Hello and welcome to Big Gay Energy. I'm Caitlin. And I'm Fiora. Come along with us while we dive into the fun and nuances of queer media. Representation matters, and we're. Here to talk about it. Cheers, queers. What's on the big agenda today, Theora? Today we are back to talk about Blank the series because we just can't help ourselves. So this episode will not be a scene by scene breakdown like
we've been doing. This is a super special episode where we will just be appreciating everything and anything about Blank the series and perhaps speculate on what happened after the novel slash the show ended as requested by our lovely Patreon members. And also today we have our friend Natasha joining us. Welcome to the podcast, Natasha. Hello, Thank you for having. Me, I'm very excited to talk about everything Blank the series. As are we, Yes. Thank you for joining us.
This is going to be amazing. So we found. Natasha off TikTok. Because as soon as I open the app, your video came up and it was like, I need people to talk about Blank too. And I'm like, well we talk 6 hours a day basically. About this SO. Yeah, I did not think I had previously already kind of like made a little video about blank. So this one I was just like, let me just see. And I did not think it was going
to reach maybe a few 100 people. And so I was just like, Oh my gosh, there's too many friends but. Yeah, that was great. What was your introduction to Thai Girl Love series? Honestly, it was maybe a week or so before I made that video. I started seeing P5 on my For you page just everywhere and I was like what is this? And I was like who is she? How? Do I I. Was just yeah, I was like. Yeah, I was like. What am I? Yeah. I was like, what am I seeing?
Like, I kept seeing that. I guess now that I know it's the fan events with her and Yoko. And I was just like, who are these people? Are they a couple? Who is this woman a PIF? I, you know, I am first of all, I am attracted to so many different humans. So I saw her and I was just like immediate, I was like, who is she? And so I just was like Googling and was like, what is this? Somebody tell me? And then I found that it was a show or a book at first.
And then I was just like, OK, well, how do I watch it? And so I'm, I feel like I was just like asking anybody and I found the YouTube and I was like, and then I benched it. As you should. Yeah, now that that's an amazing journey to discovering Blank the series. Do you want me to answer this Caleb, or do you want you want to answer how we discovered Blake because we've ever gotten into this either, although our listeners right now.
Well, I don't know how you discovered it, 'cause I think you knew it. I discovered everything through tiara. Yeah, I just like tiara stuff is all. Tiara. So you go ahead with. The basically our listeners recommended Gap, the series that's like the gateway Thai girl show. I feel like it broke the bold and like made everything super popular. So we started covering Gap. And just recommended though Theora they were talking about it for months like.
Yeah, yeah, like repeat. It took us a while to cover it after it ended. And so once we finally got into it, Blank was done filming. And so there was like rumors going around that the Sam's sister is getting a show and
it's like going to be a show. And so I was intrigued because we were like halfway through Gap at this point and I was like, OK, well tell me more about the sister because she pissed me off and Gap. So I'm so glad it exists because first of all the casting like you said, and second of all it gets into something that like I felt was lacking in the first Tiger Love show we were introduced into. And so here we are, still talking about it many months
later. Yeah, I do have a question for you, Natasha. What shows have you seen? Cuz I know you've been starting to dabble into some other shows as well. Yes OK, so Blank was my first one and then I did start The Secret of Us and watched like a few episodes. I didn't get into it as much, although I did like it. I probably will go back, but I'm
currently on gap. So I'm on like episode I want to say I think I just got to episode 7 and I've already told people, I've already heard people tell me they want me to react to episodes 7:00 and 8:00. So I plan on like recording. I guess that comes like sounds super intrigued by what that means. And so far, so far that's what I have, although I have a list to start after. Like I've been told the affair should either be next or the loyal pen. So I think I'm gonna do the
affair. That one just seems kind of more up my alley. So I'm going to start with that one. It's. A it's a journey. It's also a journey. It's a journey and it's and it's shorter. So like you can. And I did, yes, I did hear that as well. And I've kind of, I'm also a reader and so that's my other like thing I do. And so I've had to kind of like slow down on my like watching. So I'm going slower than I did with Blank. So it's taking me a little bit longer.
Yeah, I mean, it is fun to compare and contrast like some of these novels. So. So one version is inevitably more unhinged than the other. And so it's fun to like be like, wow, OK, well, where'd this come from? Because I didn't see this. The other version. It's fun. Yeah, I do want to read them too. Like I've been asking people where I can read them and someone gave me a little site to like, kind of read them in English. So I do plan on doing that as
well. Because I just find that, you know, I just want to be like, oh, I want all of them, and I want the actual novels for my collection. That would be great. Me too. If anyone out there knows how to get physical copies of the English translations, let us know. I also would like a. Physical copy if. You can't help it with Theor's books behind her, you can't see all of it, but she. I know, but. 1st. And I love that. I wish I was in my space.
I'm not in Myspace currently but I wish I was because like all my books and everything so I I love it. Awesome. So, well, Speaking of loving it, what do you appreciate most about Blank the series? OK, so this is probably why I asked if I could like say things because what I really so I very much love that the fact that they have AI think a good representation of AI would say a soft femdom and also a pretty good representation of a like
submissive brat. So I am very much into like kink and so I read about it. I have lots of friends in the community and everything. So it's like really I really like to find literature and media that I think represents pretty decently. And so I just really love that dynamic between those two characters. Like it was like spot on and so spot on that I was just like, I need literature. I've been asking. I was like, I need literature like this, like give me a book
recommendation, anything. Because it just you don't see a lot of like a femdom. You see it more of it like being like assist man character and you don't always get it in like a female or a woman. It's just it's just that energy is so different. And I think the actress people like I think she just her energy gives that like she just even walking, doing hair, she embodies it and there's nothing. So it definitely comes through in blank.
Like it's just like so natural and I'm like, I'm overwhelmed. We call that big gay energy that she has. Yes, she does. I love it. Just has. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. I love it so much. I will say that, OK, if you go to read the novel, then you're going to like the blank novel because they go into that a lot more because in the novel you're in like we call her Big Nung, but Kun Nung's head, like she's the main character.
And they and she does have inner monologues and conversations with like Anung about the Dom sub stuff. Like they talk about it. So you will you will like the novel. It's much more like they talk about it and then like explicit in the scenes they have in there versus like, I'm not kidding that the show toned it down a lot. But like, it's much more. You go read the novel, you like the novel.
I just got chills because I love when a story like actually has conversations about it and it's not just like like it just happens. I love a nice conversation between a Dom sub situation and about what? My gosh, you just made my whole day. Thank you. So. Now needs to leave to go read blank. Yes, this. Episode is over expeditiously. Well, OK, so you just gave me a good segue into my favorite thing about Blake. First of all, fine, obviously.
And Yoko's hilarious. I just love her energy of just being a brat. And it's just like, you get to know her. You're like, that's just how she is. And it's entertaining. But I will say aside from them being great, the fact that the there's two characters in a relationship that just communicate, like that's what I love the most about the show, is the way the two of them just communicate because that's what
relationships are. And that's what like an intimate relationship really is like, yeah, the sexy stuff, sure. But like being able to like be vulnerable and talk about feelings and just they have conversations. It's just about life. And it's just like, I appreciate seeing that on screen, especially with queer couples because often we don't get that. Often queer couples are so bogged down by drama that, like, they don't get those moments to
breathe as characters. And the screenwriter really gave additional moments in the show where they just get to breathe and, like, talk and just exist as, like, a couple. And it's like thank you blank because not many shows do that. Yes, agree. Hard agree. Also, I will say to your point also, I do like your point about the Dom sub stuff, especially because it's it's women and that we rarely get that in queer couples either.
Like usually with women, it's always like soft and like romantic and like sensationalized and like all this stuff. But it's like, let them have a kink that's real. Like, you know what I mean? Like I appreciate this are like we're going to do it. I loved it, love it so much. Something I appreciate that I somehow solve very early in the beginning is how they have the characters reacting to their trauma and like embodying their
trauma. So I know a lot of people in the beginning did not like Yoko's character, but it's because big, OK, sorry, we say big Nung in little Nung and that's what I'm used to. So if you that's OK. So Big Nung and Little Nung have very similar trauma, but we see them portray it and affect them in different ways. And so Little Nung's trauma that it's what caused her to act clingy and like a child out of her house because that's the
only way she could be a child. Because when she's in her house, she is stuck in this box and I just, it's just really beautiful and I love seeing the differences in how it affects people. Oh yeah, I I really liked seeing big young just like those conversations that she had, like with her grandma and now also like watching Gap.
It's very interesting to kind of get a little bit more back story too, but it and it also seemed like more information about her other sister that you don't get in blank and you're just like,
oh, like, no wonder. Like she is feeling the way she feels and how she's kind of reacting and the more or less like going like no contact for the most part, like with her grandma and like what that looks like and just living her life and kind of like separating herself from what that was like her family before and like just live in her life. And then being that person for Lone Young, like to just be able to like have support and stability and being able to have
that kind of like secureness. It's like she like provided what Lone Young didn't have from her family. And then Lone Young provided what she didn't have from her family like that that acceptance. So it was just very nicely to see that together. Yeah, Acceptance, I think is like one of the main themes,
like this quest for acceptance. And they both like at home, like you said, at home were denied that and found it with each other, which I like that trope with when characters are written like that, words like they in each other they found was missing and like they're better for it and they find balance and things like that. They're very much that couple, at least for me. Yes, I like to call that like it's well in in my little book world found family.
I love a found family. Yeah, trope where you find people outside of your like core family and it just builds upon that. Like I loved seeing Liun Young and her friend group like grow and kind of that little just the little bit of that. I just, I just loved it all. I know. It's like, everything about it was so good. I just, yeah, OK, wait. To all the haters out there who were like, Oh my God, Yoko is so annoying in the first season, it's because the character is
supposed to be annoying. Like she was playing her that way. Because the character is supposed to be annoying because the story is written from Big Nong's point of view. And Big Nong is annoyed by this person with all this energy who's like coming at her with no chill. So like she's annoyed. So like Yoko did her job as an actor. To. Portray that. So good job, Yoko. You did a good job. And I just loved it because literally she gave off the inner
like seeing their dynamic. It definitely makes sense. I like I I understood like how she acted. I was just like, Oh no, like I don't know. She kind of acts this way too, because she knows it'll get a reaction from big young and that's what she wants girls just like yes, that's the dynamic. Like it's it works And I was like it works, but I loved it. Yeah, it's like an extrovert trying to get the introvert to like, I got to crack the shell.
So she's like, I got this sledgehammer I'm just going to keep. I was like, God damn, I go, I spent 30 years building these balls, right? Like, no, no, I'm not stopping, though, right? And we're glad she didn't, because that's why we're all here. Yes, I mean, it's also embodying the golden retriever and the Black Hat, which is a great dynamic as well. Yes, very much so. I love it so much. OK. So Speaking of what we appreciate, we also asked our audience what blank means to them.
And I think this would be a good segue to put it here. So I want to just read a couple of them. We have about 10, but I think it'll give us something to discuss as well because some of these comments are just very meaningful. So before you jump into it, just we've had so many responses, like overwhelming number of responses for this question that we put out on our social media. So like, thank you to everybody who responded.
We read everybody's comments and it's just, it's really nice to see how we're not alone and how much we appreciated the show and how it it like literally impacted people's lives. So thank you to everybody who commented. We only picked a handful to like read here, but like thank you if you want to, if you're interested, go find our socials and you can read all the comments so. I just want to throw that out. There and say thank you
everybody. Yeah. So also part of the disclaimer, like Theor said, these are only a few of the responses and I had to shorten them and summarize in some cases because they were very long and we very much appreciate the length that people were willing to share about themselves as well. It was very beautiful to read everything. So first up, our Patreon responses and our first one is from Leo.
So Leo writes one of my favorite scenes is from season 1 episode 6 when Juan Viva drops Big Nung at her apartment and Little Nung shows up. They have a heated argument and right when things get intense, Big Nung gets a call from Sam saying their grandma has died. I honestly think before that call Big Nung and Little Nung, we're definitely going to have angry sex. Probably because butts Big nuns MO, big nuns MO is like, this is a fight.
I need to shut this down. I'll weaponize my sexuality. She does that the whole show. Yes, I agree actually. I'm not at her, just just what she does and like as little. You're like, well, OK, I guess. I mean, there's a goddess coming at me, what am I going to do? They're acting in that scene as also like that was one of Yoko's best performances in Season 1.
Like you don't really get to see her flex her acting skills really up until that scene because up until that scene, she's playing the role as like the younger girl, that Big Nun's like, I don't know, like, but then in this scene you see her like emotional intelligence kind of come out and like just how frustrated she was with just the losing uphill battle she's fighting with big Nun. So like that was one of my favorite Yoko scenes. So I'm glad you highlighted that, Leo. Thank you.
We did have a response to this comment and apparently the P1, the CEO of Nine Star, confirmed that that's what would have happened. See, she knows. She knows. She knows what she's doing, the damn genius that she is. OK, so now this one's a little longer. This one's from Pooja. The scene where Big Nung meets her grandma for the last time really stuck with me. Her struggle in that moment is
heartbreaking. She wants her grandma to open up about Song to to say it wasn't her fault and maybe even apologize. Big Nung longs for love and acceptance, but her frustration comes from realizing she may never get the answer she needs. I also love how the show depicts such a healthy relationship. Once Big Nung realizes she is in love with Little Nung, her whole demeanor softens, adding Ka to her sentences, showing sweet respect and Little Nung.
She's fiercely protective and biting love in its purest form. I absolutely adore them both. On a final note, I got to know Phi through the show and her strength and perseverance really stand out to me. She's not only strikingly beautiful. And very gay. But she's also an incredibly humble and kind hearted person. There's so much goodness in her and that's something I truly admire. Same. Yes to all of that. Absolutely yes. 100% agree.
Oh, that was so sweet. I always beautiful IQ food yeah like again see it's not just us seeing the love of the acceptance stuff and like yeah again more trauma from grandmothers this. Is poor, but. No. Oh grand man OK so now our YouTube response is which you guys have great usernames. I'm going to be my best at K Pop Mooney 3973 Blank. The series was the first sapphic show I've ever watched in full.
Before that, I was a closeted queer, mainly because I'd never been in a queer relationship and didn't know how it worked. I feel ya. I even had some fear around it despite knowing I love women. Watching how the two women in the show navigated their relationship opened up a new world for me. It helped ease my fears and I feel 10% more confident as a queer woman. After the show and a few others, I even felt comfortable discussing my sexuality with close friends for the first
time. Thank you Blank, the series Phi Yoko and the Thai Girl of Industry for opening my eyes. That's the power. That's beautiful. Yeah. That's amazing. That's why representation matters, everyone. Yes. I love that. That's OK Beautiful. This comment is like why we have this podcast to like really show the meaning of all of this representation in these shows and why they need to be seen more. Because we need to be seen more.
Yeah, I also love that comment too, because like, really, when you look at the show, it's it's two people navigating their first relationship ever also, and it's queer and messy and just may your relationships not be as messy as this. They're just a blessing for everyone. Our first for it PRM. Wait for it, wait for it. We do have are. You ready for it? Done, done, done. All right. So, Caitlyn. OK, at Catherine Chr, there are
so many scenes that I like. One of them is in Season 1, episode 6. This is one of Theor's favorite ones as well, right? Yeah, the one after the funeral. For me, it's the first time that Big Nung realized that little Nung is a young woman and not a child that can console her. I love how Little Nung eases her pain verbally and physically to the point where she feels safe enough to break down into tears. Yeah, that's real intimacy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. The next one at Amaya 5635.
Blank for me is the best well played girl love series I've watched so far and the 1st girl love series that made me cancel my every Saturday night out just to wait and watch it till the final season and episodes. And I just thought this was. Relatable. So I yeah, yeah, girl. Relatable. Like refreshing YouTube, like where is it? This was actually, this is the first series that I watched live. Yeah, because we caught up while Theora was watching it.
So our break, our month break that we had was spent completely binge. Watching show. I couldn't imagine having to wait for it. I was. I didn't have to wait in between seasons like everybody else. The Origin. Listen, listen. And I didn't know there's going to be a season 2, so I thought that was the end and I was like, what the hell is this ending? How dare you? It's just open-ended. Like I don't know. They make it, will they not? They go their separate ways.
I was distraught. Also, they were mean at the in season 2, between episode 5 of the finale, they made us wait two weeks, not one. So I was just like. Yeah, they decided to have it premiere in theaters like as like a kind of fan event and so everyone could watch it on the big screen. So that's why they they delayed it a week. I get it. I get it. I get it. I. Wouldn't read the novel because I couldn't wait. I was like, I don't need to know what happened, I just brought it.
Yeah, I think that was right around when I visited the OR two. So it was like, oh, we have to change our plans for something now. But I get it anyway. I get it. OK. Our last platform that we have response from is Twitter and I have no idea how to say this, so I'm so sorry. At Sparta under score 12. I have had an incomplete love story in the past and during that time I got the teaser of the Blank series. Blank series is a series. By watching it, I put together
the pieces of my broken heart. All right, so now I'm just going to summarize the context for this. So they were in a relationship with someone where there was a 12 year age gap and they were the younger one. The woman was mature and intelligent but didn't fight for their love and left. And it has been a year, and they have focused on their studies, but they can't forget her.
Yeah. So that was one of the first comments that we got on Twitter. And I was like, thank you so much for opening up to us. We feel for you. And I'm glad that Blank can help heal people who maybe have relationships like this. OK At Molly or Molly yo 123 the scene where Nung tells OK, the scene where little Nung tells Big Nung to forgive herself for the things she still blames
herself for was excellent. Sometimes we blame ourselves and can't forgive ourselves for something that has happened. That was one of the best scenes. Yes, yes, that's the song scene. I love that. That was one of my favorite things. Not in the novel. The screenwriter was like, this needs to be in here. And it did. And so, yeah, that moment was like, the epitome of, like, emotional intelligence from little long to just be like, I, I see you. I see you're beating yourself up.
Like, forgive yourself. Like, I love that scene. It was so powerful. I love it. Yeah, sometimes it's hard to like, you know, it definitely shows. I think what's really good about communication, obviously in a relationship, because it's you're hardening yourself more than anyone else.
And to have someone be able to see your vulnerability and be able to, I don't want to give you permission, but it's, it's, it's very freaking to have another person who accepts you and sees like, it can see you and say, like, it's OK, Like I will still be here. It is OK. Because a lot of times you put a lot of pressure on yourself because you think it's going to push people away or it's going to do something to other people. So you are hard on yourself.
But when you have that significant other or partner who is just like, no, like that's not I am here for you. That's a, that's a big thing. And I think that's a really good thing that it showed in the in the series for sure. Oh, definitely. There's there's especially in that scene, there's the like little nong. Basically it was like, you know, you can cry in front of me basically, right? And like big Nong's like, can I do that? Like, it's almost like it never
occurred to her that like she. Could. Be completely vulnerable with anybody ever. So like, which is heartbreaking in and of itself to, like, watch somebody, like, grapple with that, you know, like, yeah, 10 out of 10, yeah. It also shows the emotional maturity of little known. Which is outstanding. She's the most most emotionally intelligent person in the show,
those adults. And I say, I say it's because she reads and watches stuff and listens to the radio, because there's no one in her life teaching her any of this. No, I agree. OK at Somnolent. Somnolent Panda healing as a closeted part of the rainbow, tackling issues that seem taboo to some part of our country, delivered that message well in clear and concise manner. It also became my rest long after long hours of work. I'm just glad that it can heal people like it's.
It's the power of media. I love it. I also like the I like the comment tackling issues that seem taboo to some parts of our country. I also that's a whole, that's a that's what art is supposed to be. Art is supposed to challenge concepts and give you something to think about in A and it's something that you wouldn't think about in real life because quote it's taboo. But if you put it in a fictional world, then it's like less taboo and it's more like hypothetical
than real. So I do appreciate that about these girl up shows in general, because a lot of them came out like before the marriage laws were going into effect and things like that. And so they, they, they were challenging norms. And I guess the novels those, those authors really should get more like the credit for that. Like they were quote, challenging a taboo topic. And so I think that is also important because that's that's
what art is for really. OK so the next one speaks facts at yo B1 EI. Love the proposal scene in the final episode, especially Yoko's acting during that part. It felt so intimate, so genuine and real and it feels so great to see Nung Squared being so happy after all the trauma and shit shows they have both been through. I love. Nung Squared I. Love nung squared, that's great. No, the proposal scene was really, I was just like, what's happening? It was like, it's just. And it was so.
It was just so sweet because she was so nervous. Oh my God, so nervous. I couldn't even like, keep myself together. I was just like, she was just so anxious and nervous. And I'm like, you know, because even in that moment, she was probably afraid or had fear that she would not want to. And I'm like, this girl loves you. Like, she's definitely going to say yes. But even then, she was just so nervous and scared. And I was just like, I just wanted to give her a hug. Oh.
My God, I know. That was really sweet. And it was so real. Like it was so very in character the way it went down to and I was actually amazing that like little Nong stayed quiet. I would expect her to like just be like, yes, before she even says anything and just like launch herself. But I guess like she's more of a Dakotan adult now and it's chilled out a bit. Maybe it was like she let her do it, which I I love because like, I, I think at that point they're, they know each other
extremely well. And so like being in that position, like you see your partner's like nervous and doing this and but like, you know, it's something they need to do. So it's like, I love that cuz it's yeah, yeah, it was adorable. And I love that they go back to the beach too, cuz that was their like, first getaway. So like bookending again, this was a screenwriter did this. This was not in the novel. Speaking of the screenwriter, you, you are amazing. Thank you for everything.
Thank you for watching. Our contest. For some reason I'm like, live. Streaming it, that was very, that was fun to see your story and everything. I can't believe you watched hours of us talking. Yes. You lived this experience. I don't know why you're living it with us, but we're we're it brings people together. That's why we're all here. Thank you for making this masterpiece. If you're listening to this for some reason, we love you. I mean, you might be, you might be.
That's awesome. OK, so the last one we have is at Ray Muffin. Love has no age, love has no limit. Love is the greatest strength we have and I learned that from the series. It will always be worth fighting for love as only it will be able to fill in all the blank spaces in our lives. I'm sorry, I'm singing in my head that blank's biggest baby and I'll write 5's name. Oh, millions of others. Yeah. No, that's just facts. That's just facts. And that's that's a really good
way to bring it on home. Thank you, everybody, for your participation in our appreciation episode. Happy to hear from you. OK. Now, should we move on? So while there's many things to appreciate, as we've seen from all of us and all of you, but let us ponder, is there anything you would change about the series if you could change something? Yes. OK, what is? That nothing to OK so one although I did not mind Yoko, I did not mind an age gap and I actually have no issues.
I read age gaps often so it was not an issue for me. I there were points where like I got that her outfit, I knew she was in like, like whatever school it was, but sometimes it just threw me off because she would be wearing it. And it just seemed very much like it was very like focused on this outfit and then how she acted, which I definitely understand, like how she was acting. But I was just a little and it didn't last long. I feel like it did like she it, they changed it quickly.
I don't know if it was from season 1 to see, I don't know. But it didn't last long. But there were a few episodes. I was like, I am a little stressed. Yeah. Yes, the Unicorn made it the age gap very obvious. Yeah like in the first like 2 episodes or so I would say I felt uncomfortable the first time I watched it. I'm like hat what do you want me to root for? Like I don't the 1st. I was trying. I was like, I hit it.
I'm unsure, but it definitely I'm I'm I'm glad I like I still liked it. I'm glad I like stuck with people to see kind of a progression. So that's one and then the other one would be I don't do time. I don't like time jumps. I don't like. Well, I don't mind the end as much as I've seen other people, but I don't like, I was really, it really stressed me out that length of time. Where am I OK to spoil things? Oh, yeah, they've seen everything. Yeah, yeah. They know I know perfect.
Well, I that length of time when she's in the hospital, I was not expecting how long she was in the hospital. That really stressed me out. I was just like, what is actually happening? And it was like 3 months. I was really stressed out and when it said three months, I think I audibly screamed like I was recording myself and I was just like, what are you? Because I was like, how long has it been like obviously like it's not been. I was like, what are you talking about?
And that just really I don't know. So that's I mean, it's great it part of the story, but I. I. Hate like that kind of thing, it just it, it makes me want to cry. OK so like speaking about the time jumps and screaming theor and I watched it, we do reaction videos to everything and there is just a clip of us going 14 years in the same. Yeah. Oh, me too. I did the same thing. I was so confused. I was so confused. I was like, what do we mean? What are we showing? Because it skipped.
It went from the the proposal and I was like, oh, that was so cute. And then something was happening and I'm confused and I'm like, oh, OK. And I was like, who are these people? And I was like, what did we show? I was like, I thought it was a preview of something else. So I was. Just like, I mean, amazing. We're plugging the next show, alright? That's what I was like, what are we doing? And then she said her name and I was like, no, what are like, who
are these people? I was like, who, Who is this? I was just kidding. He could poop. We were. Talking like with the hands holding and I was like, this would be a great transition. I did once, but it's still like 14 years. But also I would have liked and this is for every single show. And I'm sure Theora will agree. I I yes, give us a timeline because I don't know how much time is.
OK, what day is it? Listen, no, OK, I'm cool with the time jumps with the like this is how much time has passed, even though it's jarring. Thanks for thanks for the info. Cuz sometimes they'll just cut to the next scene and there's been a time jump and they don't tell you. And I'm like, what time is it right now? What happened? Like, how long have we been? Yeah. The time of many months later is not it either ID numbers.
Yeah, it's definitely, yeah. I want to know that when they go to a next like, episode or something, it seems like there's been so much time passed, but I don't know where we are. Like I think at one point I was like, I was like, how long have they been together now? Like what is where? It's because they seem more comfortable, like how long, Like where are we? So yeah, I agree. I would like to. That's what you gonna have in. General. Yeah, in general with.
Like a little bit more clarity. Yes, I need more clarity because like it's just the the the transitions are all the same so that it's like I can't even gauge with how you edited it if there's been a time change. Yeah, it's that's AI have with shows in general, but I've seen it. We've seen it a lot in like the Thai girl love shows where they just like because they're condensed a lot of the times from the novel, but it's like, please tell me what time it is.
Just let me know. Just let me know. Just let me know. Just show me a calendar in the background. Just something so I know what text is. Like the page is coming down something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just have them stand next to a calendar. Be like we're in. January put so many crossfades in there. Show the passage of time. Yes, they love a crossfade. They love a crossfade, Yeah. I have talked about it ad nauseam here, yeah. OK, Caitlin, what would you change if you could change
something? I would maybe not have the grandmother die, which is saying a lot because I was like OK cool, let's get rid of the grandmam we call. Nung. 'S grandmother, yeah. Big Nung's grandmother and Grandmam, Little Nung's grandmother and grandmother. So that's how we differentiate between the two. Because I just. I want Big Nung to get the closure.
Yeah, I agree. And I think it would have been cool if Theora was talking about how if the Grand Man was, he or she could talk to the grandmother about like accepting everything. And that would have been like a really cool scene to see. Yeah, I wanted that in GAP too, like like so yeah, I agree. Things things that I would change is that I wanted more like intergenerational or just generational conversations about like queerness just in general. So like, I feel like the grandmother.
So having the grandmothers console each other and talk about their queer granddaughters would have been great to see. Like, OK, that's the generation where this conflict is coming from a lot of the time with like traditional values and like versus like the youth trying to like change things. I would like to have seen those two characters have a conversation just to like, again, get a better lens of like, culturally what is going on in that generation.
Like as an outsider to this culture, Like that would have helped me understand the context for a lot of this personally. And I would like to have seen that. Similarly, I would have liked to have seen it in the younger generation. Like I feel like we had UE a queer person being queer and like no one seems to understand UE, you know, except like other queer people, like little non and so like to have them have conversations from the youth
quote. The younger generations perspective also would have been very valuable from that aspect too. And I feel like we had the characters, we had the time. I feel like that would have just been a interesting to incorporate in this story. Flesh it out a little bit more. Yeah, cuz like with big and Little long, they're kind of like bridging a generational gap because they're in different generations.
So like just to have the people around them have the conversation to get a different perspective would have been nice. My my last critique as Caitlin might already know where this is headed. I wanted Jim from Gap the series. To be. To be at gallery opening because Sam was like, hey gong, I'll bring my influencer friends. And then Sam never brought her influencer friends. So it would have included Jim T and Cade from Gap. Where were they? I wanted them to be there.
OK, so Natasha Fiora is a huge gym lover. I mean, I love Jim too, but like, we put Jim in every single series. Like we just start writing grand fiction. Yeah, we're we want. Have you ever seen sex lives of college girls? Just snippets? No, but I haven't seen the whole. OK, well I recommend that show in general, but we want the sex lives of college Gym. We're just gym like queerness and it'd be great.
I love it. Anyway, but Sam said the line and the no friends showed up, so I would have liked Sam's friends to show up because in the book Sam's friends show up so, like, they weren't in the show. So that's all. All right. OK. I think we should go here, Caitlyn. Yeah. All right, so Speaking of fan fiction time, so all right, one of our lovely super supporters, Regina. Hello, Regina. Asking a few questions that we are going to address today. OK, so this is what happens after questions.
So what happened with Big Nung and Little Nung after like the series ended? Specifically, there's a question about what was Little Nung's career, and we have some insight into that actually. Yeah, by news, I don't know, like I've not like read the books or anything, so I don't know if it goes into that, but. No it doesn't at all. The show more than the books did.
Oh OK, this is free. I know she had her like podcast situation and she's a big personality, so I definitely could see her just continuing, even if it wasn't like podcast, like just being some type of like entered into in the entertainment industry. But she also seems a little like shy to like not want her name, like like she wanted to be, you know, anonymous. So some part of me feels like maybe she did something like behind the scenes.
Like, I think about Gap where, you know, she was like, like when Mon was more of like the social media manager person. So it puts me in the mindset of like that to some degree. Like maybe she did more things like that behind the scenes. Like that's what I could see her doing, but. I kind of feel like she didn't want to be her name out there because she was always trying to hide with the pressure and
stress from the grandmother. So I'm wondering if maybe Big Numb helps her become more confident in that and the fact that and maybe she does become more public and then it's just like this huge person taking over the Internet. I mean, that's not that. I wonder if she's like a ghost writer, you know what I mean? Cuz that's like, yeah, she's really smart. She's very creative, but she's like I, I feel like, OK, I feel like her big Nog is a recluse
though, let's be real. And like even with little Nog, she's still going to be a recluse. So I don't think that her wife being a huge fellow figures going to go super well. So I feel like they would both like be powerful in the background type of figures like you were saying Natasha. So like I would have played ghost writing novels would be something that like little Nog would do, you know what I mean? She's smart. I can see her doing something like that.
Yeah, as they live in novels on the island of Lesbos. Yeah, right. Yeah, They could live in their beach house and she's just ghost writing and like they're just together recloosen it up. Like I can see them doing that or. Writing like a whole book series, romance series of like basically her life. No, she writes. Blank the series. You're blank the novel. She writes, She writes Blank the series, Yeah. And then time travels and puts Blank the series in her hands. Yes.
Oh. My God that was so funny. Favorite product placement? They had the novel. Yes, they love their product placement though. And then also like you, you cannot forget the name of the show that you're watching. It'll always be in the background. I love that, yes. I love that. OK but wait, didn't didn't the screenplay writer actually comment on this when they were like live tweeting? I think they did. Here, why don't you keep talking and I'm going to look at it.
I think she said that Little Long ends up as a DJ on the. Yeah, I think so on that. I mean, that makes sense because like she's very focused on what she wants. Like she gets it. Obviously she got big numb. Yeah, no. Do you think she was going to give up on her dream? Please no. She had a She had a thought and she was very hyper focused. Like a instant hyper focused. The amount of brain power that that takes is actually kind of amazing to be like, yeah, mine forever. Right.
Exactly what she said mine. She definitely said mine forever and I don't. She was like you're going to have to get with it or get with it. Basically I. Don't know, you're just going to have to accept this. Like who are you? Yeah, she was like, you can have your little moments where you might be feeling some type of way and I'll give you a, a second, but there's there's no, there's no, there's no not being together. Like, not at all. No, so funny. Yeah. And I yeah. I'm not sure.
That's OK, I'm pretty sure that's what that's what they said. All right so second question which I love this one. OK I saw this from multiple people. I saw a TikTok conspiracy theory about the grandmothers so little nun's grandmother and then like big Nug's grandmother secretly being sapphic which explains why they are overprotective with their granddaughters. Thoughts. Caitlin's murder board. This is my murder board that I made months ago.
If you can't tell these this, this is the grand ma'am. This is the grandmother. I had put a string here. They were together. They were together. But I want to hear what you thought first. I So what's funny is I did think the grand man is what we call it, right? OK, I did, I had some thoughts about her because I was just like, she is very intense about and I feel like sometimes when people are intense about things,
it's like projection. And so I was like, she's very much like so against it. And I also thought about, I mean, I know it's like a taijiyo and I was like, but your other granddaughter and then watching gap, I was like, huh. I was like, I don't know. Because maybe maybe you're a little upset that, you know, they are freely being able to to
do these things and you are not. So I did think that I don't know about Lil Nung's grandmother, but I also feel like she was the less severe of the two grandmothers there, but she was the less severe in regards to thoughts. Like you know how intense she was whenever it was mentioned, it wasn't as intense of like Big Young's grandmother. So I don't know if I like got the vibe from her, but I I don't
count it out. It definitely could make sense that that is maybe like an unrequited love situation between the two of them. And then look how they've kind of trickle down and their their offspring, honestly, because even Lil Nun's grandmother, her mom, you know? But yeah, which was so. Which was so. Crazy. That whole thing and that's your ripe. I'm surprised you didn't bring us up. I forgot about it. So you just said it. Oh, my God. OK. No, All right, we need it.
We can you tell you struck something We needed. We needed a scene where. Things, actually. Tells Little Ducks. I don't know. Little Duck knows that she was also in love with Big Duck. And then they bond over how hot Big Nung is, right? And things was like, I totally get it. Yeah, I needed something. I definitely wanted some more like closure for that because I feel like we just got a little snippet and she was just like, I am in love with you. And she's just like, here's some medicine.
And I was just, I was just like, I, what do we mean? Can we get a little bit more than that? And then it's just like, I actually love your daughter. And I'm just like. Yeah, it got weird real fast, but then we never like but like a lot of pigs behavior went in the present time. It like reads as the jealous X like in her brain she was big on X and is like acting that way. And it's like, can you 2 have closure about this? Because I feel like you don't have closure.
Yeah, yeah, it's also one of my trips that I actually like or one of my like sub trips, I guess that I like to read in, which is like an ex's. Well, usually for the most part, it's always an ex's dad what it is, but I don't know. I actually like those things where like the person gets with, but usually the ex is the bad person. Like usually the ex is like a not great person. And I don't know, her mom was amazing. So I actually didn't feel. I was like, I don't know, I
don't feel bad. Like snooze, you lose. I'm so sorry. Right, you didn't fight for it. Ping fun doesn't fight for things. No, she's very much like. I mean, she has her own like, I mean, she's. Traumatized. Yeah, he is traumatized. There's a lot of trauma in all of all of these shows. There's. So much. Trauma. Probably adults are messes because they're all traumatized. Yeah, they don't. Yeah, they all need therapy.
If I'm being honest. They would do well with an that is. Yes, they would do well in therapy. Caitlin, do any conspiracy theories about the grandmothers other than the vertiboard? Don't I? OK, so I'm thinking of a back story here and half of this is going to be made-up on the spot. Nice. So Nim, the grandmother and the grandma. Grandma we're best friends when they're younger and Nim was the Redman's personal servant, and it's kind of like a loyal pin situation with Prick.
You'll figure that out, Natasha. When you get to it, you'll love Prick. Prick is Jim, by the way. We're loyal pricks, yeah. It's true. We're. A loyal pricks. Yeah, look, Nim, who plays Jim, plays prick and loyal pin. It's the best. It's it's funny, it's great. Anyway, anyway. She's the psycho.
The grand ma'am and the grandmother had like a will they won't they they just gay stared at each other so much and Nim was just like staring at them being like hey, I'm here, I'm here, I'm still here and like these idiots. So Nim is aware of everything that's going on. The grandmother and the grand ma'am kind of have a affair going on like the affair the series. Oh my God, they don't. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. That's not giving anything away. No, you'll figure that out in
the first episode. It's very frustrating that they're so, yeah, they're basically just staring at each other and they like each other and they're like getting closer. But again, they have to be married off basically, because that is what we do. So they do get pulled apart and they never get to be together, even though they're always, they're longing for each other. I don't know if they had a conversation that they liked each other.
No, I feel like though based on their generation, they never talked. Unspoken. Talk about it unspoken. But Nim did see everything and that's why she's like it can never work out and that is why she doesn't want and like okay sorry real myself. And Nim saw the hurt that Gram the grand man had to go through every day not being with the person that she loves. So Nim also felt like this towards Big Nun and was like there's not a good history with this and that's why she was not
fully accepting right away. But then she's like, oh, they can be together and like that whole thing, that's how that played out. So yes, the grandma and the grandmother were never able to fully be together. It's another type thing that I'm not going to say right now because it'll ruin something for Natasha. I'll tell you later. That's fine. No, that track that tracks for like the time period and all that stuff and why they're so like they flip the fuck out
anytime. They're like queer stuff burning. Yeah. Brava. That makes sense. Though, And then also why? I mean, it's not just that big Mong has status. When she figures out who she is, that she's nicer, she's like, oh, the person I Love's granddaughter. I'm just saying. I'm just saying there is a reason that there is a line between the grandmothers and it's it's mostly because I want everyone to be gay. It's the big gay agenda, right? Right. Exactly.
I'm here for it. I'm here for the old tiny queers. I love it, right? I just everyone's queer last question we have all right. So when Fi and Yoko eventually get their next project at Night Star. Because let's all be real. What type of story would you like to see them in? And be so honest I would love if it was like a true blue like Tim
Dom sub situation. Like if it was some type of I don't even know if this is the thing that could happen in my dream of dreams, a book series that I've read is called It's Salacious Players Clubs by Sarah Kate. And it's basically just about a sex club. And there's different characters. Yeah. And I love that like aspect of like meeting in this club and like a sub coming or like coming to find their Dom or find someone or not knowing if they're a sub or what that looks like.
And then finding this older, more mature person to kind of teach them how to be a sub, what that looks like and have those bratty elements and like a brat tamer. I don't know. I just would love if that existed in my media. And they could pull it off, so there's that. Good.
They could really do a good. Job with that I just that one scene where they're laying down and like she and they're about to be intimate and she like vocalizes what she wants her to do. I was like, this could just be we could just really make this, we could really take this and go further like so that is I would, I would, I do, I would, I think I still would prefer them to keep the dynamic. I think they do that so well. I think it's very natural.
I don't know how I would feel if it was like a switch diet like I or if it was the dynamic was changed. I don't know if I would like it as much. I think at least for the next one, I would love to to have that dynamic and then even maybe take it further to like push it a little bit more even. Right. I think a lot of people will agree with you. Yes, very happy with your answer. I break the Internet. Yes, I think I know TR is, but I
want you to go next. I listen, I'm here for the Thai girl love shows that are coming out now. A lot of them are very romance based, which I'm here for that. But I want it. I want to expand the genre, like let's get into some other types of stories. I really want them to do some kind of enemies to lovers thing because I think they can pull it off really well. Yeah, What I really want, I want them to do whatever the Thai version of Killing Eve is because they have the acting
skills to do all that stuff. I don't know who I want playing what because like, I think either of them could do either character. Like Yoko would really fun as a villanelle because she's just she's got the rage to act all of that and be like kind of a bratty asshole, but also like be like portrayed as confident. But then the other one makes her like submissive, like you're saying.
And then like Phi being a mess like Eve, like I think it would be so fun and they're both funny and like I want that show. I want they could pull. I don't say that about actors. They could pull that off. The enemies you had to get enemies to lovers and almost like a a hate to love and enemies hate like I want. I would want the attention to be so intense like they would. Have to be. So like the killing? I like that one I think.
They can do OK they buy stairs at people like they can do the they can do it like give us that. That would be incredible and like you got your romance element. The danger, the will they won't they stuff like the acting, I they can do it. Let them do it. Let them do it. I appreciate that a lot, yes. Yes. Basically, they can do anything. They kind of can, yes, but I want that one. What would I want? I want something similar to again, not the the outcome.
All right, so when I say that this show title do not get triggered something similar to the 100 or the Wilds like I want an apocalyptic stranded on an island something type thing. I would love to see that in the Thai girl love universe in general, but I also just want Phi in like a Lara Croft type. Outfit, Yes. Yeah, girl, I, we all want that. Yeah, I think that would be great.
I just. Yeah. Yeah, I love shows like that. So like I just want, I want to see what they would do with it. I think she could also honestly, she could honestly, they both could do any like I think they're just really wide and vast. I am excited to see their future work. Like I'm just, I'm excited to have like found them. I'm like, oh, and they found the whole like Thai GL like drama community because now I'm like, I have another hyper fixation
and I don't need anymore. But here we are, and I'm going to sit in it now. There is so much coming out and so much that is just like different storylines now as well. It's so cool. I really hope the last case gets made. Oh my God. Go watch that trailer because it is amazing. Yeah, it's Grey's Anatomy, CSI printed all liars and Law and Order all in one. It's great. And I got that all from like a minute and a. Oh, wow, yeah, I can't wait. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm just excited to be here at
this point. We'll. We'll give you like a whole list of things. And like the order, you should watch them in after. Please, I'm sure you have lists. Like, yes, so I even told I was like, I need to create a spreadsheet and I I do plan on like working on I would. I just need something so I can like check off what I've seen and I like to like make a spreadsheet just to like, Oh yes, I like this. This is what I like to do about it and put notes just for my
knowledge. So yeah, I've got to yeah, that that is a goal. I'm really excited though. Yeah, well, we're happy to be here. We're happy we all found each other. We're happy you guys are all here with us too. As this I girl love stuff just keeps going and going like it's what a what a time to be alive and be watching this stuff. It's so great. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Well, any final words before we sign off today or Caitlin, do you have something
to say? I. I have something, but we'll let Natasha say any final things about Blank first. Honestly, I just want to say thank you for having me. And like everyone else has mentioned, Blank is just has been very validating and been amazing for me just to have another genre to kind of like see myself in as a late bloomer, late blooming queer came out at
34, you know, four years ago. So it's just like, I don't know, it's just so great to again have, I love seeing representation in my media, my books. I see it more as a BIPOC individual and now I get to see it, you know, as a part of the LGBTQ plus IA. You know I love it. Awesome. I, I love, I love media. Can you tell just a little bit? Yeah. All right, before we sign off, we do have to thank our wonderful Patreon supporters at our super supporter level and above.
This is something we're going to start. So shout out to our big gay super supporters, Jay, Natalia, Miranda, Ian, Ian, Regina, thank you for your questions as well. And Monet. And then we also have a big gay family member, Dana. So thank you all. We really appreciate your support. We have many dedicated supporters as well. And we just appreciate your comments and your interaction and all your love. We love our Chaos crew that are that's what our Patreon members are called.
Yes, and so thank you all for that. Thank you for coming on this very long journey of Blank the series. This has been incredible, one of my favorite shows ever as of now and probably forever. So for now, we will say goodbye to Blank the series, but we will be back to discuss whatever Faye and Yoko's next project is because let's be real, it's going to be insane and amazing when that inevitably comes to fruition. So we will be taking just a quick announcement.
We will be taking a tiny break from discussing girl love series. We're going to be talking about heart stopper and then sex lives of college girls like Caitlin mentioned. And then as of right now, looks like our Patreon members really want us to talk about affair of the series, but we'll see. We're not. We don't have a schedule. There's so. Much. Also, we have to put out another poll because there's so much coming out in the meantime.
As well, I know there's so many things that we've spent months covering Blake. So like, what do you want us to talk about next? Leave it in the comments, we will try to kind of cover everything somehow. Before we end, Natasha, where can people find you? Yes. You can find me on TikTok and Instagram at, Natasha Reads in Rambles. So check out Natasha's content and go make more friends. Everyone. Let's do it. All right, Natasha, thank you again.
This has been great. Hopefully next time Bioko does something we can gay scream about it please. Yes, or if there's another show you're obsessed with too, just feel free to let us know and let let us. Know after you've seen an affair, yeah. I will. I definitely see an affair. You know what? I will. I feel like I'll, I feel. Like I have things to say. I'll let you know. Yes. Please do, please do. All right everyone. So you have that to look forward to also.
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