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Ep. 580 - After producing one of his career-best performances in Week 4 against the Panthers, defensive lineman Zach Allen joined Paul Calvisi and Ron Wolfley to talk about his 2022 season to date, why he found so much success in Charlotte, Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles offense and much more. Plus, Calvisi and Wolf dive further into Sunday's matchup with Philly and discuss what can jumpstart the Cardinals offense early in games.

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Slash Podcasts. The Red Scene, Rising Guard, temperatureizing vision, flurring, rage taking over. Here's Paul Kelvici. I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready, and Ron will flat. It doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the fiar Hey, Yo, week goals. It's the big Red range over he is you know what I'm talking about? Ron Wolfley that it was a better effect ball. I don't know what you're talking about. We are the original

Thursday Night Football yo. And here in week five, let me tell you we got a Philly special for you. You think you're coming out to the AZ You're sizing up the stadium for Super Bowl fifty seven. We're cooking up that Philly special whiz of course, Bully, that's right. Don't mind the five. It's the Big Red Rage, all presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford and we are putting the big in a Big Red

Rage to night. Zach Allen joins us. Now, Zach, you grew up somewhere in the northeast, right, was it New England exactly? Yeah? Connecticut? Okay, so where is the Boston accents? Where's the chowd up? Where's the child? No accent of that. No, I was closer to New York. But I don't know if my girlfriend makes fun of me because I pronounced

certain words weird, but um yeah, nothing too crazy. But of course, sak you, I mean you like Philly key steaks and everything like that, right, even though you're for Boston. Of course. Yeah. I think I think everybody loves those. Yeah, yeah, do you like it? Whizz? Though? I mean that's I mean, that's the that's crucial. I still don't know what that means. Is that cheese? What does that ass? Paul? Okay, it's this cheese. They they literally spray on your sandwich. It's

pretty gross. Yeah, so good? Yeah, all right, well, I'll save you from that line of questioning there. I'm just gonna say this, wolf I think our man got ripped off from NESCY Defensive Player of the Week. The stink and Eagles have won that award three weeks in a row. It's hard to believe. But our guys coming off quite

a game, is he not? Ron Wolfie? When I say he had a sack, he had two quarterback hits, he had three passes defense, he had a tackle for loss, and he had six tackles for a guy who entered the game number two in ESPN's pass rush win rate, behind only Aaron Donald. How about that, Plants. It's pretty good right there, Paul Zach. How is the body feeling right now? Man? Are you drinking your milk? That's so important? Yeah, no,

but it feels great. Um, it's kind of crazy to believe it's already h you know, week five now, so yeah, but we feel good. Practice going well, so all good here and last time we had John just just reiterate, I mean, this is a far cry from what you were dealing with the last couple of months. A last season, right, tell us about what a Monday was like and what it took just to get on the game field the

end of last year. Yeah, last year. You know, it's thought that I was kind of dealing with the whole year, but especially kind of that last month or two was definitely U was a struggle. Um, you know, Mondays were probably my worst day just because everything wore off and you know, I couldn't walk really, and you know, I really wouldn't do anything until Friday. You know, I wasn't practicing. Was it Wednesday and Thursday? Friday? Just get a couple

of russ just to feeling. Really is a game time decision, you know, every single week. So but yeah, that's uh, you know, knock on wood. That's all behind and this year it's just going to be you know, up and up. Boy, that is so difficult right there. It was your ankle, was it not? Yeah? Yeah, my ankle was kind of an injury I was dealing with for a year and you had no ligaments really all everything kind of tore off on the outside. And then they also said tour

you know, basically everything on the inside. But I didn't feel the inside because the outside was hurt and so bad. So yeah, it was kind of you know, but luckily, you know, doctor Anderson in Green Bay, you know, he's the best of the best fixed it up and h yeah, I definite, honestly, it feels better than did before. You know, and if to me, Zack too, I thought you were good last year speaking of that forty eight tackles, you

had a sack, a pick, four passes defense. But this year I think you might be the most improved player on the team. What do you think, Yeah, I think it's just nice kind of you know, obviously year four you feel more comfortable. But on you know, you know, kind of with everything, it's you know, you don't have to think about oh the ankle, this, this, this, you know, your body's kind of you know, responding the way you wanted to. So, h yeah, I mean it's just been

you know, pretty good so far. Obviously, you know, I think, you know, myself and the team have a lot more to improve on and to show. Well, well, if you you asked Zach Allen that question. The media asked Cliff Kingsbury about Zach Allen and how he's been playing. Well, he's a guy that just has gotten bigger, stronger, faster, has really worked at his stick around here and and trained um with Buddy and been here one of those guys that done taken off season really just stays here

and works. And I think Coach Park has been really good for him. His style of coaching and technique really fits Zack's game and he's really come into his own and JJ being here has helped me to be able to learn from that gay how he plays and the intensity that he practices and works out has definitely helped him. What do you see it on film? When you watch yourself and you've talked about being you know, your own harshest critic, you know, what do you like? What don't

you like? What? What have you seen so far through four games? Yeah? I think, uh, you know, especially kind of compared to last year. Last year, I felt like I was playing a lot of flat footed and this year it's definitely just you know, trying to get up field, you know, get in the backfield every snap, be disruptive. So that's obviously been good, but um, you know, obviously want to just be more consistent with stuff like that.

You know, I think there's kind of been flashes and I think you know, we kind of talk in the room. You know, we've shown flashes through four weeks, but we haven't kind of put together, you know, a complete complete game you know, snap in and you know kind of something that you know is our standards. So which is you know, obviously you know you wish for it, but it's exciting, you know, to kind of gives you something to come in and every day and work towards. So, um,

it's been good. But uh yeah, obviously you know, for example, you know, I think everyone talks about win rate, but you want to get the sacks, you know, get in there faster. You're always trying to figure out to get their fast, their run game, trying to make more plays in the backfield, not just you know one two three yard games. So but you know those are things that you know, just keep working on hopefully they come. You know, you mentioned the sack right there, of course sack. Um,

what is your best pass for us? Move right now? Yeah? I think right now, honestly, it's I really like lining up as a two kind of square up on the guard. You know, I don't think a lot of guys you know, are big fans of it, just kind of being that far inside because you know, you got the tackle the guard in the center kind of that could all get a free shot on you. But you know, I kind of found a little bit of success with it last year and really try to work on it this year.

Just kind of squaring up the guards so he doesn't know if I'm going right or left. And then you know, luckily, you know, I'm a lighter guy, so I got some speed in there, and just trying to get past that hit. Well, and what your first sack of the season wasn't exactly some cheap sack and garbage time there. They were open in the second half, Cardinals are down ten three, it's third and five. They were at their own thirty and down goes Baker Mayfield. You just take us through. What

was the key there to getting home? Yeah, you know, we kind of showed a look that hopefully gets us five oh, which you know gives us all one on ones, and you know, luckily I have a one on one with the center, and you know, I expect myself to

kind of win those matchups. Um, you know, obviously this upcoming week, you know, you have a Hall of Fame center, so it's definitely going to be uh, you know, a challenge, but yeah, it's just kind of one of those things, throw and move and luckily it worked and you know, trying to bend that corner and get to Corbett. You know, it was amazing. Two Zach, Um, you were standing up if I recall on that? Were you not? Yes? Yeah, yeah you were. You were standing up? How's that feel?

I mean, that's got to be kind of cool right there as a defensive lineman, especially in the interior defensive lineman, and you're standing up over the center or that like a linebacker. That was kind of cool. Yeah, it's kind of you know, it's something I've actually been doing that since college. You know. It's just something that kind of create a little bit of space and a little bit

of confusion. You know, they don't really deal with a lot of you know, stand up noses, as you say, so, Um, just something that you know, make them think a little bit extra and you know, hopefully slow them down. Hey, Zach Allen is our guest in the Big Red Rage Colonel's defensive lineman Wolf. He leads the team in quarterback hits with seven, leads the team and tackles for loss with four. Leads the team and passes defensed with four.

I mean, what's next, You're gonna lead the team in interceptions? What's going on here? I mean the three bad it passes you had three and jj Ad two And then if I remember right, you said after the game, yeah that was by design. You guys saw something or implemented something, right, Yeah, I think it was just kind of, uh, you know, something that we preached all week. Um, you know, just

try to get the hands up. They do a lot of quick game, a lot of RPOs, so when that happens, you know, you're not necessarily going to get to the quarterback every snap, but there's still, you know, some ways to affect the game plan. And like I said, you know it worked out well for us. You know they have five in our rooms, you know obviously, Uh, you

know that affects the game big time. How how much of a point of emphasis was it all week long that you guys would go out and shut down that Carolina Pather's ability to run the ball the way that you guys did, because I thought you controlled the line of scrimmage from the very beginning. Yeah, I mean that's definitely kind of their bread and butter. I mean, you have, in my opinion, I think a top three back in the NFL and Christian McCaffrey. You know, kind of what

they proved on tape. You know, they were very dangerous with the run and something that we invested a lot of time in and it paid off. And you know kind of games like that, you know, especially since I've been here in my first three years, you know, we kind of felt that Carolina almost Hope, you know, bullied us a little bit, especially in the run game, and you know, we were kind of sick of that. And you know, luckily, I guess fourth times a charm and

it worked. I should have written it down in my game log. When did you wave exactly to the crowd when you waved goodbye? Was that the fourth and one middle of the fourth quarter and you batted the ball and then the booze rained down on Baker in the offense? Is that when you sort of waved the crack because they got a great still shot at you, Cardinals media, and it was on the Twitter account of you waving

goodbye to the fans. Yeah, I think that's when it was. Yeah, and then the booze ring game, Yeah, Yeah, I don't think I was a fan favorite after that. Yeah, that this defense really seems to be coming together and developing. Why are you guys playing gutter? Yeah? I think it's uh, you know, for a lot of us, it's our third fourth year in the scheme. Um, you know, we've kind of kept a lot of the same faces around for you know, ever since I've gotten here, and with you know,

VJ coming in, and you know, that's that's huge. You know, it's not like you're learning a new scheme every offseason. So you're in season. It's kind of like, you know where we have a menu of you know, so many plays and you know, we all feel really comfortable with that, so it's kind of just picking and choosing those. And you know, also just chemistry wise, I think that's you know,

really underrated. And you know, I think we know kind of how to play off each other, what guys like, what guys don't like, and um, yeah, it's paying off. What about from week one to week four? Where's been the biggest growth improvement been? You think in the defense? I just think execution. I think that first week was kind of you know, obviously not having preseason was probably you know, part of it, and you know, not really

having that those game reps with everybody. Um, but yeah, I mean just kind of I think we had a heightened sense of urgency in practice and you know kind of week by week we've been executing better, less m is hitting our goals higher. So um, yeah, I mean when when when you're you know, I think Bidge said it, you know, earlier in the year. Just you know, everybody doing their job just gives you a chance. If you have guys that are you know, out of position or

messing up, then you have no chance. So yeah, you know he also too, Were you miked up for this last game against Carolina? Yes? Yes, I was? Yahy Why are you laughing? First of all, do you enjoy that? Do you enjoy that? Uh? I don't know. This was only the second time I think I was, And I don't know. It's just you're kind of like thinking, like you know about what you're saying, and you know you don't want to get other guys in trouble because you

got the hot mic. So it's, uh, it's kind of stressful. You don't know what the final cut's going to be like when when it comes out, so um, but you know, if you know, we end up winning games because of it like that. You know, if there's some kind of you know, weird correlation to it, we can keep doing it. But yeah, he put the mics on somebody else. I think, do you have editorial control over that, like as you talk him? No? No, no, no, you're not. You're not

putting that out there. No. I think I could if I wanted to. But they do such a good job. I'm sure they wouldn't make me look look look like but they did sweet out the conversation between you and JJ about you know who smault it was. He wasn't quite aware that you were wearing the mic, right, that was good stuff. Yeah, usually, you know, JJ's this game. I don't know what it was. He had headphones in for like three hours. I was like trying to like

wait for the time to tell him. It just never came. So, you know, at least he found out at some point. I mean, J. J. Watt's intimidating at the morning breakfast when he walks in, right, he's all by himself, He's still towering over everyone, and he's got the nick cap pulled down, the sunglasses, the aviator sunglasses, and then the headphones on. I mean, I've never seen a guy maybe quite so visibly, you know, locked in on a game day.

The moment he gets up, he's just got the he's just mean mugging everyone from from the moment it get you know, you get going out of bed. Yeah, I mean he definitely, you know, just as super focused. I think that's why you know he's such a good player. You know, he's seen so much and it just he doesn't let anything by him. So he just has that urgency all the time, and that's why you know he's

as great as he is. Is there a young guy on the defensive side of the ball, Zach that you're kind of it's caught your eye and you're kind of looking at him like, man, who are you? You are developing right here nicely? Is there a young guy on that defensive side of the ball that's got your attention? Yeah? I think Zaven. I mean, Zavin's really turning into a guy. Him and Isaiah definitely, you know, been playing some good ball and obviously you know they're big pieces of what

we're doing. So we need that. I tell you're gonna need a good game against Philadelphia. There's no doubt they're undefeated. We're gonna talk about that next. We're gonna talk about their quarterback, who's getting a lot of hype and attention for MVP consideration right now, number one in yards per atten tas four rushing touchdowns as well, and we'll talk about what makes the Eagles the only undefeated team in the league when we come back the Big Red Rage

presented by satan Ford and Gilbert. We are satan Ford with Cardinals defensive lineman Zach Allen. Mayfield and trouble steps up, hit and Zack by Zach Allen back at the twenty yard line. Allen with a couple of big plays here today. Shotgun stat Mayfield three step truck Hastock throws right side Pettitt down and complete. Zack Allen. Boy, what a game he's had. This defense came to play today. They came to play today, and they are Paul and Dog. Right now.

Mayfield's gonna throw pett into the air again, this time by Allan Pennison complete, Zach Allen got a hand up football hits the ground hint complete. Cardinals takeover on downs mad Roll rolled the dice, came up snake guys because of Zack ellen Allan playing maybe the best game of his career. You know what, Dave pass That's an astute question. Only we had Zach Allen to pose that question too. What do you think he was? Oh, we do have Zach Allen here on this edition to the Big Red

Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul klvc Ron Wolfley, and the guy who did or did not just play the best game of his career.

Because you had a heck of a game. Speaking of the Eagles Week fifteen of twenty twenty when you had to buy me at a Sackie had a quarterback, yet you had a tackle for lots of past defense and eleven tackles and if wolf you remember, that was historic because the only other d lineman in the history league to do all that and throw in eleven tackles Warren Sap and Willie McGinnis. So you tell us where did last week rank for you? Yeah? I think it definitely

was up there. I don't know. It's kind of weird because you kind of look at it in two ways, like statistically and impact on the game. So you know, let everybody else decide that, you know, it's a good ANSWER's good answer. Yeah, So, Zach, when I say the Philadelphia Eagles offense, what do you think of Yeah, I think they're you know, they're just such a you know, they're great at every level. I mean it's not they

don't really don't have a weakness. I mean the offensive line is you know, probably as good as it gets in the NFL, if not the best. And then you know, skill positions, they've invested a lot in you know, great running backs, great wide receivers. And then obviously you know, Jalen Hurts can do it all. Um, and I think he's really you know, superstar in the making. And um, it's definitely good to be a challenge, but you know,

we're really excited for it. You know, it's fun to play, you know, against the best, and right now they are the best. They're on the feeded And you mentioned the Hall of Fame caliber center Jason Kelsey. What separates the really good elite centers that you're going to face a lot of this game. Yeah, I think he's just, uh, he's so smart. I mean it's like, you know, he

knows what we're doing before we even do. It's kind of one of those things, and then on top of it, I think, you know, he's probably the quickest, the fastest gut center in the NFL. So you know, that's a really lethal combination. And he's been doing it so long, so there's really nothing that he hasn't seen and um, you know, definitely going to be a challenge to go against him. Zach. The Eagles offense, um, schematically looks like our offense. Do you agree with this and if so,

whom does that benefit? Yeah? I think it's, uh, you know, there's definitely a lot of similarities. Um, you know, I think there's still you know, some differences, but yeah, I think it's probably, you know, so far this year as close as we've seen kind of to ours. So you know, it's like you said, it kind of you know, it helps us but also helps them, so you know, it's it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

So you got met to guys like you know, Paul pencil Neck over here in the locker room this week asking the perverberial question, Um, Zach, you practice against the pretty dynamic quarterback. Does that help you against Jalen Hurts? I know, you know, in the regular season not so much, but at least in camp. And so for soul, the fact you have Kyler Marie on this team and you see him at least in August, does that help it

all here in week five? Yeah, obviously it doesn't hurt, you know, but you know, we still do some good on good periods during the week, so we still get to see Kyler, you know, every week. And uh yeah, I mean they're both, you know, really similar, and like I said, you know, Jalen's kind of kind of like Kyler. They can do it all. They don't have a weakness, so that's always going to be a challenge. You know, you were talking about the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line and

how good this offensive line is. What is their strength? What do you think they do the best? Well? I think, you know, the good great thing about them is that they've you know, they've all been together for so long. I mean, they've won a super Bowl together, and you know, I mean there's you know, been a little bit of change, but for the most part, I mean you kind of have the same guys and you know, I just they

execute so well. It's kind it's not necessarily the most complex, but you know, what they do there's just so good at doing it. And you know they're big and physical and they play with great techniques, so you know they're not you know, getting into these crazy by positions. And yeah, I mean if you look at the weights and the sizes of them, they're huge, you know, so to have you know, that size, but to be you know, as athletic as they are will definitely, you know, be a

challenge for us. Zach Allen is our guest here on the Big Red Rage. It's all about You, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. Let me ask you about Man's Joseph in a couple of ways. And Week one, Patrick Mahomes faced the highest blitz percentage, the highest blitz rate of any game in his career. It was fifty four percent. It seems like it's gone down every week since, and

especially maybe against Carolina. Is that a game by game thing or was that just maybe necessary week one and not as much now because the past rush has evolved? What do you make of maybe some of those percentages? Yeah, I think we we always change week by week. You know, every opponent's different, and you know that's uh, you know, he's just so good at kind of game planning. Um, you know, so when we don't execute, obviously it's going

to look bad. But you know, the plan every time we go into a game, we have so much confidence in it. And Wolf, you know, Van Joseph does a great job at taking away the other team's most productive player, right Davante Adams in week two Cooper Cup, even though he had the touchdown run in week three and then Christian McCaffrey really rendered a non factor by this Cardinals this defense. But when I look at Philadelphia and I don't know if this classifying info or not. I mean

I just see a lot of talent. I see a lot of different guys and weapons, and maybe it's not quite as as easy this week as identifying just one guy. Yeah, I mean they got a bunch of guys, and you know, for us, it's uh, you know, kind of reminds me a little bit of the Las Vegas game. You know Las Vegas. You look at the edge, they had Renfro, they had Adams, and they had Waller and Josh Jacobs is, you know, a great running back. So you know, it's

kind of similar to that. But you know, definitely definitely gonna be a challenge and you can always talk about the talent, and rightfully so. Jalen Hurts there he is, Miles Sanders very underrated running back. You got a j. Brown, of course, you got Davante Smith. I mean, they've got weapons. But I think you nailed it earlier when you said the offensive line again, I want to go back to it. Who's their best run blocking interior offensive lineman and who's

the best interior pass protector in your opinion? That's a tough one. Uh, I don't know, they're all it's kind of it's funny. They're all really built similar. You know, the two guards, they're really really similar. They're both physical,

but you know they work, they're really athletic. And then Kelsey is, uh, you know, he's kind of there cleaning everything up, and then if there's nothing there, he's just so athletic he can get on a linebacker, you know, and you know he's athletic enough to stay with him the hold down. So yeah, I mean that's kind of a that's kind of an I possible question, but they're Yeah, they definitely did a good job of building that old line. Well, talking about jail and Hurts because Van Jolson was talking

about the same thing. Other defensive coordinators talk about Kyler, you know, got account for him because if he gets loose, look out. Kyler won the Heisman in twenty eighteen. Jalen Hurts, someone to old Coloma was the Heisman runner up in two nineteen, and of course Cliff Kingsbury was asked about Jalen Hurts this week. He's tremendous, I told our staff.

I mean he's one of the best decision makers in the league as far as where to go with the football, when to throw it, when the tucket, when to you know, make plays. And he's always been a winner. I mean I remember recruit him in high school and legendary work ethic, whether it was in high school at Alabama or not Philly. You hear stories of how lady's there and how hard

he's working, and it pays off. Tremendous talent. They've done a great job building that offense around him, great O line, great skilled position players, and he's really operating at a high level. Do you expect the ball to come out

quick on Sunday? Meaning he's so athletic, he has ability to extend place right, Do you still expect because that has sort of been the umle against the Cardinals defense, and maybe Vans Joseph's reputation precedes him as bringing the blitz because you guys, I think it was last week right going into that game, it was the number two ranked you know, defense where the ball's coming out quickest again, and so I don't know, do you expect that on

Sunday against this team. Yeah, they kind of do a little bit of everything, but definitely kind of RPOs is a big part of their offense. So yeah, I mean he's kind of a guy where, you know, if he can go through all the progressions if need be, but also he's such a good athlete that you know, it's either if it's one of those get the ball quick or you know, just go make magic happen. So it'll be interesting, I think, you know, kind of the first fifteen plays always kind of tells you the story of

the game. So we'll see how it plays out. You know what's interesting about this is this matchup features the two teams in the league that actually used the shotgun the most, the Eagles of course, and us the Cardinals. You love the shotgun as well, do you not? Yeah? Definitely, as a you know for a D lineman makes it easier because you know, nine times out of ten, the ball is going you know, wait from the running back,

so you're able to play that. You don't have to you know, not guess, but you don't have to play it honest like, and you know when it's under center. And then also you know, shotgun is usually more pass opportunities. So, um, you know, on both fronts, it's definitely fun to go against what's been like playing for Matt Burke, your new D line coach. Ya, we're talking to Rochard Lawrence. He said he just di spouses getting off the ball, just getting nasty right away. Yeah, now that's awesome when he

kind of sets you free like that. Um, you know, it's definitely obviously you want to be in your gap, but you know, if you're disrupting and making plays, it's you know, he's not going to hold you back. And the thing with him is he's so smart, which is great. You know, he definitely you know, he's a really good teacher, knows how to you know, relay the information and make it really you know easy to digest and both you know, game plan wise and also techniques. So he's He's been

awesome for our room so far. What do you think about this game defensively, Um and your matchup against the Eagles? What do you think you guys are going to have to do to win this game's act? Yeah, I think it's kind of the story of every game. If you stop the run, you know that it definitely gives you a shot. And you know, I think they ran a fifty times last week and they did a really good job with it. So if you don't stop it, they're just gonna keep going and going and going. So that's

probably gonna be the biggest challenge for us. You know, both guys, he played with both guys. Who's going to be the more fired up player against their former team Zach Ertz or Hassan Reddick on Sunday. How's Zach gonna play out? It will definitely be interesting because both situations were pretty similar. But yeah, definitely be a good matchup. Be interesting to see if Zach and Hassan goo against each other. But we'll see. It's right, they could they

go watching on tape. Miles Sanders, I think it gets lost in the shuffle. Um, he's got a three hundred and fifty six yards rushing right now, and he's five eleven, two hundred and fifteen pounds and you know that's a tough tackle right there. But what are you singing on tape of Miles Sanders? Yeah, it's uh. I remember when we played him two years ago. I was like, this guy's got some wiggle to him. But I think he was a little bit smaller and now he's gained a

gain the way become bigger. It's almost kind of like he's like a little bit of a bigger Christian McCaffrey. So it's definitely going to be a challenge. And I'm a big fan of his game. And yeah, I don't know why he's so underrated, but he definitely, you know, deserves a lot more credit. And tell us a little bit more about Zaman Collins. What have you seen? What have you seen in the growth him? He led the

team and tackles last week. Yeah, I think with him, he's uh, you know, he's He's always been a really smart guy. It's just kind of getting used to the speedy of the game. It's the NFL and you no offense to the AAC, but Tulsa isn't exactly you know,

NFL football, so absolutely right. Yeah, I mean it's just kind of one of those things that's just you know what, it takes a little bit of time, and you know, he's definitely put in the work and you know he's really you know, thirsty to learn it all and you know he wants to get better and um, yeah, I think he's just starting to click for him, which is awesome. It's funny well because Zaven considers himself a teacher when it comes to classic rock. Yeah, classic rock music over there, okay,

and even beyond that. Today he was instructing Tanner Vallejo about the greatness of Johnny Cash. So that was that's what we came upon his locker He said, if there's one guy in the locker room, they will not give control as DJ or the music, It would be himself. He freely admits that. Zac. Would you agree with that, Zamon Collins, Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he definitely

they're in training camp. He would just be like randomly just like playing it out loud on his phone and would be like six in the morning, We're like, what are you doing? So yeah, definitely he doesn't have and he's not in charge of the OX but that does not stop him from just playing it. So Zach, just show looking forward quickly the rest of the way. Where

do you want to improve the most? Yeah, I think more just being consistent kind of like I said earlier, I just want to you know, be able to do it every snap and not just you know, kind of have these flashes, but you know, really be you know, making more plays and making more of them in the backfield. And it's a contract here the music explained. So you were safe for an an extent exactly. But I mean, but your intensity is heightened by that, I would imagine.

I mean, it's kind of hard not to be. But yeah, that's right, that's good. Hey, Zach. We enjoyed it as always. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, we look forward to it and maybe even a wave to all those Eagles fans at the end of this game on week five. Here we'll see how it turns out and we'll continue with more of the Big Red Rage, all presented by santan Ford and Gilbert We are santan Ford Special. Thanks

again to Zach Allen. Third and two on the twenty three for the Panthers snapped to Murray kind of throw and It's a fade right side for Crown in the end zone. Brown haws it in and it's a touchdown. What a catch by Hollywood does a slow angel on the ground in celebration after just a phenomenal catch for

probably the dagger in this ball game. That is a flat shovel to the face of the Carolina Panthers that made it twenty six ten, twenty six sixteen win by the Arizona Cardinals snapping a six game skid against Carolina. You're Zach Allen wolf talking about how they thought in the recent past, how Carolina had quote bullied the Cardinals a little bit. That definitely did not happen in Charlotte

Cardinals get the win. In fact, it was before and after that touchdown where Zach Allen had a bat at pass and the booze rained down from the home fans against Baker and the offense. And then after that Hollywood Brown touchdown from Kyler Yeah, JJ Watt batting down his second pass of the game and the booze rained down again. Welcome back into the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert We are satan Ford, Paul Calvc and

Ron Wolfley you know, Polly. For me, when I think of that game, of course, I think of the second half. The first half was not good for the Arizona Cardinals. I think of the second half. We know that the Cardinals have had a hard time starting games. Well for me, you know what, starting a half matters as well, not just starting games, but starting a half. The way they came out with that defense first and a three and

out right there where Carolina thought that was huge. And then the Cardinals took the ball and eighty nine yards later down the field, man bought a bang, bought a boom, touchdown. They were back in the game. Yeah, Cardinals had three takeaways, they had the two sacks. A lot of those guys on the edge were problems. Marcus Golden I thought played real well, especially against the run. They started chipping him in the second half. They were so concerned about him. Yeah,

I Dennis Gardek had a sack. They had those five passes bad at the line of scrimmage, eight passes defense, you know, three tackles for loss. So the defense was definitely there. And as Kyler said, you know, they played a hell of a game. They played a heck of a game. A couple of times he said that, and now it's on the offense to try and get in

the gear earlier, that's for sure. In fact, here's Kyler on that after the game Fun Diversity Defense played a hell of a game, finally kicked it in gear come second half. I found our rhythm, which is part of the you know, I think that's part of the problem is we haven't there's no rhythm at the beginning of games. It's, um, you know, we're kind of just we're sleepwalking out there. You know, that's what feels like. So six courses we touched Zo pel brand new to be an Inzo. It's crazy. Yeah,

you keep hearing that. You know, when we get in rhythm, we're a good offense. So so translated defining rhythm wolf, what do they meet? Yeah, I don't know. I really don't know. I think it's different for everybody. When you talk about rhythm, m Kurt Warner, I think probably would tell you Old Graybeard would tell you that, you know, what's throwing the ball three consecutive times in a row and moving the chains. There's the kind of rhythm that

he's probably talking about. I listened, Um, Kyler might be talking about throwing the ball. But PAULI, that second half it was about running the ball. It was about the Cardinals running the ball. It wasn't about rhythm. To me, I don't. I don't consider running the football being in rhythm. I just don't. Now maybe Kyler does. But nine times they put Kyler Murray under center in that second half. Nine times, and that's not counting the three kneel downs.

At the end, they were balanced in terms of their play calling, run pass. I thought Cliff did an excellent job once again, just like he did in the second half of the Raiders game, staying balanced in that second half of the Raiders game, and that really spurred the comeback as well. I think this is what their offense has got to be. It's got to be more balanced,

I believe, and more vertically associated as opposed to horizontally. Well, think about a year ago they were nine and an oh when they ran the ball thirty times or more in a game. They ran at thirty seven times or a buck thirty two. Three of those were kneel downs, just under four yards of carry, and it was three different running backs. It was James Conner, you know, Benjamin looked sharp Darryl Williams, I know you're a fan. I

expect that to continue. This rotation of running backs, each guy pushing each other, each guy presenting a little different challenge of the defense, fresh legs and coming out of the backfield with a vengeance. That's just seemed to be the m in that second half as they took control of the game. You're right, it had a much like a Raiders feel in that second half. Yeah, it did, Polly, but it just seemed like guys came through a much more. I think of the Raiders second half, and I think

of Kyler Murray. I do he had a gross simplification of the truth. I think of Kyler Murray in the way that he played in that second half, and in particular of that fourth quarter. It was just absolutely stunning to see that kind of talent out in the field. When I think of the Carolina second half, Polly, I think of more guys. I think of an entire team coming together in that second half. And that's why I'm very, very interested to see what they do against the Philadelphia

Eagles coming up on Sunday. And look, you win the line of scrimmage, you win the game, and you cited right from the get go that was going to be the key in Carolina, as Zach Allen just confirmed. You know, they felt like they got bullied physically, especially last year. Cardinals were flat. They get on seventeen nothing in the first quarter of Colt McCoy was the quarterback. That's the one game they lost with cold. Guys just didn't bring

it that home loss. So it's totally different. And look, the Cardinal z O line was better than the Raiders O line, better than the Rams O line, I think, better than Carolina ZO line. That's probably not the case here on Sunday against Philly. They are known for being very stout on either side of the line of scrimmage, So size that up for us here. I mean, you know what sort of advantage you think Philly has in

that department. Yeah, you know, that's a great question right there, Polly. Honestly, their offensive line, nobody talks about it because of all the talent they have. Look, everybody, there's DeVante Smith. Look it's a j Brown, right, I mean, there's there's just loaded Jalen Hurts. Of course they'd hurt so good, doesn't it? Jaln and Miles Sanders the number three rusher at the NFL. Right now, right, Paul, Yet it is their offensive line man's that's gonna be the real task for this front

seven for the Arizona Cardinals against that offensive lion. PAULA. I'll just flip it over quickly and say that's the one weakness, the only weakness I see on this Philadelphia Eagles team is their rush defense. Now, you want to talk about getting after the quarterback and getting up the field. Oh yeah, Fletcher Cox, He'll get up the field even from a three technique. Brandon Graham on the outside. Hassan Reddick,

of course, Hello, Hassan. You know, it's just they've got guys that are on pace, four guys that actually could finish with double digit sacks, but they're they're playing the run on their way to rushing the Baszard ball. You know, they have the NFC defensive Player of the Week three weeks running. Week two was Darius Slay They're all pro corner. Week three it was Brandon Graham, who had two and

a half sacks, six tackles in a forced fumble. Hassan Reddick, the former Cardinal four NFC Defensive Player of the Week with a couple of sacks, a couple of force fumbles, a couple of fumble recoveries, So yeah, they get after the quarterback. Their number one in the NFL and sacks was sixteen. Cardinals will last with four, Dani, they turn you over too, So yeah, and they did that. I mean four fumbles, four lost bumbles by Trevor Lawrence and

five takeaways against Jacksonville. So I guess that's the flip side. I mean, look at some of the teams they've beaten, right, the Lions and the Commanders and the Jaguars when Trevor Lawrence was terrible in the rain. So we'll see, we'll see what it's all about. But you're the physicality, well you know what I mean. A j Brown second to the league and yards after catch to Deebo Samuel Miles Sanders, he plays angry. We'll continue to talk about at Cardinals

and Eagles. On the Big Red Rage presented by Santan four in Gilbert, this could be the game. Fourth down in one hand on my tower, running right and get to the outside and he's gotten the first out of the forty five and it's done. A bounds throws a slant of fits caught at the thirty inside of the twenty five and down of the twenty three. It's a game of about eighteen. In the first down for the Cardinals, Sturry Fitzgerald is literally trying to will this team to victory.

Right now. Humps right, goes back to the left high tower, caught at the ten, cuts off to the five high tower to the goal like head, it cuts down head. The Cardinals great take the leave for two fifty three to go, pick up by docket, docket inside the ten sets in. The Cardinals have shot the world stright but true, the Cards have done it. They're showing the Super Bowl forty I still get chills every time I hear them.

Another historic hall by the great Dave pass as the Cardinals with a confetti raining down the NFC Championship game, that two thousand and eight playoff win against the Eagles. Heading to Tampa and Super Bowl forty three. The Eagles are the opponent once again. They have a plate since two twenty You remember that game. We cited all the big stats from our guests, Zach Allen, maybe the best game of his career. There. Cardinals got the win against a very young Jalen Hurts just his second start and

wolf going around the locker room talking to guys. He is a very much improved quarterback here in year three, and think about it. In that game back in twenty twenty, he's still won twenty four or forty four for three to thirty eight, three touchdowns, no turnovers, a passer rating over one hundred. He had a rushing touchdown. He's one of the one of the guys you can count on one hand, right, like Kyler and Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts.

That just scares a defensive coordinator for so many different reasons. Yeah. No, there's no doubt about it, Paul. These two guys, these two quarterbacks are electric. Jalen Hurts is absolutely awesome. He's a bigger version basically of Kyler Murray. He's got all the talent in the world. I think he's got a lot to prove going forward. I think he does. Listen. He's surrounded by something really, really good talent. I love Jalen Hurt. I am starting to come around on him.

When I watch tape on him right now, it looks like this is sustainable. This is not just He's put together two good games. He's put together four good games right now. And both these teams, Polly, offensively, they're so similar they are, Paul, both these teams, this is the same offense largely speaking. Okay, so so would that being the case? The Cardinals have yet to score a point in the first quarter, and they've been outscoring the first half sixty six to sixteen. What are the Eagles doing

to get off to these high flying starts? Fly? Eagles fly? What are they doing in the first half? Yeah, you know what, they're executing Where the Arizona Cardinals are not executing. They are executing. And I just want to go over schematically, Polly, they love eleven personnel. One back, one tight end, three wide receivers. Now again, the National Football League loves eleven personnel, but not to the degree in which the Philadelphia Eagles.

The Eagles are in at seventy five percent of the time, the Cardinals are in it almost seventy percent of the time. But man, it's incredible to see if both teams love the shotgun, Paul, these are these two teams lead the league and use of the shotgun. That was a great question, by the way, to Zach Allen, by you because you can see his eyes just light up. Any defensive lineman, it simplifies their job, It takes a lot of responsibilities

off their plate. He heard what he said that nine times out of ten the ball is going opposite of the running back. Yeah, I'm like, really, I mean that is such a tell, That is such a tendency. And then, of course, if you're in the shotgun usually typically offenses are more prone to throwing it, which means a defensive lineman can eat and can hunt and go after the quarterbacks.

So yeah, that was a great question because there's no doubt those guys love the shotgun, which would seem to tell me that offensive coordinator, Well, maybe that's one reason why Kyler was under center a lot more than the second half last week exactly. Who knows, PAULI. Maybe this is the evolution. Maybe they're gonna start blending it the old and the new. I've been talking about it for three years with Kyler Murray. Of course, under center expand

the football universe. Don't contract it. Both these teams they have these elite quarterbacks, dual thread quarterbacks. They embrace the spread concept. Both of these teams they're more horizontal than they are vertical. It's amazing when you see the similarities of these two teams. Man, this is like a mirror image game for the Arizona Cardinals and Paul. That brings

up a really cool question. Man, think about it. Both these coaches, they're gonna know the others offense so well, and how does that play into the defense that will see because man, it's so similar ball. It's a great segue because zach Ertz, the long time nine year Philadelphia Eagle, obviously knows the offense very well. But he told the media today, hang up, don't discount that Philly defensive front. In fact, you're zach ERT's six guys deep really on

that D line, maybe even more. They're extremely talented. I mean, fletching BG. I've been doing it for thirteen years or eleven and thirteen years. Guys that have been all pros, Pro bowlers. Josh Switt was a pro bowler. Hassan obviously everyone knows here Hargrave as a stud. So that D line is the key to our success. That's trying to notify them, and it's a lot easier said than done. And what is the state of the Cardinals interior old line?

That's a big question right now, as Rodney Hudson and Justin Peu have not practiced this week, what will happen tomorrow? What will be declared if anything. So you gotta wonder the fact they signed Billy Price, a veteran center off the Raiders practice squad. That's an indication maybe where or how this might be tracking. So that is a big deal obviously, Yes, Pauli. And it's so amazing to hear zach Ert say that because the Eagles don't like jamming

up the box. They don't. They love to cover with a three interior offensive linemen the center and both guards. They love to cover them with defensive linemen with linebackers on the edges. Right, That's where you got Hassan Roddick and you got sweat on the other side, and then t J. Edwards stacked over the solid front, the three down front over the center and two guards. Buddy Ryan

would be so proud. I'll tell you if you if you want a game to regain your standing with the Red Sea seventh straight home losses, this is in especially with what you figure to be a number of Eagles fans in attendance, you come out, maybe the Eagles are smelling themselves just a little bit. They've been crowned already in the NFC here all the talk about Jalen Hurts

an MVP consideration and the Eagles have arrived. Well. Cardinals have been there and done that last year when they were seven and old and the toast of the league. So we'll see maybe a little role reversal on Sunday Special Banks, Zach Allen as always, Jim Mhondro, Cody Fincher for Ron Wolfley on Paul KELVC Cardinals and Eagles Week five coming up on Sunday. That'll do it for the

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