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audience participation right off the top. How about a show of hands for those who are not nonconformists like Ron Wolfleck. What are you talking about? Paul? Who among us is so done with mock drafts. I'm raising my head right now, very high. Paul, raising it very high. Keep that arm high in the air. When I ask who is ready

for a real draft? Fact I might use this stick tomorrow night, right off the top of the draft party, as I'm gonna have the microphone up on stage, and I might just share with everyone that this year for Lent, I gave up scones and chocolate chip cookies. Next year, I'm most definitely giving up mock drafts. I'm just saying that right here. In fact, the NFL Network just wrapped up a one hour special featuring Daniel Jeremiah's final first

round selections and Ron Wolfley. Yeah, I think you're intrigued to know envelope please the Arizona Cardinals select George Carloftis from Perdue. Wow. Okay, well you know what's a lot of people are mocking him to the Cardinals at number twenty three. Polly, Yeah, so no doubt about it. We know two things for sure right now, it'swas the night before the NFL Draft. We know two things. One, there's as much uncertainty as any year ever, right. You hear

that over and over. And number two, we say, Jacksonville, we'll find a way to screw it up. They will screw up the number one pick. They'll take Trey Von Walker will end up overpaid and underwhelming. That will happen.

I'm just telling Actually, there's one other thing we know for sure, and that is every Wednesday before the NFL Draft, we do a very special edition of the Big Red Rage that has now become tradition, has it not, Ron wolf Lea, where we bring in the voice of the Arizona Cardinals, your cohort up there in the booth, mister Dave Pass joins us tonight on the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. Good evening, Dave, Good evening, gentlemen, how are we doing. I'm with you, guys. I'm ready

for the mob trafts to be over with. I can't wait for tomorrow. Yeah, season starts tomorrow night. Like I said, I'll be out of the draft party. So it starts at State Farm Stadium. The season is going to end at State Farm Stadium with Super Bowl fifty seven. Now, you just got to figure out the in between and when you talk about the big picture for the Big Red guys, let's just hit zoom out here for a minute. Wolf What do you think the Cardinals need to come

out of this draft with? What are the app I mean, there's wants and needs. What are the absolute muss when you come out of this draft. Yeah, you know what, Polly, Honestly, you know how I feel about rookies to begin with, guys. I mean, I just I've been jaded. I've been jaded by so many guys that we're going to come in

and there, we're gonna change the entire team. This was it that we're gonna come in there, we're gonna make the impact, that we're going to be the difference between us being five and eleven and eleven and five, and there was just one problem. They couldn't play. So I don't get too jacked up over the whole rookie thing, even though it is so exciting. There's no doubt about that. So I feel like I need to say that first Paulli. Secondly, they need a player that is going to contribute immediately.

That's what I want to say. I want to see somebody that is going to contribute in September, and when I say that, gets significant snaps in September and maybe be a starter by October. I want to see that. Well, and you know what, that's asking for quite a bit based on the last two years, because that was not the case with the Isaiah Simmons and then Zamon Collins. You know there has been a learning curve with those.

A lot of that is by position. Paulli, it's so difficult to come in and play middle linebacker in the National Football League after playing at college. Dave, what do you think, big picture? What do you hope the Cardinals come out with When you're sitting there Saturday evening and having one of your nice glasses of wine, what do

you hope you're celebrating. Well, you look at those three picks they have in the first three rounds, and I think ultimately you're looking for three st arders, and that first round pick you're hoping as a guy that makes a couple of Pro Bowls. If you're picking in the top ten, you hope that guy is a perennial Pro bowler. And if he's the number one pick or a top three pick, you're hoping he's a future Hall of Famer. You know, in terms of their first round pick from

a few years ago, he's on the right track. Kyler Murray has helped improve the team the last few years. Rookie of the Year, couple Pro Bowls. They've picked up this fifth year option and we'll see what happens this summer, whether he gets the Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes money. But you know, your most important piece for your organization, you've

got that taken care of. And so you look at the rest of the roster and it's one of the reasons guys, I don't think that they made these huge moves in the offseason so far, with the exception of resigning some of their key pieces. Is the ten and two record, to quote Ron Wolfley, was real, like you could put twenty two guys out there right now and

be a winning football team. And so in this after you're looking for guys, Okay, is there a hole that you can fill, Well, there's a whole, a wide receiver, in my opinion, there's a whole still in my opinion, on the offensive line, on the defensive line, at corner, although the Jeff Gladney signing is very very intriguing to me. So and then second and third round, you know you're you're looking at best player available, but again you're hoping

that those guys can eventually become starters. I think because you only have really those first three picks, you know, the picks in the later rounds are guys that are developmental players. You know, maybe a strike gold and you get somebody that can play and help your team. But the Cardinals are drafting from a position of strength overall because they were a playoff team last year, and it's not real obvious which direction they might go. There are

several positions. I mean, you might need more than one hand account how many positions you could easily see the Cardinals selecting in the first couple of rounds. In fact, that was the question to Steve Kim up positions of need this year. We all would acknowledge that, you know, edge rusher, wide receiver, corner, you know, any of those

positions that are you know, they're hard to find. I mean, listen, when guys get the free agency and they get paid the kind of money they get, you know, you're looking at left tackles, corners, you know, guys that are really hard to find. Obviously, quarterbacks now receivers are playing into that a little bit. Obviously. You know when you see some of the salaries that these guys are getting into the receiver position. If you can get a number one receiver,

there's no reason not to take one. Yeah, you think a tank of gas is expensive these days. Have you seen the going rate on wide receivers and edge rushers? Yeah, it is frightening. Although when he said that, and we were sitting there in the press gardens, when he's actually answered the question and name positions and need and he said edge rusher, receiver, cornerback, I said, you know what that means. That means Arizona Cardinals they're going to draft

either online or d line in the first round. That's what that means. Because he thought immediately it was subterfuge, right ball, right, there was no way we felling the true exactly guarantees they're going on line in round one. That was myer action when he when he actually said that.

But it is true. I mean, either you can go into a draft wolf and you can have every single position seemingly theoretically buttoned up with veterans right at every and then, or you can go in with enough open roster spots where you know, and the Cardinals have purposely left some of those spots open via free agency or black thereof where it's not so much of a towel. Yeah, you know, the Cardinal needs. Let's talk about that for a second, right, here. First of all, I think they

need Kyler Murray to continue to improve. That's always number one right there, continue to improve as their franchise quarterback, and I believe that's going to happen. Number two, edge, defensive tackle, wide receiver, corner. I think those four right there, I think they're going to be in a position guys where they can look at those four positions at number twenty three and say, Okay, who's the highest rated guy

we have on our board? And I'll bet you there's going to be somebody there from one of those four positions. Just a guess who's the highest rated guyer on our board, and then they'll take him at number twenty three. I think that's how they're going to operate, all right, David Gregory Wolf, I mean, yeah, I agree, Pollie, you're twenty three. It's a tough position. I think last year they knew

they wanted Davin Collins. There were a couple things, including the Patriots drafting Mac Jones in front of them that had to happen for that to work out. And this year it's a lot different. You know, are there going to be some guys that slide? Do you have a couple of players that are coming off injuries. Are they going to be there? You have a player in Andrew

Booth who is coming off an injury. You think we'll be ready for the regular season, but will eat drop maybe because some teams aren't sure about whether they want to draft somebody that they're not sure will be available for camp or Week one, and then maybe have somebody that other teams have in the late twenties or early thirties that you absolutely love and that if he's there at twenty three, you're gonna be You're gonna be so happy that he was available, and you can make that thick.

So I think that ultimately they're gonna take They're gonna probably have several positions of need up there that they're going to look at that board who they have there, and I have a feeling that there's going to be a player that they have ranked in the top fifteen that's going to slide to twenty three. Dave, can I say this that, and once again you're gonna agree or

disagree here. If you look at the Cardinals roster depth chart is currently constructed, they have enough starting corners now with the signing to Jeff Gladden, you mentioned that they have a starting crew of receivers right now, aj Green and Rondale Moore might not have enough depth. You know, they have an offensive line with Will Hernandez Now and Justin Pugh as your guards. And you're said, okay, but do they have a legitimate book and edge rusher to

go along with Marcus Golden? I would say no, And to me, I would say that is a glaring need for the Cardinals at this point, is edge rusher? Can I just say I agree? But at the same time, can you count on one of the top guys following you at twenty three? You know, you feel if you're reaching at twenty three with a couple of players. Is George karlotis a guy that you know I saw play in person this year, a guy that's a great story, that's a former water polo champion. Like his lower body

strength is ridiculous. He actually reminds me of a smaller version of JJ Watt. I've heard a lot of people talk about Ryan Carrigan, but he's got some Watt characteristics too. But is he a reach? You know in terms of his skill level, you know, he's not probably in the same class with some of these other guys, or are you reaching for him at twenty three rather than maybe taking somebody like a Johan Dotson who could be there. Who Yeah, you have Rondale Moore and AJ Green and

DeAndre Hopkins. But you know for sure that in terms of value what you're getting at twenty three with a player like carlottis maybe you're not. Maybe you could get him at twenty eight or maybe even in the early second round. That's just one example. But I'm with you, Polly Edge. Rusher is a glaring need. And by the way,

Dave mentioned the news on Kyla Murray. The Cardinals did officially pick up the fifth year team option on Kyler, largely a formality, so he's under contract this year and next season that twenty twenty three salary about twenty nine million guaranteed. Of course, it's this year's salary of five point five million in salary and bonuses that has been the subject of his agents hire and we'll see if that leads to the Mondo contract extension in the off season.

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NFL Draft two twenty two. And if you talk about the Cardinals, there's a lot of speculation guys that they're going to go offense, mainly because they went defense the last two years. Now. I'm not really seeing the correlation or the reasoning behind that, but that seems to be a popular opinion and if they do go offense, then most likely they're going to go oh line or receiver. Okay,

I'll buy into that. And that was the question this week to Drew Stant, former Cardinals quarterback Cardinals broadcast on The Red Sea Report with Craig Grilou, and the question from gree was, look, as a quarterback, if you were presented with top wide receiver round one pick or a top old lineman in round one, which direction would you go as the QB? And he said, immediately, I would go old lineman every time. Wolf. That's what Drew Stan said.

He said he was of the opinion you can find a quality, difference making receiver in later rounds, but it's much tougher to find that sort of offensive lineman in later rounds. Hence you've got that guy at number twenty three pulled the trigger. Yeah, Polly, listen, offensive line, it's so important right now you've got a quarterback like Kyler Murray. You've got to invest in Kyler Murray as well offensively. When you think about it, you have to protect Kyler Murray.

And I think we all would admit that having a strong pocket, especially an interior pocket, is a must for Kyler Murray because there's no doubt about it. Kyler Murray is a guy that needs to continue to develop from the pocket. You need to protect him. The best way to do that is with an offensive lineman. Now, I will say the second best way to actually do that is to get a wide receiver that gets open, gets opened quickly, and suddenly goes through progression and the ball

comes out. So having a wide receiver that knows how to win, that's really really important. But they already got that guy. It's d hop DeAndre Hopkins knows how to win and how to win quickly is short to intermediate stuff is fantastic. And you know what, Dave, to Wolf's point, the last impression we had of the Cardinals the playoff loss was ninety nine Aaron Donna just wrecking the game, just bumb rushing the Cardinals from that interior defensive line spot.

So if you're saying, you know what, the final impression is a lasting impression, we got to bolster the interior line. And you're gonna go with one of these guys Zion Johnson out of Boston College or you know, Kenyan Green right out of Texas saying, you know those two guys. I mean, that would make a lot of sense, would it not, Dave. I like both guys you mentioned Paul, and remember you've got a stud o line coach in

Sean Coogler who can help these guys develop. Here's another player that I would love if he's there, because I'm so intrigued by him. Is Tyler Linderbaum, the center from Iowa. Rodney Hudson's going to be thirty three by training camp, and yet Tyler Linderbaum is somehow there because maybe some people think he's undersized that this guy is. First of all, he played in the bowl game and knowing he was gonna be a tough first round pick, and then he got hurt in the bowl game and came back in

the fourth quarter to help his team win. Wow. This guy was a wrestler in high school who beat Tristan Worse in wrestling in high school. I love this kid now again, you know, can you plug him in? And can you play your best five? Can you figure out

how to play guard? Can Rodney Hudson play guard? I don't know, but I'm just saying that that guy's there and I probably won't be I'm taking a long, hard look but the other two players you mentioned, Paul I like both those guys, and again you've got an offensive line coach who can help develop these young guys. And I'm not giving up on Josh Jones Jess yet either. I want to see another year out of Josh Shones. Yeah,

I just want to see Josh Jones a tackle. I just don't think guard his spot, at least based on last year. But you know what's interesting about that center position is that Steve Kimes said during the press comers and once upon a time he was of the opinion that a first round draft pick should only go to a quarterback, of left tackle and edge rusher or a corner, but then he realized last year the importance of a

quality center. Yeah, and the difference Rodney Hudson made. And at Dave's point is at the end of his career, he's towards the end of his contract, he's expensive. That would make sense, would it not, Wolf, Well, it would Pauli. Yet, at the same time, do you think Rodney Hudson is going to help the Arizona Cardinals win this year? In twenty twenty two, do you think he's going to help them win and get to the playoffs. I think, yes, I don't think he's He's a guy that I look

at as a liability. He's not at that point in his career right now. So I look at him and think, Okay, where are you gonna play Tyler Linderbaum? Where are you gonna play him? You're gonna play him at guard six two under three hundred pounds. Um, I don't know about that. Guys, that's a scary proposition right there. Let wrestle when you have ninety nine in this division, I say, let him wrestle Aaron Donald to the ground. You know what I mean? Man just said him. Okay, So if not on line

in its offense, then it's got to be wide receiver. Wolf. Do you have a favorite, a guy who's realistic at number twenty, Oh, Paulie, there are There's no doubt about it. There are some guys that I hope are going to be there, and I would say that, Um, Drake London is one of those guys. I doubt that Drake London is going to fall that far. He reminds me so much. I'm sorry, but he reminds me of a bigger version of DeAndre Hopkins. Well, you watch him go about his business,

you watch him run his routes. He catches the ball in traffic as well as any other receiver in this draft. He runs good routes. He's a big target. He's a guy that I think has some sneaky speed. He's not a guy that is a four four guy or sub four four guy, but he does have some sneaky speed. Fast enough speed, as we used to call it. Jerry Rice was a guy who what he was timed running a four six forty coming out of college and yet

ran by everybody to get to the ball. I think Drake London has an awful lot of that in him. Drake London and Chris Alava, those two guys I think have the possibility of being there at twenty three, and I like him both. I don't know, it might be a little optimistic, Dave On, I know you think about that. I've even seen some recent draft mock drafts that have had Jamison Williams spawn to the Cardinals at twenty three because of the Acli Soldiery. I mean, that would be

an absolute for me. I'm with you on that, Wolf, But you know, Dave, I know you've seen a lot of these guys like, for example, most of these mocktrasts say, if there's a receiver available at twenty three, it'll be either Traylon Burks at Arkansas or Johan Dotson at a Penn State. Do you have an opinion on either guy? Give me Johan Dotson all day. Really, Traylon Burkes he might end up being a tight end. I don't know if that he fits exactly with what the Cardinals want

at that receiver position. Where John Dotson, I think there's some questions about his size and his you know, play strength, as the scouts like to say, But man, he's got some speed and he's got great hands. I'd be shocked if Drake London's there. I can't imagine him there. I'd be pretty I'd be surprised. Well if if a lobby was a lobby was there too. Dotson. There's a chance.

The Jamison Williams thing is so interesting because unless you're a team that was in the playoffs already, you're gonna take a guy that you don't know if he's going to play at all this year, and if he does, it's probably going to be a November. The Cardinals had the luxury where you can take him. The thing is the guy probably if he's healthy, is Jamar Chase. He's probably a top five pick and a pro bowler and a guy that immediately lifts your team to being a

super Bowl contender. He's that good. So if he's there, obviously a grab. I just don't think he will. But Dotson and then don't sleep on Christian Watson either. He's big, from North Dakota State, He's fast, he fits into their jet, sweet stuff wolf. I like him again. The thing that you don't know about is you know how he's going to do it, you know, playing elite competition every week. I honestly, David, I think I'd love to see them

take a guy where his floor is high, right. I mean this is something that Kyle van de Bosch has been talking about. I love the image of saying he's got to have a high floor. Forget about the ceiling and how high the ceiling might be. Get a guy at number twenty three that has a high floor. I love that imagery right there, and I think that's something they've got to look at. A guy that is a proven commodity, a guy that is a low risk pick.

There's nothing that's a guarantee. There's never gonna be a guarantee, but a low risk pick. In other words, get a guy you think is going to be a starter for ten years on your team. Yeah, and this class of receivers is considered one of the most robust in last decade plus. The question, I think what's greater the depth of quality receivers or the demand four receivers, Because my

big fear at twenty three is four. The five teams in front of you could easily go receiver Philly at eighteen New Orleans and nineteen Patriots at twenty one, Packers at twenty two. In fact, when Steve Kim said during the press confer and say, you know, we've had some offers and some conversations maybe about trading up four or five spots, I said, yep, ding because those four or five teams in front of you all receiver. So if

that's your target position, I could see that happening. Then again, it's so deep that guys, I was watching NFL Network earlier this week and you had James Jones on their NFL Network analysts, longtime NFL receiver. He said, the best receiver in the draft quote end quote is sky More out of Western Michigan, Okay. And then he went on to say that George Pickens from Georgia will be a future All Pro receiver. Now he had an injury played twenty twenty one, But Dave, I'm wondering George Pickens, who

has been liking aj Green effect. He was on the Ajan Green Family Football Scholarship while at Georgia six five, round A four four, seven forty. He's a guy who's been highly skilled, a few issues off the field. I'm wondering he might even fallen around two and be available. Perhaps, Well, James Jones works out of my gym. I'll have to bring up the fact that he also said that Kyler Murray's played his last down as a Cardinal, So I'm not sure that his information that's absolutely right. I forgot

about that. So, I mean, look at the players though you mentioned mean they're good players. I look, it just comes down to value, and at twenty three, it doesn't mean that you know, sky Moore and Pickens and even John Metchi from Alabama who's probably not a first round pick. You know, are you going to spend number twenty three on them? Or do you think that maybe you can get. I mean, the Cardinals have a history two guys of

moving up in the second round. Now, they don't have a lot of picks, but they also don't need a lot of picks. You know, they're they're a playoff team. You don't have to You're not trying to build your roster. You're trying to enhance your roster with your picks. So you know, there's always a possibility that if there's somebody their early second round that they absolutely love that they had ranked very high, that's there and it fits a need that they use a player picks future picks to

move up and get that guy. Yeah, you know what, that's the one thing. I love guys too. When you think about the positions here, I think the first two rounds we could see receiver and I think we could see edge. I think we could see either edge receiver or receiver edge. I mean, I again, they're going to take the best player available at number twenty three, but I think those two positions are are sort of deep edge definitely receiver, not as much but still pretty deep.

So I think we could see those two positions addressed in this draft. We'll see. Yeah, what Daniel Jeremiah tell Dave about the edge position. It goes twenty deep in this draft. In fact, it is episode twenty eight of the Day Pash Podcast, featuring the NFL Network Draft Analyst. So to see that or catch up on past episodes of the Pash Pod, just go to your preferred podcast provider on Twitter at Pash Pod. We continue with Day Passion on the Big Red Rage NFL Draft twenty twenty two.

Right after this, our college scouts do a phenomen little job in terms of their research and getting to know these guys. So they set the table for us so when we come in and talk to these players, we know what some of these issues are with these guys, so we can kind of probe and figure out who

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about here. Cardinals Draft twenty twenty two, The Big Red Rage presented by santanford In, Gilbert Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley in the voice of the Arizona Cardinals, Dave Pash And if you went into those war rooms, guys, there's a lot of NFL gms that according to NFL Network, they foresee a run on quarterbacks late in round one, that you know, Molik Willis and or Kenny Pickett will probably probably be off the board by the Cardinals pick at

number twenty three. But if there is an interest and availability of quarterback and the Cardinals are at twenty three, wolf, do you think the phone rings for Steve Ky and how viable is a possibility they trade out at twenty three and cash that in if you're poly, you know, I guess it's a viable proposition for them where they could possibly trade down and collects some picks depending on how much they like this draft and how it's shaping up at number twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty three.

But you know what, I don't think that's very likely that this is just me. I don't think they're going to trade the pick. I think they're going to keep the pick, be right there at number twenty three and hopefully select a guy that is actually going to make a difference and be a difference maker come in and contribute immediately in his rookie year. So if it's all about the quarterback and getting to the quarterback, then Dave,

what do you think as an edge rusher? You saw car Loftis for example, right, tell us some more about car Loftis and you know as water polo background is intriguing. They say his motor is non stop, so that's obviously a plus. Yeah, I mean, for you know, he won some games for them this year and people have made the Ryan Carrigan connection. Ryan Carrigan was I'm not mistaken the second overall pick in the draft, so I don't know that that's fair. And obviously JJ Watt was I

think he was eleven. Karloftus I mentioned feels like a little bit smaller version of JJ Watt to me, I'm just not sure at twenty three that he provides the value. I think a lot depends on you know, is David a Jabo gone? Like, how do you feel about him? Do you think that it's worth taking a guy that can't contribute this year? Or you know, Jermaine Johnson probably isn't there, He's probably going to be. I think what's going to be interesting. Two things are interesting to me

the quarterbacks. Does Malik Willis get picked high or does he slide? I think Kenny Pickett's going to be a first round pick. Question is is he go to Carolina or does he go to Pittsburgh meaning earlier late? What if Willis slides and you know he's not taken until the second round. The other thing is Cavan Thibadeau. You know, is he going to be a top five pick or

does he slide? And if he slides, what does that mean for or somebody liked your main Johnson, what about boy A Maffe, a guy from Minnesota who a lot of people have as a late first round pick. There's gonna be an edge rusher there at twenty three. The question is do you think from a value standpoint, based

on your board, that it's worth taken him there? To your point, Paul, what if Malik Willis isn't drafted and somebody calls the Cardinals, we're going to take this kid, and we'll give you an extra third round pick and maybe this team's pick in twenty seven to twenty eight, and you feel like, you know what, we can get somebody twenty seven twenty eight that we had in our top twenty on our board and pick up an additional pick. I think the Cardinals would look at that and you

know what. That happened twenty fourteen, did it not? Where the Cardinals had some of their guys taken off the board. Steve Kimes shared as much with the media. They traded out at number twenty down to twenty seven. They netted a third round pick, which became John Brown. So that has been done before. I think it's a distinct possibility

this year. That's just my gut feeling. Our producer Jim Almohundro has tasked you guys with actually naming a name, making a pick so wolf, you know, even all over you know Davante Wyatt for months now, I mean, are you sticking with that? Have you had some you know, have you done some more research? As a matter of fact, I have, thank you very much. Over the last week. I think there were some stories that started to come down, right,

there's no doubt about that. Stories that came down about Davante Wyatt that I think, UM would probably take him off a lot of draft boards. Having said that, UM, it's interesting the cut that we played coming in here, there were people talking. Q was talking about people that I think are just like DeVante Wyatt. A guy that's okay, he's a little rough around the edges, a guy that may have some question marks, but a guy that maybe

it might take a flyer on again. I think it precludes him from being taken by the Arizona Cardinals at number twenty three. But how far is he gonna fall? Is he gonna fall to number fifty five? DeVante Wyatt? Is it possible he'd actually be there in the second round? I don't know, but maybe that's a little hint as to what the Arizona Cardinals are thinking on him. Well, you know what I'll go. I think they do leave the edge guy and or Devantay Wyatt to round two.

I do think they go a line in round one. Four. They're five starters in the offensive line entering the final year of their contracts. So whether maybe it's even Linderbaum, I'm not sure. I think it's more apt to be a Kenyon Green or Zion Johnson. I think they go a line and then in round two one of those pass rushers and or d Lynman you guys have named all throughout there. Nick Benito, a guy from Oklahoma we talked to Drew Grigson about, and a guy who's Pro

Football Focus. Great. I know it's analytics, but it's just stupid how highly rated his pass rush snaps were and they really didn't use him in a pass rush role a vast majority of the time. He dropped into coverage a whole bunch. And so if you do unleash him and he's still there at fifty five, I could see the Cardinals nabbing him if I had to pick somebody. If you said, you absolutely have to name a name. Again, this is assuming he's there. Jehan Dotson from Penn State.

But I'm not sure he's going to be there. And I like Kenyan Green or Zion Johnson, either of the two offensive linemen who are guard slash tackles, and for some reason Tyler Linderbaum falls and he's there at twenty three. Maybe a scrap all the other ideas and say, you know what, this guy's the best football player. Will find a way to make it work this year with the certainty that this guy is going to be with us

for ten years and be a perennial Pro bowler. Yeah, you know, honestly, this is if it's a situation where you're saying, who do you think is going to be there and what would you like to see them do? I think Kenyon Green is going to be there at number twenty three. I think there's a real possibility he would be there. I've loved Kenyon Green from the very beginning. At any time, you're talking about a guy that could possibly firm that pocket up, that interior pocket for the

Arizona Cardinals. I mean, Kenyon Green is a big unit. He's got a lot of butt man, He's gonna line up and he's gonna put that butt in the gap, and that butt is enough to actually build a bit of a wall for Kyler Murray. And I think that's really really important going forward, finding guys who are going to brawl in the interior and keep that interior pocket solid. For me, I'm gonna go Kenyon Green because I think he's gonna be there, and I think the Cardinals wouldn't

be able to pass him. Wolf. It would fit this pattern that you've been sighting, maneuver by maneuver of the Cardinals, maybe trending towards that team they were the first couple months of the year, not just a winning team, but a much more physical style of football. Would he not fit into that formula? Yes, Polly, he would, There's no doubt about it. Again, listen, what is the strength of the Arizona Cardinals. You have to ask yourself this. It's

the offense you're gonna have. I believe, guys, you're gonna have three hundred plus million dollars wrapped up in Kyler Murray when they come to this extension agreement. I don't know, I don't know how much it's gonna be It's gonna be a boatload that much. We do know. You gotta

protect him, guys, you got to protect him. I think we're going to see a lot more offensive lineman drafted over the next couple of years because they have got to protect him and hopefully they're going to have success, very much like a Baltimore Ravens team has had success drafting offensive lineman. Yeah, and it's intriguing as some of these corner prospects might be. Dave. You know the fact they went out and got Jeff Gladney and and they paid a little bit of money. There was a bidding

more for Jeff Gladney. They won that bidding war, and so you know, you realize that a Sauce Garden, Derek Stanley, those guys aren't going to be there. Andrew Bruth you brought up. But there's also a number of other corners, you know, whether it's Trent McDuffie or a couple of you Dub guys, kier Elham from Florida, former teammate on Mark will Side. You know, so there are possibilities those guys will be available. What do you think, David, the

Cardinals went that direction corner. Yeah. I mean, look, it's anything as possible. It depends on who's there and who's not. I mean, if if all the guys we've talked about here, including Kenyan Greene and Dots and Linder Bomber there, you know, then you've got a tough decision to make whether you want to go corner. You already got a couple of Washington dbs. Jimmy Lake is an excellent position coach, but I'm not sure he's that good. You want three guys

from Washington. But ultimately it's about who the best players are. A boot to me, you know, it's a guy again that played in the Bowl game. It tells me something when you could have sat out and you know, all these guys are sitting us they don't want to get hurt, but the guy loves to play football. That that says something to me. The Gladny thing is really interesting because he was a first round pick two years ago and the Cardinals would not have brought him in given the

things that have happened with him. If they didn't do their homework, if they didn't talk to the former GM Rick Spielman, if they didn't take into account all the legal stuff. So are they looking at him maybe as a starter with him Byron Murphy and Marco Wilson. If you think, you know, we've got three really good corners and then maybe you have Alfred still you resigned Antonio Hamilton, maybe that's an area you don't need to worry about

in the first round or in the draft at all. Now, of course, you can never have too many of them, So if there's somebody maybe in the second round, I don't know. I have like ten guys on the list. I think this is just my guests. Of ten guys, I have one corner on that list. It doesn't mean they won't take one. I just Booth is the one guy have there. But I also think a lot of

the guys are going to be gone. But you know what that's in a stude observation Gladney and using the word starter, because that is the word that Drew Grigson used two weeks ago on the Big Red Rage, right Wolf, Yes, Drew Grison just you know, just waxing poetic about Jeff Gladney called him a starter. Well you stop and think about it too, Paulie. If you're watching tape of Jeff Gladney in NFL games. What do you think is more reliable the tape you're singing NFL games for college tape. Yeah,

you don't even have to project. He started as a right well. And then there's also the possibility of, as Steve Kime said, of a potential draft day trade where their guy is right in front of him. I mean, their guy is only a few picks away and they trade up to nab that guy. That's always a possibility. They have done it in the past. Will continue with the Big Red Rage presented by Santanford in Gilbert Day

Pass our special guest. We have a little lesson a week to go, and I think that it's a great time to continue to watch film, make calls, gather more information. If there's any questions or concerns, reach out to the players, reach out to college coaches, and let's make sure that we were prepared. But so I want to thank you for all the hard work and effort that you guys put into not only building this board, but the time

that you guys spent on the road. You sort of feel like a nomad sometimes because you know you're out there on the road and you feel like you're not really a part of the team. But at the same time, I think you all know that the work that you guys do and the information that you guys gather is really the lifeblood of this organization. Cardinal's flight Plan taking you into the war room. No, your keycard Wolf does

not get you into the war room. The only way you get in is to go to a YouTube dot com slash Acy Cardinals and the all access Cardinal's Flight Plan Emmy Award winning the latest episode has dropped. It is all about Tomorrow's draft twenty twenty two. As we wrap up this edition of The Big Red Rage presented by Santanford in Gilbert Ron Wolfley, Dave pass yours truly,

Paul KELVC. I ran into a longtime Cardinals assistant coach in the hallway, guys, and he told me with a straight face, he was dead serious that in all his years he has never read a single mock draft. And I said, right there, I said, you know what, you are better off for it, because I just read a mock draft that has a Cardinals taking Kenny Pickett the pit quarterback. It's it's and I'll name names, it's draft Wire. There there there mock has a Cardinals taking Kenny Pickett.

I mean you talk about zero chance to Steve Kim quote zero chance. I mean, I don't you know what? We are so ready for this? Are we not, Dave? Are we not ready? In fact? Just to prepare everyone that you might have to adjust on the fly. Steve Kim was talking about how you you got to be ready in that war room because things are happening real quick and in real time. It's the hardest part is to try to think about who's legitimately going to be there.

You know, you always sort of play it out in your mind and you think about different scenarios and you have to go through that. And that's why we have our mock drafts. And the year we picked um down, you can and I look back at that draft and I think about the way that the board fell, and that year we had four guys that we absolutely loved. I remember that, and they literally went right before we picked.

And you just got to be prepared for that. And that's going to happen, and you have to have to have a strategy whether you're going to stay there and pick, or you're gonna trade back or vice versa. You know, if you have somebody you love and you want to go get them, and go get them, never forget too, Pollie. Sometimes you're in the war room and you've got coaches that are trying to force their way in into the war room. Sometimes, Pollie, you could never know what's going

to happen. You gotta be able to move with the with the tide, with the current balling. So so, Dave, last year you nailed it, did you not say on this very show, Zavin Collins number sixteen overall going to the Cardinals? I think so, Polly, but I don't remember for sure, but I think I might have. Okay, do you guys want to get on the record here? Who are you forecasting? Who do you think? Just in case you actually you know, you throw that dart and you

hit a bullseye? What do you think Dave will spare you some time? Wolf? Who are you going with? Okay, listen, do I hope he's there? Yes, Jamison Williams. But there's no way, there's no way. I don't think he gets past the Jets at number ten, I kid you not. They got two picks number four, number ten, I don't think. Listen, the Jets do you think the Jets are looking at boy, if we just have a good draft, we're gonna get

to the playoffs. No, they're not thinking that. So that's one of the reasons why I think they're looking at their young quarterback and saying, Man, that kid from Alabama right there, that kid that kind of looks like Tyreek Hill in terms of running and how he actually would impact an offense, Let's go get him. I could see the Jets doing that. So I wish Jamison Williams was there. I really do with wish he was there. But Paul, I think it's gonna be Kenyan Green. All right, Dave,

what do you think? Real quick? I could definitely see Kenyan Green I mentioned earlier. I'll just throw out John Dawson, but again he may not be there either. True. Well, I'll tell you what. I'll say, all those guys are off the board, and I'll go George Karloftus and I'll just I'll just cave to all the mocks because that seems to be the most popular pick with the Arizona Cardinals. And by the way, you can join the season ticket

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