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Beyond the Scope

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Beyond The Scope, a new podcast by the Digital Pathology Association, focuses on hot topics in digital pathology. Co-hosts Dr. Giovanni Lujan (OSUWMC) and Dr. David Tulman (Instapath) converse with key opinion leaders in an engaging format discussing all of the new research, technology, and workflows emerging in digital pathology. Beyond The Scope aims to cover specific topics ranging from artificial intelligence to computational pathology, whole slide imaging to in/ex-vivo microscopy, regulation and commercialization, and more! For more information on the DPA, please visit https://digitalpathologyassociation.org/.

Episodes

Doc de Baca, CAP Chair of CIPI

Send us a text Dr. Doc de Baca is a hematopathologist and current CAP Chair of the Council on Informatics and Pathology Innovation. In this episode of Beyond the Scope, Dr. de Baca shares her unique journey through various medical specialties and her current role in pathology informatics. The conversation explores the importance of digital pathology, the challenges of innovation and regulation, and the role of CIPI in shaping the future of pathology. Dr. de Baca emphasizes the need for pathologi...

May 16, 202551 minSeason 5Ep. 7

Sang Wu, CAP Speaker of the House

Send us a text Dr. Sang Wu is a pathologist at Baylor, Scott & White (Irving, TX) and currently serves as Speaker of the House of Delegates for the College of American Pathologists. The episode focuses on the governance structure of the CAP and the responsibilities carried by each delegate. Dr. Wu previews the upcoming leadership summit in Washington DC April 27, 2025. Finally, Alae joins Giovanni and Dr. Wu for a discussion covering pathologists' perspectives on the future of DP/AI. A ...

Apr 24, 202552 minSeason 5Ep. 6

Anil Parwani (Live from PV24)

Send us a text Anil Parwani is a past DPA President and trailblazer for digital pathology. He currently serves as Chair of the Department of Pathology and the Chief of Pathology Services for The Ohio State University Medical Center. Alae Kawam interviews Dr. Parwani at PV24, live from Orlando, FL, covering recruitment for the future of pathology, advice on handling burnout, and advice for new digital pathology adopters. A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on th...

Apr 01, 202513 minSeason 5Ep. 5

DPA Past Presidents

Send us a text Live from Pathology Visions 2024 in Orlando, FL, the Beyond the Scope team interviews past Presidents of the DPA who were in attendance. Guests include: Eric Glassy (2017) Marilyn Bui (2019) Michael Rivers (2020) Anil Parwani (2021) Ester Abels (2022) Liron Pantanowitz (2023) Junya Fukuoka (Current - 2025) Each President answers questions about the current state of Digital Pathology, what DP/AI looks like in 10 years, how DP/AI can impact healthcare, and how to implement in the co...

Mar 03, 202530 minSeason 5Ep. 4

Aleks Zuraw, Digital Pathology Place

Send us a text Live from PV24 in Orlando, FL, Alae Kawam interviews Dr. Aleks Zuraw. Aleks is a veterinary pathologist and founder of Digital Pathology Place, a website and podcast dedicated to all of the hot topics in digital pathology. Topics of discussion include reflections on PV24, practical applications of digital pathology, and the correlation between radiology and pathology transformation to digital. This episode is produced by David Remedios. A forum to engage with the hosts and other l...

Jan 29, 202516 minSeason 5Ep. 3

Bilal Ahmad, Spectrum Healthcare Partners

Send us a text Live from Pathology Visions 2024 in Orlando, FL, Alae Kawam interviews Dr. Bilal Ahmad. Dr. Ahmad is a Pathologist at Spectrum Healthcare Partners in Maine. He joins Beyond The Scope to discuss challenges of running a physician owned practice and how digital pathology helps with workflow and employee retention. This episode is produced by Quincy Gu. A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org . DPA m...

Jan 08, 202512 minSeason 5Ep. 2

Don Karcher, CAP President

Send us a text We kick off season 5 of Beyond the Scope with a special series of episodes featuring interviews from Pathology Visions 2024, live from Orlando. FL. Giovanni interviews Dr. Don Karcher, a hematopathologist at George Washington University. Dr. Karcher is the CAP President and gives his perspective on integration of digital pathology and artificial intelligence, governance, and the future of pathology. A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA ...

Jan 06, 202512 minSeason 5Ep. 1

Michael Quick, 2024 DPA President

Send us a text Michael Quick is a cytologost currently serving as the VP of R&D and Innovation for Cytology and Oncology at Hologic and the 2024 DPA President. Mike shares his background as a cytologist and how it led to a career focused on innovation in the digital pathology industry. Hologic has grown into the digital pathology and laboratory industry, and we discuss motivations for expansion of a large company into new areas of medicine. Finally, we feature an interview from Pathology Vis...

Dec 19, 202421 minSeason 4Ep. 9

Andy Beck, CEO PathAI

Send us a text Andy Beck MD PhD is the CEO of PathAI. He joins Beyond The Scope to discuss his background as a pathologist and biomedical informaticist while sharing his journey through the rapidly changing digital pathology landscape. Key topics include motivations for starting a company, real-world feedback from DP/AI users, and challenges for developing AI-powered technology. Finally, Dr. Beck shares the story behind PathAI partnering with Quest and Roche diagnostics. A forum to engage with t...

Dec 02, 202457 minSeason 4Ep. 8

Chris Garcia, Mayo Clinic

Send us a text Dr. Chris Garcia is a pathologist and serves as the Medical Director in the division of computational pathology and artificial intelligence at the Mayo Clinic. He joins the show for a broad reaching conversation about the current state of digital pathology and what the future holds for the industry. Dr. Garcia shares his journey from academia and industry and how his experience led to a career focused on pathology informatics. We touch on the challenges for a large organization li...

Sep 14, 202455 minSeason 4Ep. 7

Catarina Eloy, IPATIMUP

Send us a text Catarina Eloy MD, PhD is a pathologist and Director of The Institute of Molecular Pathology and Immunology of the University of Porto (IPATIMUP). She joins BTS to discuss the transformation of IPATIMUP to a fully integrated digital pathology laboratory and how new technology is improving diagnostic efficiency and patient treatment outcomes in Portugal. Additional topics include AI initiatives for pathology and advice on how to get started going digital. A forum to engage with the ...

Aug 06, 202434 minSeason 4Ep. 6

LDT UPDATE W/STACI KEARNEY (ELEVATION STRATEGIC CONSULTING)

Send us a text Staci Kearney PhD is the founder and CEO of Elevation Strategic Consulting, a firm that provides regulatory assistance to digital pathology companies. In May 2024, The FDA ruled that Laboratory Developed Tests (LDTs) will be regulated as medical devices with FDA oversight in the coming years. Staci joins for a special episode to break down the timeline for vendors to be compliant with the new rule and implications for digital pathology companies and laboratories. Laboratory Develo...

Jun 17, 202448 minSeason 4Ep. 5

MUHAMMAD ASLAM, NORTH WALES DIAGNOSTIC & SPECIALIST CLINICAL SERVICES

Send us a text Dr. Muhammad Aslam is a consultant pathologist and Clinical Director for North Wales Diagnostic and Specialist Clinical Services. He joins Beyond the Scope to discuss the success of pathology digitization in his region of Wales and the current state of affairs of digital pathology adoption in the UK as a whole. The primary discussion revolves around all of the advantages digital pathology technologies are actively providing to pathologists and other specialties in Wales. Finally, ...

May 30, 202445 minSeason 4Ep. 4

SYLVIA ASA, UNIVERSITY HOSPITALS CLEVELAND

Send us a text Sylvia Asa is an endocrine pathologist leading University Hospitals in Cleveland, OH into the era of digital pathology. Previously, Dr. Asa was the Head of Pathology at Canada's largest hospital network, where she successfully built a digital pathology workflow. Dr. Asa joins Beyond The Scope to reflect on 20 years of working with digital pathology. Key discussion points include interoperability, surprising technologies, and the patient-pathologist relationship. A forum to en...

Mar 25, 202431 minSeason 4Ep. 3

DAVID WEST, PROSCIA

Send us a text David West is a computational biologist, entrepreneur, and co-founder of Proscia. Proscia is a company advancing data-driven pathology with its Concentriq platform and computational solutions. David joins this episode live from Orlando to discuss how the digital pathology market has changed in the last 5 years. Next, he shares insight on scaling up and hiring in digital pathology. Finally, David speculates what the next wave of innovations will bring to pathology. A forum to engag...

Feb 16, 202435 minSeason 4Ep. 2

JOHN GROTH, NORTHSHORE UNIVERSITY HEALTHSYSTEM

Send us a text John Groth is a pathologist at NorthShore University HealthSystem in greater Chicago, IL. He joins the show to discuss in great detail his recent experience leading NorthShore going digital. All elements of the transition are covered, including value propositions to patients and administrators, team building, vendor selection, training, and implementation. A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org ...

Dec 11, 20231 hr 7 minSeason 3Ep. 12

LIRON PANTANOWITZ, DPA PRESIDENT

Send us a text Liron Pantanowitz is the 2023 President of the DPA and Chair of Pathology at UPMC. This episode is a preview of the DPA Pathology Visions Conference which will be held in Orlando October 29-31. Registration, agenda, and more information can be found here . A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org . DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under the Resources tab) and join the Beyond The S...

Oct 18, 202321 minSeason 3Ep. 11

EMILY VOLK, CAP PRESIDENT

Send us a text Dr. Emily Volk is a pathologist at the University of Louisville and has served as the President of The College of American Pathologists from 2021-2023. She joins the show to discuss balancing her journey as a pathologist, administrator, and CAP governor with family life. This episode features a behind the scenes look at some of the political issues facing CAP including Dobbs vs. Jackson and the VALID act. Finally, Emily shares her views on the future of pathology. A forum to engag...

Oct 10, 202354 minSeason 3Ep. 10

RAJENDRA SINGH, SUMMIT HEALTH

Send us a text Dr. Raj Singh is the Director of Dermatopathology and the Director of Digital Pathology at Summit Health. He joins BTS for an episode themed around sharing digital pathology images. As one of the founders of Path Presenter, he discusses building a viewing platform for educational, clinical, and research purposes. This episode includes a tutorial on the Digital Anatomic Pathology Academy (DAPA), a free educational tool hosted on the DPA website for members and trainees. Finally, th...

Sep 11, 202353 minSeason 3Ep. 9

MIKE ISAACS, WASHU PATHOLOGY

Send us a text Mike Isaacs is the Director of Clinical informatics and Business Development at Washington University in the Department of Pathology and Immunology. He has a computer science background and over 25 years of experience in supporting Information Technology in the laboratory. Mike joins the show to discuss focusing the last 10 plus years in digital pathology, specifically developing multiple digital workflows to take advantage of technology in the laboratory. This episode contains vi...

Aug 02, 202331 minSeason 3Ep. 8

MARTIN STUART, MIKROSCAN

Send us a text Dr. Stuart is the CEO of Mikroscan, a company making telemicroscopy systems. He joins the show to discuss the past, present, and future of digital pathology. From the lens of his experience leading companies through the digital transformation in radiology and pathology, he shares insight on challenges facing adoption. This episode includes stories from the early days of digital pathology and the DPA as well as recent initiatives in the industry. A forum to engage with the hosts an...

Jun 15, 202345 minSeason 3Ep. 7

Ehab El-Gabry, Akoya Biosciences

Send us a text Dr. Ehab El-Gabry is the Chief Medical Officer at Akoya Biosciences. He joins the show to discuss spatial biology and multiplexing technology applications for pharmaceutical research and pathology. Additional topics include biotechnology executive career talk and some history behind PDL1 development. A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org . DPA members may login to the DPA Collaborate hub (under...

May 31, 202353 minSeason 3Ep. 6

Aleksandra Zuraw, DVM, PhD | Digital Pathology Place

Send us a text Giovanni and David are joined by Aleksandra Zuraw DVM, a fellow podcaster and founder of www.digitalpathologyplace.com , to discuss a few hot topics in digital pathology. Topics covered in this episode include Ai adoption in pathology, ChatGPT corollaries to AI for pathology, automating slide scanning, and a real world update on the use of the new trial digital pathology CPT codes. A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digita...

May 11, 202344 minSeason 3Ep. 5

Harrison Dai | Eastern Virginia Medical School

Send us a text Harrison Dai, a 3rd year Medical Student from EVMS, joins Beyond The Scope to discuss his interest in pathology residency and journey through medical school. The topics covered include pathology recruitment strategies, The Match updates, recent changes to USMLE step exams, and optimism for digital pathology in residency programs. A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org . DPA members may login to ...

Apr 11, 202346 minSeason 3Ep. 4

Christoph Guetter, PhD | Roche

Send us a text Dr. Christoph Guetter is a computer scientist and a Director of Algorithm Development at Roche Diagnostics. He joins the show to introduce some of the fundamentals of machine learning algorithm development from an industry perspective. Topics include choosing a project, defining high quality data input, and milestones for completed algorithms. A forum to engage with the hosts and other listeners has been launched on the DPA website www.digitalpathologyassociation.org . DPA members...

Mar 09, 202350 minSeason 3Ep. 3

Lisa-Jean Clifford | Gestalt Diagnostics

Send us a text Lisa-Jean Clifford is the COO and Chief Strategy Officer at Gestalt Diagnostics. She joins the show to discuss the challenges and successes of marketing new products in the digital pathology space. From previous executive experience in the LIS space, she presents some of the parallels between pathology and radiology's digital transformation. Finally, LJ reflects on her recent appointment as Secretary for the governing council of the API. A forum to engage with the hosts and o...

Feb 06, 202327 minSeason 3Ep. 2

Lakshman Ramamurthy, PhD | GSK

Send us a text Dr. Lakshman Ramamurthy is the Head of Precision Medicine & Digital Health Global Regulatory at GSK. He joins Beyond the Scope to discuss his journey through academia, regulatory and reimbursement affairs, consulting, and industry. As someone who works with emerging diagnostics in big pharma, Dr. Ramamurthy shares his thoughts on digital pathology and artificial intelligence as a tool for clinical trials and discusses the need for more guidance on Good Machine Learning Practic...

Jan 26, 202355 minSeason 3Ep. 1

Zaibo Li, MD, PhD | OSUWMC Pathology

Send us a text Dr. Zaibo Li is a pathologist at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center, where he also serves as the Associate Director of Digital Pathology. Dr. Li has taken the leap to become a true digital pathologist and joins the show to discuss his journey to fully embrace digital pathology, sharing valuable advice to others also considering the leap. Dr. Li highlights practical benefits of digital pathology, featuring international consultations, resident training, ergonomic impro...

Dec 20, 202236 minSeason 2Ep. 14

Savitri Krishnamurthy, MD | MD Anderson

Send us a text Savitri Krishnamturthy is a Professor of Pathology at MD Anderson, specializing in breast pathology and cytopathology. Dr. Krishnamurthy joines Beyond the Scope live from Las Vegas to discuss her work in emerging microscopy technologies for real-time pathology evaluations. As a member of the CAP In Vivo Microscopy Committee, she speaks on the initiatives to get new billing codes for new microscopy technologies. Additionally, Dr. Krishnamurthy shares her thoughts on training the ne...

Dec 16, 202214 minSeason 2Ep. 13

CPT Coding and Digital Pathology Reimbursement (Live from #PathVisions22)

Send us a text Dr. Jon Myles (Cleveland Clinic Pathologist, CAP Governor, and Chair of the Council on Government and Professional Affairs) joins BTS to explain the essentials regarding CPT codes. With the recent proposal for new CPT codes covering services using digital pathology technology, Dr. Myles provides an update on the current efforts and timeline for when the new codes may be officially adopted by CMS. This episode is moderated by Giovanni and Dr. Joe Sirintrapun (MSKCC), featuring indu...

Nov 04, 202228 minSeason 2Ep. 12
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