In this episode, I set out the commercial reality many UK employers are still avoiding: EU pay transparency is not a future compliance exercise only for companies in the EU. Pay has shifted from a private management decision to a public, evidence-based issue and organisations no longer control when, where, or how pay decisions are scrutinised. Even those outside of the EU. I explain why doing nothing is not neutral. Inaction hands control of the pay narrative to employees, social media, AI tools...
Feb 11, 2026•29 min•Season 3Ep. 24
Investors are now scrutinising ESG S scores more than ever — and gender pay gap data and actions are playing a central role in their decision-making. In this episode, we explore how ESG reporting, social metrics, and workforce equality initiatives are influencing investment decisions and what HR and corporate leaders need to know to stay ahead. We cover: How ESG S metrics, including pay gap reporting, affect investor confidence Why pay equity actions are becoming critical for ESG compliance Step...
Jul 23, 2025•19 min•Season 3Ep. 23
Today I explain why publishing a pay gap report is only the beginning — not the end — of the work. I talk you through exactly what your board will want to see next: a clear narrative, a focused and costed action plan and visible leadership accountability. Tune in to discover practical ways to present your data in a way that drives real change. In this episode, I discuss: Why pay gap reporting is just the starting point , and what boards really want to know. How to move beyond the data with a foc...
Jun 26, 2025•15 min•Season 3Ep. 22
In this insightful episode, I spoke with Sarah Stanton, Chief People Officer at National Gas, to explore their journey in addressing gender and ethnicity pay gaps. Sarah shares practical strategies, challenges, and successes in fostering diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) within a traditionally male-dominated industry. From recruitment tactics to retention programs, this conversation uncovers the realities of driving systemic change in the workplace. Best Quotes On Recruitment: " Women tend ...
Apr 22, 2025•41 min•Season 3Ep. 21
In this case study episode, I shares how one of my clients successfully reduced their pay gap by 14.9% in three years. ------------------------------------ Quote Highlight: "Real change happens when policies align with the company's values, and actions back them up." ---------------------------------------- Need 1:1 support? Book a free call Sign up to get weekly pay gap updates: Newsletter...
Oct 07, 2024•15 min•Season 3Ep. 20
Today we are focusing on what employers get wrong about true success when it comes to closing the pay gap. Success is not just about meeting legal requirements for reporting pay gaps, or even closing your pay gap. Success should be about making positive impact, creating sustainable actions and having relevant to you success measures. If your pay gap success is not measured by these things, then this podcast episode is for you. --------------------- Quote Highlight "Success in pay gap reduction ...
Sep 30, 2024•14 min•Season 3Ep. 19
Today we're discussing the biggest mistake I see organisations make in their pay gap action plans. It's focusing on the metric of lowering your pay gap figure. It is one of the biggest misconceptions that feed into so many pay gap myths. Tune it to find out why this is a mistake and what to do instead. ---------------- Need 1:1 support? Book a free consultancy call Sign up to get weekly pay gap updates: Newsletter...
Sep 23, 2024•14 min•Season 3Ep. 18
In this episode, our guest is Susan Grayson, an expert in creating inclusive workplaces, especially for women experiencing menopause. Together we discuss: The challenges women face in the workplace due to menopause and how this impacts the gender pay gap How menopause is often overlooked as a factor affecting women's career progression. How organisations can addres these issues through supportive policies to retain talented women. Quote Highlight: "Employers need to understand that creating an i...
Sep 16, 2024•34 min•Season 3Ep. 17
In this episode, we are pleased to have Aurélien Joly, the Communication Manager for the Equal Salary Foundation. Aurélien discusses the foundation's work in certifying companies for equal pay. Together we discuss:The audit process and must meet specific criteria to achieve certification The positive impact certified companies often see after certiciation The strategic importance of equal pay certification for organisational resilience, talent retention, and legal preparedness, particularly in l...
Jul 21, 2024•32 min•Season 3Ep. 16
Today Michelle Gyimah is interviewing Sharna Matson Knight from Cadent Gas Limited. Sharna shares her experiences and insights as the Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion (EDI) Manager, discussing Cadent's gender pay gap, the initiatives they have implemented, and the journey towards creating an inclusive workplace. In this episode we discuss: How Cadent Gas gender pay gap has fluctuated due to organisational changes The importance of transparency and providing a narrative to drive change How employ...
Jul 14, 2024•37 min•Season 3Ep. 15
Today, host Michelle Gyimah interviews Sarah Clark, the Decarbonisation Delivery Manager for Europe, Middle East & Africa and co-chair of the AXIS Network, a gender equity group supporting the energy transition in the UK. Throughout her career, Sarah has held a variety of process engineering and project management positions in the UK and Poland, which includes design, offshore and site-based roles, as well as corporate consulting positions within O&G and military sectors. Sarah is passio...
Jul 08, 2024•41 min•Season 3Ep. 14
Today I'm sharing with you the most common mistakes I see organisations make with their pay gap action plans. For those of you in HR who want to avoid these mistakes or find ways to fix these mistakes, this episode is for you. --------------------------------- Need 1:1 support? Book a free consultancy call: Book Michelle Gyimah Sign up to get weekly pay gap updates: Newsletter...
Jun 30, 2024•19 min•Season 3Ep. 13
Today we are exploring how HR teams can close their pay gaps internally with no help from consultants. Why? Because it is possible, IF you know what to do. So, if you are an employer looking for steps on how to address your pay gap internally, tune in to this episode to understand the best way to do this. ----------------- Best podcast quote: "Ultimately, it's great for you to work on your pay gap plan internally, but you do have to be clear on the effort that is required. And the effort comes i...
Apr 21, 2024•20 min•Season 3Ep. 12
Today we are exploring how to measure pay gap impact and maximise its effectiveness. I will go through how HR can get the most out of your pay gaps plan by focusing on: Accountability, responsibility and implementation Creating success metrics to track data analysis better How to effectively communicate your organisation's pay gap goals, progress, and challenges. Best podcast quote "You have to work the pay gap plan, there are going to be some areas that are easier than others for you. But all o...
Apr 15, 2024•15 min•Season 3Ep. 11
If you know that you need pay gaps help, how do you choose the right consultancy? Well this is what we'll be discussing in today's episode. I've spoken to countless HR leaders who have waited 6-18 months to work with me because of their fear of the unknown and investment concerns. If this sounds like you, this episode will help you tackle these issues so that you can make the right decision for your organisation. In this episode I go through five questions you should be asking as well as what an...
Mar 24, 2024•23 min•Season 3Ep. 10
It's not an easy decision to hire in a pay gaps consultancy to help you out. When I work with clients, I understand the challenges and concerns that organisations have. I'm also accutely aware that a big fear is that hiring a consultant will be a big mistake. So in todays episode, I share three key challenges and fears that I see HR leaders grappling with and how to minimise them when deciding if you should hire a pay gaps consultancy. ----------------------------------------------- Best podcast...
Mar 17, 2024•25 min•Season 3Ep. 9
Should you get your pay gap data verified? Well the answer all depends on why you want to and what you hope to gain from it. Given that unverified pay gap data could ruin your credibility it may be worth getting it audited. In this episode I'll share the benfits of getting your data verified and some bonus tips on how to get the most out of your pay gap data audit. ----------------------------------------------- 'Own your pay gap narrative' webinar Sign up to join us on 12th March here: Equality...
Mar 10, 2024•20 min•Season 3Ep. 8
Today I'm lifting the lid on the top three mistakes I see organisations making in their gender pay gap reports. Knowing these top mistakes will help you not only to write better reports, but also to create better pay gap strategies. ------------------------------------------- 'Own your pay gap narrative' webinar Sign up to join us on 12th March here: Equality Pays (vipmembervault.com) Best podcast quote "I read their gender pay gap report and I was underwhelmed. But now I've read this EDI policy...
Mar 03, 2024•20 min•Season 3Ep. 7
Today we are talking about the gender pay gap bot. When it first appeared on X (then known as Twitter) back in 2021 on International Womens Day it would respond to organisations social media announcement by simply retweeting it's gender pay gap data. This gained a lot of interest and responses from the public. Many organisations didn't know how to handle being put on the spot with their pay gap data. Some organisations responded defensively or removed their tweets to avoid backlash. I'll be sha...
Feb 25, 2024•27 min•Season 3Ep. 6
What should you do if your pay gap is stagnating or even rising? Many organisations panic and start looking for quick fixes - many of which can make things worse. Today I'm going to share my three top tips of what to do instead to get better results. -------------------------------------- Enjoyed this? Listen to these episodes too: The pay gap and internal communication The gender pay gap & equal pay at work ----------- Need 1:1 support? Book a free consultancy call: Book Michelle Gyimah...
Feb 18, 2024•23 min•Season 3Ep. 5
Today we're discussing gender pay gap results and how to decide what success looks like. So many organisations only focus on the reduction of pay gap figure as the only and/or most important success factor. But it;s not. I'll share with you different ways my previous clients have measured pay gap success. Some of these 'alternative' success measures are often what organisations need to do more of, rather than obsessing over percentage point reductions. --------------------------------------- Bes...
Feb 11, 2024•22 min•Season 1Ep. 4
This week we are talking about the problem with chasing quick gender pay gap fixes. HR leaders often find themselves under pressure to demonstrate pay gap progress, often with little or no support. This leads to you trying to find quick fixes that make your pay gap statistics look good, but don't bring long-term change. I share the most common quick fixes I've seen organisations choose and how they often damage organisational culture and brand reputation in the long run. ------------------------...
Feb 04, 2024•19 min•Season 3Ep. 3
Today we are talking about how organisations miss the mark by focusing on just closing their pay gap figure. I'll share the pitfalls of just focusing on pay gap statistics and what you should be doing instead. I'll also share examples from previous clients on how I helped them to avoid this big mistake. Book a consultancy call: Book Michelle Gyimah Enjoyed this? Listen to these episodes next: Gender pay gap reporting: What poor statistics mean for employers - Episode #1 How employers can proacti...
Jan 28, 2024•26 min•Season 1Ep. 2
This week we're talking about how employers should respond to poor gender pay gap statistics, This is of particular importance if you are worried about reputational damage and boycotts. We'll also cover how you should communicate your pay gap results to your employees so that they understand them and believe that your action plans are credible. 'Own your pay gap narrative' webinar Sign up to join us on 31st January here: Equality Pays (vipmembervault.com) Best podcast quote "You can't stop being...
Jan 21, 2024•20 min•Season 1Ep. 1
