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BIG FACTS feat. ICEWEAR VEZZO (2025)

Mar 04, 20251 hr 7 min
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In the latest episode of BIG FACTS, ICEWEAR VEZZO returns to the studio to have another classic conversation with the BIG FACTS crew!

 

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

I be on BBJ.

Speaker 3

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Speaker 4

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Speaker 5

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

Lab in the at L.

Speaker 6

It's time for Big Facts, Big bank baby DJ scream out here, listen returning the Big Facts Day is the one and only represent that Detroit I swear vessel. Yeah, how many change you got, man?

Speaker 1

You live up to your name.

Speaker 7

I only be wearing one of them motherfucker's.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 7

No, man, everybody everybody got jewey now that she don't mean nothing no more.

Speaker 6

You how you feel about it, And it's a lot of labs.

Speaker 1

It's a lot of labs to it too.

Speaker 7

Much, like you don't know who ship really fake?

Speaker 5

No movie fakes better than reap.

Speaker 7

Be like damn, feeling like I got fucked up.

Speaker 5

It's like, bro, I'm gonna spend one hundred thousand dollars on the watch, niggas spend fifteen hundred this bitch and ship shinier than that ship. But it's just like you know, wearing like six yeah, wearing six seven chains at the time, I feel like it just got it for me. It got a little burnt out because everybody got jewelry. Now, you know what I'm saying, So you don't mean ship. So I just said I'm wearing one big stupid ass chain.

Speaker 1

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7

Unless I'm out with the family, I throw small ship on.

Speaker 6

Yeah, yeah, the hell you've been on since the last time you came and joined.

Speaker 5

Us and ship everything. But just moving and grooving with the movies a lot lately. You know, I started up my movie production company, I Stuff.

Speaker 7

Yeah.

Speaker 5

We just wrapped up a film called Ride Share. It's like comedy slash drama type ship just that, just the music ship. I opened up a juice bar called Fresh and Press with my with my wife. We ended up in Troy, Michigan.

Speaker 7

Like what what what? What's like the most excoosive suburbs in that, like Georgia Ala. So that's equivalent to like being out there.

Speaker 3

You know what I'm saying, You're going to get money money.

Speaker 5

It been open for like a year and a half. It's doing amazing. We won three awards for brand for basically the rest of Juice Barn Michigan. But I think it was important for us to do that. It's like a reverse sy type ship. Like them folks out there, they come to the churches and they get money all day.

Speaker 7

So it's like, you know what I'm gonna come all at.

Speaker 3

You know, y'all are you guys going to franchise out eventually eventually?

Speaker 7

But we ain't.

Speaker 5

We ain't and no rest to do it. We want to keep everything stable and control, you know, franchise. It's a lot that come with that ship. You're not really able to control the quality.

Speaker 3

That's what I just about to ask you.

Speaker 8

Do you think it kind of words it down because you you have to kind of relinquish control that you have over.

Speaker 5

Everythingally, Ultimately, it's my wife's decisions.

Speaker 7

You know. I got it for her. You know, she's the truth.

Speaker 5

By the way, I love it, Like I ain't gonna capt I ain't really understand that business, you know what I'm saying, just being one hundred you know. Now, we had this conversation when she first brought it to me. From me, it was more so like let me let me do this for you know what I'm saying, so I can focus on when I focus on it, give you something to do type shit. But the way it when it's like she made me a true believer that shit like that industry, it's crazy, you know what I'm saying.

So yeah, I'm with it.

Speaker 7

I'm all in.

Speaker 8

And then on top of that, you also just came off of a sold out winning tour.

Speaker 7

Yeah yeah, yeah, a big ghetto How did that go? Bitch turned out? That was my first tour, like of my own tour.

Speaker 3

How did you like it?

Speaker 1

What was like?

Speaker 8

What did you what did you notice on it that you might want to possibly do differently for the next time you get ready to head out on the road.

Speaker 5

I didn't, So it ain't even necessarily about the road part because I'm used to the road. I just moved how I normally moved right, Shit went smooth. It was more so what I learned on approaching my music. I ain't put a lot of focus into the songs that be on a project like the in Between Records and shit like that.

Speaker 7

But every stop we went to, it was that it was that ship that had the.

Speaker 9

Ship more turned Yeah, what I'm saying in between quote unquote Fillers number seven and having and ship like that, ye turned that bitch up, you know, ship that I wasn't doing videos too.

Speaker 5

So for me, it was just like, you know what, every time I put out a project, I'm gonna shoot a video to every single song.

Speaker 3

Did you so while you were out, did you have like merching like ship that people?

Speaker 7

Yeah, we took everything that motheruck cool.

Speaker 4

What's some ship in the rap game that you're naive to when you first got in and now you woke to like down?

Speaker 5

I think I think starting off, you know, Nigga wanted a record deal like real bad. You know, we're front of the trenches, bro. So for us, that ship like going to the NBA or going to the NFL, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7

So, like I downplay distribution.

Speaker 5

Companies and and the power of the relationship that they bring and the amount of money that they willing to spend it. I didn't realize that distribution companies cut a bigger check than major record labels, you know what I'm saying. So I was naive to that, to that fact. I always had a record deal for the last seven eight years, you know, until I got out my record deal and

got some money with a distribution company. The amount of money that the game it was just retarded, you know what I'm saying, So I say that, and then just as an artist, I think I think we put too much emphasis on trying to link up with niggas.

Speaker 7

You know what I mean. I don't think they say.

Speaker 4

They gave you the money because you had the leverage though already, or what about like a new artist, or because you had leverage.

Speaker 5

I believe it was the leverage without a doubt, you know what I'm saying. So of course, like with any new artists, no matter what, even if it's with a major label, you still got to go build the leverage up because they.

Speaker 7

Not gonna sign you unless you got leverage. It ain't really too many.

Speaker 5

Labels that's taking no name artists in putting it all behind them. Paulse They not doing that shit no more. Like in the early two thousands, where a nigga like CHINGI. You know what I'm saying, mofucker walk in the record label play one so on it turn his ass to a starter.

Speaker 7

They don't do that no more. You got it, whether it's.

Speaker 5

A major or a dishtribution, come you gotta already have some type of leverage. And I think since we are, since we gotta have that leverage, you might as well, stay independent. Ain't know, it ain't nothing better than that, and you know, and that's it. If you're in it, you in this ship for the money, then you stay in the pending. But if you in it shit strictly for the fame, then you know, go fuck with the major.

I think certain artists should always be with a major, like motherfuckers like Kendrick and Drake, because they gonna spend a whole other type of bag and put a whole other type of push behind them nigga's music. So it makes sense for artists like that. Yeah, street artists like me, I think the best thing we could do is stay independent. Fuck with the distribution, like when grinding ship out.

Speaker 7

Real hustleway, real hustle away, Like get in the mud with this shit.

Speaker 5

We gotta get back to that, like you know, we got too used to the internet, the whole world, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4

I agree, because I think niggas street niggas come in and get a record, didn't feel like the labels supposed to do everything that the niggas really supposed to do yourself, because you've always been a hustler, you know what I'm saying, So when you try to put your hustle another another motherfucker in.

Speaker 5

Yeah right, And they ain't got that type of mentality that we got, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's a major label they got, they got the paper and all that, but they ain't got that go get a get the mug with this ship type of capabilities, they just take it. They don't even know where to start with that type of ship, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, so it's hard trying to convince them an idea that you got when they've been doing ship for a hundred years,

that been working for them. But you know this shit will work as well, you know. So yeah, they ain't gonna do it.

Speaker 8

So and their system ain't gonna necessarily work for your program. It's two totally different wavelengths for real.

Speaker 4

Then gets I gotta convince it all my ship when I know what this is doing already in the street.

Speaker 5

You know, it's so crazy, bro, Every fucking time I got a record deal, my ship slow up like crazy, everything slow up like as far as the music ship. Soon as I get back independent, I always shoot right to the roof again.

Speaker 7

Yeah, that ship is just like that for me.

Speaker 4

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

So I accepted. I accepted that that faith for myself. I'm just a street nigga, an independent artist, you know what I mean. I was forced to be a boss, you know, I ain't. I ain't gonna try to be a boss.

Speaker 7

I ain't.

Speaker 5

I ain't feel like I wanted to be no boss. I just want to take no classes on how to be a boss.

Speaker 7

And yeah, yeah, I ain't do none of that. I was. I was putting this position pause.

Speaker 5

I was forced to be to be like that, you know, And I'm learning a lot and I'm able to help out a lot of people around me, you know, the.

Speaker 7

Goals to get there.

Speaker 3

But they say pressure max dominds.

Speaker 7

Though, absolutely right, Selena, niggas. Niggas.

Speaker 4

Niggas don't be knowing that they already know what to do before they get here. They just thinking in another game. Now, you know what I'm saying. When you come, you're coming to another game. So coming from the game we come from, we go looking at it like, man, these people know what to do now, nigga, you know what to do.

Speaker 5

Know what to do, You've been doing it. Yeah, it's a different product, right, That's a fact. Every time I'm in that position where I gotta where I gotta do this ship alone, just me and my team, and I got a thug it out.

Speaker 7

We shoot right to the roof every time.

Speaker 5

It never feel as soon as I get with that label, that shit just drained down. Then I after that I be in a position to go chase shit that I just fucking had, you know what I'm saying. But I get that back and then I elevate every time. So all as well, I appreciate everything, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

How do you feel about what Detroit at right now?

Speaker 6

Seem like everybody just getting money handling their business, you know what I'm saying. I know they probably perfect, but it seems like it's just kind of emotion and everybody kind of just doing what they do, respecting each other and everything like that.

Speaker 7

Man, we work stupid hard for that shit, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

So to see that shit like coming to Fuition, it definitely mean a lot, you know what I'm saying, It's lit. I just I just want to stay focused, and you know, I don't want niggas to start feeling like this money is a lot, because this shit ain't, you know, what I'm saying, we gotta get wealthy, we gotta get stupid rich. I've seen a lot of niggas fuck they paper up, you know what I'm saying in the city. You know

niggas that I try to get gained too. Like, Bro, we ain't got nothing to prove of nobody, Bro say that sh up, you never know this shit an'll last for nobody. Can't make nobody fuck with you, You can't make nobody listen to music. So do the right right thing with your money, you know. But other than that, I feel like we we definitely turned.

Speaker 7

But it can be. It can be way bigger. We can be doing way more.

Speaker 5

We just gotta we just gotta get it to switch the mentality up in.

Speaker 7

Certain areas just a little bit, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

One thing I could say about Atlanta artists niggas from Atlanta, where the Atlanta artists, Atlanta.

Speaker 7

Niggas come first. You know, I ain't nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 5

That's that's that's equivalent to to to more fucking black power. You know, ain't nothing wrong black power, Ain't nothing wrong with any other power. Ain't nothing wrong with a white motherfucker wan white power like, so it ain't nothing wrong for an Atlanta nigga to Atlanta niggas first.

Speaker 7

And I think we got to learn to do that.

Speaker 5

We got to appreciate ourselves first, like especially like if you a nigga that niggas embraced when you came out, Niggas helped you out, gave nigga versus and turn turn turned niggas up to ship and put niggas on ship, you know, plugs connections on ship. Let nigga move around. We gotta stop thinking when we get to that area, we go out and spread that, spread ourselves so thin that we're showing love and putting a Detroit niggas that's on the up and coming on the on the on

the back, on the back end. I don't respect no nigga to do that from no city. You're you're from a fucking Niagara Falls. You from Niagara Falls. You turn, you turned up, you put up turn Niagara Falls. Put the niggas first. And I think I know for a fact that's something that Atlanta do. I don't know if they do that shit intentionally or if it's just how the ship pan out. Yeah, you know, I think I think we got to get better at that.

Speaker 6

What about the people thought like, And I'm just putting it out there because we've had artists that sit here and say, Man, but you know, it's so much hate at home, so they might not always feel embraced at home. So they might get love. They might move to Miami in your love, they might move to whatever in your love. Once you think about in that situation.

Speaker 7

But that's why I said, it's starting off. If you're a nig that niggas show.

Speaker 8

Like, if you're in a position I'm saying, if you're not the nigga that's trying to get the love, but you're the nigga that got the love and you're up there like you gotta come back and then write the little niggas and the niggas is trying to get that love and give it to them something they don't have to feel like they gotta go to Miami or they gotta go to fucking Atlanta or wherever else.

Speaker 5

Exactly, not to the to the niggas that that that might not get no love at all from the city, but they gotta go to the Bay and turn up as well. The niggas got every right to be like nigga fuck home. You know what I'm saying, because ain't nobody else fair. That's fair game, you know what I'm saying. But like I said, if you're a nigga that you've been in that, when you was in that positioning, niggas lifted you up. We got to keep that cycle going, don't.

But I think a lot of niggas it'd be pride issues or niggas feeling like it's some type of soft press, like motherfuckers try to put them in position like they owe people and then it ain't always about that, and people do do that. I have family try to play it like that with me, like I owe a nigga something, and I know I don't owe nobody nothing. It ain't about it ain't about that though. It's about doing the

right thing. It's the right way to do ship, and it's the wrong way to do ship, you know what I'm saying. And the only reason that that mattered, and that's important because if we want this way to last, that's the only way that ship gonna last. If this ship end with all us, with all the niggas that's turned right now, if it in with us, then it's gonna be another ten twenty years to some more new young niggas come out and turn that bitch up. If we if we stop that cycle, it's off. We gotta

keep this ship going. We got to keep pulling niggas in and turning niggas up. That's just how I gotta go.

Speaker 3

So this is what I wanted to ask you too.

Speaker 8

How did it feel to see the East Side and the West Side all on one stage at that concert?

Speaker 7

That was important?

Speaker 5

You know, I was a part of the the logistical side of I was a part of all sides of the ship out.

Speaker 7

I was.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 5

The second reason, you know, with the chedne boys and street lords, you know they had they it got a little better, and then because of me and some of my homies, fucked it all up again.

Speaker 7

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

I played a part in demolishing that So I felt it was important that I played the part in fixing that ship as well. Because it wasn't about nothing. Ain't nobody die, you know what I mean. Nobody got hurt. It wasn't about no paper, it wasn't about nothing. We was just young niggas jealous of each other. You know what I'm saying that's all that shit was, But that was important to to to witness that and be there and be instrumental to putting that ship together.

Speaker 8

Yeah, when I saw that ship, it was just like me looking at like when Kendrick brought the Bloods and the Crips on stage, like that ship was.

Speaker 3

That was a big, major ship, like for the town for real, Like.

Speaker 5

That ship went a long way, especially for the young niggas, like you know when they seen that, we was able to do that.

Speaker 7

But you want to know, it's crazy.

Speaker 5

It ain't even just about no music ship, right, I'm gonna tell you something that happened that's that's that's even more bigger than that. That that that really really just the type of ship that that that's bringing down the crime rate down.

Speaker 7

That motherfucker.

Speaker 5

We had two real size of crews of niggas that had real smoke, where niggas died and bled and lost best friends and cousins and nephews and uncles and shit.

Speaker 7

Niggas died, died, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

And I did a I don't even I'm not a podcaster, you know, but I rap. You know, I want to stay in my lane everything. Something is for everybody. You know, I don't believe in trying to swerve.

Speaker 7

In everybody landing because the ship might look easy. I don't mean to.

Speaker 5

But I did a podcast because I had Fox two and I had the Bloods in the same room at the same table.

Speaker 7

Now that's what really changed the landscape of Detroit. Like a round table. Yeah, it was a round table. That's what really changed shit.

Speaker 6

You know.

Speaker 7

It was them two sides coming together.

Speaker 5

They had already you know, started putting the pieces to the puzzle together, and then I just came along and hey, bro, let me show this.

Speaker 7

Ship to the world. I think the world need to see that. So a lot of people it's possible. Yeah, it happened. It happened.

Speaker 5

So a lot of people like, it's not from the trait. They may think it was the It was us and a dull boys ship that kind of ease tensions up.

Speaker 7

It wasn't that, because that was that ship was wrapped. You know, that was just music.

Speaker 5

Them two sides coming together change ship for a lot of the young niggas in the city.

Speaker 3

It changed the landscape.

Speaker 7

It changed the landscape of everything.

Speaker 5

That ship a bought the crime rate down literally it really about the crime rate down these two sides that really, you know what I'm saying, Like the bank it got ship went on forever, and it was it could have went on forever. Broish ship was on national geographic like it was. It was like, literally, Bro, this ship was on.

Speaker 4

Make you feel that was a part of getting that ship like that.

Speaker 5

I ain't gonna I ain't gonna sit and try to make myself look like the big dog. I ain't gonna say I was a part of them niggas, you know, moving.

Speaker 7

Past that ship.

Speaker 5

But I was definitely was a part of bringing them niggas in one room in front of the world, you know, because it wasn't happening at the time. What they was doing was more so behind the scenes, and they allowed me to convince them that, Bro, everybody needed to see this ship.

Speaker 7

The whole world. I need to see this ship.

Speaker 5

So that ship definitely made me feel, you know what I'm saying, like I accomplished something and I put my I put my music career on the line doing that ship. Because you know how motherfuckers look at rap nigga that I already owned a bunch of business. You know what I'm saying, so now it's look at it's like, damn broke the podcast too, not like, but it wasn't It wasn't about me though. It was about the city and it was about I just did that one. Yeah, that

sh it was important. That it was important. I pushed the whole album back for just to do that ship you know what I'm saying. It took some time, but we got there.

Speaker 1

They said.

Speaker 8

Else, I know, just like from following you or whatever you're really big on, like the whole motivation and the whole you know, like kind of sort of for lack of a better way to put it, breathing life in the niggas and trying to help them do the right thing. And I saw something that you put up the other day where you were basically talking about when you're doing the right thing, if you're not doing the right thing

for the right reasons. For instance, if you're doing the quote unquote right thing to reap the benefits of doing the right thing, then you're really not doing the right thing and you're not reaping in the benefits and you're really a fuck nigga for real, like at the end of the day. But I just want you to kind of just talk about like where what made you just kind of like feel the need to really speak to the niggas and the people about like just some righteous shit outside of rap.

Speaker 7

Niggas ain't speak no righteous shit to me outside of rap.

Speaker 5

Yeah, what I'm saying, we ain't had it, like, we ain't had too many ogs trying to trench of them niggas. I passed the niggas buying new currents, ride up the block, ship pounded to fifteen's in the trunk. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, twenty four inch spinners and niggas slide past the young niggas. Niggas ain't give us no game. Yeah, niggas ain't do none of that ship, you know what I'm saying. So I think it's important that we do that. You know that I do that. That's something that's genuine

with me. And another thing is just like I'm against I'm against entitlement. Yeah, I'm really against that Niggas be feeling titled to something, Niggas be.

Speaker 7

Feeling like that they have all.

Speaker 5

Yeah, niggas be feeling like they need to be rewarded for doing this shit.

Speaker 4

They waking up bringing up to get something for waking up and I knew you.

Speaker 7

I had, I had niggas close to me.

Speaker 5

Tell me, Bro, I ain't telling you, bro, like that's a nigga don't come from nothing, nigga. Fuck is you talking about niggas? You're not supposed to tell nigga it shouldn't be on your mind.

Speaker 7

I really don't want to fuck with. I just can't fuck with.

Speaker 4

That's all about to ask you along the way, like how many niggas just couldn't go like that? You thought you could take.

Speaker 5

A lot of niggas. A lot of niggas couldn't go to that. I thought I could take You know what I'm saying. But I always always, uh, I tell niggas what it is up front.

Speaker 7

You know I don't leave nobody on.

Speaker 5

I don't leave niggas the moment I felt like a nigga can't go, I let them know. You know what I'm saying. I don't stringer it cause I don't need no nigga to do nothing for me. You know what I'm saying. I ain't calling no nigga bust no head for me. I don't need a nigga to do nothing for me, Bro. I'm a man. I got a son a raise, I got a little girl to raise. I gotta be able to take care of my own family, you know what I'm saying. And then I know the way niggas think. Bro, You know it been times that

we was short. These were shit have happened when the homies to God handle whatever get handled, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7

And it don't be nothing from that halftime.

Speaker 5

I wouldn't even know, you know what I'm saying, Like Nigga ain't even said nothing to me. I'm finding out with everybody else what happened, like where there's a fight or anything.

Speaker 7

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

I find out what everybody else like. We ain't used to do that ship, you know what I'm saying, But niggas do that a lot. And that's why I feel like a lot of niggas just can't go because of that entitlement and niggas be feeling like they owe something and they supposed to get rewarded. And for me, that ship come off like a soft press. I can't accept that. Man, that's a soft pressure. You know what I'm saying. I can't take as a.

Speaker 7

Man, Bro.

Speaker 5

I got a wife, bro, like I can't lay lay in the bed that night next to my wife going a nigga just fake soft prison. I can't do it, bro, I can't. Don't make sense for me as a human, as a man, you know what I'm saying. So that's what that message was about. Like I you know, so many niggas just be on the internet trophies and I rewarding to get rewarded for for for not being rats or for not being thieves, not pillow talking of for not fucking on. They homie old lady, when when they

homie in prison and ship like that. I remember when I got out the fast I posted my paperwork on Instagram. You know, I'm on some cloud ship trying to get a buzz real quick ship slow. I'm about to sign the MO time. I gotta kick it up. Can I do this a new way? Nigga, We're gonna kick it up? Yeah, the paperwork on the Instagram paperwork party. My OG called me say, nephew, what the fuck is you doing? I say, what you're talking about?

Speaker 7

Man? Why you post that ship on your page? I say, oh, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5

Let these niggas no nigga stood tall nigga ain't never told on nobody saying, nephew, just did two years?

Speaker 7

Is you doing? You had? You had a gun charge? Yeah, like, nigga, what you what you did?

Speaker 4

Like?

Speaker 7

What? What? What is you wanting from that? You want a nigga exactly?

Speaker 4

I kind of disagree with that. We do gotta start again the nigga. Some who stay silid because it's it's rare.

Speaker 5

No, but what but what I was saying, yeah, yeah, no, But what I was saying, yeah, you got a letter.

Speaker 7

Nigga do that on their own.

Speaker 5

You get what I'm saying, Like, nigga, do some real niggas looking for it, don't come looking for it because guess what, you gotta allow me to be a real nigga.

Speaker 7

And that's a real nigga.

Speaker 5

If you do some real nigga ship for me, I gotta be a real nigga back and you know, and make sure that energy get reciprocated. But when you looking for it and when you asking for it, then I know it's a soft press and it's entitlement and you ain't do this because you're gue. I know man if I do that, if I display this that you.

Speaker 1

Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

Yeah, but you gotta allow niggas to be a real nigga. And how you doing if I'm a real nigga. You gotta give me a chance to show you. You know what I'm saying. You gotta let let me not do something now I'm a fuck nigga. Let me show you if I'm a nigga.

Speaker 7

Don't ask.

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

With a bitch, that's a turn off bit you asking. See if I'm a player for a bitch, see if I'm.

Speaker 3

A Yeah, you didn't cut before? Godamn?

Speaker 2

How many people?

Speaker 4

How many people you think back at home blaming you for that position right now?

Speaker 5

Ship a lot of I know, for shows, a lot of niggas, a lot of people. You know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna say I can count on I need. I need more than two hands to count, you know. But I think any I think even one person is too many. Shouldn't nobody be blaming me for their position? Because I ain't never blame nobody. Yeah, yeah, it ain't

even that. It's that without a doubt. But what I'm saying is, you know, just just off my leadership skills, right you know, uh, just for I ain't leader or no game, and I don't.

Speaker 7

Natural leadership up you know, well, you know, just off like natural leadership skills. Bro.

Speaker 5

I just you know, I display I display certain ship, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, like I think one one person, one person is just way too many, you know what I mean by I display ship? I ain't never know nobody can ever remember a time of me blaming anybody for anything unless it was a direct fuck up or direct mistake. And it's the difference between blaming somebody holding them and holding.

Speaker 3

And holding them accountable for it.

Speaker 7

Yeah what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

Yeah, and the people that wanted that don't want to be held accountable. They take that accountability as being blamed.

Speaker 3

But yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 4

I agree with that because that's you know, that's my ship. Now though, like I blame myself for everything, because if I blame somebody else, it can't be fixed. I blame myself. I can fix what it is, you know what I'm saying, No, what it is only if you could be dead in the wrong. But I blame myself for even fucking with you, so I can that.

Speaker 8

Just don't fun with them, you know what I'm saying exactly.

Speaker 5

So I just feel like whatever I'm not disciplaining, motherfucker display that ship right back.

Speaker 7

Just that just as a leader, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5

So yeah, it's a few people that blame me for for the positions that they in life.

Speaker 7

But that's not my fault. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

Nigga, nigga grown bro, Niggas gotta start realizing and understand it.

Speaker 7

Niggas got families to take care of.

Speaker 8

We got children, have real dependence that came from me.

Speaker 7

You got a little.

Speaker 6

I got.

Speaker 7

They are they are? They are titled to my Yeah, they're titled to.

Speaker 5

My time and and allly above they gotta come first before any motherfucker body, before before anybody, before anybody. My kids, My kids come before my mama. That ship sounds crazy, but but they agree with She agreed with that because she taught me to do that because guess what, we came before her parents, and that's how that ship supposed to.

Speaker 7

Be, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, on.

Speaker 6

Your journey, what it's on in the music game, or you know what I'm saying, your personal life, is there any is anything like if you could go back in time you would pivot and do different.

Speaker 5

I think, what what what would landed me in jail for for a gun that was never on me at all? Invisible firearm two years was you know at the end of the day. And yeah, I say that right, But I still blame myself for that because I can play with them people and look at it like y'all locked me up for no reason.

Speaker 7

But in reality though we I know, like they know, it wasn't for no reason. You know what I'm saying. They needed something to get in again.

Speaker 5

That bsion that's what stuck, and that's that's what's stuck and them people, you know in a sense that should say me. But to answer your question, I will, I will, I would not. I'm mixed up both. I thought that I could do both. I thought that I could still hustle and build a rap label because I thought I thought Pete Pete did it. I thought Baby did. I thought them niggas this was the this was the recipe. I didn't know no better.

Speaker 7

Yeah, we just was. It just looked like was out that as a way younger nigga. I didn't get.

Speaker 8

That, you know, and they just had to make it look like But.

Speaker 5

Yeah, but I came up in the era of really happened and had a ship that you rap about and really happened to have happened to have live that ship. So I was living my wraps and I think that was the stupidest ship I ever did in my life, you know what I'm saying. And I think it's even dumber for another nigga to go live. Yeah, I wouldn't

have did that like that. I thought I could do both auld the bench hops like like I ended up choosing eventually, you know, when it was too late, but then it was right on time at the same time, if that makes sense. You know what I'm saying. I wouldn't have did that. It sucked up a lot. You know, ship would have went way faster. But in the end, God don't make mistakes. And I can't imagine myself the amount of money that I got right now, I can't imagine myself having it with the mentality I had the

big facts, big faster bro. I wasn't big last. I always say that I wouldn't have lasted bro. Non would have been like, man, who the fucked this young nigga? Think a nigga move around like Nino brown Man, we gotta yeah fuck brown with little Cuz, Like, yeah, you know what I'm saying, So yeah, I wouldn't have did that.

Speaker 7

I wouldn't have did that.

Speaker 8

And then another thing too that I just remember from our last conversation is you were just speaking on the power of having like solid females like on your team, like your wife, Chanelle, your mom. You know what I'm saying. Everybody that's around you is kind of like helping you grow. As far as coming back today in twenty twenty five, do you still feel like that's the mentality or like, how do you like how.

Speaker 3

Do you feel about that?

Speaker 8

And what do you suggest to other people As far as having women on your team as far as I mean versus having like a bunch of men like running your shit.

Speaker 5

It started off as a mentality and then it turned into a hustle. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, because women women. Every time my mama ever told me a nigga won't write fact, she wouldn't motherfucking line. And I ended up learning later even my even my wife, she done been around and seeing certain niggas like I don't like I don't like dog vibe, I don't like dogs.

Speaker 7

I't even had to see him but one time.

Speaker 5

One time man, and I find out a year later, like them, I should have listened, you know what I'm saying. So, I believe that's something that God gave women. Was I think intuition. I think I think women's six cents sixth sense is the intuition. And like men, we got great intuition as well, but it's just not as strong as a woman's is. You know what I'm saying women, because I'm a woman.

Speaker 7

Shit, women go get and listen.

Speaker 5

Women killing this shit just all around the board, and every women.

Speaker 3

Day coming up.

Speaker 7

Okay, killing ship. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

So, And the reason why I say it started off from mentality, from a mindset to a hustle because you know, I've seen it that way, and once I got the results, it's like, is it it's the way.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's the only Yeah, you don't get that money.

Speaker 7

I'm gonna make sure that money comes and.

Speaker 3

They gonna make sure you're good and make sure good.

Speaker 7

Absolutely.

Speaker 5

When when when my when my like Schneil or Danny, you know when they when they travel with me, I feel like I'm you know what I'm saying because I got that, I got that woman around me.

Speaker 3

Because women are like natural nurturers.

Speaker 8

They're gonna make sure that like you have your toiletries, or they're not gonna feel any kind of way because they need to pack your bag or you know what I'm saying. They need to go do this or go do that. It's not a like a it's not a complex there. When you need to get some ship done as opposed to possibly one of your homeboys.

Speaker 4

A nigga gonna always feel like I can do what he can do. Yeah, Yeah, that's what a nigga gonna look at like, damn if I just had your if I could do that, that's a fact that that's happened. Like man, he ain't doing I'm right, yeah, you ain't. Nigga feel like they could be a better you than you.

Speaker 7

That's a fact.

Speaker 5

Instead of telling a nigga like hey bro, you shouldn't do that like that game, I think you should play it like this, Just try that ship, see how it works. A nigga saying the idea for herself like fuck that, I'm I'm just do this ship myself. I've seen so many niggas go from managers to rappers, bro, like it don't make it. I don't think it makes sense to have a million niggas around you and y'all all doing the same thing, right, I don't think.

Speaker 7

I don't think that that build greatness. It doesn't.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I think different mentalities and different ideas and.

Speaker 8

Bill's monotony because it's like all the same ship just going over and over again.

Speaker 4

And you can't have all the same niggas that came from the same background that you. Yeah, you gotta have a nigga come from different walks of license, because you can't learn from a nigga that you know everything you know.

Speaker 1

You know what I'm saying, Like, we all know the same ship.

Speaker 4

So we're gonna be talk, We're gonna be stuck in the bubble talking.

Speaker 7

The same fucking but we ain't learning ship. Nothing. I can't teach you.

Speaker 4

You can't teach me ship. The only thing I can teach you here, because I'm the one glowed up, is that you can be me because you know I come where you come from. Bro.

Speaker 5

Yeah, but but but then again, the plus side like having having niggas on your crew or your team and ship is that is the not saying women ain't dominant, but it's just a different type of dominance, you know what I'm saying, Just like, yeah, we're gonna kick this bitch down all the way down.

Speaker 7

Yeah, Hey, bro, what's up? What we're doing?

Speaker 1

Bro?

Speaker 7

What you got?

Speaker 5

Come on, you're gonna do this. Bro, nigga's not a will and deal, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but but the good thing a woman ain't about the willing deal. If some ship it's twenty fives, we want to do yeah fifty, that's yeah, Like I mean.

Speaker 3

How that's when you get it? Was like what we're doing.

Speaker 7

But a nigga know that, Like, man, know that bitch gonna take it. And then you know what I say, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, but it's all it's all plusus with with.

Speaker 5

Everything and everybody side and downside of everything that.

Speaker 6

Man, I saw you hosting that uh that rap battle with a calical shot calico, and I guess I asked you, like how you think them battle rap niggas like are able to battle because they be taking shots like dissing each other's mom and dad and pete like, and I think I saw your face on one line on that battle lo I couldn't know.

Speaker 1

I couldn't be.

Speaker 6

That's tough, bro, How you think you think it's just the paper. They're doing it because they get they be getting the paper.

Speaker 5

They get paid wrap battle rappers get paid dogs. It wasn't like that them niggas. Niggas built See, I never knew that.

Speaker 7

That battle Wrap community.

Speaker 5

That ship is so huge, Like the boys got fans in fucking Switzerland.

Speaker 3

And like that really like some slick streaming.

Speaker 1

It's like boxing, rapping boxing.

Speaker 7

That ship is serious, Like it's like boxing. It's the same, it's the exact same thing.

Speaker 4

Yeah for me.

Speaker 7

So it's a lot of money.

Speaker 4

Niggas, a lot of white brother sometimes down down.

Speaker 7

They go down.

Speaker 5

But I think I think we'll keep well, keep the because because a lot of it's a lot of battle represents.

Speaker 7

That's real street niggas. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

But I think what kind of keep them niggas in line is just not want to fuck the money up. I think in the agreements it be you know, if you swing, you lose that back in and it's a contract that they signed. So what ain't about to get all the way here and miss out on picking up a fifty thousand dollars back in thirty thousand dollars back in me personally, I haven't built myself up to that point where.

Speaker 1

You're gonna swing.

Speaker 3

I'm not playing with no nigga.

Speaker 7

I haven't grown that far.

Speaker 2

I ain't healed.

Speaker 1

Nigga.

Speaker 5

The niggas hug it up afterwards by yeah like that, man, I guess yeah, they make a bag though. You know what I'm saying, So I man, you know that's that's that's they they understand their industry.

Speaker 7

I got some more growing to do. I got a lot of more growing to do.

Speaker 5

I'm not yet know what I'm saying, Like I love my little girl, man, I love my little boy like I love my mom, like nigga just like, yeah, nigga, your daughter a bitch.

Speaker 7

I smacked the ship out your daughter when I.

Speaker 1

They say ship stuff like that.

Speaker 7

Bro, what the fuck?

Speaker 2

Who?

Speaker 10

Like?

Speaker 6

Man, I was nervous when I was watching, when I was what does it be? What's what's the name of the league? The Calico Guy B and B al League. Yeah, but it was like, in a weird way, it was kind of like love like kicking it. Yeah, but you see some of them faces I'm like, man, it looked like it could go down.

Speaker 7

I'm not it was. It was a couple of times.

Speaker 5

I'm like, because I was with one of my homies and ship, I'm like, man about to throw down in this bitch like he with me in the city with me, I knew dude was about to try to swing on something.

Speaker 7

I just knew this ship was about to happen. But yeah, it went right. The boys handled theirself like professionals.

Speaker 4

Who want young nigga coming out of Detrouit who might not know about.

Speaker 5

Like man, there's so many young niggas bro like, like I say, like, uh y be in a little bro you know what I mean? Uh sbr ps like rich time butter my fucking man, it's so many young niggas just that's moving and grooving down that motherfucker. I don't I don't want to miss name who.

Speaker 7

You would say what twenty two of the boat? But who else? Like went up? T went up? T kind of damn there he done that where he need to be. Man, So many of them.

Speaker 5

Young niggas turn man like then them niggas be all they having their own little shit going on.

Speaker 7

But it's a gang of niggas turned front Detroit.

Speaker 4

You know what I'm saying, what's the spot there's there's there's like go to spot.

Speaker 5

You know, it's crazy. We ain't got one no more. It used to be Truth, Yeah, the Truth night club. We ain't got one no more. It's over our clubs. The club seeing in Detroit right now. Horrible that ship terrible, Ship boring. It's like the same motherfuckers go out.

Speaker 1

Yeah, ship boring.

Speaker 5

It's it's stupid dry right now. It's like the air right now.

Speaker 8

Ain't no way, but she did now real brot Really the only thing popping right now is like the strip clubs and ship.

Speaker 3

They got a couple of like little R and B spots or whatever.

Speaker 7

Rest.

Speaker 1

Restaurants, restaurant.

Speaker 5

Yeah, that's how it is in the city right now. Everything just that she is dead. Bro Clubs.

Speaker 7

Ship come over with a little bit. I think may probably possibly to the summertime.

Speaker 3

Yeahs might start coming back outside.

Speaker 4

Hey, what you think beside the buff that Detroit brought to the world.

Speaker 7

I think it's uh the type of beats that a lot of people wrapping on.

Speaker 5

Oh for sure, what I'm saying we brought up, We brought a distinct sound, you know what I mean, Like even the sound that so like it's like it's multiple sounds inside of Detroit. So then you got like the Flint sound, you know where they should like super duperd fast, like the energy beats all that type of ship. Then you got that Detroit sounding and like motherfucker's in Michigan. You can tell a Flint rapper from a Detroit rapper

strictly by the beat. But we already had like a like a darker where niggas wrapping on like darker Detroit beats, but a little a little slow to.

Speaker 7

Him back in the day.

Speaker 4

We're doing that day day family so hard.

Speaker 7

Yeah, nigga, I'm waking up. I brought that. I brought that.

Speaker 5

I brought that one little sign back you know what I'm saying. So and watch the rest of the world just like gravitate to that ship.

Speaker 7

That ship turned.

Speaker 10

You know what I meant, big, I think y'all, I think y'all kind of got damn master the movie ship.

Speaker 7

Independent movie ship.

Speaker 3

We got to the first time I ever heard.

Speaker 2

I ever got niggas putting that one ear week.

Speaker 7

That to mother independent Detroit movie scene is retarded right now, it's so much money. And that ship.

Speaker 5

When I did my first two movie, I got that. I couldn't believe, bro, I couldn't believe that ship.

Speaker 7

That ship throwed me off. I'm like, man, what the fuck? Now?

Speaker 5

I see why the Nigga fifty do movies and like you know what I'm saying, that's all they doing. Like that's that ship serious, bro, motherfucker ship on tubing And you know too, we got that little stigma on their name.

Speaker 2

Man too, we got we got the real.

Speaker 4

Movies.

Speaker 5

That's what everything everybody watching tube bro to we turned I used to.

Speaker 4

Be trying to too, like they were like some bootlegs ship or the ship was ash it no to we got the movies though, we got ship a ride out on two.

Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah, we definitely. I feel like we definitely turned up the independent music. You know what's crazy, The movie ship and the rap ship took off for Detroit at the exact same time that. Yeah, because you got you got you got companies like Mulai feels like them boys got some ship.

Speaker 7

They got them grow abb and the h Block ship and the buffed up and the two that big by the black dude.

Speaker 1

Yeah yeah, that boy.

Speaker 5

They got some ship seen a like Mulai feelm's t like them boys, got some ship. Busy, he doing what he's doing, what he's supposed to do. Like come on Smith and mother fucking man, some ship. He's got some ship. It's made me jump in that ship. I already like acting and writing.

Speaker 7

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

So I'm like funk that. I say the money the niggas making out that ship. I had to suit my shot.

Speaker 1

It works stopping.

Speaker 7

I ain't quitting fucking.

Speaker 6

If you if you if you like, if you if you want to Detroit, well you like that if you didn't live in Detroit, well so would you want to live?

Speaker 1

What's your other favorite city? Like close to Detroit?

Speaker 7

Close to Detroit my other favorite city?

Speaker 6

Uh?

Speaker 7

You know what's like It'll either be Miami, Houston or probably here they ain't close. But you know, but I don't.

Speaker 5

I don't think I'm move in front of Detroit. You know what I'm saying. That's my backyard. Like I just think strategically, bro, I think different, Like you know, wherever I go, I gotta bring my family, my wife and my kids. And I remember vividly like times where rap niggas came to Detroit and they got Airbnb's on eight Mile or on nine miles in Southfield, And yes, that's the suburbs, but it's not the suburbs.

Speaker 7

You be thinking you somewhere, laid back in, you somewhere say split you ain't. Yeah, yeah, right in the middle.

Speaker 8

Of the man.

Speaker 5

Motherfucker posted camming it up in the kitchen. Nigga, know where you're at exactly. It was like when it comes to Detroit, I know, I know my city, that's my backyard that I know how to move.

Speaker 7

I know when to move, when not to move. I know where to go.

Speaker 1

I know what time to go.

Speaker 7

If I'm if gas station, I know what gas station.

Speaker 5

I know what road to take traffic long. I know what light that I don't really fuck with certain it's certain streak lights. I don't even I don't care for you. I don't know this type of ship if I'm in that line, I don't know what jacket.

Speaker 1

Ship.

Speaker 7

Yeah.

Speaker 5

So until I'm in a position where I, you know, when I finally like retire with just business and just life and all that ship period, I'm gonna have to if that's something we decided to do.

Speaker 7

Is moving out of town. I have to go for a couple of years first getting freed in my family.

Speaker 5

Learning last year, you know, brought a blueprint out and we figured this ship out.

Speaker 7

But I'm at home right now. You know one thing about it.

Speaker 5

You know, I do understand that a lot of a lot of artists move, they have to move from the city that they in because of the hate or whatever the fuck is going on, which you know that's possibly out of their control. But one thing I learned, and somebody told me, it's in prison because I was gonna. I was gonna do my probation to Atlanta, and he's like, bro, why you going to Atlanta. I'm like, ship Trey Hot,

I'm not going. I want to go back there when people fuck with me every fucking week, rated my restaurants in all my businesses once a week like that. That ship I went through with the police, bro was ridiculous, and I didn't want to do that again. But you know what he said, Bro, He said that you need to go back home, bro, because it ain't about where you live, it's how you move.

Speaker 7

Fact, you can move at home as if you live out of town, and that's what I do. Facts yeah. Fact, listen to that ship.

Speaker 4

Greater game ever he gave you me. Shit go a long way like Nigga be Nigga, I be Nigga. I don't want to be seen for six months and Nigga won't see me and.

Speaker 7

You in the state the whole time. Again, I'm stealing, no and I'm seeing them.

Speaker 6

You know.

Speaker 4

Fact.

Speaker 7

Fact when he's said that ship, that ship stuck with me, and I did that ship.

Speaker 5

When I got home my dad, I just movedly looser like like Brus said, I get seen when I feel like getting seen, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7

Rather, I'd rather see a motherfucker before they see me. Yeah. So yeah, I got, I got. I got a couple of little one one pickup trucks and ship like that.

Speaker 5

Motherfucker every day boy, my favorite cars, you know what I'm saying Like that, I'm tired of spending money on them cars.

Speaker 7

Anyway.

Speaker 4

Do you feel like a lot of this ship that the Nigga was was won as a young nigga or before we got it.

Speaker 7

Don't be this ship.

Speaker 5

Don't be about nothing. Ship don't mean nothing. I'm talking about nothing. I spent five hundred thousand dollars for a Rose Race for a ghost boy at the Rose Race Dealership. That ship ain't do nothing for my career. It did nothing for me. It did nothing for my business. I caught a two weeks stunt, meaning everyone said, everybody saw yeah, yeah, mean it took about two weeks for everybody knew I had the bitch. It ain't mean that bitch, ain't it

ain't mean nothing, five hundred dollars on the drink. Then I lost the hundred racks the moment and moved it, pushed off the lot and the fucked up thing. One thing I realized right is that the Roseworce Dealership is approximately I did a math, like I'm serious about the Roseworst Dealership is approximately seven minutes from my juice bar. I spent five hundred thousand with them. Them folks in came my juice bar and spent five dollars. That shits

something to me. I don't like that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7

That's cold, Yeah, it's cold.

Speaker 5

Only only one jeweler came to my juice bar, which was the dudes from Hush Jury. Nobody else like. So I start looking at everything like that when I spend my money. I want to support motherfuckers who's supporting me back? Because them folks taking their money and they going to spend it in their own communities or they putting or they taking my money in and putting it in other businesses that that that might be an opposing business to mine.

Speaker 7

Either way, I'm not getting my money, not coming back for a circle.

Speaker 4

Sometimes people mad that you able to buy the ship though, yeah, you know what I'm saying. They're gonna treat it nice to get the commission in the ceiling and on it, but they really don't want us to.

Speaker 7

When I call that man, I told them I one trade a bitch here.

Speaker 4

Bro.

Speaker 7

Man was talking to me like you know what I'm saying, like like I was a nobody like and.

Speaker 5

Not disrespectfully, but the sarcasms, just the way he was moving. Let me call you back, give you about five minutes and don't call back ship like that. So that ship just made me look at a lot of that ship different. My stupid ass still win and bought some more cards, but it's over for that. It's a waste of money.

Speaker 6

Bro.

Speaker 5

We ain't got nothing to prove to nobody, don't mean nothing. I ain't so one album because I got a fucking rose words. That ship don't mean nothing. That ship made me look like food round in that motherfucker.

Speaker 4

This ship feel good for one or two days.

Speaker 7

Bro, that's it. Bro, that's it.

Speaker 5

That's where everything that I bought, everything that I ever bought, like you know, some flashy shite. I had fun with that ship for for about two weeks. After that it be over. It don't mean it, don't it don't feel like nothing. I don't feel it.

Speaker 7

It don't do nothing for me.

Speaker 3

Really really started regretting.

Speaker 7

That every imediate.

Speaker 4

It ain't been a time where I didn't regret immediately I leave the club, but I used to lead a club with I told you that, I just left another club full of regret.

Speaker 2

That money get it in car.

Speaker 4

You feel like, why the fuck did I just do that? Fuck doing that fun and tomorrow is something you got to spend some money on for real?

Speaker 7

That's meaning for me.

Speaker 4

Yeah, you just spent that twice and them that ship don't be meaning ship.

Speaker 5

I spent five hundred thousand roads rights and I only spend two hundred on my studio.

Speaker 7

That was the stupidest ship. Like you understand what I'm.

Speaker 3

Saying, yeah, saying it like that in comparison, like, yeah.

Speaker 5

That's when you make your money, and two hundred thousand for the ship that make me money. You know what I'm saying like that, It just it just didn't make sense, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

She put the pro tous in the steer with.

Speaker 7

I shot a hundred videos of that motherfucker.

Speaker 5

That's one thing I do every time about I should have a one hundred videos in the motherfucker bitch. Y'all gonna see this motherfucker. Fuck y'all gonna get tired of this bit y'all gonna.

Speaker 7

See this bitch then.

Speaker 5

I ain't even no club niggas, so I don't go to the clubs and ship like that by the time. But I had a car for two years sold the bitch, motherfucker. I mean, some people don't even know you've ever had the bitch like you know what I mean. It's just like, bro, I'm wasting my money bro like that, you know, I mean, I think I think that shit frivolous.

Speaker 7

I won't.

Speaker 5

I want other motherfuckers that's watching this ship to take what we're saying and really run with this ship, you know, what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

What you think it is to make niggas won't all of that ship though.

Speaker 5

Music listening to other rap niggas and you know what I mean, the inter day and women ship like that. You know what I'm saying, Like that, that's what That's what make niggas want this ship. And it all boiled down to one thing, uh, low self esteem, you know what I'm saying, Because I should be able to feel like that nigga without a roads, you know what I mean, And I do now, But at the time of getting I needed to.

Speaker 7

That rose to make me feel validated. I needed some validation. Yeah, I mean, I want it.

Speaker 5

I wanted all my old hoes and yeah, look at me now, you know what I'm saying. But in the end, I was the only one hurt myself. Yeah, the folks married and moved on with life. They don't give a funk about.

Speaker 7

Me having no rose but the worst.

Speaker 5

Exactly like yeah, facts bro like So yeah, I just think, man, niggas gotta stop looking for the wrong at the wrong places for validation.

Speaker 4

What I say, to be validated by invalid people.

Speaker 7

Yeah, by validation.

Speaker 5

I ain't been through nothing, but you usually can tell who ain't who ain't lived like a certain way, who ain't been a certain way? Because because the way they talk, you know what I'm saying. You can listen to a nigga talk, nigga just be too gangst and killing nigga. You ain't shot nobody. Look how you talk. Because the killers that I was in that I knew growing up, they ain't did that. I thought them niggas down there with school teachers, bron different This nigga crazy nigga.

Speaker 3

Why not about no not about no fucking activity.

Speaker 6

Bro.

Speaker 5

These niggas are open my mama truck up and take the groceries in the house. Fact like they just didn't move. And it's just a certain it's a certain way people talk, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

But this ship just different in this era though, with this Internet ship, because everybody now you get validation by being the nigga that's doing it and.

Speaker 7

We know you doing it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

So them niggas will say they're doing it because them the nigga getting the pusson.

Speaker 7

Yeah, if I can't get.

Speaker 2

No wrong wrong, I'm gonna kill him. That's just how this ship goes Bro, this ship fucked up?

Speaker 5

Where the fuck we became as a community where nigga nigga to catch a body to be cool, facts man niggat to kill another black man and be cool. Better to be in ships ship, Wow, Bro, When I was growing up, the niggas that died, Bro, God rest their souls or whatever.

Speaker 7

But respectfully, some of them, you know, they put themselves.

Speaker 4

In that lack of a better way to put it, Like everybody, everybody can see why you deserve that, Like you.

Speaker 7

Shouldn't did shouldn't have did that.

Speaker 4

Yeah, you shouldn't have did that. Other than that, like all this frivolous killer that sh it ain't buy now, but the nigga did some ship. Like even the neighborhood would be like.

Speaker 7

Shit, won't know what happened.

Speaker 2

We don't know what happened because we know what happened, and you know why you shouldn't tell it.

Speaker 6

You know what?

Speaker 5

You know why like that motherfuckers in the neighborhood that the aunties and the uncles and the grandma's and ship, you know how they used to be quiet. You know why they're telling nothing because they like that boy got killed for the motherfucker saying fuck the nigga on Instagram.

Speaker 7

Ye whoever did that?

Speaker 1

I know he did it.

Speaker 5

Fucking where you come Acur, Absolutely yeah, he killed that young man from saying him on the internet.

Speaker 4

And the more than plac behind this ship ain't ain't nothing behind it.

Speaker 7

You know. They used to stand tall for us, the neighbors.

Speaker 4

And all the you know whatever. The boy came over here playing with them boys and.

Speaker 5

Got that's how they used to talk. I swear to God, that's how they used to talk. That boy should have came up and playing with them boys.

Speaker 7

That's how they don't talk like that. Like, man, they killed that boy.

Speaker 8

But I think I think another part about it too, Just like how y'all saying the neighborhood used to protect the neighborhood is because the people that the neighborhood was protecting was making sure the neighborhood was good. They would make sure the grasses got cut, they would make sure they did little stuff for the kids, or you know, sent groceries or you know, food or you know what I'm saying. Whatever, But I don't feel like niggas are

doing that no more. So It's like shit, I don't have nothing to gain by protecting this nigga because he don't do shit for me.

Speaker 4

That niggas too busy in competition with each other.

Speaker 5

Yeah, it is just like bro, niggas gotta be themself bro like man, it's so much ship that I ain't never spoke about or talking about on the internet, and ship that won't get me in trouble, like you know what I'm saying, but just ship that had just really put put it in perspective on who vessel is. I'm MUNTI faceted.

Speaker 7

I'm a lot of things.

Speaker 5

I'm a motivator, I'm from a family man, I'm a street nigga, I'm a business man, I'm a rapper. You know what I'm saying. I'm a lot of things. But it's just it's just the way I was raised. It's just certain ship that I just feel like it don't need to be spoken about. If you know, you know, you know what I'm saying, you know, And I think I think the closest I ever did to that was saying that, you know, I Surrey your favorite rappers, you know what I mean. I felt crazy saying that, but

it is what it is. You know what I'm saying it's them. Niggas know that, like you know one thing about Ice war Vessel or the marriage of artists. Them niggas seen me when I was hustling, knew me when I was trapping, like they knew Vessel from it. They didn't meet Vessel and Vessel signed with QC or when Vessel dropped the song. When Vessel dropped, they knew Vessel and Vessel didn't even tell me niggas that he was a rapper. Like you know what I'm saying, The niggas

seen me. Yeah, I mean they've seen it. It ain't even just about just.

Speaker 7

I ain't but like yeah, I mean, yeah I had.

Speaker 5

I ain't never so like no Crazyr Yeah, but yeah, niggas seen niggas seen it. But but but my point of bringing it up, I don't act that way, you know what I mean. I don't carry myself that way, all right, I don't come off that way. I don't come off like that kind of nigga. I just try to be genuine, you know what I'm saying, to motivate niggas and breathe light into our community and to everybody, because that's the most important.

Speaker 7

You know what I mean?

Speaker 5

I think we alast that way. You know, we just got to get better with each other listening and all that streets dead anyway, Bro.

Speaker 7

Fucked up and.

Speaker 4

She ain't going about five almost ten years. Man, it was still some money in it, but the cold being on that ship is over with.

Speaker 7

Man.

Speaker 3

Ain't no cure that, even getting to watch for the hook.

Speaker 4

Like I'm saying first it was a little money. Shi is dead. It's the niggas who the niggas who solid they got the way because they don't want them. Nigga niggas ain't on the internet. Niggas out the way because I don't want you to. I want you to forget about me.

Speaker 2

I don't want to like telling him. You know what I'm saying, Like niggas is out.

Speaker 7

The way, that's a fact. Like the niggas who really get it, they out the way.

Speaker 4

I been trying to get niggas on the podcast. Niggas like BRN, I love you. I ain't you know what I'm saying, Like I ain't ain't selling that.

Speaker 7

Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10

I ain't.

Speaker 2

No, I ain't any industry.

Speaker 4

Bro, But I just want niggas to give niggas they spill on even though the niggas ain't even street nigga, ain't in the street. The niggas o niggas the way for real niggas are like, Bro, I'm just gonna stay out the nigga way.

Speaker 6

Bro.

Speaker 7

Yeah, I don't even want to bring up then. I don't want to remind you. I don't want Yeah, yeah, I'm just out of the way.

Speaker 4

I respect that to the MAC.

Speaker 7

That's the best way to be.

Speaker 6

Bro.

Speaker 5

This ship is dead, it's awkful. Ain't no coming back. Bro, we shouldn't even want this ship to come back anyway.

Speaker 7

That ship is dead. It's over for ain't no streets, no more, ain't no rules.

Speaker 2

And it was all good.

Speaker 7

Yeah, when it got bad, it got bad. When it got bad, it got real bad.

Speaker 5

You know what I'm saying. We blurred the lines too much. You know, we blurred the lines way too much with the streets and the internet.

Speaker 4

I'm gonna tell you I think it happened before the end, and I'm gonna tell you what I think for the street up. In my opinion, when niggas start making their own definition of everything, to make your own definition of what a real niggas, your own definition of what fake is your own definition of what schnitching is, you know what I'm saying, instead of what the original definition of everything?

Speaker 3

Because he ain't really tell you like that.

Speaker 5

Yeah, when you start making their own definition, you see niggas select the politicket, right niggas. Niggas two niggas do the same thing. But Holmes got a bigger name of homes a nigga that I used to look up. So he got he having dogs ship right now, So we're gonna, we're gonna he ain't do that. He ain't that bad, did Yeah, did the same thing, the same ship that selected politicans.

Speaker 6

Yeah?

Speaker 7

Absolutely.

Speaker 4

And when the rapper became the big homie.

Speaker 7

Man, how the fuck did that happened? Though? That's what fucked it up, when the became a big and a big homy. That is crazy, bro. Remember when the rap niggas used to have big homies.

Speaker 2

I'm biggs.

Speaker 4

I mean we used to laugh like, oh, he rapped, I'll tell you before we even got in the new They're like long long time facts.

Speaker 2

He rapping, you know what I'm saying, Like get.

Speaker 7

Rappers like it was a stem like that nigga. A rapper ain't know nothing.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he ain't talking about that, yeah exactly.

Speaker 4

But when the nigga started the street, niggas start being rappers even though they was young niggas. Like, just say, inctent Vizil, you signed a nigga right now, you've never been a rapper, you O g from from Detroit. You signed a young niggas. When he get on now, he expected you to be his young nigga.

Speaker 7

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, made a couple of.

Speaker 7

Teen million.

Speaker 5

All the young niggas around him love him. Nah, suposed to look at him the same. Why this ship so mother fucking crazy?

Speaker 4

Man?

Speaker 7

Why the rappers became a bit? How the fuck did that happen? Bro? Like, I'm a nigga that had a big homie, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

No, but you gotta blame the old nigga could yeah nigga seventeen you thirty nine till about.

Speaker 7

Deep bro Bro, big Bro, that's why. Yeah, that's why that put a call around for you, big Bro.

Speaker 5

Order order ordered. Like the old gs in my life, Bro, I respect them as such. I treat them as such. I treat them niggas with respect to well respect, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

No matter what them nigga down falling like you could have for all, you could be smoking dope, you could have a jump.

Speaker 7

I still talk like yes, yes, regardless, Yeah, listen.

Speaker 8

Today you didn't do nothing questionable to turn in your image. You just fell off the wagon or.

Speaker 2

You just stopped. Some nig will stop.

Speaker 4

Some niggas jump on, not fall off. Some niggas get off that ship. Like I ain't on that no more.

Speaker 5

But when niggas fell, I realized, like that that's just the action part where the niggas stopped the actions. That don't mean the nigga lost the mindset. Thank you know what I'm saying. The wisdom is there, the mind is there.

You know what I'm saying, Like you know what I You know what I realized when I was when I was in prison too, right, I seen it was certain niggas like you know where there was a white boy, black boy, Italian, Mexican whatever the fuck I ain't know it wasn't none of the Italians getting bullied on and nothing. But just this period though, you know what I'm saying, When I knew because because you know out the gate, who are who are Chomo?

Speaker 7

You know who are ship?

Speaker 4

Like that?

Speaker 5

But when I seen niggas that wasn't like that lightweight get soft pressed or just little ship.

Speaker 7

Going on, just happening.

Speaker 5

Niggas try and beat on the nigga all that type of ship, right, Something I told myself, I say, brou So, this's we in the fist, we in prison. So obviously, buddy, not here for being a strong nigga physically in the streets or or in the world. That man here for being strong mentally. And my child was to figure out what that strength was and how can I learn from that strength because I knew it wasn't nothing physical. I

knew it was something mental. And I learned a lot of ship from them people, bro a lot of ship, like a lot of game about business.

Speaker 3

You know a lot of games from the quote unquote lames.

Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah on me and I got out and became walk time millionaire from from everything I learned from them people.

Speaker 7

That's the niggas that niggas want to talk to exactly. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

You don't never know where that message who the mess cook like nigga will be like, come on, bank, I was sitting to talk to a fucking nigga, would have would have got damn with the cans in a bad for ten minutes thirty minute, like bank man, come on, bro, we gotta go.

Speaker 2

Well, I don't know what God might be telling the niggas. I don't know what y'all niggas, go ahead, he don't call my attention.

Speaker 8

I fa hear him out and guys disguise, bro, That's how that shit goes, Like like you never know what kind of packaging your purpose, your purposeful message is gonna come from.

Speaker 3

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8

So you that's why I like, it's like with me, I don't know about nobody else, but with me personally, like I take it like upon myself to make sure with a passion that I never like shit on anybody, or like I never look at anybody or judge nobody no kind of way because of their outward appearance or you know what I'm saying, no shit like that, because at the end of the day, like most people that are the purest, most genuine, most powerful people might not

necessarily have the best exterior, and at the end of the day, it's just like outside of that, who the fuck am I to look at somebody different because they look different?

Speaker 5

You get what I'm saying, Like, yeah, that should be lame, Like niggas might lose the exterior, but everybody don't lose exactly.

Speaker 7

Repo right now, Does that means you stop, you forget how to drive?

Speaker 1

No, you gotta get.

Speaker 7

Drive. Got this car saying? So you listen to everybody, you learn from everybody.

Speaker 4

One more thing, Man, what would you tell yourself when you first jumped in the game that you know nothing?

Speaker 7

Like you go back into your life.

Speaker 5

Man, the same thing for earlier. Bro, Fuck the streets, fuck that money, fuck that ship, stick to music because one thing you know. Again, Like I say, everything happened for a reason and God's timing be perfect. But one thing we can't get back is time. You know what I'm saying. So I think God gave me free will to disagree with some things.

Speaker 7

You know what I mean. I think I think out of out turned up way way way way earlier.

Speaker 5

If I just let that ship go, f I just let it go, and I would tell myself that, yeah, it's a journey for the show.

Speaker 7

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

I'd have told myself to choose choose one right now, you know, ain't no, ain't no in between. It ain't no great area. Don't nobody make it out that ship, you know what I'm saying. So I got Blessed March seven. What we're doing, man, it's on the flow man, Undefeated the EP March seventh. I just having fun with this motherfucker for real. Bro, Just you know what I mean, Just popping my ship on that bitch. Just talking ship, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, that's what it is, Undefeated.

Shout out to my big homie j Look rest in peace.

Speaker 7

Man. Oh gee, man, Nigga, I missed, Nigga. I love before we go, Bro.

Speaker 5

Want to tell I want to tell the people that's watching this, bro, and this this for his family, you know what I'm saying. Because I don't know how they how they feel about me. I know how his wife and his kids feel about me, and I love them, you know. But I want you all to know that was the hardest thing I ever had to do in my life to have to go upstairs just to wake up in the morning. I have to walk upstairs in my kids room and wake that man daughter to tell

her daddy gone. That was the hardest ship I ever had to do, you know. What I'm saying. I just want y'all to know I'm talking to y'all.

Speaker 7

I love y'all. With y'all. My number is still the same, and you know it is what it is. I'm here, I'm always gonna be here. Long live j Lo, you heard so. Yeah, long livedut Day.

Speaker 1

But I love you to death. As Big Facts, another classic, man we appreciate you, man.

Speaker 7

Yeah, don't forget March seventh, undefeated. Let's get it.

Speaker 1

Big Facts.

Speaker 7

On the street. It's big Facts. Capt Bitch,

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