Big Red Rage - Green Vows Improved Chemistry With Murray

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and have the last word. Tonight. There is zero chance that Wolf will cut off any of my brilliant takes. Paulli piskin here this evening, just like there's zero chance that Wolf will be allowed to go on some five minutes soliloquy, waxing, poetic about Devonte Wyatt or maybe twelve percent ALB zero chance or getting under center zero chance that we're gonna fail, that we're gonna fail. Yes, I'm calling my shot that we're gonna fail to put the

big into Big Red Rage tonight. Because our big time guests none other than a seven time Pro Bowl receiver by the name of AJ Green. Here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert We are Santan Ford, Paul Calvci here, Ron Wolfley there. You know what, Paul cannot wait for that once again. And because Aj Green and the ability, I know you had the opportunity to talk to him a little bit earlier in the day. But Aj Green, this is going to be a situation,

Paul where the Arizona Cardinals. It's interesting they love their free agency from a year ago so much they're doubling down on it once again. And to me, Paul, that is an admission by them that they believe the ten in two was real. Yeah. I mean they're saying it with the check book, They're saying it with the roster moves. They're saying that whatever was illen and ail in this team over the last six weeks of the season when they lost five of their final six, including the playoff

loss at the Rams. Is correctable? Is something we can do something about. That's essentially what they're saying. You're right when you hit zoom out and you look at the big picture on the big red and it'll be interesting because Aj Green, we had a chance, you know, at length to discuss a lot of these issues. He talks about Kyler Murray, he talks about his chemistry or lack thereof with Kyler Murray. He's very forthright. He's much more

honest in this setting. We had more time to deal with it than he did with the media via zoom earlier in the week. So that's straight ahead. But I mentioned the quote zero chance, and we mentioned Kyler Murray because Steve Kim and Cliff Kingsbury met the media today. As you know, Ron Wolf Lean, well, we'll just get

right to it. Ken Summers, longtime Cardinals reporter and local columnists, was the one who asked the question of the Cardinals GM, there's a lot of speculation out there in the possibility of you guys trading Kyler you can do can you rule that out? Zero chance? Do you believe it Rono. Yes, you know what I do, Bully, I do because of how definitive he said that. Now you know, once again I understand things can change and do change down the road.

But yeah, he said it so definitively, Paul, and with no follow up whatsoever. I think that was it was done on purpose by Steve Kim, and I think it points to where the Arizona Ardinals are headed on this, which means at some point in time after the draft, probably not before, but after the draft, there's going to be an extension of Kyler Murray because tis the season for smoke screens. We know what this is all about.

A lot of people correctly pointed out there were similar comments made leading up to the twenty nineteen draft about Josh Rosen when Kyler Murray was a number one pick. Now the circumstances are completely different this time around. Correct A lot of obvious reasons we don't have to get into. But and I'm with you, I do believe it. I mean, honestly,

what are the alternatives? What are the alternatives? If Kyler Murray's in your quarterback, even if you get a Mondo Draft Hall el Grande, Yeah, then what you're automatically back in QB purgatory. You're right where you've been in between Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer, and Carson Palmer and Kyler Murray. You're looking for that next guy, and there's no guarantee no matter how many picks you have, that you're gonna

find the right guy. So once again, paul I'll cotinue to talk about the fact that the Cardinals, instead of being aggressive in free agency, they decided to be aggressive in pursuing their own guys and the possibility of winning games with their own guys all over again, which tells me they think they have something. To your point, Paulie, they think they have something that is fixable, completely fixable

the way they've finished the last two seasons. And by the way, Michael Biddwell, team owner, to Ken Summers as well on the potential that there might be a Kyler Murray trade, and we're quoting Michael Biddwell quote, Yeah, that's not happening. There's just too much outside noise of people listen to. We understand that's just part of what goes on these days with social media. It's just not the case.

And your point about the timeline and We've talked about this for two three months now here on the Big Red Rage, have we not how the other six quarterbacks after year three who got their contract extensions, if you go back, every one of them was in June, July, August, or September, and Steve Kime he doubled down on that. The way we've approached it is we have free agency, we have the draft, and then you know, we'll take

a deep breath and sort of refocus. And that's the same reason that every other player that's been a third year quarterback has been done in the middle of the summer to late summer, and it's just sort of the way that the system works. But nothing has changed in terms of him being our long term and short term quarterback. Steve Kime did verify with the media that he has

spoken recently to Team Kyler about a contract. So, you know, considering the comments made and just sort of the vibe at today's press comments and then you take into account Kyler's tweets and you wonder, Wolf if there has not been some significant progress in forward momentum to getting that deal done. Well, you know what you just said up Ali right there. The reason why I think I'm going to put this in the positive column in a big,

big way. It's because of kylermur restweets. I'm sorry, hey, listen, nobody's ever going to be able to convince me the social media thing wasn't a thing, right, Oh, it was a thing. I'm just saying. He scrubbed it and suddenly, um, you know what, there was an all caps letter that was sent out as well. You know, I mean, listen, Um, I don't think we're naive or or stupid here. So once again, it was a thing, and Kyler Murray has

used it in the way that he used Twitter. I absolutely loved because he was supporting him being in Arizona Cardinal in twenty twenty two and going forward and being committed. And there were basically three tweets today from Kyler Murray and two in response. One late in the day was Ian Rappaport and he tweeted out that quote from Steve Kimes zero chance for trading Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray's response via Twitter was one hundred as in one hundred percent,

as you know. And then then there was Kyler in response to the Patrick Peterson podcast that featured Chase Edmonds and in some shade throne by Pat pe not the first time towards his former team. Kyler's response and I quote, I want to win Super Bowls with the Cardinals. A Z is home and tweet Kyler Murray. Paully. That was intentional that much we do know, right, I mean, that was an intentional act right there by Kyler Murray to

support his team. And again I'm going to put that in the positive column and expect and make make me think that a deal is going to get done, and it's going to get done after the draft. And then the third tweet was in response to Colin Cowherd, and Cowherd was on this rant and there was a graphic on his TV show that read and I quote Kyler

is harder to build a culture around. That's all it's said, right, And then and then he was comparing Kyler doing Aaron Rodgers and guys who do their own thing, and Kyler's reply via Twitter was and I quote, run whatever narratives y'all want to run, but questioning my work ethic. I'm not going for that. Stop playing with me, Colin. I

still rock with you, but come on and tweet Kyler Murray. Yeah, you know what I mean, just the fact he is engaging at what is going on and being set out there instead of the sound of silence, I think is a positive, don't you, Bully? Absolutely? I mean the fact that you know he's a the fact that he's actually acknowledging that he's part of the Cardinal's future, which to your point when he scrubbed the instagram right when there's no tracer, barely a trace of the team he played for.

So now at least you have he's commenting basically and having a future with the team, and we get it. It's a whole part of the contract process, in the back and forth and the negotiations, and there's a realization I think on Kyler's part that he has a great fit with the offense and the head coach, does he not no doubt? And then the GM, right, I mean,

and this is me, this is Steve Kyme. Listen to Steve Kiman what he had to say about having a franchise quarterback that was a decent GM when Carson Palmer was our quarterback when he retired, I wasn't very good. I am smart enough to know that Kyler Murray makes me a better GM. So he you know again, we took him with the first overall pick. We love him. The guys continue to improve. He's made us a better

football team, so we were excited about his future. How many times does Steve Kim tell us on this very show that pre Kyler Murray, every single day he would wake up and think to himself, how and where am I getting a franchise quarterback? Yes Na, that's right, Bali, I mean that is a problem right there. But to his point, Steve Kim, after how many times has he

won the NFL Executive of the Year award twice? Paul as a matter of fact, and it's laughable when you talk about Steve Kim in the way that a lot of people out there don't want Steve Kim to be the general manager for the Arizona Cardinal. I'm sorry. You know what, you built a team, a playoff team, a

playoff caliber team, not once but twice. And I realized you could say, well that was over the course of nine years and everything, Well, you know what, a lot of times you're finding a quarterback that you're going to with three four years, and Steve Kim found two different quarterbacks and built two different teams that actually went to the playoffs. And by the undeniable yes, and by the way, he doesn't that go for every single GM. I mean Jason Light before Tom Brady, the Buccaneers are on a

twelve year run of no playoff appearances. What were the Buccaneers gonna look like this year minus Tom Brady until he unretired and came back, right, Yeah, I mean Light too, sure, and he's not. Look at John Schneider up in Seattle. Look at his last six or seven draft classes or lack thereof, and then they got rid of Russell Wilson. Good luck the last place Seahawks on that one. So okay, if they're tracking and trending towards a contract extension, what

does that mean for Kyler Murray? Now that the offseason activities began officially this week, Will Cliff Kingsbury was at the press conference and he was asked that question. You know, we understand it's voluntary at this point. Um, I do expect him here at some point, but I think if you any coach, we'd all want them here a lot more than we get them. But that's part of the CBA,

and they're all professionals. In hand of their business. All right, So this week, you know, well, if it's weight room work and it's you know, some conditioning out on the field,

there's no actual football going on. But I will say and and AJ Green, we ask AJ Green about it coming up here in a matter of moments on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert that you know, if one of the keys of this offense is getting the receivers on the same page with the quarterback and developing greater chemistry in the passing game and that connection and everyone being in sync, and especially when the game's on the line, you know what. To me,

these off season activities are important when it comes to football. Yeah, and I don't I don't care if it's on air. I don't care if it's seven on seven. I don't care if it's just the offense before they can even go against the defense, Kyler throwing a receiver who's got to be in the right spot at the right time and get that precision in the passing game that matters. Yeah, I know you're absolutely right about that, Paulie, But you know, can I just also throw in the fact that I

think even strength and conditioning matters I do. I'm sorry, Listen, this is when you get a great opportunity to work out with your teammate, Paul. You get a great opportunity to get to know relationally your teammate better than you will when you actually go into the regular season. And the reason being, of course, the regular season, Paul, there's so much structure, there's so much order, there's so much stress. It's a get to now do everything now, check ABCD

all the boxes. Now. You're more split up than you are in the off season. Of course, where you don't, you don't have this rigid schedule all day. Look, Polly, I used to love it. I used to love going in and working out with my brothers, whether it was running out on the field, Paul, whether it was in the weight room thrown around. So I don't want to say that's not important, because I think that's where you

really build a lot of relationships as well. But look across the NFL, man, there's not a lot of guys that are showing up for strength and conditioning, and hey, push each other, right, I mean, guys push each other. And you have the NFL Strength Coach of the Year and Buddy Morris, So what's not to like? Right? Cut the sleeves off now, just like the Draft Weekend Country Concert presented by Zek featuring Ryan Hurd Lanco Callista Clark.

It is Saturday, April thirtieth, next weekend, Next Saturday, I'm the Great Lawn at State Farm Stadium. For tickets and information, go to Sportsman's Park AZ dot com at Sportsman's Park az dot com. A J. Green is next, and we get into some of these questions about the offense and the quarterback in chemistry, The Big Red Rage presented by Santan four in Gilbert. Let's start that off as Bruce arians at, I'm talking about that at Murray and shotgun snapped to Kyler at the town A little short set.

So I did that short set a little bit now, throwing deep fireside and is pulled in into five yard All right, hold on, I gotta grab myself a crown row here. I have a little sippet debate, little sipp at debate detas new NIPPERU finished the college, Jack Nicholson, A Jay Green just too strong, too big, too athletic. To Tracy Morgan, I want a great read by Kyler Murray to throw the ball, Say it as Morgan Freeman, What a great read by Kyler Murray to throw the ball.

You've got a scarecrow on a stick. Put it out there, let him go get it. That's exactly what A J. Green did. Can you do it as Liam Neeson? Want a great read by Kyler Murray? To throw the ball. You've got a scarecrow on a stick. Put it out there, let him go get it. That's exactly what A J.

Green did. The unmistakable Frank Caliendo the mind the voices of only one Frank Callie ido on the passpot recently as he recreated in the different voices the AJ Green forty one yard touchdown catch against the La Rams week four, and now we have the real AJ Green in studio here and the big red rage. Your reaction just to hearing all the voices recreate that call man, he's very talented. He's sounded just like them. Never heard anything that good that he's can do. Each person like that so well.

So as he's very talented guy, what's all good for you right now? Wires on him? Why year two with the Cardinals? I think if you look at my year last year, you know I had a productive year, and I feel like my second year was going to be even more productive. You know, had other offers in different places in one to me, but I made a decision that what fits me well. I didn't not divedn't have

to start over. I know what the coaches like, I know the culture here, I know what they envisioned me going to be coming into this year like I was last year. So for me, it just not all about the money. It's about still building my legacy. And I think it was the best part for me. And there's room to grow, isn't there. I mean I need two hands to count how many times last year Cliff Kingsbury told us, man, we need to get the ball to number eighteen more. Aj Green needs to get more targets.

So do you see that your role evolve being I think so. I think from last year even you know a lot of people didn't expect me to do that well in this offense. I think being another year with Cliff and Kyler and just getting that relationship more because I fell out. Like in the end, we tailed off a little bit once Kawe got hurt and coming back things were a little off, and then de Hop got hurt. So I hope in this year we can jail throughout the whole season. How much did the Cardinals offense leave

out there in the last two months. I think we left a lot, you know, just looking back, even going back and this reflecting on the season and watching some of the games that we missed. You know, me personally, I didn't finish this season where I wanted to finish, and I got to be better on that. How do you diagnose it? I mean, until you can correct a problem, you got to identify it, right. I think it's just a lot of communication with us, you know, being this

lead for so long. These NFL seasons is up and down, and we started so hot. I think the leadership of our team, you know, tailed off a little bit. I think we just had to mess ups, you know, injury whell that's not an excuse. But I think next year now, I mean this year is coming up, we just gotta be more honing on our details. What does d Hop do for you and what do you do for d Hop?

I think d Hop, you know, he demand's attention and I think that's where helps everybody else this offense jail when he's going, you know, last year we had see Kirk and I and then d hop defense couldn't really key on one person. And when that happened, See Kirk had a good game while I have a good game. So having him out there just changed the whole dynamic

of the game. The fact you're both South Carolina guys too, do you do you have an is that next level in terms of connection and the where you guys just sort of interact and get along. I think this is our personality. We both want to win. We don't care about the balls. We've already been that guy catching a lot of balls. We just want to win and try to get a ring. I think that's what helps us out in that room when we had a great room.

Wanted a part of the best rooms I've been a part of last year when we had those guys, man, And I'm excited to get back with you know, Sean, Jay and Claire and get this thing rolling. And I know you guys we're on board with aj Green here on the big Red Rage. I mean, you're so competitive. You guys are perfectionists. You're demanding yourselves. How about you and your game? Where would you like to get better? You mentioned three times you led the team and catches

five times and receiving yards. You tied with a See Kirk for most twenty five yard catches, you know, et cetera. I mean, there's a lot of great but if you're going to strive to improve upon last year, where and how for you? For me, it's just more of my attention to details, just being on Kiwa Kyla at all times, communicating with him, and I think that's for me, that's what I got to do better. It's communicating one k one, just not let it be somebody else, communicain what I'm

saying to him. It's being me face to face to him and telling me what he's seeing, what I need to do, you know, just things like that, because if you listen to fans a lot of times, to say, man, it just seemed at times that Kyler and AJ weren't quite on the same page. Fair unfair, that's fair. That's one hundred percent fair. And I felt the same way. So that's what me got to be accountable, going to him and telling what I see and what he needs me to do better. I can take it like, AJ,

you need to run this rod at this deep. You need to do this. You know it's no big I'm not I'm not bigger than the team. Man. I need him to communicate with me and I'll do the same. Where do you think in terms of Kyler in his upside and it just as a quarterback, What do you see in the future for him? Man? He's an MPP caliber guy. Man. I think the jury threw him off a little bit. But if you look at the first couple of games, man, he's playing at the AMPVG level.

And for me, it just got to continue helping him, bringing him along. And I mean, he's not a guy that's gonna be in your face, but we got to make him be in his face because this is his team and we go as he go. What does it mean for receiver when he's extending plays. I forget which defensive coordinator was. They showed video like he extended to play thirteen seconds and then completed a pass. But what does it mean for you guys in the receiver room. Oh? Man,

it's another part of the offense. There's another part of the offense that a lot of defense is not. You can't account for. You see a guy just running around making guys miss, and then all the ross all broke off, so as his back a football and I had to get used to that. I wasn't used to that. You know, I played with Andy Dotan ten years, so he was just on the time, but playing with k one place never did so I gotta stay alive. AJ Green our guest on the Big Red Rage It's All About You,

presented by Santan Ford. James Connor. Your reaction when the Cardinals resigned James Connery. You're nodding right now, aren't you? Yeah? Why why is that? What does he do for this offense? And just the vibe on the sideline. I've been seeing j C since Pittsburgh day, so I understand what he could do. But watching him, his energy he brings to the locker room is unmatched. He's the same guy every day. And I'm so happy that he signed back here. Man.

He deserves it. Man, he had an unbelievable season. If you see that guy work like he need more money. He need way more money. He need more money in that, but just to have him back, and he made him to him the pro bow, his whole story. You're rutheful guys like that, and James is unbelievable guy. Physicality, his mentality. You bring him Max Williams back right, he had a zach Ertz. I mean, is this offense trending in a certain direction, because when you guys were at your best,

you were a physical offense, weren't you. Yes, And I think people didn't understand how physical we were if they look at us and being the mar finess. But we put on tape that we can be physical when we need to. So we got to continue this next year, and I'm glad we got got most out pieces back so we can make a run out of this thing again,

including Rondale Moore going into year two. Seawan Jefferson, your receivers coach, sat in that very chair, and he talked about Rondale Moore and what's in store for him in year two. What do you see? Because he talked about getting the ball to him down field, more, expanding the route tree, and he talked about how capable Rondale Moore is. Oh, he's very capable. I think people get lost in what

he did last year and how he was used. But if you go look at his college tape, the guy has great hands, great routes, great run, apt to to catch. So I feel like he's gonna make a huge leap from last year to this year. It's gonna be It's gonna be special as a guy that works his butt off as well. A lot of the mock drafts have the Cardinals going receiver in round one, if not then in round two when a young receiver comes in, what

do you look for? I mean, guys like me, I can see the measurables, you know, maybe some of the production. What do you look for when you see your young receiver? I think this that competitiveness. You know, you think you made it. My mentality was always there that you got to revenge yourself. And I think when you see young guys like that, when you see Rondelle and how he approached stuff last year, that's what I'm looking for. That's

what I'm looking for. A guy that's put his head down, don't talk that much, just go to work every day. So you had other offers, huh, you had other offers out you thought about it, I agent, and it was you know, you know how left free agency healing works. I'm at a place in my career where I'm comfortable. I'm comfortable and I can take my time. I have the ability to take my time. But I felt like

this was the right place from him. And I'll tell you, we're all grateful that the place for you is Arizona. So congratulations on that. Thank you. We look forward this year kJ Green on a Big Red Rage. We continue right after this corner number. Let go and Jeff Clatney like a shot shot, see him down, get him to me. It's a freebee. We got an extra first round pick, you know, basically in free agency. Incredibly quick footed, highly

instinctive player. It's a reason again he went in the first round and we're getting a you know, a starter in our building with and we didn't you know, waste any draft capital basically, so um, he helps us out. Immediately excited to have him, and he's gonna help big time again. I'll take him that next up. Director of Player Personnel, Drew Grigson. Last week here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, we are santan Ford and that was the word that stood out

about Jeff Gladney. Starter. I mean, we heard Paul Allen and the Vikings radio you heard him all miked up. Jeff Gladney is rookie year he sat out last year, so this will be year number three the former first round pick. You're a little bit of a scouter, report Putt. When you hear Drew Grigson use the word starter, you realize that they're counting on Jeff Gladney to make an

impact immediately. Ron Wilton, Yeah, now you're right about that, Paully, And the other thing you've got to remember, of course, for the most part, I think most teams and most defensive coordinators and general managers think you got to have three starters at the corner position because how much Polly that you see teams going with eleven personnel, one back, one tight end, three wide receivers, And because of that, they pretty much feel like that nickel corner is a

starter as well, and anytime they have the ability to move Byron Murphy around. Right, So let's say Gladney can in these only five ten you know they say, okay, plays bigger. He does he have the ability to match up against outside guys. But if he is that guys, we know Vans Joseph likes Byron Murphy to use him quite often and certain matchups inside, does he not? Yeah, there's no doubt Paula. I don't consider a corner that is five ten to be small. I'm sorry, I don't.

And obviously there are teams out there that feel exactly the same way, because they draft a lot of guys who are five ten five eleven six foot tall right in that range. In terms of playing corner, I don't

think he's necessarily small for the position. I think if you want to start talking about being under five ten, I get that, But I can't tell you how many guys I've seen, how many corners I've seen that are five ten, five ten and a half and almost two hundred pounds one hundred ninety five pounds who are stocky

and play the position just fine. Yeah, well, all right, speaking of positions, the question is Steve Khme at his annual draft press conference pre draft presser, was all right, positions of need, what do you think do the GM Steve Kahn would acknowledge that, you know, edge rusher, wide receiver, corner, you know, any of those positions that are you know,

they're hard to find. I mean, listen, when guys get the free agency and they get paid the kind of money they get, you know you're looking at left tackles, corners, you know, guys that are really hard to find. Obviously quarterbacks. Now receivers are playing into that a little bit. Obviously, you know when you see some of the salaries that these guys are getting into the receiver position. If you can get a number one receiver, there's no reason not

to take one, and there's no doubt about that. I think the status there's eight receivers now making eighteen million or more per season in the NFL. It is absolutely rocketed. We know what Christian Kirk has gone to the salary structure for NFL receivers around the league. But when I hear him site positions Wolf, because we know how low the GMS are to actually name names and positions. So when he says edge rusher, wide receiver in corner, you know what my first thought was sitting there at that

press conference today. That means that means zeros on our Cardinals in Round one are going to draft either O line or D line. That's what that means. That was my title. It's so funny you say that, Polly, because honestly, it's that time of year right now, is that not? It is that time of year where you can't believe anything that a general manager actually says in front of

a microphone. Why in the world would a GM ever tip off anybody, in particular other gms across the league as to how he might go or how he might unfold in the draft. It's not going to happen. Why would anybody do that? They wouldn't you know? In mind what thirty years now doing this covering an NFL team. The only person I've seen get up there before the draft in front of him, Mike can actually tell the truth. It's Bruce Arius know it, Yes, it's BA. And what

did he say after the draft? He said, Well, everybody thinks I'm lying exactly, so I guess the reverse engineer and I use some reverse psychology and I told y'all where we were going, and nobody believe me. Anyway, That's exactly right. At this point in time, You've got to consider this source, don't you be a Yeah? So, Polly, I would you agree with Steve Kim in regard to positions of need? Right there he mentions the edge, of course, and slarner and wide receiver. Yeah, I think those are

positions of need. And I also will throw in defensive tackle, especially when a guy that might be a little freaky, maybe a Jordan Davis, there, maybe a DeVante. Why at, Paul, you know either one of those guys. Honestly, you've got a lot invested in Isaiah Simmons, do you not, Paul, You've got a lot invested in Zaven Collins. Do you double down right with Savan Collins the next year? Yes? I mean you got to protect these guys and try

to keep them clean. Why. Because they can run. It's one of the things that put them in the first round, one of the reasons why the Cardinals loved him. They can run, they can cover, they can run with tight ends down the seam, either one of them. They can run with running backs, they can You've got to protect those guys and let them run and let him make tackles.

I'll tell you if you want to believe anything about the mock drafts, and okay, I don't say that lightly, but there is one trend in all these mock drafts that Baltimore supposedly allegedly cannot stay away from Jordan Davis. That Jordan Davis is just a Baltimore Raven in the making. And so if they go with Jordan Davis. Wolf you might get your wish, you might get Davante Wyatt, he might fall to number twenty three and the Arizona Cardinals.

But if Steve Kine was in the trust tree and he had the lie detector on and he had to answer that question honestly, truthfully, the top three positions of need would be edge, edge, and edge. Because there's only one position group on this team right now, Ron wolf Lee where you can't go into week one and say, all right, we have legitimate starters. You can't say that at Edge you have Marcus Golden and a couple of backups. You really don't have another starting, quality caliber Edge, and

that's something that's gonna have to be addressed. Whether it's a free agency. Yeah, you know what, Paulie, You're right about that. I think they could get an edge guy. This draft is so deep if you listen to some of the experts, paul you know me. I'm not one of those draft expert guys. I really am not. And one of the reasons why is because a rookie you got to prove it to me. I can't tell you how many rookies I've seen. Oh my goodness, this guy is gonna be a pro bowler. This guy is gonna

change the dynamic of our defense. He's gonna change our offense. He's going to go. He's gonna be at all pro. I can't tell you how many times I've heard this about rookies, and yet they just couldn't play Paul, and that was a problem right there. So I don't put a ton of stock into it. I don't. But having said that, Paul, this draft is supposedly very very deep on the edge. Maybe there's a guy there at fifty five, Paul, that you're gonna be able to get at fifty five

who could be a difference maker. I mean some of those names, Nick Benito Oklahoma, Arnold Eba Katie from Penn State, Boye Mothe from Minnesota, Josh Pascal Kentucky. Maybe Drake Jackson USC didn't have a great workout so you know, or or maybe the Cardinals trade up if one of those elite pass rusher guys is within range. Because Steve Kim was asked about whether he's placed or received any calls on the trade front, Well, I've had some calls, you know, guys that just want to let me know that Hey,

we're willing to move around. And then I've done the same you know, guys that you generally talked to prior to the draft, and just let them know we're up in for business. Well you like. For example, for example, if you're thinking receiver, receiver, receiver, they're at twenty three, and then look at four the five teams in front of you. Those teams all supposedly our targeting receiver as well. The Eagles, the Saints, the Packers, the Patriots all have

a serious dire need for receivers. So when he says, oh, you know what, I've had some conversations maybe moving up four or five spots. To me, that is directly in consideration of those teams in front of him all may take receiver and leave the Cardinals holding the bag. Yeah, Polli, And once again, I don't know about you, but I've heard from some of the draft experts that there could be as many as seven wide receivers taken in the

first round. And if that in fact is the case, yeah, maybe you do want to move up because you really love somebody or you covet somebody, but there's supposedly a drop off at that position after seven or eight receivers, you're supposed to be a considerable drop off, and maybe that's one of the reasons why you would move up, Paul. Maybe maybe. I mean, you know, it's all part of why the NFL Draft is so highly rated when it comes to the TV ratings, right, I mean, it's just

it's reality TV sports, it's the original reality TV. And Steve Kim talked about Draft day and the potential for a big deal. It's a fast moving process. Probably the one thing in the draft that creates the most excitement is whenever those trade conversations start, because the level of excitement in the room sort of rises. But more than anything, whether you agree with the trade chart or the points,

more than anything, to me, it's an instinctive thing. You got to feel good about what you're doing, and as long as you trust, you got I think you're being a good position So well, which position group would you feel more comfortable target in round two? Meaning would you go edge in round one or receiver in round two or vice versa? Or are you thinking a different position

group altogether? Probably? I'm just I mean, honestly, right now, everybody, everybody that I've talked to, everybody that I've read everybody that I truly respect about this. They talk about how deep the edge is the edge, And if you're really serious about that, hey, listen, maybe you could get a wide receiver bully at number twenty three. Maybe you could get one of those wide receivers at number twenty three and still get an edge guy at number fifty five.

That to me, how do you see it? Paul? Yeah, you know, Steve Coome has never drafted a receiver in round one, and the Cardinal's recent track record with a lot of receivers in the draft not robust, to be sure. And honestly, I'm the guy who the last three years said, check the hit rate for the position group that fare the worst in round one, and it's been receiver. Yeah, but I think this is the exception to your point.

Seven receivers could go on round one and that would match the all time record, which by the way, was two thousand and four when Larry Fitzgerald was the first receiver off the board in number three. Overall, I get it. And after we's all witnessed what happened to the Cardinals offense minus d Hop last year, Yeah, that sort of reinforces the need for this team. Yeah, you know what, It's so interesting, though, what do you do? Do you

go get a guy like a Jamison Williams? Do you go get that guy who can change the dynamic of a defense because he can run by so many guys? Do you try to find a run by guy even though Jamison Williams. Don't get sidetracked with the fact that he might not he might not be able to play until like November. But I'm talking about a speed guy.

Maybe you are you going to draft a speed guy, Paul, or are you gonna draft a guy that like a Drake London from usc that could totally make a difference a great I think he's a bigger version of d Hop. I mean he catches so many contested balls, Paul, His hands are huge. I think Drake London is a guy that man, if he were there at number twenty three, well,

I don't know. You gotta start, Drooland, don't you. Are you concerned though, that Drake London won't run the forty because you know a lot of comparisons to Mike Evans, But Mike Evans went out there and ran a four or five something at his size. Yeah, and I think most people think he'd run a four or five Paul, he'd run a four or five five Drake London, Okay, I just get a little word that at his size,

will he be able to get separation? And I know how strong he is, you know, and contested catches, Oh yeah, you know, play strength. I can get it. And Trason sighted that as well. It's kind of like d Hop I mean, d Hop is not a run by guy. He just isn't. How many contested passes do you see DeAndre Hopkins patch all the time? And Drake London just like that. To address your original question, what sort of

receiver would you go out? You know a lot of receiver coaches and offensive coordinators want a receiver room that looks like a basketball team. You want one of every sort of position. Right. You want the smaller, quick guy in the slot, and you want the big guy on the outside that would be your five, right, I mean

you want the different size guys. So that being the case, you can give me Treylon Burks and hashtag who wants something and we're just going I mean absolutely And by the way, for more on everything related to the draft, you got to hit up the Dave Pash Podcast. This week's guest about NFL Network Draft analyst Extraordinary Daniel Jeremiah wherever you get your podcasts and you can follow me

a Twitter at pashpod. Will continue to talk about the Cardinals, recap what AJ Green had to say, and see flight Plan next on the Big Red Rage. You got to play your best football at the most important times of the year, and I obviously don't think that we did that. I hope it's motivation for every single guy on the team to do everything in their power to make sure that we're not in a situation like that again the back half of the season and then specifically what happened

in the playoffs. So if you can't look at that game and you can't walk out of that stadium feeling motivation and wanting to work harder and wanting to be better and wanting to do everything that you can, probably in the wrong business. J J. Water earlier this week and what Bye had asked him, I just said, was there a lesson learned from the way last season ended?

It is? So what that was his response, which just the look on his face, the manner in which he delivered that, you can sense that it's still raw with a lot of guys the way last season ended, losing five of your final six. You heard what Aj Green said earlier in this edition of The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. I asked him, how much do you think the offense left out there at the end of last season? He said a lot, he said. I gotta be better, he said, I said, why do

you diagnose the problem? And Aj Green was pretty fourth right. He said, quote, you know, the leadership of the team tailed awful little bit. We got to hone in on the details. Yeah, so you're just hopeful that they tried to figure out that they have successfully figured out and deciphered what went wrong at the end of the season for a second straight season, and if they have. Going full circle here, it gets back to your point. Wolf. Now you see the rhyme and reason why they're bringing

back the core players. Yeah, no doubt about it. Paully. You know, once again, it's so important for people that are listening right now to understand the mentality of a football player is not that of a front runner poem. It's not. It's a guy that knows how to finish above all else, a guy that knows how to finish. A I that knows the task ad hand is never

good unless you finish and finish strong, Polly. I can't tell you how many coaches will scream out, You'll hear it on the field right all the time, finish, finish right there screaming finish. Why they're trying to get that into the head of some player out there on the field, whatever it may be, to finish strong Polly is a player. You're looking to do that individually, and you're looking to

do that collectively. And that's why the look on JJ Watt's face when you ask him that question, that's why it drooped. I'm sure because there's nothing worse for an individual, for a football player, and for a football team than not being able to finish Andy her guys take accountability. AJ Greenden today in that interview, right you know, asked him, was it fair to say you weren't always on the same page with Kyler? Murray said absolutely fair. He said I felt the same way. He said, I need to

go to him more often. I need to communicate with him more. He's not a guy who's going to get in your faces off, and I need to get in his face and make him talk to me, you know, make him tell me how I can be better. So it's interesting if that's part of the plan and then you hit zoom out and Michael Bidwell. This week, it was just released season five, episode one of Cardinals Flight Plan. This is all access behind the scenes available now in

the Cardinal's YouTube channel YouTube dot com. Slash Azy Cardinals and the team owner talking about the strategy in free agency. If you look at the last five seasons, about two thirds of the free agents that went to a different team and were paid more than ten million dollars played less than seventy five percent playtime. Many were not starters, most of them didn't go to the Pro Bowl. Just because you spend a lot of money in free agency

doesn't mean you get the greatest players out there. And frankly, when I look back at Steve's success, Steve has had great success signing players that people have sort of forgotten about a little bit after the draft. There are a lot of great players out there. Being aggressive also means being patient and taking the risk that great players are going to be out there and having the confidence we'll be able to sign them at the right time. Cardinal's

flight plan. Michael Bidwell and Steve Kime said it today. Well, if he said the disadvantage and free agency is you don't know the person. You can see the player on film, you don't know the person. It's not like the draft where you go to the combine you can interview him, you can have one of these thirty visits. You know, it's not the same that when free agency opens, you don't have that ability to get to know the person. And the immediate guy you think of most recently was

Jordan Phillips and how that did not work. No, you're right about that, Polly. You know, once again, I'm sorry, but the Cardinals were really aggressive last year in free agency. We know that last off season, and this year not so much according to other people. But again I think Polly, that is by design. I think they looked at the fact they were ten intwo and what made him ten intwo.

I go back to the five games that were played with Max Williams, with Max Williams as a tight end, and now all of a sudden, you're gonna bring zach Ertz into that as well, Paullie. You put Max Williams and zach Ertz on the field in rundown situation first and ten second and one to six. There's gonna be problems with James Connor as you're running back, and DeAndre Hopkins, and who knows on the other side. Maybe it's Rondel Moore, maybe it's Aj Green, maybe it's somebody else they go

out and get. But that could be real problems. It's undeniable. The Arizona Cardinals were seven and ozho and they were ten and two Paul and right now this free agent period so far, Steve Kim and the Arizona Cardinals said that was real, and we're gonna go out and try to replicate it again. And you know, James Connor was banged up at the end. I think you only played two full games, was zach Ertz. So you get those

two together. You had Max Williams And for example, you go through the draft and all of a sudden, or maybe right before the draft, the Cardinals signed a veteran edge rusher. Maybe they get a Jadeveon Clowney, maybe they get a Carlos Dunlap of Melvin ingram On a one year deal. Sting that John Abraham Twight Freeney type thing, and that that does change the outlook of what they've

done in free agency to a significant degree, does it not? Well, it does, especially when you look at the fact that the Cardinals were number five in sacks per attempt the year Chandler Jones didn't play but five games. He had one sack in those five games, and the Cardinals overall there were number five in sacks per a time because of scheme. By the way, the NFL schedule came out today. The NFL schedule, the full schedule come out Thursday, May twelfth,

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