BIG FACTS feat. Kawan “KP” Prather

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The coaching labin, the ATL. You know what it is. It's time for big facts. What's up, Big Bank? What's up? Baby? J d J scream I'm here. We got a special guest today, KP the Great Kawan prappt whatever you want to call him. He's here. He about to chop it up on big.

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What's up? KP? You good?

Yeah? I'm great? Man?

You great? You know you know one of the things that many people do know but many people may not know, is how how how impactful you've been to help helping artists ascend from ATL coaching even beyond that. So I guess I guess the thing I want to ask you first is like, what was the first act that you are responsible for part partially responsible for bringing through the door.

Take us back to the Oh okay, so yeah, I guess that be the group I was in PA, Parental Advisory. Yeah, that was like ninety that was ninety two. Yeah, we ended up getting signed pebble We met Pebbles at TLC video shoot where it was auditioned for a video shoot, and she let us audition.

And signed us and that was the start of it.

And you were that time DJ, the DJ.

But somehow it always seemed like I was the spokesperson, like I kind of ended up being the mouthpiece a lot.

You know, somewhere are they now? Where are they now?

Well? Reese, first of all, he produced like both of those Lloyd you and get it around the world. Yeah, yeah, him and Jasser did those records, and Mellow Mellow still rights and works, you know, like Mellow. I think got a little more frustrated with the business.

Side of it. And then after parental advisory, the next app would be.

That I am responsible like for walking out because I've worked with a lot of people. Like it's weird because I don't know how it's hard to take credit for some of shit because it's like you meet people who are talented and you kind of show up and support it, like like it's the credit thing is weird. It's like when people call somebody their artists, it's like that that's a person.

A lot of people, let's say give you credit for a tip they say, man, K Peter Reeson tip got through the door, not to say he wouldn't have because he was tipped.

No, I mean what it was I was I was in the right place to recognize what he was doing when maybe people weren't paying attention or seeing it properly.

So like I just understood it.

Like I think that's really what it comes down to any of this stuff, Like especially artist trying to get signed and ship, they just want to get with somebody, like it's so important to get with somebody who sees you.

Was it hard to take in some street music to the face because we heard that tool that It was like they wasn't really trying to.

Well, yeah, I mean, but what's funny is that's how I got my label there.

That's how I got Ghetto Vision because that was there was a period where I was almost going because the group PA we were signing the dream Works out in LA and I would go go out there for meetings a lot, and they offered me a job to come do and dream Works and they and when I found out how.

Much they pay people as opposed to what I was getting paid.

At the time, you know, it was just like you know, different, and you know, it was just one of those things where it's.

Like, oh man, this much, this is the rate for what I do.

So I came back. As matter of fact, they gave me the benefits package. They gave me a whole thing before I left. So I came back to Atlanta, met with La and told him about it, like really, like sat down. It was like, look, this is what they're offering. I got a kid.

Yeah, like no, but no, more.

Like just this.

My og is still like it's still a it's a real conversation.

Yeah, it was a conversation based on like, I know, they're looking at me for what I'm doing here with us, so I'm not I'm not above and beyond that that thought.

But what but what he said was something real. He was like, well that was a different That label.

Is funded different. It was.

It was Steven Spielberg.

It was like that we see at the end of the movies too.

Yeah, they were.

They were labeled too though, so they had movie money making records. So you know, he basically explained to me, He's like, well, my deal isn't that. But you know, I understand if you do it. But what I also understood was going out there, I was gonna have to teach them what I knew, which was going to slow me down. Whereas here in Atlanta and that the face, I was working with a team with people that I could throw no look.

Passes to right, So let me ask you this. So how did I'm sorry?

And then so I'm sorry to finish it. So I don't know why I got off there, but my bad. So anyway, so when I when I had the conversation with la, he was like, look, I can't give you that kind of money, but I give this opportunity and give you a production deal so you can do the things that you want to do. Because that was a

Yeah.

Yeah, So it was like it was and at that night I came up with a name because he was like, okay, well let's do that.

What you got a name?

And I was like, well, you know, your shit is shiny and whatever, my my vision will look.

It's like a little ghetto and he was like, Okay, it's a ghetto vision.

Yeah, so that's my So that goes into my question, like how did you working at the face while simultaneously spearheading the whole entire ghetto vision movement kind of like mold you into the music mogul and cool lass nigga that you are today.

I was a cool lass nigga first, No, I mean I think I became a music mobile based on the person I was.

If that's a mogul is what you want to call it.

But it's like like I got into the into every situation I've gotten into was based on me being honest and being myself. So I mean, you know, it's like I joke about the cool last Nigga part, but I'm like, I think what it is is I'm just comfortable. So like I don't no matter who I'm around, I'm I'm good. Yeah, so I can see you for who you are and not be threatened by or you know, you know, and I don't have to be intimidating them.

Like that.

Yeah, it's said, what was your role in what?

For real? What was I am other? What was the name of it?

I am mother?

So head of music bying mother, Like I went over there when when I left Atlantic in it like twenty fourteen. Yeah, so I went over there, like I left Atlantic, and when I left, I called him leaving the office like bro, like something had happened and I was like, let me, I had to leave, and he was like, well, shit, good you come run this shit now. And it was like really like a again.

It was like me being myself with people I know and trust.

Those opportunities is kind of they've been there for me, Like I'm blessed in that way.

What do you think you do best? Like creating or executive? What like do so what do you think?

I think it depends on what the situation is.

Yeah, yeah, like like I've done enough of the job to know enough about him. It's almost like like a foreman who's like to play, like because I come from being in a group, from DJ and producing like all those things we were doing. I was making show tapes for dance groups in high school for talent shows, so I understood how to put a show together. Like so that led me into being like music director for for real in his shows and.

Just understood transitions.

Understood transitions. Yeah, and you know it's it's again. It's like all my high school shit is what is all I'm doing? Like I'm kind of living a very immature as life but with understanding.

So how does it feel like to kind of bring your whole beginning full circle? I don't want to say to your end, but to your current now from being the DJ that you are, but now you've kind of perfected your craft and you're like one of the best of the best.

I appreciate that. No, I mean I've loved it the same the whole time. So it's never not been there, never not been a part of what I was doing. So if anybody met with me when I was at Sony as EVP of Black Music, they would turntable stuff in my in my office, like I would sit in there after hours, and like the records we were making, I would play them in contact with other records I liked. So it just made it easy for me to know if I really liked this ship or if it's just like the moment.

Or you know, it's just like put it in play.

So that like the DJ part is probably the most consistent talent or the most consistent tool.

I an't used in my whole career.

Yeah, because it's taste, it's it's reading the room, it's you know, it's it.

You have to pay attention.

Being in it so long. How do how do you continue to adapt to the change of the music.

I still shop with my kids, like I still go in the world where they go. So I'm not I'm not the get off my porch old nigga. I'm not.

I'm not that. I like seeing new people, new arts. I like hearing new music.

So it's like again, it's like I really just get to check ship out all the time. And and and I'm blessed in a way that people still allowed me in.

The le.

So how did you discover yellow wool?

That's you know what?

Bear Courtney seals?

Bear hit me one day when I was one one time a guy when I worked, I was e VP of Sony Urban Man right, and and Bear called me one day. I was like, you know, hey, man, I met this.

Uh that's a pretty good impression.

I think I think you should listen to him. And so I flew down and and he performed for me, and like I want to say, it was like a rehearsal space. It might have been Marven's but I can't remember, but it was fresh off and they were having some kind of It was a conference down here at the time, so he was coming from the conference to meet me at the rehearsal space. He came in and performed. It

He was he got a lot of energy.

Yeah, but he was.

He was busting. So that night I was like, oh, and what I liked about it? He was Southern white. Yeah, so he rolled, he rolle beats different, like because the way I used to like, I'm not I don't really, I'm not a person who rides around and listens to Eminem in the car, like, you know, appreciate how dope he is, but it ain't my It's too for me.

Whereas Yellow Wolf. Yeah, it was like it's on the it's on it.

And Wolf he rapped like withdraw so it had a melody to it. So yeah, but he was doing that while performing his ass off. But I met him here in Atlanta through there.

Okay, how engaged are you in like new music, Like do you listen to a lot of new music? Do you be on play list? Do you do you keep up with the new young waves and everything.

I ain't gonna say I keep up because it's kind of it's hard to keep up like and still have like a real life, like because it's so much it's so much streaming. Like but like I hear the things that they cut through, I feel like I'm at my at my age, right, I'm not supposed to hear it first, right, like like it's weird, Like I don't think.

I don't think that's my role no more.

Mine is to recognize when somebody else has got it how I can help, so if it makes it to me, it's that kind of thing.

What's the names that stand out to you?

Standout? I mean and and and it's probably I don't know, just like regular but it's like it's it's like the road ways, it's a songwriters. It's let me think, like that's such a trick, Like obviously I said jids money bag Yo twenty one. Uh, I don't know.

You know, okay, And that's the other part, Like I know a lot of songs, but I don't know.

Who sings these songs, you know, a little buddy from Detroit, a little dude from you know, it's like, I don't know, I know the sounds one I know the people. Yeah, because I heard the word yesterday from from Shiloh Dions and I was like, it wasn't bad, but it felt like what it feels like right now, Like it's like, okay, that's.

The other dude is going crazy to uh the ball.

LaMelo Angelo. Yeah, I heard that too, like that kind of jaman.

But you know, but again, it's not a lot of artists that I can like be like I like that artists like.

A bunch of songs.

Let me ask you this, so okay, specifically talking about the Leangelo ball records, do you think that people are gonna discredit the record because they feel like he's a gifted ballplayer.

I don't know if I don't know if the world worked like that no more, I think people accept what they like from whoever gives it to him, unless somebody supplies them with it more consistently. Like I don't think I don't think you got that kind of I don't know if brand loyalty and that kind of shit, like

We support him doing something if it's good?

Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what's your.

What's your most memorable moment? Like from Atlanta.

Clubs, God memorable moment?

Okay, so this is a this is like pre pre money in the air, okay, meeting young bloods, meeting young Bloods and Chili Pepper and seeing them in the club throwing the football across the balcony over a dance floor, but like having real fun like.

Animal house style, like wow.

Yeah.

And I was like I was that, like that's yeah yeah yeah.

But it was it was like that that memory is stuck because it's like that feels like Atlanta to me. It's like it's people partying, it's bottles over here, it's it's football players over here, it's you know what I'm saying, some baseball, some.

Dope boys over here.

It's out of town, and it's these two niggas throwing footballs across the across the balcony.

It's like it's just it's like and nobody tripping facts.

You know one thing you mastered as long as you've been in the game. Oh no, one knows like personal stuff about you, like.

Man, don't start this ship.

No no, no, no no, We're not trying to bad personal stuff.

I guess I'm just saying.

That ain't the person. I don't do it in the.

Positive personal thing.

I get the studio, studio home.

Yeah, scratched that.

No, basically saying like how you avoid all the weird ship in his name?

Yeah, I go home like like legit, I go home.

And two like you ain't never seeing me out at the at the at the after just because I'm I hear about it like I a matter of fact, I've done enough free camera phone.

To know what it's what it's like.

Cool. But another part of it is the statement that I tell people that they say, in order to make it in this industry, you have to rock a certain way. You can be yourself and make it in this industry.

But it's where you want to make it too, Like I know where I'm trying to go.

I know I'm not trying to go as well, though, so I just don't ever I don't like I know myself so and it's not a judgment, it's it's just okay, this some sh it ain't for me right, Like I like my kids. I'd rather kick it with my kids if I got the time. You know what I'm saying.

If I'm not working to support them, I'd rather kick it with them.

See what they have to.

Say.

Anything else when.

You haven't regrets like not signing M absolutely not, because I don't think anything works if you force it past that. Like everything I like, I'm cool with everything I got, every artist I'm associated with, every contribution like that was where I was supposed to be. Did you miss I didn't miss it, miss, but you had an opportunity of a part of absolutely. But I was at a place that I didn't feel like he could get off what he was doing. I was at Sony. Sony is super corporate.

Jam Like like I'm I'm really because they get it.

You got shake shake over there and with like shake is over there, moving l a like there's somebody who is listening, but there's also somebody who understands, Like I understand it. But if I understand that, the person I got to talk to to move things out the way. If they're not, if they're gonna question it, if they want to understand it too much, it's gonna.

Explaining or take too much time to break it in.

Yeah, that should be over.

Yeah the wave is gonna be gone.

Yeah no, you missed that, bitch breakpoint you you're done?

What role you played in that? Kendrick got right, y'all got to grab it for that, right, What role you play?

I contributed, like, you know, yeah, I feel like that's one of the ones I contributed.

I had I heard something I said to the Farrell. He was like, yeah, fuck it and kept it and.

He did it for another artist that the artists didn't like it or they didn't feel it the same way. It's sat for a year or two. Kendrick heard the hook that you know, the me and Fill had done before and wrote everything else and yeah, ship.

My role was ship.

I rolled.

I rolled the bitch out. I rolled, you know, like I contributed and appreciated that whole month up getting in these games trophies, I mean like, oh, like a Grammy.

I got a Grammy, but.

That actually that was the first award I've ever got actually, like other than like you'll get a forty under forty or uh, you know, you'll have a hot year like at a label and you'll get some ship, but like a real like peer group, music industry wide, the Grammy.

Facts mm hmm. What do you think street music or street street music and the culture of it started in Atlanta? Like who was the first artist or one of the first artists the hard boys, the hard boys. Yeah, so that's that's like get me out of that ship and where did it go from there? It was a little bit a little bit of the journey. Where where did it go from? Then?

It was a little bit of saying street because it's like okay, keyloaded me and street music based.

On who was who was paying for you can't leave get on either.

See what happened for sure?

You know the man shout out to everybody who made a record that inspired everybody who made another record.

Yes, I guess I'm saying because they just look they just looked at us at one point because it was kind of just that it was just booty shape some of the street.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm saying the street music because who was making it.

Who was putting the street niggas were making the booty shake music?

Yeah yeah, street niggas. Hammer was a street nigga.

Yes, I don't know what.

Is it just someone who hustled? Is it just someone who literally.

Like we won't go there? Like trap music? Street music, that feel of getting your car at that time. I guess you and your Caprice Classic whatever it is, you got your speakers and you not get It's a different vibe than.

Like okay, okay, I'll say okay, I say this, I know what.

I know we're trying to. I know we're getting that. Yes to me. Tips started the pride of trap music by actually just saying that's what it was, right, But it was there were people who were doing music about selling, there were people that were drug dealers, talking about dancing. There was everybody doing everything, but Tip put a stamp on it, right. So like I'm gonna say, yeah, I feel like we ushered in a pride to you know, kind of like elevated or evolved hustlers. Like it's like

Lot of people.

And because that's hiss experience, he can.

He can he can express it like a couple of people can in a way that gives you detail and like where you feel like, oh that's.

What that's what it's smelled like in there, like very vividly.

Yeah. So it's like, you know, to me again, I say, it's like elevated street music's street music, but it's it's still art.

But I feel like, going back to what we were just talking about about, how like it was the street niggas making the booty shake music. It's all about like.

Well, it was like there was street people paying for them niggas to make like.

Not like like okay, let me let me, let me give you an example, like just for instance, like the sixty nine with the fucking TITSI roll, these niggas were selling dope with gold teeth in Florida.

Yeah, but they were.

It wasn't nothing funny, switchy, witchy about them or nothing.

But they were.

That's you know what I'm saying, That's what was like, you know, that's what was going on at the time. But it was just like, like I said, it was in blocks of time because like even at the Atlanta Street niggas, dope niggas that were making booty Shake music and they had all the money and whatever and that were like rapping to the holes about whatever they were doing. They were doing it because that's what was going on

I think fun changes depending on the era, Like yeah, yeah, like fun now. I mean for me, I don't that's.

The other part. I don't go out a lot because it ain't fun. It's like it's just not fun.

I don't.

I don't like watching them. I'm so I don't like watching people just suck on hook all night.

We had fun to put it on.

We had fun, man, listen, But that's what I'm saying. But it's like, it wasn't that the amazing shit is as much as it's called put thish it on.

Wasn't nobody putting on. Everybody was just being themselves in clothes and cool clothes, youth.

I know, it's a lot of losses come with this game. It didn't go as playing, Like what type of lessons you learned from your losses?

Keep going bro Like the lesson is sh is going to happen to everybody? Like it's depending on what you know. Again, it's your circumstance that dictates how bad or how good your your shit can turn out.

And and that's decision making.

You got a moment where you where you know, you put a lot of shit in and that ship just didn't go right.

You read, yeah that the originally that first Tip album, that first Tip album was it didn't go right for a bunch of Like now in hindsight, and I can see where it all went.

That shit hard though, no see.

Okay here, let me okay, so I'm gonna save my part. It would be considered a break based on how successful he is now right, But it did the groundwork to get him.

Like I make that up. It was.

It was a mixtape.

It's like it sold one hundred and seventy some thousand copies and real you know and physical. Yeah yeah, but but.

Over seventy weeks, so that meant every week.

Somebody else was like, I fuck with that, Like it was sunding like five thousand a week, but like fifty some weeks. And I was like, to me, that made sense from a from a business stand point, I'm like, okay, we need to be paying attention to hey, y'all, y'all don't. But it wasn't enough for the big company record. Huh No, through through the project to the people, you think, through the project to the neptube record.

That's what I was just about to serious. Yeah, it would have been unheard or to put dope boys in the trap out first, but that was the record. Y'all knew that was the record. As soon as we heard that out right record. The man were you talking.

About y'all talking about different records?

What's my name name? It was I saying that's what they pushed. It was a great no no, no, no.

Yea. So his thing so we did that record right and understanding that, Okay, this the lesson I learned, don't show them all the ships you got, because I knew Dope Boys in the Trap was the first single. Like we all we were like, oh my god, we're about to sit this month on fire.

And we get to it.

Got we're in Atlanta. But this is the time where this din't It wasn't a record to before. Yeah, that was on soundtrack, yeah, but but no, the when we got to matter of fact, we did that record while the Face was still in Atlanta.

To the sh sound track.

I did that on Ghetto Vision, like that soundtrack is on my label. But then La went to New York to Arista. So in between that, that's when we were about to drop Dope Boys in the Trap. He goes to New York and everybody there is the New York radio staff, we can't put this out. Nobody can play this. We can't play Dope Boys. That's that's crazy. And I was like all right.

They were like, well what about this for real?

This neptible record, because they were blowing up and I'm like, you know, that's my dude, Like we're I know that it's a dope record, but it's premature. It's like, like you're reaching.

For what I knew.

The rest of the album was like everything else about it was dope was it was telling a story almost exactly so, but in that story, that part of the story is yes, but but you don't know why these things go together. So anyway, all I did was, I was like, all right, for get, but I put Dope boys in the trap on the B side, so I'm serious, and we just worked the ship out of that so.

Hard, even before the next time the mixtape in the Street and PC ship. But he was But that's that's the other thing I said about artists, when they know where they're going, you're not gonna stop.

Yes, that's why I say I contributed, Like I'm I'm never goinna take credit for nobody work like in your talent, Like it's just it's.

It's basically a label can suck your whole life up.

None of the wrong decision like no different than the wrong ship, Like you know what I mean, it's the same thing. It's like you get into a relationship that's about your dreams, so ships in your head, so you gotta believe that these people you're talking to get or believe you like that they see that you can do pull off the ship you saying, you're thinking they got

It ain't it ain't it ain't. It ain't a business, It ain't a game.

It ain't nothing that you can play as a team and winning big without having the right team. Like when you play spades, when you know you're partner, y'all killing it because because you can see, you know what, you know what's about to happen, like up dropping Tip, right, they let him go, Like dropping is a is a strange word, because we asked for him to let Tip go because I was gonna take him over to Columbia with me. But then I got there and that's when Flip was there and we were about to do the

So.

So when you do it, they trying to miss that no more. After you let Tip go, he he started believing in a lot of music.

After that, well, he.

He's still you know there is he's still believing in certain people, like he believed in in Future because he believed in Rico in Rocco, like he believed because Rico Roco knew and Roco said future was it and Future was Rico's cousin. He's like, Okay, there's a chance here that I think he understands, Like the proximity part. It's like, okay, I'm gonna make sure somebody does understand. Yeah, somebody got

So it's like, yeah, everybody worked, it worked the fun out.

They say anything else, what executive a visionary inspires you the most? Namely probably from Atlanta, but it could be outside of Atlanta, like the person that you're like, man, they they beyond.

It like pebbles. Ah, she was like she when we talk about like ghetto vision, like that's like she's the one who got in the streets in Atlanta. She's the one who who found us, who found t l C. You know who who kind of helped with imaging on Tony Braxton because when you think about she's an open ship. She she's fly already like it's like it's being from it. So you go, you can go anywhere to town to

Who the goat.

Producer from the city.

Mpending on what you're talking about, my impact of seals just all around, I'm gonna stay organized, noise mm hmm, if we're gonna do all incompassing.

If anybody got something said about that, call yeah, yeah right, I've never said that.

Shout out to Rico.

Because I think people put so much on numbers.

On number birds and and to put on like I think what what organized know is in the danger. I think what we represent more than anything is real people and some of the the more some of the more put on things feel goofy and like you wouldn't do that in front of your mama, Like I still like mama, Like you know what I'm saying. It's like i'd be around my folks, I'd be around my kids, So I don't.

What artists had the biggest impact out of Atlanta?

Okas who who?

You know? With the six Future?

But how no future?

You're right? You right, in fact, totally right impact. No, that was inspiration from him. They got you got inspiration he learned he did.

When you put it that same But.

How did the streets move when Jesus and Kill Drop, I mean Jesus.

And Drop Okay sold ten million albums bro the streets everywhere, all the streets bought it, like ten.

Million Our cast, you got the streets ain't just right there.

Our cast made people who wanted to be in music kind of in Atlanta at the time. You get to think being doing music. If you told like I told my family, I'm gonna do music, I was like you what like, But after we saw our casts, like, man, maybe we can do music on this level. I guess you probably can't competit the errors.

No, no, I mean because the era of the futures in he the biggest of it. He's like, he's going to impact a bunch of people out like think about all the things posts because actually Gouci right, like it's it's a bunch of it's all bricks, like to me, just trying to compare, Yeah, you can't have So I'm I'm just saying that you right, I'm just saying the first to do it on a scale to give us pride because Jermaine was the first with hits.

Well, no, Dallas was the first one to hit. Matter of fact, Dallas produced hard boys.

So it's like that.

So it's like, so everybody, it's hard to claim. I'm just saying that.

You know. The reason I'm gonna say organize is based on at a moment where everybody was paying attention, our crew stood up and gave it pride to where you don't have to be from New York, you don't have to be from l A to be seen on a global scale.

Facts, big facts in these the great conversations I just got just had wall. John never come up in these conversations.

Just because But that goes into that what do we you know?

What what what?

What's to like the crazy Atlanta is so dope and it's so full of amazing talent, Like I'm talking about like goat level talent.

It ain't like regular he had like a little John Yeah, like there's yeah, none of that.

But but think about this.

He went from.

It's still it's still yeah, that's really to still.

Is at one extreme and at one o'clock in the morning.

Where where are you.

In your set?

John at that time?

Because he it's gonna it's gonna start. It's gonna either you're gonna go there or you're gonna go blow the whistle. Like think about all this is John DIDs records. Like to me, John is like doctor Dre level producer, like.

He is high level eating ship.

He just doesn't get the credit because you don't think about because it looks so fun, you don't think about how how talented actually goes into Yeah like that ain't that ain't by mistake. He's been doing this this whole time at this same level. Like even when we were thinking about it, he was still his shots shots shot like you're still.

Like, so it ain't it ain't. It's like that's why it's hard to say.

Who who's the go, who's the best? Like many adult niggas here, you're right, you're right.

And even though we don't like really hear from him that as much now, like you can still drop a Little John record in Vegas in a mixed club and that ship turns upside down.

Lit John is a common denominator and fun my nigga, like no matter where you go.

Yeah, that's that's the most accurate description I've ever heard on.

The east Side Boy is that though I know we have to get on.

The East Side Boys ship, you know I'm talking about like they still.

Performing, they still got the gas cans.

Yeah, oh wow, yeah wow, shout my nigga, Dug. We're gonna ask a question that he knows.

Ye, he manages the east Side Boys, trying to get them home.

What are they doing working?

What I'm saying that they're being the east Side Boys? But it's just not with Little John.

Okay, every dare I say that every.

Record there is Little John and the east Side Boys.

They have the right to go and perform.

No, I know they have the right and all that, taking nothing from nobody. And like I said, dare I say this?

But is is?

Is there an east Side Boy without Little John?

It was Little John and the two elements.

That's just like saying.

Diana, So at the moment, the surprise in that moment, I.

Mean, the supremes can be the supremes, but in the total scheme of things, not taking any weight anything away from them because they contributed to the total package.

Okay, so so this goes that, do you do you think it would be fair for them to be doing as much as a Little John based on how much Little John does?

Yeah, so they're doing They're like.

East Side it is capable for them to do.

Yeah, what what's your proudest, proudest moment? Proud as it comes from it in music and music.

Ship still being here still well, I don't know it's relevant.

But I'm here, Like, but I know I got the opportunity to keep doing shit like like, so I'm I'm proud that I ain't clowned out.

Okay, what about the movies, y'all y'all tapped into the movie side.

Now, Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm a Lego. Now you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm in a Lego movie. I'm a Lego like a whole that's cool, you are? I mean, I don't know Legos.

You know what I'm saying.

You know leg So I got a Lego. So that's what I'm proud of that because my kids like that. They think that's the coolest ship. So yeah, actually I take that. Yeah, the Lego being a part of Pharrell's documentary is a good one because I think it's just it's it's super creative and it affirms that that I'm I'm in the right company for the things I like.

Mm hmm.

How importantly it is you think it is to be around the right People's right about the right people.

That's a paramo.

That's that job one.

Like if you around the wrong person for what you're trying to do, that you're always in jeopardy of that person doing shit they were going to do, Like and the thing is, you know what they're gonna do, Like we're gonna all just brought somebody anyway, like you know

I can see it.

You can see it happening to the point where the ship that I've seen you tolerate and not is different.

You know what I'm saying. It's like all that shit is based on.

The people that you're around. So yeah, I think it's it's a one job. Won't get figured figure out who around because if you were to a circle full of squares, you gotta waffle, my nigga, like you are not doing well.

You gotta what's the stuff that what's the stuff in the industry or the culture right now that makes you cringe?

But there, hooker, you.

Said you ain't letting.

You know, cringe in real life. Bro, I don't petition.

What's the petition and put that ship down.

The section took the fun it is idiot, because you gotta have somewhere to put.

The hook section first. I don't know, can't stand up and be smoking. Maybe you can't. Look.

I burnt my hand because somebody was walking around the club with the hookah.

And behind me.

I guess by some adapt and put the ship down.

So that's what my my trauma come from. What my that makes me crack? I don't you know, I don't pay attention to it.

I don't like mm hmm re ship m M.

I don't.

If I don't, if it doesn't affect me in any positive way, I don't get invest So yes, I don't care that much.

Mm hmm.

Just who you think Beyonce is the greatest performer of all time? That's kind of random. We're just flowing on social media with the whole Christmas of all time. I mean, just.

No, bro, Michael Jackson is the great Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson for sure, like you know, and and it's not that she's not great, like she's obviously great, but yeah, I.

Think so when he's in the space of his his.

Own yeah, because that's like flat foot any like, without anything, he's Michael Jackson. You know, he's all of it back. And I'm not saying she's not just saying that he did that in any way that I remember that the most showing it's the person that she references, it's the person that you know.

So when you come to the next tier Beyonce, Chris Brown, what happens in that tier in your opinion?

What's the question?

The question? Is better? At all? Better?

Nigga?

Come on?

You talking about this girl who runs the nation of women?

Like like.

Right, you know she the best?

She the best, Like, ain't nowhere around that, Like she has an army of people the nigga you.

Actually put it in the category if you ask.

Them this, Yeah, they don't have to, Like there's nobody, like, nobody's disputing that. But you said all times, said Mike, but I'm saying now she Yeah, come on, and who who's doing it at that level with that kind of excitement, that kind of fandom, you know, like yeah, you got to give her that.

Like if you had a chance to curate the super Bowl, will be your first artist?

Any any hairtime job?

Yeah? Just one. Like they say, Okay, we're gonna let KP do the Haadtime show this year?

Who would you put up there?

Oh no, if you said this year, I'm still going Kendrick, I'm gonna go Kendrick, But but I would dress it some things around it. But I think he's the most important hip hop artist, if he might be the most important black artist we got right now, based on what he's doing, based on what he stands for, based on what he says, and based on normally that's not commercial.

Mm hmm. Do you think, like on the performance ship, like current artists and their performances might limit their longevity a little bit?

Yeah, yeah, I mean if you can't perform, you can only do what your song does.

Because there are like when we talk about Beyonce, she's the star is that she's made it past how what her song is like because if you think about the Renaissance album, right, that's a huge tour, but it wasn't the album with the biggest record on it of her career.

No, she's always she's always been the product, Like she's always understood that the songs are fuel for her car.

Like, the better the song, the bigger you're gonna be. Like the more the more people can understand and relate to the song, you have a better opportunity. It's like saying hello properly.

Mm hmmm. Listen. So twenty twenty five, what's what's the goals for KP? Goals accomplishes you are? What are your goals now? Like moving into this new year?

In your chapter, I have a TV show that I that I came up with with my homeboy guy and a friend of ours, Brett Matt wrote that I want to get off. That's it, Like, that's me. But the thing is, you wouldn't be like that. It's really a dope. I mean I think it's adult show and it's a real human it's an Atlanta Human show. But yeah, anyway, yeah, I got a human comedy. What is It's like, it's situational comedy, but it's it's.

On the podcast.

But it's smart.

I say that, so you So now I'm gonna go back to the movies. So you're really into the movie ship? Like fem the movies and ship now.

Yeah, yeah, I mean like I'm learning too, because it's like I'm not acting like I know this is something I wanted, Like he really.

Directly and he paying, he paying like he is paying for his learning.

He's doing it like he sent me some money for the role.

Yeah, I mean because it's it's real ship. It's like, look, we really want to do this shit. It ain't weigh that's a business not like. This ain't vanity shit. This ain't like I think I probe myself on the fact that all the people I deal with really want it in a way that's past ego. It's almost like I gotta do this, like they're creative in a way that they can't help it. So it's like you see two about here doing comedy. He gonna do a movie or whatever he thinks he gonna he's gonna give it one

And it's like, man, what hold on?

Well, I'm up, I might as well finish doing my ship, you know what I mean. It's yeah, it just goes back to that having the people around you that inspire you is super important.

How how important you like to keep fruit for relationships? You know what I'm saying?

If they if they bear fruit, try to keep it, you know what I mean? Like I don't. I think.

Trying to do it is weird if you have it, like yeah, it's like that's the hard with me because I'm like, I feel like all the relationships I got, they were built over circumstance situations like character testing, like so I know who I'm dealing with and they know

I can dig that. What do you do when people say make it like artists in the industry or just make it in the industry. What's your definition of make it or made it?

Not being dependent on somebody else's decision whether or not you do it again, m or what you do tomorrow?

What was your maid made it moment?

I ain't had that yet.

I'm successful, but i'm not. I'm not kick my feet up.

Again fuel because that is that the way that you fuel and motivate yourself. K has made it.

No, KP.

The Great is a destination, Like I'm trying to get there, bro, like the.

Great, yourself great.

I'm consistent, I'm I'm working hard. I'm like, yes, i think.

I'm great at being me for sure, that's all I matter. Like I'm the best.

KP out this bit, you made it? Yeah, So that's what I'm saying. So it's it's but but I also understand that I'm not. I don't know. I just don't feel like i'm doing right. Yeah, So it's like I'll make it when when I don't have no more to give.

Mm hmm, Josh Ship KP, the Great, Big Fact, I appreciate you. Man, say to the Big Facts supporters and followers in the game motivation you want to give them for the twenty twenty five.

You know what the real motivation is looking at mirror. If you like it, you're good. If you don't do better, that's.

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