Big Red Rage - Cardinals Prepare For Cap Challenges

Temperaturizing Vision, Flurry Rage taking it over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready. It's gonna be a show, and Ron will flee. It doesn't get any better than that. Horsh unleash the fiar. You know, Wolf, if you really think about it, it's truly amazing that here we are eleven days or so after the Super Bowl, otherwise known as the dead zone on the NFL calendar, especially without a combine. Right, yeah, Paul, it is a little rough, but Wolf, earlier today did we not have a touchdown?

A touchdown with clapping and cheering and a standing ovation as Mars rover perseverance makes a successful landing on the Red planet. I mean, is there a better intro here for the Big Red Rage brought to you by santan Ford and Gilbert than to have perseverance? And I believe the exact words or mission control were touchdown confirmed. So you know you're all over this thing right now, right, I mean, let me tell you this has potential for

you and Dave Pash does not. I mean, as if I have to do everything around here already, you guys, this is your new touchdown call. It's now Dave Pash can yell out touchdown confirmed? Yes? Okay, you know what, Honestly, I don't know if we want Pash being involved in what's going on on Mars at all. You know, the Pash factor is real, BALI I don't know if we really want to go down that road. Well, he deals with Mars pretty much every college basketball broadcasting leans with

Bill Walton, So you know it's the craziness there. Dave gets out on a regular basis. But seriously, I mean, how about that, how about this saying on the wall in Michian Control. Did you see what the saying in Big Block letters. They have it up there all. No, I did not. I'm sorry I miss this. You know what the nap does to me, Paul. Okay, these are words to live by, as the motto on the wall says, Dare mighty things. Okay, I like it. Dare mighty things, Bobby,

I mean, you know, why not adopt that? Why not adopt that as a marketing model twenty twenty one for your Arizona Cardinals, ron Wolf. You know what, there, mighty things. I love it, Ball, I love where you're going on this thing right here, dare mighty things. The mighty Kyler Murray. Of course, first of all, that that plays into it. I like that. Has he trademarked that? By the way, has he done that? Polly? Do you know if he's trademarked that yet? At the mighty Kyler Murray right there?

I think Pash might have gotten an invoice. You better ask. Okay, So, dare mighty things? Is that what you just said? Polly? Right there? They're mighty things. That's what I said every time I covered a kickoff, Paul. That's exactly see dare mighty things. Because look, everybody, it's a three hundred and twenty five pound man standing in a wedge. So you actually, I mean wolf for the first time ever, you have something in common with those Pocket protect Or geniuses over

at Caltech in Pasadena. You know, the whole dare Mighty things. You guys live by the same motto. Apparently you know, these are the guys getting the perfect score. And so, Paul, you're saying, they're sticking the landing in Mars and I was sticking the sternum with my face mask. Is that what you're saying? Well, not exact. Actually, I guess what I'm saying is while they're looking for signs of life on Mars as we speak right now, you know what I mean, how tough can it be to find find

a couple of corners, find an edge rusher? You know, can you find some interior alignment? You know, a number two wide receiver? Okay, this is our mission here in the offseason. If you're part of this Arizona Cardinals project that I don't know about you, Polly, but I think this first beautiful part of the program right here is off the RELs because for me, there it is they're trying to find life on Mars, and I was trying to damage life as severely as I possibly. No. Let

the record reflect that. Jim On Mohndro play the music on you while you were talking, not me. Okay, what I've just brought was captivating you, Polly. I mean it was. It certainly was poignant. It was relevant as well. It just hadn't seen any of it. Okay, Well, things we'll get substantive and we'll get extreme real when we bring on Kyle Otigard. Momentarily, we're going to get into what Michael Bidwell told you and Doug today. Oh, let me

get this straight. You guys had two interview segments earlier today. Yeah, that's right, Paulie. We did, actually had two. A lot of topics discussed with the owner of the Arizona Cardinals, Michael Bidwell. There you go, the direction of the Arizona Cardinals hanging in the balance. That's next in the Big Red Rage. The clock hits triple zeros. The Arizona Cardinal season is over. They lose the play in game eighteen to seven of the Rams. The Cardinal season is over.

You know, it's execution, I think inconsistency and you know, especially around penalties, the attention to detail and penalties really hurt us, and I think we've got to eliminate those penalties, especially the senseless ones, and get back to great football. And that's all within our control. Yeah, when you lead the end up ellen penalties, guess what, that's not a surprise.

When the owner of Michael Bidwell went asked during the Dug and Wolf Show today ninety eight seven FM Arizona Sports, where do you want to see improvement this coming season? That you would start with something that is most definitely within your control, and that's the flax, the penalties that were so costly all season long. It is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul kelvc Ron, Wolfley and Wolf. That was just one of many answers. We'll get into a lot

of different aspects, will name names. We'll talk about the cap. Kyle ort A guard is right around the corner. But in terms of where he is setting the bar and his expectations for the upcoming season, he was pretty straightforward and he wants to go where he thought the team

was going this year, and that's the postseason. Yeah, POLLI, Yeah, I think we all actually thought that this roster going into the season was playoff worthy, and I give Steve Kyman his staff an awful lot of credit for that, because I do believe this team should have gone to the playoffs last year. That was my expectation. And then when you've got two weeks, the final two weeks of the season, you just got to win basically one of

those games right there. To me, when you're taking on a third string quarterback and a quarterback in the last game of the season that had not thrown a pass on the National Football League, that to me, Man, those are red light games. You've got to win those games, Pauli. And the fact that they lost to both of those games such a massive disappointment on the season. But I do believe the talent is there to be a playoff team. They were a playoff team the first half of the season.

It was almost two seasons and one. It was the six and three start with the high flying offense, and then it was the two and five finish where there were so many costly errors. There was at times a lack of urgency and intensity. And that's not us, that's the head coach, even that's Kyler Murray. Here in the off season, saying you didn't know which team you would get week to week, and then the team you got in week sixteen, to your point, looked more like a

preseason game. And against the Niners, going against the third string quarterback at third string running back that nearly ran for almost two hundred yards in that game. And yeah, and then of course we know how it all finished. So you know you saw it over the first half of the year. The big question, at least to me, is why didn't you see it in the second half of the year And how do you diagnose that exactly?

You know what, Paul, I don't know. I think that is a question that these professional coaches are sitting around the big rectangle talking about. Right now, how are we going to fix the problem? What was the problem? You have to be able to identify that problem first before you can actually fix it. And for me, Polly, honestly, this is just me. This is my observation, period. This is a team's got to get more physical. And the way you get more physical as you bring in more dogs. Period.

We were talking to herm Edwards as a matter of fact, right from ASU we were talking to him and he was talking about the fact that you need those guys to come in and set the tone for everybody else.

You need three or four guys on the offensive side of the ball, three or four guys on the defensive side of the ball that bring that intensity and that expectation and the accountability that you're gonna go out there and you're gonna smash somebody, You're gonna bash him, You're gonna go out there and you're going to be more physical players, keep players accountable. Never ever forget that you can have a coach PAULI up there. First of all,

Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick never talked about being physical, never talked about being physical at all, never said never. Paul never said that. You know why, he didn't have to, and he knew he didn't have to because he was bringing in players that he knew were physical. This is just me, it's my belief. I think the Arizona Cardinals have all the talent you could possibly need. They've got the guys, they've got the talent to be a playoff team.

Now they need some dogs. Now they need some guys that are going to be really physical on the line of scrimmage. It's just my opinion. Paul Well look at the last game we saw in the NFL, the Super Bowl. Would you say Tampa despite having all the name recognition that Tom Brady's and Gronk had a couple of touchdown catches, and even Antonio Brown for all the star power though was out there, would you say the key to that game was that Tampa was more physical on both sides

of the line. There's no doubt about it. Bully, Yeah, I mean, we'd all agree on that right there? Are they? The Kansas City Chiefs, to me, did not take advantage of the fact that they had two edge rushers out there and Shack Barrett of course and Jason Pierre Paul that really were just up the field rushers for the most part, and they had two tackles that were backup tackles starting in the Super Bowl. To me, light up and hammer the ball, run the ball, and when the

Chiefs did, they had success. Clyde Edwards Hilaire averaged over six yards per carry. He had success running the ball, and I thought that was just a massive mistake. We've talked about that as well, but there's no doubt about it. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers one Super Bowl fifty five because

they won the line of scrimmage. Well. When Michael Bidwall was asked her in the Dug and Wall Show Today if it's playoffs or bust for the other two decision makers in that trio, Clip Kingsbury and Steve Kim, he said it was about improvement, was the word he used repeatedly. Didn't actually want to make a playoff proclamation, but out of improvement, Yes, obviously that is the next step for this team is the postseason? How do you get there?

We'll cover that next. Kyle Odergard, Cardinals Insider. Next on The Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford and Gilbert we are satan Ford Alan backed to throw looking for digs. It's that steps up throws deep. Vindle picked off Peterson got that one. He's in his forty yard line thrumming far side of the forty five and down there. Had he got Allen that time. He's gonna be a offseason upstairs management and is going to be It's going to

come down to guys make some tough decisions. So you got a lot of key guys that's that's going to be free agents, but you also got teams that's not going to be able to spend the money like they have. It's twenty eight future free agents for the Arizona Cardinals at least going into the offseason. That's Patrick Peterson. You're the interception against Buffalo one of three this season. But you also heard him talking about the reality that both sides are facing Ron Wolfley. It is the big Red

Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. We are santan Ford. Think about a total attendance last year, because of the pandemic total attendance throughout the league the entire season one point two million. Do you know what attendance was in twenty nineteen during a normal season, seventeen million? Okay, so from seventeen million fans being able to attend total figure to one point two million. In other words, guess what, there was a massive revenue hit and that's going to

be reflected in the salary cap figure. And we got news on that today. And because our hashtag Ron Wolfley is no math around here, at least yours truly, we bring on Kyle outor guard because when it comes in of the numbers, we bring in Kyle Cardinals insider. We say good evening to Kyle and we ask him to break it down and Kyle, what was the headline today when it comes to this salary cap. Yeah, I think

you're right. I'm always ready to talk some math. The salary floor is moving up to one hundred and eighty million dollars, and before the bottom it could have been was one seventy five, so we know that it will be at least one eighty. Michael Bidwell talked the Arizona Sports and said he doesn't think it's going to go much higher than that. So my guests, my best guests would maybe be one eighty to one eighty five somewhere

and there. But either way, it's a lot lower than projected before COVID came because we were talking about maybe two hundred and ten million dollars cap. So, you know, twenty twenty five million dollars difference, that's a pretty big deal. Kyle. That is a big deal. There's no doubt about it. What do you think it's gonna do just big picture overall, heading into free agency, what do you think it's gonna

do to free agents in the free agent period? Yeah, And the way we looked at it with the superstars during the season, they still got their big money deals. Jalen Ramsey a Buddha baker. These guys still got paid. So I think your elite Pro Bowl players are still gonna get a nice contract. But those second tier guys, I'm worried that the free agency is gonna be a big bust for them because teams just can't pay that eight to twelve million dollar range. I think those guys

are gonna get hurt hardest. Where you're a solid veteran in the NFL, you've proven your worth, you think you should get a solid deal because you're a starter. But I just don't think there's gonna be enough money going around to pay a lot of those guys. So I think there's gonna be that first wave of free agency that we see every year, and every other year has come the second and third wave. We might not get

that for a while. It might be, you know, a week until these guys realize, hey, I'm not going to get the deal I want. And maybe there's a lot of one year deals guys saying all right, I'll bite the bullet this season and then hopefully I can cash in next year. Speaking of if you go to AC Cardinals dot com, you can see a little bit of a breakdown and what Chase Edmonds tweeted out this week

Cardinals running back, and I'll just quote loosely. He said, there's gonna be a lot of really good players taking one year rentals. Free agency is gonna be wild, and he threw out the term super teams in the NFL and NBA type development that we've seen over recent years. Kyle, is that realistic? And because guys might be looking to twenty twenty two and beyond a really cash in, how much more apt are they to take that one year

rental as Chase Edmonds calls it. Yeah, I think the one year deal is going to be a big part of it. And you look at a guy like JJ Watt who's made a ton of money and maybe he goes somewhere and that's where the super team idea comes into play. But I personally feel like for the vast majority of free agents, they're just gonna take the best

contract that's on the table. NBA is a little bit different, where these guys have the guaranteed money, these long term contracts, they can kind of pick and choose and team up together. But in the NFL, as you guys know, you can't just have three guys and all of a sudden have

a contender. You need a full team, and I think without a lot of guaranteed salaries with lower money this year, I feel like these guys are going to find the best deal that they can and then grab that, no matter if it's on a team that just won the Super Bowl or made the Super Bowl, or it's a

team that's rebuilding. So, Kyle, it doesn't sound like you believe there's gonna be a bottleneck at the end of free agency, that there's a bunch of people, a bunch of guys players that are holding out to the very end hoping to get oh, I don't know, an extra million thrown in at the end. You don't think there's gonna be a bottleneck. You think pe players are going to go ahead and grab the best offer immediately and

go with it. I think we'll, like we heard from Patrick Peterson, come into the segment, the players realize what's going on, They know that the salary cap is lower, all the teams don't have as much money as they

did in past season. So I do feel like they're gonna shoot for the mood originally and everybody wants this lucrative contract, but I think reality will set in after that first wave and these guys are going to realize that the money is drying up quickly and I'm just gonna have to take a deal because the longer you wait, that means other guys are signing and there's even less

money in the coffers. So I do feel like guys will sign pretty early still in March and then April, but I don't think there's going to be as many waiting because they realize it might not be smart to wait this year. There just isn't enough money to go around. Well. The league Gears starts March seventeenth, and Michael Bidwell, team owner, was asked a ninety eight seven FM Arizona Sports This Morning by Doug and Wolfe about just negotiations and expectations.

Here's Michael Bidwell. We've got to cram a lot more salary that salary cap, so it's going to be difficult, you know, I think for every team to manage all these things, and we hope our veteran players work with us on that because the salary cap for the first time ever will be going down and that brings us back to Patrick Peterson for example, right Wolf, So, I mean, here's a guy who's used to making eight figures. That doesn't seem realistic either because of this year, the point

in his career, what's the market going to be? How longer guys willing to wait? I mean there's a lot of there's a lot hanging in the balance here in timing seems to be everything right now, Kyle, what do you think about what Paul just said in regard to Pat pe What do you think the odds are that he comes back as an Arizona Cardinal? Yeah, I think it's definitely kind of wait to see what happens. I

don't have a great feeling either way. I mean, on the one hand, Patrick Peterson probably isn't the same perennial All Pro, Pro Bowl type player that he was in his prime. But on the other hand, if the car let him go, what are they doing with their number one cornerback spot? And that's a big question. And even though Patrick Peterson might not be completely elite anymore, he's still a solid cornerback and you need those guys on defense.

So I think a lot of it comes down to what his expectation is, what the Cardinals are willing to pay. I think if they're in the same ballpark, it seems like both sides want to work it out. But Patrick Peterson might also feel like, Hey, I'm a free agent for the first time. I really want to see what's out there. And if he does that, the Cardinals can't

just wait around and see what happens. They need to make some moves too, because they don't have their number one cornerback and Drake Kirkpatrick as a free agent two their number two cornerbacks, so they're gonna have to be decisive as well in making decisions. So I think Patrick Peterson is definitely the most intriguing free agent among the Cardinals to me, because I really have no idea what's going to happen. And Wolf didn't Michael Bedwolves say that

they've had a quote number of conversations. Yeah, so what does that tell you? Doesn't that tell you? I mean, we know pat P wants to stay. He said as much after the season. It seems like the feeling is mutual if they can agree on a number, Yeah, exactly, Paul. I don't know what the market is going to be like for Pat P. I really don't know what that's gonna look like. In because of that, I have no

idea what somebody might offer. My natural inclination is to say, there's gonna be a team that's gonna come in hard on pat p of course, and they're gonna make an offer because they know this guy's still an above average corner and maybe he's gonna rebound like many corners have into their mid thirties. Maybe he's gonna rebound, So maybe you're gonna go ahead and give him a bigger deal. Not a huge deal, but a bigger deal. And that at the same time, as soon as I say that, Paul,

I just don't expect that to be the case. I still you know what that scenario, to me plays out is more likely to play out with a son Reddick. I fear that with a son Reddick at twenty six years of age, someone coming in with Olivier Vernon money. And there are a few teams, Kyle, I mean, for example today's trade, right, I mean, Philly's going to absorb thirty nine million and dead money on their camp this

year because they have enough room under their cap. Indy had enough room under their cap to take Carson Wentz's contract, which kicks in effective this season four years one, twenty eight. So there are teams with cap room that will target a few premier free agents. Yeah, there's definitely a handful of teams that do have a lot of cap room because you can roll it over in the NFL, and some teams have been below that spreshold for a couple of seasons, so even though the cap came down there,

they have comfortable amount of margin. Hassan Reddick is another interesting one because he had this great season, but he did it for one year at edge rusher, so is a team willing to pay him, you know, a top tier edge rusher money, which is very expensive because it's a premium position after only one year of showing he can do it. So to me, I thought Hassan Reddick played great. I think he does a nice job where he can drop into coverage really chase those mobile quarterbacks

like Russell Wilson. I like that he's able to chase those guys down, which I think is becoming more and more key for your edge rushers in the modern day NFL. So I think Hassan Reddick is a very important piece. The question is do our team's willing ready to pay him because he's only he only has that short track record and maybe that gives teams pause or maybe not. Like you said, Paul, he's twenty six, he's a double digit SAT guy. Hey, we're going to invest in somebody

like that with such high upside. I really think fit is going to determine where these free agent guys are going to go the vast majority of free agents. State tax needs to be considered on this one. The city in which they play, right, the weather, the fan base, the school system, the coach, and the fit of his offense or defense. I think fit is going to be absolutely huge and a lot of these one year deals that are going to be signed and Wolf, you know,

Michael Bigball. That is part of his pitch. He cites everything you just threw out there, including Arizona state tax structure, yes, which is much more enticing and favorable than most states around the country save Florida or Nevada something like that. So yes, that is most definitely part of the recruiting pitch. We'll continue with a big red rage Kyler Guard. We'll get into Larry his future and more. It is the

big red rage presented by Santanford and Gilbert. We are Satanford staff to Murray and he's gonna keep it off the left side. He's at the ten half. The five Pie's in again. Tyler Murray into double figures, the rushing punch down town of the season, the Cardinals half the league. So more Murray magic that State Farm Stadium. He's got a fire in his value. We've all seen it, a competitive spirit where he wants to win and he wants

to win now. And I love that. That's what I want and that's what I expect, and that's what he expects. Steve Owner Michael Bidwell this morning with wolf By ninety eight seven FM Arizona Sports, talking about Kyler Murray going into year three. Can he take that big step like oh, I don't know, Josh Allen did with the Buffalo Bills this year Baker Mayfield did with the Cleveland Browns, both leading their teams into the postseason. We know two words we all love to hear when it comes to your

quarterback Pro Bowl. Maybe the only two words better when it comes to your starting quarterback rookie contract. And so that's the situation right now with Kyler Murray. It is The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley Cardinals insider Kyle outer Guard and you know, Kyle, why don't you answer that question that was put by Doug and Wolf this morning to Michael Bidwell, what is the next step in your mind for Kyler

Murray in year three? Yeah, I think that he's gonna show a natural progression quarterbacks usually due from their first season to their second to their third. And my big question is can he take that truly big jump where he becomes an elite quarterback because I think he was close in twenty twenty and there were certainly games where he looked like a superstar, but it apped and flowed. He wasn't super consistent all the way through the year.

So I do think if he reaches it. To me, it's the passing game where they get that intermediate efficiency going. I think he's got the deep ball. I think he's a really accurate guy with good arm strength. But reading the field and just knowing exactly where to go with the football in rhythm, to me is the most important thing. I think if he gets there, like watch out for him, because we know what he can do with his legs.

We know all the talent if it all comes together. Yeah, we're talking about the salary cap and bringing in free agents and all that, but if you have a superstar quarterback, your team is going to be a winner. I mean, you need the supporting cast, but those guys are so valuable that if he gets there, the Cardinals are going to be really good next season Kyle hopefully, And this is something that I hope. Of course, he doesn't have

to run the ball for him to be successful. And when I say that, I'm talking about you don't have to have called runs for the Arizona Cardinals offense to be successful, called Kyler Murray run, so to speak. Here, what's your take on that? I mean, I get it, but I feel like for this offense to really go at full tilt, I think that has to be a

part of it. And I feel like when the Cardinals were at their best the last two seasons, that threat was there and sometimes it was eighty yards and two touchdowns. Other games maybe it was only thirty five, but teams had to watch for it. So I do feel like they're built like the Ravens, where Kyler Murray can run it, Chase Edmonds or whoever else is going to be in the backfield can run it and then they can throw. But I think his mobility is so special that to me,

I like seeing it. And I get what you're saying because you don't want him to take hits and you don't want him to wear down. You want to have a nice, long career. But I feel like he's so dynamic on the ground that I would still make it a big part of the office. You know, it's interesting, Kyle, because so much of the time as well, when you run that zone or you run an RPO, the defense suddenly can dictate to the offense what you're gonna do.

You can, hey, listen, if you want Kyler Murray, just by way of example, if you want Kyler Murray running the ball because you want to take shots at him, you know how to make that happen. On those zone reads. Just go ahead and collapse the end man on the line of scrimmage. He's gonna run the ball. You're gonna

have an opportunity to make a tackle on Kyler Murray. So, to me, I don't like the fact that we're typically historically, traditionally you've got the offense dictating to the defense what's going to happen. Because you have the initiative when you start running a lot of RPOs and zone reads. Now all of a sudden, the defense can dictate to the offense what it is that you're going to do with the football, and that, to me, I think is something that may have made them a little bit more predictable

at the end of the season. That's just my thought on that. Hey, that's a great point, and I think it plays into what we heard a lot of the last month and half of the season was adjust to the adjustment. The Cardinals offense needs to adapt to what

defenses we're doing. Sam Acho cited it a couple of weeks ago, remember Wolf right here on this show, and he said what Seattle started doing and what the Belichick disciples and Bill Belichick himself did against Kyler Murray was problematic and in his opinion, watching a lot of the Cardinals games this year, former edge guy sam Acho said that he believes the big step next step for Kyler Murray is to grow in reading defenses and he's got to run the ball. There's no doubt about a guy.

He does have to run the ball because he's just too good at it is. He's just too good to take that away. I'm not saying take that away. I just think they've got to come up with different ways to make their offense a little bit less predictable. Or as Rob Frederickson said last week, Kyle and we've talked about this, maybe Kyler Murray under center a little bit more, some of the bootlegs, the play action, it opens up the downhill running game with it, Kenyan Drake or whomever.

You know. Maybe it's just an adjustment like that to this offense. Yeah, I agree with you, guys, And well, that's a great point. I think that the zone reads certainly lost its luster about halfway through the season, and they do have to figure out a way to either get that going again or to adjust and use other things. I think the Ravens run game is very varied and they do a lot of different things. Some of its zone read, but there's plenty of other things that they

don't use the zone reads. So I think you do want to have a bread and butter, but to be able to adjust if teams are playing you a certain way. Like Paul said once, Bill Belichick and his Disciples did it a certain way. The Cardinals run game wasn't as effective, so they should have a good running game. When you have Kyler Murray with the ball and taking away a defender every single time just because of the way it counts in the box, you should be able to run

the ball naturally with your running back. So I think they need to get that going again and then hope that the passing game also takes other step well. This morning, Wolf on ninety eight seven FM arazon A Sports You asked the owner Michael Bidwell, what he wants to see from Kyler in two twenty one. I want to see the next jump. I think we all want to see the next jump. He made a big step forward between

his working year and his second year. You know, we really want to see that next level, and hopefully that's going to come in the off season if we're able to get together and really see that the development in the connection with his receiver group and doing some of the work that they hopefully will be doing on the field at the training facility with a more normalized OTA and offseason later in the spring when when the vaccinations are out more broadly, how much of his improvement guys.

Do you think is dependent on the players around him, finding that reliable, dynamic number two receiver for defying the offensive line. We know Kylie already tweeted in favor of going with offensive line in the first round in the draft, So maybe a little glimpse into what Kyler's thinking. Yeah, I mean, I think from a personal standpoint, it can be upgraded, and I think it will be upgraded. I feel like years three of Kyler Murray. Like you said earlier, Paul,

he's on his rookie contract. You want to take advantage of it right now. And you already went and got DeAndre Hopkins. But there wasn't that consistent number two wide receiver last season, and I think that was a big miss or they didn't have that guy to go to. I thought it might be Christian Kirk, but it didn't quite happen, especially down the stretch. So do you feel like that on your roster or do you need to

find somebody? And I would not be surprised if they added a number two wide receiver somehow, some way this offseason. I do think that's important. I think you want to surround him with as much talent as you possibly can these next two seasons and see if he can reach that level like a Josh Allen did, where you go from a good quarterback to one in the end. Kyle, are you there? Did we lose you? Kyle? Oh? Yeah, yeah, Okay, we got youa Kyle. What can you tell us in

regard to Sean Jefferson. I'm very very interested. I know you're very very close to the team here. What are you hearing about Sean Jefferson, the new wide receiver coach

for the Cardinals. Yeah, it was fun talking to him a couple of days ago, and I think he's important because you've got young guys like Christian Kirk and Andy Isabella and Keishawn Johnson, and if he can do a good job of bringing those guys along, I think that could mean something for this group where DeAndre Hopkins is your star, but I think you need those other guys to step up. And we'll see what he can do and how much he's able to be around them this

off season. But if he can help those guys out, give them some little tricks of the trade, maybe they can't get that passing game to the next level. You know, well, me and you over what the last two decades. We agree on very little. I mean, me and you, we don't see eye Molly Sports or beyond. You know, Kyle Outergard is a close second. I mean this guy on Cardinals Underground podcast, we agree on nothing, and then you got Darren Herby and glowing some of my points out

of the water with his fact checking. It's just it's brutal. It's a brutal kind of slug every single week on the podcast. And we disagreed on Seaun Jefferson the following what's most important? Why was he hired? And Kylee with Andy Isabella? Okay, but you know what, I think it's just as every bit as much as Christian Kirk because he's going into a contract year and you got to figure out is he a number two receiver or not? And if he isn't a number two receiver, you're not

gonna pay him to be a number three receiver. Yeah, that's a great point, it really is. But honestly, does it always have to be in either or? Guys? Doesn't have to be an either or can it not be both? You know? For me, I think you could build a case. There's no doubt about it. Christian Kirk and his disappearance in the second half of the season. That is a mystery, Kyle,

what are your thoughts on that right there? Yeah, I mean, I don't know exactly why it went from so good that stretch of games and then you know, really fell off pretty badly. And I'm not sure exactly why. I think the passing game wasn't great overall down the stretch. But I'm wondering if Christian Kirk, at his height and not being that super elite speed guy, if he does make more sense in the slot, if you can get him in there. And obviously that depends on Larry Fitzgerald

and what he decides to do. But I'm intrigued if they can put Christian Kirk in the slot what he can do, because I think his skill set might fit better there. He did it in college. And we'll see what happens in twenty twenty one if it's even an opportunity. But if he gets into the slot, I think Christian Kirk might be able to blossom. All right. Well, I mean, Kyle didn't give us a hot take like Dan Roloski today on ESPN. You guys here, Dan Roloski earlier today

on the Carson Wentz trade to Indy. He said that now that he's reunited with Frank Reich and he's on the Colts, he's firmly back in the MVP consideration. He'll be a factor in the MVP right soon to which everybody pretty much lost their mind, both in studio and on the internet. So you know, Kyle, get ready, I'm gonna have a hot take for you on Cardinals Underground next week because I know you're dying to blow anything

and everything I say out of the water. Now I'm gonna have to pump up my game next time and come up with the fire. That's right, Kyle. Thank you. Thanks for the insight and the numbers in particular because once again our hashtag around here is nomad. Thanks Kyle, love your stuff. Kyle, Thank you brother. Thanks guys, appreciate it. There you go. You know, if you're want to talk numbers, the next gen stats, just hit up Kyle on Twitter.

We continue with a big Red Rage present of my Santan Ford in Gilbert trips left single receiver right second ago in the fifteen snapped to Murray, play action pass Murray and Trouble on the pocket rolls to the left now throws left side of the end zone, and oh my goodness, Larry Fitzgerrold caught it for a touchdown, his first touchdown of the year. And it's been fens falling backwards, the defender screening and he probably can't even see the ball until it hits him his hands and the Cardinals

get a touch. Larry Fitzgerald, don't know how many more times we're gonna get to watch him here at State Barn Stadium. Take every one of those in That is the question yet again, another offseason where that is the question, Larry, to be or not to be an Arizona Cardinal this next season as that answer hangs in the balance. It is the Big Red Race presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert We are Satan for Paul calvc Ron Wolfley Special thanks to Kylo to guard wolf as a guy who's

been tackled at least twice by Larry Fitzgerald. You know, what can you tell us? Come on now, what kind of please? You've been wrong every off season pretty much, but I still ask you the question even though you've been wrong every offseason, right Polly, listen to honestly? You know, I you know a lot more about this than I do. You're laughing as you ask me that question, because you know, nobody talks to me whatsoever. Nobody tells me anything. My

gut tells me. The longer it goes, the better the odds he comes back. I agree with that, you do. I do agree with that. I think remember what Antoine Bethey told us here recently on the Big Red Rage. When you're trying to figure out if you're gonna play an eighteenth season, and this is bithet now, someone who played fourteen seasons. It's not September through January, because on a week to week basis, you can get up for games and the adrenaline and the work's already in this

season started. It's February through August. Yeah, it's it's the mental grind of Okay, I gotta stay in shape. I gotta get an even better shape because I'm even older. It's the OTAs. It's gonna be all these zoom meetings. It's gonna be training camp. I mean, well, if you

played a decade in the NFL, can you relate to that? Yeah? No, I can relate to that, Polly, Yeah, I just I feel like the longer it goes, And the reason why I feel this way, Polly, the longer it goes, the better the odds it tells me he might be conflicted. I think we all looked at Larry Fitzgerald last year and saw him play in his seventeenth season, saw the injuries that he dealt with, right he had the COVID situation as well. We saw what happened to Larry, the

dip in productivity. I think that has a lot to do with it as well. But it tells me that he's conflicted about walking away under those auspices. And I know what that feels like, Paul, because I did that in year nine. I sat out after nine years in the NFL. I sat out with a bad back. And now listen, Bally, I'm not comparing myself to the legend, all right, that is Larry Fitzgerald. I'm not, but I know what it's like. I wanted to say goodbye to the game on my terms, not sitting out with a

bad back. So I came back for that tenth year in nineteen ninety five. I wanted to come back and be able to say I'm wondering if Larry feels the same way, knowing how this joined it last season was for him if he doesn't want to go out that way. Okay, So once again to confirm you have not spoken with Larry Fisher. I have not. Okay, Let's let's hear from someone who has. Because owner Michael Biddwell this Morning with You and Doug on Newsmaker's Week of ninety eight seven

FM Arizona Sports had this update on fits. Let's just be patient. There are a lot of things that Larry's thinking about. And I did get a chance to speak with him on the way back from the super Bowl. We rode back to Phoenix together and had a long discussion. Didn't ask him a single question about this, and it scause you know, you just want to let him take his time, be patient, and I hope we're able to see him in our uniform coming back this year. It's

it's going to be an interesting year. We certainly in this offseason. Could the wait, this is me surmising now, Could the wait be related to a business decision? Could there be a business component this? Perhaps Larry has been waiting for the news we got today. What the sour clap floor? What could it be? What will I earn as a guy who's earned his jersey number in millions each of the last several years, eleven million per Yeah, what sort of haircut is Larry gonna have to take financially?

Maybe he needs or wants an answer to that question. Yeah, Polly, that is that's a good question to answer or have answered. But I can just say once again, I think overall, it's got a lot to do with his productivity and you know, Larry, he's being gone the productivity and wanting to go out there. And as long as he's productive, why wouldn't Larry go out there if he's healthy and he's feeling good. Last year it was not that case. It's one of the reasons why I think the longer

it goes on, Polly, he's conflicted. I think he's conflicted because maybe he does want to come back and play, and we're gonna all find out, we're gonna have a front row seat. But man, I hope he does. I hope he comes back and gets that eighteenth season in and you know what, gets that ten minute standing ovation from the Red Sea. Yes, I mean, he just there's something about Larry going out without fans being able to salute him in person at State Farm Stadium. That just

doesn't feel right, doesn't. No, it doesn't. But you know, Paulie, it's not gonna matter to him. He doesn't look for those moments the way we do. It's true, we're the ones who probably want the standing ovation for Larry right right. Not him. He's gonna sweet it out on a Friday or something like that, and I'll try to make it as as least announcement and then walk on the Great Wall of China the next day. I do have a theory on Larry that I haven't shared yet. We'll get

to that next. To wrap up this edition of the Big Red Race presented by Santan four King Gilbert. You know there's gonna be a size much shift here. You know, we've already started to see it with veterans are going to be cut around the league, and so when you think about what's going to happen going forward, we're gonna be able to improve this team. They're gonna be other teams that are going to be moving around because they're gonna lose talent. And I'm very bullish on twenty twenty

one for both Cliff and for Steve. That's intriguing, isn't it? That actually plays in what we mentioned earlier, and that's team owner Michael Vidwan went Doug and Wolf this morning at ninety eight seven FM Arizona Sports as we wrap up this edition of The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. That that does tie into what Chase Edmonds had tweeted about earlier this week where he said there's going to be a lot of really good players taking one year rentals. Free agency is going to

be wild. According to Chase Edmonds via Twitter and Wolf, this is my theory on Larry. Okay, does anybody have a bigger and better Rolodex contact list in his phone? Then Larry Fitzgerald in an NFL locker room right now, we would you say Warren Buffett is a big name

out there pubs. Remember on The Big Red Rage right here on this show two years ago, he was talking about how he gets text messages from Tiger Woods and brock Obama, Right, I mean, you know, right, and so hey, if that is the case, Larry needs to come back and pull a Lebron and just start recruiting guys, you know, come here in a one year rental. You can enjoy

the weather and the natural grass estate Farm Stadium. You can even come over to my place in PV and hang out, you know, I mean, just that would be a great scenario and game plan, would it not. No, You're You're right on it, Bullie. Honestly, you need that superstar effect, that impact to recruit him today's free agency. I would love Corey Linsley honestly, right now if the Arizona Cardinals targeted the center from the Green Bay Packers. A guy that's played seven years in the league, He's

twenty nine years old. He still has a lot of value going forward. Right now. I don't know exactly what the market is going to be for him, but Corey Linsley to me, is a guy that I would love that if the Arizona Cardinals targeted him, especially, experience is so vital at that position as the quarterback of the old line. Right just solidified because well, you answer basically my question. I was gonna say, you know, mock drafts, have the Cardinals taken anything from you know, I mean

cornered a wide receiver, O line edge running back. But in terms of position of need and free agency, you're thinking center, any other position that stands oh. I would say interior offensive line certainly cornered, depending on what happens with Pat He I would say even safety help, maybe the secondary. I listen, I think the Cardinals are going to go in. They have an awful lot of needs and they're gonna take the best player available at those needs.

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