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who is succeeding at life in every direction. And today we have Damon John. And in this episode, if you were interested in anything relating to entrepreneurship, building wealth, and learning from failure, you need to stick around. We go through his first business, selling pencils and getting beaten up. We talked about his bankruptcies. We talked about dealing with morons, how to be a shark, and most importantly, how you

go from forty bucks to six billion. All Right, today is an insanely, insanely special day because my guest is none other than Damon John. Hey, Damon, how are you? I'm good man? Now you look good with like the leather and the Yankees had, and I'm trying to be cool. Now. If you don't know Damon, I don't know who you are, and I don't know why you're even listening to this, because you should. Damon is a serial entrepreneur, investor, TV personality,

five time best selling author. He's got his new book out right now, Power Shift, which is incredible. He's also on a little TV show, Um, I can't remember, it's a fish the fish Hit the fish Bowl, Shark Shark Tank. That one nominated for fifteen Emmy's one four of them, which is amazing. Damon, thank you for being here, Thank you for having me. Yeah, man, how's your day? So for it is great? It's Monday. I'm calling it more on Monday. Yeah. There's a lot of morons on the world, man,

there are, dude, It's amazing. So I'm really excited about that because that means I can make more and more money, and so that everybody listening can make more and more money because morons buy more stuff. Well, morons and idiots, and if you have common sense and you're willing to work hard and bust your ask for the morons won't.

So it's more on Monday. I gotta gotta got it right because you can outwork everybody else who's just because they're just not doing getting information from one source and or they're idiots. I mean, it's really More on Monday. I'm telling you now. You know, it's funny. I moved to New York City in two thousands six when I graduated college, and a way to make money for me when I first got here because I was trying to be an actor, and I was before I ever got

into real estate. In two I would do little things like I passed up flyers on the street for gyms, like I would do odds and end jobs. And one of the things that I got was like a stock photo job modeling Fu Bou nice. Yeah. I don't know where those photos are because I think they were burned. But I was probably the worst Foo Boo model not anyone has ever seen. Do you remember those? Do you

remember those? I didn't remember yours? No? Maybe not? I mean thinking about that, that that was probably about fifteen years ago. I mean, but we always had really attractive and people

we felt fit the part. And you know what, I think a good point of it is that a lot of times, you know, talking about More on Monday, A lot of times people thought that food was only for people of a certain color, and we wouldn't have used obviously not not the color that they're thinking, different color, and obviously we had probably used the photo because you know, we we used people of bolt colors and our ads. We thank you man, thank you for being part of

the brand. So listen, one thing I want to start with this. I'm gonna keep it super simple and let's see how you respond. Okay, how did you go from nothing to something? And what does that mean to you? Um? I went through it through massive amount of failures. Um, but I was failing small and quick and now learning from them. I went through life as a series of mentors.

So I went through so many different mentors to try to obtain the information that I didn't know I had that I didn't know what to do, because when you start out and anything, you don't know what you don't know. I went through a lot of soul searching and realized what was my why and why was I doing this? And what did I want to get out of it? And what was my line in the sand and what I would agree upon or not agree upon. I went

through a lot of common sense too. You know, I looked around, and everybody said you can't do what I was. I was like, well, why all these buildings here, in all these cars here? Who who did it? You know? Was it was it the gods who did it? Or was it one person with one idea that took one action. I was like, this common sense, you can do this something.

And I just read a lot. I read, I read a lot, and I and I and I noticed that the things that I would read if I found the same underlying truth in these twenty or forty books that were written by different people at different times in their life, in different times in history, what are they all lying to me? Like? It's it's right there, it's right there. Just a lot of common sense and drive. So so you saw success from other people and that's what drove you.

That was your kind of your wire driver? What was the what was the why? My why initially was get some funky sneakers from for myself because mom wasn't making any money. Why why make her work for mine? Uh? Then it was supporting a household of me and dressed my mother honestly, but I didn't want to be on

the streets. And then then then I made mistakes going through their own businesses to try to make money, thinking that you know, I was going to be a bazillionaire by twenty and I was in and I was broke by twenty because I was doing it only for money I had. I had no passion to drive for it, so sure I didn't want to work on it. Then my wife became wait a minute, it's an untapped market that that we're being neglected by all the big designers. They think that hip hop kids are like, you know,

or rappers or whatever or not a value. And I want to make clothes for people who I love the genre music, you know. And that's when I created Foobu and it was forced bias was by the culture. I mean, I would I would dress the beastie boys. I would address at local J run D M C, Salt and Pepper. And that was my wife then. And then my wife would change over the lives over my time of running a business to say, Okay, everybody's gonna laugh at me if this thing fails, uh, and they're gonna think I

hit the lotto or that one by the Apple. I gotta keep going because my egos in place. And then I had two little baby girls and my wife, and then employees, and my wife just kept changing. What was your first business? You mentioned cars, and my first business was selling pencils at six years old. My pencils at six Was there a good return on those pencils? Amazing return? Because what I what I realized when the boys like the girls in school at that age, they would try

to knock their teeth out. So I think there's gotta be a way I can make a profit over this, right, So I would out to find these pencils. I would scrape the paint off the pencils, and I'd paint the names of the prettiest girls in school and the pencils, and I walk over the guys and go, you don't want to knock or teeth out. If you buy this box of pencils from me with your lunch money, you're gonna be able to sit with the girls and give

them the pencils. I get to talk to them, and then the guys would try to knock my teeth out. So I was about to throw the pencils away, and I remember one of the girls saying, Hey, that's my name on that pencil. Is that mine? I was like, yeah, it is. The girls paid me two times the amount of money that I was trying to sell it to the guys for. It's a market idea right there, But my principle made me close that business after one month. What where's that principle right now? And what do they do?

She had no vision. That's exactly the problem, because one of the boys squealed on me and told her that I was stealing the pencils from the guys that I hated in school. So my cost of goods with zero I think. I think it was a good business, but there was some personal risk involved in in the selling pencils to two people business when you're six, right, Uh, as far as it us. If they punched your lights out, right, if they knocked you out, but then they're still a

return I guess if the girls. But listen, I practiced the oldest form of self defense there is running. Yes, you can never cash me. I was really short and really fast. The question, though, like, was your and I know your why has changed over the years, but you know, don't go back to when you're ten years old. I'm just thinking, like what motivates you to come up with different business ideas and think about different ways to make money.

I know back then it was like sneakers and make some cash, But was it al also to do something different? Like where you was there a hunger for you to create something instead of just you know, making money. Because we talked to a lot of people too. It's it's just the money, right And you can see it on them, you can smell it when they walk in the room. Yeah, the people that I've always met that have been really

successful entrepreneurs. Okay, yeah, if you're in the financial trade market and the systems like that, and it is money, but they still love to kill. They still love the game, the game, They still love the way that their mind works, you know what I mean. I don't care if you're a professional gambler. It money is the outcome, but they still love the chase, the game, the way they break things down, the way they see opportunity. My real y came around with Foo and that was when I found

my love. I love fashion ever since I was ten years old, and I loved hip hop ever since I was ten years old. I blended them together when I was nineteen, not realizing that I can make money off them, and then I failed a bunch of times up until nineteen and I would I would still fail with Foobo from nineteen to twenty two. I would close it three times by running out of capital. But then I started

it again and that's where the real love came. They came around, like when I close it, but then people saw us saying, I have what that shirt from you, and I really want to it again. I started again. I closed it and I kept closing it, but it kept calling me back. And that's when I found my real love and my really my real why. Yeah. I was just giving people what they want. You know, it did a lot of things. It gave people what they want.

I would I would make a shirt and then somebody wear it and I would and they would wear it a certain way, and I would go I never thought about it like that, that ship is hid I love, you know, or somebody when they boughted, I felt like they said, and you know, I know that you feel

this way. You know you have to feel this way, and being successful what you do is I made them feel like they've arrived in some way or another, even if it was that one moment that they took a girl out or they were out with a guy and they were wearing their brand new food blue shirt, right like statement piece. But yeah, for that moment, they felt like they arrived and I would I would address people for the rest of my life for free if I could have. I just loved it. So what happened in

what was that shift? I mean what? Because you shut it down a couple of times and brought it back and I've read and we know you know how how important your mom was to a lot of this, right, Yeah, and ninety two, I realized that I was going to make a stand and I was not going to quit this thing, and I need to educate myself more. And I brought in uh partners, my three other partners that are still my partner still today. And I had already made all the mistakes prior, so now I knew what

I didn't need to do. You know a lot of people who were successful in business, they go to things and they may have five or ten businesses. The first business they didn't have enough funding, so they shut it down. The second business they had enough funding, but they didn't have distribution. They shut it down. The third one they had funding distribution, but they're legal wasn't in order. Boom boom,

boom boom by by business and attend. They're like, holy sh it, I you know, I may have something here. I think that's super important to all the listeners that are watching and listening now who are growing up or are learning how to start a business. And they are They've got Instagram, they've got Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, TikTok. How

do you get the word out about clothing? Um the way you guys started in the early nineties, without millions and millions and millions of dollars to spend and commercials and magazine ads. How do you do that? You know? And that's exactly what I know. We'll get into power ship about. It's about the building of influence prior and that's what we're talking about. I'm gonna tell you now, if I if social media was out when I started, Bubu would have not been a six billion dollar brand.

It would have been a hundred billion dollar brand over the years, because like you look at a Nike right now doing about thirty billion a year, right, we would have probably done about ten billion dollars a year annually. For how had you started now? Had I start it now, I mean I had to literally I sold your shirt, I had to find you. The Internet did not exist, cell phones didn't exist. I had to find where you

lived to sell you another shirt. And how did you keep track of all those customers and to be able to build your fanily school. I used to keep their phone number. I used to tell them book like literally at a book. I had a book. I used to tell them, you know, listen Friday nights. You know I'm gonna be in the corner of the Apollo Theater at twelve o'clock when that thing lets out. I'm telling you now, you better be there to get your shirt first, because

I'm gonna sell out that. Not only was I giving them consistency of where I was going to be, I was telling I knew their aims, and I was telling them where to find me. I promised. I kept that promise. I don't care if it was ten degrees. I was there that day so people could expect you at night. Also, I was getting feedback. Here's the best thing. You want feedback.

You stand on the corner of the Apollo Theater at midnight when those drunk people let out, and they would tell me about what they thought about my and my mother. You want feedback, Oh my God, and it grew us safer behind Instagram in person, much safer. But I had to work with my partner and I we worked it for about eight years like that, and I don't care eight insistency. Yeah, it had to be consistent. When did

you get into office space? When did you first kind of take a step back and realize, you know, what, things are gonna be okay, and they might be better than okay if we keep doing this. Yeah, it was never gonna be okay. It was either gonna be guys, all right now the real journey is starting, right, we're playing at a big level. Nineteen nineties seven, UH Samsung's textile division and this guy named Bruce and Norman gave me a call and they gave us an opportunity um

to to come up there and were the agreement. I think we had to sell five million dollars worth of clothes and five in in three years to keep this distribution deal that they were going to distribute our clothes. It's like a record label getting a record, you know, million and three years. Yeah, but I did thirty million dollars in three months. And because we had already built up this influence for ten years or nine years, all of a sudden, they gave you a megaphone, gave us

a megaphone. They were like, okay, now we can manufacture and distribute, do what you do best. And that was it. We were dressing everybody in every single video. We were every place, we want, every corner, and those ambassadors that we had built that influence with, somebody would say, hey, you know, I'm the Foobu guy who I'm the fooble girl in Detroit And we would have a hundred of the holes in Detroit, a hundred of those in Atlanta,

a hundred of those in Carolina Organic. And this is viral before was viral, right, we build this relationship with l J. He goes and puts Foobu in the gap ad, he does a gap at and he puts for us by us on the low in the gap at. Gap spends thirty million dollars airing that commercial. It's a Foolbu commercial. They're basically airing um. So many big things had happened at that time for us, But it was a culmination of if you really think about it, I started in

eighty nine. By that time, nine years or whatever, the cases of just just pounding the ground. Now, it's going back to what you talked about. You know, one of the things I think people don't really understand these days when they like when they look at somebody like you and they say, okay, successful, Yeah, I know he's got some sort of backstory. But is the red lobster working red Lobster? That is a hustle that people just don't get anymore. Like what you said, your your job when

you started was you worked at Red Lobster. The majority of your day was working Red lobster, right, and then it was getting food off the ground, watching it failed, getting it back off the ground, watching it fail. What was the red Lobster to you? Yeah, just like you with the flyers, Red Lobster was my basis. I had to keep the lights on. And everybody talks about, you know,

burn the bridges and quit your day job there. Whoever said that's an idiot, because if you look and I worked the Red Lobster for five years and I got paid thirty thousand dollars a year, I had medical I was taking all the food home, so now I didn't have to pay for food anymore. I was having an entire staff of red Lobster come to flea markets with me on Saturdays and helped me. I was trying to sell the customers right if they bought their shrimp, do

you want a T shirt? You know? And then at the same time my house, I was renting out all the rooms in my house. I had four rooms, so I was renting a while out for twenty five dollars a week to strangers. And I was sleeping on the couch. So now I had some of the mortgage paid. I was working all those hours of red Lobster, and I had to do that for five years. I would have to do two million dollars in sales and food to take the same money away from there, and I wouldn't

have done two million dollars of sales. I was sleeping next to sewing machines, you know, I was. I had a old eat up car gelopy. I mean that thing was. I don't know where it is, but you should find that car. It's not trust me, it's not around anymore. It's not around anymore. It can't be. And now you're successful and everybody knows it too. Why shark tank, I mean, is it just because you're you're hungry for more. You want to meet more people, you want to help more people.

You invest in all these different businesses. You know, that's it sounds almost like a stupid question, but it's kind of not because you've You've lived so much life and had so much business that people could only even dream of. Why Shark Tank is? Why? Why has changed on Shark Tank?

You know? Initially when I turned down the show because they said I couldn't do any of the show while doing Shark Tank, and I was representing the Kardashians and I was doing various things with the Kardashians, so I said no. Chloe Kardashian fired me off the show because she heard that I was turning down Shark Tank because of her. Then I heard that on Shark Tank you have to use your own money. I'm like, these these guys in Hollywood a pimps. You suppose to get paid

to be on the show. Are you crazy? And then somebody said to me, well, Daman, you're only getting pitched clothing ideas. And I had ten clothing comings at the time, and eight of them were dead. This is oh, seven oh eight, when retail not working. I said, I'll go on the show because if I'm talking to a retailer. I want to take a more real estate in their in their area, and I only have clothing. So I'll go and get some lotions I'll get I'll get electronics,

I'll get whatever. So then when i'm talking to you, I'll go can I be in these other departments? And because we have a nurtured relationship, like we always talking about, you'll say yes. I'm more comfortable with you because I know you're a good vendor. You've been a good vendor record for years. Something goes wrong, you'll take it back. We have a good relationship going there. Then I start to realize the power of it the show, and I start to realize I'm learning more on the show than

the people on the show. I don't learn too much from the Morons on the Other Sharks, they're the chairman of Moron. But I learned from these other kids who are coming up now. All of a sudden, they're selling clothes a different way, their online, they're doing social media conversion, they're doing this, they're doing that, And I'm learning all these other industries and I'm applying it to myself. I wasn't thinking about what we do now content creation. I

wasn't thinking about all these other things. I would have been like my old up like some of like colleagues in the industry, would have been the same old guy going, let me make a shirt. Hopefully a buyer buys it. Hopefully they put it on the rack in a dying retail environment, and maybe somebody walks by the rack and buys it. I would have been that same person. But again, shark Tank has grown to something else and it changed my Why Yeah, so how many different businesses are you

involved with? Now? You remember I would say that a shark town by eight um. But and I know it sounds daunting. So let me clara, let me my jaw just dropped. Let me clarify that one third of them are the walking dead giving them the money, or we've done a deal and they're dead and or they are trying to come around. There's nothing for me to do. They call them up and ask them for the money. Now, I mean, I'm a partner, right and things may work out,

it may not. Another third of them, like bomba Socks, are brilliant. They don't need me. If I call them, I may suck it up. They don't need me at all to call them and say, Yo, you should make the locals bigger. They'd be like, thank you, Damon click. So now the ones I got a concentrar on the ones right on the fence, they're gonna move either over to one of those other lay means, and they call me when they need me, and we work it out and they need your help if they need my help. Absolutely,

And I'm here. What's your favorite business you're working on right now? My favorite business? Well, of course, because we're here, I'm gonna talk about the book. But other than that because content. But you know, I I like my I

like my curriculum, my Damon on demand. I give step by step lessons and and the information people need to know to run a business and understand the difference between if you need a trademark or you need a patent, or you need a d b A or you need a design trademark against a utility patent or whatever the cases. Because in financing, when you get financing, how do you get financing? Who do you get financing from? So I like that one because it helps people. It saves them

from the mistakes that I made. When did you put that course out? I put the course out about a year. It's you can go to gaming on Demand dot com and get that course. And you know, I'm starting to see the students come back who are growing their business or starting a business and saying, this is actually working. So it's your it's your whole life and everything you know and all if you're experts and people you work with all boiled down in eight hours, so you can

get it. Basically, you can get your business degree. I'll give example right now. Everybody always wants a patent. Patent can cost anywhere from seventeen that if you do it yourself, right, a utility patent in one of the cases, you do it just yourself, no attorney. Of course, you maybe three thousand dollars, but but you could probably you know, an attorney, seventeen thousand all the way to a hundred because how many claims you have in a pattern. I have a

hundred patterns. I haven't been able to defend that one of them. However, a trademark f you be you cost dollars. You can't put foubu on anything. That's it now per category, then you get more categories at three hundred four hundred dollars. That means you have it in category twenty four and the category seventeen and twenty five maybe clothing. But think

about it like this. Somebody right now who has been told they need a patent has spent fifty thousand dollars when they just need to spend trademard what they really they didn't know what they needed yet. If you could go back in time and stand in front of your twenty year old self, to go back to in right on that corner, that inflection point, that aha moment when that happened, you yourself right now, right, you take the delore and you go back there, What do you say

to him without fucking him up? Funny? I watched the Generous of the day, Do Alive not comedy. She was just doing her speech or her whatever, Q and A, she says. She She says she wouldn't tell her older, her younger self anything because then she wouldn't be who she is today. Me on all this hand, I get it, you're right, um, but I would have I would have said, damon, you've got to learn financial intelligence. You've gotta learn how money works. Man, You've got to learn how money works.

The system has not been set up to let you know how money works. You are and you're the only thing you're not gonna learn in the school system, or not the only thing, but you're not gonna learn how financial intelligence works, because then you can't get three hundred thousand, four hundred thousand dollars worth of loans on the education. You're not certain if you want, I need a financial intelligence, I would go i'ld go home with bankrupt three times

after that. Now, two of the times I almost went bankrupt, I didn't have anything so bankrupt. Wasn't you know, wasn't that you know, wasn't that much of a law it was. It was it was almost like a you know, break even. But after that I would I would blow about. I would not blow because it wasn't on stupid things, but I would go through about ten million fairly quickly. Thank god, I'm not an athlete of somebody who peaks at the beginning of their career. But you know, I had many

more bites to the apple and I was fine. But I learned from that. I said that with a ten million go now, I just didn't know how it worked. Become financially literate. That's what you'd say to your financial work on finding I'm still working on finding every you know, the richest and wealthiest people. I know, billionaires. I mean,

guys are big money. They walk around with and they're just older, but they walk around a book and all they do generally is discuss or when they hear about different ways to legally save on taxes, that's what they write. And I always say why do you? And I noticed like it was four different guys and said why do you do that? He said, Well, I can either risk at all and start a whole new business to hopefully do two hundred million dollars a year, or I can

just save two hundred million that I already made. Why the hell do I need to do this? Instead of do this? But I gotta pay a billion all the taxes. I'd rather only pay six hundred million dollars in tax seven hundred million dollars And why start a whole new business? Pretty smart? That already made it exactly. I love that man, because you also because you have your course and you're learning every day. Education has been such a big part of your life every day as you go on every day.

You said big money there, What does big money energy mean to you? If I just said that phrase to you, what would you think about? I can interpret in different ways I've ever heard before until you said, a big money energy to me means either you know, you think of the big money Wolf of Wall Street energy, like in a room like that where I'm not sure that's good. I'm just saying that, or you think of big money. They come in when a person just has that thing

that they think big. They operate big. You know, they just think big. You know. When I'm out with those guys a lot of times there they're talking about you know, so I'm gonna rule wealthy people and super wealthy people. The difference between wealthy and super wealthy is the wealthy people that I see or the rich. I don't want to say wealth because wealthy is a lot of different things in life. They talked about how big their parties are, how big their houses are, and stuff like that. They

really really rich people. They talk about how much money they gave away this year. So I was in the house a little while back, and I remember this woman walking walking to us all around and she's like, look how big this house is, Look how big this is. And then she just came into money and I remember somebody who having an OVC said, wow, you live really well. You live better than Warren Buffett. She shut the funk

up after that. So you know, big money energy is just you know, really really really just thinking big and being humble. I think also, I think, sure, talk to me about your book, power Shift. Power Shift book number five. All right, So I wrote this book because it was like one week that a lot of people came to me and they were asking me about or trying to get advice about changing their lives and various other things.

And I'd asked them what did they do? And they a lot of people felt that they were inundated, or they did know where to start, or they needed a lot of money, or they needed this, they needed that, when it was really their mentality of how to change your life, of what they can do with what they have right now. And uh, and then I also started to realize that people think that power shift and shifting power is either taking it away and being just just

massively mean personal lots of time. Power shift is passing the power onto you on the all the side of the table. You appreciate it, and and and I wanted people to understand how uh to become powerful. It's a three step process. First, you have to build influence, like you and I were talking, right, You have to build influences, Then you negotiate what you want for both parties, and then you nurture the relationship afterwards. But people are so transactional,

they're so just like this. So what do you do when you run into a Ryan in the elevator and you have a nineties second pitch and you didn't have time to build influence with them? Well, if you have the pitch and I do a lot of pitches in here that are rock solid, Ryan, and damon, we're gonna look at you or at your Instagram later on, did you build influence through there to the right way? Because I'm gonna look at the language and everything you're doing

and how you're representing yourself. If you happen to be taking pictures with a massogic race and racist friend all the time and you're wondering why I'm never calling you back, Well maybe because I've just followed all the things around you and realized that it's a facade you're putting out there and this is actually where you believe nothing wrong with that. Maybe you'll find somebody else who's a racist, massageist,

the pick who wants to be down with you. But you know, it's all about this, this this form of taking power back. Because people think that they'd be the lost power. Somebody had to give it to him. That's why I told you that good Friday. I realized nobody had to give me power. I was in charge of myself. And so I have a lot of subjects in here, from Chris Jenner to uh, clay you Bill a guy who is you know, Mark Vannette. But Clayton new Bill

is the producer of our show. He's had to see thousands of pitches to get people to come in front of the Sharks, probably like ten thousand, Right, what got you pass clay new Bill to go to the Sharks? I got Mark Cuban in there. I got pit Bull, I got people you won't know in there who are extremely successful people and how they have used power in

their lives. Look at the Kardashians. It's a subtle power that they use, but it's in the book on how they have built influence over the course of their lives and how they're so powerful. Right, So it's a blueprint. It's a powerfue print. It's a movement. The reason why I put so many different subjects in there because I got I got in there Billy Jean King, who changed the face of tennis. You know what I mean. This is not all about money. This is about power and

movement and giving. And that's why I put the blueprint in by Barris different people, because you'll start to see something that underlines other things, from body language when you're discussing with people, to negotiation tactics to pitching. And if you just take one or two of them, you're not gonna absorb the whole thing. And maybe not it's not for everybody, but you take one or two of them tomorrow, and it starts making you better and stronger. You keep

adding to your artillery. You're gonna realize. I mean, the only difference with anybody in the world is what we have ever negotiated. That's it. Yeah, man, I live my dad negotiating. Oh day long. Yeah. The first person you got to go sha is a one year old Yeah, exactly. Well, your he is manipulative. You will see you will see that in her. I mean I'm sure you're seeing it now,

like but when when they're two. They know how to play daddy against mommy, against caretakers, against teachers, against everybody. It's a natural thing that we have. But a lot of people don't realize how to master A two year old knows how to master it. They just forget it because people move them into a corner or they don't get what they want. But two year old was learning. They're learning. Yeah, you know how you learned super early

on how to how to manage people and manage expectations. Absolutely. Yeah, awesome, man, I'm super excited about the book. I want to wrap up one minute. You got it for me? Yea, guys, super quick. What's your favorite movie? I don't know. Tropic Thunder. That's a good movie. What you mean you people? Um? Well, what's the worst job you ever had? Running b X cable and burned down buildings in the Bronx? Yeah that's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. Do you have a favorite quote?

One is a great slave with a horrible master. That's a good one or no way? Wait wait, wait, don't tell anybody your problem. Don't care that all are really happy you have them. What's your favorite word? Fuck? Yeah? If you could be any animal, what animal would you be. Come on, you know what I gotta say on that one. But maybe it's not that one. Maybe it's a different one. Maybe it's like a platypus or like something weird no one ever thought about. You're like, dude, no one knows this,

but I really, really, really uh um. I would have to say a shark, I guess because I'm on Pisces as well. I've always related to it, good old Pisces. If you can live anywhere in the world other than New York Miami, Yeah, what's your favorite song from the nineties? Paid in full? I don't know if that's that's eighties, actually Rocky, I'm paid in full nineties? I don't know. Sorry, what's the last lie you told? The last lie that I've told. I'm not going back to Golden Corral again.

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