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Between The Sheets

Kris Zellner & David Bixenspanredcircle.com

Every Monday, Kris Zellner and David Bixenspan go over how a given week in professional wrestling history was covered by the wrestling media, primarily in the "dirt sheet" newsletters. The deepest dive into wrestling history that you can find.

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Episodes

Ep. #435: December 6-14, 1990

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the week that was December 6-14, 1990. Topics of discussion include: The state of the search for a new booker in WCW, with Dusty Rhodes seemingly being the lead candidate or maybe already secretly having the job. Barry Windham taking control of the dressing room at the TV tapings and how barely anyone caught on to what was likely going on with him serving as Dusty’s proxy. Lots of debuts in WCW at the TV tapings, including Konnan, Larry Cameron, Steve D...

Dec 11, 20234 hr 15 min

Ep. #434: November 29-December 5, 2004 with TARO (Part 2)

Kris and David are joined by Kevin Lyon a.k.a.TARO ( @loknloll ) to discuss the week that was November 29-December 5, 2004. Topics of discussion in Part 2 include: Konnan returning to AAA for their Guerra de Titanes show which does mega business. CM Punk and Samoa Joe headlining a very interesting ROH show at the RexPlex. The final show from the original Revolution Pro Wrestling in southern California, with lots of stories from Kevin about why it happened, as well as from the show itself. Paul H...

Dec 04, 20234 hr 55 min

Ep. #434: November 29-December 5, 2004 with TARO (Part 1)

Kris and David are joined by Kevin Lyon a.k.a.TARO ( @loknloll ) to discuss the week that was November 29-December 5, 2004. Topics of discussion in Part 1 include: The uncertainty of TNA's existence as there were major problems mounting behind the scenes. An in-depth rundown of TNA's "Turning Point" PPV which, despite the turmoil behind the scenes, was one of the best in-ring PPV's of the era, featuring America's Most Wanted vs. XXX in one of the greatest matches in company history. AJPW's Real ...

Dec 04, 20232 hr 23 min

Ep. #433: November 22-28, 1989

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the week that was November 22-28, 1989. Topics of discussion include: The state of wrestling on Thanksgiving Day and how much it had changed in the back half of the 1980's. Ric Flair officially becoming the chairman of the WCW booking committee and why that was a bad thing for him. The Midnight Express “refusing to wrestle” on TBS. Ric Flair and The Great Muta having a big main event on World Championship Wrestling on the same show where Kevin Sullivan ...

Nov 27, 20236 hr 27 min

Ep. #432: November 15-21, 1998

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the week that was November 15-21, 1998, a week that was requested by William Lanham with a $25 pledge on our Patreon. Topics of discussion include: A full rundown of Survivor Series 1998: Deadly Game featuring The Rock and Shane McMahon turning heel as part of the tournament that crowned Rock as the new WWF Champion. Vince McMahon and Steve Austin's real life relationship possibly being on the rocks. A wild Raw featuring a cameo from Judge Mills Lane as...

Nov 20, 20236 hr 15 min

Ep. #431: November 8-14, 2000

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the week that was November 8-14, 2000. Topics of discussion include: Updates on the status of the potential sale of WCW and how Jerry Jarrett is possibly playing a role in it. An interesting episode of Thunder featuring the infamous segment where Lenita Erickson interviews Bob Sapp. A wacky Nitro from London, England. The saga of Peter Goldschmidt and Robert Catell, which you have to hear to believe. Shinya Hashimoto getting "fired" by New Japan. Tons o...

Nov 13, 20235 hr 54 min

Ep. #430: November 1-7, 1987

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the week that was November 1-7, 1987. Topics of discussion include: Strike Force winning the WWF Tag Team Titles from The Hart Foundation on the first Superstars of Wrestling of November Sweeps. Billy Jack Haynes passing out at the Nassau Coliseum. Ivan Putski getting screwed by a Pennsylvania State Athletic Commission referee at the Spectrum in Philly. Genichiro Tenryu and Hiroshi Wajima having their first singles battle. Horny Ed Whalen eyeballing Mis...

Nov 06, 20234 hr

2023 Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame Special

With this year's rule changes and neither Kris or David having done any podcasts about the 2023 Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame ballot, we decided to do this one! We go over everyone on the ballot and weigh their candidacies in varying levels of detail, including who we think are no-brainers. Enjoy! To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron....

Oct 31, 20233 hr 18 min

Ep. #429: October 25-31, 1984 with Robert O'Connor

Kris and David are joined by Robert O'Connor ( @ghostofquinones ) to discuss the week that was October 25-31, 1984. Topics of discussion include: World Class running their first ever Cotton Bowl show featuring the return of Sunshine, Chris Adams cementing his heel turn on Kevin Von Erich, and lots more. World Class ramping up the use of blood for the first time since the promotion started booming, which could be causing problems at the gate. A wild and wacky group of foreigners on tour with All ...

Oct 30, 20236 hr 46 min

Ep. #428: October 18-23, 2001

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the (almost-)week that was October 18-23, 2001, a Patreon pick requested by Brian Peterson, who threw down the $25 to select this week. Topics of discussion include: The state of wrestling as the WWF is trending downward across multiple business metrics. The tragic end of Hayabusa's career and how it changed Japanese wrestling forever. Keiji Muto winning yet another AJPW belt as he is getting more comfortable there. Major problems within Team 2000 in Ne...

Oct 23, 20236 hr 35 min

Ep. #427: October 12-17, 1996

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the (almost-)week was October 12-17, 1996. Topics of discussion include: Bret Hart making the final decision about his future and talks about it in his Calgary Sun column. Uncertainty about Curt Hennig's in-ring future. Vader's match for his second episode of Boy Meets World being taped at an Anaheim house show. Crush having an issue with a "fan" who may or may not be a future world champion. “The Real Double J” Jesse Jammess talking about his singing b...

Oct 16, 20234 hr 47 min

Ep. #426: October 4-10, 1998 with Dr. Keith Lipinski

Kris and David are joined by Dr. Keith Lipinski ( @KeithLipinski ) to discuss the week that was October 4-10, 1998. Topics of discussion include: How the peak popularity of the Monday Night War are adversely affecting the Nielsen ratings of Monday Night Football. Brian Hildebrand getting the worst possible news about his health and how he planned to deal with it. One of the absolute wildest episodes of WCW Monday Nitro that ever aired on TNT, featuring the birth of the Latino World Order, Judy B...

Oct 09, 20235 hr 54 min

Ep. #425: September 27-October 2, 1991

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the week that was September 27-October 2, 1991. Topics of discussion include: Hulk Hogan giving quite the interview to the St. Petersburg Times on his “Suburban Commando” media tour, where he talks about steroid use and other interesting topics. The WWF adding a new PPV the week after Survivor Series and changing their road schedule as a well to help ease their financial problems. Sgt. Slaughter wanting his country back. Vince McMahon getting nailed wit...

Oct 02, 20235 hr 3 min

Ep. #424: September 20-24, 1992

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the (almost-)week that was September 20-24, 1992, a Patron-requested show. Matthew Finnie laid down the $25 on our Patreon page for this week because he was at some of the WWF TV tapings in Manitoba, and you can pick your own week by doing the same thing. Topics of discussion include: The state of the cable TV wrestling ratings and house show attendance, which were both hitting all-time lows around this time. “Cowboy” Bill Watts speaking very candidly t...

Sep 25, 20233 hr 30 min

Ep. #423: September 13-18, 1987

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the (almost-)week of September 13-18, 1987. Topics of discussion include: “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan making his return to the WWF after his firing for the New Jersey Turnpike arrest and how he was presented. “Million Dollar Man” Ted DiBiase's hatred of children. Randy Savage being upset at The Honky Tonk Man as his babyface turn is kicking into gear. Richard Belzer officially filing his famous personal injury lawsuit against Hulk Hogan and the WWF. NEW Leader...

Sep 18, 20234 hr 21 min

Ep. #422: September 6-12, 1992

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the week that was September 6-12, 1992. Topics of discussion include: Major drama behind the scenes at World Championship Wrestling involving Bill Watts and his "budget cuts,” specifically involving his attempts to renegotiate the contracts of Brian Pillman, Rick Rude, and Sting. We have stories from all sides of the situation, including an explosive Torch Talk that Watts did with Wade Keller about the contract talks. WCW rescinding the top rope rule or...

Sep 11, 20235 hr 25 min

Ep. #421: August 30-September 5, 2002 with Esteban el Boricua

Kris and David are joined by Esteban el Boricua ( @ElBoricuaPWO ) to discuss the week that was August 30th-September 5th, 2002. Topics of discussion include: TNA going through a "soft reboot" as the Jarretts begin talks with the Carter family and Panda Energy which would lead to a sale of the promotion. Bill Goldberg making his All Japan debut on a Budokan Hall back-to-back doubleheader, which was memorable for many reasons, especially when the Toryumon guys worked the second night. One of the g...

Sep 04, 20236 hr 50 min

Ep. #420: August 23-30, 1988 with Scott Passner

Kris and David are joined by Scott Passner to discuss the week that was August 23-30, 1988, which was a show that Scott picked after putting down a $50 pledge on our Patreon, allowing him to pick both the week and a segment to sit in on as guest. Topics of discussion include: Ron Garvin leaving the NWA and the way that was handled on TV with Dusty Rhodes allegedly maiming him in a parking lot. News on the sale negotiations between TBS and Jim Crockett Promotions, which are on shaky ground during...

Aug 28, 20236 hr 4 min

Ep. #419: August 12-20, 1990 with Beau James

Kris and David are joined by Beau James ( @kingofkingsport ) to discuss the week-plus that was August 12-20, 1990. Topics of discussion include: The WWF's build for SummerSlam’ 90, including the big Tugboat injury angle, where we try to figure out why it happened. “Tag Team,” Jesse Ventura and Roddy Piper's TV series, gets cancelled by ABC before it makes air. A big night of wrestling in Japan featuring Jumbo Tsuruta "injuring" Mitsuharu Misawa, major title changes in New Japan, and a major AJW ...

Aug 21, 20236 hr 6 min

Ep. #418: August 9-16, 1993

Kris and David are joined by Chad Campbell ( @bigboysplaywcw ) to discuss the week-plus that was August 9-16, 1993. Topics of discussion include: The WWF's burgeoning relationships with SMW and the USWA, the Torch surveyed fans and people in the business for their opinion of how this arrangement will turn out. Two episodes of Monday Night Raw, which are highlighted by the “Who is Lex Luger?” sit-down interview segments, which are extremely interesting to listen to 30 years later. The skepticism ...

Aug 14, 20236 hr 48 min

Ep. #417: August 2-7, 1996

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the (almost-)week that was August 2-7, 1996. Topics of discussion include: Dave Meltzer's tour of Japan that week for the sixth-annual NJPW G1 Climax tournament, which also featured that the J*Crown tournament to crown the ultimate junior heavyweight champion. Riki Choshu's impending retirement and how winning the G1 played into those plans. Jushin Thunder Liger's brain tumor and how he worked through it until right before his surgery, making sure to pu...

Aug 07, 20235 hr 43 min

Ep. #416: July 26-August 1, 2004

Kris and David are guestless as we begin our 9th year of doing Between the Sheets by discussing the week that was July 26-August 1, 2004. Topics of discussion include: Ric Flair going out on his book tour and WWE pressing him to bash Mick Foley and Bret Hart on to sell more books. Bruno Sammartino agreeing to visit backstage at Raw in Pittsburgh…but leaving before the show. Chris Benoit and Triple H going 60 minutes in an Iron Man Match on Raw that was memorable for reasons other than the partic...

Jul 31, 20234 hr 40 min

Ep. #415: July 19-25, 2000 with Mark Coale

Kris & David are joined by Mark Coale ( @black_bile ) to discuss the week that was July 19-25, 2000, a week that he requested by dropping a $100 on our Patreon so he could sit in for the whole show. Topics of discussion include: Dave Meltzer talking about how he plans to alter the way he does the Observer because of the changing wrestling industry. WWF Fully Loaded featuring some really solid wrestling on top after some shakiness on the undercard. The morale among The Radicalz after being in...

Jul 24, 20235 hr 50 min

Ep. #414: July 12-18, 1994

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the week that was July 12-18, 1994…minus the steroid trial coverage. Topics of discussion include: Hulk Hogan winning the WCW World Heavyweight Title from Ric Flair at the Bash at the Beach PPV in Orlando. We talk about all the media Hogan did before the show, how Hogan being champion would impact the company, and how WCW really felt like they were suddenly the #1 promotion in wrestling. We also go over the rest of the PPV featuring Antonio Inoki showin...

Jul 17, 20234 hr 53 min

Ep. #413: July 5-11, 1988 with Al Getz

Kris and David are joined by Al Getz ( @AlGetzWrestling ) to discuss the week that was July 5-11, 1988. Topics of discussion include: The Great American Bash PPV from Baltimore featuring one of the all-time most controversial finishes to an NWA World Heavyweight Title match. Ronnie Garvin turning on Dusty Rhodes the teases leading into it, as well as why it happened. THE TOWER OF DOOM!!!! triple-decker cage match as well as Precious being tired of Jimmy Garvin & Kevin Sullivan's shit the nig...

Jul 10, 20236 hr 47 min

Ep. #412: June 28-July 4, 2005 with Kaia McKenna

Kris & David are joined by Kaia McKenna ( @KaiaMcK ) to discuss the week that was June 28-July 4, 2005, with Kaia joining us for the non-WWE portion of the show. Topics of discussion include: A thorough look at the WWE's financial report for the fiscal year covering 2004-2005, including a very contentious investors’ call with Linda McMahon taking some pointed questions from stockholders. The WWE debuts of Juventud Guerrera, Psicosis, and Super Crazy asTHE MEXICOOLS, complete with a promo ver...

Jul 03, 20236 hr 55 min

Ep. #411: June 21-27, 2012 with Colby Corino

Kris and David are joined by Colby Corino ( @ColbyCorino ) for the first segment of the show as we discuss the week that was June 21-27, 2012. Topics of discussion include: A full rundown Ring of Honor's "Best in the World" iPPV from the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City, featuring thoughts on the iPPV model itself at that time, the structure of ROH as a promotion, Colby being a teenager who was going to shows like this one with his dad, and of course the show itself with analysis of all the...

Jun 26, 20236 hr 36 min

Ep. #410: June 14-20, 1997

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the week that was June 14-20, 1997. Topics of discussion include: Did Ric Flair really sign a new contract with WCW in 1997? (No.) The Great American Bash PPV in Moline featuring Kevin Greene vs. Mongo McMichael, The Outsiders vs. Ric Flair & Roddy Piper, DDP vs. Randy Savage, Madusa’s “retirement” match vs. Akira Hokuto, and so much more. Nitro at the United Center in Chicago featuring Dennis Rodman just 4 days after the Chicago Bulls won the NBA C...

Jun 19, 20235 hr 39 min

Ep. #409: June 7-13, 1995

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the week that was June 7-13, 1995. Topics of discussion on this week's show include: Davey Boy Smith's assault trial getting rescheduled for January 1996. Chris Benoit wrestling Owen Hart at the WWF Wrestling Challege/Action Zone taping as well as an update on his status in ECW. Mr. Bob Backlund "breaks" Man Mountain Rock's “prized guitar.” The 28th anniversary of “6/9/95,” Toshiaki Kawada and Akira Taue’s legendary tag title win over Mitsuharu Misawa a...

Jun 12, 20234 hr 25 min

Ep. #408: May 31-June 6, 2013 with Joe Sposto

Kris and David are joined by Joe Sposto ( @JoeSposto ) as we discuss the week that was May 31-June 6, 2013, which is a Patreon pick submitted by Alan Paisner who pledged $25 to pick the week. Sposto only joins us for the first section of the show, but what a section it is. Topics of discussion include The major CHIKARA Pro shutdown angle, where we go highly in depth on why this happened (including attempts to kill some of the more unsavory rumors), with lots of context about what happened after ...

Jun 05, 20236 hr 37 min
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