Warrior Nun S2E3: Be Gay Do Museum Heist

Hello and welcome to Big Gay energy. I'm Bree. I'm Fiora and I'm Caitlin come along with us while we dive into the fun and nuances of queer media representation matters. And we're here to talk about it. We're back for a warrior. None fun with episode 3. Luke 817. Are you guys ready for this? No been ready for three weeks. Lucky number three. Alright, let's get into it. Who wants to start? It doesn't matter. Ava loves travel and new cities.

Apparently, his Ava's never been anywhere, because Ava was stuck in an orphanage with no without the ability to move anything. But like, one finger and her head for entirely. And she had to tell us this in her favorite form of narration, which is a voiceover. I actually have number one Ava voiceover. Oh yeah, 33 is not a Kidnap her apparently. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait,

what's your first scene? I always said this opening scene is so cute, even just wants to experience normal things because this kind of the crosswind cursing. But where's the voiceover? It's all the cute stuff is basically said. Well, it's prepared to her and Beatrice talking. She's like, oh, I love the feel of it new city and like, especially exploring it with a friend. She did that's a void that was all, avoid over. Okay, so Ava Beatrice on their way, to the flower shop. Okay.

So yeah, the voiceover we covered. I need to cover Beatrice's. Damn it to Hell while she crosses herself because it was the cutest thing that's ever happened. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I love that. She does the sign of the cross when cursing like, I love her so much Beatriz. Okay. The can we point out the amazing golden retriever black cat energy. That's yes, please.

And this scene because Ava is just like a puppy and she's like I want to go play in like the garden and the castles and all the stuff and be interested just like bitch we got a mission like not now I get it not now cause like focus, focus, focus. I think there's a reason why Ava's my favorite and Beatrice is your guys family. There. Totally is. Beautiful fish.

He's a puppy. But like we said it's you know, she spent the vast majority of it not her whole life's at eight years old and up like a 11 bed seven. Sorry. So yeah, her fun to watch a. Yeah exactly. So she's she wants to go see all the things and that totally makes sense but like bitch we got to make them but I mean yeah it's bad timing pulley that's good guys. Yeah timeline has been very short so she has not been able to walk or do anything and all

the whole time. She's been fighting and running and not living life at all. And so like she has this one little moment while Beatrice is trying to figure something out in this shit like, well, we got nothing else. You right now. And I think he kind of knows that she knows what Beatrice is going to say, but she wants to, she just wants to throw it out there. Anyway, she's like, oh, I was just kidding. But do you want to? Well, that's the other thing Ava's. Like, let's go on a date.

That's really what this is to. She's like, have you ever like they're not going anywhere? They're in the Crypt or whatever? Like we can we show Museum Beatrice Museum, show me. Tell me all that private school stuff that? Yeah, yeah. Because you, when you were in private school, like, what was that? Anyway, that's totally relevant to Renaissance art Beatrice. Last point, I want to make about this opening scene is outfit appreciation time.

So shots for by Jesus for Ava's whole she does look good. It's a super-gay get up. It looks really good. The haps Tina huh? Good job Christina. Yes. Great job. Christina. The Wardrobe Christina Huh. Yeah, wardrobe with Christina. With the sea. Yes, for Ava's hat, the Chuck's the overalls, the sleeveless hoodie jacket, crop top thing, she's got going, most bisexual outfit award and fear. Seriously for this outfit, like holy, hell Chef's, kissed that? And then also, I have to point

out Beatrice's outfit. It's like Wild by, like Victorian standards because ankles are showing Exactly. So that's Beatrice opening up wild so wild so wild. Okay. So after they have this cute scene together they shoot on over to the flower shop which is where The OCS is leading them or the little the opposite which

texting been texting texting. The whole time Beatrice is trying to figure out the nun texting because she's like, listen, I know Mother Superior and taught me those at one point but like I haven't text anybody a long time. So I remember what this all means. So, she eventually figures it out and they can land at this flower shop. That's where the herbicide happened. We know what killed the plants.

That's an amazing question. I assume a fight broke out but and killed the original OCS members that were hiding here. But now, you know, the same thing that killed all of the people. Same thing that killed all of them on brain okis. But what is but what is her name? Her Harem. Oh, Camilla's harem. Thank you. Yeah, the same thing that killed Camila's Harem also killed the plants. A moment of silence for the Fallen. Okay idea to play Taps.

Americans really applies here, I'm sorry played so much on this podcast military. It's a military funeral thing so we were taught cover your show with military Americans. Okay, I got it. I got it, I got it anyway. So question about Beatrice. Oh Beatrice waltzes into this place. And after 3 seconds is like well obviously but the dust layers Ava it's been three days we're in Earth did Beatrice, learn how to calculate time based off of dust. Was this an OCS skill?

Or is it something you learn in boarding school? I don't actually know the answer. This question, it's a special project. She learned it as a special project out of pure interest. Eighty HD. No, she does not know. She definitely doesn't have any hobbies but she is the type of person who's like, this could be useful. One day. Who else would have this? Exactly. It have the skill. Also, I can't make out with girls might as well learn how to

calculate to my gosh. Seriously, that is boarding school Beatrice like to distract herself for wanting to make out with her roommate. She's like, I'm just going to be in the library and learn everything. So she's like onto the most random books. Just like dust timetables I guess like anyway and then she must be in this moment like I knew that come in handy one day like I just want to go on a date with you not because of any of this like you're pretty and you hit things pretty and also you

see your ankles. She's like look at my crop top thing. Yeah. Yeah, I wear this hat for you, take me to museum, take me to the movies because I found these movies. Yeah, exactly. Because there's a convenient arrow in the soil. That's on the floor. That's not obvious at all. Not obvious at all clearly. Clearly. No one would know to look there. Yeah. Beatrice and the O's. Even the OCS is like, can you guys just go on a fucking date

already here somewhere? So yeah, so they leave to go on the date and they end up in the street. And what happens in the street free? Listen, when we go back, we go back for a second. All right, let's back. Pedal back to the duster beside ya. I haven't, I have a bone, I have a bone going to pick it. You have a lot of Bones. Yeah, I have to see a lot of tomatoes bones and I see I saw one yesterday. Oh, dear anyway. Anyway, This is my nitpick wouldn't be at your say we're

going to the cinema. Oh yes, you're right. That British slang. You're right British, she would say that and it's not even like Ava is Ava's been in Europe since she was 7, she wouldn't say it either. She watched a lot of American TV, that's what I was thinking. Maybe Ava picked it up from television because like the nun that was trying to murder, her wasn't talking about going to the movies or the cinema, so maybe. Yeah. She got it Beatrice. It doesn't make sense. You're right?

And then later on who says Cinema Ava meal. Yeah Milla so Cinema Harem girl. Just as to submit pick, that's all okay. Because Beatrice's have has a lot of British isms. So that is weird Mavis writing like that was like Ava's one thing that she wanted to change about Beatrice. She's like, all right, you know what I'm gonna do. Movies. Yeah, for a while, and the two months, they've been together. And she's like, let's watch a movie. Let's watch a movie. Let's go to the movies.

Let's go to the movies. Maybe just Beatrice is brain now. She's like movies. Damn it. Damn it. She's my God, she's doing this consciously correcting herself. Yeah. That's Ava's intact. Maybe. All right, fine. So they're Side. Now, let's go outside their date. Yes? What. They're trying to go to their date, but there are some dudes following them and guess what? Beatrice knows where they all are and super spy. Her supraspinous is coming out again.

I only can she read us, you can read her environment because that's a very OCS, kind of thing to do, so it's very hot to yes. Yes, yes, because it's just that's Literally in my notes because it's hot. So they have she points it out. Sort of in, in the way and then Ava's like, oh yes, this guy's looking in like, you don't window shop at an accountant's office kind of thing, like they're making mistakes that are obvious, you wouldn't look that way because the bus is coming

from this direction. So yes, these people are following them in there doing a bad job of it. And I'm trying to well no they're not and they're worse than this free. Absolutely. Where's the squirrel? Urge whatever. So we get into the differences between Ava and Beatrice because Ava's like all right we're going to lure him into the alley and beat the shit out of them. Kind of thing and Beatrice is like Never spark a conflict until you have complete

understanding of your odds. Also hot bees Technical Training is kind of lost on Ava, who is a punch now and ask questions later kind of person and punch again and then punch. Again, it just shows their differences but also how Beatrice is just like I know you're doing things the wrong way, but it's cute. Yeah, I'm still into you or whatever. Let's go down this alley. Yeah. She's like begrudgingly like That's features is word in season two is fine. Everything's fine. So and fine.

Then they get in the alleyway. Yes, he did. I have a note. Oh, what is your note? Oh no, for the alleyway. Okay. Should I describe what happens in the alleyway real quick? Before we do the notes? Okay. Okay, real quick. So they go down the alleyway, ditch the dudes, and the name is like, cool. We're in the clear and Beatrice is like, yeah. There's somebody else, I kind of hear them or whatever. And then she gets shot by a dart, and who the fuck is in the alley? Then I had priest.

Yeah, I had a different name for him, which is asshole douchebag also. That's his middle name, not he can recessional douchebag that bitch is back. And then I have to get, you have to Crunch Ava, though. Because V it just gets hit by the dart, but it was like, I'm not going to let you fall Bay and then click catches her so that she doesn't like get a kick like a TV.

I like at the wall and she loves her to the ground and then has exchanges some words with the not hot grease, which I kind of love where she puts it together, like all his bullshit behavior and she's like, I can't believe you did all this and betrayed all these women who trusted you just for power.

So I love that like Ava notes that and pick A part as his motivation, like he's spending all these lies and he's like, oh no. It's because I found the truth, I found the truth but really know he's kind of after Powell. She's kind of, right? And she's using all the women at his expense, which is kind of like what's been happening with the warrior none since they've been conceptualized the whole

thing. I think that's part of why she's so like suspicious of all of the stuff and she has every right right to be. So yeah, I love that. She's the one that points this out as as the word a or none to who's like the person who's like most being played by everybody for literal power, that's like a drills whole thing. So I love that she sees that as Ava Yeah well yeah they're going

to get into a fight. They do get into a fight and I was like, bitch I can face and then he punches her and he's like now with Divini and Tattoos, you can't and then and then we get to the hottest part of the episode where Ava levels up and buy energy and flips her hat to fight that bitch. So everyone in honor of Ava, one, two, three, My head is not made for halves. I do not look at it at and there right now that we're all Gars and before he's gonna is the

best. I love that she had to do that because like, she's like, yeah, no, my, why wasn't she wearing it backwards to begin with? It doesn't matter and then once she gets really gay, they start fighting. But eventually she gets the upper hand on him and like, he shoots himself when he goes to shoot her with the dart, the tranquilizer, dart, and she ends up like using the, hey, Leader asking it. Yeah, but she uses the Halo

boss. The thing that Beatrice taught her to like supersede him and like get him to shoot himself, which is great. And then she's got a dilemma right? She's got the passed out criminal that she really needs to like deal with and Beatrice. And she's like, well I can't carry both of them and then two seconds later it cuts to her carrying Beatrice. Oh, I love that. She's like, well, I guess I got to make a choice here cuts to. I'm going to choose my lady.

Mmm, she made the right choice but each is a lady every time. I mean, duh. So and then we get a tranquilized futurist groggy on drugs. Finally, finally drunk Chef. Yes, yeah. I know Beatrice drunk. Beatrice. We should have seen exiting the bar. But no, we see her on sedatives. Apparently, they stayed toolbar closing, but they only had a few shots in the beginning. And so they were sober by the end. I don't believe any of that that isn't according to such as a

director. I know, I don't I don't care. It's all of that in my head. She don't have to listen to the podcast but I don't agree with that. But you have to you have to give credit to groggy. Be addressed, right? Who needs a about a carry her? Because drugs are in her system, but the whole time, she's like no Ava go that way. Don't do that.

She's try still bossing her around even though she's like, completely out of it. So you gotta love the control freak in her is It's still there, I feel that I feel that right? No, go around the back so it's not all again and he was like, okay, sure. I trust you even though you're out of your mind on tranquilizers. Sure. Okay. And then we get to the they get to the back entrance and Ava props up your dress, and she's

like, hang on, you rest darling. Well, I figure out the fuck's going on and she tries to get in the door and it's like, God damn it. It's not working and then gets yanked Inside by Camilla. And then I have a question for what happens next, because then Beatrice ends up inside the room with with them. Does Camilla pull her or just Beatrice dive in the door after Ava. But I couldn't really tell both. Yeah, I think it's both.

Yeah, I feel like she just kind of stumbles in because like the way it's shot like it like Camilla obviously like she pulls Ava and then she moves back towards the door to go. Get Beatrice but like Beatrice is like already leaning. Like almost like she tried to like go in. After her. But like has no control over her body and they can bill was like oh good, I was coming to get you

even Beatrice are magnets right? Again it's just the protect protector in Beatrice is still there even when she's on sedatives. You know. Okay, so I love that and then we get our reunions with our ship, captain Camilla. Hey, guess what? Camilla says Cinema. She sure does. I assume she's from Europe. Like we get a bit of her back story this season, but they just say like, does she say where she was? I don't remember actually. I assume Europe. She was in a place in my head

and that's what came out. Camilla was in Cancun. No with her Harem. I didn't hear King, dude. Did you hear? I didn't hear it at all. Anyway, in this scene, Camilla is jealous with fomo over Beatrice and Ava being all hanging, all over each other and stuff and having inside jokes. Like oh she's all had too much tranquilizer, dart today and Camilla's all like that. I guess y'all to tell me that story one day.

I've just been keeping Mother Superior alive and shit, whatever you guys got to go off together for two months. Yeah, what the hell's going on here? Literally literally. So I think that's a Camilla. Like during the season feels a little bit off in like Angry.

Like she's a chip on her shoulder and I think part of it is because she feels left out from like The Sisterhood because like Ava and Beatrice got to like be off alone together and she literally was by herself with Mother Superior, and Lilith never comes to visit. So I think she feels left out especially like with the, I mean, look at the two of them, they're literally hanging all over each other. Chris has no habit on showing her ankles can?

I was like, who is this? The first of all like you guys are out here? Just like living your best lives and like, I've been in the nunnery with Mothership furion. So I think she just she feels very, very like left out. You know, I have a note about this later, but I feel like she also very resentful because they do still Treat Her. Like She's the new person? Yeah. I would totally be interesting. I don't know what we've been through. Yeah, so yeah, move along.

I'm now in charge. Yeah. You and what I say goes, and what I say is, sit your asses down. Talk about feelings. Yes, the heads specialist heads together, careful Beatrice is, you know, Beatrice is Beatrice. And this is Ava's life this season that's at stake. Take so of course she's going to be like double-checking everything being a control freak that she is. Oh yeah. But anyway, let me get them in the cinema being cute. And watching a movie that just happens to have nuns in it.

Like was this plant that seems. Okay if you're trying to hide your super-secret, none organization, I feel like you try to be like, can you please play a different film, because know, obviously the best place to hide nuns are in nuns. Yeah, because it's so obvious that it's not, I'll be right there, cosplaying obviously, obviously, and she's in her nun. Outfit in the cinema. So, like, anyway, just feel special. I mean, obviously nuns would go to a movie about nuns, obviously.

I mean, they are clearly, it's obvious, but watching nuns, having fun is not really why they're there even though we get cute shots. Lots of again Beatrice and Ava hanging all over each other. We're here to meet Yasmin and see Mother Superior and again, yes, yes, I really really love the reunions with even Mother Superior in though. Like, oh my gosh, it's like nothing has really spoken. But there's clearly like respect between them now and like, I

don't know. You can tell that they like Definitely understand each other a lot more. Now, it's just a very I like the way they're their relationship like evolved, you see my friends. If you have real acting Talent, you cannot say a word and people will know exactly what's going on. In this moment we're seeing and that's what happens here, totally. And then we have a moment where they pray for the Sith, all the And sisters and they do like a little prayer circle and like, hold hands.

And I love that Ava is still not praying, Beatrice in the scene is spraying, which I think is significant because Beatrice goes on this. Like Christ it gets like a crisis of Faith thing that's happening. There's a scene later that shows that she's in it right now. But even here like in the beginning you like what she eats? She was swearing.

She still does the sign of the cross like she still prays along with them at this point because she is a believer in No, the religious aspect of what they're doing but I love that they keep Ava as the non-believer like the skeptic at all of this. I think that that's a big Advantage for her in this whole, her whole role as the word. And I think that really helps her honestly, and I think it also plays it to her Dynamic with Beatrice because you have a Believer or non-believer.

And I think that's another way, the two of them balance each other out, and it gives them different takes on like the age real situation and you know, for Beatrice, I think faith has been this kind of grounding thing. She's always had like when her parents told her she was, you know, not normal and like all that stuff. Like I think this was something that kind of always grounded her and that's common for a lot of people. And it's been this Con like a

constant, right? When things are uncertain. And I think she can offer a bit of grounding to Ava when she spiral. Because Ava doesn't have that kind of grounding thing. Even had this horrible thing happened to her, that uprooted her whole life and So I think it's a way, they kind of like offer Ava offers A New Perspective versus like be it just can ground Ava when she needs it. So it's another fun aspect of

their Dynamics, I really enjoy. I also think it's just like, almost Habit to totally not no pun intended, Caitlin, ha ha, ha. That's from Warrior known the musical, right? By Caitlin is writing for everyone featuring. You heard it here first, folks donkey, What? Featuring Don Quixote, what? Shrek? I've never seen Shrek. Yeah. I've never seen that movie so I can't help you. It's okay. Um, so we already went past Yasmin, get out dude. We haven't got well, Yasmin is in the scene.

Next, we're going to meet Yasmin, orgasm meets Ava. I do not remember how they soon plays out and I watched it yesterday. Okay, it's okay. Now go ahead, Yasmin, meets, Ava and fangirls and it's adorable and they high-five in her divinium, necklace close. And that's how she's like you're her. I have a comment on that but go go Caitlin. I just was like, I love how either so excited to see people. Like, she's just like a new person, high five. I'm like, Yasmin is meeting like the legend.

She's heard her whole life and it's just like you're her and we have to okay. Just Then Ava's response to that. When the divinium necklace goes is Peak dumbass Ava, or she's like, it's beautiful wig and she's like, I'm not the word. I would be talking about Ava. She knows. I really like, I just but I'll speak dumbass. She's like, maybe not the warrior. Not. What are you talking about? It depends on who's asking. It's like I love it. Keep dumbass, I love it. No Ava. I love it.

But Yasin finally yasmin's like, okay. Finally I can tell you guys why I'm here and like what I have to say and it's I know how to defeat a drill and then we cut away. Yeah. Cuz we can't have the information now not yet, but it stipulating to sit that I am titillated. You don't even watch its elated by the fact that we're going to go visit Jillian and Lilith Such chips. Diluting possibilities. We are not right today, okay. The other side has healing properties also titillating.

All right. So let's get, let's get to the late and everyone. All right, basically Louis little dated to talk, exactly. What we learned in this scene? Basically, as at these 2 are teaming up, And basically, they're making a plan to like, figure out what the heck happened to Lilith. And bit my main takeaway from the scene. When they're talking is that Jillian figures out that the the other dimension must have some

kind of healing properties. It's just by being there somehow, like it can cure things like cancer and clearly like when so her hypothesis is when Lilith went through the first time these scales. And the thing she has in her body must be some consequence of, like how badly she was damaged. Because remember, in the first season Lilith ended up getting pulled in that Dimension, One, like the tarrasque demon essentially, like skewered her, and brought her back through the portal, it created.

And so, being in the dimensions, Um, how healed her. And I guess part of whatever healing process happens there, resulted in these scales, which seemed to, like, reform whenever a Lilith gets injured. So, maybe it's some kind of, like, healing organic material from that Dimension. So, that's kind of what she's saying, and I'm wondering too because, like the scales kind of look like, what the Trap like

Trask demon skin. So, I'm wondering if like, it's some form of, like divinium, that's organic because there, Bones are made of it. So what if it's like a form of divinium? That's like more fluid and can like regenerate. So maybe that's kind of what

happening and yeah. Jillian also is thinking like, well with Lilith, it doesn't seem like you were there long enough to be fully healed so like maybe that's why you're having all these glitches now, like kind of the running hypothesis of what's Happening. And so question for you guys, I guess spoiler, if you haven't seen the finale of season to

skip ahead, like 30 seconds. But so in the finale, when Ava gets badly injured in and sup, crossing the portal, is she going to get scales or like a new feature when she gets healed? What do you guys think? I think she will get a new feature. It won't be like Littlest, because little is literally going to be one of a kind. But because I think that because she has As the Halo and now Ray I think Ray is going to die directly, take an interest in Ava.

I think that she will have no real physical appearance changes. But she c'mere, go ahead stuff will be blue. She could have like a Divinity like like Michael. Like the divinium is in the parts like the part may become get shrapnel. The thinner. Yeah. Maybe that becomes healing versus like deadly on the other plane. Where it's actually an advantage versus a disadvantage. Yeah. I would say maybe it was close. Yeah. Okay. Sonny divinium doesn't harm.

The not-hot priest and Michael on this side, right that harms Ava because she has the Halo. So what is it about the Halo? Divini owns, the only thing that can weaken counteract bail. Exactly. So what is it about the? So what is it that they can exist in the same space? Really as far as Ava's body is concerned I, yeah, I think that the, the Halo can't counteract it because they're like

equivalent organic material. Perhaps, which is how Shannon that's like seems like that's how all the warrior nuns get killed. At least that's what happened to the same thing. Happen to Shannon, right? She got the divinium shrapnel in her from that bomb. And it hit major organs and they're like, well, we can't, we can't pull this the shrapnel out like it's just, it's going to kill her because the Halo can't heal, they can't counteract.

This example, real would have to get the divinium out of heard of any of us. Yeah, right, or maybe she can like magically maneuver it or something, and it becomes Part of Ava and it becomes an advantageous thing when she gets it away from the organs, like, who knows? So I think you've really glowing blue. Yeah, we don't know. Ray has powers as a God, right? But she definitely had some kind of interest in her for sure. Is it God? God is a woman, God is a woman

confirmed in the show. Okay, so the other thing I think that is kind of I just want to point out, I don't think we've pointed out before that, I think is kind of confirmed in this scene to, I think what the portal in order to cross the other plane, I think you have to have some form of organic material from the other plane in order to cross because it seems to be a common theme with everybody.

Like Adriel was able to cross because he gank the Halo from somebody, stole it, like a pirate and then it's like blue and he like passed into another into our plane and then Lewis was able to cross because the tarrasque demon had like a cloth or her body and it brought her back. So she had that material the divinium in her body when she was being drug. Because Jillian is like listen, bitch. If I can cross into that Dimension and like do all this shit myself and find my son.

I would, but I keep getting rejected and I think it's because she has nothing whereas Michael in last season was able to cross because he's covered in divinium and then Ava later is able to cross because she has the Halo. So I think that's a commonality in order to like go between the planes, you have to have the common organic material to do it and I don't think that Jillian has put that together quite yet. So he doesn't have all the information totally.

But I think that's, that seems to be a commonality based on everybody. We have seen that, it's like gone between these portals and so, like, theoretically, if there's a big war coming and they need to go to the other plane like everybody if they have like divinium armor or something, like you could send all the sister Warriors potentially and they wouldn't get harmed just throwing that out there. There we have it. There we have it. So fun stuff from that scene but

Lillian Lillian together. That's their ship name. That's the shipment. I love it. It's perfectly in. That's my grandmother's name. Alright, so yeah. It's gonna explain the crown of thorns. Yeah, Ariel imprisoned. Adriel And the secret weapon is Crown of Thorns like Jesus is Crown of Thorns. Hey, her order was made to protect it. Did we skip a scene?

Am I? Not so Breeze that combining two scenes basically like we go back to Yasmin in the gang for like a second that we go to the Vatican then we go back to Yasmin that so I don't like the Vatican. So basically the Vatican scene is just like Adrian. His followers have now invaded the church. That's the whole scene back together. I got something. Oh, what you got? What you got? That guy could have at least, pretended that he didn't know where the cross? I know, right?

Well, they're a bunch of Fools and they that again. So we're skipping them. Okay. All right. So like that, tell us about the crown of thorns. Found of thorns. It's the only thing that can imprison Adriel. Again and yaz's order was created by the warrior. None. After yella number two, that I can't remember the name of it. Me neither number two. Anyway, so to protect the crown and then they lost it and now she thinks it's a Tammy's M. So, hey guess what museum?

Heist. I have a question, okay? Because I don't know the show. Apparently. Why did we go into Aid? Riyals tomb and season one? Yeah. Oh God. Why did they go get him? They went because they thought that that was going to be they're going to get his bones and destroying the bones. Would enable them to end all of the stupid Shenanigans. However, there were tricked.

Yeah, that bitch was alive and imprisoned because he was a little bitch and they didn't know that because basically the reality got Twisted into a legend where he was this good angel that like did all this nice stuff. Of and was buried. But really that bitch was in prison because he's alive as I read it. Exactly. As my new about, this guy's a thief. So they got bamboozled. Yes, right. Okay, couple things apparently went off during the scene, but go ahead.

Like I like I have a half, a page of notes just for this one scene. Oh damn, okay. I mean, do you want to? You can go okay, a couple. I have like three bullets and then you can go off. So Crown of Thorns, it's something from the other plane, and it works by neutralizing, whatever Powers these beings have and apparently it showed up a thousand years before For Adriel because of Jesus. So, I love the implication here and what they're trying to say. Because and I love that they

don't explicitly get into this. Because that would piss off so many people because again this show is basically taking Christianity being like well, what if this was really from another plane and legends got twisted and all this stuff, so that's kind of what they're hinting at. So I love that. It was like, wait a minute, Jesus and Beatrice like don't even bother because it's like a call to the audience. I don't get pissed off or not going there. That's kind of what that was.

Don't go. He'll a huh without fourth wall, breaking. That's kind of what that was, but Age will kind of tie hands on this again later? I think in part, I think the other episode where he's talking to the pope and he basically says, hey my plane sent another ambassador to come here and make peace with you people, and you killed him so like referencing Jesus. So apparently like this is not the only time the first time that like somebody from that plane has come here.

So, like Pedro kind of explains it that like Jesus was from that realm and you guys killed him and like neutralized. So like This war whatever has been happening has kind of been bleeding into like Earth for a while. It's just it's escalating now with like him stealing the Halo and all that stuff. So I like the way they handle. All that without like explicitly spelling it out. But explicitly saying we're not going to fucking explicitly. Talk about this. Put it all together yourself,

like Avis, trying to? Yep. And also, Beatrice is already in in this position of like, no, I cannot deal with that. Now don't go there Ava. Yeah. Beatrice is already having a crisis of faith and she's like, I can't I'm trying to keep it together right now. Please, look at my ankles, the stone. I have to keep you alive. So don't just I'm losing my threads right now to reality. So I love all that. And last last piece last piece about this before, Caitlyn takes over.

I like that the reality of British colonizing assholes like as their last Act of Oppression like, rating sacred. X. That Yasmin tells like it's such a thing that happens with like colonialism and stuff. So I knew I loved that line that she has in there. Yes, I do too because we often forget how the impact of colonialism on the entire world and how much these countries should have mind in their own damn business.

Yeah. And like, what a racist but like she's like, hey, my order was like guarding this thing. And then some like asshole Invaders like stole our sacred shit like and look at a wrench that puts of everything. So I do love that line and I love it Yasmin explains, wonderful. Thank you asthma. Yeah. All right, go Caitlin Caitlin. I'm just gonna go through my commentary anyway. I have to figure out where it Oh, I have another note for the pope. Be seen.

Are the people like, like the evil laugh because of the demons that they put inside them? Or is that just them? I can't hear you, sorry. It's raining. I'm trying to like it here and I know it's loud. I don't know. Actually, that's a really good question, Caitlin. Hey, Pizza demons like haha, stupid human or these people are just assholes.

I mean, either tracks. You know, someone in the writers room was like, but if we make the crown powerful, someone is going to ask about Jesus. I don't feel like Ava would have given up so quickly about asking about Jesus. She would have tried once more to talk about it and be, would have to put her hand on her shoulder to get her to shut up. we'll say that happened off-screen and she's like yeah but she dumb dumb. I feel like she'd mentioned it

later. Yeah, I feel like in like also, I don't think she's gonna let that go either in like three years. When they're like, like, living the other churches like so about Jesus. It's been bothering me this whole time to talk about this someday when they're back on the Plaid couch. Yeah. On the Plaid couch is the flag, couch conversation. Yeah, absolutely. I didn't catch this the first. Time I what we watch this. But Mother Superior and saying Ava language for some reason,

Bob has really made me laugh. Yeah. Next commissary. I love me know. She's so good. That's amazing. Ava's way too happy because to go to this Museum, I really don't like museums Eva wants to date Beatrice, so she's excited about museums. Also a heist, I think she's excited about the heist, just two things to be excited about a heist with her. Girlfriend is a date in this world, who is going to because they're going to have down time,

they're like. Okay, we've checked things out Beatrice, tell me about art or whatever, is in this building or, you know, make out with me in the corner. Either way, the bath likeness bathrooms and museums are always great Life lessons from Bri, sorry, Library of Congress. Has the best bathroom just saying tax dollars. Not Walmart. No, no Library of Congress. Has a marble bathroom. Yeah, I'm sorry. I've never making of colonialist any who act like, I'm cultured.

Any more notes about this thinking? I don't know where the next one is for. Okay, so I'm just going to say it. All right? Camila is a vitreous Ava Church pieces, biggest fan. Yes. But Desmond is it was biggest. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Now all I can think about Yasmin. She's been wait, she's been waiting to meet the word on her whole life like it's a big. This is a big moment for her and she's very excited about it. It's very durable. Absolutely. All right, is the time for Lucio

Del Prado still there. But we're back in the habits, guys. Wait, can I tell you what my title is for this scene? Oh yes. Go for it. Nuns. Having fun at the Museum. Named after the calendar nuns, having fun, Caitlin, put up a picture of nuns having fun. The calendar they could, they could be the opening Montage. Could be that calendar. I'll send you the picture anyway, everyone's like nuns. Yeah. They're all back in the habit again and the entering montage.

Basically them like checking the layout out, security cameras, everyone's pretty serious, except Ava who literally cannot contain her Joy about this Heist. So like, she looks like this Oddball sister who's just so into brightest on Sartre. Well, everyone's like pretty serious like working. It's amazing when they're entering through the metal detector, important detail. The beads, the rosary beads do not go through the metal detector because their Tech so good job, guys.

And I like it. No. Huh. How did the thing he's get through? They put him in the, in the personal bin, where you put your wallet and stuff, they put the rosary beads in there. So it didn't go through the metal detector, but they went through it because there's usually a different metal detector thing you for the personal item. No, that's not a metal detector. That know, something where they x-ray through it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So like they don't care. Yeah.

It's not a metal detector. They're just looking through the stuff. Right. I say finger would, I mean Little Caesar rosary beads, sure. So yeah. They don't think they get away on like being holy and not being suspicious that's why they dressed like that when they went in. okay, and then the song, the song playing Something's going down by gemara. The song choice is in season 2 are excellent. I just wanted to shout out. Your interest is sunglasses. Beatrice is sunglasses, also

great. But shout out to all the songs and season 2, they really, really great. All right, inside the museum we learned an important detail that Yasmin has never seen this Crown because remember, it was stolen. So they're like listen she's like listen it's in here. I just don't know exactly what it looks like but I think it's probably this thing that's chilling on the Statue and we won't know for sure though until Ava touches it because the power is revealed when the word on touches it.

So we don't know what the crown of thorns is going to do until Ava grabs it. So that'll be fun. I like what they're trying to get into the into the museum to do the surveillance that the Earth's Beatrice can put the rosary bead bombs everywhere. The distraction is Camilla going up to the guard and being like sir, there's boys being rude by nude pictures and statues and the guards like again, with

these motherfuckers. Like like that must be stem, has happened, like, literally all the time in these museums, with all these like, dude art. But I love that that's hilarious because she's like um, I'm just an innocent man and woman, can you? Make this stop for me. And it works like a charm. It's wonderful. Absolutely. Then we get snarky Camilla

moment number two. When so their jobs are Beatrice's putting a little rosary bead Blazer disablers everywhere strategically while Camilla's job is to disable / bug, the surveillance cameras and they're kind of like Chillin by one. And we get to see some of Camilla's, really cool, super cool. None Tech where she pulls these? Like, little cross pins like hair pins out and like, Like flicks them onto the security camera, but then Beatrice is like lingering and like watching

and Kimberly gets really mad. And this is where she's like, why are you checking my work? Beatriz. I'm not a rookie anymore. Like I've graduated from bottom of the team. Like, what are you doing? Shouldn't you be focusing? I like what you're supposed to do, is it a watching me? That's when I wrote that note. Yeah. And so the Crux of this is like

from Camilla's perspective. She's again feels left out because she was the rookie and like Beatrice was looking out for her and season 1. But over the past couple of months like you know she's had to fend for herself and like, stand on her own two feet and so she perceives it that way when really, this is beaut risch showing her hand, because she's a control freak and she's worried that something's going

to go wrong when it comes. As to the mission which is Ava and Camilla kind of sees through this a little bit and she's like, you know, you can't control everything. Even he pointing to pictures of Jesus. Like he couldn't control everything. Like who the fuck are you like? And this is the glimpse of Beatrice's crisis of Faith because that when they're in front of the painting, she's delivers line of God.

Why have you forsaken me? So like she is having this crisis, a faith that's happening right now because I feel like Beatrice, you know, is a control freak because she couldn't control. Who she loves and that's been a sore spot her whole life and she has all that internalized homophobia. And so like, she's trying to overcompensate by like controlling what she can, which is like all the skills she has. And now this Mission with a drill which is really, keeping Ava alive from her perspective.

Like she feels like she's losing control and so she's trying to control every single thing that she can. And I love that it's with Camilla. Who's like going to call her out on it because I think Beatrice hasn't had somebody really call her out. About this. So yeah, I think that's what's really happening here. It's that line. The line that really says it to me. Is if we're going to be Dade, real, everything has to go

according to the plan. And that's when Camilla's like, It's just not gonna happen, nobody knows. She's like it won't though. But yeah, except that, except that things are not going to go to plan and we will move from there. Yeah, but I think that Beatrice is I think she does know that but she's coming off the knowledge of Mary's dead and that could Ava could die. And so it's again her emotions are clouding. Her judgment and Beatrice doesn't really see that yet like

she can't see it yet. She's Panicking and trying to like overcompensate by controlling everything. So that her worst fear doesn't play out. Absolutely. Yeah, so anything about that before we get back to Lillian you took the words out of my mouth. Are we going back to the lien now Lillian Lillian? All right, what you got about half of William? I just find it. Very interesting to see Gillian's Like role and relationship with everybody. Contrast from season one to

season two, huh? Because like, yeah, yeah, I think we had, we had a lot more layer Jillian and season one and seeing more of her. When she's in a position of power, rather than her feel like she's more vulnerable now to a large extent and has given up the control of her company to that asshole Christian I think the other piece of it too, why she feels different or is, right, is different.

It was also because in season one, she's framed as like, the bad guy initially because like, oh, science is a against religion. That was like, kind of how her and Christian were initially framed, and like arktech, and all that stuff. They were kind of cast in, like, dubious villain kind of roll. And now she's just like, Curious scientist is kind of like mainly what she is and season two.

So even here with with With Lilith it's like yeah, I want to get my son like that is totally still my motivation. You cannot forget that about her but she's also like I'm at the point where I'm also just like a scientist and really curious about what the heck goes on. And like, what really is this other portal? Why is this thing glitching every six hours or whatever? Like I think she's like entrenched in her scientific curiosity to.

So she's also like the retinol. She's more like a rational character then like the evil villain kind of things. So she's like, more useful. You two are like protagonists. It's I think. Yeah makes yes I like that. She's never. She never I mean she's Never tries to lie about what her motivations are what Lilith? Yeah because I mean if she was the supervillain, she would whatever or slower through the corner actually totally totally.

But like, I liked it, she's very straight up with her and she's like yeah. Like cause like at Lilith feels used to and so and Julian's like like yeah, kind of, but But, you know, I also like genuinely do want to help you. And also, I'm just scientifically curious about what the heck is going on. So she has a mole so many motivations exactly. She has multiple motivations. Yeah, I cheat and she doesn't lie about them.

She's like, no, like, you're right, like I'm not selfless here, like I have another motivation but like, one of my motivation is I do want to help you like, you know. So anyway, this scene, the Crux of the scene is basically like they're going to partner up and Lilith now has her Like supercomputer suit that will let Jillian monitor what happens when she goes into the other when she crosses the plane.

So she can kind of figure out what the heck is going on and it will record the journey which is important and then so Louis is like all right and she essentially goes through the portal Gillian goes to her supercomputer and is like, what is going on and then three seconds later like Lilith like it's ejected and she's like smoking. And passes out. And that's basically the whole scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Then we go back to the Vatican. Where I have immense attention issues when poopy dude is on the screen. Here's my comment here, the pope is a mob boss. Yeah, and he's taking them to the torture chamber. He's in the his chole City. Yes. The pope is a mob boss who's taking the person. He wants information from down into the holy torture chamber. The holy torture chamber because everybody's like what are your the you're the pope. You're not going to torture.

Or anybody in the Vatican? Nothing. Are you kidding my wine? This place has seen more torture than you have ever imagined. Yeah, let's go do some more, so that's basically that scene and then my backup iced. Oh I think, I think I do. Sorry guys, I said that, I have attention issues and then I actually paid attention to that scene. But this is more about religion,

in general. Like I understand that Adriel is basically evil, but everyone has different beliefs and it's kind of like, they only want people to believe in their God. We're like other people are trying to believe in atrial. So my biggest issue with religion is that they don't acknowledge other religions, Christianity. Really? Why should I believe in this God and these stories when there are other religions, Ins as well. In a sense it's like we are trying to spread Christianity

and Wipeout other religions. That's the idea this like non-lethal genocide for a lack of better term. Yeah. You're right. And and the part of like what's going on with the Pope to and they touch it, it more in the last two episodes is that he keeps saying part of the reason why he won't acknowledge Him is, if I acknowledge age real, it makes him legitimate. And then now his religion. In is competent, officially competition. Like you said, Caitlyn for

exactly what you just said. So that is being depicted here. You're absolutely correct. Cuz, you know, he, you know, his sect of followers threatens. My power is definitely part of it. For sure.

So my boss is angry. So back at the heist, finally, we get to the statue that Yasmin thinks is the winner and she's like if I can't wait for you to grab this thing so I can know what the heck happens because I'm just curious about all this and it was like we're gonna do this shit and then we go back to the lab that's basically that scene. Um, I said the effort Dismiss that Mother Superior and beat that dude. Oh, we're not there yet. Oh shit. Really? Yeah, okay. Well I skip the same.

Hey, hi. Stuck in his later. You skip like a couple of resilience. Yeah, it's like set for all. Caitlin was like Heist. Yeah. Well, Ian, you scared again. So there's a reason. So back at the lab is good enough. Lilith is like I'm I'm smoking like I'm in pain. What the fuck and Jillian is like um, what just happened and look, I this dialogue is really interesting. Well this bit like I was under a scorching Sun for hours. Like how do you think I'm doing

and Jillian's? Like I just saw you walk in there and then come back bike seconds later like that's impossible and then we get math that hurts your brain, okay? Before we get to the math, Lewis also says, I don't know what happened but I get the. I know the one thing I do know about being on the other plane is that, I was not welcome

there. So that's a big thing that's never fully explained but I think is very important and then we get the confusing math where Julian discovers, there's a Time discrepancy between Earth, time and like other plane time. And basically what she says she clicks on like this. Screen on Lilith's like super computer suit and is like a hundred, seven minutes past while you were over there and only seven point eight seconds passed on our plane so like 87, huh? Oh seven point.

One point seven point eight seconds. Yeah, some point is what, what is what Jillian's as So meaning that like time happens fat like faster in our world and like slower on the other world. So like where as we experienced one second, it's like 13 minutes on the other plane happens. So I was curious, how long has aged rule the pirate Thief that stole the Halo been gone from this other. Because remember, they're still trying to get this fucking Halo

back. So if x elapsing differently, the people on the other plane are like really invested in getting this thing back because it's been a very long time. So they say, like a thousand, he's been here for like a thousand years but like, I wasn't really sure. So, in the comics, X, the OCS, was founded in the year. 1066, be like, after Christ. So, like I just want with that, and that's kind of went around the time he showed up, because

that's when the o.c. has formed. So, rough estimate of this math, he's been locked up for like nine hundred years, right? And so he's been gone from his realm almost 12,000 years Those people are very motivated to get that fucking Halo back. If they've been looking for him for 12,000 years, like that Halo must be super aboard. It was like, my main takeaway from all this or they just are infinitely Immortal and don't

give a shit about time. But still a 12,000 years, weird, vampires writing, that is another thing. If you're a mortal they touch the sand like the new Lord of the Rings series. Like you experience time differently, definitely. But like, that's a long-ass time to be trying to get this fucking Halo. The Halo must be really important is what I'm saying is like after a while you're just like let's give up but they

don't give up on this thing. So, hmm, I think that signifies the power of how important the Halo, right? Because we don't really know what it is. It must be really fucking important. If they're still trying to get the stands absolute after twelve thousand years. So angels will last bitch. Well my math is wrong. Oops, that's a great. It's a rough estimate. Once you figure out Caitlin Caitlin did some math stew. I did two hours of math and I'm still confused. It's very hard to do.

Somehow I got that. It's eight hundred and fifteen point seven six times longer than us because I did some of .87. Okay so that's what I'm going off of no, do it. It's all about so I write that 107 minutes is equal to six thousand four hundred twenty seconds. Yeah that was like oh okay. And those equally each other one second should equal, eight hundred and fifteen point seven six seconds. Yeah, I rounded. But yeah. That's about right. So what math are you doing?

If then, I was trying to calculate how many is in a minute hour day and month and year to do all the other things and I'll tell you all the things that I got for a year. So I got four thousand, twenty two point nine, three years in one year I got called on. I did I have another page Oh, I think, I don't, I just it. I got distracted in this episode Again by the math and I got 600 8150 seven point, six years, in

a year, How did I get that? I did 60 know what the hell did I do. Okay, 815. .76 should be. Well shit. again, I got distracted, not distracted but like If I 800. Okay. So 800 And 15. Because every time everything, every time I did this, it always came out as eight hundred fifteen point seven, six seconds in a second. 815 point seven, six minutes in a minute. 815 point seven, six hours in an

hour. And I feel like I did something wrong, because but then at the same time, like, I don't know if that is, right? And but if we do that, then 815 points. Seven, six months in a month. Times 12 equals nine thousand seven hundred eighty nine point one to wait, hold on. So that's, that's months. So divide that by 12 is 815 .76. It, I can't do this. What? That? Because you multiply it by the number but then you divide it by

the number to get. So everything's just eight hundred and fifteen point seven six. So apparently 815 Six years in a year. And why the hell? I don't understand why I did a bunch of other math and got a bunch of different things. So eight hundred and fifteen point seven, six years and a year and now if it's 800 if it's eight hundred and fifteen point seven six times to wait, hold on. Yeah yeah. Yeah it's it's Aunt. This is literally, I was at Panera doing this yesterday if

it's 813 In .76. Months in a month times that by wanted a month. Yes. Because it's there once in Armonk. Yeah. When you do the you know, you have to essentially set up ratios and then convert a second to their s how many, what does one minute equal in their around? How many months in their room? Okay, I'm not done. Okay. Alrighty, so I love this. Okay, this is just I love math. I had so much fun doing Is it was it? I hate this, but I love it at the same time.

Caitlin Caitlin. Dear, what were you trying to calculate that? You're just rip your just laying down or something. To figure out their time with our time. So how many is a second minute hour? A day I wanted to figure out a baseline time. Then I was going to calculate the two months which I'm doing right now because I finally figured it out so times to divide that by 12 135 points, 96 years and two months. Okay, Okay, so How long do we

think Michael is 2019? Now. Okay. So 20 And how old was he? When he went by Bice? Not, you dogs got you. You're not going nowhere, 10:12. I don't know how to judge. Children. Ages. 0 to 10. So yeah. If if he was only gone ten years in the other Realm, Damn it. She lost the thread. She had the thread, and then she lost the thread.

I don't think he wished. I don't think he was there the whole two months, because remember, like, no, no, that's that's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to figure out how long he was. Actually, they're totally totally because he had to found when he contracted this Meredith. All right, so hold on. Oh, I got this. Okay. Never seen her this excited. I know unless the dog was involved I love dogs. Um okay so eight hundred and fifteen point seven six years in, you know, 815 so in six

weeks in a week. Okay. So eight You can keep going. I'll do this mess. I'm going to figure this out, okay. Oh, I believe you because I don't have anything for the next few scenes. That's right. All right. So while Caitlin does gay math, we will go to the holy torture chamber, how does that sound free? Hope games is the pope games. That's what I'm calling. It the pope games. Yeah. May the odds be ever in your

holy favor. You know of course we have to start this with the Pope pontificating about how the good old days, how he misses the good old days of medieval torture because of course we do. And the whole point of this is he's grilling his like, Defector about how Israel's actually making these place because he's like, listen, I understand this is bullshit, and he's probably from this other realm because like I have the OCS in my pocket.

So like truly tell me how he's actually doing this and the William the trader won't break because he's like, listen, I'm a True Believer, he's the real deal there is, he's really doing this. There is nothing. But then he starts singing. A different tune. When he gets his hand crushed by the good old medieval torture device, and when he gets shoved in the Iron Maiden and I was like, no, no, just kidding Architects, helping him.

So, which is Jillian's company. That has been hijacked by Christian because she's been lost in the sauce whole time and it's like science, not reading the fine, print and is like sure, do whatever you want, business stuff, whatever. So he's been helping Adriel manufacture plagues, because he has the power in the company right now and the Pope's, like, cool. Thanks for that and leaves and when he's in the hallway, he spots a nun.

Stupidly dressed who has one of those aged, real crosses visible on her arm because she's an amateur. But the point of it is that okay? The pope now has to be super suspicious of everybody in his inner circle because it's being infiltrated Slowly by Ariel's like nutjobs so he's like, oh shit. I'm running out of time. The walls are closing in on me, I can't trust anybody. So he's even more of a mob boss now. Okay, can we pause for a history look for a history? A journey into history.

Yes, a journey us at titillate us at Bree please with. Hey Wilt, it'll eat you with some knowledge of the Catholic church and torture do it. So The Gather courage has a storied history of using torture to make Heretics confess. And that's where that's this is the history that the pope is referring to when he's talking Thing about we used to do this

like for breakfast. So some Catholics and France had their own interpretation and Pope Gregory, didn't like that because it was seen as centralizing power away from The actual Pope so he deputized a bunch of clerics that would go from town to town seeking the confessions of Heretics and questioning them with torture. Hey guess what? That's where the Spanish Inquisition was like. Also go back to that Spanish Inquisition but I remember that.

That was a fucking rollicking time so you had that they just have so many instances of using torture to to get confessions out of people. They want confessions out of And it's all about power. So here we are continuing the Legacy, you know, because we're the good guys. Hmm. Yeah. Amazing. The atrocities you can commit when you dehumanize your enemy and think that you have morality on your side. Exactly. But I have another question what is the so every Pope gets a pope

named. What's this Pope's? Pope named we ever find out? Damn, that's a good question. I don't know that we ever really They just call them your Holiness, they don't ya. The people in his inner circle and it doesn't Mother Superior. And so call him like, get ready and shit like because they known each other forever. So yeah, I don't know. I don't think they ever say it. I want to know what his poop name is Simon. Yeah, what's the pope's name? Pop up anyway.

All right, that's all I have the Catholic Church tortured people. We're doing it again in this episode, there we are for funsies but thank you for the history lesson. Speaking of knowledge we're going to head back to the lab where Lilith is lurking at the portal. Looking hot as fuck. In her black, get up. So, shout out to wardrobe yet again. Thank you, Christina with a see. Thank you Christina with a see and she's Jillian comes in and she Ponder's out loud, like

she's in the scene. Okay, I want to talk about this in What kind of break this stuff down? Because I think psychology of Lilith is like laid out visually in the scene basically the ark kind of has this like bulletproof, I guess glass around it and Lilith is standing in front of it and there's a reflection of the arc. And she's like, kind of in the center and then little it or Julian is on the other side and they're kind of in the dark.

So it's like Illuminating her and she's standing there. And she's toying with the nun texting necklace from the OCS. And she's pointing out loud. What she's fiddling with this thing. Like why did the why did it burn me? Why did something over there? Not want me there? Like, I felt this presence that I was being hated by something over there and it's a very valid question. And I think that was happening with Lilith is a crisis of Faith to kind of like Beatrice is

happening. But hers is more like an identity crisis, a little bit too. Because at this point I don't think Louis feels like she belongs. It's anywhere. That's why she's toying with the OCS necklace because like that was her Sisterhood that was a place where she felt like she belonged to because she was on track to be the next Warrior. None, then that was taken away from her by the not-hot, priest, really, who intervened and made it Ava. And so she and she doesn't have those sisters.

Not one of them has come looking for her so like she doesn't feel super connected to them right now, then she like went and saw her family like blood relations and her mom was like you will never please me because One thing you were supposed to do is become the warrior none and you'll never have that. So, basically, your failure forever and you're not, my daughter is basically that whole conversation, she's like, I don't have a family to rely on and then I tried to go back to

this. I'm like, maybe you don't belong here. Maybe I belong over there on this other plane because like I have all these scales now and then I get there and something hates me and doesn't want me there. So she's like, where do I belong? I have no answers. And so she's like, between Realms in a way and I, like the way they're visually showing us that were, she's like divided against the arc, which is like the other portal and she's

toying with the necklace. And so I really love that visually what they're doing with full with while she's having this kind of like Crisis a bit, it's giving Okay, I have a question. Yes, when it sends I've never understood this. When it end number ends in a 5. Do you round up or round down? To the next whole, thank you. Math. Well, if you do it to the second decimal place to the first but then third to the second decimal

it had All right. Well um yes I agree with everything you just said about the visual. I'm everything in this season seemed so intentional with. I mean, everything in the season before was intentional as well, but this, this season, they did a particularly wonderful job of using the visuals to tell the story as well as the dialogue. So they were a lot of things to pick up and that made it much more Rich story. Oh totally. And in this scene to, I like that.

You mentioned the dialogue because again, they end up having a falling out here, these two and the word that ends up provoking Lilith is the when Jillian says we're Partners, that's the word that really like triggers her because she feels like she has no one. And like here's somebody who she was, she's questioning this is the scene where she's questioner and being like you have other motivations, you're not sincere. You really don't care about me and she was like, I don't know,

we're Partners in this. And that's what she's like, I don't have anybody like, no, like she gets really triggered because she feels like she has no support system in. This was all an illusion and she feels very isolated. So she's like Prime for being taken advantage of which is like what happened last season with her were like dirty took advantage of her and like played into her ambition to like manipulate her. And so I think she's afraid of

that happening again. And ironically it kind of does when she goes over to the next person for answers because she's right for being like groomed and taken advantage of but she's

accusing. Look Jillian of doing that and so ultimately, she leaves to like, go find somebody else who has answers, who is presumably isn't going to use her what she doesn't say, but I think that's part of this and like ends up getting used anyway, because she's just an isolated vulnerable person right now who has no one and its really, really sad for a little if you know she was like going to be this Golden Child and like she has like the Fall From Grace

kind of thing and is trying to like figure out how to navigate and it's just has no one to help her you know. Unfortunately, she keeps running into people who very easily spot that vulnerability and yeah, are using it for their favor. So I kind of almost see it as the leaders of two Colts have taken advantage of her. Would ya? God, the pope and then you've got Israel does it to Adrienne's going to do as well so obviously it's just so sad that that's her story. Yeah and it's really sad.

I think it's sad to it's Jillian because Jillian like is she's like I'm really not trying to use you. I think we both have interest in like the end goal here and we can work together to figure that all this out but Lilith is so She doesn't want to be used so which is understandable. It's just that clouds how she reads this.

I think it does. And I think the other really interesting thing to to point out is the similarities with Lilith and Ava, because I think they both end up on this journey because if you think about it, like Ava, got the Halo, which you never asked for it. And then Lilith gets these powers from the other realm that she never asked for like both of

them without their consent. and, The difference is they both go on these Journeys to, like, figure out how to navigate the situation, but Ava ends up with support and Lilith is robbed of support, right? Because like Ava has, she's important to the OCS, like they kind of have to be there for her, but Beatrice ends up being a person who's there for her, no matter what. So she ends up having support while she goes through of this journey versus Lilith had the

illusion of support the minute. She's not the warrior non-candidate anymore. People are like, where's Lilith? I don't know. And so she's like Left to like navigate this alone. So those characters are very similar have very similar stories but like it goes to show you like with and without support how that can kind of play out with people. Yeah, that's interesting. Yes. Yeah, cool stuff. Willis is are lonely character. Okay, she is.

Can I start can I start by telling you what my title for this scene is? Yes yes yes. Do it, do it, do it. But it's this. This is Oceans. 19, oceans. 19 flush. Mother's appear in this. There's so many. This scene is awesome. Shout out to Mother Superior and for trying to distract the guard pretending to be a feeble old woman and then taking him out with her massage Andre, I just love it. But that any was that, that

wasn't Cuoco, right? No. Because I, we have to figure out when it's Mother Superior and it's the episode where she's fighting a bunch of she's protecting the ark, and there's a bunch of people and she slams, somebody against the wall, that's it. That's later. That is he? Thank you. Let's let's follow up that fun time with Yasmin driving the van or if you can call it driving Shore it's not her fault. Okay, I love this conversation because Camilla snarky moment number three and she's like,

what the hell? I thought you said, you had these cities memorize and shit, and she's like, I do. I am remember, I'm like, the what is she, like the keeper of knowledge or whatever? She's like, I do. I memorized all these cities, but it's your fault because you assumed, I knew how to drive. Them. I just have the layouts in my brain. So poor Yasmin is like basically.

She's like my read on her and it's very evident during the whole Heist. Is that she's like been in the library her whole life and she's like, I have all this knowledge but no one taught me how to apply any of this stuff. I'm just here to give you knowledge not like act on the knowledge. So like they have to like, get her to be like, no, no, you're part of the team now. You have to like, do shit. She's like, why is no one taught

me how to do any of this stuff? And so to her credit though, Like she did drive them, did she? Not like she does do it? She's like, I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm gonna try like, she's a good team. Player is my brother alive. That's what. Man, they were screaming, but your did you put, did you die? The van still drives the van still drive? Yeah. Did you die? It's there. No, Nick's on the van that we know of right. Her got. We can't be that bad. I think that Camille was being

dramatic. I think there's that and then I also think Ava and Beatrice or still like making her jealous. Yes, she's having it like What God Caitlin, I'm sorry. No you're five. I feel like Camilla's Rooty Iseman because they used to focus more on her when she was new and now that someone else is coming and she is being defensive. Dang I think that's part of it for sure. That's a great observation. I would really like to see Camilla and Yasmin.

Bonnie more, I agree. I think they'd be besties once Camilla isn't a better head space for being friends. She would tell you guys something about Our former Arab, they can swap hair absorbs. Okay, wait but back to a so I think Ava Beatrice actually made Camilla and bad mood because let's be real, they had time to kill because daytime they were in the museum like scoping out the place, right? And then they come back in the middle of the night like long

after closing, right? So there's time to kill. So I imagine they went back to whatever Hotel compound that they're at to like get changed. And they're not outfits and all that stuff. Tough. And I assumed that like they got back and they're like, here's the plan, we're going to do this, okay? We have like five hours to kill and then I think, Ava and Beatrice went and because they're used to being alone went and go did their own thing, and I think Camilla just felt left

out again. She's like, I thought we were supposed to like be sisters and bond and stuff. And like, you guys are still like really tight and I have no friends, I think she was sad and then Yasmin is why like triple checking her notes to make sure they had the right stuff and like, hey she had the street layout memorized. I think come on. Just feels very isolated I think and you're right Caitlin, I think I like that. Take that she's probably jealous too.

Because like they do like Focus like Mother Superior and like takes time to talk to Yasmin and stuff. So I think she's feeling like detached from everybody a little bit. What to do? We think that Ava was in the other realm for three years. I mean, three days, because Jesus rose on the third day, That's a cool Theory. She is bisexual Jesus. So that's taking the mythology of Jesus again and not taking the fact that it was just a credit thing. Okay? Sorry I tried although she was

gone. No Simon said something about that. I'm trying to find it but I can't find it. Yeah, I bet it's in the just where I can find it later. Okay, but I need it now. I'm sorry that I'm not instant so we get inside the museum and Camilla ends up doing her Tech stuff to Loop the CCTV. Takes out the lasers at the rosary bead that Beatrice planted and we get a full debut of the new OCS, fighting outfit. So they're different and last year hot, love it.

And then we get, we all get in on the plan. So Beatrice is like, okay, Kelly, you're going to watch our backs because we trust you, not because we're trying to be alone even though that's what we're doing. But you are the one that's gonna watch our backs because we can't trust Yasmin to do this. Let's be real. So, You got this and then Beatrice and Ava, go off to go get the thing. And my money is on this was all Beatrice's plan when they were at like, sitting down at the

table to figure this out. Because she try to control everything and she's like, I don't trust anybody else to go with Ava. Like it has to be me because I can control the situation. Because again, she's afraid Something's Gonna go wrong and she's trying to like, you know,

prevent that. So they get to the statue that basically yasmin's like, hey, it's probably this one because you know it looks like the one in the drawing, they get those and Ava like phases through and picks it up and like nothing happens and then they call my disappearing. Like it's the wrong crowd. What the fuck do we do? And then we get the scene with like Yasmin and Mother Superior and and like it's like the pep talk.

And it's really cute because I love this the depiction of Yasmin here because we never get characters that are like real in these kind of situations because again yasmin's like my order was just to like deliver this information and like the OCS is supposed to do it. Like that's my that's my role. And the mother Spirits like no no you have to do we have to go in there. Now you're going to have to like, figure this shit out. We have to like do ground. Work now and yes we like work. No.

Yeah. She's like why don't you field work? She's like I don't but I'm afraid and like it's so real because like not everyone is like Ava. It was like, let's just go punch people, I don't care. Like, she's fearless. Where is like, some people are just they freeze in that scenario if they're not ready for. And they're like, I'm just, I'm scared. Like, I don't want to go do this, like, I'm not prepared for

this. So I want that Mother Superior in like, instead of, like yelling at her, like Camilla was a minute ago, like, just fucking do it. She's like okay. All right, I get it and she gives her like an OCS cross and she's like, this will protect you. Is it like being like, hey like you know, you're part of the team, you know, we're in this together like you know, yep, you got this, you can do this.

Like she bills are confident like a true teacher like leader does like it's a very cute scene. I do love it. And yeah, this is adorable. I do love her characters, all of these actors. Like you said it, realizing you said, everything that, I that I thought, because we share a brain cell so we do Anyway. Jillian. Interdental glasses. That's what I my God. Yeah, and what did she find with her glasses that count shockula is in the other realm?

Because she adjusts the footage and is like, oh shit, there's a creepy face. Yeah, so charcoal is real Julian. He's on the other. That's what I learned at the scene. That's that's what we learned in. That's what we're going to. Its Cannon. We're going to carry it on. There were going to be eaten. Count chocula for a while. I love count. Chocula, me too, we've had who chocula, I don't know. Okay, wait, sighs tangent story, that pissed me off.

So, alright, I live in a city that has like, Small Bodega style, like grocery stores and count. Chocula, if you don't know what that is, it's basically like a Halloween themed cereal. That's like Cocoa Puffs. Yeah, it's like chocolate marshmallows pops with marshmallows, right? If you've never seen it and it's seasonal, it comes out in October like for Halloween because count, chocula is a vampire or whatever. So I have an October baby, so October is my favorite and so, I

love count chocula. It's like my favorite cereal. So like yeah, okay, it's time for count chocula and like the bodega store that we go to Pat it on the shelves and I was like, great. Okay, I can I'll get it later. It was literally there one day and it was gone and never saw it again. And I was so upset and I was like, no man, I want this cereal with the hell. So for my virtually would let you get count, chocula. Well Julie, my wonderful wife like drove to another store out.

Out of the city. And God she's ours, durable stupid tour. Daga never got. It was like there for one day and then I like, yeah, that was it. I hope you guys got it. We never taught again. I was like, what the fuck with this fucking stole her? It was like, October 1st and then I never thought again. I didn't think it was possible to love. Julia is a great supporter. Yep. That's the other takeaway from the scene. Glad we can Delight you guys.

How did we get the coat rack? You look because that was that who's showed up on the screen. When she like was like oh let me adjust for the time lapse in the lab and then I'll speak about shockula to me. We're gonna leave Count Dracula and go back to the high spell, the oopsy at the Museum, the oopsie. We're all right. Some others appear in top. Yeas to go inside and basically Yaz is like, freaking out and Beatrice is not helping.

She's like we have three minutes and 47 seconds and she's like can you shut the fuck up? I need to like, figure out. The hell's going on and this is stressful. I don't know what I'm doing, and so, yes, keep stretching Beatriz every time, Beatrice projects, her Panic on to everybody because like, again, she has a one-track mind, she's like, save us Ava. And yes, it's like, just get my brain to work and then she puts it together. She's like, okay, wait, this is my, my order did this.

They must have hid it somewhere where like Colonial fuckers treasure Seekers, would not have found it. So, it can't be with the guns. It can't be with any of this stuff. We were a woman, hide it. And so, they end up in this other room. That now has a bunch of laser is because I didn't think about those when they had the rosary beads. And it's basically like a statue of a nun from, I guess, the time period in which her order was founded. And it has a great great, great grandmother's habit.

Put a pin in that and as it's like, they're, it's got to be there because my order did this, that's my direct lineage. Like it has to be this. So question if Yasmin is descended from an order of nuns. How on Earth is her great-great-grandmother? How did you how did Yaz get here? If she is descended from all these nuns and then breeding program, how did this happen? Artificial, insemination it like the one-year PC?

Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, no, because not all religions are Catholics though in Catholic nuns, don't Procreate. It makes my brain hurt. no, I know that but I'm like even if they were going to Math. Okay we're just gonna, I got it one. Should we sign stuff? This, like the Jesus talk, let's do that. Okay, so I don't know either. I don't have an answer. No idea. Like do we use the term none Loosely, even back, then that seems unlikely but like, did

they? They're they're nuns in this order and because their own private order. So like maybe they do have their own rules, maybe they're like we need more. Or people that are we can trust angle. Yeah, maybe we go. We have this problem with Lilith to because she was like, for family. He only keeps popping out people and then devoting them to the OCS. Yeah. Like so yeah, it's I don't know. Maybe the same thing. Great Gary.

Grandmother. Yeah. I wonder too like, maybe if a warrior and a number two, Because again remember one of them was Jewish like maybe the term is used Loosely in the OCS and so therefore when that Warrior not in, created this secret sect, he was like Hey only people in your family like it's maybe she made it so private that she's like it has to be like your dog. That's what I'm saying. Maybe they only trusted the yeah. Yeah, so that is implications to. I don't even use the term

loosely is kind of a thing. But oh well, I the highest we have less than three minutes to go and it was like, whatever I can phase through these lasers. And she does for the most part until like, again, the Halo keeps getting swept up flipped off like a switch, she says, but she recovers and ends up getting the crown and what happens when she actually touches. The right thing is, like, it's basically just like a wooden band headband. And then when she touches it,

the Thorns come out. So, the Halo activates whatever power, which I don't understand this either, now that I'm thinking about it. So, if the The warrior Dai, never mind. They were worrying odds. Wait no, this actually doesn't make sense. So, hold on. Okay, if the word out is, the one that activates it, meaning the Halo, activates it then with Jesus when they were using the crown of thorns, the Halo had to be here but that was before the OCS was founded.

And before Adriel stole it, how did that work? The Halo must have been here before. Or the Halos, not the only Halo. Ooh, ooh, I like that. A Halo was here? Hmm. Hmm, that's interesting. But yeah, like if that's the thing that activates it, Yeah, interesting. All right, cool. They gave me putting that together. Yeah. Maybe the Romans had they were the evil villains all along honest and somebody from the other rooms. Like here's here's this thing that they trap the biggest stop.

Oh yeah. But yeah, cool stuff. So while this is happening, and Ava gets the crown of thorns. Camilla is in the other room being haunted by Adriel and it's like fuck, it's a trap and then calls Mother Superior on the Telecom and it's like um it's a trap it's a trap but by then it's way too late and the not high priest rolls on in their trips. The alarm which locks Beatrice. Who's hysterically screaming at this point off from Ava?

And basically he disarms because punch first Ava tries to punch him. He disarms her puts the, he puts the crown of thorns on her head, knocking her out, an immobilizing, her and abducts her out of the room. To everyone's horror and then when Beatrice screams Ava's name, it's more haunting than when Adrienne was Haunting Camilla. And it hurts it just it hurts. Whoever the people, I saw several comments about how I thought Beatrice would react more.

And I'm like, how did you not were you watching the same show? I feel like I'm not watching the same show as some people sometimes. First of all, the blood-curdling scream of the name Ava she's behind she cannot face. Remember remember only Ava can phase through Oh shit, Beatrice cannot, it's an iron gate. What is she supposed to do?

There's no way around that. And then the next episode, she's literally panicking and yelling at Camilla because of what just happened and she spends the entire episode doing nothing except tracking down Ava. So like what did you want Beatrice to do in that moment cry? Well, yeah, like like the lie she was gripping the bars and You mean, like, what was she supposed to do? She doesn't have projectile weapons.

There's nothing she can do. Like, she, this is, this is her actual worst fear, like playing out she has. No, could she cannot control? What is going on in the other room like nothing? She did everything she could do from her plan like Camilla foreshadowed. The plans not going to go as your planning and it didn't, and then she's trapped out of options in that moment and just has to watch it happen and there is nothing.

She can do this is because you're losing all control of the situation and watching it. Play out like there's nothing she can do. My last note on this machine, it is and my last note on this thing just says, Beatrice is Scream. Makes me very sad. It hurts. It Hurts, Christina. How could you we have? Yeah, Christina. Can we? I need therapy bills paid for by that one scream. That one's great.

But don't worry, the episode gets worse because then Lilith pays a visit to Adriel, and I hate it, and that's how it ends. I said, Lilith goes to the dark side. Yep. And then, then I said, Gross, we end on this. Yep, I don't know. That's all I have to say. No bad, Simon bad, Simon that All right, before we wrap this up entirely.

Let's check back in with Kaitlyn and see if you got anywhere with your math, I feel like we were just reported the news and we're going to Kaitlyn Becky down town game Ethel and I just circled my conclusion. The issue is that I found another person's calculation and Simon said it looked good to them. It's completely different. Aunt. So I redid All of my math with 7.8 instead of 7.87 so I threw out two hours of work from yesterday. And I redid it. Okay. According to me.

Seven point, eight seconds. We already know that 7.8, s 64 2064, 20 divided by seven point eight is eight hundred. Twenty three point zero. Eight seconds in one second in our world. So Every single time I do math to, like, expand that, and then break it down to like years and years. It, I always get that number Is that one year? So, like, 823 point, zero, eight years equals one year, So if you do 823 point zero eight years divided by 365 to get it two days.

It's two point two. Six years equals one day here, So assuming that Michael was 10 years old when he left and he's 20 now, that's just an assumption. I think he's older. So don't worry, I have multiple calculations. So for 10 years, 10 divided by 2 point 2 6 equals four point four two days. Fifth. If he was 25 15 divided by 2 point 2 6 is 6 point 6. 4 days. And now if we want to just give him an even week, he would be 25.82 because that one week is

fifteen point eight two years. The issue is that this? Oh my gosh, I'm going to put your name, May rename a trainee, the genie. Okay, I like that one. That's really cute. We all be agree in our math, but they calculate two months into 60 days. So, hours minutes, 2 seconds and somehow they get, the two months is 13.5 three years. So I don't understand how that works. So, their conclusion is that? Michael's gone out hard again. I guess they were trying to

answer the Michael question. No, they're saying that he was he was gone. All two months know he was, he couldn't have been good enough. Yeah but but they're saying that it's 13 .5 3 years for two months. Yeah, I don't know. So that'll break broken down. So I'm going to I will give you credit reenie the genie. I'm going to put your math next to my math and hopefully someone can explain it to me cuz all right.

I mean if I if I have time which is a very unlikely but I really would like to because I have spent so much time on this freaking bath. But I have to know. Okay? All right offline, we can do the math together. How's that sound? Okay, okay, so, but anyway, so thank you. Caitlin are BGE math, petition for doing all of that for us to see how long my goal was gone. Whoo. All right. So, did you have any more commentary that you wanted to add?

Before we go to the bisexual? Jesus, hydration scale. No, I just enter well, yeah, I interrupted enough. All right. So how many shots were bisexual Jesus? Would you give this episode? How did I forget about? You forget it. Every time I didn't last side I mean the time in the future. I think I can't. I'm not backing any more math. We're done with that. Yes. In the future. I'm math. Anyway. Shit you guys go first?

I think I think I'm going to give us something to 6 because of Ava's outfit the backwards hat thing. Yeah, I think that is then being cute at the beginning. Beatrice just being like a protective wife the whole time Oh, and Beatrice is outfits. Also, the nun fighting outfits, I'll guess I gave it a 7 for everything you just said, Nice Kaitlyn. I'm sorry they corrected their math and I was looking at it, I agree with six. All right which is ironic. Michael is a fairly good for six

days. Oh my God. We did this in the episode in the reaction as well. I believe, because we did the devil's number. Wow, yes. The curse has been lifted, everyone. So thanks for joining and hopefully all that math made sense to you and we promised not to do math in the next episode and hopefully in future episodes. So join us next time when we get to the Midway point in season 2 and continue on our fun with nuns. We're in a journey. Yay. Hi I say bye. Caitlyn Caitlyn. No.

I have confirmation. My math is, right? And David Hayter. Who I believe was the director, was he figured he spent roughly 15 years on the other side and stating that he was around back for seven weeks before finding Ava. I'm gonna see that matches my 15 years that I estimated here of six point seven three days because he would have been back a week, we've just proven that gay people can do math. So, suck on that. You heard it here first? Proof is in the math so you can

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