Big Red Rage - Building The Offensive Line

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We all have questions. The entire league wants to know Wolf They demand answers, and we're starting to get them slowly, but Sureley. Derek Card to the Saints, Geno Smith staying with the Seahawks, Aaron Rodgers to the Jets, d Hop Traded imminent, Zach Allen Byron Murphy about Kelvin Beach and Will Hernandez. What is their future as the key marquee Cardinals free agents? These answers are starting. We even just got the answer on the compis for the Arizona Cardinals

in the twenty twenty three drafts. So all that combined with everything we saw at the combine and what's been going on in fact, wolf if you don't bring it in this addition to the big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, we are santan Ford and momentarily it'll star Lorenzo Alexander, former Cardinal. If you don't bring it in this addition, Ron Wolfley, I'm just gonna start reading the combined results from Anthony Richardson because I think

those are entertaining. When the guy has bigger hands than DeAndre Hopkins. Yes, yes, that is incredible, right there, Paula. Honestly, Anthony Richardson, this is a guy. It's it's combine, it's combine time, and this is a guy that I think is going to benefit greatly from the combine. I've heard some cuts on him that are just laugh out loud funny right now, Scouts talking about him, coaches talking about Anthony Richardson, so many of them saying, this guy, his traits,

his traits, his traits are incredible. But then you watch the film and you wonder, you know, and that's the combine and that is the conundrum. Hey, rich eisenshow earlier this week quoted a rumor that Eisen the chair of all the combine coverage in NFL network, where he says he's here in scouts saying and personal guys saying they wouldn't be surprised if Anthony Richardson goes number one overall.

And you know what, that's good for business if you're the Arizona Cardinals, because our marketing mantra is AZ needs three. You need three quarterbacks up top, Bryce Young, CJ. Stroute, hopefully Anthony Richardson. And then the Cardinals have a choice. Do they take oh maybe a Will Anderson who would still be on the board, or they trade out. We'll get into all that right now. Let's talk about where

the Cardinals are as of this week. As of the last couple of days, as Jonathan again and the brand new head coach, was introducing his brand new assistance, and we do mean brand new. A lot of new names and faces and a lot of college experience mixed with some NFL experience on this staff. And here's the head coach on the makeup of his staff. I felt really

good about the experience in this room. Guys that have done their job at a very high level, Guys that were there is no doubt in my mind after talking to him for however long I talked to him that they were ready to take the next step. And that's kind of you know, how I made decisions with the staff as I was looking for the right coaches and the fit of that altogether. Who are the best coaches

for the Cardinals? And that's what we did. If a team takes on the identity of its head coach, I tell you what, this staff takes on the personality of Jonathan Gannon. A lot of energy in that room and a lot of youth twelve coaches under the age of forty Ron Wolfleywood. What do you make all that? You know, it's amazing, Bully. It really is a lot of young coaches right now getting the opportunity to come into the National Football League, stay in the National Football League, of course,

and develop. And to me, it's very, very exciting. The reason why I say that Polly is because the head coach is really important. There's no doubt about it. The head coach to a young player has a huge impact on him as a pro. But in terms of being a better player, your position coach has a bigger impact on you than an offensive coordinator, a defensive coordinator, and a head coach most of the time, generally speaking, Polly, that position coach is going to be so vital in

the development of a younger player. And that's what I can't wait to see here these position coaches, of course, that he has assembled, and the impact they're going to have on this team. And I would imagine, Paulie, I don't know about you, but I would imagine this team is probably going to get younger over the next couple of seasons, absolutely, and you know what, this staff will

reflect that. And this staff shouldn't have any problem relating to those younger players because it is the younger staff. But they have the benefit of being very experienced at the college level, a lot of them. And here's Jonathan g In and talking about that. I think that the expertise that some college guys have is they've lived in that world of how to exploit a defense or how to defend certain quarterbacks with certain skill sets like that.

So there's a reason why pro coaches every spring have college staffs come in and they clinic them teach us this, so you know, and that goes on pretty regularly. So very happy how this staff came together with the different types of expertise that we brought in. Isn't that interesting? Only recently have I come to realize the extent at which high school football can impact college, and then the college game and schemes can impact the NFL. It sort

of trickles up in a way. Yeah, PAULI very interesting cut right there from Jonathan Gannon because I agree with what he've said. But I will tell you right now that I think over the last couple of seasons, we've seen that pendulum swing about as far right to the new age, the new offense, the new wage offense, and the college offense, and I think it's swinging back more towards the middle right now. Polly, this is something I've

talked to you about. I think there are people that are starting to believe that you have to blend the old and the new together. It's it's something I've been talking about for three years. I think it's what the Arizona Cardinals have got to do. It's one of the reasons why Jonathan Gannon came here and said we got to take Kyler Murray and put them more center. That's where this offense can evolve the most. And I agree with him one hundred percent. So I think that pendulum

is coming back just a little bit. What's interesting is you talk to a lot of these position coaches. In some coaches, you know, there's some nons. They have guys in the room. Other coaches. If you're the offensive line coach, I mean, think about who's under contract. DJ Humphrey's, Josh Jones, and then the two rookies from a year ago. Listen to Smith MARKI says, that's it. You know, you look

at for example, Patrick Tony, the DB's coach. Okay, he's got his two stalwart safeties there in Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson, and then you have a Marco Wilson. But there's a lot to be determined for then that defensive backfield. So the question of Patrick Tony, the new DBS coach and last year was co defensive coordinator at Florida, what exactly the coach is doing right now. I think we're

all catching up on the current personnel on our team. Obviously, you gotta know your roster first, doing a good job watching the personnel around a league, you know everyone, you know, I want to see what everyone's doing in the league, studying college prospects to prepare for the draft. And then as well as as a defensive staff getting together and you know, coming together collaborating on how we're gonna put this thing together with coach Rollis, coach Gannon, you know.

So it's been a lot of fun. And remember, as a new staff, you get extra time in the off season, So when April gets going, you're going to be out on that grass. You're gonna have extra time to work with some of the players you free agent acquisitions. And I know, Wolf, I mean, what comes to mind you think is most critical for this new staff to instill

once they actually get the players in the building. Yeah, that is a great That is a great question, PAULI right now, And once again I think Nick Rawlis of course and Drew pet Sing, the two coordinators are really going to have an awful lot to do with setting the tone as to what kind of schemes you want to run, what kind of schemes you project players actually fitting into and excelling in, what kind of schemes, and what kind of player that you're looking for. I think

they're going to set the tone going forward here. And even though the position coaches can have a bigger impact on a guy's career, these coordinators right now are going to have to find guys that fit into their scheme or take that scheme and blend it with the talent that you actually have on the roster right now. But the next couple of weeks will be huge in the type of players, of course, that you're going to identify. And they've already done this, Paul. They've sat around the

big rectangle. They know what kind of free agent they're going to look for and go after and try to actually sign. And when it comes to the draft, a lot of these coaches come from the college game, and so the personnel guys will go over to the college coaches heyd you match up against player X at any point in the last two or three years, and so

they can give benefit there. And then if I'm a defensive coach, this is just me thinking out loud, I'm spending time watching the Rams offense and the forty nine ers offense getting no Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan, and then Gino Smith is back in Seattle. So I'm guessing you've got to familiarize yourself if you're new to the team with the division, right, especially if you're a defensive coach,

these offenses come in your way. But the biggest thing, though, Pauline, you already touched on this is actually these position coaches getting to know their guys, the guys that are coming back. I think of Clayton Adams, the new offensive line coach. You mentioned DJ Humphreys and Josh Jones. You mentioned that this is going to be an overhaul on that offensive

line right now. Boy, that is going to be a good thing for Clayton Adams to go out and get the type of individual he wants for that offensive line, the offensive line he envisions along with Drew Petzing and jg Hey. We mentioned the compics. It's official. Cardinals get a third round pick for Christian Kirk. They get a fifth rounder her Chandler Jones, and a sixth rounder for the departure at Chase Edmonds. Lorenzo Alexandra's next on the big red rage shotgunset for Matt Ryan Hazard drops the

pass looks deep. Instead, he is sacked and he goes down to the twenty five yard line and Alexander there for Arizona. Raford takes throws to the right, patted down incomplete. Lorenzo Alexander got a pawn. It knocked it down and it was knocked down. Lorenzo Alexander doing a good job being alert. That was a smart play by Alexander. Prussia in the pocket and Grady goes down. Lorenzo Alexander took a sweep at the ball and then came down to

the second sack of the night. You know, Wolf, if only we could talk to a guy who could hit on all the headlines, you know what I mean, a former Cardinal who's been there and done that. You know, he's played for a first year head coach. He's it was all about getting pressure on the quarterback. He's gone to a Pro Bowl with twelve and a half sacks.

You know, it's the Cardinal's biggest need. He's been through free agency in the draft process, right, I mean, was was even teammates with Aaron Rodgers once upon a time and you know it might have an opinion or two on accountability. You know, the big buzzword this offseason, who might Lorenzo Alexander might be the guy who joins us now in the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert we are, satan Ford, Zoe, what's going on?

I'm doing a good man. I thank you for having me on and uh always happy to talk about with you guys. Zo, you also got paid, did you not? You got paid, didn't you? Yeah? I got paid a couple of times. Not a true special teamer, though they didn't pay you like they should have. It's all relatively speaking, you know. I you know, I had a great career, blessed multiple times. So no regretsive mine at all. It's

why he's coaching. It's why he's coaching use sports right now by design his own kids, Wolf, you know, it gives him that luxury to do it right exactly. It's all right. So tell us about the whole dynamic of plane for a first year head coach. Let's start with that Once upon a time twenty thirteen. You came in with Bruce arians Cardinals are starting to do with Jonathan Gannon. You know, what do you think maybe his biggest challenges

or what's most critical for Gannon? Let me take it a step further, PAULI, I probably placed for four first time you know head coaches or first or new head coaches. You know about Jim Zorn, I had games on when

I was in Washington. Obviously my chan hand had done it in a long time and and Invert, but he was the first time head coach as far as Washington I had to do deal with obviously be A being the first time head coach, and then Sei McDermot, so actually three first time head coaches and had to go

through the process for a different times. So I'm definitely willing in depth as far as the process and what that looks like and the biggest thing from a player's perspective, it all depends, you know, if you're a young guy, you know, a bubble guy, you just your head. Damn, he's trying to make an impression as far as what you need to do as far as to make the football team. You know, you can care about all the

politics and what the scheme is. You just trying to look out for yours and make sure that you have a spot at the end of the day when camp is over. But as you get older, as you begin to grow in his league and right, and you create some type of stability. Right and understands this. You know, your special team or a low draft guy, you never really quite get comfortable. But obviously some guys are more comfortable than others. UM, And you're really looking at the

consistency of the head coach. Right, he talks about UM culture people, UM thing he's going to implement, and so how does that look like? You know, from top down? He holding the best parent team to say what he's hold the bubble guys accountable. Right, There is a continuity there and we all know that player tree is slightly but at the core, if everybody held to the same UH standard, Um, how does how is he able to UM impact the room when he walks in there and

gives a speech right or lays down his standard? Are people locked in or people taking I'm serious? Or people understanding what he's communicating? Right? Because there's a big, big gap between you having a vision h you having certain principles that you want to implement, and being then able

to communicate those well so that players receive it. And adopt it for their own, you know, well being so that they can kind of embody who you are and reflect who you are as a head coach, and those are partly the top two things that you look for initially. And then as a player, you know, how does he handle adversity, what happens because coaches always say, hey, become you know, you know, never too high, ever too low.

But when their feet are held to the fire, when they make a mistake, how do they respond themselves and actually embodies the message that they've been giving off? So um, I think that's kind of the maybe the top three things. And there's obviously a ton of other things that you can look at as well, but those are the things that I tend to gravitate it too. I want to those different transitions from myself, so so Jonathan Gannon of course the other his coaching stuff right now. And I

know that it's different with each player. But from your experience, did a head coach have a bigger impact on your career or did a position coach have a bigger impact on your career? Wow? I would say when I was younger, it was definitely a position coach because that's who I spent the most time with Yep, that's who impacted me

every day, Right, That's what was corrected me. Who's really got to know maybe be more intimately because obviously he's just worried about you know, depend on what room you're in, maybe three to two US guys versus the head coach is more worried about the collective and obviously and then the head coaches tend to gravitate towards the leaders and captains of the team. So as I got older, right, especially when I ended in Buffalo in my Age Man show,

were a lot closer. It's more like an older brother age gap versus a father's son age gap. So when I got to Buffalo, Shan had a much more a greater anac just based on who I was and where I was in that stage of my life, being able

to play until I was thirty six thirty seven. But to ask you a question, generally, it's the position coaches, and so you want to make sure those guys really know how to coach ball, really know how to communicate your message, and are going to keep guys accountable to the standard that you was kind of set forth as a head coach. Hey, when Nick Rowlis showed up right twenty nine years of asia Cardinals defensive coordinator. He was younger than fifteen players who were on the roster at

that time. Think about that. Lorenzo Alexander is our guest on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. Fifteen years in the league, two time Pro Bowlers. So I'm putting it to you. I'm just going for the jugg lear Right now, Cardinals are sitting there at number three, and they're Wayne will Anderson or a big haul from a team wanting to trade up and take Oh, I don't know, Anthony Richardson, just throw that name out there. I asked Drew stan the same question earlier this week,

former Cardinals quarterback. He said, I'm taking will Anderson every time. I don't care about two more first round picks. What do you say? Yep, it comes down to him. And you know I'm not a college guy. I'm gonna watch a ton. I hear the names right in Melanderson is a big buzz name for everybody around the country. And so if you believe that he's in the same elk as Don Miller and Aaron Donald and he's a generational

type players, you take it. I mean, it's just it's it's there's no way you can make up for those type of players with multiple picks. But I also see Buffalo Bills trade back right and pick up Josh Allen and trade Tremaine Evans to high quality six right. They were so they weren't seen as generational players, but those guys helped establish the Buffalo Bills culture right and have made them a perennial playoff team and have contended for

the last four or five years. So if you're able to do something like that, if you don't see Bill Anderson at the generational type guy, maybe there's another d lineman or maybe a corner that is just act impactful but maybe doesn't have the same buzz and you feel like you can get him at maybe you know ten or eleven, you pick up another first round picking in

the process. Maybe maybe you do that as well. So, I mean, there's two ways to look at it, But it always comes down to how you evaluates a guy and if he has headed shoulders better than the rest and he's projected to be you know, uh, let's say at twelve to sixteen, sack guy here, you got to take that guy because at the end of the day, impacting the QB at a high rate he's with helps defenses,

especially in his day and age in the NFL. So, so as you look at the Arisonta Cardinals getting ready to go into free agency, the legal tampering of course at looms does it not? It is coming up here quickly. Where do you see the result? What's that? Yeah? Right? The godbye? You're right, Yeah, that's exactly where it's happening. You got that, right, But you know how that goes.

But you know, as you look at it right now, what do you think the general strategy is going to be for the Arisonta Cardinals going into this free agent period um? You know, looking at where where the coaches have been has come from and what they had in Philly and even Aaron Kelvin speak yesterday on or the other day or on the radio. You know you're looking from veteran guys and can obviously that can help you

establish your culture. But you know I'm looking at interior or the interior or the front the lines, right, can I be how can I dominate the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball and we look at the Philadelphia Eagles. The reason why they made it to the championship getting last years because they were able to do that at a high rate better than anybody else pretty much other than eighty five. Theres right, it's on the defensive side and that big old line with ball

in folks. So you're trying to identify guys that, I think, because that's where it starts. But then you also want to make sure that you have pos right Kelvin Beechams, you got to get a couple of those guys in year to help to help you get your culture to where you wanted to be collectively from top from top down that are going to really be able to communicate in the locker room what you want. And so you'll

probably see a couple of Eagles. I know. When I'm Buffalo, we had it felt like we were the passers of the North Right. We had about four or five Panthers, and every year they felt like Carolina Panther. But that's because Sean knew those guys right. He understood that they knew his coach and they knew his way, and they helped the assimilation process into this new regime and new culture and so if you can add a couple of

guys like that, obviously guys aroandom league. I remember we brought in Micah Hyde, Jordan poy Types and Buffalo right that were were probably they weren't household names, but they've

turned into them. So being able to identify guys like that that are on the cusp where other chiems can't maybe pay them, but are ready to take that leap, but then are also great professional So that's that's kind of what they probably looking at right now, and seeing anial type of con gostics that they can take advantage of being on creating market. Seeing that alleviates I think

the big fear of free agency. You may not know a guy, but if you have a coach who's actually familiar with that player and he comes from like that coach's former team. You know, the Cardinals took a big swing and missed on Jordan Phillips a couple of years ago trying to bolster that defensive line. So I mean, in general, right, how risky is free agency in your opinion?

I mean, it's it's risky to a stand and most people know players, right, and I think a lot of times you win the mistakes vantage because you get enamored with the potential of what a guy can do and not when he's showed you that who he isn't what he's done right. And and sometimes a guy they but thrive and they have some character issues because of the support system around him. But when Jordan was brought here for that example, he was asked to lead, I don't

know if he was spending to do that, right. I think in Buffalo he Williams in that room and myself, we have some other guys where he can just be himself and do what he can do. So you have to make sure if you're asking a guy to change his role from a leadership standpoint, if he has some you know, some football character issues, um, if he ready

to be a nine now right. I think oftentimes we bring in guys and we ask them to be something that necessarily not ready four or having grown into and so that is always I think the biggest thing when you look at the three agents that typically don't work out, are you using the same way or do you have

a different vision? And then if you're ready to be the leader that you need to be um, And then there's just sometimes you should never bring in just because of of of you know, past history of batting happening or injuries happening. But you said, well, I'm a great coach, I can fix it. I'm probably not if it's been an issue anywhere that player has been so so um, I'm gonna ask you a producer question right now. Okay,

the good news is for the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, the good news is they can sign all four of the next guys that I'm telling you about. But a producer is gonna say, if you could have one that you would want some who would it be Zach Allen, Kelvin Beecham, Byron Murphy, or Will Hernandez just one Zoe. I might have to go with man Man you always and and And I'm stuck between Zach Allen and Kelvin. That was my guy. I know what type of impact he has on that team, and I don't quite know what type

of leaders that's Allen is so but he's younger. You gotta go with Zach Allene. I'm not. I'm seeing because I'm fired too because I wanted that guy just because the guy's younger. But you're thinking about production on the field. Ye, I'm thinking about how does how does the um A team work? Inly, you move a Kelvin Beecham from off that team and you open up several different holes that you want the call before. But all you worried about us he's gonna be backing the quarterback on on Sunday.

But that may not even matter because there's a lack of leadership in the locker room and your four innth wel right, and so it's not if easier clear cut? Is that so? We? I think? You know, sometimes when you build a team, can't always go with who's younger, who's gonna the most production, especially when you're doing what a guy like calling beach and in the league for I don't know for three years now. Um as A is a is a strongholder as a left tackle, right

tackle play played. Its gonna lead other guys. Who's gonna help these other guys on board to play above himself? That stuff matters. And then you'd be like, damn, we got tackle, Yeah, what's going on? Why of our team the way it is? Oh, you are the best man. We're gonna let you go because you gotta call your former team at Aaron Rodgers telling to make a decision because the whole league year is hinging on Aaron Rodgers. He's the domino where everything's gonna fall. So Zo, thank

you very much for the time. We'll talk to you. Down the road is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert we Are. Santan Ford, I want a good job at a point of attack right there and say like DJ Humphries, got a nice block, huge hole. Great job by d J Humphreys at the part who has that looking there? I have no back down? You know, that's the dust the part I think I'm looking forward to most when that fighter flat comes. Who's gonna swing, who's gonna run? You know what I mean? I want

a bunch of swingers. So I missed it. That's sound the weird. I'm sorry that was stretch. That was so strange. I want I want a bunch of fighters. I should have said I want a bunch of fighters. So this, like I said, though, that's the part I'm looking forward to most, not the swinging part that was That was a little strange. I'm sorry. I guess we leaped that out. He wants fighters, not swingers. He wants to specify that former player host of the Big Red Rage DJ Humphries.

It really doesn't need the media or the either one of us, really. I mean, he just sort of his personality sort of carries things on its own. As you saw right there. I love the percussion and the deep bass because that kind of kind of sums up DJ Humphries. Game over there, left tackle, does it not? Ron Wolfley? I mean yes, especially this beautiful part of the program. To Polly, we're some base man, yep, talking old line. You're talking Djambrey Special. Thanks Lorenzo Alexander. And what sort

of teammate would you like? Because I tell you what, it's fill in the blanks from left or right. You got your left tackle and a lot of undecided, undetermined positions and names right now. What do you think maniasa boor Jonathan Gannon? What sort of offensive line are the Eine boy? That is? Paul? It is so interesting to me.

I don't know what it is. I know that they obviously have an idea as to what the offense is going to look like, and that means they have an idea as to what the schemes are going to look like as well. I think of the Cleveland Browns. I think of Drew Petson coming from the Cleveland Browns, Paul, and I think of their offense and their offensive line specifically. I think this is just my opinion. I think the Cleveland Browns offense of line is the best offensive line

in the AFC. I think overall, I'd say the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line is the best in the NFL. But to me, in the AFC, I would say that the Cleveland Browns had the best offensive line. And that is fascinating to me because Paully that offense plended the old and the new, and they did it as well as anybody in the National Football League. Is that what they're

going to try to reproduce here, I don't know. I tell you the importance of the old line has never been greater or maybe more evident than this last season. Think about it. Philadelphia is in the Super Bowl, Kansas City. What do they do from the loss in the AFC Championship Game to their Super Bowl victory. They fixed the offensive line. Obviously, quarterback and they get to the quarterback I know with Kansas City, but they fixed the offensive line. That was a liability. You look at a team like

the Cold strapping right behind the Cardinals. What's the difference between the Colts team this past season and like two years ago, the offensive line went from one of the best to one of the worst. And so DJ Humphreys obviously is the answer right now the franchise left tackle. In fact, Jonathan Ginn and new on the job, already knows enough to say as much about DJ Humphreys. I have a very high opinion of DJ. I know Clayton and Chris are ready to work with him. He's been

a really good player for a long time. Had to go against them a couple of different times, and he's a tough matchup for outside edge players in the pass and run game. And he's got phenomenal football character. And you know, he's a guy I've already leaned on since I've been in the job to gain some information and pick his brain a little bit, and he's been great with me. So excited that he's on the Arizona Cardinals.

We've seen some of the all access video of the new head coach, Jonathan Gann and talking with DJ Humprees on Cardinals flight plan. You can check it out in the YouTube channel. Here's the other thing to me, This is just me the underrated position. If you're gonna target someone or something in free agency and go big, I would look at center wolf. Did we not get a renewed value and what an elite center does for a team in that one year, the first year of Rodney Hudson,

he really just elevated the entire offense. Did he not? No, he did, Bolli, there's no done. Yeah, you're right about that, and it's one of the reasons why. And we've talked about this name, but Ethic the center for the Cleveland Browns. He's a free agent, Ethan Posic. It's interesting because Nick Harris was their starting center, but he got hurt in

the first preseason game I believe. Don't hold me to that, but I think it was the first preseason game, got hurt, and then Ethan took over a guy that had been in the league of five years that this was his six year this past season, of course, but he had been in the league five years with a Seattle Seahawks. He actually took over as center and did an outstanding job at center. Right now, I know the Cleveland Browns

won him back, but that's a guy right there. If you were gonna say, we're gonna go out and we're gonna get a pros pro. Maybe not a big name, maybe not a guy that is going to break the bank, but we're gonna get a pro. We're gonna get a guy that won't get our quarterback killed, that's gonna go out there and do the job and know what to do and be prepared. Ethan Posic would be that center

to meet Paul, and he's in his prime. He's a former second round pick twenty seventeen, and he has a connection to the new offensive coordinator Drew pet Scene right, yes, exactly, And you know what also to Paul, I want to say this because we were talking about it momentarily and the last beautiful part of the program actually was the first beautiful part of the program. But Clayton Adams. Clayton Adams is the offensive line coach for the Arizona Cardinals.

In what's so interesting about this, there's a lot of would you say there's open spots on the offensive line, Paulli, it's almost it's almost fun. It's like five card pickup, maybe making four card pickup. I mean, Paulli are going to rebuild this offensive line and Clayton Adams can actually try to have some say on the types of individuals he wants to coach and the types of players he

wants to bring in. Because he wants to run this kind of scheme, whatever scheme that may be, he's going to be able to kind of mold that offensive line. And I think that's really a rarity for a position coach. Well, Jonathan gain and the head coach has been asked, what type of offensive linement are you looking for? We have a skill set that we're looking for from all you know, the inside guys and the outside guys. And I know this.

We want high football character, guys that love to play football, and they're gonna be tough guys, and we want guys that finish people, move people. And probably the number one job, as I learned, better keep that quarterback up right, no doubt, no doubt. Well, I know what the Eagles they had to say, and it went something like this, you passed to score points, you run it to win. And so yes,

if that's the mentality, they're gonna need the physicality up front. Yeah, and Paul, just think about what you just said right there. You just described the Kansas City Chiefs winning the Super Bowl. You just described it right there what it was there doing.

But don't get me sidetracked. Okay, Paul, don't do that, because once again, going back to Drew Petzing, who's coming here is as the offensive coordinator coming from Cleveland, that Cleveland offensive line, Paul, they ran a very physical scheme with Nick Chubb. Now, Paul, I'm just saying Nick Chubb is is maybe the best running back in the National Football League. You could build You could build, yes, poly elite.

You could build an argument that says he is one of the best, if not the best running back in the league. You know what, James Connor is also a big dude who can run downhill. And I'm wondering if they're not going to go out and try to get guys like Whyatt Teller and Joel Bitonio. I'm wondering if they're not going to go out and try to get some guys who are very good in terms of the tackle zone and coming off the ball and taking their guts and sticking it all over some guy and moving

the gut with their butt. Paul, That to me is what I'm waiting to see. I can't wait to see the fingerprint of Manti Asenfort is going to be all over this team based on how he builds that offensive line in the defensive line, and then that will dictate the scheme. At least that was the answer from Jonathan gin And when he was asked about what sort of

offense and Cardinals might run. Yeah, as we're going through scheme meetings, you know, you start putting up a blueprint of how you want to play, and the people that we know are going to be here you start taking to that in account. But that takes some time. That's a process out on the grass in the meeting room. You know, we have some ways that we want to play offensive, defense and teams, but that will apt when at the dust settles and we see who's lining up

in a Cardinals jersey. So we will taylor fit our schemes and how we play on all three phases to the people that we have. And there's no doubt it'll be a learning process. There's gonna be a lot of

new players, it's a new staff. But at the same time, well, there has to be things that you do well, that's your identity, right, I mean, there's going to be a base defense there's got to be a go to on offense, right, those base set of place where you're like, look, it doesn't matter if you know what's coming or not, we're going to run these and execute them. Yes, Polly, I think just listening to JG right there, he's so right

on the money, he's right. Especially in that first year when you come in, Paul, You've got to find out what you have, What do we have under contract? This guy is a good football player. Okay, maybe he's not the perfect right guard for the kind of scheme we'd like to run, but this guy's a good football player, So we'll go ahead and will run schemes that he does well. Right, And then as you start to get into the next year, you start looking for guys that

will run the schemes you feel most comfortable with. So I think early on you're trying to say, hey, we're going to run the scheme that our players can execute. But as you develop a team, I think you're starting to look for guys that can run the schemes you like. And if you remember the first year for Nick Sirianni Jonathan Gannon when they showed up in Philadelphia, that team started in twenty twenty one, it was a four win team.

They started out two and five, two and six, and then they made a big run over the last two months of the season ended up into the playoffs. So there's that transition and transformation period. Hey joined the season ticket priority lists, select your seats before the general public. How about the opponents this year coming to town? That Cowboys, the Ravens, the Falcons, the Bengals, the Giants. Go to asy Cardinals dot com slash priority lists for more info,

more Big Red rage. Right after this Jackson play action throws complete Hollywood Brow the hazard at the thirty lg rates in the end zone. They won't catch him. Touchdown Ravens down the middle of the field, looking for Hollywood Brown. He's caught up Tompins thirty leg race twenty and he's gonna score Pollywood Brown deep down the middle. He's got to see to the end zone. Touchdown Willie Sneed on the receiving end. If Jackson backs up SLINKs at the

back of the end zone, he's got Myles Boykin. Touchdown Ravens. Jackson on the plate. Fate drows to Grecardo the coal line and a fullback is in from a touchdown. Unbelievable. He throws his fifth touchdown of the after doo about Ravens Radio Jerry Sandusky right there, one of a trio of five touchdown games in his two thousand nineteen MVP campaign.

Lamar Jackson one of six players who got the franchise tag this year, Ron Wolfley, Deron Payne, Tony Pollard, Josh Jacobs, sae Quon Barkley, Evan Ingram, and Lamar Jackson, who gets the non exclusive franchise tag, meaning effective next Wednesday, some t can come in potentially get a deal done with him two first round picks, and if the Ravens don't match, then boom, a former MVP quarterback in his prime might

change teams by this time next week. Your thoughts on that, yeah, Polly, Now, let me just go back to the people that actually got tagged. Six guys, three of them running backs, Paul, Yeah. Would you ever have expected that three running backs got the franchise tag? They just don't know how to value them. It's so hard do you want to pay a running back long term? The shelf life is so short. Seemingly, it's so easy to get another one in the draft,

But then you value the one you have. I think there's just confusion on what to do about a running back long term, so they end up with a short term deal. Yeah. Not only that, Polly, I also think too because the cost of a franchise running back isn't prohibitive in any way, shape or form. And because of that it I think it's like this guy is really really Let's keep him. Let's put the tag on him

because it's not gonna kill us. Now with Lamar Jackson, very very interesting that he doesn't get the exclusive tag. He got the non exclusive tag, of course, but it's a tag nonetheless, and it's something that we may not see the end of yet. With Lamar Jackson, that's only

one season. Who knows what else he could have. And then you have the quarterback taken after Kyler Murray in the twenty nineteen draft, Daniel Jones win number six overall and at a stellar campaign last season, he gets four years, one hundred and sixty million, at least according to the agent. In terms of the real guaranteed cash, it might be more like according to a lease the sports business people, it's going to be far less than that. But he

got paid. Daniel Jones, Gino Smith stays in Seattle, Pete Carroll saying, oh, that doesn't preclude us from taking a quarterback at number five. But Gino Smith got paid as well Ron Wolfley, So the Cardinals will see Gino Smith twice a year for the next couple of years. Yeah, it's really interesting to me Geno Smith being back. That is amazing. If you look at the last five games that he played, he was really up and down in those five games, yet at the same time he had

a great year. I don't want to diminish him in any way, shape or form, but I thought they did give him an awful lot, especially in guarantees where you're talking about forty fifty million somewhere in there. Daniel Jones, I was really really surprised they put the franchise tag on him. They couldn't get something done with him. But the big one of all the quarterbacks right now, I can't believe Aaron Rodgers might actually take the Brett Farve path and go to New York, just as Brett Farve did.

What are the odds of that, Paul? That blows me away. Well, speaking of odds, I think I saw a stat where all of a sudden the favorite in states that you can legally wager the Jets all of a sudden the new Super Bowl favorite by fans, at least by betting handle by where people are putting their money. So they fully expect Aaron Rodgers to go to the Jets. And you know what, that is a loaded roster, is it not? Yes?

And we talked about this before once about a time when Brett Farve went to the Jets, allow this same scenario and the Cardinals played and lost badly to Brett Farb and the Jets. That year, that team was really good. They started like nine to three and then Brett Farb got heard and the bottom fell out. But man, Aaron Rodgers goes to the Jets. Look out, Yeah, no, I'm

with you on that. It's just amazing. That is a roster that I think is ready to win right now if they were to get the likes up an Aaron Rodgers. But can I also go back to Derek Carr, Paul Derek Carr as well going to New Orleans. This to me is very interesting because I see Dennis Allen as the head coach of the New Orleans Saints, and to me, I see a guy that wants to get back to a little bit more of what Sean Payton was doing

with the Saints. I'm talking about Sean Payton before he walked away from the Saints, going back to something a little bit more traditional. I think that's the offense Dennis Allen wants to get back to, and I think Derek Carr is the guy that can do that. And I think they're going to give the keys to the offense

to Derek Carr. What we hear in Vegas, especially that Week two game where the Raiders led twenty to nothing, that Josh McDaniels didn't give Derek Carr a lot of room to operate and make decisions at the line of scrimmage and change plays. At least David Carr's brother an NFL network has said as much. So we'll see what is Derek Carr at thirty one years of age and four Pro Bowls under his belt, what can he do

for that Saints offense. And what's also interesting is you're now hearing trade rumors out of LA and the Rams that the Rams are thinking about actually trading Matthew Stafford to which the gm less sneed stepped in today and said, no, we're not trading Matthew Stafford. These reports were trading Cooper

cup and or Aaron Donald. Not gonna happen. Okay, of course he's not saying anything about the other reports where Leonard Floyd, Jalen Rams or Alan Robinson might get dealt from France because because they're in cap hell right now, they are way over the cap. Yeah, they're way over the cap and they have no picks whatsoever. Think about that, Paul, Yeah, how does that make you feel? You know, but in

a top spot. But you know, speaking the division? Getting back to get back to Geno Smith for a minute. You know, you're right, the last half dozen games it was uneven. But on the season, he had thirty touchdowns, he had eleven picks, He led the league with a seventy percent completion percentage. He was a pro bowler. So now, all of a sudden, between the Niners and that Rams team, with Matthew Stafford coming back and then Geno Smith, he the NFC West is as formidable as it's ever been. Yeah,

now you're right, PAULI Geno Smith. I'm a big fan of Geno Smith. I really am. Who doesn't love to see a comeback story, and that's exactly what he did, coming back, of course, and playing the way that he did that he had an opportunity earlier in his career. He's been a lifelong backup for the most part, and then he got the opportunity to do it again, to start again, and he made the most of it. And I love it, Paul, because you know it's West virgian Yah.

It's West virgan yaw there. Just for that, I'm gonna give you the rumor Michael Silver through out there and a few others have as well, that brock Purty you hasn't had surgery yet on the elbow if he's not back in time. And they don't like Trey Lance and the way it's tracking that some expect the Niners to place a call to Tom Brady. How about that for the NFC West by the way, don't do it, Tommy, don't do it. Check out Flight Plan episode two. It's

gonna be next Wednesday at seven pm. That's right. It's all combine driven, it is all access. There's a ride along with the new GM moniasinport from Nashville. Sue Indie. Think about that episode one, A Cardinal's Flight Plan on the Cardinals YouTube channel As we Speak Special thanks to Lorenzo Alexander, the former Cardinal, Jim Almandra Cody Fincher for

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