep that in mind. Sudden death was fine with me. I was great with that, and the reason being is because I believed offense, defense, and special teams all three phases, all three phases of the game of football, have a chance to go out and actually make a play, make a

play and end a game. And you know what, if this was ten years ago, twenty years ago, I'd be completely on board with that statement. But here's the thing. The NFL encourages and rewards and favors the offense. It is easier to move the football and score than ever

before in the game. So if you're rewarding and facilitating offense like you've never done before, and then you get to overtime, and let's just say you have two high powered juggernauts who are offensive oriented teams who might average forty and give up thirty five a game, and only one team touches the football. Yeah, you know what, Paul, You're right about that, and that is a blight on the game, the fact that the NFL has changed the rules of the game to a point where they favor

the offense. But I'm glad you brought that up, Paully, because now here is my solution to all of this right here. Letter. Okay, Polly, you know what home field advantage is? Home field advantage real? Is home field advantage important in the National Football League? Yes, it is. There's no doubt about it. Is it better to play a home game in the playoffs than in away game in the playoffs? I think there's no doubt about it. It should be a home field advantage. So here's what we do.

We take the coin toss out of the equation and we just say the offense for the home team gets the opportunity to possess the ball first. You keep all the rules the exact same right now as they are, and you just say we're going to eliminate the coin toss, and now the home team gets the ball first. If that is their choice, that's their selection. Now all of a sudden, you bring strategy into it. You strategize the

fourth quarter, especially if you're the away team. Now you can make decisions based on that fourth quarter and whether or not you want to go into overtime, what whether or not you respect their offense and think they're going to go right down the field on your defense and score. Now you have a chance, possibly to go ahead and eliminate the coin toss, and now you know what's going to happen, and you live with the results of that,

maybe in regulation. So now if you're the roteam and you just scored and you can kick the extra point to time our go for two to win at the end of regulation. Now there's no excuses. You know what's in store in the overtime period. If thou shalt try go for the tie, well, you're gonna have to live with those rules in overtime. That's exactly right, PAULI. And now all of a sudden, you think, oh, my goodness, you know how they've got They've got Patrick Mahomes, they've

got a high powered offense. There, we've got a better chance right now of going for two and winning the game. Now, it's not always gonna work that way. It isn't, but a home field advantage should matter, especially when you get into the postseason. Yeah, and you know what I like about that. It puts more impetus on the regular season. Anything that's strengthens the regular season, especially as they keep increasing the field in the postseason. I'm all four, I'm

on board with that. So yes, by the way, I'm just gonna throw this out there, because you know, we're both about some of these conspiracy theories. The NFL Analytics did a study and this is from their statement. We projected it an extra possession during that Bill's Chiefs game would have likely generated at least five minutes of fifty plus million viewers. I think that clinched it in that owner's room back right after this on the Big Red Rage.

You know, the people at Jack were worried to see if Wilfley was coming back today, to see if he was going to eat him out of the house at home. That Adrian, that was ja egregious of gratuitous. Wifley has really taking advantage of this whole thing. Rome. You know, you act like a Roman when in Nashville, go on down and get you some marbecue. Not only did he order the combo plate, which might as well been the family platter, he then got a side of the pulled pork. Absolutely.

I mean, this guy is a definition of a Carver's disposal. I mean he's ever doing his side. Wow, that's out of the archives. At your expense, Ron Wilfley, always entertaining. Though. That was two thousand and ten when the Cardinals foreshadowing

were Inville for joint practices against the Titans. And let's just say, as Adrian Wilson sighted there, Wolf and you know, look, as truth would have it you at that point in life, were perhaps putting the full into former fullback a little bit more than you are these days, and hence your appetite reflected that at a certain barbecue joint that you had the misfortune of being in when Adrian Wilson walked in and spotted you with basically the family platter in

front of you, especially a dumb. It had to be a dumb. He had like three percent body fat. Paul, I mean, honestly, it had to be a dub. The cheeks were a little full back then, Paul I was going almost two sixty. I was I was almost two sixty at that point in time. Man. Yeah, so listen, Jack's is a great place. We all understand that. Why wouldn't you go to Jack? Sure? I mean, you know, is that your platter? Wolf or is that a cry

for help? We didn't know, but it was good. You got your you know, you got your calories worth on that trip and Wolf. It looks like, according to NFL insider Mike Vrabel, the head coach of the Titans, the Cardinals aren't going back to Tennessee because he broke that news at the owner's meetings that there will be joint practices this year looks like the third week of the preseason.

I mean, he takes to the third week of the preseason like it's well, it's gonna be a Nashville it's gonna be against the Titans, so you better pack the Camo shorts from Cardinals camp for the road. Yeah, Polly. First of all, let me just say right now, I'll take the three meet combo play please at Jack's Okay, Yeah, twenty three bucks of pure delight, ladies and gentlemen. That's number one, number two. This is awesome, Jack. I am

so jacked up right now. What do you think of when you think of the Tennessee Titans, Paul, What do you think of? Well, obviously I think of their running back and physical Paul. Would you say yes, I mean I just think, yeah, of the style with which they play on both sides of the ball. You're right, yeah, Polly. I think they mix the old offense and the new offense very very well. I think they do it as well as anybody the National Football League. And a lot

of that has to do with King Henry. The fact that you're gonna line them up, You're gonna put Derrick Henry's feet at seven seven yards and you're gonna attack the line of scrimmage downhill. And oh, by the way, Paulie, many times you're gonna be in twelve personnel. Many times you're gonna be in two tight ends. When you do that, they blend, They get into the shotgut, They run the zone read with Ryan Tannehill. They do everything that the New Age offense does, and they blend the old very

very well. And they do a great job of not only zone schemes, but gap schemes, power schemes, down blocks by the down blocks by linemen and then pull the uncovered linemen. Right. I mean, this is the kind of offense that I love, and it's also the kind of offense that I think the Arizona Cardinals are trending toward because they've got their own Derrick Henry. His name is

James Conner. Oh look, I would never call him old, Okay, But there's a certain member of our broadcast team was a former Cardinal and a former Tennessee Titan by the name of Kyle Vandenbosch, and he was on the Red Sea Report this week and they asked him Craig Grilou for Kveb's reaction to the Cardinals going to Tennessee reporterly, according to Rabel, for these joint practices, Kyle, not only is there a lot of value of going against another

team in the preseason and practicing against them, but I love the matchup against the Titans in these preseason practices just because of who they are and how they're built in what they like to do. There's no better team at running the football in the league than the Tennessee Titans. It because of who they have at running back, you know, and also on the other side of the ball. Around here, not a lot of people know about Jeffrey Simmons. He has the power and strength of an Aaron Donald. He

is a really good interior defensive lineman. And it'll give you our offensive lineman an opportunity to get some live reps in the preseason against a guy who is physically big and strong and figure out something. Try some different things. Try different combo blocks, you know, try different wham blocks, trap blocks on a dominant you know, three technique defensive tackle. Kyle Vannibosch on the Red Sea Report this week, Ron Wilfully, you were in Tennessee this past season for Week one,

it was thirty eight to thirteen. Yes, the Arizona Cardinals jack stunted the Titans. And you're also a fan of Sunzoo, who said once upon a time, or at least he advised know your enemy right and know yourself. So if you're Mike Vrabel, you're like, you know what, I really don't feel like getting exposed in Week one. For the second year in a row, the Cardinals aren't on our schedule, So let's bring them in for some joint practices and make sure we're ready to go this year because a

year ago we definitely were not. And not only that, once again, I'm going to say that the Arizona Cardinals and the signing of Zach Ertz and the signing of Max Williams, and the signing of Justin Pew and the signing of James Connor, those guys, and bringing Will Hernandez in a brawler to play right guard, I'm just telling you right now that I think the Arizona Cardinals are trending to a much more physical offense, very similar to what the Tennessee Titans may be doing. A blending of

the old and the new. This is what I believe. Paul two tight ends is going to be important? Right now? Two tight ends is going to be base personnel going for it. Okay, Now, maybe I'm getting a little too carried away when I say base personnel, because even the Tennessee Titans don't run twelve personnel as they're base personnel, but they're in it about forty percent of the time because they run the ball and they do it in

a very physical kind of way. Paul. What better way for the Arizona Cardinals to evolve their offense than to actually go and see it up close and personal against a team that runs it better than anyone else in the league. And if you have to establish that mentality of physicality, right then just a joint practice itself, because it's so much different than practicing against a teammate, Is it not, Wolf, You've done it many times, and I

mean it's almost Ray, Paul. Right, it's a rhetorical question. You don't get that level of physicality in training camps these days, But when there's a guy opposite you who might make you look really bad in front of the decision makers. You're trying to make this team intensity naturally just built, Yes, And I can tell you that intensity is going to build and it's a good thing for Will Hernandez that Ba is not the coach here anymore.

It's okay because honestly, I think he'd be running an awful lot because the Tennessee Titans, they've done this with a couple of other teams in the past under Mike Vrabel, and they've got into brawls under Mike Vrabel. So, Paulie, I'm just saying right now, Will Hernandez is going to be a happy, happy guy that Bruce arians is not that coach of the era. We don't fight the card you know, don't fighting in practice whatsoever. And you know what,

Will is going to benefit from that. So to bring this full circle, if the Cardinals needs someone to give him a pep talk, maybe they can bring Adrian Wilson in to imitate Joey Porter like he did on that episode of The Big Red Rage twenty ten in Tennessee. He's so hard to imitate. It took me a while to get him down. I was in the mirror practicing like the last three days in the mirror practice. I mean, this guy is classic. I mean, his pregame speeches are

just I mean, they're their top nine. Can you give us something, Paul, Pretend like you're getting dressed for the game, and you know we've been to call it up. Okay, all right, I'm lacing up my all the pants on one at the time. All Right, here, here's joy. You know, everybody comes here, here's joy. All right, that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna go out here here, we're gonna shoot first ask of course it's like three. Oh. That

was good. So he's so horrid that you can't even really understand what he can still, I don't know how he simulated that horse voice like that out of nowhere, but that was a tremendous interview. I mean, Frank Caliendo, my goodness, you know that was well done. Adrian Wilson, No, that was Polly right there. That brings back memories, does it is? That was Calais, by the way, speaking of a horse voice. That was Callias who was hosting that.

By the way, Polly, it's time to come home, son, come home, so hey that way, I'm just saying that I'm to come home, all right, absolutely, And you know what, bringing jadeveon clowney, I'll take that. Uh, and or a Melvin ingram As these prices come down, you guys better signed before the draft. You know, we're on board with Will Fuller, Jarvis Landry. I mean you you want to get a lot of targets Jarvis Landry. You know, uh, figure that out come. Yeah. Hey, special thanks to Will Hernandez,

our guest. How about him talking about how when he looked at his rookie film that was his best film and then he saw a lot of Sean Coogler in that film and quote that's good stuff. Special thanks as always, Jim Amajandro, Cody Fincher. Once again, Will Hernandez. We're on Wolfley on Paul calBC. This has been the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert Number one kil You've been listening to the Big Red Rage presented by

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