Hello and welcome to Big Gay Energy. I'm Caitlin. And I'm Fiora. Come along with us while we dive into the fun and nuances of queer media. Representation matters, and we're. Here to talk about it. Cheers queers. What's on the big age end of today, Theora? Today we have a very special episode dedicated to one of our favorite series, the Loyal Pin Woo. You all been wanting it. Yes, it. Was coming, right? Here it is. Oh, I hope you knew it was coming. We were like, what is this?
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So to people have been asking us like are are like, hey, we're excited for you guys to like get into the loyal pin and like normally we do deep dive episodes, but that is not what this is going to be because we don't have time right now to jump into the loyal pin in a deep dive. We it would literally take us six months to cover the loyal pin and a ton of tiger love shows have come out that we really want to talk about and highlight.
And just in case you've never seen it to be like, go watch this because it's awesome. And the loyal pin is one of them. So this episode is mostly just going to be a what did we love about the series? And we're specifically going to talk about the series that was created by Idol Factory that stars Farina Becky, because we did deep dives discussions about the novels. So this is literally just going to be about the series. We're not going to compare it to the novel.
It's just about the series. So that's what we're going to do today. It's just an overview of what we loved. And we also asked you what you what you guys liked about it. And so we're going to talk about what we like and then what everybody commented to us about what they like. And that's what this episode is going to be. Yes, so thank you for sharing your thoughts too. Everybody did that either through Patreon or Discord or on social media. So make sure you're a part of our.
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I would like to say that that something that I loved about the series is that it's hands down Idle Factory's best series. Yes, Idle Factory's best series. Like wow, is that production company or studio come a long, long way with the girl of productions like coming from gap to Idle to like the oil pin. It's like night and day and it's amazing. Like the if you watched our reaction videos, I think pretty much in every reaction video we say how flawless the production
was. Like yes, it's visually gorgeous and they clearly put a lot of time and effort into it. And so like, if anybody from the crew was watching this for some reason, thank you crew members, because the costume like the like everything, the lighting, just it was so good. Like everybody put their heart and soul into it. And it's a beautiful television show. And we only saw a couple spotlights. Only a couple I know. What a step up, Yeah. Yeah, like that is a. Change.
What a change we say that. Lovely. Yes, it's. A different directing site. I do love seeing it as well because I'm like, oh what light did they use? Generally, you're not supposed to see the light source, but you know. I'm interested, so I'll take it. Yeah, these are choices. Like they did a lot of really cool transition shots, like with the windmill and like things like that that like went with the little paper windmills they made.
And so there's a lot that went into this that was just really, really fun and awesome and made it a great adaptation. And of course green Becky like, of course the acting was also super on point. All her faves from Idol Factory were back and doing doing their thing and like to see them grow as actors from like gap to this was also really amazing to watch. Like their range was fantastic
during this series. Like they were very, very happy moments of like, really devastatingly sad moments, and they just like executed everything super well. I feel like the acting has significantly improved. I mean not only OK, so to be fair freeing didn't wasn't able to show a lot of emotion in gap. True. She's like more repressed characters in both series. Kind of. That's true. Yeah, so she was able. Yeah. I mean, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Sam did cry, but yeah, Sam was more neutral face. Yeah. Where pin is kind of like reserved, like protecting herself, but also just the way that the organization. What are the words? I'm sorry? The way that the hierarchy is basically. Yeah, but you also just saw more of her depth. Oh my God, but.
Especially Becky because her acting has become way more natural as well because you can kind of tell it felt like she was kind of nervous in Gap and I believe I heard that she was still like learning Thai for it. So I think there. Was just too. Much for her to think about while filming and it just seems like she's able to have more fun and not be as nervous and just go in and play.
Basically, yeah. And can we talk about how the fact that the actors had to play like cuz like in the beginning of the show, they're teenagers and then they had to range into adulthood. So like it's already a big range because the ages they had to play. And like Speaking of Becky, her like childish faces that she kept doing to be like this character is young were fucking hilarious. Like so on point, but like hilarious cuz I'm like, yeah, girl. Like you're just like being like forever.
This is a child. Yeah, OK. So I think in the reaction videos, I also said this. I'm not a huge fan that they had them be the teens. Well, like, like the children, teens, teens, yeah, the child. I understand why they. Had child actors. We'll say that because they had children. Children. But like, Becky and Free were teenagers. Yeah. In a second. Oh, for sure. For sure. That's a different thing.
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, OK, so them having to play a lot younger than the later, I understand why they had to do that because the whole first book is that age. Group right? That age range so they wouldn't have Free and Becky until what, 4 episodes in? Right. Were you like in What's happening? Yeah, and that would, first of all, that would piss off
everybody. Everybody, yeah. But I have to say Becky did do a great job because going back and watching it, you could tell she's a little more bouncy or she's a lot more feisty. When she got adult, she's like so feisty. I got. Power over. Everybody but yeah and like. Yeah, Becky nailed the Becky nailed the child stuff and it
was really, really funny. And but I do like credit to freeing too, because pin goes on this journey from but being like the innocent, quiet, ultimate introvert who's super reserved, like you were saying to like outwardly expressing her
emotions and desire. So freeing got to like really evolve pin throughout the show and like flex her acting muscles just like as the individual character, while like yeah, Becky had an in who's like this like off the rails troublemaker child and then like transforms into this really mature adult. So they almost like do like this backward kind of like inverse evolution, where like one goes from being like way too open to like more reserved as they mature.
And the other one is like so reserved to like being more open. So it's really fun to see them like kind of do that as each character and like Free and Becky did an awesome job of like bringing them to life and like really like showing us the evolution of these two characters over the course of like years. So like the show's fans years. So they had to do a lot of evolving and as actors they did a really good job.
I gotta say for freeing, being able to differentiate between the child, the teen and the adult is more difficult because basically it was the shy, reserved, don't say anything. So it was harder for her to make choices like Becky did with the different facial expressions because that wasn't pin. And then she had to take it from that to basically lusty, jealousy. Oh. My God, Which by the way, everyone, whatever happened to Emma? Did Pin kill Emma?
Like, whatever happened to like, we never got a resolution of the show. Oh. My gosh. Pin pin took care of business. So we never heard that, but that was selected off RIP Emma. RIP Emma victim #1 of pins irrational jealousy. OK, so Speaking of jealousy, like obviously free and Becky Dale, their chemistry also sold the love story that was like the really the center of this whole thing.
So like again, and they had more, it was a much different range from like coming from gap because that's what we're most familiar with free and we know they've been in other stuff to like movies and stuff, but we haven't seen them yet.
But like coming from Gap, like just sticking with IO factory, like they had again, they had to go from like the friends who were children into like this years long like type of relationship where they like basically knew each other as children that were separated, then had to relearn who they are as adults. So it's like it was a it was different relationships that were just littered throughout
this show of just them. And so they did a really good job of like really making each relationship as it kind of like formed and kind of like broke apart and formed, like really made it seem very real and authentic the way they played them as their characters, as the characters are different ages. So like just chef's kiss, well done. Like nobody else could have played these characters like truly like they owned it and like did an amazing, amazing
job. I want to go off of what you're saying about authentic and saying like how the show is so authentic. I mean, obviously we do not know first hand anything about the culture. We're learning as we go, but from what we see and know about the show, it's very much educating about the culture and the customs and the clothing. You we got to learn so much
through this show. Yeah, because unlike it's not modern, it's a it took took place in the past like not the Super far back past, but like 1940s, fifties, 60s, depending on where you are in the story. So like it was a different period of time for Thailand. And yeah, I agree. They. And there was like, there's a whole Twitter account that was dedicated to, like, pointing out all, like, the cool traditional stuff, even, like, the cars were like, of the time and like, yeah.
That's. Impressive. It's always impressive when you can get a hold of like those kinds of cars and like it's somebody's job to like track down the right car of the right time, like and all that kind of stuff. So they did an awesome job of like taking that famous house that's in every like Chao Plenoy novel, the the what we call the Bua Palace in all of our talks, which in the show it's confusing because they it was the main palace. Yeah, it's not.
It's just the, but it, it is the Bua Palace because it has the Lotus pond like in real life. So in my brain it is the Bua Palace because it means Lotus pond or Lotus Palace. And so like they took that house that we've seen a million times, like in in in Gap and everything else. And like really like we're like, no, no, no, this is what it would have looked like and felt like in this time period.
So like, yeah, like nailed it. I love watching all the cooking lessons and like, the fun fact of like freeing was like the best one of doing all like the like crafty tasks, like the dumplings. Like Becky was like, I suck at this. And like Free was really good at it. And like, which is funny because like, that's how the characters were. So it's funny that like the actors kind of took to it. Anyway, it was awesome. I just love that about it.
It was very fun. Like, period pieces can go awry if there's not a great attention to detail. So like, again, to the crew, to the cast, like good job of like sticking to the time period for which the show took place. Well done. I guess we can bring up now that part of the reason why the culture and customs were so accurate and portrayed in the show is a result from working with the Thai government. Yes. So the Thai everybody knows this at this point, I'm pretty sure.
But just in case, the Thai Ministry of Commerce signed a memorandum of understanding with Idle Factory to promote Thai goods and services internationally through the production of the Loyal Pin. And basically the partnership just aim to use the the Loyal Pins. Oh my gosh, the Loyal Pins platform. Yay, you said it. Thank you I'm having trouble with words today hang in there to highlight the culture, attire and tourism to boost Thailand's cultural export image so to
entice people to come and. As if we already weren't enticed enough. Yeah, I know, right, but. But also. I also learned because we always said, oh, the budget, they had a bigger budget because they're working with the government, this was not actually money. So this was just an agreement to promote, like, Thailand's culture through the show. That's cool. I mean, they could have given them grants or money towards the production. It's just not publicly released.
Yeah. So they could have helped with location access. And all these that would make sense. Or like, but yeah, it's not directly like they donated money to this production. It was more like we are in a agreement. Also, it's not contractually obligated either. I learned a lot about memorandums of understanding
when doing this. But through this whole partnership thing, it just shows how willing the Thai government is invested in the LGBTQ plus community because they're willing to put their name on a woman love, woman, girl love show. And that is huge, huge, especially because they just legalized same sex marriage. And this was showing them that they that that's the path that they were heading. And it's just really great to see that happen. Yeah, especially as Americans
entering the Dark Ages, like. Yeah, like this is. Just thank you, seriously. Not the country. You don't want the country. You just want us. Please. Yeah, anyway. Anyway, back to the acting. So I forgot, OK, wait, go back to the acting of the free Becky stuff, because I forgot to invention this like my favorite acting moment is the cloth metaphor scene, the way Becky nailed that.
And that's the scene where like, basically she's in in is with her family and pin and is like, yeah, no, I want to marry her. And like, basically that whole scene. And that was my one of my favorite moments in the books. I was really looking forward to seeing it.
And she just nailed it. And just learning the behind the scenes fact of that, the fact that there was a lot of dialogue in that for Becky. And so like the other actors were like super on point with their stuff because they don't want Becky to have to reset and do this huge monologue all over again. Because like the shots in, I've noticed in a lot of time, media is very like they're really long
scenes. And so like it's a really long, like it's almost like a play with the way that the actors have to like do these big scenes, like in one kind of take, like each take is very long. So like this whole monologue, Becky would have to like start from the beginning. And so because everybody was so like nervous about like Becky having to do this multiple times, they like nailed it on the first take because everybody was so prepared for it, which is just really precious.
Like from like a behind the scenes kind of like aspect that like the the whole cast was very like looking out for each other and like the leads who had a lot of dialogue in certain scenes. And yeah, just I love that scene in general. But like Becky nailed like the fierce dedication of NN and like all that stuff. And it was just so perfect that moment and just everybody, everybody was on point. But like Becky really nailed it. I'm appreciative of that.
It is insane how much of one take filming they do. Yeah, it's, it's a lot like I'm a spoiler. I'm working on it, a Pluto edit right now. And like, I'm like, like putting together scenes to like a song. And like in American media, like the scenes of like people like they do so much like cut, like cutting where it's like you get 3 seconds and then they like edit and it's either like shot, reverse shot or something where it's like the cuts are constant.
But like in the time media, like it's much, they really let them act for like a longer period of time. And it's just it was different making it 'cause I was like, damn, I have more to work with like. Yeah, it's yeah 'cause it's not directly cutting to the other person. Yeah, I mean. Exactly. Yes, there's more room to remember. For there to be like, for them to like express things like facially and stuff, it's not as
like quick. It's like they let the actors like actually act it out more like a breed where they have time to really like show you what they're feeling. And I really appreciate that. And like this show did it too for sure 'cause there's a. Lot they also have more shots that are wider, so they're both in the frame. So in American media it's very the over the shoulder shot is
like the most common. So you're only getting 1 actor in the frame at a time and the wide both person in the scene is more establishing the overall scene. So that creates basically when you're doing edits, an issue where you don't have a reaction to the other person or you don't have the person actually staying with it. And it's, it's a little difficult, but yeah, it is. It's quite interesting to see the differences between American media and Thailand, which I mean is a whole different
conversation itself. It's yeah, like, just like the directing style is different and just like the way they get let let the actors really act things out. That's different. And I really appreciate it. I think it does help, especially in a period piece.
It definitely makes sense to like because like the emotions usually in period pieces are heavier or like much like there's a lot more highs and lows and like the loyal pin definitely had those moments and they like really let the actors like show you the pain, you know, pain, pain. The loyal pain. The loyal pain for sure. I this isn't comparing to the books, but I just want to say
that they did a great job. They did a great job because it's fairly accurate to the books except the necessary adjustments needed for the logistics of filming and actor availability and to lengthen the story like they did pretty well with. I think this is a really great adaptation of it. Yeah, I agree, with the exception of the last episode because they definitely changed things just to create drama. That drove me crazy and I was like. Just like you don't talk about.
I mean, it's not the same as the last episode of Killing Eve. But. Just like you don't, we're not going to talk. About that, we're not going to talk. About that, we're not going to be hardly ranted. About that. One ranted about that reaction. We're here to talk about what we liked about the show. But yeah, with the exception of like the the finale, like yeah, it is. There's like a few things, but obviously it's also personal taste. Totally.
I wanted to see Theor did it. I wanted to see the brother and the cousin storyline. Yeah, I'm glad they cut that out. That was unnecessary. But yeah, it would have been funny. I'd like more weirdly. They definitely took a wholesome route with certain things and it felt very out of factory, honestly. They it was definitely them putting their spin on this, on this story and it's not as a bad
thing. It's just like, you know, it, it felt like gap in certain the the changes they made with gap the series or scap the novel. Like they definitely have their own like direction when it comes. Like vision is a better word vision for like their stories or their adaptations, which totally fine. Like that's that's what adapting stuff is.
But yeah, and and they paced it really well, especially for a story that had so many time jumps in it, like it didn't feel stagnant in any pieces and didn't feel rushed in any areas. I think they took their time and used it wisely for like like they planned out the timeline really well of like this story from starting at I think it was like 1314 to like ending like years, you know, many years later.
Like they did a good job spacing it out for like the amount of episodes they had and they got like more episodes for any other like Thai girl up show that we've seen. So like again, another victory to idol factor who was able to like not only like up the production value of everything, but they also like increased the number of episodes. Like that was the confidence they had on this project and like it definitely paid off. Like it was wildly popular and
did a fantastic job. I'd be curious what the merge sales were like to be quite honest, especially for like. How many people bought the Bunny if you have. The Bunny. Can you let us know? I want to know who out there bought the Sasha Bunny because like that thing was so iconic. I love that they turned that into merge. That was my favorite aspect of the show because like, that's so iconic.
Like the Bunny, like the Bunny that was there, the Bunny that activates, like, yeah, I get your entire money. This entire timeline. I love it. I love that that was. Virtuous, I thank you. Unfortunately I can't remember who exactly who it was, but I don't know if you saw the comment but they said I'm impressed. That pins, it's pins, right? Childhood. Yeah, money looks brand new after. Oh yeah, after.
Many years, that's how. Good pin takes care of stuff, Duh. I mean, that is also great plausibility for this because pin wood pin. I mean, the Bunny had its own bed, right? No, like the end, it had its own like chair or something that it was sitting in when when they set up the like the kidnapping, which we have. So we have our own opinions about that this people disagree with us.
But like the kidnapping, that was definitely a change when she gets into the the shrine basically before and ends like by the way, we can live together now. Like Sasha Buddy is part of that whole like spectacle that she's like looking through like all the memories. And it's like sitting on a throne like this plush chair that's like designed for this tiny doll, which is what a detail like, I love it so much. Yeah.
OK. So now we have to give a moment to recognize with the these child actors, OK, because they did a phenomenal job. Yeah, yeah. Especially, especially. Little pin. Oh my God, we had to play the dead parent scene like Oh my God. Yeah. First of all, we'll start with that one because that was, I don't know if we got that like much of A description in the book for that, but I was really surprised when we got that scene and just hearing her like scream and cry for her parent like
that's. Oh my God. Oh my God. And it wasn't like a short. It wasn't a short flashback. Like she had like several minutes where this child actor is like showing you the pain and despair of a child losing their parent and like over like like for like a minute at least this child was like in agony. So like what a scene for a young actor to have to do. And it was really good. Like did a great job of like, Oh my God, poor kid. But I'm I'm concerned about the actor. I hope they're OK.
I hope. This was fun for them. Right. No, totally. But seriously, she she had to cry so much in her scenes. She's like I am. Cried a lot. I'm freeing. They cried a lot. Black. She needed to ask Becky more because Becky had all the crying and gap. Yeah, it is true. Becky usually has more of the crying so it's just like the opposite in this show and
trialed actor. But then with little an in too, the mannerisms of both of these kids matching the matching free and Becky it it was perfect because you could you see, like I love that because you could see, OK, they're children and then they grow up. I mean, that's why I'm having a little trouble with the teens and the adults, because it's the same person and they look the same. Because, you know, you can only do so much with.
Hair. Anyway, the the mannerisms when you first see little Annin and Tina Nin, they they're the same, The same personality, the same facial expressions. It's adorable. And of course, Pin's just. Crying. Pin's just crying. Pin's just crying, but they kick it off consistency. But yeah, like, again, that's like to your point, that's the challenge of like bringing to life the character that's more internal versus the external character.
But there's still, you know, the continuity is there for from child actor to free Becky and free Becky is the teen. Edition The Last Child did a great job as well. Oh. Yeah, yeah, the little piece. Yeah, I forget the name. It's similar to an in. It is well the play on an in because like, shoot, yeah, the brother wanted a baby an in. But they all did so well. They were so natural too. Yes, which is not really like not always the case for children, child actors, because
they were so professional. I love. Yeah, they did a great job. They deserve to be in those opening credits. Yeah, they do. They earn their. However, the last child did not make it to the opening credits. Well, I don't think. I don't know. I don't know. All right. Anything else about the children? No, that is all for the.
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What are you doing? Because we said that at the beginning. So we'll bully them into watching it. Yeah. Have you been trying? It's a great place to start. It's a great place to start. All right, Speaking of a great place to start, I don't know why this took us so long, but lockdown playing prick. Oh. My gosh was so perfect. If anything there is nothing
more perfect than that. Like I remember reading the book and being like and knowing that Free and Becky were going to be the leads and being like God lock em would be perfect as prick. Literally reading prick. I was like she would be absolutely perfect. I would destroy this character and like embody it and she did and she is prick. I just want to say theor's not overstating that either. Like I didn't.
Know what the loyal pin was yet and then I was like learning about it and then I read the books for our episodes so Theora immediately told me that there's someone in mind that she wants her prick and I was like oh I know who prick is and then as soon as I told Theora she was freaking out so she she always had look them in mind for. She's perfect. She's fucking perfect as a prick. Like the ultimate Comic Relief. The like prick is so funny, so
neat. Victim is not afraid to go for it. Yeah, I know. They don't care about what people think. Just yeah, committed. Committed. So committed to every single thing she does that it is amazing because I don't see Jim when I look at prick it's. Yeah, no, it's prick is prick. Yeah, exactly. She just like, is like, like her comedy is what a comedian is so funny. The facial expression. Oh my God, it's somebody or line delivery, like body language, like everything. It's just so perfect.
Like there's literally literally nobody else that could have played Brick. Like nobody. It was always her. She is brick. She is prick, she is our prick and will forever be our prick. We are always be loyal pricks. I I want to keep talking about her because I just love. Her. I love her so much. Do you have a favorite prick moment though? Because I have one. That's my well. I'm my favorite. They're all great. Prick stealing food. I think the rivalry between Prick and Pia in the beginning
was quite funny. That was funny. That was funny. That was a great addition now that we look back. I will say, OK, so my favorite moment, 'cause I wasn't expecting this. It was like the first big prick moment was the ghost scene in the beginning. Oh yeah, I was about to just. Bring that up the ghost scene. It was so perfect. It's like the OK, it's in. Like I forgot it's the first episode or second episode. It's the first episode. It was the first episode, OK. I just couldn't remember.
It was because it's like teenage and then teenage prick, just there was if you ever needed a scene to encapsulate their friendship, it's that scene where like Pin is just walking and then these morons come over and like trying to scare people on the property and they're dressed up like ghosts and shit. And then Oh my God, it's so funny.
Like they're ridiculous. So that was probably one of my favorite prick moments because I wasn't expecting it and it's the perfect encapsulation of that friendship. And but my favorite like prick and pin moment is the the scene where pin is like fuck this ring and she throws it outside the window and Prince like damn it, like she's like you can sell that shit. Like it's so prick.
It's not even funny. And the way I love them is just like talking to herself and she's like, I'll just go get it later. And I was like, what are you saying? And she's like, what? Nothing. What? Every scene that she's in is amazing. It's. Really hard to pick. It's just the way she reacts to things. It's not even. She doesn't have to have any dialogue. The. Reactions make it. Perfect.
There was. I did an editing class and my editing teacher said when in doubt, cut to this actor who had a great reaction because we had to edit a feature length film. When in doubt, you cut to prick because she's always going to give you a great reaction. Yeah. Isn't that the thing that like a lot of acting, is reacting? Yeah. And it is because it's so easy to get in your head and be like, Oh, my next line is this. And then you just look stone faced.
So it's it's also what's conveying the story and the feelings of your character because you can't say everything. Yeah, just prick. If we can give you an award, ma'am and. When I got 1. I would prick. In the car telling off the brother. Well, her, her audacity matches and ends audacity. So funny. I love her. Unfortunately, we literally could have a whole podcast just about locked up. But we won't, we won't. We will move on to our next point. She's perfect. That was perfect.
But you know, my MVP for the show is Pia, though, because I didn't know what to think. About at the. Beginning she's my MVP because I was just like or rookie of the year because I didn't see this coming and I was just like, you know what, Pia? By the end I was like, you
deserve to be in the show. You would prefer really funny like this was like Sophia in the novel is mentioned, but like the show really like expanded on this character and like gave the character more lines and things like and like made the character a character and so like great choice. And it was really funny to have like multiple servants that were like ride or die for like this love story and just were hilarious inserts into the show like they did a great job.
I did enjoy Prick. Something else like? Yeah, I gave pricks more of a like a buddy, like a buddy cop situation between those two. Started out as like what like enemies to best friends like that was their arc which like they have arc like I didn't expect that like it was great. Yeah, so I'm like, it gives more of the character depth to prick. Exactly. It's just kind of like the right
hand. The Sidekick. In the book, but we got to see more and really flush out prick in the show and it's just really cool to see. And yeah, if you go and watch our reaction videos, we were not happy if he was there. No, we thought prick would get overshadowed but. No, but seeing them work together and playoff each other it was. It was so fun. Great, a great pair. That was a really good pairing. That was really funny.
I think it was the scene when they're packing up and they're like both riffing off each other. It was, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was great. I was like, please, more of this because this is amazing and really, really entertaining. Just these two. I'm not a fan of jealousy so I liked it more when they were playfully pissing each other off and like messing with each
other. When once they got into that phase of their relationship I think I definitely became more of a fan of Pia but also the two of these. Pin and Nin needed more people in their corner and just having the two of them. Totally crazy. Also the oh you know what great award goes to for doing the bare minimum to prick for getting the food and giving one to PIA when? Oh yeah, that was really cute and I wasn't expecting that. That's when you know Pia's really on the team is 1.
Yeah, that's the first moment, actually. Yeah, because she was upset that Pia was going on the vacation on to the aisle. Lesbos huahen and that was I think the accepted Oh my gosh OK, there's so much in this episode when. I know they. They they buried prick in. The Oh my God, I forgot about that. OK, but also in the Isle of Lesbos when like Anan and Pan are like making out and Pia is like can see them and it's like ladies like. And it's like, can you stop doing this?
People are watching you and they're like, ha ha, Pia. And it's like, girl, like if you're going to help her into your corner, listen to her and she's telling you. She's like, so what's coming? I don't care. It's like, why am I here? Right. That was also really funny. And it's like ladies. Yeah, I understand this is the Isle of Lesbos, but this is the 1950s. That might have been one of the best episodes, actually. That was because it was consistent. That was from the beginning to
the of great, great moments. Yeah, we'll get. Into one of my favorite moments ever is from that episode there's a lot of good ones I'll get into that in a second, but I want to go back to the 1950s. So other thing that I really love about the loyal pen, the story and the series is that like this is at its core, it's a love story between two women in the 1950s where they have a happy ending. Like they get to live in the end, they get to have a married
life. It's unofficial, but it's married with their adopted daughter. We never get this in like period pieces or even in modern stories half the time. Like I love this about the oil pit. Like it really delivered from beginning to end for the Sapphic people. And like, thank you for giving us this is what a beautiful story. Like, you know. Yeah, definitely. No, I love that we got to see the future, which is a constant between the book and the show.
Just seeing how they basically adopt their niece, it's just, it's adorable. It's such a cute little family. It is I will say though, in the book, not to not to do a comparison. I was hoping they would put this in there. But in the book, like the the little girl refers to pin as mom, like she actually calls them like mom and stuff and like mom and dad. So like it really was like they were married with this adopted child is basically how it ends and like.
That child wakes up, sneaks out and goes to there. And goes to see mom, Mama pin. Like, yeah, like, like literally thinks of them as like her parents. So like, again, to have this story as a period piece with that ending, like is something I never is one of the reasons I love the story because I never saw that coming and was like, wow, really? This is how it's ending. Like, like it's incredible. Like what a story like thank
you, Mama and idol factory. OK, And then and before we get into favorite scenes, I just want to shout out to whoever came up with the really clever transitions between scenes like and the symbolism behind some of these transitions. I'm not sure if this is the screenwriter or if this was like a directing choice. But like the way they kept using the pinwheel, like the little blue pinwheel as like a scene
transition. And they would use like the movement or lack of movement of the pinwheel to like give you a visual indicator of like and then in pins relationship. And it was consistent throughout the series because like the pinwheel was like this big moment when they were kids and like they carried it through. So whoever's choice that was like brilliant. And it would just it added more to the show. Like it was a great choice.
I love I love that they were very clever with how they like again, told the story in a visual adaptation. Like that's one of the things that I really like that they were just like, Hey, let's give you this like, because otherwise you're just like, what is this transition? But it like it meant something. So it was really clever and I like that a lot. It was there. I mean story wise, they really were killing it.
They, I don't know if they worked on it longer, if it was just more seasoned people who whatever, whatever the case was that up the scale of this production, they did a great job. Yeah, it was. It was excellent. All right. And Speaking of excellent, so favorite scenes, do you have a favorite scene? Do you want me to start a favorite scene? I have a couple of favorite scenes that I want to talk about. Yes, I feel like we've kind of talked about mine going like.
What was it? The I don't actually know, I just like all the prick ones or the best but that's that's the issue. That was my favorite scene. But I always remember one of the ones that you say but the tennis scene. But I think one of my favorite parts of the show was the expansion of the pad and in story. Oh my God, yes, that was multiple scenes. But yeah, I was really happy to put that in there because again, they it's really easy to look at characters and be like, wow, what a villain.
But then it's like, OK, but why is Auntie Pad the way that she is? Why does she make these decisions? Why is she so overproductive? Like, and that really added a lot to this character that like, again, you're not focused on her because the story is really about Pin and an in, but it's like she's impacting Pin's life. And so I'm glad they gave her the opportunity to be like, This is why her past is like the way that it is. This is why she's acting this way towards Pin.
And they're more similar than you think. And also like it gives you a glimpse of like, again, period piece. So we're going back in time further to be like, OK, like if in in in pin story was in Auntie, like when Auntie Pad was a kid in that time period, how would have this played out? You know, like it made me think along those lines too. Like it would have been harder for them to do what they did and what they already were doing was really difficult, so. I believe it was only a bonus
chapter in the book. Yeah, so. This is. Not yeah, yeah. But it's like hinted at a bunch of times and you just like, you're like, why is she playing with this ring? Like they keep Mama keeps writing it, so it must be important. And then like Mama's like, here's why. So like Idle factor is like, OK, cool. And they just like put it in the show to like make it linear. Yeah, I'm just saying like they didn't have to do that and it just, I'm really glad that they
did. They made it less sad though, and I. They did just go to end it. No, it was, it was a great segue. We you needed you needed to see more of Pad's story to be able to understand why she is being like at some places. It is still kind of hard to understand because she did feel the same way as Pin, but she also knows the repercussions of it too. There's a lot going on and it just gives you more insight into what she's thinking.
And it made it gayer. So thanks, Idol Fact yes, I knew you would do it. I knew you would do it. I didn't doubt you for a second to be like more gay stuff. Yes, absolutely. Here we go. Theora had all the faith. All the faith in them. OK, so my I have a couple of favorite scenes. I'll go chronologically. So when they were children. I really love the LOI Krathong. If I'm saying that wrong, I
apologize. The festival, which is early on in the series and 1st of so first of all, the lead up to the festival involves an amazing prick moment where pin is like in the garden, diligently making like it's called Krathin for herd. And then like the what they put in the in the water to like as the part of the ceremony to float. Meanwhile, like so pin is like the diligent 1 putting this thing together that they're going to use in the festival meanwhile, and then is playing
like army soldiers with prick. And the scene is just hilarious because they're just like running in and out of windows, like and like the way they're like playing with each other and like playing soldier is so funny, like these ridiculous humans. And like again, the acting was hilarious in the scene. The game with the little things that they were shooting off. Right. Yeah, off of the like. Yeah.
And I don't think came back later with the with the niece, they did it. Yeah, it's just like the game that's like, yeah, it's so fucking funny. But like, again, the whole thing, the whole scene between and and and Prick is just like it encapsulates again the beauty of their relationship and how like they really were friends at the end of the day. And yeah.
And so to continue with this, like this is all taking place like this army soldier game and like the festival is taking place right before and then goes abroad. So there's like this lingering sadness happening because like, and then it's going to leave Prick and Pin. And so there's that kind of brewing in the background.
So when Pin and then basically they have to like sneak out of the palace to go participate in the festival in like the greater city area and pin who like never breaks a rule, like basically is breaking rules to go do this. And she's just so excited to like sneak out and attend with. And in that she's like for the beginning of the festival, she's very like animated and like glowing and like alive, which is like, and Nin's impact on Pin.
Like she, she brings pin to life, which is really, really sweet. And Pin is doing this thing as a child and she doesn't realize that like by rebelling and like going to this festival, she was like, it's one of the first time she gives into like her own desires and not like what her aunt tells her to want. So it's a very liberating moment for Pin that like and then gives her. So like, again, like at a young age, they still have this like complementarily impact on each other.
And it's like really was well done in this scene where they're like in the festival. But unfortunately, like as they get deeper into the festival, Pin thinks she sees one of Auntie Pad's friends. So then they have to like get out of there and like she starts panicking.
So and then takes control of the situation and like diverts them to like get this more secluded area because like and then always has this instinct to like protect pin, like and then know she's privileged, but like uses the privilege to protect pin a lot of the time, which is something that I do appreciate about her. So then then we get to like my favorite scene where they're like in the secluded kind of area by a lake and it's just the two of them on this little dock.
And like Pin is pretty insecure now because she feels like she ruined the festival for Anin because she's like, now we're in this like, you know, lesser body of water. Like we were going to go to like the big river and like make the big like offering. But Anin assists. Anin says, like, well, as long as I'm with you, any place is good for me. So it's like, again, the cuteness already, like the dedication that's already there as children is so, so cute, so, so cute.
And I love it. And from the very beginning, from the beginning. And again, again, this is on the cost of like, and then leaving. So it's like even more significant that they're having this like private moment together rather than like being in a big crowd. And so in this conversation and then admits that like she wants to cherish every moment with Pin before she leaves. And then and then starts getting teary eyed, like she's about to
cry. And like, this is the part part of the scene that I really, really love because this is one of the first times that Pin witnesses how much she means to Anin because like, yeah, they've been friends. But like, Anin is set up in the story as the girl that has everything. And she's the girl that's always smiling. She's the girl that's never sad. So like for Pin to like know that and then see and then getting sad over her is like huge.
Like that I think is a as a like a shifting moment and just depicted by like 1 character getting really sad. So I think it's really important that Pin got a glimpse of this at a young age to like it really sets up their entire relationship just from this little scene that they're having on the dock. And this is also the moment where and then it's like, I will write to you every day, I promise. And like does for years. Does not break that promise, never breaks the promise ever.
And then? When she's about to come home and surprise. Yeah, what? She lied. Yeah. It was pissed, which was funny. But then we get like one of my favorite shots in the entire series is when they go to like place the Krathong in the water and like they both lean over the dock and you get like the reflection of them from the lake and like it's just visually beautiful. The two of them. They're doing it together. Like it's almost like they're like feel like a promise to each
other at this moment. And it's just it's visually stunning and the acting was really well done. And it's like them as kids too. So kudos to everybody. Like I love this moment. I thought it was really well done and like sequentially and all the lead up and it was just I love this and with the. Reflection in the water. It's kind of like they're capturing a moment in time, yeah. Like it's like taking a photo in a way. And like this is such a core moment for their relationship as well.
Yeah, I love everything about that. It's so just beautiful. It's so beautiful, I would lose this. Festival. I love water reflection shots. Those are some of my favorite, and this one was just on on point and the other scene I want to highlight from the show that was so well done is back to the Isle of Lesbos. So one of the scenes that I love from the Isle of Lesbos was the proposal on the beach. First of all, this was so extra and I just love it.
Everything about it was but also like and Nin did does all of it. She's the one that's she's the she's the one doing the proposing and it pin is just kind of showing up. I like getting showered on with Anin's love everything about is so sweet and beautiful, but like it's so extra and it's like Anin the Princess is basically treating pin like the Princess
and it's what she deserves. So I love that and like the horseback, like everything about it's so extra, but I love the actual proposal when like like they do horseback riding to get to the location and then she yeah, yeah, webcam thumbs up for this. And then Anin leads her to the Sasha Bunny Sandcastle is what's holding the again, the iconic doll. OK, the way it's like not only merch the Sasha Bunny was what held the ring.
So like it was like the wing thing for like Anin to do the proposal and she's got like, it's got like a heart of like shells. And then on the Bunny, it's got the A&P like with a heart like it's so extra. It's like, and then when what, how early did this girl get up to like settle their shit up and be like, OK, high tide comes at this time because like, imagine like she brings her over here and like the waves in a way, like this could have been a disaster. Like there was so much planning
that went into this is my point. It's so extra and cute and I just. This was so funny. I love this. Speaking of planning, my question is who in the production team built the Bunny out of sand? Seriously, who built beach Sacha Bunny that looks like a. Lot of work. And to your point, yeah, I think it was pretty far away from the water, but it had to have been pretty. It's still close because it has to be a little wet unless they because those sand around it looks the same.
I mean, she had to like really plan this out and be like, OK, this is going to I had to put this in a place where the tide's not going to wash it away and like get all these well, I should probably have help with prick, I assume at Pia who like gather all the seashells. There is so much that went into this. And like, remember, she wasn't planning on doing this at Hua Hin. She just got pissed off about Kua and was like, well, I got to stop him from like sniffing around pin.
So like I'm going to do this earlier than I This is the spur of the moment like detailed proposal. So like, again, the woman had mad game is all I'm saying. Mad game. I could see her sending Prick and Pia together having to do this and then they have to work together to do this. And it was like, I forget if it's right, if it's before or after Prick being buried in the sand, but if it was after that, like Prick would just be like.
No more sand for me. Well, that but also like being annoyed at PIA the whole time too. So it's like you're having kind of like that scene at the, I think it was at the a party and like Pia was like doing things well and prick was kind of jealous or annoyed or trying to compete with her. I feel like that that was it. Who can find the most shells in a minute? Oh my God. Where's the deleted scenes of them helping with the proposal, which I love. OK, wait, so back to the proposal.
So then like, OK, so then Pin gets her Sasha Bunny with the ring. And then I love when Pin says this moment is like a dream, a good dream. Like it's just to clarify, she's like, I have a lot of bad buns. This is a good dream. OK, poor pit.
Like again, the trauma that is pin in her life, which we don't have time to get into, but like, OK, but I love that line because basically this is like a this is like a fairy tale situation that like an in pulls out of nowhere and like, yeah, like and what I live in at this moment on the beach because like, again, it's just them. It's them and a horse who's not paying attention get to the horse in a second.
But like this is like a moment of like what their lives could be like without all those outside influences because like, again, the the reason they're here is because of an outside influence, because Kuo was making and in feel insecure and stuff. But like this is what their lives could literally be like. It would just be this beautiful, sweet, happy life where they can just be themselves. And like, it's so pure and wholesome and, and adorable.
And my absolute favorite part is when they start making out and the horse in the background gets bored and starts wandering away because like, it's a fucking horse on the ocean. And it's like, what am I supposed to do here? Like tie it down? Just let the horse go? Doesn't the horse start? Walking into the ocean too. Yeah, like the horse just start fucking off like halfway through this. It's like I can't handle this. I'm walking into the ocean. Goodbye.
Yeah, like, and it didn't plan for the horse and she played for everything else, but yeah, what? It's such a it's beautiful. And like, again, they shot this daytime at the beach and like the sound was on point. Like, again, back to the production being absolute perfection. There's a million things that can go wrong with shooting on a beach and they did an amazing job and just it was this was
such a fairy tale moment. You know, if like queer Disney exists, it would be this scene of like everything about this. They had the drone shot of them on the horse like it was so beautiful. Everything about this was stunning, beautiful, and it like again, perfectly encapsulated this moment, which would like a dream, a good dream. It really felt like that, like watching it and just the extraness of the Bunny proposal was so cute. It's adorable. I just so extra. I love it. It's amazing.
It's amazing. And then I do like that we get the parallel like proposal scene from Penn where it's like they're at a Chow Yuengfo's place and they're all in like the traditional garb and like this is what anti pad catches them or whatever. But like they had their own private moment that was also really beautiful too, like pens. This one was just really extra and just fairy doll like that really. It's and then what do you expect? Exactly.
I guess the last scene that I'll bring up is again, another prick scene when Prick is hiding the package from PIN because Pin asked if there's a letter, not a package. And it's just hilarious. And I love seeing the relationship shift because PIN Prick has to be there for Pin now. So seeing their dynamic with a NIN removed, it's just it was really cool to see.
Yeah, that's what made the ring scene later really funny where she's the confidant and like and is like fuck this ring from Kua and she's like, you could have sold that. What the hell? I think their relationship was also really. OK. Wait a minute, I'm sorry there's a million prick scenes that are funny. But Speaking of pin and prick, the kiss scene where Prick had to deliver the kiss also executed to perfection. Yes. That and like the whole kissing lesson, A plus.
Oh my God, the kissing lesson. That was absurd, but so funny. There's there's a lot. There is a lot. There's a lot. It was just. Speaking of a lot. Yeah, so that was a lot, but that's what we liked about we. Again, we can go on and on about the loyal pin, but we want to give our listeners the time to shine about what they thought about the loyal pin. So we did pose the question on all of our socials and everywhere to be like, why did you like the loyal pin?
Tell us and let us know. So we've come to that. So we'll start with Patriotic. And they were super excited about the loyal Pin. So EP says #1 Free and Becky Magic. Yes #2 period pieces is one of my top genres. And as we said, they nailed it #3 learn more about Thailand, cuisine, history, customs, holidays. Seriously makes me want to travel there soon. That influence and Thai soft power has got soft power. They got the heart. Yeah. Yeah. Thailand is trying to change words and minds.
OK. And then specifically about the story #4 good communication skills from both NN and PIN is too rare in the girl love world. Why do you think we love planks so much? Like we went on and on about Blank because they communicate and it was so novel to us. So like, yeah, dude, they talk. And it was great. And #5 which I went to Frank Tire, but I get it. Prick play by now. Yes, yes, prick play by now. Absolute perfection. Stop coming out to E PS rankings
still. All of your points are super valid and you're not just I'm messing with you, but like, yeah, literally all of that. OK. You cut out at the end there. I said love it, love it. That's it. OK, the next one is from AMIX New Monzone under score Molsey, thank you for being a big gay Ride or die member. They said this might be just a little thing, but I love that no matter what, you could always tell that pin in an in loves each other the most.
Well, unless you're pin. Cuz Pin's always jealous, yeah? Yeah, Yeah, that's right. Thank you. Thank you. It's. The jealousy. The last part is no one else was in the running emotionally for them and that yes that is definitely true. Pin didn't know that a nin know. Pin was insecure. So like, you know what happens sometimes people are insecure, you know? I also mean like Pin didn't even know that a nin. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No Pin. Pin is. But Pin's irrational.
Pin's irrational jealousy was entertaining again. What happened to Emma? We'll never know. If you have any theories about what happened to Emma, let us know. It is never addressed. OK Cassie Mirror, let's get into this. So number, there is three points here. So #1 it is the most beautifully filmed show. Check. Yes, with set design that rivals most TV productions, not just from Thailand. Yes, this is a beautifully well done TV show. Totally agree, the acting is for the most part superb.
I was sure that Freedom Becky could deliver. The real surprise are the vast number of supporting characters of course. Loch Ness Prick Charm as Pat Home as Prince and then and then, but the real study for me was sunjet as lady wing foot yes, whom I previously only known for my marvelous dream is you same, and those two roles
were like night and day. She she made what was supposed to be a rival to lady pin thoroughly enjoyable and reliable yes, let's talk about that character for a second. That character had a whole arc that was like a redemption arc that was wild. Like again, the side characters got to breathe in the show, which like I didn't see that was. 16 episodes instead of. Yeah, it's seriously the nature of having more time to let your side characters be actual 3
dimensional characters. Like first, yeah, yeah, she she went on a journey and like, was freed from her, like horrible male love interest. Like I forget the man's the actor's name Kirk, but like please. Like why is he always the villain? Be happy to be sure he's Kirk to us. He's Kirk from Gap, I forget his actual name. I apologize Sir, but like, you're always the man meddling with the women. Like that was his character in my marvelous dream in you. Also, he's always thinking
worse. In this show, though, he was gross. In this show, his character is awful. Which means he's amazing, but. Yes. I just feel bad that these are the characters. Literally let him be happy. May you be happy in your next production, Sir. We hope so. But yeah, that's a really good point. Like, yeah, the the characters were all really excellent and really fleshed out, which was great. And #3 the setting in 1950s Thailand giving gay gay Anna and the King vibes.
Oh yeah, definitely did. Which is a play and movies and promoting Thai culture and customs. I was low key tempted to visit Thailand myself. I'm high key tempted. I'll say that those who know how much I those who know how much I despise heat and humidity, not to mention long distance air travel, understand how big a feat that is. Again, way to go, Thai government. See, you're already people are
like tourism. Yes, even though your environment sounds like my worst nightmare because, yeah, I mean, no shade to tie light. As somebody who lives in Florida, which is tropical and hot and humid, like it's not nice all the time, but like, yeah, dude, you made me want to go there. OK so Michelle G says it is a show with some trauma but it's not the point of the show. Some the point is they love each other and they get there happily
ever after. I love a show with a great ending and that I don't have to skip too much angst on the rewatch. Yeah, that's so valid. You're right, the trauma is not the point, which is also. Except when they try to traumatize the character more. But. Yeah, and accept some changes that were designed to traumatize people. But anyway, like overall though, it's not the point and I I agree with that. All right, Kathleen.
I loved it because it was the best made girl I've ever watched in terms of production and cinematography, acting, etcetera. Yes, it's a great show even without comparing it to only grow UPS. Yeah, overall it's a very solid show. Like we totally agree. Also love that for once there was no toxicity. Also, yes, their relationship was well paced. Enough time was spent on it to be able to understand both the characters motives. Yeah, absolutely, totally agree with that.
Again, like it could be the power of having six, you know, 16 episodes versus like 6 or 8. Like some shows like struggled to tell their stories, understandably so, but I feel like they gave, they did like a good job of like giving point of view to like an in and pin in the show so that you you did understand like where they were both coming from, like when they were or when they weren't really on the same page sometimes so.
They really do that with all the characters though, totally in some way, except except the absent father. Yeah, he was like the McGovern a little bit, which is like he's a plot device more than a person. So hey, I agree with that. And also like middle brother, Oh yeah, no story. He had no personality. But like, he in the book, like he doesn't have a lot of a role as the oldest brother. Like Prince Annan had more of a role. But like, yeah, they were like there.
But everybody else had like adequate screen time for you to like understand their motivations, like Kathleen was saying. Yeah, Reina W says. I love the loyal pin because I got to see a love story that sprawled years. I love learning some Thai traditions with each episode. I was taken about great the storytelling was It wasn't just about lines being spoken, but all how certain scenes were directed. And the costumes also equally floored with how great Freene
and Becky's performances were. They really immersed themselves in these roles. That's true. 100 freaking percent. Yeah, so good. All right, thank you, Patreon. Now we're going to shoot on over to YouTube. We have one comment there. So this is ADD 8078. Obsessed with this show. Exclamation point, the cinematography, acting, dialogue and music. Oh yeah, the music. Yeah, I forgot about that. Earlier. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The jazz, Jazz, the jazz. Is a. Choice just all appreciate the
jazz that was the choice. I'm traumatized by jazz music now because of I'm like, when's it going to get sexy? Thanks, Lil. Then yeah, music thanks you too. All right, to continue with this comment, I love the 1950s setting, but the best part is the romance between NN and Pin Freen and Becky absolutely nailed playing a couple that's madly in love but still healthy and commutative. Yes, we actually get to see them just vibe and be in love more
than most girl love couples. Their dynamic is so fun and their personalities are super distinct. And NN is my fave, maybe one of my favorite characters ever. Yes, maybe we all find an NNN in our lives. That speech she gives comparing her love for Pin to the gold and silver thread fabric was iconic. Yes, it was.
And when Pin tells Annin's dad that even though it didn't seem strong, she's scared and doesn't want to leave her family, it shows how deeply Pin knows her and how she's willing to fight for her too. There are too many same great scenes to count. Yes to all of that. Oh yeah, Pin standing up to the dad. Wow. Like again, for Pin to even like think to do that was like young Penn would never even think that
thought. So like for older Penn to get into that scenario and like go through with it was humongous. She wouldn't even say that to Pat. That's. What I mean, like, I don't, I think Penn is the type of person who, like, if she had that thought, would chastise herself for having the thought, let alone doing it. So like, yeah, that was a huge
scene. Over on Twitter, Zebby 2334 says I loved how they allowed Anin and pin to blossom and grow into a healthy relationship where they actually communicated work through problems without unwarranted drama and toxicity. Except jealousy. Freen and Becky's chemistry, connection and trust in each other shows through in the performances. And I should say that I added the except jealousy part. Which isn't toxic and like it wasn't toxic the way they did it.
It was like Pin had a feeling and was feeling the feeling and being irrational because of the feeling. But yeah, they didn't do toxic shit to each other. I will say that because like, yeah, in Gap there was happening in the beginning of their relationship. Let us not forget that like that was a thing that was happening and it turned into a beautiful relationship. But there is toxic behavior. But like they're not toxic towards each other, which is which again, like it shows that
it's possible to have a drama. Would that be toxic just to create drama like a lot of like dramas, just like in general, this is not specific to any region of the world. Like a lot of times they're just like, oh, how do we make this interesting? Let the characters do horrible shit to each other to make it interesting to create like, you know, like L the L word would do that shit. And they're like, this is too happy.
Let's like let them cheat on each other or like stab each other in the back just because like that'll create drama. It's like, do we need to be doing this? Like if the story is like, well thought out and like there's a situation there and you can make the situation bad, but like, you don't have to make your characters toxic towards each other. So like, yeah, that's a really good point. I'm glad everybody keeps mentioning that that is unique to the show.
That's really great. Lana Swan brought that up in our interview that a lot of shows are like, oh, I good, I'm toxic, you're toxic to me, so I'll just be toxic to you and then that's OK. Yeah, and if you don't want a sword is want a sword is the screenwriter who adapted Blank the novel to Blank the series. So it has worked in this area. And yeah, like, totally. I totally agree. And like, some people find that entertaining.
That's why, like, reality shows are entertaining to people because it's people being toxic to each other. Like, oh, ha, ha. But like, if we're script writing shit, like, can we? Can we not? So thank you, Royal Pen, for being the template for not doing that. All right. And our last comment from Twitter is auditory disturb one. The loyal pin is an Immaculate representation of two women in love who had to fight for the simple right to love each other.
The entire production and the soft power is amazing. Paired with all the performances and music, it's just an amazing experience. So proud of free Becky. Like, yeah, like really, it's a simple message. At the end of the day, they were just fighting to be happy and that was like that first. Line, yeah. That that's perfect. Because that really boils it down to what this is. Yeah, absolutely. So thank you for that contribution.
Like I totally agree. So all right, well, those were all the comments we got about why people love the loyal pin. If you please comment below this episode or hit us up on all our social medias and let us know why you love the loyal pin. It's been a few months now. We've had time to watch re watch sit with it. So like, you know, why did you love the show? Why do you still love it?
And let us know because you know, we're always happy to talk about it. This was an incredible, incredible TV show period, as some people have pointed out. So like keep watching, rewatching it's it's a beautiful story. I'm glad it exists. Thank you to idol factory. Thank you to everybody that worked on this. Thank you to Mon Ma for writing the novels 2 like two of them. She kept it going.
You know, like thank you for that giving us because like again, if that first book ended and there was no more loyal bid, I'm Oh my God, Mon ma, Oh my God. So thank you for finishing the giving us the source material. This was a great story. Yeah. Any final words, Caitlin? No. We've said so many words. Yeah. And have you, did you ever learn the theme song? Oh. No I didn't, but I got the last note. I can sing it. Go for it. Can you do it now? No Sing it out singing with me, damn it.
I actually do not know how high it is, but I know I can hit it. I love it. I love that. Well, it's the first scene song. I don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's real? We haven't really talked about the music. OK. The first theme song is the one that Caitlin was like, I'm going to learn this and then never learned it. But then I love the I do love the Free and Becky song that they sing for the show. The OSTAI think they original song for the show.
It was really good. I love the musical instruments in it. They harmonize very well together, their voices. So like I do like their song as well. Like to as other people have pointed out, the music was really good at the show. Again, the jazz traumatized me, but like the music overall was super. The jazz traumatizing because it just came at scene, certain scenes, and I was like, Oh dear,
let's let that happen. I want to just say in my defense, when I said that I would learn the theme song, I said also said. But I probably won't because who has time for that? OK. No, it's valid. It's valid, it's valid, but that means rewatch. Gotta rewatch and learn it.
Caitlin Motivation. Maybe one day, maybe, maybe there'll be a big energy After Dark over on our Patreon where I finally learned the song and I'll just surprise you in one of the episodes and be like, hey Fiora, guess what I got. An ode to the loyal pin, to the music of the loyal pin, I mean. So look out for that Patreon, maybe we don't know, might come to you. So thank you. So we hope you enjoyed this. You know this. We know this isn't our normal like scene by scene breakdown or
things like that. But we just wanted to be able to give a shout out to like a lot of the shows that have come out recently that we really enjoyed and I think deserve a spotlight like the loyal pin and we'll be covering other shows that have come out kind of in this format. So let us know if you liked it. Didn't like it? What shows you want us to cover?
Like, yeah. Just to give you guys a little bit of a heads up because right now we're also in the middle of doing heart stopper, which is not a tiny girl up show obviously. But if you like 23.5, I would highly recommend heart stopper because they're very similar in terms of like tone and content and queerness.
So like I highly recommend it. But we as voted by our Patreon members, the next show we will be getting into in a deep dive format like scene by scene like how we did gap and blank will be Pluto the series. So after we wrap up Heart Stopper, we'll be jumping into Pluto in a. There's a lot going on in that show. I just can't wait to talk about it because Oh my God, that's a show like damn, OK, we're not going to get into that here, but like we'll be getting into that next.
So that's what's coming up next. And we'll be doing like reviews like this for a couple of other shows that came out in between. So I don't know which ones because we're still deciding, but I think the secret of us is going to be 1 of. Them, yeah. So that's it for the Loyal pin. Let us know what you think. We'll be back to cover cranium at some point. Just not yet, cuz it's not yet. Until next time, hydrate for lesbian Jesus. And get it up all over the place.
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