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Ep. 518 - Cornerback Malcolm Butler, one of the new faces on the Cardinals defense, joined Paul Calvisi and Ron Wolfley to talk about having confidence in his game, playing in Vance Joseph's system, competing with a "dog" mentality and his legendary Super Bowl-sealing interception at State Farm Stadium. Plus, a discussion about position battles and the need for consistency and discipline on offense.

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Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles ahead. He got Jack. This is the Big Red Rain presented by Santanford in Gilbert. Harry's gonna score touchdown. Slim to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo, he came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Where are you Santanford State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm

and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts. Visit Hacy Cardinals dot Com, Slash podcasts, The Rods rising ard, temperaturizing vision, flurring, rage taking over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready, It's gonna be a show. And Ron will Fleet it doesn't get any better than that horn, unleash the far our. Fresh off the very first day of Card's camp. And

what a players like to do. They like to compare the first day of camp to everybody now the first day of school, Christian Kirk, yesterday, Wolf, whether you realize it or not, you were the hitome of the first day of school today. What are you talking about? Paul Basin onions, Let me paint you a picture. Little Ronnie Wolfley over there, Ronnie Paul Wolfley on the sideline. He's got his preppie collared shirt. It's all press nice. He's got his dress shorts on. None of the traditional camo

for Cardinals camp. Nope, it's the first day of camp. His hair, it's slicked back, he's clean shaven. He's clutching his laminated roster card, not just a roster, but laminated. His eyes are bright, they're wide open. He's taking note of personnel groups. He's he's raising his hand to call out formations. I mean, wolf, the only thing missing, and maybe I missed it. Did you bring a shiny, new fresh apple for the head coach, Cliff Campsberry. I did, not, Paully,

And nobody calls me Ronnie Paul except TUPI. Yeah, except Topi, my mom. Of course, that's right. Nobody Paul, not you, that's for sure. What are you talking about the apple? Why are you talking about that? Wolf? I mean, you were really um, you were attentive. You are you know? You even forgot to bring snacks today. You were so into football you forgot your snacks. And honestly, I did like the laminadd roster. That was very very cool because

it was broken down by position. Did you notice that, Paully, all the running backs were actually together, right, All the offensive linemen were together, all the wide receivers. It was like looking at a roster based on the different rooms, the position rooms on the team. I love that it was beautiful. It's the way a GM would look at

the roster. That's exactly right, Polly, yep. And the fact you were looking at it with your readers, you actually remembered your readers was another indication, boom Ron Wolfley, you were mentally ready to go. Today. It is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are Santanard and wolf just like those guys who are going to be inducted into the Hall of Fame this coming weekend. We might have to put you on a time limit. Okay,

there are speech limits this year, six minutes. By the eight minute mark, you're gonna get ushered off the stage with the Academy Award like orchestra music. So you might have to just you know, make it tight, make it brief today because we have Malcolm Butler Cardinals starting corner

CB one coming up around the corner. You want to talk about an alpha dog, Polly right there, and Malcolm Butler once again, listen, is he Malcolm Butler of year, number two, number three, number four when he was young? Now he's getting a little long in the tooth. But I can tell you right now what he has done is used technique. He has, to me, some of the best techniques, some of the best hands that you could

possibly want as a corner. It's one of the reasons why he's had the kind of success that he's had in the National Football League. Last year was a bit of a downer and then he got stronger as the year went along. The second half of the season, Malcolm Butler was playing like Malcolm Butler. I expect him to come in here and be a starting corner for the

Arizona Cardinals, and I mean make a difference. Paul, would you say that just based on today and we can't get into specifics exactly, but would you say Robert Alford, speaking of corner, made an impression today? Yes? How about AJ Green? Would you say he showed up? There's no doubt about it, Bally, AJ Green, I I was there was only one other guy that impressed me more than AJ Green. Okay, and that was Chandler Jones. Did you

see chan Did you see Champ? Because I'm telling you right now, when that portion of practice that we can report on that we were watching, did you see Chandler Jones, Paul, It's it's what. I didn't see a Chandler Jones. I didn't. I didn't see a two hundred eighty pound Chandler Jones. Oh No, I'm talking spelt like I've never seen him spelt. That's that's intriguing. There's because Arizona Cardinals finished fourth in the NFL with forty eight sacks a year ago minus

Chandler Jones. Yep. So if all of a sudden he's back to the form of his nineteen sax season or his seventeen sacks season, which he's just removed from those years, then look out. So yeah, Chandler Jones. Okay. By the way, Chandler obviously did report he was there for the run test, same with Jordan Hicks. So that was some of the

initial headlines on the conditioning test day yesterday. Then today, Chandler Jones running mate JJ Watt was not out on the practice field, and after practice we learned that he tweaked his hamstring. He called it a little soreness, and he didn't practice today. He's not going to practice tomorrow, And it turns out he eventually ultimately went on the active pup list, the same listed as Dennis Gardeck, so

he can't practice until he comes off that list. JJ Watt, Okay, that really is a bummer right there, because honestly, hopefully this is just a little scrain. He'll get over this quickly. It won't linger into training camp whatsoever. And sometimes, Fawley, that's exactly what happens, especially with some of the older guys. If you pull a muscle, that thing will linger from time to time. And hopefully this thing doesn't get tweaked

again or get worse as the preseason unfolds. Right here now, listen, it's not critical that JJ Watt goes out there and is ready to practice and play on Monday when they put the pads on and go out and actually start trying to drive somebody into the ground. If he's not there on Monday, I'm not going to panic. I'm not

going to get all worked up about it. This is something that happens that guys that from time to time get a little bit older in their career, they're more susceptible to a muscle pull and then trying to get it right, it takes a little bit more time. Now, again, I don't know anything about the severity of this pool of this poll, but Polly, I'm not concerned about it early, am not. It's July twenty eighth, yes, So with that

in mind, the opener isn't until September twelfth. Yeah, thirty two year old JJ Watt, three time NFL Defensive Player of the Year, so he knows he's going to take his time. If he misses some time at this point of the season, who cares. Just got to make sure he's right for Week one. As the Cardinals pick up from last season. And I bring that up because that was a talking point the last two days with Cliff Kingsbury, especially on the heels of what Chase Edmonds had to

say and now the Cardinals. One of the big keys to this season, in the opinion of the Cardinals running back, is to adjust to what they saw midway through last season. And the finish was well reflective of some of the struggles the Cardinals had on offense. They started six and three they lost five or the last seven, and Cliff Kingsbury was asked about twenty twenty. Nobody was half of how that ended. It's just an abrupt end. You don't expect it to happen, and then you kind of go

your own way. And so we've definitely addressed it in the team meeting, and there's a lot of new faces that weren't around for it, but they understand how it happened and what it looked like, and there's a lot of highly motivated players. Yeah, suffice it to say that was part of his initial address to the team, talking about the finish a last season, and well, how would you diagnose that when people ask you about that the start and then the finish before and the after, what

do you tell them? You know what? PAULI, honestly, I just think the Arizona Cardinals became a little bit I don't want to say cocky in any way shape or for him, but I think they became a little bit too predictable in what it was that they were going to do. I think it was a situation where they like to throw the ball an awful lot. They use Kyler Murray and Kyler Murray running the ball an awful lot. This is something that I think they've got to adjust

their offense around. Bally. I don't think you can make Kyler Murray the central figure of your offense. And when I say that, I'm talking about obviously a quarterback. His job is to throw the ball. That's what his job is. His job is too scramble and use his legs to extend plays and make plays there's no doubt about that,

and even run in some situations. But if you're going to build your rushing attack around your quarterback running the ball, in order to be successful, a successful running the ball, you've got to have your quarterback running the ball. I just don't think Polly, that is something that is going to be repeatable in the National Football League. I think at some point in time, Paulli, it's got to be

about your offensive line and your running backs running the ball. Sometimes, Poly, you just got to line up and as you've heard me say all off season, sometimes you gotta line up and just be better than the dude across from you. You know, we talked about it in December, did we not, the final month of the season, and it was adjust to the adjustment whatever defensive coordinators did to nullify Kyler Murray. Through the first nine games of last season, he had

twenty seven offensive touchdowns. It's either throwing it or running for it, and over the last seven games he had only ten. Now in between there he had the shoulder injury. There's no doubt about that, and and Cliff Kingsbury mentioned that, and there's still all been no real mention as to the severity. It was a factor. We don't know how big, but there's out about it. When when you have Chase Edmonds at the podium yesterday and he says, and I quote,

we put it on ourselves. We folded, point blank period. We have to be better. And then he talks about the offensive identity that they have to find to start this season, how they struggled the second half of last season, how they got certain looks and teams took away the primary identity and they didn't adapt. We've talked about it, Wolf, how many times the offseason, the two high safeties, zone coverage underneath and they challenge the Cardinals that way, Yeah,

run the ball. That's what they did. They challenged him to run the ball. Look at Cliff Kingsbury is a smart guy, as you well know Polly, he's also a humble guy. But this is a return, I think, a return of this offense hitting the reset button. Overall, Cliff Kingsbury's got to lead the way in regard to just saying hey, sometimes sometimes boys, you gotta just be better than to do to cross from you. And that means you've got to run plays where the defense knows what's come.

At Bully, you know what's coming, The defense knows what's coming. Everybody knows what's coming. But try to stop it now. You try to stop it now, even though you know what's coming. Taint team after team after team they do this, especially in the NFC. When you think of the Green Bay Packers, this is what they do. When you think of the Tennessee Titans, this is what they do. Everyone knows. Here comes Derrick Henry. Here comes Derrick Henry on the

tackle zone. Here comes Derrick Henry on the twenty two and twenty three double. Here comes Derrick Henry Downhill, Tampa Bay. You play the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, you better believe here comes twenty two and twenty three double the power without the poll. And then they're gonna use one play action to throw the ball. Everybody knows it. It's something altogether

different to try to stop it. And I think this is where the offense for the Arizona Cardles can really grow is just hey, listen, you know, w lineup and just be better than somebody. You know. We'll get into this a little bit later because Malcolm Butler's around the corner. We'll talk more about the Cardinals offense and offense that well, it featured DeAndre Hopkins to the point where he had a larger percentage of a team's receiving yards in any

other receiver in the league. Joelson oh will that the Cardinals in terms of pre snap motion ranked dead last last year. Yes, the forty nine ers were first with a raven seventy percent of their snaps compared to the Cardinals thirty three point five percent. So you wonder how the keyword is evolved on what's that going to look like?

We'll hear from Malcolm Butler next on the big Red rage presented by satan Ford and Gilbert football is hit the Patriot one the quarterban gilfs fits in the shotgun formation, Lynch will flink into if left two wine to the airside, one to the far in the shot gun, there's the snape's belt high prick from the dinner sent the dintercepted by Molcolm Butler. Malcolm Butlers intercepted this little sent have

the goal line twenty seven shift. Butler does an unbelievable job getting inside, and I'm surprised that Russell Wilson through it. Here Paula read the play perfectly, one behind the pick and ran right to where the slam was going to be throne. So Wolf, if we will never forget that Super Bowl winning pick and we're reminded of it every time we walk onto the field through that south end zone, yes, then how do you think the person responsible for it? How do you think he feels? How do you think

he reacts? Because you know what, right here, right now, in the big Red Rage, you have a chance to ask that person. Because Malcolm Butler joins us, Cardinal's newest cornerback and yes, the author of that Super Bowl ceiling interception. Malcolm, how are we doing? I'm doing well? How about yourself? Man? We're doing great? Malcolm. Thank you so much for joining

us right now. So have you had that moment? Have you had that opportunity to kind of revisit the spot on the field were you made one of the most incredible plays of Super Bowl history. Um Nah, I haven't. But you know when I walked in the stadium yesterday, you know we had walked through. Um I don't know how they got the field set up, but I couldn't get to the spot. But once everything get back flat and back to normal, I'm gonna sit on this spot.

You know. I did an interview in Seattle about the NFCUS a couple days ago, and they talked about the Cardinals a lot. Obviously, I see my opinion, et cetera. And they asked about Pat Pete leaving and there and then they said, wait a minute, the guy replaced him as Malcolm Butler. We don't talk about Malcolm Butler and Seattle. So have you ever been back to Seattle? And how do you think you'd be treated if you were spotted

on the streets? Um Nah, I never Actually I never played in Seattle, and um, I don't think there'll be a big fan of me. But at the same time, man, it's the game of football. Everyone should you know, love the sports. Competitive, you know, I always go out way and yeah, we got our opinions. Malcolm, I have to ask you about that play quickly because it was truly one of the most incredible plays I've ever seen. What tipped you off on that? What gave you the idea

to jump at road? Well, Um, you know, obviously we went over at practice, and you know, once they got into formation, you know, it looked familiar to me. And um, you know, as a as a high school player, always you know, looked at the running back and you know, see what, look at his eyes and see which way he was going. But in that situation, I didn't think they was running the ball, So I looked at the quarterback and just see what he was eye in and what he was looking at. And you know, uh, you

usually don't run stacks on the two yard line. And and I just told myself, if this wide receiver step to the right, I'm breaking it in. And that's what were you a rookie? Was that your rookie year? Yes, sir, I was a rookie. So think about that undrafted guy out of West Alabama and you're making a Super Bowl winning play, just that one snap, that one point. How do you think that's changed your life? Oh? It changed my life. A lot. Man. It brung a lot of

pressure to me. Um, I think I handled it well. You know, I wouldn't be playing in the NFL for eight years if I didn't handled it well. Um. You know, things changed, man. You know I became a you know, a household name. You know. It wasn't perfect, but you know, um, you know I just gotta keep your head down, working in. You know it made me feel make me feel good, man. I you know I was a celebrity overnight. Well know,

you know a lot of things changed. Man. So here y'are Malcolm your first training camp of course as an Arizona Cardinal. Talk to me about where your thoughts are now. We're how's it going for you so far? And how much are you anticipating this season? Um? You know I'm looking forward to it. Um. You know I'm learning the playbook, you know, getting to know my teammates. Um. You know, trying to lead by example and not by talking all

the time. You know, Uh, I hear hustling to the ball, you know, studying the studying my play book, you know, encouraging the young guys to make plays and you know, fight they weigh on the roster, you know, It's just like I did, man. Um. You know I got big expectation for for the Arizona cart this year. We just

got to play as a team. Um. You know, play as a team and you know, work hard and grime man, and you know, be together and it won't be perfect, but if you put your heart and soul into it, man, it should work out your way. It's all about you, Malcolm Butler. Presented by Santan Ford. It is the Big Red Rage. What do you think vance Joseph and the defensive coaches have learned about you in your game so far? Um? You know I know they I think they I know they know I like to tackle. You know I like

to cover. You know I like to do anything to help the team win. You know, it's not too many things I won't do on the field to help the team win. And you know they know I'm a competitor. Um. Yeah, that sums it up right there. Man. I want to win, Malcolm. Um. Your coaches call you a dog, Your teammates call you a dog, scouts call you a dog. You are, without a doubt, an alpha dog. Where does that come from? Oh? Man?

It comes from you know, playing one year high school football. UM, going to um juco um, you know, going to the New England Patriots, UM making a try out out of forty people, two out of forty people. And you know it's I'm just I'm just an underdog man. And I you know, I had to fight fight my way to stay in this league. And that's that's what you gotta do, especially if you're not a first round pick. No, no

offense against first round picks. But if you're an underdog in this league, you gotta you gotta grind and scratch each and every day, each and every play, you know, to stay in this league, because, um, it's very competitive. But you know, I always been a dog. I've always been a dog. You know what else called him a dog wolf? Rob Moore Titans receivers coach, our guy, Rob Moore played for the Cardinals, was on our broadcast team for a while, and I had a chance to talk

with him. He immediately mentioned Malcolm bother And I know after you signed or after last season, you tweeted out, I balled at the age of thirty. I think I can ball harder at thirty one. So I mean, how much do you have left? Because I know that was a question. Probably a lot of the haters out there had to say on social media, right, yeah, yeah, man, I still got a lot in the tank. Man. You know, um, I you know, I haven't had much injuries, a lot

of injuries and stuff like that. But you know, you know, your body gonna talk to you. But I'm very confident and my skills set. I'm very confident um of my performance on the field. So we'll see high go. But I'm confident. I'm a bag that. Uh. Because you had a career high four picks last season, you also had a career high one hundred tackles. I mean a corner with a hundred tackles. I mean, what what do you attribute that to? Malcolm? Someone someone? Right? Oh no, ok,

how about Derek Henry though? Are you ready to tackle Derrick Henry, your former teammate. Yeah, yeah, I'm ready to tackle whoever. Man, I'm ready to tackle whoever whoever comes my way. Man. Hey, on that note, right there, Malcolm, you've got one technique, you got one technique that you'd like to use on one play? What technique are you gonna use? What? What would you what? What technique would you choose? If you had one play? With there carry No, no,

not tal Ken. I'm talking about man, I'm talking about a zone. I'm talking about any type of technique in the secondary that you would employ on a third and obvious pass situation. Um, man, I you know I'm gonna have to go with man and man, I'm gonna have to go to man. What kind of man press? Man? Would you? You want to walk up? You want to jam them, you want to play off? I'm walking up man, I'm walking up there? Man? Why okay? Why? Why do you Why does that appeal to you? What's telling my life?

Walking up there? Yes? Because, um, you're giving them a chance. You really like giving them space and you know, uh in in a slanting goal, you know what I mean. It's I don't know, I just want to eat that space up right there. I just want to be Yeah, okay, so I'll go there. How about week one, we said, Derrick Henry, what about Julio Jones. Have you gone against Julio Jones before? And what do you think is gonna be most important in that matchup? Um? You know I

went against Julio Jones over there, Beckham Tonio Brown. You know I didn't You know, I didn't played played against a lot of good wide receivers in this league, and obviously you know I used to go head to head with A J. Brown. But you know, it's it is what it is, you know, Um, September to twelve. You know they're gonna tell it all. But you know, I'm here to compete. I'm here to do anything to help the team win. I know those are good players, but I think we got good players too. I think I'm

a good player, and we'll see how I go there. Malcolm, I gotta tell you, man, I got so much respect for you because I share a coach, Bill Belichick. Of course, in nineteen ninety two ninety three, he coached the Cleveland Browns. I absolutely I need to tell you this. I absolutely loved playing for him because he was a guy that basically was like, you know what, I'm gonna leave you alone. You just do your job and I'm gonna leave you alone. What are your thoughts on Bill Belichick? Man, I got

so much respect for you know, Bill Belichick. You know I know things that um, you know, it didn't work out the way that you know, the opposed to win at the end, but I got so much respect for him. Man.

So if he was a great coach. You know, it's like everything that he says, it's right, you know what I mean, you can't sometimes but like I don't like what he's saying, but he's right right, And I've seen he's got to do some things that, um that I that I never seen coaches do before, you know, spraying water on a on a on a snapper, hands wise field goal, uh, making the DBS take their hands up

with tennis balls. He's a great coach. I got a number great things to say about Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft in the organization, and I appreciate hungry for give me an opportunity. What was the one with the hands and the tennis balls? Explained that real quick? Yeah, man, Uh, I guess were grabbing one day and he said, we're gonna stop that. So in other words, you had to hold the tennis balls. Now he take to me hand what, Oh my goodness, man, at this next level, that's that's

coach Melchers. Oh my goodness. All right, Malcolm Butler, I guess wrapping it up here on the big red rage. So from one dog to another, tell us what you've seen out of Robert Alford so far because the Cardinals are searching for that corner opposite of you, Malcolm. Um, you know Robert Alfred, he's he's a he's a good he's a good player. Man. He's a he's a he's a dog. I think he'll a dog. You know, he's a small school guy. You know that had to work

his way up. Um. I know he about a few injurvision and stuff like that, but he's a he's a he's a good player. Made some good plays today. Um. You know he helped me out when I asked some questions. And you know Byron Murphy, we got him too. So we all working together. It's a collective. Um, it's a collective group. And you know if we all on the same page, you know we should look good. How do you like playing for Vans? Joseph the defensive coordinator right now?

I like playing for Vans. You know, Um, he liked to run multiple defenses. Um, he's a he's a good coach. Man, he's a good coach players. Coach. Let me give you one stat from last year you played on a defense the Tennessee Titans. There was bottom three in sacks the Arios on our Cardinals. Ron Wolfley were top five, Yes, number four total sacks, forty eight sacks. Here we go. What can that do? That sort of pass rush? What can that do for you and the DBS? Malcolm, Um,

quick passes, man um bad throws into our hands. You know, pass rushes everything. You can have a good corner, a great corner, Hall of Fame corner. You ain't got no pass rush. You know you can't cover that long. So um it should help out a lie. You know this might date me a little right here in Malcolm, Okay, all right, but do you know what clueing is? Do you know what clueing is? Um? Is it a football term? Yeah? It's peaking into the backfield clueing. It's like, look at

it's what you did. I'm that unbelievable play in the Super Bowl. You were looking more at the quarterback right, you were peaking. What do you call that when you peek inside? Um? I just got a term for that. I don't know that it's just a technique, but it's just something that I the gang was on the line and you know, I'm trying to make a play. But I told myself, if it's a run, you know they gotta handle that if it's a pass. I'm a hand of this. And you know, I just keep looking and

the wide receivers outside and I just broke. So so are you? I mean, do you pass your knowledge along to a Byron Murphy? Do you talk to him about that? Um? Not really something? What you know, I just try to I try to lead by example. Yeah, And like like my coach, I always told him, you eat the guy to or you don't. Last question for me, for Malcolm Butler, the two young guys, the two draft picks. You got the fourth rounder, Marco Wilson, you got the sixth rounder,

take Allen Man. Those guys look good out there. They look good at least in terms of their size, the athleticism. What have you seen so far from the young guys? Um? You know, we usually don't talk about other players, but I really like Marco Man. He's uh, he got nice size, he quick, he fast, UM got nice speed, he can jump run, He's very athletic man. And if he just grind it out and you know, work hard, you know he'll be he'll be a good player in this league.

In the same for Xavier the big guy, he can move, drop, Karil Flett drop. You know he can blitz um. Guys got talent, and I think the Cards did a good job picking those guys up. It's amazing thing because I hear you say, you know, we don't talk about players right there, And you know what's amazing about that. Back when I played those rookies, we wouldn't talk too with the rookies. That's right. How dare I ask about rookies?

You're right, exactly right. That's old school, Malcolm. Are you chopping it up with these guys or are you just kind of keeping Yours're getting the donuts is what they're doing. I say some here now, I'll be talking to Robin Alfred is born in two thousand. That's right, Oh buddy, all right, Malcolm man, we've enjoyed it. Thank you, bud, all right, thank you. There you go, Malcolm Butler joining us on the big Red Rage Wolf. What if I told you his coverage grade last year for Tennessee would

have led the Arizona Cardinals a year ago. Think about that not have been a surprise ball, and think about the fact he has a dozen playoff games under his belt. So if the Cardinals get where they want to go, to the postseason. There's a guy who's been there and done that. How many tackles did he have? He had

one hundred exactly, Thank you, Baul, appreciate it. Next and next on The Big Red Rage will continue with our Cards Camp Week one edition of Cards Camp Edition, The Big Red Rage presented by Santan four in Gilbert shotguns half to Kyler Murty from the pocket, deep pass left side going for Hopkins, one hand to catch in a touchdown. DeAndre Hopkins was blanketed by a Jet, but it don't matter. Hopkins makes the catch and the Cardinals man just put the Jets to sleep. Oh can you taste it right there?

Maybe the fifty fifty balls to the left of Kyler Murray and a perfect pass the hop that is big time with a one hand snack, perhaps the best ball around receiver in the NFL. Great hands, great vision, great speed, playmaker. Make a play. That's exactly what happened right there. That was a key play in the Week five win at the Jets thirty to ten. Cardinals. Get the way Kyler Murray and up your NFC Offensive Player of the Week

went twenty seven to thirty seven. Three eighty had that touchdown there the thirty seven yard strike a passer rating to one oh four. He had a rushing touchdown as well. Kyler was out there today, same with DeAndre Hopkins. It is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul kelbc, Ron Wolfley after day one of Cardinal's camp at least out on that field. And well, if you're takeaways from Malcolm Butler, you know,

how about the propster coach Belichick. One thing you guys have in common. You both played for Belichick, and in his words, it was a great way to say said, you know what, you don't always like what he's telling you, but he's always right. Yeah, quote unquote that's what he said about Belichick. Yeah. I wouldn't say he's always right bell. I wouldn't say that, but he's got his opinions, there's

no doubt about it. Listen, It's interesting you start there because that's exactly my number one takeaway from that talk that we had with Malcolm Butler, because of Bill Belichick. What does it say when a player really gets along with Bill Belichick and respects him. Number One, he's a dog that's not a surprise. That's exactly what Malcolm Butler is. He's a dog meeting. He's he's a self motivated individual. He's a guy that a coach doesn't need to ride. He's a guy that you don't have to be rate

in order to get him to do his job. He's a self motivated, self starter type guy. He's a dog. Not only that he takes pride in doing his job that it tells me that that's who Malcolm Butler is. He takes a lot of pride in that polly. He lives for the details. Because Bill Belichick is a detailed guy. Walk in and talk about some guy in a certain situation, a down in distance, walk into the room and say, if you get this look, this is what is going

to happen on a single play. Bill Belichick would walk in and tell you exactly what was going to happen there. The details are important to Bill, and the details are important to Malcolm Butler, and he doesn't need words of affirmation. If you get along with Bill Belichick and you like playing for Bill Belichick and you respect him the way Malcolm Butler said, you know what, you don't need words of affirmation because you don't get it from Bill. I

love his story of how he made the Patriots. That along with the draft class, they had a rookie minicamp and there were forty undrafted guys they brought in. Two

made the team, one of which is Malcolm Butler. And here he is as an Arizona Cardinal nine seasons later, at thirty one years of age, with a Super Bowl ring, and there is going to be in Week one going against maybe their number one receiving duo in the NFL, at least if you believe some of the headlines you saw in the offseason with Julio Jones and aj Browne. And so now the Cardinals question is, all right, how

did he get to that point? How did they get to the point where the Titans are gonna ender that Week one game? Having led the NFL since twenty nineteen and touchdowns and plays of fifty plus yards and red zone TD percentage and rushing touchdowns. That's the sort of juggernaut this Titans offense has been the last two years. And Cliff Kingsbury was asked about that the next step not just for his offense, but for his quarterback, Kyler Murray.

You know, I think, more than anything, just consistency and everything we do. You know, he obviously got banged up a little bit last year and that was tough, but he battled through, and I just think all of us as an offense coaching staff have to continue to be consistent everything we do, and if he does that, he'll continue to get better. What do you think, Wolf, do you have a checklist on Kyler what you'd really like

to see this season? Yeah, Paulie, honestly I would. Of course, you'd like to see him get more consistent, There's no doubt about that. But I think, Paul, there's a big tangible area in an intangible area where I want to see him get better. The intangible is something that he's already been talking about this offseason. It's one of the things that really encourages me, the fact that Kyler Murray is already identified he needs to be a better leader. Paul.

That is so important that he's able to actually point at that and say, this is what I need to do in order to get better. I need to be a better leader. Because once you can identify it as a human being, forget about being a professional football player, forget about being a franchise quarterback as a human being, if you can point to the obstacle in your way, that need that you need to be able to overcome in order to get better. Man, that is so important,

and he's already identified leadership as that obstacle. Leadership is where he thinks he needs to get better, and he is right. That is the intangible. He's got to get better. He's got to be the face of the franchise always.

He's got to be talking to his players, talking to his line, talking to his wide receivers, talking to the running backs, talking to the coaches on the sideline, talking to them and encouraging them in regard to what they're doing on the field, some of the plays that they're running, the adjustments they need to make. He's got to be talking a little bit more. He's got to be the face of the franchise on and off the field. Leadership

is the intangible. The tangible is just reading defenses better and becoming more sure in his reads, going through his progressions and making good decisions. That's the tangible. Because remember what Sam Acho told us, who's now one of the ESPN analysts, And congrats to Sam the former Cardinals outside linebacker, and he told us this offseason, you're on the big red rage. That's what teams will do. It's exactly what

they did with Russell Wilson. Force him to go through his reads, keep them in the pocket, yes, make him beat him with what's between his ears to be able to read and react and diagnose a defense. So you have that and look, well, something was wrong down the stretch a year ago the XS and os. Maybe, okay, we can talk about that. But when you come out in Week sixteen with the playoffs on the line at home against the Niners team with third string quarterbacks CJ.

Bethard and a third string running back named Jeff Wilson who ran for a buck eighty three, Yeah, you know that's where a leadership, to me comes into play and you prevent that sort of letdown. You know, when you lead the league in penalties for example. In fact, Cliff Kingsbury was menting that here today, listen up. Offensively, we led the league install drives due to penalty and that's I think we're a top six offense. And had we not done that, who knows what it could have been.

You know that that's a lot of drives to give up throughout an NFL season with limited possessions, so there's no questions. Little things we'd happen every day that we gotta get better at. And look, the coaches take the blame and Cliff Kingsbury did the same. But if it's a pre snap penalty, to what degree is that on the players? Bawl? Yeah, Paul. First of all, it's all on the players. It is. I don't care you get hit for a holding call, that's on you, all right. Yeah,

the off side discipline is so important. It's interesting because we started this beautiful part of the program with you asking me, you know what's a Bill Belichick and you know Malcolm Butler? What what does that say about Malcolm Butler? We were talking about this very thing. The other thing that I forgot to mention is Bill Belichick love guys,

PAULI that commit penalties. Guy, Guys that were disciplined, Guys that didn't go out there and take shortcuts, put himself in a bad position where suddenly they had to hold as an offensive lineman or as a dB a bad technique, using a jam technique and then missing on that jam and then having to hold and get a penalty on that he liked guys that didn't get flagged for penalties, guys that were disciplined. And it's interesting because nobody knows

that better than Cliff Kingsbury. I think Cliff this year, if there's one area I think he's really going to improve with, it's gonna be the Hey, listen, you know what, Your playing time is going to be greatly impacted if you commit penalties. You know, I did this Seattle thing earlier in the week. I looked at one of the

game summaries Cardinals at Seattle. That game they lost. Remember there was the brutal Drake Kirkpatrick flagrant foul penalty where they had a stop on thirsty team continue to drop. In addition to that, there were four false start penalties against the Cardinals offensive line. Wolf there were no fans in the stands yea, the place false start field was empty and the Cardinals committed four false starts as an offensive line in the game. That's the kind of inexcusable stuff,

brutal ball. And by the way, when they bring into Rodney Hudson and he wasn't flagged for a single penalty in twenty twenty and the man hasn't had a false start. Write this down possible and knock on wood since two thousand and sixteen. The new starting center. Two time pro bowler Rodney Hudson has not been flagged for a false start since two thousand and sixteen. There's a cause and effect there when Steve Kim made that trade. We wrap

up the Big Red Race presented by Santan Born and Gilbert. Next, it's a run play right inside the Big Hole Edmonds twenty five twenty ten five touchdown the inside zone being run and Chase Edmond's farm. The hole, if to the house, Baby gives it to Connor, sweeps the left side, got him at the tam Connor to the five into the touchdown.

James Cotter explosive. Just the weapons that we have, Chase doing this thing already, and so you know, watching film, I'm like, man, just do he can he can ball And I want to, you know, learn from him, be a part of it, get to work with him. You know, I ain't no telling, I can't predict not him, but I know I can guarantee I'm gonna come in here and work the day in and day out from my head down to grind and you know, I'm in it for the long cost. So seventeen game season, I'm looking

forward to it. And it's James Conner on the Cardinals array of weapons, the offensive potential two twenty one, a two headed running game. Perhaps we'll see that's all being decided over the next month. Cardinals Campus underway. We're wrapping up this edition carts Camp edition of Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We are Satan Ford, Paul kalbc Ron Wolfley Special thanks again to our guest earlier,

Malcolm Butler. Wolf When you look at the offensive side of the ball, and I know you had your eyes on the backfield today, number six, James Conner, and the stakeaway is Okay, there's the big back, the big back the Cardinals now have at their disposal, whether it's third

and short, whether it's inside the five. You just you can't help but daydream as you're watching Cardinals practice, even though the pads aren't going to come on for another half week or so, But just thinking of the possibilities with a big back like James Connor. Yeah, six one two thirty two, Paul, how's that taste right there? You know? And I love that. I love the fact that they're going to run some inside zone with him. Hopefully they're going to run some tackle zone with him as well.

But I think in terms of training camp, in some of the position battles, I do believe James Conner and Chase Edmonds. Yes, you're gonna use both these guys, we know that, But I wonder what that rep ratio is going to be, Paul, Is it going to be more Chase Edmonds? Is it going to be more James Conner? You and I have been talking about this. I don't know what that rep ratio is going to be. But I think as the offense evolves in as preseason unfolds,

I think we'll get a better idea. Could it be that Chase Edmonds is your guy between the twenties and then here comes James Connor once you get into the red zone. Could it be that Chase Edmonds gets the bulk of the touches the first three quarters and then the fourth quarter when you want to wear down a defense, especially if you have a lead, then you bring in the big, bruising back, James Connor. Yeah, Polly, it could

be something that elementary. It could, but It's going to be interesting to see the way they divvy that up. And not only that, when James Connor is in there, Polly, what is the run pass ratio? When Chase Edmonds is in there? Polly, what is the run pass ratio? Because this is what defensive coordinators do. They just break you down by personnel groups, by formation, Paul, they break everything down. And what kind of tendencies do you have, because everyone's

looking for tendencies. That's going to be an interesting tendency to watch. What do they do when James Connor's in there, and what do they do when Chase Edmonds in there? And how much does that differ from each other? Cliff Kingsbury was asked. In fact, I followed up and asked him today just about some of those position battles, and you know, where does he think those are going to play out and what questions does he want answered by the time he gets to the end of camp. Here's

the head coach. Every position to me, each year is a new battle, you know, to see who steps up, who kind of grabs the starting role and runs with it. We get some great young guys who we think have a chance to really step up and you know, make the roster and make an impact. But every position group this year has been upgraded, and so I'm interested to see how it kind of plays out beyond running back Wolf. Where are you looking? Right guard, the corner opposite Malcolm Butler?

Would you say those are the next biggest and best position battles? Yeah? For me right now, I don't think there's going to be a position battle the corner opposite of Malcolm Butler. If Robert Alfred is healthy, If he's healthy, I don't think there's anything such as a position battle. That's just me Paul. Even watching him today make plays, he was once again really really good. Now granted it's practice, I understand that, but very very impressed with Robert Alfred.

I would have to say right guard reich guard be on a shadow of a doubt. I think Justin Murray, of course, Brian Winters, the guy they signed from the Buffalo Bills and brought him in, a grizzled veteran, a guy that's a mall or a guy that's a slug fest guy. At reich guard, I think that is going to be a big battle with Justin. Maybe maybe you throw in Josh Jones into the mix, even though I still think he's more a candidate to play on the edge,

play left tackle, play right tackle. Somewhere in there, Josh Jones is a guy that maybe they want to get him reps and they move him in at that Reich guard. I don't know defensively, how much is Lucky Foe too gonna play or how much is We're Shard Lawrence going to play Pollie? What is their rep ratio going to be? Like? Right there? This is these are all things. It's not just about who starts and who doesn't start. It's also

who gets the vast majority of reps as well. So it's playing time that a lot of these guys are competing. And having said that, it made me think of today and just watching AJ Green go out there and run. Polly. I'm listen, We're not going to say anything about AJ Green. This is a guy that has proven he is one of the best receivers in the National Football League when he is healthy. He's done that for years. He is

getting a little long in the tooth. But I will tell you right now, I saw this guy and I was shocked at how well he ran. That's what everyone told you he's slowing down. He's slowing You know what, paul, I didn't see a guy slowing down. I don't know about you, but I saw him run today. And guess what. There's a need for aj Green on this team. DeAndre

Hopkins had one hundred and sixty targets. He had thirty four percent of the receiving yards in that receiving room, which is the highest percentage of any receiver in any team. DeAndre Hopkins line up on the left side according to Next Gen Stats, ninety one percent of the time. So Cliff Kingsberry needs some more options at receiver. He needs guys who will get yards after catch and other than DeAndre Hopkins and Chase Edmonds. There was very little of

that last year, No, Paula, you're right about that. Again. You have to wonder how much no huddle will they go with this year, Cliff Kingsberry, what about that off tempa with no movement whatsoever? Right spreading out DeAndre Hopkins. You're gonna move him around. You're gonna put him on the right side of the formation as opposed to the left side. What are you gonna do with how much end personnel, how much four wide will we see. Yeah,

these are all just some of the questions. We have three weeks of practice at camp, you have three preseason games, and we're just getting started. Thanks again to Malcolm Butler's CB one for the Arizona Cardinals. Jim Almahandro, Executive producer and technical director, Jeff darch Ron Wolfley on Paul Calvec. This has been the Big at Rage presented by Santanford and Gilbert. We are Santanford Number one. You've been listening to the Big Red Rage presented by Santanford in Gilbert.

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